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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

1333.0. "DECmcc/VMS --> DECmcc/Ultrix" by HKGACT::SUSANCHAN () Tue Aug 13 1991 08:57

Need your recommendation.  

I have a customer looking for a network management solution now.  Currently 
he only have a number of 6xxx formed three cluster in three sites.  He is
planning to buy a VAXstation for VCS and a few DECstation.  So for the time
being mostly it is DECnet node, but by the end of this year he will form a 
number of PC LANs with a total of 80 PCs.  He is looking at PC LAN that support
SNMP or CMIP.  He also has a number of Vitalink Translan Bridge.

I would recommended DECmcc/VMS since it provide/will provide a wider scope
of management objects.  Whereas DECmcc MSU only limited to TCP/IP SNMP or 
DECnet IV node.  

But DECmcc MSU provide transition tool to DECmcc/ULTRIX, Does DECmcc/VMS also 
provide the transition tool if user want to switch from VMS to ULTRIX solution?

Also, I would like to clarify myself the following :
I see that DECmcc/VMS & DECmcc/Ultrix will provide the same network management 
solution except the platform is different and the probably DECmcc/ULTRIX may
have better performance on a RISC machine.  Am I right!!!!

Thanks.
Susan
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1333.1BSYBEE::EGOLFJohn C. Egolf LKG2-2/T02 x226-7874Tue Aug 13 1991 14:3832
                    <<< Note 1333.0 by HKGACT::SUSANCHAN >>>
                       -< DECmcc/VMS --> DECmcc/Ultrix >-

Need your recommendation.  

I have a customer looking for a network management solution now.  Currently 
he only have a number of 6xxx formed three cluster in three sites.  He is
planning to buy a VAXstation for VCS and a few DECstation.  So for the time
being mostly it is DECnet node, but by the end of this year he will form a 
number of PC LANs with a total of 80 PCs.  He is looking at PC LAN that support
SNMP or CMIP.  He also has a number of Vitalink Translan Bridge.

I would recommended DECmcc/VMS since it provide/will provide a wider scope
of management objects.  Whereas DECmcc MSU only limited to TCP/IP SNMP or 
DECnet IV node.  

But DECmcc MSU provide transition tool to DECmcc/ULTRIX, Does DECmcc/VMS also 
provide the transition tool if user want to switch from VMS to ULTRIX solution?
>	We do  need  to address this, and we plan to have tools/command
	file to move from DECmcc/VMS to DECmcc/Ultrix.  Will absolutely
	all data move?  Unsure, but the goal will be 100%.


Also, I would like to clarify myself the following :
I see that DECmcc/VMS & DECmcc/Ultrix will provide the same network management 
solution except the platform is different and the probably DECmcc/ULTRIX may
have better performance on a RISC machine.  Am I right!!!!
>	Yes, you are right.

Thanks.
Susan
1333.2ENUF::GASSMANTue Aug 13 1991 19:0313
    In the October release of MSU, support for DECnet IV, DEC bridges, FDDI
    bridges and concentrators, and DEC terminal servers will be included
    in addition to SNMP.  However, with all these protocols, one starts to
    see the usefulness of the integration style of MCC.  With MSU V1.1,
    when you want to do FDDI management, you must know the ELMS command
    structure.  When managing terminal servers, you are 'cut thru' to the
    terminal server and must use it's syntax.  Even with DECnet, you must
    know your NCP.  For your 'cluster' environment, and with the use of 
    VCS - you are best off sticking with the VMS platform and MCC, and 
    include the point products in SMS - then migrate to ULTRIX if it make 
    sense down the road. 
    
    bill
1333.3DECmcc opens up wider horizonsTOOK::MATTHEWSThu Aug 15 1991 14:3610
    Sometime within the next year VMS Systems management will become
    available that provides management of VMS including a subset of
    Cluster management using DNA CMIP as the management protocol. DECmcc
    will support this via the DNA5 AM. I am not sure what answer MSU
    will provide for this type of situation since there will be no
    management tool such as NCL, NCP, etc. to cut thru to. This is an
    example of the new agents which rely on DECmcc as their management
    application.
    
    wally