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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

2909.0. "I forgot..." by HGOVC::DAVIDCHERSON (the door goes on the right) Tue Feb 22 1994 01:02

    I got this in the mail today.  Just thought it might be more ammunition
    to those of you who "critique" our educational funding process...
    
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	Available Dates:
		PKO	MARCH 10TH - 11TH		(Course no.  RBCME-11)

	To Register:
		Set Host SIMVAX,  Username: COURSES,  Password: TRAINING

	Cost:	$400


MEMORY


Audience	Anyone committed to the importance of remembering information.
                Anyone facing major programs of study or professional change.

Description	This video based program, developed by brain researcher, 
                Tony Buzan explores the infinite capacity of your memory.  
		By using specific techniques to stimulate your memory, it 
		is possible to consolidate, retain and recall information, 
		thus adding to your overall bank of knowledge.

		This session will teach you Buzan's Complete Memory System.
		The many applications for retaining and recalling information
		include: 

		- general applications of memory 
		- memory during and after learning
		- remembering names, faces and facts


Objectives	Participants will:

		- use the ten item mnemonic memory techniques
		- learn the effects of association and aging on memory
		- apply specific techniques to stimulate the brain and memory


Prerequisite    None

Format		video/lecture/discussion/exercises

Length		2 days
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2909.1"like the corners of my mind..."QETOO::FERREIRATue Feb 22 1994 01:244
    re -.1
    
           Vaguely remember having taken this some time ago, but for
    the life of me I can't recall most of the techniques presented.  ;-)
2909.2CSC32::D_RODRIGUEZMidnight Falcon ...Wed Feb 23 1994 00:571
Quick, sign me up.  I left my car running and I need to find my keys...
2909.3I think not!DPDMAI::EYSTERDogbert's Clues for the CluelessWed Feb 23 1994 13:375
    
    Enough, already!  If God had meant for man to remember loads of info,
    he wouldn't have given us Post-It notes, now would he?
    
    					Brent
2909.4as long as we're philosophical ;-)RANGER::BACKSTROMbwk,pjp;SwTools;pg2;lines23-24Wed Feb 23 1994 13:407
>    Enough, already!  If God had meant for man to remember loads of info,
>    he wouldn't have given us Post-It notes, now would he?

    If man was meant to walk, the automobile would not have been invented
    
    ...petri
    
2909.5I would like to remember something...IDEFIX::65296::sirenWed Feb 23 1994 14:214
Could that help me to remember people's names ;-). That would be worth of
$400.

--Ritva
2909.6good courseICS::BEANAttila the Hun was a LIBERAL!Wed Feb 23 1994 18:495
    I attended this course last November. 
    
    I recommend it.
    
    tony
2909.7Alumnus?DPDMAI::EYSTERDogbert's Clues for the CluelessWed Feb 23 1994 19:088
    
>    I attended this course last November. 
>    
>    I recommend it.
>    
>    tony
    
    (You forgot to capitalize your name, Tony)   ;^]  Brent
2909.8no course can fight the aging process in humansSTAR::ABBASIthinking about itWed Feb 23 1994 19:197
    the older people get the more they will forget and no course will
    change that so be carfull if a course claims to improve your memory
    becuase it is a matter of bilogy and nothing you can do about it except
    may be eating more vitamin C and other water soylable vitamins and
    herbs and such.
    
    \nasser
2909.9What??? AMCUCS::YOUNGI'd like to be...under the sea...Wed Feb 23 1994 19:503
re: .-1

I thought I heard that before, ... somewhere ...
2909.10the course has a strong basis in researchSMURF::WALTERSThu Feb 24 1994 12:2226
    
              -< no course can fight the aging process in humans >-
    
    Actually, it can.   Many head trauma victims suffer memory loss
    in varying degrees.  In some cases there are very specific deficits to
    memory called aphasias.  Rehabilitstion centres use memory improvement
    therapies to help sufferers cope.  These same courses of therapy
    have been used to alleviate memory deficits associated with aging
    or alzheimers disease.
    
    The basics of the couses are the same as you would find in these mind
    improvement courses - most of them are described in any basic
    psychology textbook, which can be had for a lot less than $400.
    
    The noter here who had trouble with names and faces would
    probably benefit from the same strategy used to assist someone
    suffering from nominal aphasia - the associative method, which
    is mentioned in the course outline.
    
    It must work - I remembered all this stuff from Neuropsychology
    classes all those years ago....... ;-)
    
    Colin
    
    
      
2909.11Save $390! :-)USHS01::HARDMANMassive Action = Massive ResultsThu Feb 24 1994 12:595
    Or for $10 or so, you could just buy Tony's book "Use your perfect
    memory". I got it, I just keep forgetting to read it! ;-)
    
    Harry
    
2909.12ICS::BEANAttila the Hun was a LIBERAL!Thu Feb 24 1994 19:108
    re: .8
    \nasser is absolutely incorrect in what he said about age.
    
    Attending the course mentioned in this string would provide all the
    evidence one needs to verify this statement.
    
    tony
    (who frequently does not capitalized his name... for personal reasons)
2909.13a good rebuffle and a rebuttle to a fellow DECeeeeSTAR::ABBASIthinking about itFri Feb 25 1994 04:1414
    .12
    
    >re: .8
    >\nasser is absolutely incorrect in what he said about age.
    
    oh yea?
    
    well, i stand by what i said fully and square.
    
    so what you have to say now?
    
    \nasser
    
    
2909.14Are you "saying" what I'm "hearing?"DEMON::PILGRM::BAHNPossibility of IDICFri Feb 25 1994 13:0439
    re: .8 & .12

    Are the two of you as self-righteous and angry as your writing 
    sounds to some of us?  Have you ever heard of probability and 
    conditionals?

    At least, in .8, \nasser uses a "maybe" ... he allows for the
    possibility that something might be able to retard the aging
    process ... but, the rest of the note gives me the impression 
    that \nasser believes that memory is a talent that can't be 
    developed.  We're able to improve and fine-tune our other 
    attributes.  We can learn to run faster, to reason more
    effectively, to be kinder to each other.  Might we not be able 
    to learn to use our memories better as well?

    My problem with .12 is the phrase "absolutely incorrect."  I 
    agree that \nasser is probably incorrect in what he's written.
    The inferences that I derive from the words and phrasing that 
    he's chosen don't "ring true" to me either.  Nevertheless, we 
    have no way to be so certain of the "absolute" incorrectness of 
    his words.

    The "laws of science" are statements of extremely high
    probabilities.  Few useful programs can be written without using
    conditionals.  When you write in certainty and absolutes, that's 
    what I read.  The moment that I think of a counter-example to 
    your words, I have a tendency to reject your argument as ill- 
    conceived.  It's hard to believe that I am alone in that 
    tendency.

    Consider the possibility that, instead of someone's words being 
    wrong, some words may be missing ... and add them.  From that 
    sort of discussion and debate, we usually create new ideas and 
    possibilities ... ideas and possibilities that could be the 
    future of the world.

    Terry

2909.15Einstein on memoryIAMOK::YENDERFri Feb 25 1994 16:2214
    The story is told that Albert Einstein was asked for his phone
    number by a friend.  Mr. Einstein, the story goes, proceeded to look
    up his phone number in the telephone directory.  His friend was
    amazed that this respected intellectual did not know his own
    phone number and expressed surprise.  Mr. Einstein replied
    that he did not want to encumber his busy mind with trivial 
    information that can easily be retrieved from other places!
    
    Perhaps Albert had the best idea: don't carry it around in your
    memory - just keep a good inventory of pointers...
    
    /George
    
    
2909.16\nasser who?WRKSYS::SCHUMANNFri Feb 25 1994 17:079
re .14

Terry,

   \nasser is just a pseudonym of Dave Barry. Dave somehow has access to this
   notes file and contributes random bits of disruptive humor. To understand
   this is detail, do a DIR/all/author=abassi and see for yourself.

--RS
2909.17Amazing ...DEMON::PILGRM::BAHNPossibility of IDICSat Feb 26 1994 04:0110
      re .16

      >>> \nasser is just a pseudonym of Dave Barry. 

          Thanks for the info.  I'm quite surprised.  Dave is much
          funnier in his syndicated column.

      Terry

2909.18Engineer or humorist?CSC32::D_RODRIGUEZMidnight Falcon ...Sat Feb 26 1994 13:4812
 >         Thanks for the info.  I'm quite surprised.  Dave is much
 >         funnier in his syndicated column.

That's because Dave gets paid big bucks for syndication.  Here, he
is a morale booster. :*)

Kinda reminds me of the rumor I heard from a guy majoring in 
Radio-TV-Film back in college ... The Beatles were a creation of the 
CIA (or FBI) to take the younger generation's mind off the JFK 
assasination.

(... and no, the student was too young to have been Oliver Stone...)
2909.19Thank heaven for 7/11ICS::MWHITNEYSat Feb 26 1994 19:572
    Whew, I was glad to find out it was Barry. I was almost feeling sorry
    for the uninformed    /nasser