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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

1554.0. "Buying a used VAX?" by CALS::THACKERAY () Tue Aug 13 1991 19:02

    How would an employee go about buying a used VAX (say a 3100) from
    Digital?
    
    Ray
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1554.11550?SANFAN::ALSTON_JOWed Aug 14 1991 00:482
    Have you looked at note 1550?
    
1554.2DIAL not for employee purchasesSMOOT::ROTHDoing work of 3 people:Larry,Curly&MoeWed Aug 14 1991 01:514
DIAL is for internal transfer of assets within DEC. Employee purchase
is somthing else entirely.

One might try the SHALOT::EMPPURPRO notesfile...
1554.3BUNYIP::QUODLINGI'll have some of what Marketing is Smoking...Wed Aug 14 1991 12:3010
    OR type VTX EPP.
    
    THe Employee Purchase Program is predominantly centred around PC
    systems but you can get a PV014-BA (MOno VS3100 1 * 104 Mb disk) for
    only $6,660. Sheesh, I can buy a fully blown MAC IIfx for about half
    that... I'm just hoping that some new hardware coming along soon does
    the right thing....  :-)
    
    q
    
1554.4MR1PST::MODEL::NEWTONWed Aug 14 1991 23:089
   Where can you buy a "fully blown MAC IIfx" for $3,330?  If I remember
   correctly, the IIfx is the most expensive Macintosh.  A "fully blown"
   configuration would probably cost between $9,000 and $14,000 (list --
   you could probably get 30% off fairly easily).

   Digital EPP prices do seem pretty high - it takes the EPP discount to
   make Digital PC prices begin to approach the normal price of clones -
   but let's not understate other vendors' prices.
1554.5BLUMON::QUODLINGI'll have some of what Marketing is Smoking...Thu Aug 15 1991 01:319
    re .-1
    
    Apple's external EPP gives 30% off, Apple Developer Price is 50%, Apple
    internal EPP works out to about 70%. I have a friend who can buy at the
    devo rate. I am told from a good source, that the fx will drop
    significantly in price, when the new IIex hits the streets in a month
    or so.
    
    q
1554.6Property Disposal CenterBOOVX1::MANDILEBut ma, it followed me home,honest!Thu Aug 15 1991 15:485
    PDC is now making used furniture, equipment, etc. available
    for purchase by Dec employees....PDC is where the DIAL stuff
    goes after it has been listed the required amount of time.
    
    HRH
1554.7How to contact "PDC"?CSC32::J_WETHERNGod's Plan > man's planThu Aug 15 1991 18:453
    How does one contact the "PDC"?
    
    John in Colo. Spgs.
1554.8VTXWFOV11::ABERTCarl Abert WFO/C8 DTN:242-2521Fri Aug 16 1991 00:099
    
    
    To check what PDC is offering, try:
    
    
     $   VTX PDCSTORE
    
    This is a "new" VTX database, it still is being initially loaded, so
    keep checking in - the selection is growing.
1554.9VTX PDCSTORE didn't work for me.CSC32::J_WETHERNGod's Plan > man's planFri Aug 16 1991 14:3514
 .8>   To check what PDC is offering, try:
 .8>   
 .8>   $   VTX PDCSTORE
 
    I get a "%VTX-E-BRKNOKEY, There is no page with that keyword" error
    when I try the above.  Is this another service that only east-coasters
    have unequal (i.e. "unfair") access to, or is something just not configured
    properly on our main nodes here in Colorado Springs?

    Not to get upset (too much), but if there are reasonable deals on
    surplus gear that only a limited numbers of DECcies are privy to, then
    something is wrong!
    
    8-|
1554.10Unless DEC can't sell the DECstation, it is not available!LABC::RUFri Aug 16 1991 14:486
    
    VTX PDCstore lists only non-computer items.
    You can't compare a MAC and a workstation.  MAC is not
    a unix machine, not a RISC machine,  while DECstation has
    the potential of running OSF in the future.  That is probably
    why DEC won't offer it in EMP.
1554.11RANGER::CANNOYTrue initiation never ends.Fri Aug 16 1991 16:552
    Well, a Mac can be a Unix machine. Mine at home is. And several in the
    office are.
1554.12ResellersSUBWAY::MCILREEFri Aug 16 1991 19:313
    Could always call up the third-party resellers. I've seen used 3100
    M30's going for around $3-5K. Don't know about memory or disk, though.
    
1554.13NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Aug 20 1991 18:186
re .9:

Since PDCSTORE stuff is cash and carry, there's not much point in it
being available outside New England.  I don't know if this is the reason
you're having trouble with VTX, but I doubt if you'd want to shlep a
bookcase from NH to CO.
1554.14equal time to all employeesCSC32::R_GROVERThe CIRCUIT_MANTue Aug 20 1991 20:089
    RE: -.1
    
    I think the concern here is, WHY is this stuff only available in
    Mass./N.E.? WHY does surplus/salvage have to be shipped back to that
    area to be sold off...? WHY not have a place here, that employees living
    here can take advantage of...? WHY should the east be exclusive to this
    stuff.?????
    
    
1554.15STRATA::JOERILEYMom said I couldWed Aug 21 1991 08:028
    RE:.14

    	I think your absolutely right.  Maybe you should contact somebody
    at the PDC-store and find out why they're doing this.  I'm sure that 
    it would be more cost affective to sell surplus goods locally than
    shipping them all back east.

    Joe
1554.16NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Aug 21 1991 12:235
Before you jump to the conclusion that surplus furniture and the like is
shipped from all over the U.S. to Contoocook, NH, you might consider
contacting your local facilities people to ask them what happens to
their surplus stuff.  My guess is that the PDC only gets stuff from
New England.
1554.17SALEM::BERUBE_CClaude, G.Wed Aug 21 1991 12:4515
    Rep to <<< Note 1554.16 by NOTIME::SACKS "Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085" >>>

>My guess is that the PDC only gets stuff from New England.

    Gerald,
    
    As  one  who  had  spent February thru June  '91,  working  a  DEC-Flex
    contract  in  Contoocook  on  the Idle Assest program (recycling  DEC's
    unused equipment back into the company  i.e.   DIAL).  I can safely say
    that  PDC was receiving stuff from everywhere  i.e.    San  German  PR,
    Pheonix Ar, Cupertino CA as well as locations on the east coast.  Since
    they closed Pheonix and it's associated PDC, there is only  one PDC for
    the US/GIA, not sure what Europe does.
    
    Claude