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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

2092.0. "Trouble Starting MCC EVL process?" by SUBWAY::YANNIOS () Mon Jan 13 1992 20:13

    Am experiencing the followng problem when trying to set up 
    MCC_STARTUP_DNA4_EVL.COM to catch events (Note: modified to sink to
    the same node MCC is being run):
    
    $  @MCC_STARTUP_DNA4_EVL.COM
    %PURGE-W-SEARCHFAIL, error searching for
    SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR]MCC_DNA4_EVL.LOG;*
    -RMS-E-FNF, file not found
    DECmcc (T1.2.4)
    
    
    Node4 30.207 Object task
    AT 13-JAN-1992 18:08:16
    
    No such entity: Node4 nyws07 Object task
                             Unknown Entity = Node4 nyws07 Object task
    
    
    Node4 30.207 Object task
    AT 13-JAN-1992 18:08:19
    
    No privilege to perform directive at Node.
    
    Node4 30.207 Local Sink Monitor
    AT 13-JAN-1992 18:08:22
    
    No privilege to perform directive at Node.
    
    Node4 30.207 Local Sink Monitor
    AT 13-JAN-1992 18:08:23
    
    Specified entity in unacceptable state for directive.
    
    
    Node4 30.207 Local Sink Monitor
    AT 13-JAN-1992 18:08:26
    
    Attempt to create duplicate entity rejected.
    
    Node4 30.207 Local Sink Monitor
    AT 13-JAN-1992 18:08:26 Characteristics
    
    
    Specified entity in unacceptable state for directive.
    
    
    Node4 30.207 Outbound Stream 30.207 Remote Sink Monitor
    AT 13-JAN-1992 18:08:28
    
    Deletion completed successfully.
    
    Node4 30.207 Outbound Stream NYWS07 Remote Sink Monitor
    AT 13-JAN-1992 18:08:29
    
    Creation completed successfully.
    
    Node4 30.207 Outbound Stream NYWS07 Remote Sink Monitor
    AT 13-JAN-1992 18:08:29
    
    Pass completed successfully.
    
    Node4 30.207 Outbound Stream NYWS07 Remote Sink Monitor
    AT 13-JAN-1992 18:08:30
    
    Pass completed successfully.
    
    Node4 30.207 Local Sink Monitor
    AT 13-JAN-1992 18:08:33
    
    Internal error in DECnet Phase IV AM.
    
    $
    
    If I have an OCCURS rule defined, I get an Internal logic error from
    theIMPM if I try to enable/disable it.  the background EVL process
    shows up on show system.
    
    -Nick
    
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2092.1SUBWAY::YANNIOSMon Jan 13 1992 20:152
    PS: the process this was executed from had ALL privs enabled.
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2092.2a suggestionRANGER::SCHLENERTue Jan 14 1992 11:5211
    Well, it's been a long time since I've had to deal with the event sink.
    One thing to try. Place "set priv/all" command into your login.com. I can't
    remember if the detached process (which then runs the .com file to start
    the event sink - or that's what it did 2 years ago) gets passed the 
    parent's process privileges. If it doesn't, then the child process will
    get the privileges that are set up in your login.com. That may be
    insufficient for the MCC process.
    		Cindy
    
    
    
2092.3Set Priv UnsuccessfulSUBWAY::YANNIOSTue Jan 14 1992 13:0791
    
    
    Hi Cindy,
    
    Nope, still does not start up correctly:
    
    @sys$startup:MCC_STARTUP_DNA4_EVL.COM
    %PURGE-W-SEARCHFAIL, error searching for
    SYS$COMMON:[MCC]MCC_DNA4_EVL.LOG;*
    -RMS-E-FNF, file not found
    DECmcc (T1.2.4)
    
    
    Node4 30.207 Object task
    AT 14-JAN-1992 11:03:20
    
    No such entity: Node4 nyws07 Object task
                             Unknown Entity = Node4 nyws07 Object task
                                                                                    
    Node4 30.207 Object task
    AT 14-JAN-1992 11:03:23
    
    No privilege to perform directive at Node.
    
    Node4 30.207 Local Sink Monitor
    AT 14-JAN-1992 11:03:26
    
    No privilege to perform directive at Node.
    
    Node4 30.207 Local Sink Monitor
    AT 14-JAN-1992 11:03:26
    
    Specified entity in unacceptable state for directive.
    
    
    Node4 30.207 Local Sink Monitor
    AT 14-JAN-1992 11:03:29
    
    Attempt to create duplicate entity rejected.
    
    Node4 30.207 Local Sink Monitor
    AT 14-JAN-1992 11:03:30 Characteristics
    Specified entity in unacceptable state for directive.
    
    
    Node4 30.207 Outbound Stream 30.207 Remote Sink Monitor
    AT 14-JAN-1992 11:03:31
    
    Deletion completed successfully.
    
    Node4 30.207 Outbound Stream NYWS07 Remote Sink Monitor
    AT 14-JAN-1992 11:03:32
    
    Creation completed successfully.
    
    Node4 30.207 Outbound Stream NYWS07 Remote Sink Monitor
    AT 14-JAN-1992 11:03:32
    
    Pass completed successfully.
    
    Node4 30.207 Outbound Stream NYWS07 Remote Sink Monitor
    AT 14-JAN-1992 11:03:33
    
    Pass completed successfully.
    
    Node4 30.207 Outbound Stream NYWS07 Remote Sink Monitor
    AT 14-JAN-1992 11:03:33
    
    Pass completed successfully.
    
    Node4 30.207 Outbound Stream NYWS07 Remote Sink Monitor
    AT 14-JAN-1992 11:03:34
    
    Pass completed successfully.
    
    Node4 30.207 Outbound Stream NYWS07 Remote Sink Monitor
    AT 14-JAN-1992 11:03:34
    
    Pass completed successfully.
    
    Node4 30.207 Outbound Stream NYWS07 Remote Sink Monitor
    AT 14-JAN-1992 11:03:35
    
    Pass completed successfully.
    
    Node4 30.207 Local Sink Monitor
    AT 14-JAN-1992 11:03:35
    
    Internal error in DECnet Phase IV AM
    
    $
2092.4Let's see if this helps...JOPPA::BALLTue Jan 14 1992 17:1324
Hi Nick -
	One by one I'll attempt to explain what happened and see if we can't get
you up and running...
( 1 ) First
    $  @MCC_STARTUP_DNA4_EVL.COM
    %PURGE-W-SEARCHFAIL, error searching for
    SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR]MCC_DNA4_EVL.LOG;*
    -RMS-E-FNF, file not found
>> the dcl command issued was:
   $PURGE MCC_DNA4_EVL.LOG/keep=10
>> So the error you received is o.k. because there are no mcc_dna4_evl.log files
   in the sys$common:[sysmgr] directory...
( 2 ) Next under MCC the following command was issued:
      DELETE node4 <os_node> object task
>>    So the following message:
    No such entity: Node4 nyws07 Object task
                             Unknown Entity = Node4 nyws07 Object task
>>    is also exceptable because the object Task does not exist on node nyws07...
( 3 ) The next commands under MCC which could not be executed would require you
      to have oper and sysprv on the node4 in this case nyws07 thst is specified
      in the <os_node> portion of the MCC_STARTUP_DNA4_EVL.COM procedure...

- hope this helped
  darryl
2092.5ADD/PROXYBEAGLE::GUILBERTSerge Guilbert Netsystem @VBO-FRANCEFri Jan 17 1992 07:2918
    I get the same problem like you and try with the set proc/priv=all
    	and does not work.
    	for the error :
    	NO PRIVILEGE TO PERFORM DIRECTIVE AT NODE.
    
    	I solved this problem in adding my account in the proxy database.
    	like:
    	UAF> add/procy mynode::MCC MCC/default
    
    	But i get always the message at the end for the command:
    	
    	ENABLE node4 0 local sink monitor
    
    	Internal error in DECnet Phase IV AM.
    
    	I am investigating this problem to find a solution.
    
    			Regards Serge
2092.6Same problemLEMAN::BIROGeorges Biro - SR/ACTMon Jan 20 1992 06:0515
    I am experiencing exactly  the same  "Internal error in DECnet Phase IV
    AM." problem.

    Additionally, I am receiving warning messages during the create and pass 
    event directives.

    CREATE node4 peney outbound stream peney remote sink monitor class=0, -
    	event type = {0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9}
    %MCC-W-QUALUNKNOWN, qualifier is unknown: EVENT

    My system is running BMS T1.2.4, VMS 5.4-2 and DECnet Phase IV Extensions.

    Georges.


2092.7start LOCAL SINK with MODE FORMSBEAGLE::GUILBERTSerge Guilbert Netsystem @VBO-FRANCEMon Jan 20 1992 09:3023
    I try to investigate more the problem and try in starting from the 
    	MCC> prompt with the command:
    
    		MCC> ENABLE NODE4 XX.XXXX LOCAL SINK MONITOR
    
    	and i get the same message :
    	Internal error in DECnet phase IV AM.
    
    	After i try in using the mode forms of MCC
    	with this command.
    		
    		MCC> Use mode Forms 
    		and after do the command ENABLE NODE4 XX.XXXX local sink monitor
	
    	and IT WORKS !!!!!!
    
    
    	I don't understand why , but it create the MCC_DNA4_EVL process.
    
    	Next step is to try if event logger works fine with the process.
    
    
    						regards Serge
2092.8some answersTOOK::JEAN_LEEMon Jan 20 1992 20:2732
Hi all,

	Sorry that I wasn't available for an immediate response.  Hope you 
don't mind that I answer all questions in one note.

	1) Internal error when you ENABLEd the local sink.

	   This is a bug, already fixed.  

	2) Privilege violation for some commands.

	   Currently, users have two options for privileged directives.  
	   For all cases, the account used must have appropriate privileges.
	   
	   The first option is to specify explicit access, in MCC terms, 
	   you need to pass <by user, by pass> qualifiers.  The second 
	   option is to set a proxy to an account (if the proxy is not a 
	   default proxy, you have to specify the <by user> qualifier).

	   Specifically for enabling the local sink monitor, additional 
	   DEFAULT privileges (DETACH,SYSNAM,TMPMX,NETMBX) are required.

	3) Unacceptable state message

	   You will get this message when enabling the local sink monitor if
	   the local sink monitor STATE is non-existent or ON.  This
	   command will only work when the local sink monitor state iS OFF.

	Thank you for your input.

	Jean

2092.9What fix the problemBEAGLE::GUILBERTSerge Guilbert Netsystem @VBO-FRANCETue Jan 21 1992 09:486
    for 1) Internal error when you ENABLEd the local sink.
    
    
    		Can we have the fix ??
    
    					thanks Serge
2092.10Fix not yet available in a kitTOOK::MINTZErik Mintz, DECmcc DevelopmentTue Jan 21 1992 10:3111
We are considering when to make an internal update to the field test
kit available.  It will contain the fix for this problem, in addition
to others.

Unfortunately, "already fixed" just means that the code has been
changed to correct the bug, not that there is a newer kit with the
change included.  We do not have the resources available to support
distributing each bugfix to a management module during field test.

-- Erik

2092.11thanks for the answerBEAGLE::GUILBERTSerge Guilbert Netsystem @VBO-FRANCETue Jan 21 1992 12:383
    Thank you Erik for the answer 
    
    				Serge