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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

2228.0. "CHIPcom partnership" by STRASB::MOSER (Jean-Marc MOSER -- Strasbourg @ZTO) Thu Jan 30 1992 14:51

We are testing the management of CHIPcom HUB with DECmcc/VMS.
With tne SNMP_AM v1.1 we are managing the CHIPcom management card.

We experienced a lot of problem with the CHIPcom bridge card (5102B-EE).
The initial firmware (1.3) was not very reliable.
We work with the support and CHIPcom people who provide us a new firmware (2.0)
for the bridge card.
With the new firmware, the bridge card is now an IP entity with SNMP management
and a lot of beautiful features...

Were can we find the PRIVATE MIB description for this card ??

From our point of view, the relation whith CHIPcom are looking very "touchy",
it seems for example, that the final customer has to buy the firmware update
from CHIPcom.I hope that DIGITAL people are not discovering NOW that providing
materials from other partner is difficult to manage...

PEUGEOT, our customer is testing the CHIPcom hubs for his new factory.
PEUGEOT is not ready 
- to have 2 partners for one material and
- to pay CHIPcom for bug corrections...

Is there a procedure to obtain the firmware update for CHIPcom through DIGITAL 
official channels??

Many thanks for answer and suggestions..

Best regards, 

Jean-Marc MOSER @ZTO
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2228.1YAHEY::BOSEThu Jan 30 1992 15:526
>>Were can we find the PRIVATE MIB description for this card ??

	Have you tried out the chipcom private mib which is shipped with
	SNMP AM V1.1 kit ?

	rahul
2228.2Update Licenses?WOTVAX::HATTOSI think, Therefore I'm paid lessFri Jan 31 1992 08:5813
    With regard to the software update problem, I spoke to the Regional
    Sales Manager for Northern Europe yesterdy about this very subject.
    
    They understand that this could well be a problem and are working with
    DIGITAL very closely to resolve this issue. His gut feel was that an
    update license would be offered to our customers (by us) on purchase of
    the equipment. CHIPCOM would furnish us with the updates and based on
    these licenses distribute it to our customers.
    
    Sounded good to me, but the details have still to be worked.
    
    Stuart_who_is_desperately_trying_to_get_V2.0!!
    
2228.3TOOK::MCPHERSONScientific progress goes 'Boink!'Fri Jan 31 1992 11:588
re .2
>
>    Stuart_who_is_desperately_trying_to_get_V2.0!!
>    

	V2.0 of *what* ?

/doug
2228.4Online FirmwareWOTVAX::HATTOSI think, Therefore I'm paid lessFri Jan 31 1992 15:066
>>   <<< Note 2228.3 by TOOK::MCPHERSON "Scientific progress goes 'Boink!'" >>>
    
>>	V2.0 of *what* ?
    
    
    	Chipcom Management firmware for the online concentrator.
2228.5Why v2.0 ?BACHUS::FOLENSTue Feb 04 1992 05:3312
    
    Why would you need v2.0, the latest version is v2.1 ?
    If you need it you'll have to order it from Chipcom or via our
    logistics organisation. The firmware is licensed.
    The p/n's are:
    
    	- 5000-FDK which contains the Procomm software to download
    	  the microcode
    	- 5100M-UDK-2.10 which contains the actual firmware for the flash
    	  eeprom's on the EMM module.
    
    -Geert-
2228.6Bridge and Management modules CONFUSION...STRASB::MOSERJean-Marc MOSER -- Strasbourg @ZTOTue Feb 04 1992 07:2416
Hello happy SMART_HUB fanatics,
 

Please read carefully my very first question, I am asking about the 

	BRIDGE MODULE  5102B-EE (firmware version v2.0)

The SNMP_AM v1.1 contains only the Private MIB for the 
Management Card 5100M-MGT (firmware version v2.1 also called EMM v2.1).
There is no description file for the Bridge Card in the SNMP_AM kit.

The previous answers are mismatch between the 2 cards and 2 problems....

Best regards

Jean-Marc MOSER
2228.72.1 is the current agent, 3.0 next release.PA::E_HATEMTue Feb 04 1992 14:2114
    Jean-Marc,
    
    The Current Online agent is 2.1 as mentioned above, Chipcom has
    a Betta release available now, that requires their new MIB as well.
    So when it's released product it will 3.0, so Please note:
    the current Mib works with agent 2.1 or below, the new MIB I will
    post later on it works only with the 3.0 release. The 3.0 Betta
    release will be available in one week, so if anyone is interested
    in being a field test site please let me know, I will make the
    software available to you. for the 1.2 kit I think we will have both
    mibs I will keep you posted. I have to double check with the product
    manager and Engineering. 
    
    /elias 
2228.8CHIPcom V3 firmware delivery questionsSTRASB::MOSERJean-Marc MOSER -- Strasbourg @ZTOWed Feb 05 1992 06:4431
Elias,

We don't understand really your answer...

For the moment, on our CHIPcom Hub we have TWO (2) SNMP AGENTS (or more)
- the first one for the Management Card		5100M-MGT
  (with the PRIVATE MIB from SNMP_AM V1.1)
- the second one for the Bridge Card		5102B-EE
  (without Private MIB.)

Your answer is speaking about a new firmware (v3).
- Does'it mean that with the firmware (V3), the Chipcom Hub will
represent only ONE SNMP AGENT ??
This is very interesting and much more understandable from
customer point of view.

- Does'it also mean that our new Bridge Card firmware is only a
transient solution ??
In this case we have to explain to our customer not
to invest in DECmcc Rules, Procedures, etc on this card.

- What are our intention for V3 firmware delivery ??
* What are our intentions for the customer update procedure ??
* Will the customer have to pay for the update or is the update procedure 
like a FCO ?? 

Many thanks for your answers

Best Regards

Jean-Marc MOSER
2228.9Chipcom agent.PA::E_HATEMMon Feb 17 1992 13:4254
>Elias,
>
>We don't understand really your answer...
>
>For the moment, on our CHIPcom Hub we have TWO (2) SNMP AGENTS (or more)
>- the first one for the Management Card		5100M-MGT
>  (with the PRIVATE MIB from SNMP_AM V1.1)
>- the second one for the Bridge Card		5102B-EE
>  (without Private MIB.)
>
>Your answer is speaking about a new firmware (v3).
>- Does'it mean that with the firmware (V3), the Chipcom Hub will
>represent only ONE SNMP AGENT ??
>This is very interesting and much more understandable from
>customer point of view.
The V3 software is in alpha release right now it will be shipping around
june time frame. The V3 release is only for the Online Conecentrator not
for the bridge.
>
>- Does'it also mean that our new Bridge Card firmware is only a
>transient solution ??
The Bridge latest release is 2.0, the previous release was 1.3. The major 
differences between 1.3 and 2.0 are the followings:
  o mgmt lockup function prevention during heavy loads.
  o Spanning trees protocol by filter based on valid 16 bit protocol type.
  o Fix all identied bugs.

>In this case we have to explain to our customer not
>to invest in DECmcc Rules, Procedures, etc on this card.
>
>- What are our intention for V3 firmware delivery ??
Chipcom will be shipping v3 firmware around june time frame.

>* What are our intentions for the customer update procedure ??
>* Will the customer have to pay for the update or is the update procedure 
>like a FCO ?? 
Chipcom has software subscription services as follow:
			     US		        Europe
EMM     Single site service $290		$350
Bridge  Single site service $290                $350
Site License EMM            $5950               $7140
Site License bridge         $2950               $3540

These are Chipcom prices not sure about Digital prices.

hope this helps....elias
>
>Many thanks for your answers
>
>Best Regards
>
>Jean-Marc MOSER
>
    
2228.10Chipcom AM AND FMMQOOA::FMONETTEMontreal Sales SupportThu Feb 20 1992 14:1110
    I need to know if there is any plan from CHIPcom to implement any AM OR
    FM into DECmcc. It will be nice to have the name of the Interface (UTP
    or FIB) instead of interface 1 to 272 for the ONline concentrator.
    
    Any help will be appreciate
    
    Thank you in advance
    
    F.Monette