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Conference azur::mcc

Title:	DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:	Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:	TAEC::BEROUD

Created:	Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:	Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	6497
Total number of notes:	27359

251.0. "MCC/DNS relation" by TROU47::SLEE () Fri Aug 10 1990 21:18

    I have a question regarding MCC and its use/requirement for DNS.
    In reading over what seems to be a rough copy document dealing with
    an overview of DECdns and how it fits in with MCC, I'm left not
    knowing whether DNS is an option or a requirement, as far as MCC
    itself is concerned.
    
    Can someone explain their relationship more clearly, or direct me
    to some documentation that can? 
    
    I do have a basic understanding of DECdns, and probably a better 
    understanding of MCC (via documentation only).
    
    The other question I have is, if DNS is a must for MCC, then what
    are the implementation plans regarding the DNS namespace on Easynet.
    My efforts will soon be to implement MCC in Area 57 (of course
    following GIAs direction).
    
    Forgive me if I have not asked this last question in the right
    direction.
    
    
    Steve

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
251.1	required	GOSTE::CALLANDER		`Fri Aug 10 1990 21:51`	17
	If you already received a description of DNS/MCC your are most likely right that it was an early version. A lot of work has gone on in updating this aspect of the documentation since the EFT releases. I am not sure why it is ambiguos about the requirement though. My udnerstanding was that you are required to have DNS. Why it might not be so clear that we require it, is due to the fact that MCC will run without it. BUT.....and it is a big one, ONLY the FCL PM will work (DECwindows PM requires DNS); and your directive set will be drastically reduced (register/deregister...and al reference commands won't work). As to what the easynet plans are I will have to defer that question. If some one who has spoken to them has more info on that it would be appreciate.
251.2	MCC absolutely requires DNS	TOOK::STRUTT	Colin Strutt	`Mon Aug 13 1990 18:00`	14
	Let's be a littel clearer. MCC requires DNS. If you could possible make MCC work without DNS it would be nice for you, but completely unsupported, and may not continue to work in future versions the same way. Thus, consider how you will start to use (the corporate) name space as soon as possible. I assume you have "name czars" that can help you get at your "part" of Digital's own name space? Colin
251.3	Wouldn't it be nice...	WLYWLD::BRIENEN	Chris Brienen - DECmcc (non-DECnet) AMs	`Mon Aug 13 1990 18:03`	22
	DNS is required to run MCC... This requirement, to me, means that the network manager should have the DNS Name Server and MCC on the same node. Otherwise, DECmcc is rendered useless by any network problem affecting access to the name server (e.g. DECnet problems, Ethernet problems, etc). Jill's comment RE: drastically reduced directive set is, to me, a wash. Given a problem reaching the name server, the SET/SHOW commands supported by MCC would be useful in finding a network problem (particularly a problem affecting low-level functions). Perhaps we should be looking at a subsetted of MCC that would run without the Name Server if a problem of DNS access occurred?
251.4	Oops...	WLYWLD::BRIENEN	Chris Brienen - DECmcc (non-DECnet) AMs	`Mon Aug 13 1990 18:08`	3
	Oops. How did 251.2 get in ahead of me! Oh well, DNS is required to run MCC.
251.5	tcp/ip	MKNME::DANIELE		`Mon Aug 13 1990 18:43`	13
	> Perhaps we should be looking at a subsetted of MCC that would run without > the Name Server if a problem of DNS access occurred? And also for the tiny subset of users who might want to run DECmcc on an Ultrix system to manage TCP/IP, without DECnet?
251.6		TOOK::SWIST	Jim Swist LKG2-2/T2 DTN 226-7102	`Mon Aug 13 1990 20:54`	4
	re: .1 as I understand it, the ultrix version of DNS will eventually not require DECnet.
251.7		CAPN::SYLOR	Architect = Buzzword Generator	`Tue Aug 14 1990 18:23`	1
	Nor for that matter will the VMS version (I hope)