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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
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Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

1563.0. "new architecture document pointer" by NWACES::OBRIEN () Mon Sep 30 1991 12:51

    Could someone give me a pointer to the document describing the
    network management architecture that was (or will be) approved 
    as the international standard?
    
    What are the plans as far as retrofitting MCC to comply with this
    architecture?
    
    Thanks, Ania
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1563.1Not yet a pointer; a replyTOOK::CERNIWed Oct 02 1991 12:0628
    Hello Ania:
    
    Would that there was just one document on network management standards,
    but there are dozens already.  They fall into 4 major groupings:
    Overviews, Services and protocol (CMIP), How to structure management 
    information (SMI), and the management functions (SMFs).  The most 
    important standards are now international standardsd, and they very 
    much "look like" our technology.  This is not an accident, since we 
    submitted most of the basic technology to the standards process, and
    have been very active in the development of this technology into the
    final standards.  The work in the standards organizations is by no
    means finished, but it is well on its way. 
    
    We are already updating relevant parts of MCC to the final standard specs 
    (e.g., CMIP) and are formulating plans for other parts.  
    
    I would be glad to provide a list of these standards, and also send
    you some tutorial information.  There is also another piece of the
    picture being worked on, and this is called Profile development.  The
    profiles are implementors agrement on how the standards will be
    implemented so that maximum interoperability can be achieved.  These
    are becoming very important.  
    
    Let me know is you would like more information.
    
    Dorothy
                                                             
     
1563.2more quesionsNWACES::OBRIENTue Oct 15 1991 15:0511
    Sorry, for taking so long to anwser you but I was in the midst of
    closing Phase 3 for the last couple of weeks and did not have time for
    much else.  I have heard rumors that the standard that was either
    recently approved or will be approved shortly is somewhat different
    from:
    		EMA architecture?
    		MCC implementation?
    I do not seem to be able to get a straight answer from anyone. It is
    that aspect that is of interst to me.
    
    Thanks, Ania
1563.3Another AnswerTOOK::CERNIThu Oct 17 1991 16:4725
    Hi Ania:
    
    I hear you saying that you would like to have either a "YES, we conform
    to every management standard 100%." or "NO, we do not conform."  The
    world of standards -- development, implementation in products, and even
    conformance testing -- provide few if any absolutes!
    
    The best answer anyone can give to your question will not be in
    absolutes.  Our EMA is most definitely standards based.  The
    international standards already approved most definitely reflect our
    MCC product technology (see 1563.1).  Each version of our products gets
    us closer to the standards, which have been moving and changing
    targets.  It will take time to upgrade our products which were based on
    draft work to totally reflect the final standards (which are not even
    published yet.)
    
    And also, the answer to this question has lots of parts, because there
    are many standards and standards-in-process; lots of dcouments referred
    to as standards; and many MCC products.  And no one has a management
    product that conforms to the set of standards so far approved.  We are 
    probably closer than anyone else, worldwide, and giving it our best
    shot.  
    
    Dorothy
           
1563.4thanksNWACES::OBRIENMon Oct 28 1991 15:453
    Thanks. I did get a hardcopy of the OSF DME document.
    
    Ania