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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

736.0. "Stay within your own branch?" by WEDOIT::BELDIN () Fri Mar 03 1989 16:11

    
    Has anyone heard of any "upper-level directive" for organizations
    to hire within their own branch of DEC before going outside that
    branch?  That is, if an organization falls under the Field Service
    umbrella of the company, they are forced to hire from within that
    branch before going to, say, Manufacturing or Engineering.  I was
    told by a recruiter that this situation "may continue for a while."
    
    Does this sound like a corporate-wide strategy or like something
    that is within one plant or division?
    
    Rick Beldin
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736.1SCARY::M_DAVISCoffee, please. Irregular.Fri Mar 03 1989 16:177
    I haven't heard anything such as that.  I'd guess that if a certain
    section of the company, say Manufacturing, were overstaffed and had
    people looking for jobs, it would be rude to hire in someone from
    another organization without looking at the "excess" folks in
    Manufacturing first... but I've not heard of any directive.
    
    Marge
736.2TOLKIN::KIRKMatt Kirk, 291-8891Fri Mar 03 1989 17:173
    The last time I was looking (last summer) there were req's open for MSB-only
    or SEG-only.  Most of the MSB-only req's were actually LTN-only
    since Argonaut had just been cancelled.
736.3COOKIE::WITHERSYou know you can't memorize ZenFri Mar 03 1989 17:574
Well, not to disagree with Marge, but that's the directive I've heard recently
about hiring in CSCs - that you should hire from field service first.

BobW
736.4My parachute would be flame-colored!!BAUCIS::WELCHFri Mar 03 1989 18:5918
re: < Note 736.1 by SCARY::M_DAVIS "Coffee, please. Irregular." >
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<    I haven't heard anything such as that.  I'd guess that if a certain
<    section of the company, say Manufacturing, were overstaffed and had
<    people looking for jobs, it would be rude to hire in someone from
<    another organization without looking at the "excess" folks in
<    Manufacturing first... but I've not heard of any directive.
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<    Marge


I hope we are not rejecting better qualified job applicants from other DEC
groups, who themselves may be 'excess' (and therefore just as entitled to 
preference), simply because it might be "rude" to hire them.


-KpW

736.5HEADCOUNTJAWS::DIAZCMG/CDG/SAMGFri Mar 03 1989 19:3310
    It all has to do with headcount.  Group managers are looking  closely
    at not increasing the headcount since they have been given very clear
    orders from the top, and I would venture  that  in  the  case a group
    decreases the headcount they probably can't increase it again.
    
    In the case the slot has a high priority  my  guess is that, in order
    not to increase hadcount in one organization, they have to  hire from
    within.
    
    Octavio
736.6SCARY::M_DAVISCoffee, please. Irregular.Fri Mar 03 1989 19:4510
    re .4:
    
    So far as I know, we in CSSE are not restricted as far as where we can
    look internally to hire... we have, however, been asked to get v.p.
    signature on external hires... 
    
    Marge
    
    p.s. Bob, the fact that I wasn't aware doesn't mean it doesn't exist!
    ;^)
736.7Mastery of patience leads to mastery of allWHYVAX::SAVAGENeil @ Spit BrookMon Mar 06 1989 17:404
    My experience agrees with Octavio's description of the situation in .5.
    I did succeed in hiring outside my group (which is Corporate User
    Publications) but I had to have a convincing case and be patient
    while the powers deliberated.