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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

2751.0. "do ya wanna surf ?" by MPGS::QUISTG () Fri Oct 29 1993 10:25

    I still here .... various groups get "awards" trips to Hawaii..
    
    	question... we post a loss, the TFSO chances are still around
        us all...who would still approve/plan/fund /go-to such events ?
    
        some still think its ok and deserved ! some say the money is 
    	from a different "pile"..  would any of you in your own 
        family, tell your son or daughter to "forget your tuition
        this semester...I deserve this new car ?!!! "
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2751.1CVG::THOMPSONWho will rid me of this meddlesome priest?Fri Oct 29 1993 11:1813
    
>        some still think its ok and deserved ! some say the money is 
>    	from a different "pile"..  would any of you in your own 
>        family, tell your son or daughter to "forget your tuition
>        this semester...I deserve this new car ?!!! "
    
    I wouldn't. I drive an old heap so I can pay my son's tuition. But I
    know more than a few parents who say they can't afford tuition but have
    all the "toys" they want. It's all a matter of priorities. You pay for
    the things that are important to you. Right now sales is pretty
    important to this company. Should we cut back on sales?
    
    			Alfred
2751.2you cant lose what you aint got!WCCLUB::TERRITOFri Oct 29 1993 11:422
    How could we tell the difference?
    
2751.3MRKTNG::BROCKSon of a BeechFri Oct 29 1993 13:253
    re -1
    I find that answer somewhat insulting to the thousands of people who
    generated $3,015,000,000.00 in revenue in Q1.
2751.4PARVAX::SCHUSTAKWho IS John Galt!?Fri Oct 29 1993 16:3811
    I find this line of reasoning ABSURD!!!
    
    Name ANY company of ANY substance that doesn't have a COE-like program
    for sales.  I didn't go this past year, I only brought in >$5M in
    revenues, $1M over budget, with a profit of approx $700k (if the
    reports I've seen bear any semblence to reality).  You want to see
    virtually every Digital sales person leave? Go ahead, convince someone
    that COE (actually, DECathlon, which was sales-only, still struck me as
    a better program) should be cut as a cost-savings effort.
    
    This would have a very negative impact...
2751.5We Must Continue TO Recognize SuccessODIXIE::GELINEAUMon Nov 01 1993 02:189
    
    Seems like I saw this same story last year.  Our successful sales
    persons are equal to any in the industry and as such should be
    recognized for their overachievement.  An opportunity to participate in
    COE is what drives that extra revenue at the end of Q4 for sales
    persons in competition with their peers.  Part of selling is pride of
    winning and COE recognizes both consistant and over achievement.
    
    
2751.6ZPOVC::HWCHOYSimply Irresistible!Mon Nov 01 1993 04:205
    The problem with COE is not that it spends money, or recognises
    deserving folks (sales or otherwise), but the selection process can be
    'managed' or 'engineered'. I once had a DM that managed to get himself
    to COE two years in a row. Does he care about customer satisfaction,
    etc, etc?
2751.7KLUSTR::SOUTHY::GardnerSouth Boston MudsharkMon Nov 01 1993 11:396
	geez....I can't believe that people are gonna waste yet another
	thread on COE....this has been discussed to death many many times
	before.....try 2141.* with its 100+ replies if your memory
	fails....

	_k
2751.8POCUS::RICCIARDIBe a graceful Parvenu...Mon Nov 01 1993 14:583
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    YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!