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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

3828.0. "OS/2 On Digital Alpha?" by MIMS::SANDERS_J () Wed Apr 26 1995 17:26

    INFORMATIONWEEK, 5-1-95, P. 100
    
    OS/2 On Digital Alpha?
    
    IBM is evaluating the viability of offering its OS/2 Warp operating
    system on Digital Equipment's powerful 64-bit Alpha microprocessor,
    according to a Big Blue executive who requested anonymity.  IBM and
    Digital are already partnering on microkernal software that will improve
    Warp's stability, and portability.  Meanwhile, IBM expects to
    distribute a second test release of OS/2 Warp for the PowerPC in the
    next several weeks.  The company hasn't ruled out a third test release,
    but says it expects to release the operating system for PowerPC systems
    before year's end.
    
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    Is IBM thinking about this because W/NT on Alpha will kick OS/2 on
    PowerPC's butt?  Comments.
    
    
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3828.1GREATICS::BEANAttila the Hun was a LIBERAL!Wed Apr 26 1995 19:3410
    my (nsh) opinion is GREAT!!!
    
    The more systems that are ported to Alpha the better!  There are MANY
    more OS/2 systems (installed base) than NT... and it requires much less
    physical resources... it'd be another way to get the Alpha into homes
    and small businesses.
    
    Go for it!
    
    
3828.2DIODE::CROWELLJon CrowellWed Apr 26 1995 20:095
    
    This should make Bill Gates more interested in helping us have full
    access to WNT..
    
    
3828.3I can see clearly now...GLDOA::WERNERWed Apr 26 1995 20:269
    Let's see now. Should we get in bed with Gates and Gertsner, too? And
    if we get in bed with everybody, what will people think? And if we get
    to the point where we don't care what people think, what will we have
    become? Oh! I remember now! A commodity hardware vendor. And if we're
    successful at this game, who'll need the baggage of draggin' along our
    on OSes? It's all so very clear now! I'll bet Intel is quakin' already.
    What a strategy. What vision! What foresight! What?
    
    -OFWAMI-  
3828.4Pure OS/2 propaganda!OSL09::OLAVDo it in parallel!Wed Apr 26 1995 21:1215
    > according to a Big Blue executive who requested anonymity.
    
    I think this falls in the same category of statements from Sun stating
    that Solaris will be available on Alpha. A statement to convince todays
    customers that the OS will be everywhere and is a safe buy. Why do you
    think the IBM spokesman requested anonymity? Try to get a written
    commitment!
    
    > Is IBM thinking about this because W/NT on Alpha will kick OS/2 on
    > PowerPC's butt?  Comments.
    
    Windows NT 3.51 will ship on PowerPC *before* OS/2. Must be embarrasing
    for IBM!
    
    Olav
3828.5showing my naivete!SWAM2::GOLDMAN_MAWalking Incubator, Use CautionWed Apr 26 1995 21:3811
    re: .3  --
    
    Regardless of my personal opinion as to the truth ingrained in the
    subject rumor...
    
    >>...what will we have become?...
    
    I suppose that we will have become the open systems vendor we have 
    already claim to be.
    
    M.
3828.6This Has Come Up BeforeMR2SRV::16.34.240.2::wwillisWayne A. Willis, CNSThu Apr 27 1995 10:1015
I also heard this rumor when I was at IBM 3 years ago. And, as rumors 
usually go, someone told me that someone told them that someone actually 
saw it demoed in someplace.

RE: .3

If this rumor does become a reality someday, it would show that we have a 
damn good systems platform. I really hope this rumor becomes a reality. 
IMHO, our positioning would not be much different than Microsoft's 
positioning of Windows NT: open, vendor neutral, solid platform. What's 
good for the goose is good for the gander! Also, like .5 says, this is 
what we are preaching anyway.

	C'Ya,
	Wayne
3828.7WRKSYS::GENOVAThu Apr 27 1995 15:268
    
    rep .4
    
    
    With a 1.3 Billion dollar profit for the quarter, are they embarrassed,
    I wouldn't think so!
    
    /art
3828.8I hope this is true.WRKSYS::HOBSONFri Apr 28 1995 11:5220
    There is absolute adavantage for both IBM and Digital. IBM must show
    Warp as being as "open" as NT for it to be credible. This is not the
    first time this has surfaced in the press. It has been publicly stated
    by I'm very sure Gerstner, that OS/2 for Poewer PC would be available
    on MIPs as their next priority. We would be very stupid not to work on
    making this happen if they are willing to dedicate any resources to
    it. Lets face it without this Big Bill has zero incentive to cater
    to Digital since he has no competition here today for the future
    traditional PC centric desktop/small server market segment.
    
    I have never bought any of that fertilizer about not being credible if
    we have a large number of OS's that run on hardware. Gee this is
    an IQ test, why is Intel the safest hardware to buy? Why is PowerPC
    perceived widely as the next safest, despite its flip/flops and delays?
    
    I hope this runour is true.
    
    Dave
    
    
3828.9Open O/SWHOS01::BOWERSDave Bowers @WHOFri Apr 28 1995 13:128
    >>    I have never bought any of that fertilizer about not being credible if
    we have a large number of OS's that run on hardware. 
    
    I think that argument became fertilzer when we made the transition from
    proprietary O/Ss to open ones.  Running ALL the open O/Ss out there
    clearly is a virtue.
    
    \dave