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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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2140.0. "K.O. Speaks" by USPMLO::JSANTOS () Thu Oct 01 1992 19:21

    Reprinted from the Boston Globe, October 1 issue, without permission;
    
    
                               K.O. SPEAKS
    
                  Digital founder distances himself 
                  from his company.
    
    Maynard - On his last official day as president of Digital Equipment
    Corp., founder Kenneth H. Olsen sought yesterday to distance himself
    both from the $14 billion company he founded and from his successor,
    who is scheduled to make his first public statement this morning.
    
         The 66-year-old Olsen has not spoken with reporters since he
    shocked the computer industry by stepping down July 16. Sitting in
    shirtsleeves on a bench outside his new office, Olsen talked for about
    25 minutes during the chilly afternoon, speaking in reflective tones
    with sporadic flashes of irritability.
    
         "I would like to have left after the next turnaround," said Olsen,
    who refused to answer directly as to whether he had been fired by
    Digital's board. "I do not run from problems". He added that "the
    stories are not all true. But they are not the sort of thing you
    comment on. Once you start the details go on forever."
    
         The nations second-largest computermaker has posted three straight
    quarters of operating loses, and reported a whopping loss of nearly $2
    billion for its fiscal fourth quarter, which ended June 27. That number
    included a $1.5 billion reserve that Digital has set aside for layoffs
    and plant closings. In fiscal 1992, Digital lost $2.79 billion.
    
         Olsen contradicted statements from Digital that he handpicked
    Robert B. Palmer, the vice president who officially ascends to
    president and chief executive officer today. "I wasn't directly
    involved," Olsen said, adding that "I don't have any negative thoughts"
    about the 51-year-old Palmer. Does he have, then, positive thoughts?
    "Don't ask too many hard questions," Olsen said flatly.
    
         To be sure, he did not express overwhelming confidence in Palmer,
    a seven-year veteran of Digital, or the management team he is
    assembling. "Its too early to say what they will do," Olsen said.
    Palmer will address a group of reporters and analysts at 11:30 this
    morning.
    
         Most analysts expect the 113,800-employee company to lay off
    around 15,000 workers. Olsen, who ran Digital for 35 years, maintained
    an informal no-layoffs policy until 1991. "We never used the word
    layoffs," he said. "We helped people find other jobs internally or
    externally. With the insistence of the press on numbers all the time,
    it brutalizes the whole process. It was always done gently, without the
    humiliation and brutalness of reading it in the paper. But the world is
    different now."
    
         Indeed Olsen said that he hoped Digital would not completely
    abandon his style. "Sometimes the numbers have to be more large, and
    things can't be done more slowly," he conceded. Sources close to the
    company have said that Olsen's departure at least in part resulted from
    his unwillingness to lay off large numbers of employees.
    
         If such a layoff is in the offering, Olsen certainly went to great
    pains yesterday to make it clear that "I literally haven't been
    involved" in any aspect of Digital over the last three months. He said
    his lack of involvement "just seemed like an obvious thing to do from
    everybody's point of view. It was never discussed."
    
         He said he has written hundreds of pages of advice - covering such
    subjects as how to run meetings, picking employees and the "nature of
    our business" - mostly to Palmer. He said that Palmer has welcomed his
    memos, and encouraged him to send more. "I said that when I retired,
    I'd never be one of those who interfered, but i've probably done my
    share of interfering," Olsen said.
    
         But, he added, "I never had this feeling of owenership" about
    Digital, in which he owns roughly two percent of stock. "I don't at all
    have those emotional things I think you are looking for. I'm a
    professional manager."
    
         One area about which Olsen clearly does feel emotional is the
    circumstances of his departure. He said that it was "nobody's business"
    what goes on at Digital board meetings, and claimed that "I don't know
    a lot of things." When pushed further, Olsen raised his voice saying,
    "No, no, no, don't push. Don't be a pain in the neck. I said we are not
    going to discuss it."
    
         He added, There are all kinds of implications, and they will all
    come out wrong in the Globe anyway."
    
         Asked about reports that he had told a group of engineers that he
    was fired, Olsen claimed that he did not remember saying it, but
    admitted that "senior people said I did." He rather cyptically added
    that "you're pushing too hard on words. There are different kinds of  
    meanings."
    
         As to whether he would still like to be running Digital, he said
    that "from the start, I only asked to stay as long as I was the very
    best."
    
         Apparently, that exit instinct also applies to his role as board
    members. In July Digital said that Olsen, who serves as de facto
    chairman, would serve out his term, which ends in November 1993. But on
    September 14 Digital announced that Olsen would step down as of today.
    
         Had he stayed, he said, "I would do it poorly. I know too much.
    The board is suppose to look at things at a distance and with
    objectivity. I know all the questions to ask. Its not good. I'm a nice
    member of other boards."
    
         Aside from serving on other boards, and giving speeches, Olsen did
    not elaborate on his future plans. Although he described himself as
    more of an engineer than an entrepreneur, he would not rule out
    starting another business. "I'm young, and who knows what happens in
    the future," he said. 
    
         As for the immediate future - today - Olsen said that he would not
    appear at Palmer's corporate coming-out-party. "It will be like any
    other day," said Olsen, who started Digital when he was 31-years-old.
    "I've got a list of things to do, a list of calls to make, and a bunch
    of letters I'd better answer."
    
         With that, Olsen - who was happy to have gotten his fax machine
    repaired - rose a lumbered back into the house that will now serve as
    his office. But he did allow himself one moment of sentimentality. Sort
    of.
    
         "I don't miss the hoopla. I'll miss tilting at reporters," he
    said, focusing his eyes on the one who happened to be present. "I'll
    miss them asking their dumb questions, and trying to straighten them
    out."      
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2140.1RespectPCCAD::DINGELDEINPHOENIXThu Oct 01 1992 22:008
    As far as I can tell Ken had only one trait that caused him so much
    trouble as of late, he cared about the people who counted on him. His
    committment to excellance and his desire to achieve was contagious.
    I see him as a caring person in a very impersonal corporate arena. I
    remember how we'd all joke about how our president drove a Pinto! Kinda
    gives you a feel of what his priorities really are. I wouldn't be
    surprised if 5 years from now a new player arrives in the marketplace
    starts gobbling up market share. I think you know what I mean.  
2140.2CRUISE::HCROWTHERGotta move these re-friga-rators!Fri Oct 02 1992 00:415
    For those of you far away from Greater Maynard, today the electric sign
    on the Maynard Elks lodge was flashing...
    
           Best Wishes / Badge #1 / Ken Olsen / 35 Years
    
2140.3Ken's home address ?TODD::WARNOCKTodd Warnock @CBOFri Oct 02 1992 01:574
    If one wanted to write Ken Olsen (and not some corporate office that
    answers his mail from customers), how would they go about it ?
    
    [Is Ken's home address available ?]
2140.4JGODCL::KWIKKELThe dance music library 1969-20..Fri Oct 02 1992 07:343
    .3  yes please...how?
    
    Jan.
2140.5ASICS::LESLIEThe best is yet to beFri Oct 02 1992 08:403
    Try mailing him via message router, summat like
    SUBURB::MRGATE::"MLO::KEN OLSEN". I'm sure his mail will be forwarded
    to him at his new office in Stow.
2140.6enough is enough!GRANPA::JNOSTINFri Oct 02 1992 11:389
    Noone will ever truly know the circumstances why Ken retired.  It
    really doesn't matter anyway.  He was and is a "great" man.  He's
    caring and never forgot the employees.  One could say that Ken was
    too trusting.  I strongly believe that some employees, that includes
    management and in particular senior management, took advantage of
    Ken and his values.  Everyone agrees that something must be done and
    done soon to get Digital back to profitability.  I say "start at the
    top!".  Enough is enough!  No more "bird cage" mentality.
    
2140.7VERGA::WELLCOMESteve Wellcome PKO3-1/D30Fri Oct 02 1992 11:554
    
    More than anything else, I am proud to have worked for him.  Will
    I be proud to work for Bob Palmer?  We'll see.  
    
2140.8Looks like the elves have been slacking offTLE::AMARTINAlan H. MartinFri Oct 02 1992 12:1315
Page: 1                        Find an Employee             ELF Infobase: ZKOELF

Common Name:   KEN OLSEN
Search Surname:  OLSEN  Search Given Name:  KEN,  KENNETH,  KENNETH H
DTN:  223-2301  Intrnl Mail Addr:  MLO12-1/A50  Location:  MLO
Org Unit:  OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT
=====
Page: 1                        Find an Employee             ELF Infobase: ZKOELF

Common Name:   BOB PALMER
Search Surname:  PALMER  Search Given Name:  BOB,  ROBERT,  ROBERT B
DTN:  223-6600,  223-6600,  223-7100  Telephone:  (508)493-6600,
(508)493-7100  Intrnl Mail Addr:  MLO10-2/A54  Location:  MLO  Node:  @CORE
Username:  BOB PALMER  Org Unit:  W.W. MFG HEADQUARTERS
Position:  PRESIDENT AND CEO ELECT
2140.9on the contrary, the elves are VERY busy!CTHQ::DWESSELSFri Oct 02 1992 12:3226
    The following fields in ELF are controlled by Personnel:
    Common Name:
    Search Surname:
    Search Given Name:
    DTN:
    Intrnl Mail Addr:
    Org Unit:
    
    Employees can provided additional information in the following fields:
    Location
    Node Name
    Username
    DTNs
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    Position
    Org Units
    Searchable Given Names
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    US and EUR update feeds are processed weekly; GIA submits monthly. 
    With all the upheaval in the Company these days, the Elves and
    Personnel have been kept very, very busy maintaining the ELF/DDS
    database.  If you would like to more thoroughly understand the process,
    drop me a line.
    
    /Diane
2140.10BOT000::LANEFri Oct 02 1992 13:024
Alan Martin sez "Looks like the elves have been slacking off."

Alan, be _very_ careful about what you say about the elves. Next thing you
know, you'll be transferred to Pango Pango to count grommets.
2140.11CTHQ::DWESSELSFri Oct 02 1992 14:376
    Gee, now that I know we elves can effect transfers, I think I'll send 
    myself on short-term re-assignment to Hawaii!
    
    8^)
    
    /dlw
2140.12ASICS::LESLIEThe best is yet to beFri Oct 02 1992 18:111
    Hawaii? Can I go to DEC New Zealand please?
2140.13are people seriouse about it or just saying that?STAR::ABBASIi speak therfor i think therfor iamFri Oct 02 1992 18:3110
    >Hawaii? Can I go to DEC New Zealand please?

    why do people want to go so far away from where all the actions and
    the excitement is happening? 

    i mean here you can turn a corner and you might flip over a big VP or 
    some big manager like that, but if you go Hawaii or New Zealand, you'll 
    miss all that , and the feelings of being immersed in it all !

    /Nasser
2140.14SQM::MACDONALDFri Oct 02 1992 18:4311
    
    Re: .13
    
    > .. i mean here you can turn a corner and you might flip over a big VP or 
    > some big manager like that ... 
    
    What with the goings on in the last couple of years the VP density
    might now be where this is literally true. ;^)
    
    Steve
    
2140.15drowning?LGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63)Fri Oct 02 1992 18:597
re Note 2140.13 by STAR::ABBASI:

> and the feelings of being immersed in it all !
  
        We really are immersed in it, aren't we?

        Bob
2140.16The dreaded org unitSMAUG::GARRODFloating on a wooden DECk chairFri Oct 02 1992 22:1211
    
    Re:
    
>BOT000::LANE                                          4 lines   2-OCT-1992 10:02
>
>Alan, be _very_ careful about what you say about the elves. Next thing you
>know, you'll be transferred to Pango Pango to count grommets.
    
    Or if you're really unfortunate to an ORG UNIT of U.S. AREA MANAGEMENT
    
    Dave
2140.17Closer to the Continental DivideTLE::AMARTINAlan H. MartinSat Oct 03 1992 02:134
Re .10,.16:

You don't know how close you are to the truth today.
				/AHM
2140.18DIODE::CROWELLJon CrowellSat Oct 03 1992 02:358
    
    I'm sure you could get it to him by writing to:
    
    Mr. Kenneth H. Olsen
    Lincoln, MA  
    
    ------------------
    
2140.19Pride isn't an issue, Food on the table is ...AUSTIN::UNLANDSic Biscuitus DisintegratumMon Oct 05 1992 22:2712
re: <<< Note 2140.7 by VERGA::WELLCOME "Steve Wellcome PKO3-1/D30" >>>

    
>   More than anything else, I am proud to have worked for him.  Will
>   I be proud to work for Bob Palmer?  We'll see.  
    
    I, too, am proud to have worked for K.O.  As for the second part
    of it, the question is more likely how long will I be working for
    Bob Palmer, not whether I'm proud of it or not ...
    
    
    
2140.20I'd go work for that comany!!GUIDUK::EVANS_BRBruce Evans, CASE ConsultantMon Oct 05 1992 22:4511
    re: basenote
    
       I think there are quite a number of DECies that would go work with
    Ken in a flash due to his personality style (eg: caring, hard-working,
    ethics).
    
      I hope he *does* start a new business. It would give DEC a run for
    the money! Just as Ken always maintained that competition is good for
    an organization, I think this would be good!
    
    Bruce Evans
2140.21Ken's addressTODD::WARNOCKTodd Warnock @CBOTue Oct 06 1992 01:0718
    re.3 (answering my own question :-)

    It appears to be corporate policy (at least "Ken's Office Policy") not
    to give out his home address.  However, I was told that I could avoid
    the administrative shuffle by sending mail to either his electronic
    mail account or to:
    
    146 Main Street, MLO12-1/A50, Maynard, MA 0l754
    
    Todd

    As an interesting note, here's Ken's "title" on his return mail:
    
    
From:	NAME: Ken Olsen                     
	FUNC: President Emeritus              
	TEL: 223-2301                         <OLSEN.KEN AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>

2140.22LGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63)Tue Oct 06 1992 20:2412
re Note 2140.21 by TODD::WARNOCK:

>     As an interesting note, here's Ken's "title" on his return mail:
>     
>     
> From:	NAME: Ken Olsen                     
> 	FUNC: President Emeritus              
> 	TEL: 223-2301                         <OLSEN.KEN AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>

        I note that Ken is already out of ELF.

        Bob
2140.23ROULET::JOERILEYEveryone can dream...Wed Oct 07 1992 06:185
    	I kind of feel cheated.  I've worked for DEC for 18 years now
    and I've never met Ken and now it looks like I never will.

    Joe
2140.24He can be found . . .CAPNET::CROWTHERMaxine 276-8226Wed Oct 07 1992 11:0911
        <<< Note 2140.23 by ROULET::JOERILEY "Everyone can dream..." >>>


>    	I kind of feel cheated.  I've worked for DEC for 18 years now
>    and I've never met Ken and now it looks like I never will.

>    Joe

Ken will have an office in the Stow facility starting in November.  Why don't
you call his secretary or send a mail message and set up an appointment?

2140.25SSDEVO::ROLLOWAnd then there were none...Fri Oct 09 1992 03:536
	Right before the announcement of his retirement, there was
	an announcement that K.O. would be visiting a number of
	facilities.  When I saw that Colorado Springs wasn't on
	the list my response varied from "So what" to "Isn't that
	special".  Please remember that there is lots of DEC out-
	side Greater Maynard.
2140.26NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Oct 09 1992 14:391
Clearly nobody in Colorado told him how great the fishing is out there.
2140.27NABETH::alanAnd then there were none...Fri Oct 09 1992 16:593
	Ah, so that's how it works...  So what are BP's hobbies?  Knowing
	that we can find a suitable incentive to come here if he decides
	to go on a road trip.
2140.28Colorado Rocky Mountain Hi-eeeeeeeeeeeee!SWAM2::MCCARTHY_LAThey gave me the Digital salute!Fri Oct 09 1992 18:111
    You're in luck! He likes to ski!
2140.29ASICS::LESLIEAndy LeslieSat Oct 10 1992 13:194
    Alan, Is there a Posche factory there that I missed?
    
    
    :-)