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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

3863.0. "Playing musical offices" by QUARK::MODERATOR () Tue May 09 1995 12:57

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    	I don't know if the same is happening in other places of the
    Company, but this is something I really don't understand and I use this
    place only to express my frustration.

    	This Company has (had, hopefully) a lot of problems. But it seems
    that the main issue worrying my managers is the places where we are
    sitting. Every 4-6 months I see people changing desks without
    particular needs.

    	Today I've been told I have to change my desk to sit where I was
    sitting ~ one year ago, when I was forced to move in my actual place.
    The motivation for this? None, because the one it was given to me
    revealed to be non-existent.

    	We are a networked Company, a worldwide organization. I'm supposed
    to work (when needed) with every person working for this Company: we
    have e-mail, Internet, Easynet, etc.

    	I have a lot of stuff to move (hardware, books, manuals, etc.).
    I'll spend the whole day moving my stuff instead of working on what will
    let Digital earn money.

    	How many of us are wasting their time in this way?

    	Many thanks for your time to read this.

    	P.S.: this message was written during lunch time.
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3863.1AXEL::FOLEYRebel without a ClueTue May 09 1995 13:2411

	I like to call Musical Offices "defragging the building". After
	a while, people in groups are spread out all over the place,
	like a file on a disk. Then some grand defragging manager comes
	along and moved everyone so they all have contiguous offices.
	ie: Just like a defragger on a disk.

	There's a Dilbert cartoon in here someplace..

							mike
3863.2organization vs. disorganizationNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksTue May 09 1995 14:1927
Did you ever have to rearrange your Rolodex when staff changes made it 
frustrating to use?

Have you ever had to update your pocket address book because you ran out of 
space in the front few pages and "Brown" had to be written after "Zybinski"?

Musical offices is simply a means of keeping work groups intact when 
building leases run out and more folks have to be squeezed into existing 
spaces or when new groups expand to handle work loads.

If your group currently sits at 25 people but you have vacant offices in 
your 33 cube "space", you get moved to a 25 cube space so that a group 
with a population closer to the available space can take over your space.

In 22 years I've been part of a few of these "consolidations" and it's a lot 
better having all of us in the same area instead of in two or three buildings.
I've also been subjected to relocations so that other groups could be 
consolidated but a little investigation (look at who is in your area now) 
has justified the inconvenience.

..........and I have more "manuals" than most BTW.   ....and I usually 
move them myself because it takes less time.

Of course, you can pack up everything and wait for the movers to move it for 
you and be inconvenienced.  That's your call.


3863.3BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Tue May 09 1995 17:086
    
    	Management likes to use every square foot of space assigned to
    	them, since occupancy rates are calculated that way.  The more
    	square footage taken up by a group, the more the "rent" they'll
    	have to budget.
    
3863.4Good oneBSS::R_LOGANTue May 09 1995 22:516
    RE .1
    
    Defragging manager.......I'm already looking in VTX JOBS_US for
    postings.  There has got to be one working at CXO3.  
    
    GREAT stuff.  Thanks for the laugh :-)
3863.5SNOFS1::POOLEOver the RainbowWed May 10 1995 01:145
    Could it be?  VP, Defrag?
    
    Couldn't resist.
    
    Bill
3863.6Heading for veal cubes...WAYLAY::GORDONdashboard potatoThu May 11 1995 13:318
    	It could be worse - we're moving from 24 cubes (plus a couple of
    appropriated empties for "near-line" equipment) in MKO2 to 22 *significantly
    smaller* cubes in MK01.  When we outlined our power requirements for
    the cubes, facilities tried to tell us "you don't need all that
    equipment in your cubes."  I wonder who made them such experts in
    determining what equipment I need to get my work done.
    
    					--Doug
3863.7It gets worse...DEMON::JUROWThu May 11 1995 13:4112
    
    Count yourself lucky if you have your own cube.  I share one with
    another person; in this space (which is a smaller-than-average size
    due to the fact that we also share it with the telephone cabinet),
    are two terminals, two PCs, two people and all their gear.  The phones
    are right next to each other so that when my cubie-mate picks up her
    phone she is literally talking in my ear, and vice-versa.  It took 6
    weeks after the move to get the phonemail working, and my cubie-mate's
    phone didn't work at all for two weeks.
    
    Needless to say, I work at home whenever I can.
    
3863.8No free blocksBBRDGE::LOVELLThu May 11 1995 16:2713
    Just take Mike's analogy one-step further...
    
    First we try de-fragging, then when things are neat and they still
    don't fit, we go to compression.  Be interesting to see if the
    cubicle-compressors can exceed the compression ratio of the disk-file 
    compressors.....
    
    /Chris.
    
    P.S.	No kidding, shortly before I left DECpark Reading, I saw
    		the cube-compressors in action, actually *SAWING OFF* the
    		ends of some of the existing desks so that more of them
    		would fit in a fixed area.
3863.9s q u e e z eDEMON::JUROWThu May 11 1995 17:246
    
    RE -.1
    
    C-c works real well.  I'm 6 inches shorter since I started sharing, and
    my furniture is smaller, too....
    
3863.10TINCUP::KOLBEWicked Wench of the WebThu May 11 1995 18:274
I'd always thought they moved us every year to clear
up the fire hazzards in our cubes. Plus now I don't
need to use carbon dating on the bottom documents in
the piles on my desk. :*) liesl
3863.11PHDVAX::LUSKRon Lusk--[org-name of the week here]Thu May 11 1995 18:566
    You'll learn about compression when you share a mouse-pad with your
    cube-mate. My client and I have one mouse-pad between us (figuratively
    *and* literally); he works right-handed, I left-handed (my keyboard
    extends over the right end of our work table).
    
    ;^)
3863.12A reply from the CreatorAXEL::FOLEYRebel without a ClueThu May 11 1995 19:4839

	To those of you that sent me mail and told me to send mail to
	Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert, well, now you can bow
	down at my feet. I have scrambled up the rungs of Dogberts
	Ruling Class another few notches..

	Read'm and weep kids...

From:	US2RMC::"ScottAdams@aol.com" 11-MAY-1995 03:01:17.10
To:	axel::foley
CC:	
Subj:	Re: Another Dilbert cartoon in the making??

Thanks for the fodder.  I appreciate it!  


Scott Adams

http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert

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	Yea, so what if it's probably a form letter. I still got the
	reply. :)

						mike
				basking in that SVGA glow right now..
3863.13"DRINK ME"WHOS01::ELKINDSteve Elkind, Digital Consulting @WHOThu May 11 1995 19:567
    > C-c works real well.  I'm 6 inches shorter since I started sharing, and
    > my furniture is smaller, too....
    
    I heard Facilities is ordering a stock of elixir that comes in small
    bottles with a label tied round the neck, having the words "DRINK ME".
    Reportedly, it has "a sort of mixed flavour of cherry-tart, custard,
    pine-apple, roast turkey, toffy, and hot buttered toast."
3863.14oooooooooooh!DPDMAI::EYSTERLivin' on refried dreams...Thu May 11 1995 20:117
    3863.12...I stand in awe.  Please let us know what the idea was, so
    that when we read it we can say "Hey!  There's Digital!  And *I* have
    personally noted with the guy that sent Scott the concept!".
    
    We can get free beer that way.
    
    								Tex
3863.15So, (echoing Tex), what was the idea?SPEZKO::FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideThu May 11 1995 20:245
        Nice one,  Mike - I treasure my correspondance with Cecil Adams
        of Straight Dope fame (under Cece's real name, of course!) ;*)
        
        Andy
        
3863.16AXEL::FOLEYRebel without a ClueThu May 11 1995 20:459
RE: .14,.15

	See .1 :) I basically forwarded him the text of .1.

				
			Entering a new level of geekdom,

						mike
					
3863.17Awesome, dude....POBOX::CORSONHigher, and a bit more to the rightThu May 11 1995 20:549
    
    	Totally cool, Mike...
    
    
    	Next up will be a move to supergeekdom when the PC Channel wants
    you on live....
    
    
    		the Greyhawk
3863.18WHOS01::BOWERSDave Bowers @WHOThu May 11 1995 21:564
    I've often thought that, by putting a layer of plywood across the top
    of the cubes, we sould go to double-decker operations;^)
    
    \dave
3863.19What's a Mouse Pad?DEMON::JUROWFri May 12 1995 14:1511
    
    I suggested that, instead of sharing horizontally, they let me go
    vertical.  I would have had to stoop, but at least there would be
    some floor space.  They didn't buy it.  That would have put me so
    close to the light that I would have actually been able to SEE
    something (they way it is now, I read hard-copy by the light of my
    cubie-mate's pc...)
    
    re. a few back...
    Mouse pad?  You have a mouse pad?  I use my forehead...
    
3863.20ATLANT::SCHMIDTE&amp;RT -- Embedded and RealTime EngineeringFri May 12 1995 17:128
> I heard Facilities is ordering a stock of elixir that comes in small
> bottles with a label tied round the neck, having the words "DRINK ME".
> Reportedly, it has "a sort of mixed flavour of cherry-tart, custard,
> pine-apple, roast turkey, toffy, and hot buttered toast."

  The employees' reply to Facilities should be obvious.

                                   Atlant
3863.21who/what are we then?POBOX::SETLOCKFri May 12 1995 22:215
    Re: .18 is this double decker idea kind of like "Stacker" on a PC?  or
    is that more like .8's compression???  And does that make us bytes or
    1's and 0's???
    Suzanne
    
3863.22HERON::KAISERTue May 16 1995 07:1321
For reasons totally beyond my understanding, management didn't take me
seriously a couple of years ago when I proposed charging for parking at the
office (no one *forces* you to drive to work, do they?) and charging
admission to get into the building (your job is a privilege, not a right).

But I see now that the ideas just weren't fully enough developed, so how
about this: don't charge to get into the building, but do auction the
available office space and other logistic resources.  Someone who wants a
spacious corner office with lots of windows, a big desk, lots of shelf
space, lockable cabinets, and two telephones can now have it (and can keep
it unless someone else bids higher some day), and anyone who doesn't need
all that can simply pay less.

I suppose it would be fair to guarantee a certain base level of office
space, say 3 square meters -- 30 square feet -- for a certain low price,
and that would get you a chair, a small desk and a telephone, subject to
being moved elsewhere at any time.

"The Contract for Digital."

___Pete
3863.23HDLITE::SCHAFERMark Schafer, Alpha Developer's supportTue May 16 1995 13:558
    Pete,
    
    I think there's real potential for you as a VP.  How about some other
    "employee services": packing and unpacking, filling out expense
    vouchers, answering your phone in the approved manner.  We could do all
    these for the employee for a modest fee.  :-)
    
    Mark  
3863.24sounds good to meDPDMAI::EYSTERLivin' on refried dreams...Tue May 16 1995 19:3613
    My department has instituted a labrythine method for filing status
    reports.  I've been considering contracting it out to someone else then
    expensing it.  If I had the in-house services you suggested, I'd
    definitely use them.
    
    I'd also use them to fill out the status reports in the first place,
    attend any meeting with one or more management types in it, and answer
    any mail I receive from someone using All-in-1.
    
    Now that the market analysis is done, please let me know when these
    services will be available in my area.
    
    								Tex
3863.25The one minute ICTINCUP::KOLBEWicked Wench of the WebTue May 16 1995 23:159
Tex, where have you been? A status report is easy. First you
must (sigh) create one from srcatch but from there on it's cake.
Each month you copy the file to a new name and send it in.
The truely ambitious may want to change a word or two, most
commonly these will be dates. Most managers just roll them
up into a pile that they then forward to their manager until
at some point the distribution equals the length of the reports.
Then the entire mess is mailed back to your organization with
everybody copied on the distribution. liesl
3863.26DPDMAI::EYSTERLivin' on refried dreams...Wed May 17 1995 15:316
    re 3863.25
    
    I'm a little embarrassed I missed this whole concept. :^[  Thanks for
    the update, I'll be implementing immediately.
    
    							Tex
3863.27There is a permanent solution ...CGOOA::WARDLAWCHARLES WARDLAW @CGOThu May 18 1995 03:2521
    Imagine my suprise to hear that there are still people in this company
    authorized to have their own _________ (fill in with cube, desk, phone,
    or any of the other typical "old work environment" components I have
    not had now for 6+ months). :^)
    
    As a SI person that likes to have room to spread out when working - you
    know / tables, white boards, walls, a door, a speaker phone, space
    for your team members - I find my new work environment (TM) to be 
    really good for dropping by the office once and a while, but not 
    for any of the project work I do when writing client reports, etc.
    
    But at least I do not need to move from cube to cube any longer; I can
    just pull my trolley up to any empty "pod" by the handle.  Of course, I
    still can't figure out what to do with my manuals, client files,
    project documents, and etc. And we just lost two 4-seat pods to another
    office this month ...
    
    CHW
    
    PS: Yes ... the trolley does have a handle, and even a bumper!