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Name | Date | Lines |
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| 2068.1 | Apple PCs via DEC India | ALFPTS::GCOAST::RIDGWAY | Florida Native | Tue Aug 25 1992 17:08 | 5 |
| I had a memo in my inbasket this morning, but I deleted it. The bottom line
is that we are going to product Apple (Macintosh?) pcs through the Digital
India Program (DIEL).
Keith R>
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| 2068.2 | a little data | SGOUTL::BELDIN_R | D-Day: 218 days and counting | Tue Aug 25 1992 17:08 | 4 |
| The only detail I have is that I read in VTX (about six months ago)
that they will be designed and built in Taiwan.
Dick
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| 2068.3 | | AIMHI::BOWLES | | Tue Aug 25 1992 17:25 | 7 |
| There was an article in this morning's Boston Globe confirming that DEC
had announced plans to build a line of PCs in Taiwan. John Rose was
mentioned. Quotes from current DEC employees. Also speculated that we
would not be making lots of margin on the machines--rather we would
rely on related products and services to make our money.
Chet
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| 2068.4 | Made in Taiwan | NEST::CESARIO | Vinyl Dinosaur | Tue Aug 25 1992 17:29 | 12 |
|
There is an article on this in today's Boston Globe Business section.
The lead-in...
"Marking its debut as a maker of personal computers, Digital
Equipment Corporation said yesterday that it would begin
manufacturing six new PCs in Taiwan. The machines will be
assembled at seven locations worldwide, including Springfield."
Lou
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| 2068.5 | Gimme a break! | FINALY::BELLAMTE | Me fix! Want bannana NOW! | Tue Aug 25 1992 18:28 | 6 |
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_DEBUT_ ?? .... That's too kind .... they could have said:
"Marking it's latest desperate attempt as a maker ....."
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| 2068.6 | What I did during lunch today... | FRITOS::TALCOTT | | Tue Aug 25 1992 18:31 | 3 |
| Full article from the Globe will be in tomorrow's VNS.
Trace
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| 2068.7 | Tiger Announcement | COMET::BARRIANO | choke me in the shallow water... | Tue Aug 25 1992 19:57 | 141 |
| This is the announcement of the new Tiger PC's
The bad news is, they probably will not be available thru the Employee Purchase
Program for quite a while, if ever. Demand is expected to be heavy.
Regards
Barry_who's_still_waiting_for_his_DEC_PC
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From: AKOCOA::MATUS "PC Group Marketing" 18-AUG-1992 22:39:18.40
To: LJOHUB::DENAULT,LJOHUB::NUSBAUM
CC: MATUS
Subj: Please distribute via your lists
Digital's new PC family will be announced in the U.S. on August 25. The
following text is scheduled to be distributed via Sales Flash on Friday,
August 21. It is being sent to you in advance. PLEASE KEEP CONFIDENTIAL
UNTIL LAUNCH DATE.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
New Digital Manufactured Low Profile PCs
HIGHLIGHTS:
.Complete family of Digital built industry standard low profile
Desktop PCs: 386SX, 386DX, 486SX, 486DX and 486DX2 products.
.Many industry leading features in 386DX and all 486 models:
- Upgradable
- Local bus video with GUI (Graphical User Interface)
acceleration which runs Windows up to 4 times faster
than ordinary PCs.
- Built-in 128K cache
.Competitive low prices. (Our systems cost less than the
comparable Dell systems with shipping and we have more features.)
.New advertising campaign: "The Perfect PC"
.Available from Desktop Direct.
OVERVIEW
On August 25, in the U.S., Digital will announce a new family of
Personal Computers that are designed, engineered, and manufactured by
Digital. With these new PCs we will provide our customers with the
high performance and high reliability they need at a truly competitive
price.
These PCs offer excellent Price/Performance functionality over a
complete family of LP (Low Profile) products:
Product Name Processor CPU Speed
DECpc 333sx LP 386SX 33 MHz
DECpc 340dx LP 386DX 40 MHz
DECpc 425sx LP 486SX 25 MHz
DECpc 433dx LP 433DX 33 MHz
DECpc 450d2 LP 486DX2 50 MHz
DECpc 466d2 LP 486DX2 66 MHz
The DECpc 386SX LP is a highly competitive offering. Starting at
$899 without a monitor, our system is 32% faster than the
similarly priced Compaq ProLinea 386SX model and includes the
following additional features: one additional ISA slot, 64KB of
cache, a larger hard disk drive, and Microsoft Windows installed.
The 386DX and 486-based systems will be launched using the new
"Perfect PC" campaign. In July 1992, PC Magazine described what
they would like to see in a perfect PC. Now, Digital will
manufacture it. In the ad, we will specifically mention several
features and will include the following chart which compares one
member of the LP family to the competition:
+------------------------------------+-------+--------+-------+
| | DECpc | Compaq | Dell |
| | 433dx | Deskpro| P |
| | LP | I | 433 |
+------------------------------------+-------+--------+-------+
| Upgradable | yes | yes | yes |
| Cache included | 128K | 8K | 8K |
| Cache maximum | 256K | 64K | 256K |
| Local bus video | yes | no | no |
| GUI (windows graphics) acceleration| yes | yes | no |
| Maximum RAM | 64 MB | 32 MB | 64 MB |
| Hard disk bays | 2 | 1 | 1 |
| Shipping included in price | yes | N/A | no |
| List price | $1849 | $2449 | $1849 |
| Estimated street price | $1849 | $2252 | $1849 |
+------------------------------------+-------+--------+-------+
Major features of the entire LP family are:
.Fully Industry Standard: Tested by National Software Testing
Lab for software and hardware compatibility. NSTL tests are
very detailed and only truly industry standard systems pass.
.SVGA video: Supports up to 1024x768 non-interlacing monitors.
.Three available full size 8/16 bit ISA slots.
.Four disk bays: 2 Front-Accessible, 2 Internal Bays
.Low Profile and Small Size- 3.5"H x 16.1"W x 15.6"D
.145 Watt Power Supply, Auto-Sensing with Low Noise Fan
.Packaged Configuration will include Keyboard, Mouse, MS-DOS 5.0
and Microsoft Windows 3.1 (Installed)
Pricing for the LP family is extremely competitive. Here are sample
prices for a configuration with 4 MB RAM, 122 MB Hard Disk and our new
high quality 14-inch 1024x768 low radiation monitor, keyboard, mouse,
MS-DOS and Microsoft Windows:
Product Name Qty 1 Price
Catalog Without
Price Monitor
DECpc 333sx LP $ 1649 $ 1199
DECpc 340dx LP $ 1999 $ 1549
DECpc 425sx LP $ 2099 $ 1649
DECpc 433dx LP $ 2299 $ 1849
DECpc 450d2 LP $ 2449 $ 1999
DECpc 466d2 LP $ 2649 $ 2199
Note that the $899 configuration of the DECpc 333sx LP includes 2 MB
of RAM and a 52 MB disk.
More information will follow in the September 7 Sales Update Article
with packaging and pricing information. Information is also currently
available in the "New and Revised Products" section of the CSO portion
of the Electronic Connection.
Digital has made a major investment to provide you leadership PC
Products at competitive prices. Make sure that Digital PCs are on the
Authorized Vendor List in your accounts. Encourage your customer to use
Desktop Direct to place specific orders or any of our Digital Resellers
for specific solutions. Work with your local Desktop Team to stay
informed on the growing market opportunity to help you meet the needs of
your customers.
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| 2068.8 | aka TIGER ... looks great! | SELL1::COUTURE | Gary Couture - NH Sales Support | Tue Aug 25 1992 20:00 | 13 |
| The new pc's are code named TIGER and it looks to be an EXCELLENT product
and a excellent price!!
they are 386 & 486 upgradable pc's with Taiwan parts and US assembly. Our
customer response has been great so far. I've been talking to customers
about them for a month or so and have already sold quite a few. Our biggest
problem right now is building them fast enough. There will not be enough to
meet the inital demand. This is a new problem for digital! I think the TIGER
product is what we need to finally become a serious player in the desktop
market and I'm very positive about it.
gary
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| 2068.9 | Looks like we were both right! Apple and DEIL.... | ALFPTS::GCOAST::RIDGWAY | Florida Native | Tue Aug 25 1992 20:09 | 41 |
| Digital Equipment (India) Ltd. to manufacture Macintoshes for Apple.
Apple Set to Roll Out Macs from India by November
BANGALORE, INDIA, 1992 AUG 18 (NB) -- The first batch of Apple
Macintosh desktops manufactured by Digital Equipment (India) Ltd.
(DEIL) are expected to be out by November this year.
Though DEIL is planning to offer the entire Apple range, it will
begin only with Macintosh LC IIs.
DEIL's foray into desktop business is the offshoot of a mutual,
worldwide, distribution agreement between Apple Computer and
Digital Equipment Corp.
According to DEIL sources, Apple, which was operating in India
through Raba Contel, was finding it increasingly difficult to market
its systems in India as importing desktops is laden with many a
restriction. The systems Raba Contel managed to sell in India were
the ones that were being passed off as desktop publishing systems.
Apple is said to have handed over manufacturing and distribution
to DEIL to tap the true potential of the market for Macs in India.
Ravi Chauhan, marketing manager (desktops) in DEIL, says that the
Macs manufactured locally would not just be marketed in the domestic
market. They would also be exported and a bulk of them would be
bought back by Apple itself for marketing abroad.
While DEIL is still a long way from working out the pricing of the
machines, Chauhan expects them to cost 50 percent less than the
rates at which imported Macs are sold now. Presently, a Macintosh
LC II with standard configurations from Raba Contel costs about Rs
195,000 ($6,500).
DEIL would extensively use dealer networks to market Apple Macs
and there would be very little direct marketing. Raba Contel's
relationship with Apple would undergo a change. Henceforth, Raba
Contel would be a distributor of DEIL.
DEIL has already an ongoing marketing agreement with Modi Olivetti
Ltd. for selling the latter's DOS-based microcomputers. "The
relationship will continue," says Chauhan, "It will be
complimentary to our own desktop business."
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| 2068.10 | from VTX LIVEWIRE | CTHQ::DWESSELS | | Tue Aug 25 1992 20:13 | 47 |
| TM
digital Worldwide News LIVE WIRE
Digital introduces PC family based on integrated worldwide business
strategy
Digital has introduced a family of high-performance, upgradable desktop
PCs and launched a new, worldwide strategy to increase the profitability
of its PC business.
The Digital-built, industry-standard DECpc LP (Low-Profile) family
includes a 66-MHz 486DX2 system that uses Intel's fastest 486 processor,
released earlier this month. Five of the six new models offer extremely
high-performance graphics technology and plug-in processor upgrades.
The six modular PC family models are configured and priced to serve a
wide range of applications and users.
o ENTRY-LEVEL SYSTEM: DECpc 333sx LP uses a 386SX processor running
at 33 MHz, which typically is 32 percent faster than competing 25-MHz
386SX machines.
o CPU-UPGRADABLE SYSTEMS: DECpc 340dx LP, DECpc 425sx LP, DECpc 433dx
LP, DECpc 450d2 LP and DECpc 466d2 LP are 386- and 486-based units
with clock speeds of 40 MHz, 25 MHz, 33 MHz, 50 MHz, and 66 MHz, for
demanding desktop business and technical applications.
Components will be manufactured at Digital's Taiwan facility and
assembled and tested at seven Digital "integration centers" worldwide:
Springfield, Mass.; Kanata, Ontario, Canada; Tokyo, Japan; Taoyuan, Taiwan;
Sydney, Australia; Sao Paulo, Brazil; and Ayr, Scotland. The products will
be shipped directly to customers from the integration centers.
The business strategy for the new PC family will serve as a franchise
model, under which all Digital regions will follow similar business
practices. All aspects of the entire process of product engineering,
manufacturing, and worldwide distribution will be involved.
Digital test-marketed the business strategy earlier this year when it
introduced a 386-based PC in Asia, Australia, South America, and
Canada. The results included tremendous cost savings and superb quality.
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| 2068.11 | Hands On a 433dx LP (low profile) | GLDOA::DLAVALLEY | | Tue Aug 25 1992 22:14 | 10 |
| I had a chance to play with one of the new PC's, it came out here as
a field demo. 486, 33Mhz, what a screamer! Comes with a graphics
accelerator and video bus that makes it seem much faster than the
usual 433. Looks good too, low profile cabinet looks less boxy than
your generic PC. I can't believe we had the smarts to build a value-
add machine (SVGA and fast graphics) and not "premium price" it!!!
I wonder if we make any money at these prices?
D.
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| 2068.12 | Here a DEC, there a DEC, everywhere a DEC! | NEWVAX::MZARUDZKI | I am my own VAX | Wed Aug 26 1992 11:18 | 6 |
|
Quantity has a Quality all it's own.
Market share! With these and Alpha we could own the desktop.
-Mike Z.
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| 2068.13 | Staying tuned... but fearing the worst! | IW::WARING | Silicon,*Software*,Services | Wed Aug 26 1992 19:36 | 2 |
| I only hope that DEC classic get to sell these boxes here!
- Ian W.
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| 2068.14 | They were used at DECworld...! | MR4DEC::FBUTLER | | Wed Aug 26 1992 20:51 | 12 |
|
We had over 70 of the Tigers at DECworld, although many people may
not have noticed them since the word was not really out about them
at the time. They very well (especially for a new product) and we
had excellent support from the Springfield team! (in fact, they
were among the most cooperative, positive, and energetic people
my team dealt with).
Jim (still working on decworld...)
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| 2068.15 | Wall Street Journal | ANOVAX::JWICKERT | Vote Libertarian | Thu Aug 27 1992 16:01 | 4 |
| See the 8/27/92 issue of the Wall Street Journel for an article on
this subject. It was very favorable.
JRW
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| 2068.16 | | SA1794::GUSICJ | Referees whistle while they work.. | Tue Sep 01 1992 18:37 | 14 |
|
Just to add.. First, Tiger is the code name for a family of DEC
PC's. First there was Tiger I which wasn't sold in the U.S. Now comes
Tiger II which will be sold in the U.S. and is a full CPU family.
Can't comment on whether there will be a Tiger III or not, but let's
just say that here in Springfield, we are scheduled to build in the
mid-four digit range over just the next 8 weeks.
It appears that we (DEC) are trying to move in the right direction
and Tiger could get us there.
bill
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| 2068.17 | More favorable press | GIAMEM::LEFEBVRE | PCG Product Management | Fri Nov 13 1992 15:00 | 80 |
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DIGITAL EQUIPMENT IS MOST-IMPROVED PC VENDOR, SURVEY SAYS
MAYNARD, Mass. -- November 12, 1992 -- Digital Equipment Corporation
is the most-improved PC vendor for the second consecutive year,
according to a survey of more than 3,000 PC users by Datamation
magazine and research firm Cowen & Co.
The survey, which rated 20 leading PC vendors, said Digital's
net gain of 48 percent increased favorability was higher than any
other PC vendor's. The 1992 survey said 50 percent of Digital PC
users have a "more favorable attitude" toward Digital than they did
last year, while only 2 percent said they had a less favorable
attitude.
The Datamation/Cowen & Co. survey ranked Dell Computer second,
with a net gain of 44 percent increased favorability, Gateway third
with a 43 percent gain, and Apple Computer fourth with a 35 percent
gain.
"Anyone who thinks Digital is not succeeding in the PC business
is dead wrong. Digital came out of nowhere and built a sizable
presence in a short time," said Datamation publisher Michael Wisner.
"They are clearly a significant player."
Compaq ranked eleventh with a 15 percent net gain, while IBM
was ranked sixteenth with a net loss of 10 percent.
The results of the survey will be published in the November
15, 1992 issue of Datamation.
In the 1991 Datamation/Cowen & Co. survey, Digital shared most-
improved PC vendor rating with Apple Computer, with a 38 percent net
gain in user favorability.
"Digital has made many significant improvements in its PC
business this year. We've cut prices, cut delivery times, improved
our warranty service, and introduced more competitive PC
technology," said Jay H. Atlas, vice president, U.S. Channels,
Digital Equipment Corporation.
Digital initiated its Desktop Direct catalog business in
January. Market research firm Computer Intelligence has ranked
Digital among the industry's fastest growing PC makers in each of
the past six months. And Direct Marketing magazine has ranked
Digital the largest computer vendor in direct response marketing.
The Datamation/Cowen & Co. survey was based on 3,058
questionnaire responses received from a sampling of 65,000
Datamation readers.
Datamation is a semimonthly magazine for managers of
information technology and executive information systems managers.
Founded in 1918, Cowen & Company is the nation's second oldest
and second largest brokerage partnership. The firm is perhaps best
known for its expertise in technology and health care research. In
1991, Cowen's 14 institutional equity analysts earned 12 places on
the prestigious All-America Research Team, as published each October
by Institutional Investor magazine.
Digital Equipment Corporation, headquartered in Maynard,
Massachusetts, is the leading worldwide supplier of networked
computer systems, software and services. Digital pioneered and
leads the industry in interactive, distributed and multivendor
computing. Digital and its business partners deliver the power to
use the best integrated solutions - from desktop to data center -
in open information environments.
####
Note to Editors: DESKTOP DIRECT is a trademark of Digital Equipment
Corporation.
CORP/93/841
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| 2068.18 | A wee bit of good news about the 425's | SYSTEM::COCKBURN | Craig Cockburn | Sun Nov 22 1992 09:36 | 34 |
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SYSTEM::COCKBURN "Craig Cockburn" 28 lines 20-NOV-1992 17:15
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A nice bit of news about the 425's:
Craig
------------ Forwarded mail received on 20-Nov-1992 at 06:36:09 ------------
From: VBORMC::"silver.e@zooid.guild.org" "Eric Silver"
To: edieng::cockburn
BTW Craig,
I just bought 56 LP 425 DEC workstations (LP == Low Profile ?) for
my office LAN. They're great machines and run well on a Novell LAN.
I hope I can order 35 more before Canada's finance minister announces
a budget freeze. Now the next step will be getting access to DEC-NET !
Regards,
Eric Silver - York, Upper Canada.
"Legitimize dissent in Canada!"
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