Conference 7.286::digital

    
    
    
    	Didn't see Burlington, Vermont on your list....I think that one is
    closed..???  I learned a couple a couple of things (9000 class) in that
    "college town."     Had fun there too...8*)
    
    							rob tapp
    
    

 Westfield, Springfield plants closed/sold(?)

    
    If I recall correctly, at least Northoboro and Bedford were
    leased.

VBO ETC - sold to Anderson Consulting
VBO Algorithmes - vacated
VBO Les Templiers - half vacated in hopes of a tenant (while the rest of us
	overcrowd)

___Pete

    I worked up in Augusta (ASO) when it got sold. This was mentioned in
    the base note. While up there, we recieved worked from the Chihuahua,
    Mexico (MEX) plant when that closed.
    
    George
    

It was MKO02 that was sold to Fidelity.  MKO01 is still here.  Not for
long,  however.  This time next year MKO01 is supposed to be empty.


Phil

    RE: .1
    
    BTO (Burlington, VT) was closed in June 1993.  The VIS business, along
    with a fair number of folks, moved to NIO in Salem, NH.  The rest of
    the us either found other jobs or were TFSO'd.
    
    The last I knew the building was still on the market.
    
    Larry
    

As of a month ago, ACI (Digital's Mid-Western Region headquarters in
Elk Grove Village, IL) was sold to ADP to house their Chicago area
water-cooled dinosaurs.

        WJO - Westford
        ACO - Acton Piper road
        BYO 1&2 - Boylston
        BUO - Bedford MA
    
        were closed, although I think they where leased rather than owned
        by Digital
    
    

    I worked in the Enfield, Conn. facility from 1983 to 1990.  It closed
    in 1991, and was eventually sold to Dairy Mart.  They use it as their
    corporate headquarters.
    
    It was a small (75,000 sq.ft.) start-up manufacturing plant, supporting
    the storage-controller business.  Remember the KDA50 and HSC50/70/90?
    We built the modules, & then shipped them to CXO.

    
    	LMO4 was also closed.
    

    Gee, the weay we are going, we can save some ink by going back
    to two letter site codes.
    
    Bill Parke (in ZK3)
    

    Digital still owns CXO (Rockrimmon) building, although they have sold/
    exited Forge Road, and the two up near Glen Ellen.
    
    StorageWorks are still being produced at Rockrimmon.  Quantum bought
    the disk and tape businesses which were a part of CXO Digital Mfg.,
    but did not buy any of the plant, only leased it.
    
    When Quantum shut down their Disk Mfg in CXO, the tapes segment moved
    to another building.
    
    Digital is still very much in CXO, with lots of empty space I'm told,
    but the StorageWorks and SBB businesses are still going strong.

    WAO - Waltham Closed, and folks moved to OFO (Burlington, MA). This was
          right after the place was totally remodeled, and for the first
          ever didn't look like a dump. (I still have my "I survived 235 mug"). 
    
    OFO - Burlington, MA closed, and the folks not home alone moved into LEX
          (Lexington,MA).
    
    Both OFO and WAO were leased buildings, and our signs were visible from
    128. I don't think that we have any sign exposure on 128 now.
    
    Deb
    
    

Digital's INI1 facility near Keystone-at-the-Crossing in Indianapolis
closed in Aug 95.

Ram

    Galway mfg plant.
    Kauf mfg plant
    Clonmel mfg plant
    

    don't forget BXC (now 3Com), BXB1, & BXB2 (all Boxborough, MA).  i live
    in Boxborough and this had a real effect on our taxes ;^(>
    
    /jeff

    
    	And BPO1 & 2, or whatever their numbers were.
    

    Ten Tara Blvd., Nashua (TTB)

    APO - Andover, MA

    LTN1, LTN2, and LJO(2?) in Littleton, FXO (?) and Williams Rd. in
    Marlboro.  Puerto Rico had two plants (AGO and SGO).  Digital occupied
    the original Data Terminal Systems building in Maynard (the PKO3
    lookalike) for a while, then abandoned it.  HUO in Hudson, MA.  HDO1 &
    2 in Hudson, NH.  DLB1 through 5 in Marlboro.  BGO (upper floors of St.
    Bridget's school) in Maynard.  Lancaster Conference Center.  At least
    two buildings in Nashua vacated.

  VWO in South Lawrence

  Nxx -- Whatever the old CSS/Rdb building (on Northeastern
         Blvd in Nashua) was

  Nxx -- Whatever the old TPL building (on Amherst Street
         in Nashua) was

  Did we mention the Mill???

                                   Atlant

    ABO (Albuquerque, NM) is still standing silent with a FOR-SALE sign
    posted on it.

	Our former semiconductor plant in Scotland.

    BTH (Behind The Hilton) in Merrimack, NH, which was leased.
    

    re: .21
    
    LJO1 is/will soon be closed.  LJO2 is still open for business (today).
    
    George

    Also -
    HDO, HZO, MHO, NMO, NNO, NPO, NQO, NXO, OWO, QLO, RQO leased sites
    in NH; and FHO (Friary site in Hudson, NH).

    IMM SALEM NH = Is now Lechmere Sales
    
    Salem Coats Building - Across from NE Tractor Trailer School
    
    ATT - River Road N. Andover MA, Leased
    
    Memories (not RAM)
    
    Lee

    The DCO building in Landover, MD is just about empty and will be
    closed.  The building is owned by Digital and will probably be sold.

NQO (off Amherst St, Nashua) is not closed.  If it is, I'm sitting in the 
middle of another company... :-)

-Roland

    re .31 He's right, NQO is not closed. Just converted from almost total
    warehouse to almost total office space. We (s/r 010/128/124) moved to
    WMO and then to DAS where we are now.
    
    The Friary in Hudson NH not only closed, but was destroyed. The town is
    looking into buying the land or some piece of it. At least we voted to
    in the last elections (March). Actually destroyed is a little strong
    the building was demolished for safety purposes I believe. Shame too. I
    remember hanging around there as a kid and visiting with the Monks. It
    was a neat place with it's own sound/recording studio, leather works
    shop, woodworking and machine shops and lots of other neat stuff. Nice
    pool and basketball courts too. Plus a very beautiful chapel that was
    bigger then my church sanctuary. 
    
    Bright Blessings,
    
    PJ

  But I wasn't referring to NQO! I'm sitting in NQO at this very
  instant! :-)

  I was referring to Digital TPL ("Traditional Product Line",
  meaning "old and refurbished stuff", kinda like me), now a
  "Gold's Gym" as well as an electronics service place and
  several other little shops. It's definitely not Digital
  anymore.
                                   Atlant

    Atlant, on reading your NOTE, I saw that you didn't refer to NQO. THe
    author of .28 includes NQO in the reply. 
    
    Bright Blessings,
    
    PJ

re: .33

>  I was referring to Digital TPL ("Traditional Product Line",
>  meaning "old and refurbished stuff", kinda like me), now a
>  "Gold's Gym" as well as an electronics service place and
>  several other little shops. It's definitely not Digital
>  anymore.

There were two buildings there (across Amherst Street from Charmin's) that 
housed Returns and TPL.  The one with the gym was NMO.  The other one was
NHO, which seems to now be a satellite of some college.

Ray

The INS location at 5758 West 74th Street in Indianapolis closed in August!

    I haven't been following along, but isn't KO's new place a former DEC
    plant on Rt. 2?
    

And there's someone else in VGO, too, where I started.

Pete

>    I haven't been following along, but isn't KO's new place a former DEC
>    plant on Rt. 2?
    
  Yes, that was ACO on Piper Road in Acton. Mentioned ~20 replies ago. Was
owned, not leased.

>  I was referring to Digital TPL ("Traditional Product Line",
>  meaning "old and refurbished stuff", kinda like me), now a

  Since we are getting into trivia, I will mention that TPL also had two
buildings at the north end of Northeastern Blvd. in Nashua. One was NNO and
was the larger of the two; the other was the Stellos building (forgot the code).
  It would be an interesting exercise for the Digital historian (if there is
one) to compile a list of all the sites that Digital has ever occupied since
1980. (I chose that date to make the project a tad more manageable.) I estimate
there would be at least 300 such sites.

    SBO = Saddle Brook, NJ sales, service
    NJO = Parsippanny, NJ  "      "  (although the disaster recovery site,
          separate facility on another floor of the same building, may
          still be open?)

NUO and NPO were the leased buildings on Northeastern Blvd that 
housed CSS Manufacturing before moving into the Salem NH NIO 
plant.

The CSS engineering buildings in Hudson NH were HDO, HZO, and 
UHO.

daryll

    
    The BASEstar group used to lease a building in Bloomfield, CT (BMF).
    
    Now only a fond memory.
    
    - Gary

    re .40
    
    I agree ! it will be an intersting exercise for the digital historian
    to compile a list of all sites etc. Well ! My thoughts on this matter
    is entirely different. Let us assume we have shown a profit of say 
    $300 million in past few quarters. We have sold all these buildings,
    properties, Land, products, we have borrowed about $1 billion in the
    bond market and also raised $1 Billion in the preferred stock.
    Sometimes it makes me wonder as to how our balance sheet will look 
    if we had not raised $2 billion in cash through Bonds and preferred 
    stocks, if we had not sold all those properties ! Scary isn't it ?
    
                                                                
    

    Reference .28.  Sorry.  Didn't have my mind fully engaged.  I meant
    NUO not NQO.  As other writers have noted, NQO is still alive and well.
    

I don't think I have seen MRO2 mentioned. Talk is
Fidelity has exercised their option for this 
building also - they've been a good real estate 
customer.

There was also some huge number of acres of land
we sold in Plymouth, MA I think.  At the time, three?
years ago, it was the largest plot of land changing 
hands in MA.

    In the UK.
    
    EOO - Newmarket - vacated (we leased it)
    WLO - Welwyn    - closed (still empty, we own it)
    Birmingham, closed
    Manchester, some Reading, Basingstoke, Newcastle, Scotland and Ireland.
    
    Other as well, I guess
    
    Alan

    NRO1-A  tiny house in Berlin Ma that is now daycare and a miniture
    golf couorse.

    
    	MRO2 was mentioned as "almost closed" in the base note.
    

  Well, I don't know if "relocated to bigger quarters" counts as
  closed, but:

    o Metuchen, NJ (where I hired on) closed when we moved
      the central-Jersey office to, umm, err, not Bound Brook
      but across the river from it in P..., err, P..., err I
      forget. We shared that office with an ATT (NJB?) field
      operation.

    o That office then closed when the gang moved to Piscataway (KYO).

                                   Atlant

    Atlant - that was Somerset!
    
    Dave E.

> Atlant - that was Somerset!
    
  Why, yes it was! Thanks, Dave! SJO, right?

                                   Atlant

    
    
    	Wasn't there a DDD next to Smiley's Accura in Nashua? Not any
    	more...

RE: .53

Yup, next to Sunnyside Acura.  Now owned by Oxford Health Plans.

    DDD was in back of the apartments near the Citgo Quik mart. I can't
    even remember the name of the apartments and I used to live there. I'm
    getting old now. :-) DDD was spun off from NQO and contained a customer
    help line, the materials and purchasing groups of the old DECDirect
    group and i don't know what else. Not sure if it's closed completely
    and sold or just empty.
    
    Bright Blessings,
    
    PJ

    DDD (AKA DECDirect) Was a leased facility that was vacated a couple of
    years ago.  DECdirect moved to MKO1 as did most of the other groups and
    now they will be moving to Littleton Mass (TAY).  They were the order
    entry folks for options (remember A&SG?) and also entered the first MV2
    systems as well as EPP.  Ahhh, memory lane.
    
    jc
    

> DDD (AKA DECDirect) Was a leased facility that was vacated a couple of

  Aka DecDirectDistribution, if you'll forgive my C-style.

                                   Atlant

    
    You can create a list automatically from the Digtal Telephone Network
    list of sites vs. DTN....   I think they keep them by date..
    
    Jon
    

We've consolidated the remaining people in ALF1 and ALF2 (which are attached) 
into ALF1.  ALF2 is now being leased by Nortel.

Dave

    UCS (Mountain View, CA, corner of Castro and El Camino) was leased for
    five years, we moved out three years ago.  Lotus moved ccMail in.  Now
    that IBM owns Lotus, its an IBM facility.
    
    DougO

 There also used to be a Digital facility (small one) on Middlefield Road
 in Mt. View...can't recall the code for it, though.



 Jim

    Some more OLD Marlboro Mass building that have been closed or
    vacated...

    MOO1 & MOO2 down the road from the MRO plants past the gas company. 

    MET1 - MET? One or more buildings leased from Metropolitan on the road
    up to the MRO plants.

    NIK1 and maybe NIK2 - Nickerson road on the other side of 495
    from the MRO plants? Or were these over by the MET buildings? 

    Charly

    
    	I believe the Nickerson Road facilities were NKS.
    
    	Unless I'm making that up and the Nickerson Road facilities
    	were all named METn.
    

>     	I believe the Nickerson Road facilities were NKS.
    
    Ok, I'll buy that. There were both NKS and MET buildings, but were
    the NKS buildings over in the same office park as the MET
    buildings... and if they were, what were the buildings on the
    other side of 495, opposite MRO callled?

    opposite mro was pdm and ind

    >    buildings... and if they were, what were the buildings on the
    >    other side of 495, opposite MRO callled?
    
    was that Mt Royal? I think the site code was MTO, but I am probably
    wrong.
    
    Deb

    The building on the opposite side of 495 mear the MR0 sites
    was IND (in-dec Field Service)
    
    Louie

    
    	Mount Royal was UPO1/2, right at 20/495.
    

    No, IND was at the corner of 495 and Forest street, diagonally
    across from MRO. 

    PDM was what I was looking for! If you drove east on Forest St,
    from the MRO buildings across 495, past the IND building on your
    left and then took the next right, you'd be heading south along
    the east side of 495. A mile or 2 down that road were a couple of
    office buildings.

    RE: .71
    
    Well, somehow this list didn't catch everything.  The site I started
    at, KSO, in Colorado Springs wasn't there.

    
    	ABO Albuquerque isn't listed.
    

    I am not quite sure about the listing. 
    
    AQO is listed but not really closed. They just added "02" to the site
    code. 
    
    

    Sime of the sites mentioned have been closed for so long they did not
    have 3 character site codes.  Didn't Somerset close when the opened KYO
    for example.
    
    David

> Didn't Somerset close when the opened KYO for example.

  I think so, but I was gone to TWO by then. I thought three-letter
  codes had arrived by then, but I certainly don't remember for sure.

                                   Atlant

    .73
    
    Wow ! this is a complete list ( Almost ) I could not believe we closed
    nearly 800 buildings ! For the sake of argument let us assume that
    atleast 400 of these buildings/plants were owned by Digital. I wonder
    how the revenue from the sale is reported. Suppose building X had a
    book value of $100000 and was sold for $900000, how will be books look
    like. Asset column will go down in value by $100K and revenue column will
    go up by $900K thus showing a profit of $800K. If the building is owned
    by XBU, will it reflect in the revenue for XBU etc etc.
     
    What a wonderful world of accounting !
    
    

Digital has operated at various times in five different sites within the
Sophia Antipolis technopark which most outsiders call "Valbonne":

	Building	Use			Status

	?		Terminals group		Vacated
	?		Local sales office	Offices relocated to VBE
	Algorithmes	Software development	Vacated
	ETC		Marketing, support	Vacated (sold or leased out)
	VBE (VBO)	Current			Partly occupied

The last of those is the only place Digital still occupies in Sophia
Antipolis, the "Les Templiers" building, and the local sales office is
within the building.  Much of the building has been forcibly vacated (by
increasing the population density of the remainder) to try to rent out the
space, but so far no one has rented it, so it simply sits vacant.  At least
one internal group wants to use the space, and has cash to pay for it, but
they aren't being permitted to do that.  They may rent space elsewhere in
the park if they can't get more in this building.  Or so they say.

___Pete

    ...and there was the building opposite to Mykonos before the ETC
    building was built.
    

>                    <<< Note 4559.80 by MROA::SRINIVASAN >>>
>
>    how the revenue from the sale is reported. Suppose building X had a
>    book value of $100000 and was sold for $900000, how will be books look
>    like. Asset column will go down in value by $100K and revenue column will
>    go up by $900K thus showing a profit of $800K. If the building is owned
>    by XBU, will it reflect in the revenue for XBU etc etc.

No, the "wonderful world of accounting" won't let a business report
things that way.  The money derived (or loss incurred) from things
not directly involved with one's mainstream business don't
count in the "revenue" statement, but do show up on the balance sheet.
(And I'll head off the wisecrack that divesting 800 sites would make it
our mainstream business by mentioning it here.)
It's just like the divesting of businesses (disks, training, service)
as has been mentioned elsewhere.  Frequency aside, these are all
"extraordinary" transactions, and aren't considered "revenue" or "profit."

- tom]

    
    On the balance sheet, I think that you end up subtracting the carried
    value of the building from "Property, plant and equipment" and add the
    money recieved to "Cash and cash equivalents".  
    
    So if we value a building at $1M and sell it for $.5M our total assets
    would be reduced by $.5M it would have nothing to do with profits or
    losses.  
    
    Our current Cash and Cash equivalents ois $1.7B. I imagine a lot of
    this came from selling assets such as buildings.
    
    
    -Bruce

Re.
                    <<< Note 4559.80 by MROA::SRINIVASAN >>>
    
>    Wow ! this is a complete list ( Almost ) I could not believe we closed
>    nearly 800 buildings ! For the sake of argument let us assume that

We did not necessarily closed 800 "buildings". We closed 800 sites. A site
could be anything such as a floor in a building or may be just 1 room in an
office park etc. It also includes warehouses, storage facilities etc.

Avinash

    
      Not every location is in the database, only after "x" date when
    they started it.
    
      Examples include:  LKO - Littleton,MA (now the Aubuchon bldg. on 2A)
                         WVO - Westford, MA (above Mike's Place on Rt.110)
                         The old Nashoba Drive-In FCC test site, which
                         then became BXC.
                         DSS - above the Doughnut Shop in Stow on Rt. 117.
    
       Probably many others, remember PMR (Powdermill Road), now its MSO1.
    
          Mark
    

    
    	.86 reminded me of DSG1/2 in Westford.
    

    re .85 
    
    Avinash,
    
    Most of the buildings had one site code ! I was not aware of any
    buidling with differnet site code for each floor !. I agree some 
    buildings may be a one room office ( I doubt that ! ). The smallest I
    have seen is a 3 room office in Ann Arbor MI, Which was a service
    facility.
    
    Jay
    

    Re .86
    
    PMR was an unofficial designation but never an official location code
    for MSO1, which was formerly known (before MSO2) as MSO and previously
    as MS (which "stood" for Maynard-Scott, as it was the original 
    headquarters of the H.H. Scott electronics company of yore).

                            
>
>    how the revenue from the sale is reported. Suppose building X had a
>    book value of $100000 and was sold for $900000, how will be books look
>    like. Asset column will go down in value by $100K and revenue column will
>    go up by $900K thus showing a profit of $800K. If the building is owned
>    by XBU, will it reflect in the revenue for XBU etc etc.

>No, the "wonderful world of accounting" won't let a business report
>things that way.  The money derived (or loss incurred) from things
>not directly involved with one's mainstream business don't
>count in the "revenue" statement, but do show up on the balance sheet.
>(And I'll head off the wisecrack that divesting 800 sites would make it
>our mainstream business by mentioning it here.)
>It's just like the divesting of businesses (disks, training, service)
>as has been mentioned elsewhere.  Frequency aside, these are all
>"extraordinary" transactions, and aren't considered "revenue" or "profit."

    Thanks for the clarification.  
    Yes! I have seen some note about the extraordinary transaction if the value
    is very high. Now if it is separate line item in the balance sheet, it
    will be nice to know much we have made (sold- revenue generated) through 
    these extraordinary transactions in the past few years. Just a thought !
    
    Jay
    

WLO (Welwyn) is missing from ths list... it's been closed for about 18 months 
now (okay, so in the first 6 months, an All-In-1 cluster lived in there, and a 
security guard turned up once in a while)  I don't think it's been sold yet, 
though.

Chris.

re: .74

I also started in KSO (Colorado Springs)...but they built CXO3 specifically
to house the KSO operation.  So, when CXO3 was finished, they moved everyone
from KSO and they stopped leasing it.  Colorado Technical University is
there now.

- Bryan

    
    The MOO site in Marlboro (Cedar Hill St. - old GIA headquarters) is not
    on the list, although I think it was mentioned in an earlier reply. 
    It's still on the market, if you are interested.  There's a sign on the
    road that says something like 46,000 sq. ft.  I ran into a commercial
    real estate agent who said that site was hard to sell since there is no
    room for expansion.
    
    My group just moved out of MRO2 to MRO1 since Fidelity was reportedly
    exercising an option on floors 3 and 4.  Rumors are that Digital will 
    vacate floors 1 and 2 as well to save the expense.
    

    
    	Hmmm, I wonder if they'd take $2/sq foot for MOO.
    
    	I'd go for that.  PLENTY of room for a pool table in that house.
    

    G'day,
     Oh golly gosh... no Welwyn???
    
    Who is operating the light sensor in the area now?
    
    
    Sad to see so much go....
    
    but as a recent Australian record says...
    Perhaps the best is yet to come!
    
    
    derek