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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:	The Digital way of working

Moderator:	QUARK::LIONELON

Created:	Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	5321
Total number of notes:	139771

717.0. "HOW TO BECOME A MANAGER IN SWS !!" by CURIE::SRINIVASAN () Sun Feb 05 1989 14:20

                      
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Note 690.20                 Role of Personnel at DEC                    20 of 24
WKRP::CHATTERJEE "Whatever did happen to Baby Jane?" 12 lines  28-JAN-1989 23:28
       -< This is how it works to become a manager in Software Services >-
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>    To be a manager in Software Services, we have to go through the
>    MDC, a review board comprised of an Area SWS Manager, two second
>    level managers (usually DMs), and a personnel manager type.  We
>    have to bone up on many facets of Digital's policies and then get
>    quizzed on it.  This is whether new hire or otherwise. 
    
    I BET MY BOTTOM DOLLAR, THAT MOST OF THE MANAGERS WILL FAIL THE
    TEST !! I ALSO DO NOT BELIVE THIS IS TRUE FOR NEW HIRE MANAGER..
    HOW CAN WE EXPECT SOME GUY FROM OUT SIDE AN ORGANIZATION, WHO IS
    JUST BEING INTERVIEWED TO KNOW ABOUT THE ORANGE BOOK....
    
>    So, I can say for SWS that we do have a policy that managers cannot manage
>    without the required knowledge-base.  
    
    THIS IS TOTALLY WRONG FOR NEW HIRES ! I HAVE SEEN LOT OF NEW HIRE
    MANAGERS IN A PARTICULAR AREA, WHO WERE HIRED WITHOUT GOING THROUGH
    MDC. 
    
>    And, we go to the MDC only after a fully charted nine-stage obstacle 
>    course of interviews and/or classes. 
    
    AGAIN THIS IS NOT TRUE FOR NEW HIRES.. 
    
    TYPICALLY IN THE SWS, IT IS A BIG NET WORK.. IF YOU ARE PART OF THE
    NETWORK OF VPs and DMs THEN YOU  ARE IN AS A MANAGER.

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
717.1	test the process	CTOAVX::WEBBER	Caroline Webber	`Tue Feb 07 1989 15:47`	6
	It might be interesting to submit a qualified resume (lets say yours) with a false name and your home phone and see if you get any calls to come in for an interview....:-) Caroline
717.2	We are getting to a professional management training program...	YUPPIE::COLE	The TOUGH survive the bleeding edge!	`Tue Feb 07 1989 16:33`	6
	Topic 720 is also taking up this subject, and 720.1 gives a brief overview of the Management Development Program now used by most all Field organizations to put employees on the management "short-list". In SWS, there is no longer an MDC. You still have to interview the next couple of managers up the chain, however, to get a management job!
717.3	It lives	CSOA1::DWYER		`Fri Oct 13 1989 23:29`	1
	With regard to 717.2, the MDC is alive and well in ECA.
717.4	I was little premature in .2 ...	YUPPIE::COLE	If this is a dream, please feel free to wake me!	`Sat Oct 14 1989 14:23`	4
	... since I wasn't aware that the Southern Area is the only one testing the "new" Management Certification Program under Country aupices. Sorry about that!