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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

5349.0. "DECMCC and VMS 6.0 / CMA" by ICS::BARRY () Fri Jul 16 1993 17:43

    Hello,
     I'm having a problem with DECmcc V1.3. We've been running DECmcc on
     VMS 5.5-2 with no problems. I've just upgraded to VMS 6.0. Now we're
     having incompatability problems with CMA and MCC. We've tried
     replacing the CMA executables with the previous versions, with no
     luck. Also, with the VMS upgrade, there is an additional CMA file,
     CMA$TIS_SHR.EXE.  Has anyone had any experience VMS 6.0 and MCC?
    
     Any help would be appreciated....
    
     Chris
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5349.1VMS 6.0 - how?GIDDAY::DRANSFIELDMike Dransfield, Sydney RSSGWed Jul 28 1993 00:477
    re: .0
    The same question.
    How do we run DECmcc with VMS V6.0?
    There are a couple of notes that say it has been done with a bit of
    hacking.....
    thanks,
    Mike
5349.2Can anyone respond to the CMA problem, pleas?OSLACT::BJORNMon Oct 04 1993 14:3210
5349.3Use MCC's versionBIKINI::KRAUSEEuropean NewProductEngineer for MCCTue Oct 05 1993 07:1320
>Is CMA
>Threads implemented in VMS V6.0 itself, and thus causing the mismatch?

I don't know for sure but would expect that VMS V6.0 (as the versions 
before) comes with CMA. Since MCC V1.3 works ONLY with it's own version 
of CMA I would suggest to restore the CMA files from the MCC kit to 
sys$library (save the originals before!!!). The files are:

Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]

CMA$LIB_SHR.EXE;4                            176/177     30-APR-1992 14:39:20.00
CMA$OPEN_LIB_SHR.EXE;2                        12/12      30-APR-1992 14:39:19.00
CMA$OPEN_RTL.EXE;4                            24/24      12-JUN-1992 16:40:43.62
CMA$RTL.EXE;4                                257/258     12-JUN-1992 16:41:12.77

Total of 4 files, 469/471 blocks.

CAUTION: Other application that need CMA may break now!!!

*Robert
5349.4Dont do it....TOOK::LYONSAhh, but fortunately, I have the key to escape reality.Mon Oct 18 1993 20:2712
    Well, dont do it.....
    
    If you want to, then place the CMA images in a private area and define
    
    $ DEFINE CMA$LIB_SHR mydev:[mydir]CMA$LIB_SHR.EXE
    
    (Do this for all four images)
    
    Then, when you run MCC, it will use the private versions of CMA and
    not trash the rest of the system.  Getting this to work correctly
    	in all cases is left as an excerise to the reader.
    
5349.5How do you FIX it ??MSDOA::REEDJohn Reed @CBO, DTN:367-6463, KB4FFE, SouthEastWed Oct 20 1993 15:3816
    Hello;
    
    I just installed OpenVMS v6.0 on a VAXstation 4000/60, from the
    Sept1993 CDROM.  This kit included PolyCenter 400, which I also
    installed new from the CD.  I have the same error with CMA, as the base
    note, and the Timezone error.
    
    Would someone please post the set-by-step procedure to make
    PolyCenter400 work in this environment?  (virgin machine, on a customer
    site, all new software from CD)
    
    thanks,
    
    JR
    
    
5349.6here is how it's done ...GIDDAY::CHONGAndrew Chong - Sydney CSC Fri Oct 22 1993 00:4932
	Here is how I got mine to work. 
	There are 2 problems here. CMA mismatch problem and time differential
	mismatch .

	First the CMA problem

	There are actually 4 process logicals to be defined. 
	Place the CMA files from the MCC kit to a directory 
	(in this case I put it in [SYSLIB.MCC_CMA]). Define the logicals 
	in login.com of the mcc user. 


  $ DEFINE CMA$LIB_SHR   SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB.MCC_CMA]CMA$LIB_SHR.EXE
  $ DEFINE CMA$OPEN_LIB_SHR  SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB.MCC_CMA]CMA$OPEN_LIB_SHR.EXE
  $ DEFINE CMA$OPEN_RTL  SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB.MCC_CMA]CMA$OPEN_RTL.EXE
  $ DEFINE CMA$RTL   SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB.MCC_CMA]CMA$RTL.EXE

	This should make mcc use the correct cma images and maintain the new
	CMA images for other applications. 

	The second problem with invalid MCC_TDF or SYS$TIMEZONE_DIFFERENTIAL
	logical  is caused by the fact that the SYS$TIMEZONE_DIFFERENTIAL 
	logical takes on a default value of "-46800" seconds which is 
	"-13:00" hours.

	Simply execute SYS$STARTUP:UTC$CONFIGURE_TDF.COM , select option 1
	to modify the timezone information to the correct time zone value
	( +/-hh:mm ). The value should also match the logical MCC_TDF value.

	
	Andrew
5349.7Current VMS V6 compatibility issues?CUJO::BROWNDave BrownTue Apr 19 1994 20:0916
    
    	I need to find out what the current official story is on MCC and VMS 
    V6.0. A month ago or so, I was told that everything looked good between 
    MCC and V6 provided that the MCC V6.0 compatibility upgrade kit was
    installed. A couple weeks ago, when I contacted the support center, I was 
    told that there have been new problems discovered between MCC and VMS V6 
    and to not run MCC under VMS for the time being.
    
    	What is the current story? Are there newly discovered problems
    between VMS V6 and MCC? How severe are they? If our customer's system
    is currently at VMS V5.5-2 and they want to upgrade to V6.1, is this a
    good idea at this time as far as MCC is concerned?
    
    	Thank You,
    
    	Dave
5349.8MCC and VMS V6.xCUJO::BROWNDave BrownFri Apr 29 1994 19:278
    
    
    	Does anyone have any unofficial comments about the preceeding
    question?
    
    	Thanks,
    
    	Dave
5349.9ICS::CROUCHSubterranean Dharma BumFri May 13 1994 16:096
    I'd like to know as well as I'm preparing such an upgrade.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Jim C.
    
5349.10Still broken on OpenVMS VAX V6.1...NSTG::FOXDavid B. Fox -- DTN 285-2091Tue May 17 1994 20:0110
    I just installed Polycenter Network Manager 200 V1.3 on a VAX VMS V6.1
    system along with DECnet/OSI V5.7.  I'm getting the WRONG_CMA error as
    described in the previous notes.  It was apparently never fixed!
    
    In one of the previous notes, someone mentioned a VMS V6.0
    compatibility kit.  Does anyone know where this can be gotten from? 
    TIMA maybe?
    
    	Thanks!
    		David
5349.11Need Kernel ECOBIKINI::KRAUSECSC Network Management/HubsWed May 18 1994 08:1013
>    In one of the previous notes, someone mentioned a VMS V6.0
>    compatibility kit.  Does anyone know where this can be gotten from? 
>    TIMA maybe?

The MCCKRNECO01013 kit should be available via TIMA. (in case it is not,
get it from BIKINI::MCC_DISK:[BMS013.VMS.PATCH]). This ECO is needed for 
MCC to run on VMS V6.*.

ATTENTION: This ECO needs a 'workaround'!!
           Please read MCCKRNECO01013.README
           (it's also mentioned somwhere in this conference).

*Robert