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Conference trucks::football;1

Title: Soccer Football Conference
Notice:Don't forget your season ticket.....
Moderator:MOVIES::PLAYFORD
Created:Thu Aug 08 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:608
Total number of notes:85903

13.0. "English League" by GALVIA::SPAIN (New personal name wanted) Thu Aug 08 1991 16:56

    
    This is the football League topic (English League).
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13.1Prediction TimePANIC::ANDERSONWarnock's Wheelbarrow in the FirstMon Aug 12 1991 17:3837
    
    A few predictions for the new season :
    
    Division 1	1. Arsenal			20. Oldham Athletic
    		2. Leeds United			21. Southampton
    		3. Liverpool			22. Luton Town (of course!)
    
    Division 2	1. Newcastle			22. Bristol Rovers
    		2. Barnsley			23. Southend
    		3. Oxford			24. Plymouth
    
    Division 3	1. Bolton			21. Hull
    		2. Brentford			22. Shrewsbury
    		3. Stoke City			23. Fulham
    						24. Exeter
    
    Division 4	1. Burnley			25. Aldershot
    		2. Crewe
    		3. Scarborough	
                4. Blackpool
    
    F.A. Cup Winners    : Nottingham Forest
    	     Runners-up : Chelsea
    
    Rumbelows (?) Cup Winners    : Leeds United
    		      Runners-up : Manchester City
    
    European Cup : Arsenal to reach quarter-final
    
    European Cup Winners Cup :	Man Utd to reach semi-final
    				Tottenham to reach 3rd Round
    
    UEFA Cup :	Liverpool to win it
    
    Rob
    
    But then again, last year I got virtually none right either.
13.2BaaaarnsleeeeyCOMICS::HAWLEYno, its a flower potTue Aug 13 1991 13:4813
    PANIC::ANDERSON...
    i LOVE you!!!
    
    at last someone else has seen that Barnsley are a class team capable of
    promotion...a team which so cruelly missed the playoffs last season.
    unfortunatley the sale of Carl Tiler, our England U-21 defender to
    Notts Forest will probably mean that our defence isnt as solid as it
    was last year. Shame really...tell me, is your prediction based upon
    Barnsleys performances against Notts Co.?
    see you in the first,
    
    Ian.
    
13.3First goalKERNEL::WATTERSONI wasn't pushed - I jumpedWed Aug 14 1991 15:2315
    
    Okay peeps, it's that time of year again.
    
    Lets have you predictions for the quickest First division scorer and
    the time of the goal.
    
    Rules:
    
    Two guesses per person 
    First division teams only
    Winning time and scorer will be determined by whovever buys Sundays
    'News of the World'.
    
    Paul
         
13.4I won in 1989KERNEL::WATTERSONI wasn't pushed - I jumpedWed Aug 14 1991 15:258
    
    
    Me first....
    
    Peter Beardsley    2 mins   Everton V Nottm Forest
    Paul Parker (OG)   1min     whoever V Man Utd
    
    Paul
13.5I didn't win in 1989 or 1990COMICS::PARSONSAnyone got a turquoise tracksuit ?Wed Aug 14 1991 15:273
    
    All of Saturdays games will end 0-0 and on Tuesday Lee Chapman
    will score after 3 seconds vs Forest.
13.6hedging my betsCOMICS::HAWLEYno, its a flower potWed Aug 14 1991 15:356
    
    1. Saunders                      2 mins.                Liverpool V Oldham
    2. Some Oldham player            2 mins.                Oldham V Liverpool
    
    Ian.
    
13.7HERON::ARNOLDNow Heading North!Wed Aug 14 1991 15:464
Saunders 1min
Mark 'Handbag' Hughes 2min

Tony
13.8The Clockwork ScouserPANIC::ANDERSONWarnock's Wheelbarrow in the FirstWed Aug 14 1991 16:3719
>>       <<< Note 13.4 by KERNEL::WATTERSON "I wasn't pushed - I jumped" >>>
>>                               -< I won in 1989 >-

    
    
>>    Paul Parker (OG)   1min     whoever V Man Utd
                                  ^^^^^^^
    
    Paul,
    
    Glad to see that you think my 'puny little club' will go 1-0 up against
    a 'Mega Big Huge' club :-)
    
    FWIW :
    
    Stuart Slater     -  3 mins, West Ham v Luton
    Teddy Sherringham -  18 secs, Forest v some-team-or-other
    
    Rob
13.9The Choccy bars are on meMINDER::MACDONALDIWed Aug 14 1991 18:019
    
    
    Choccy 3min - (the only) UTD v Notts County
    
    Graeme Sharp 4min - Oldham v some team or other
    
    
    
    im
13.10is it EOIN or OWN goal PARKER??MACNAS::MJGREANEYWed Aug 14 1991 19:2012
    	
    20 seconds, TEDDY SHERINGHAM FOREST  v. everton
    
    	2 seconds   Paul (eoin goal) Parker  v. whatever
    
    
    
    
    
    "U REDS"
    
    M.J.
13.11Ronnie and Aldo.ESSB::MCUNNIFFECARPE DIEMWed Aug 14 1991 19:258
    
    Ronnie Whelan after 20 secs. after a beautiful move invovling Nicol,
    Wright and Walters who crosses beautifully for Saunders, his shot is
    parried by the keeper for Ronnie to pounce.
       In the 2nd div., THE GREAT ALDO will put the ball in the net after
    45 secs. against Brighton.
    
       Martin.
13.12Shome mishtake shurely?GVAADG::BUENOWed Aug 14 1991 20:106
!!!In the 2nd div., THE GREAT ALDO
          +++                 ++++
    
    Can this be? Are we dreaming? 
    
    I think we should be told.
13.13quick scoreSTAR::CASSILYThu Aug 15 1991 06:318
    
    re: .3
    
    Spurs - Lineker
    
    Aston Villa - Platt
    
    Mike
13.14ESSB::MCUNNIFFEIt's a long time since '67Thu Aug 15 1991 11:425
    Re previous note,
                    If Platt manages to score for Villa on Saturday, that
    will be a neat trick indeed as he has moved to Bari in Italy for 5.5m.
    
        Martin.
13.15In the right net of course.WELPUT::BWALKERCome on you Hatters.Thu Aug 15 1991 19:207
    Brian Stein AKA Brown Stain after 2 mins.
    
    West ham V. Luton.
    
    Don't laugh I'm serious.
    
    Barry.
13.16And I'm serious too 8-)CURRNT::PAGEDThe Sultan Of WobbleThu Aug 15 1991 19:331
    Look at those pigs fly !!
13.17If He Signs........DUCK::WILSOND1Thu Aug 15 1991 19:513
    Gordon Durie    2 mins for Spurs at the Dell.
    
    Dave...
13.18Are you watching Jimmy HillESSB::SONEILLThu Aug 15 1991 20:0015
    	Gary,
    
    	When I pressed "DIR" for the first time on the new conference I was
    surprised to see that the English First Division wasn't included. On
    further investigation I see that the "Football League" was I presume
    a Freudian slip on the keyboard.  What do they play in countries such
    as Italy, SPain and Germany?
    
    But then I suppose it is "the greatest football league in the world" next
    to China's Ping-pong championship.  
    
    Shane
    
    
    
13.19leave off Shane!!!ESSB::BREEThu Aug 15 1991 20:1215
    
    Shane,
    
    Gary is just a nice guy. Leave him alone you sh*tstirrer, northsider,
    white socks/black slip on shaper!!!!!!
    
    
    p.s. Mr. Moderator, Shane and I know each other so don't get panicky.
    
    
    Paul
    
    
    
    
13.20Daz whitenessESSB::SONEILLThu Aug 15 1991 20:506
    Paul,
    
    Your sister tells you everything...right down to the colour of my
    jocks, sorry socks.
    
    Shane
13.21THE DREAM AND THE REALITY?????UPROAR::SHORESDdavid shoresThu Aug 15 1991 21:5319
    re: fastest goals...
    
    Teddy S. with a screaming shot into the top right hand corner after
    2mins 30 after typical PSYCHO Pearce raid on the left wing and
    intricate passing between Clough and Keane.Football as it should be
    played....
    
    Well I can dream....  8-) 8-)
    
    More realistically.....
    
    
    Alan Smith from a short corner flicked on at the near post for BORING
    BORING ARSENAL v whoever....
    
    8-)
    
    DavidS.
    
13.22another trySTAR::CASSILYFri Aug 16 1991 07:5312
    
    re: .13
    
    hmmmmm......serves me right for moving house...not getting new news.
    
    OK, let's try.....
    
    1. Spurs (Lineker), same as before
    
    2. Arsenal (Smith)
    
    Mike
13.23The first goal - resultKERNEL::WATTERSONI wasn't pushed - I jumpedSun Aug 18 1991 13:0514
    
    
    Well what a pathetic effort - nobody even came close.
    
    The first goal was scored by ALAN SHEARER of SOUTHAMPTON (2 mins
    according to the NOTW).
    
    Joint second were DAVID HURST (SHEFF WED) and BRIAN DEANE (SHEFF UTD)
    (3 mins).
    
    Try again next year.
    
    Paul
    
13.24what happend on SaturdayKERNEL::WATTERSONI wasn't pushed - I jumpedSun Aug 18 1991 13:3270
    
    Arsenal	1-1	QPR		att 38,099
    Merson 90        	Bailey 15
    
    Chelsea	2-2	Wimbledon 	att 22,574
    Elliot 36        	Fashanu 24
    Allon 36		Earle 57
    
    Coventry	0-1	Man City	att 18,013
    			Quinn 16
    
    Liverpool	2-1	Oldham		att 38,481
    Houghton 52		Barrett 8
    Barnes 77
    
    Man Utd	2-0 	Notts Co	att 46,278
    Hughes 39
    Robson 57
    
    Norwich	2-2	Sheff Utd	att 16,380
    Fleck 74,84		Deane 3
    			Hill 73
    
    Nottm For.	2-1	Everton		att 24,422
    Clough 60		Pearce (OG) 37
    Jemson 87
    
    Sheff Wed	2-3	Aston Villa	att 36,749
    Hirst 3		Regis 42
    Wilson 36		Atkinson 51
    			Staunton 85
    
    Southampton	2-3	Tottenham	att 18,581
    Shearer 2		Lineker 40,72
    Hall 74		Durie 70
    
    West Ham	0-0	Luton		att 25,079	
    
    
    The game of the day was at Sheff Wed, where Ron Atkinson, returning to
    the club he'd left during the summer, saw Villa trail 2-0 at one stage
    before fighting back to win with a Steve Staunton goal with five minutes
    left. Arsenal also left it very late before snatching a 90th minute
    equaliser against QPR. Liverpool beat Oldham 2-1, but only after Oldham
    had led from the 8th minute and only a 'breath-taking' save from
    Grobbelaar denied Graeme Sharp a last minute equaliser. Man Utd had a
    comfortable 2-0 over new boys Notts County in front of the biggest
    crowd of the day - thousands more were locked out (obviously the
    thousands of Notts County supporters.... :-)) Neil Warnock is in the
    papers this morning slagging the ref off.
    
    Elsewhere, some other new boys scored on their debuts - Durie for
    Tottenham and both Paul Elliott and Joe Allon for Chelsea, although
    Elliot is being blamed for Wimbledon's first goal in the 2-2 draw.
    Sheff Utd looked to have  equalled their pre-christmas points tally
    last year when the lead 2-0 at Norwich, but two Fleck goals denied
    them. Man City had a useful 1-0 win at Coventry where the
    crowd made it sound like a home game for City - Quinn scored. Everton
    lost to a late Jemson goal at Forest despite dominating for long
    periods.
    
    Outside the first division, League new-comers Barnet were thrashed 7-4
    at home by Crewe and John Aldridge scored twice for Tranmere in the 2-0
    win at Brighton - only the woodwork denied him a hat-trick.
    
    AND the really good news is there were no reports of football violence
    anywhere yesterday.
    
    Paul
        
13.25Eh?RTOEU::TRAYNERWed Sep 11 1991 20:114
   Well the football conference is back...as I understand it we
   have decided to abandon the first 5 weeks of the Championship
   after complaints from the Arse fans......;-)
13.26Results ?ANNECY::ROWLAND_Abring back Bob Hatton !Thu Sep 12 1991 12:583
    
    
    Any matches been played this week ??
13.27Wait until SaturdayUNTADI::NFLETCHERBeardo , Wardo and WazzoThu Sep 12 1991 13:165
    RE:-1
    
    No. International matches instead.
    
    Nigel
13.28Results and Tables ???ANNECY::ROWLAND_Abring back Bob Hatton !Mon Sep 16 1991 16:309
    
    Come on chaps - Monday afternoon and still no league tables ? What's
    going on ?
    
    I know - it's 'cos Luton aren't bottom, isn't it ?????
    
    
    
    Adam.
13.29All The Facts & Figures....AgainPANIC::ANDERSONWarnock's Wheelbarrow in the FirstMon Sep 16 1991 17:52271
    
    A re-cap on the story so far .....
    
    Saturday 17th August : see .24
    
    Crystal Palace v Leeds postponed due to ground not being ready.
    
    Tuesday 20th August :
    
    Everton 3 		Arsenal 1		31,200
    Ward 45,72		Winterburn 87
    Cottee 60 
    
    Leeds 1		Forest 0		29,457
    McAllister 13
    
    Notts County 1	Southampton 0		 9,613
    Yates 38
    
    Sheff Utd 1		West Ham 1		21,463
    Beesley 49		Small 47
    
    Wednesday 21st August :
    
    Aston Villa 0	Man. Utd. 1		39,995
     			Bruce (Pen) 39
    
    Coventry 5		Luton 0			10,084
    Gallacher 7,39
    Rosario 45
    Smith 68
    Furlong 71
    
    Manchester City 2	Liverpool 1		37,322
    White 29,64		McManaman 75
    
    Oldham 3		Chelsea 0		14,997
    Marshall 16
    Holden 41
    Currie 89
    
    QPR 0		Norwich 2		10,726
    			Gordon 29
    			Newman 75
    
    Tottenham v Palace postponed due to ECWC commitments (now Nov 26th)
    Wimbledon v Sheff. Weds postponed due to ground not being ready.
    
    Saturday 24th August :
    
    Aston Villa 3	Arsenal 1		29,684
    Staunton (Pen) 40	Smith 45
    Penrice 53
    Daley 76
    
    Everton 0		Man. Utd. 0		36,085
    
    Leeds 1 		Sheff. Weds. 1		30,260
    Hodge 87		Hirst 48
    
    Luton 0		Liverpool 0		11,132
    
    Man. City 3		 Crystal Palace 2	28,023
    Brennan (Pens) 40,86 Thomas 15
    White 45		 Bright 49
    
    Notts County 0	Nottm. Forest 4		21,044
    			Crosby 55
    			Charles 64
    			Sheringham 69
    			Keane 74
    
    Oldham 2		Norwich 2		13,548
    Marshall 3		Crook 21
    Barrett 24		Newman 49
    
    QPR 1		Coventry 1		 9,393
    Wegerle 69		Gynn 46
    
    Sheff. Utd. 0	Southampton 2		18,029
    			Shearer 44
    			Le Tissier 78
    
    Tottenham 1		Chelsea 3		34,645
    Lineker 54		Dixon 2
    			Wilson 23
    			Townsend 46
    
    Wimbledon 2		West Ham 0            	10,081
    Earle 30
    Fashanu 72
    
    Tuesday 27th August :
    
    Arsenal 2		Luton 0			25,898
    Merson 30
    Smith 50
    
    Cyrstal Palace 3	Wimbledon 2		16,340
    Bright 45		Fashanu 10
    Gray (Pen) 45	Earle 87
    Wright 61
    
    Liverpool 1		QPR 0			32,700
    Saunders 62
    
    Wednesday 28th August :
    
    Chelsea 2		Notts County 2		15,847
    Elliott 54		Johnson 4
    Allon 63		Bartlett 48
    
    Coventry 3		Sheff. Utd. 1		12,601
    Smith (Pen) 8	Bryson 14
    Furlong 28
    Rosario 35
    
    Man. Utd. 1		Oldham 0		42,078
    McClair 85
    
    Norwich 0		Man. City 0		15,376
    
    Nottm. Forest 1	Tottenham 3		24,018
    Clough 10		Lineker 38
    			Durie 67
    			Bergsson 86
    
    Sheff. Weds. 2	Everton 1		28,690
    Wilson 54		Watson 65
    Anderson 87
    
    Southampton 0	Leeds 4			15,862
    			Speed 23,87
    			Strachan (Pens) 56,69
    
    West Ham 3		Aston Villa 1		23,644
    Small 64		Daley 48
    Rosenior 66
    Brown 86
    
    Saturday 31st August :
    
    Arsenal 2		Man. City 1		35,009
    Smith 46		Brightwell 31
    Limpar 77
    
    Chelsea 4		Luton 1			17,457
    Le Saux 20		Gray 47
    Townsend 32
    Dixon 44
    Wise 60
    
    Coventry 0		Wimbledon 1		 9,469
    			Cork 30
    
    Crystal Palace 2	Sheff. Utd. 1		15,507
    Thomas 80		Hodges 53
    Wright 89
    
    Liverpool 3		Everton 1		39,072
    Burrows 1		Newell 78
    Saunders 14
    Houghton 62
    
    Man. Utd. 1		Leeds 1			43,778
    Robson 86		Chapman 7
    
    Norwich 0		Tottenham 1		19,460
    			Lineker 37
    
    Nottm. Forest 3	Oldham 1		23,244
    Gemmill 28		Marshall 50
    Keane 41
    Pearce 63
    
    Sheff. Weds. 4	QPR 1			25,022
    Palmer 6,41,45	Bailey 73
    Sheridan 69
    
    Southampton 1	Aston Villa 1		16,161
    Shearer 33		Richardson 2
    
    West Ham 0		Notts County 2		20,093
    			Bartlett 66,69
    
    Tuesday 3rd September :
    
    Everton 1		Norwich 1		19,197
    Ward 49		Phillips 84
    
    Leeds 2		Arsenal 2		29,396
    Strachan (Pen) 66   Smith 20,48
    Chapman 86
    
    Notts County 2	Sheff. Weds. 1		12,297
    Johnson (Pen) 7, 85	Pearson 25
    
    Oldham 2		Coventry 1		12,996
    Adam 31		Furlong 73
    Henry 63
    
    Sheff. Utd. 0	Chelsea 1		17,400
    			Wise 56
    
    Wimbledon 1		Man. Utd. 2		13,824
    Fashanu 82		Blackmore 25
    			Pallister 44
    
    Wednesday 4th September :
    
    Aston Villa 0	Crystal Palace 1	20,740
    			Wright 3
    
    Luton 2		Southampton 1		 8,055
    Gray 32		Le Tissier (Pen) 30
    Harvey 40
    
    Man. City 2		Nottm. Forest 1		29,146
    Quinn 39		Sheringham 65
    Hill 85
    
    QPR 0		West Ham 0		16,616
    
    Tottenham v Liverpool re-scheduled to Dec 18th due to ECWC commitments
    
    Saturday  7th September :
    
    Arsenal 1		Coventry 2		28,142
    Adams 88		Dixon (og) 1
    			Ndluvo 85
    
    Aston Villa 0	Tottenham 0		33,096
    
    Everton 2		Crystal Palace 2	21,065
    Warzycha 54		Gray (Pen) 34
    Beardsley 60      	Bright 69
    
    Leeds 3		Man. City 0		28,986
    Dorigo 18
    Batty 34
    Strachan (Pen) 79
    
    Man. Utd. 3		Norwich 0		44,946
    Irwin 22
    McClair 23
    Giggs 27
    
    Notts County 1	Liverpool 2		16,051
    Johnson 42		Rosenthal 70
    			Walters (Pen) 88
    
    Oldham 2		Sheff. Utd. 1		15,064
    Snodin 13		Deane 46
    Marshall 32
    
    QPR 2		Southampton 2		 9,237
    Barker 68		Shearer 1
    Thompson 84		Dowie 81
    
    Sheff. Weds. 2	Nottm. Forest 1		31,289
    Williams 19		Crosby 48
    Francis 88
    
    West Ham 1		Chelsea 1		18,875
    Small 49		Dixon 56
    
    Wimbledon 3		Luton 0			 3,231
    Clarke 25
    Ryan 65,76
    
    Rob
13.30Back Up to Date....Table Follows SoonPANIC::ANDERSONWarnock's Wheelbarrow in the FirstMon Sep 16 1991 18:0843
    
    Results & stuff from Saturday 14th September :
    
	Chelsea .......... 0   Leeds United ..........  1	23,439
                               Shutt 61
    
        Coventry City .... 1   Notts County ..........  0       10,685
        Furlong 47
    
        Crystal Palace ... 1   Arsenal ...............  4	24,228
        Bright 85	       Campbell 16,81
    			       Smith 55
    			       Thomas 57
    
        Liverpool ........ 1   Aston Villa ...........  1  	38,400
        Walters (Pen) 39       Richardson 25	
    
        Luton Town ....... 2   Oldham Athletic .......  1        9,005
        Harford 85,89	       Marshall 52	
    
        Manchester City .. 0   Sheffield Wednesday ...  1	29,453
                               Williams 73
    
        Norwich City ..... 2   West Ham United .......  1 	15,348
        Fox 12, Gordon 38      Small 15	
    
        Nottingham Forest  4   Wimbledon .............  2 	19,707
        Keane 11,47	       McGee 2, Fashanu (Pen) 76
    	Black 44 
    	Elkins (og) 62
    
        Sheffield United . 2   Everton ...............  1	19,817
        Hoyland 64             Beardsley 7
    	Bryson 72
    
        Southampton ...... 0   Manchester United .....  1	19,264
                               Hughes 48
    
        Tottenham Hotspur  2   Queen's Park Rangers ..  0       30,059
        Lineker 72,75
    
    Rob (With a little help from VNS)
    
13.31Here's the table....XSTACY::MDUNPHYThe Hit ManMon Sep 16 1991 19:5623
			LEAGUE DIV 1
			------------
1  Manchester_United.... 8   6   2   0   11  2   20    9
2  Leeds_United......... 7   4   3   0   13  4   15    9
3  Liverpool............ 7   4   2   1   10  6   14    4
4  Coventry_City........ 8   4   1   3   13  7   13    6
5  Sheffield_Wednesday.. 7   4   1   2   13  9   13    4
6  Tottenham_Hotspur.... 6   4   1   1   10  6   13    4
7  Manchester_City...... 8   4   1   3   9   10  13   -1
8  Nottingham_Forest.... 8   4   0   4   16  12  12    4
9  Chelsea.............. 8   3   3   2   13  11  12    2
10 Arsenal.............. 8   3   2   3   14  13  11    1
11 Wimbledon............ 7   3   1   3   13  11  10    2
12 Oldham_Athletic...... 8   3   1   4   12  12  10    0
13 Crystal_Palace....... 6   3   1   2   11  12  10   -1
14 Norwich_City......... 8   2   4   2   9   10  10   -1
15 Notts_County......... 8   3   1   4   8   12  10   -4
16 Aston_Villa.......... 8   2   3   3   9   10  9    -1
17 Luton_Town........... 8   2   2   4   5   16  8    -11
18 West_Ham_United...... 8   1   4   3   6   9   7    -3
19 Everton.............. 8   1   3   4   10  13  6    -3
20 Southampton.......... 8   1   2   5   8   14  5    -6
21 Sheffield_United..... 8   1   2   5   8   14  5    -6
13.32FORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's Me in the Corner !!Tue Sep 17 1991 13:386
RE -.1
Have I missed something??? Have QPR really dropped out of the league?? ;-)

Last I saw they were propping up the division. Don't know any stats though.

Al
13.33XSTACY::MDUNPHYThe Hit ManTue Sep 17 1991 15:3729
re -.1
	QPR's omission in the league table was due to a pasting error and not 
their footballing excellence (or was it!!)

Revised edition for those faithful QPR fans...

                         PL  W   D   L   GF  GA  PTS  GD
1  Manchester_United.... 8   6   2   0   11  2   20    9
2  Leeds_United......... 7   4   3   0   13  4   15    9
3  Liverpool............ 7   4   2   1   10  6   14    4
4  Coventry_City........ 8   4   1   3   13  7   13    6
5  Sheffield_Wednesday.. 7   4   1   2   13  9   13    4
6  Tottenham_Hotspur.... 6   4   1   1   10  6   13    4
7  Manchester_City...... 8   4   1   3   9   10  13   -1
8  Nottingham_Forest.... 8   4   0   4   16  12  12    4
9  Chelsea.............. 8   3   3   2   13  11  12    2
10 Arsenal.............. 8   3   2   3   14  13  11    1
11 Wimbledon............ 7   3   1   3   13  11  10    2
12 Oldham_Athletic...... 8   3   1   4   12  12  10    0
13 Crystal_Palace....... 6   3   1   2   11  12  10   -1
14 Norwich_City......... 8   2   4   2   9   10  10   -1
15 Notts_County......... 8   3   1   4   8   12  10   -4
16 Aston_Villa.......... 8   2   3   3   9   10  9    -1
17 Luton_Town........... 8   2   2   4   5   16  8    -11
18 West_Ham_United...... 8   1   4   3   6   9   7    -3
19 Everton.............. 8   1   3   4   10  13  6    -3
20 Southampton.......... 8   1   2   5   8   14  5    -6
21 Sheffield_United..... 8   1   2   5   8   14  5    -6
22 QPR.................. 8   0   4   4   5   13  4    -8  <<<<<<------ 
13.34ARRODS::SWANSONTue Sep 17 1991 23:573
Thanks for the correction.  However it was an understandable mistake, simply
stopping the edit selection once you got to Sheffield United at this time of
season.
13.35league table 17-09-91XSTACY::KMCGRATHWed Sep 18 1991 20:4224
				LEAGUE DIV 1
				------------
                         PL  W   D   L   GF  GA  PTS  GD
1  Manchester_United.... 8   6   2   0   11  2   20    9
2  Leeds_United......... 7   4   3   0   13  4   15    9
3  Liverpool............ 7   4   2   1   10  6   14    4
4  Coventry_City........ 8   4   1   3   13  7   13    6
5  Sheffield_Wednesday.. 7   4   1   2   13  9   13    4
6  Tottenham_Hotspur.... 6   4   1   1   10  6   13    4
7  Notts_County......... 9   4   1   4   11  13  13   -2
8  Manchester_City...... 9   4   1   4   9   11  13   -2
9  Nottingham_Forest.... 8   4   0   4   16  12  12    4
10 Chelsea.............. 8   3   3   2   13  11  12    2
11 Arsenal.............. 8   3   2   3   14  13  11    1
12 Wimbledon............ 7   3   1   3   13  11  10    2
13 Oldham_Athletic...... 8   3   1   4   12  12  10    0
14 Norwich_City......... 8   2   4   2   9   10  10   -1
15 Crystal_Palace....... 7   3   1   3   13  15  10   -2
16 West_Ham_United...... 9   2   4   3   9   11  10   -2
17 Aston_Villa.......... 8   2   3   3   9   10  9    -1
18 Everton.............. 9   2   3   4   11  13  9    -2
19 Luton_Town........... 9   2   2   5   5   17  8    -12
20 QPR.................. 9   1   4   4   6   13  7    -7
21 Southampton.......... 8   1   2   5   8   14  5    -6
13.36Midweek scoresPANIC::ANDERSONWarnock's Wheelbarrow in the FirstFri Sep 20 1991 13:5331
    
    Results from Tuesday 17th September :
    
    Crystal Palace 	2-3	West Ham United		21,363
    Salako 12			Thomas 53
    Wright 61			Morley 57
    				Small 77
    
    Luton Town		0-1	Queens Park Rangers	 9,185
    				Barker 47
    
    Manchester City	0-1	Everton			27,509
    				Beardsley 67
    
    Sheffield United	1-3	Notts County		19,375
    Agana 69			Bartlett 75,77
    				Rideout 81
    
    Results from Wednesday 18th September :
    
    Chelsea		2-0	Aston Villa		17,182
    Jones 22
    Townsend 57
    
    Coventry City	0-0	Leeds United		15,488
    
    Norwich City	1-0	Sheffield Wednesday	12,503
    Fleck (Pen) 24
    
    Southampton 	1-0	Wimbledon		11,280
    Cockerill 50
13.37Latest TablePANIC::ANDERSONWarnock's Wheelbarrow in the FirstFri Sep 20 1991 15:0328
   Division 1 Table as at 20th September 1991 :
			
                         PL  W   D   L   GF  GA  PTS  GD
    
1  Manchester United.... 8   6   2   0   11   2   20   9
2  Leeds United......... 8   4   4   0   13   4   16   9
3  Chelsea.............. 9   4   3   2   15  11   15   4
4  Liverpool............ 7   4   2   1   10   6   14   4
5  Coventry City........ 9   4   2   3   13   7   14   6
6  Tottenham Hotspur.... 6   4   1   1   10   6   13   4
7  Sheffield Wednesday.. 8   4   1   3   13  10   13   3
8  Norwich City......... 9   3   4   2   10  10   13   0
9  Notts County......... 9   4   1   4   11  13   13  -2
10 Manchester City...... 9   4   1   4    9  11   13  -2
11 Nottingham Forest.... 8   4   0   4   16  12   12   4
12 Arsenal.............. 8   3   2   3   14  13   11   1
13 Wimbledon............ 8   3   1   4   13  12   10   1
14 Oldham Athletic...... 8   3   1   4   12  12   10   0
15 Crystal Palace....... 7   3   1   3   13  15   10  -2
16 West Ham United...... 9   2   4   3   9   11   10  -2
17 Everton.............. 9   2   3   4   11  13    9  -2
18 Aston Villa.......... 9   2   3   4   9   12    9  -3  
19 Southampton.......... 9   2   2   5   9   14    8  -5
20 Luton Town........... 9   2   2   5   5   17    8 -12
21 QPR.................. 9   1   4   4   6   13    7  -7
22 Sheffield United..... 9   1   2   6   9   17    5  -8
  
    
13.38League tableXSTACY::MDUNPHYThe Hit ManFri Sep 20 1991 15:0425
				LEAGUE DIV 1
				------------
                         PL  W   D   L   GF  GA  PTS  GD
1  Manchester_United.... 8   6   2   0   11  2   20    9
2  Leeds_United......... 8   4   4   0   13  4   16    9
3  Chelsea.............. 9   4   3   2   15  11  15    4
4  Coventry_City........ 9   4   2   3   13  7   14    6
5  Liverpool............ 7   4   2   1   10  6   14    4
6  Tottenham_Hotspur.... 6   4   1   1   10  6   13    4
7  Sheffield_Wednesday.. 8   4   1   3   13  10  13    3
8  Norwich_City......... 9   3   4   2   10  10  13    0
9  Notts_County......... 9   4   1   4   11  13  13   -2
10 Manchester_City...... 9   4   1   4   9   11  13   -2
11 Nottingham_Forest.... 8   4   0   4   16  12  12    4
12 Arsenal.............. 8   3   2   3   14  13  11    1
13 Wimbledon............ 8   3   1   4   13  12  10    1
14 Oldham_Athletic...... 8   3   1   4   12  12  10    0
15 Crystal_Palace....... 7   3   1   3   13  15  10   -2
16 West_Ham_United...... 9   2   4   3   9   11  10   -2
17 Everton.............. 9   2   3   4   11  13  9    -2
18 Aston_Villa.......... 9   2   3   4   9   12  9    -3
19 Southampton.......... 9   2   2   5   9   14  8    -5
20 Luton_Town........... 9   2   2   5   5   17  8    -12
21 QPR.................. 9   1   4   4   6   13  7    -7
22 Sheffield_United..... 9   1   2   6   9   17  5    -8
13.39All quiet on the Premier front ?BAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th's trouble at t'millTue Sep 24 1991 13:2110
    Peace seems to have broken out on the Premier League front, there will
    be a Premier League of 22 teams next season, 3 up 3 down, and 3 million
    to be paid to the lower clubs by the Premier League clubs. No ground
    specifications have been drawn up yet, but they probably will be later
    on. This season's relegation / promotion to fromm the Premier League
    will be traumatic affairs, especially for relegated clubs (with any
    luck Luton, Wimbledon and QPR) to be replaced with Middlesborough,
    Sunderland and Newcastle (some hope the last 2 !)
    
    jb.
13.40Questions from a distance.ASKFOR::HAIGHHerr Reiner GeschmackssacheTue Sep 24 1991 17:126
    > be a Premier League of 22 teams next season, 3 up 3 down, and 3 million
    
    
    	So what are going to be the big differences? I thought they were
    rtying to push for 16 teams. And why will it be especially bad to get
    relegated this year? 
13.41Less doshBAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th's trouble at t'millTue Sep 24 1991 17:476
    re -1
    
    Getting relegated this year will mean a lot less money for the clubs
    involved.
    
    jb.
13.42GVAADG::BUENOTue Sep 24 1991 17:564
    What is the point of having a Super League with 22 teams? Isn't that
    about four too many?
    
    P
13.43Money Money MoneyBAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th's trouble at t'millTue Sep 24 1991 18:2411
    22 teams = 42 games = MONEY
    
    The whole purpose of the Premier league is money, politicking, money,
    and more money for the bigger clubs. The cake size should increase
    though, ans football will be sold more and more and the TV companies
    will have more and more of a say when and where games are played. The
    traditional Saturday afternoon will become less common, more Sunday
    matches will be played.
    
    jb.
    
13.44ASKFOR::HAIGHHerr Reiner GeschmackssacheTue Sep 24 1991 19:179
    So does this means the FA have gone ahead with their plan, yes? WHat do 
    the football league have to say about it? And why will the relegated clubs
    lose money? Won't they have just the same chance of promotion into the
    Premier league next year? Only one years BIG money lost.
    
    Seriously confused about a few issues here.
    
    
    		Steve
13.45Down and OutBAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th's trouble at t'millTue Sep 24 1991 19:3810
    If they come back up, then it is only 1 year's money lost - but will
    the team still be there ? Can the players be kept on premier League
    salaries in Div whatever ?
    
    Clubs that go down don't always come up, many of them go down again
    (Burnley, Sunderland, Sheff U to name some). Some come up and up, eg
    Grimsby, Southend and Cambridge, Div 4 to Div 2 in 2 seasons at the
    same time ! Cambridge are near the top of Div 2 now.
    
    jb.
13.46GVAADG::BUENOTue Sep 24 1991 19:554
    But didn't the clubs want a Super League precisely so there would be
    less clubs in it?
    
    Peter
13.47Couch Potato TakeoverBAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th's trouble at t'millTue Sep 24 1991 20:1111
    yes and no - it wasn't for the good of the game, more like the greed of
    the few. There is money to be made from football, the big clubs felt
    they weren't getting their 'fair' share. Expect to see more 'Premier
    League' certified products etc etc. Football is no longer the working
    man's sport, it is something else to glitz up, beam to a satellite and
    then to the couch potatoes .....
    
    jb. (who at least has a season ticket at Elland Road and does watch
    some Satellite TV Football)
    
    
13.48TOTH::CHAVESTue Sep 24 1991 21:438
    I'm confused and would appreciate it if someone that knows would take
    the time to explain what all this means. So far I find nothing new
    about this so called premier division. They're taking the first
    division and renaming it premier division. Did I miss something?
    
    JC
    
    
13.49An expat writesR2ME2::HINXMANThere has to be a better wayTue Sep 24 1991 22:3721
	re .48

>    about this so called premier division. They're taking the first
>    division and renaming it premier division. Did I miss something?

	As I understand it, th change is how the MONEY gets divvied up.
	Under the Football League structure, some of the money the big
	clubs take in gets redistributed to the poorer clubs (like
	welfare payments :-)). Under the new scheme the Premier Division
	clubs will get to keep all the revenue themselves (a sort of
	soccer Reaganomics :-)).

	And, I think it was you that was asking:

	Most English soccer takes place at 15.00 local time on a Saturday
	afternoon. So if you are in North America's Eastern time zone,
	you need to point your dish at the satellite at 10.00 local time,
	except for the weeks when one side of the Atlantic is on daylight
	saving time and the other isn't.

	Tony
13.51What's the point ?ANNECY::ROWLAND_Abring back Bob Hatton !Wed Sep 25 1991 12:307
    
    
    So this all means that one of the great (only?) virtues of a super
    league - ie less games for our top players, and therefore a better
    chance for our national sides - goes straight out the window ???
    
    Adam.
13.52Suicidal TendencyPANIC::ANDERSONWarnock's Wheelbarrow in the FirstWed Sep 25 1991 12:3412
    Re .50
    
    It *ENDS* clubs affiliation to the Football league. This week the 3
    year rule was voted out.
    
    Re .others
    
    The original plan was to reduce from 22 to 18 over two or three years,
    and thus promotion from the Football League would be more difficult -
    only one up per year. Has this now changed ?
    
    Rob
13.53??TOTH::CHAVESWed Sep 25 1991 23:1330
    Not being familiar with the details I suppose I shouldn't crtiticize.
    One comment, however:
    
    I hope those individuals responsible for the fine print that will
    dictate/control the distribution of funds have studied closely examples
    in other countries, namely professional sports in the US. At one point
    the NBA operated under the same basic principal as the new premier
    league: He who makes the money keeps it. After a while a few teams were
    rich and most were bankrupt. As a result, fan appeal hit bottom and TV
    audiences and gate receipts declined, except for games where the few
    top teams were playing each other. This lead to reduced revenues for
    all teams, including the rich. The NBA has since changed the way money
    is distributed and with the traditionally poor clubs being competitive
    TV ratings went up, ditto for gates receipts, and with it increased 
    revenues for all. The point here is that a league, any league, where
    the few get the most will eventually ruin all. At the stadium or on the
    couch, fans (consumers) will decide if the premier league will survive.
    
    I can't see most of the English teams being able to compete with the
    likes of Looneypoll, Mancs, Arsenal, Leeds, etc. Will fans in Lutton
    and Liverpool fill the park and the remaining stay room watching 
    Looneypooltrash Lutton? Probably. Will I and others all over the world? 
    probably not. Want my money?  Sell me a goog product and I'll buy it. If 
    not, I'll wait for the big games or those where my team (the Mancs, 
    of course) are involved.
    
    Anyway, If this new league means I'll have better football on the tube
    I'm all for it. I just hope they don't screw it up.
    
    JC
13.54Is this a first? At Wimbledon!SAC::MAGUIRE_GThu Sep 26 1991 15:1911
    
    On a slightly lighter note has anyone ever heard of the away fans
    sponsoring the match ball.
    
    On December 7th Oldham are playing Wimbledon at Selhurst Park and
    O.A.S.I.S (Oldham Athletic supporters In the South) are sponsoring the
    match-ball. Some of the supporters think this may be a first at a First
    Division game. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
    
    Gerry.
    
13.55ASKFOR::HAIGHHerr Reiner GeschmackssacheThu Sep 26 1991 15:392
    	Maybe the Wombles can't afford to buy their own ball. Even getting
    2.5M for Curle can't cover to many 2000 gates.
13.56Load of Balls.FRAMBO::BRADLEYJa, das Bier-gut istFri Sep 27 1991 15:235
You'll need to sponsor more than one ball with Wimbledon - first one usually
gets substituted at half time suffering from stress fractures. ;-)

Bob
13.57What's the score then ?....ANNECY::ROWLAND_Aa slip of the tongueMon Sep 30 1991 12:237
    
    Can someone post up Sat's results, perhaps tables too, for us ex-pats ?
    
    Cheers,
    
    Adam.
    
13.58Just for you then Adam....TRUCKS::SANTMon Sep 30 1991 13:0653
    
    	Chelsea		2 - 2		Everton
    	Wilson 50			Ebbrell 31
    	Wise 75				Beardsley 86      	19,038
    
    	Coventry	1 - 0		Aston Villa
    	Ndlovu 40						17,851
    
    	Crystal Palace  2 - 2		QPR
    	Bright 81			Barker 5
    	Collymore 83			Wegerle 58 (pen)	15,372
    
    	Liverpool	1 - 1		Sheff. Wed.
    	Houghton 17			Harkes 68		37,071
    
    	Luton Town	1 - 1 		Notts. County
    	Gray 69				Johnson 88 (pen)	7,629
    
    	Manchester City 1 - 2 		Oldham Ath.
    	White 19			Sharpe 55,64		31,271
    
    	Norwich City	2 - 2		Leeds Utd.
    	Gordon 58,74			Dorigo 62
    					Speed 72		15,838
    
    	Nottm Forest	2 - 2		West Ham Utd.
    	Woan 4				Small 17,44 (pen)
    	Sherringham 77						25,613
    
    	Sheff. Utd.	0 - 0		Wimbledon		16,062
    
    	Southampton	0 - 4		Arsenal
    					Rocastle 39
    					Wright 48,53,75		18,050
    
    	Tottenham H.	1 - 2		Manchester United
    	Durie 39			Hughes 21
    					Robson 86		35,087
    
    	Top now looks like this....
    
                         P  Pts.  GD
    	Man Utd		10  26    +15
    	Leeds		10  20    +10
    	Arsenal		10  17     +8
    	Sheff. W.	10  17     +5
    	Chelsea		11  17     +4
    	Coventry	11  17     +4
    	Spurs		 8  16     +5
    	Man. City	11  16     -2
    
    
    	Andy.
13.59Such kindness ...ANNECY::ROWLAND_Aa slip of the tongueMon Sep 30 1991 13:1610
    
    Ahhhh, that's better. It's a reet pain going through all the
    continental scores before someone finally gets around to putting
    up the "important" ones !! I'll just sit back and await the european
    outcry for that one..
    
    
    Adam.
    
    
13.60results...XSTACY::MDUNPHYThe Hit ManWed Oct 02 1991 11:186
can someone tell me what the score was between wed. Vs southampton (21/9/91)
I need it for the league table. I entered a reply in the wed topic but got no 
reply.


Mick.
13.61Busy Busy BusyPANIC::ANDERSONWarnock's Wheelbarrow in the FirstWed Oct 02 1991 11:405
    Wednesday 2	Southampton 0
    Williams 4
    Worthington 65
    
    27,291
13.62Hereeeee's The TableeeeeeeeXSTACY::MDUNPHYThe Hit ManWed Oct 02 1991 15:2926
If there are any mistakes please let me know (but i'm sure you will!!!)
				League Div 1
				------------
                         PL  W   D   L   GF  GA  PTS  GD
1  Manchester_United.... 10  8   2   0   18  3   26   15
2  Leeds_United......... 11  5   5   1   16  7   20    9
3  Arsenal.............. 10  5   2   3   23  15  17    8
4  Sheffield_Wednesday.. 10  5   2   3   16  11  17    5
5  Chelsea.............. 11  4   5   2   19  15  17    4
6  Coventry_City........ 11  5   2   4   14  10  17    4
7  Crystal_Palace....... 10  5   2   3   19  19  17    0
8  Tottenham_Hotspur.... 8   5   1   2   16  11  16    5
9  Manchester_City...... 11  5   1   5   12  14  16   -2
10 Liverpool............ 9   4   3   2   11  8   15    3
11 Norwich_City......... 11  3   6   2   14  14  15    0
12 Notts_County......... 11  4   3   4   14  16  15   -2
13 Nottingham_Forest.... 10  4   1   5   19  17  13    2
14 Everton.............. 11  3   4   4   16  15  13    1
15 Oldham_Athletic...... 10  4   1   5   16  16  13    0
16 Aston_Villa.......... 11  3   3   5   12  14  12   -2
17 Wimbledon............ 10  3   2   5   16  17  11   -1
18 West_Ham_United...... 11  2   5   4   12  15  11   -3
19 QPR.................. 11  1   6   4   10  17  9    -7
20 Luton_Town........... 11  2   3   6   6   23  9    -17
21 Southampton.......... 11  2   2   7   9   20  8    -11
22 Sheffield_United..... 11  1   3   7   11  22  6    -11
13.63(-: (-:ESSB::BLONGThe Scousers Trophy Cabinet is EmptyWed Oct 02 1991 15:425
13.64The Table... 3/10/91XSTACY::MDUNPHYThe Hit ManThu Oct 03 1991 10:5525
				League Div 1
				------------
                         PL  W   D   L   GF  GA  PTS  GD
1  Manchester_United.... 10  8   2   0   18  3   26   15
2  Leeds_United......... 11  5   5   1   16  7   20    9
3  Arsenal.............. 10  5   2   3   23  15  17    8
4  Chelsea.............. 11  4   5   2   19  15  17    4
5  Sheffield_Wednesday.. 11  5   2   4   17  13  17    4
6  Coventry_City........ 11  5   2   4   14  10  17    4
7  Crystal_Palace....... 10  5   2   3   19  19  17    0
8  Tottenham_Hotspur.... 8   5   1   2   16  11  16    5
9  Manchester_City...... 11  5   1   5   12  14  16   -2
10 Liverpool............ 9   4   3   2   11  8   15    3
11 Norwich_City......... 11  3   6   2   14  14  15    0
12 Notts_County......... 11  4   3   4   14  16  15   -2
13 Wimbledon............ 11  4   2   5   18  18  14    0
14 Nottingham_Forest.... 10  4   1   5   19  17  13    2
15 Everton.............. 11  3   4   4   16  15  13    1
16 Oldham_Athletic...... 10  4   1   5   16  16  13    0
17 Aston_Villa.......... 11  3   3   5   12  14  12   -2
18 West_Ham_United...... 11  2   5   4   12  15  11   -3
19 QPR.................. 11  1   6   4   10  17  9    -7
20 Luton_Town........... 11  2   3   6   6   23  9    -17
21 Southampton.......... 11  2   2   7   9   20  8    -11
22 Sheffield_United..... 11  1   3   7   11  22  6    -11
13.65some geograp. infoVARESE::BIOTTIThu Oct 03 1991 17:512
     
    Which teams in Div 1 and 2 are from London? 
13.661st Div.CRISPY::TRINDERSThu Oct 03 1991 18:0514
13.67At a guessBAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th's trouble at t'millThu Oct 03 1991 18:0920
    
    1st (3 too many)
    Arsenal
    Tottenham
    Chelsea
    QPR
    Wimbledon
    Crystal Palace
    West Ham
    
    2nd (3 too few)
    Millwall
    Charlton
    
    3rd/ 4th
    Orient
    Barnet
    Fulham
    
    jb.
13.68supportersVARESE::BIOTTIThu Oct 03 1991 18:175
    
    Can you list them by estimated supporters number ?
    
    And another question..  where is Notts_County from?
    
13.69FRom Div 1XSTACY::MDUNPHYThe Hit ManThu Oct 03 1991 18:278
Arsenal
Chelsea
Crystal Palace
Tottenham Hotspur
Wimbledon
West Ham United
QPR
Luton Town
13.70Crowd EstimatesBAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th's trouble at t'millThu Oct 03 1991 18:4416
    re -1
    
    Luton is not in London, its 40 miles or so North.
    
    Crowds (approx home averages, may be a bit out)
    
    Arsenal 32,000
    Tottenham 28,000
    Chelsea 21,000
    QPR 15,000
    West Ham 20,000
    Wimbledon 3,500 (yes, three thousand five hundred)
    Palace 19,000
    
    jb.
    
13.71thanksVARESE::BIOTTIThu Oct 03 1991 18:545
    
    How can Wimbledon survive in the Div 1 ??
    
    ..and I re-ask .. where is Notts_County from?
    
13.72Wot abaaht Brentford.KURMA::ISUTHERLANDGo to FalkirkThu Oct 03 1991 18:551
    
13.73Notts County WomblesBAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th's trouble at t'millThu Oct 03 1991 19:137
    Notts County are from Nottingham.
    
    I wonder about Wimbledon as well. Their gates this season are much
    lower, as they are sharing a ground with Crystal Palace, and their
    loyal fans are having to travel 10 miles or so extra ....
    
    jb.
13.74In case you wanted to know.ARRODS::SWANSONThu Oct 03 1991 20:258
last night Wimbledon played Sheffield Wednesday at "home" and recorded the 
lowest post war first division gate, just above the 3,000 mark, mind you 
playing the likes of the Owls, allowances have to be made.

Yes Brentford are in London, and Luton are not (thought they are covered by
Capital Gold sport).

Notts County - Never heard of 'em (sounds like an American Soap Opera)
13.75Give me one good reason.....GEMVAX::HILLThu Oct 03 1991 22:3314
    Notts County share the same ground as Nottingham Forest, I think.
    
    What's the big deal among Wombles supporters about going to Palace's 
    ground 10 miles away, or was that a wind-up? After all, with the exciting, 
    heart-stopping brand of footie played by Wimbledon, their loyal entourage 
    of supporters would normally travel the length of the country for a game. 
    But if the game is on Saturday I can't go because A) that's my mother-in-
    law's birthday, B) have to do yard work, C) kids' youth soccer game, D) 
    friends visiting from out of town, E) have to fix the kitchen sink, 
    F) it's raining, G) it's NOT raining (too nice of a day), H) Anything 
    else you can think of, I) any reason you CAN'T think of, or J) All of 
    the above.
    
    Tom
13.76R2ME2::HINXMANThere has to be a better wayThu Oct 03 1991 23:4920
	re .75

>     Notts County share the same ground as Nottingham Forest, I think.

	No, they don't.
	Notts County play at Meadow Lane
	Nottingham Forest play at Trent Bridge

>    What's the big deal among Wombles supporters about going to Palace's 
>    ground 10 miles away, or was that a wind-up? After all, with the exciting, 

	I see you are noting from a node in the U.S., so you may be unaware
	that most British soccer fans travel to see their local team by foot
	or public transport.

	Conversely, using public transport to leave an L.A. Kings ice
	hockey game, I was surprised to find that more people from the
	local XXX cinema than from the forum boarded the bus.

	Tony
13.77PANIC::ANDERSONThe Pies have arrivedFri Oct 04 1991 11:2517
>>       <<< Note 13.76 by R2ME2::HINXMAN "There has to be a better way" >>>

>>	re .75
    
>>  >     Notts County share the same ground as Nottingham Forest, I think.

>>	No, they don't.
>>	Notts County play at Meadow Lane
>>	Nottingham Forest play at Trent Bridge
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    
    No they don't - Nottinghamshire County Cricket Club play at Trent
    Bridge. Forest play at The City Ground (about 100 yards from Trent
    Bridge, and 300 from Meadow Lane)
    
    Rob
     
13.78a bit outSIOG::SPENCERPeter SpencerFri Oct 04 1991 11:346
    re .70
    
    >    Crowds (approx home averages, may be a bit out)
    >    Arsenal 32,000
    
    Just for accuracy, make that 37000.
13.79ARRODS::OHAGANBPele Utd BrothersFri Oct 04 1991 14:358
    ...and 29,000 next season at the Arsenal. Basically, don't turn up
    unless you fancy a long wait to get in. The touts will have a field 
    day.
    
    Barry.
    
    p.s. Peter, sure that 37,000 is'nt the figure for last season?
                             
13.80Supporting distant teamsGEMVAX::HILLFri Oct 04 1991 16:2726
    I guess I was wrong about Notts Co./Forest. 
    
    I realize you can't compare supporters' habits to US sports where 
    everything is based on the car. I used to regularly go to Anderlecht 
    games on the tram, and just about all the fans took public transport. 
    As for the ground share with Palace, since they are both in the greater 
    London area, is having to take a different tube line or bus going to 
    have that much of an impact on overall attendance? Also, are most of 
    the fans generally from the neighbourhood where the pitch is? Maybe 
    some regular Wombles supporters might actually live more conveniently 
    to Palace's ground. I always got the impression that fans from everywhere 
    often support a distant team for any number of reasons. I had freinds in 
    Belgium who would travel clear cross country (yeah, it IS a small country) 
    from Antwerpen, Chaleroi and Liege to attend Anderlecht home matches in 
    Brussels. Even in this conference we have people who follow far away
    teams, and might only see them in the flesh a few times per year.
    Everton has a big London-based supporters club. I don't know how often
    they make it to Goodison, but they go to all the away games in the
    South and London area. 
    
    The point I was making was that attendance is low because the team is 
    boring, and that if the team played exciting football the fans would
    be convinced it was worth the extra effort to make the trip. I guess I 
    should have put a :-) in there so as not to offend anyone.
    
    Tom                                         
13.81League Table 7/10/91XSTACY::MDUNPHYThe Hit ManMon Oct 07 1991 12:2925
				League Div 1
				------------
                         PL  W   D   L   GF  GA  PTS  GD
1  Manchester_United.... 11  8   3   0   18  3   27   15
2  Leeds_United......... 12  6   5   1   20  10  23   10
3  Arsenal.............. 11  6   2   3   26  17  20    9
4  Sheffield_Wednesday.. 12  6   2   4   21  14  20    7
5  Coventry_City........ 12  6   2   4   15  10  20    5
6  Manchester_City...... 12  6   1   5   15  15  19    0
7  Chelsea.............. 12  4   5   3   21  18  17    3
8  Wimbledon............ 12  5   2   5   21  19  17    2
9  Crystal_Palace....... 11  5   2   4   20  23  17   -3
10 Nottingham_Forest.... 11  5   1   5   21  17  16    4
11 Everton.............. 12  4   4   4   19  16  16    3
12 Tottenham_Hotspur.... 9   5   1   3   17  14  16    3
13 Liverpool............ 10  4   4   2   11  8   16    3
14 Aston_Villa.......... 12  4   3   5   16  14  15    2
15 Norwich_City......... 12  3   6   3   15  17  15   -2
16 Notts_County......... 12  4   3   5   15  19  15   -4
17 Oldham_Athletic...... 11  4   2   5   17  17  14    0
18 West_Ham_United...... 12  2   5   5   12  16  11   -4
19 QPR.................. 12  1   6   5   10  19  9    -9
20 Southampton.......... 12  2   3   7   10  21  9    -11
21 Luton_Town........... 12  2   3   7   6   27  9    -21
22 Sheffield_United..... 12  1   3   8   14  26  6    -12
13.82Scores From 5/6th OctFORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's Me in the Corner !!Mon Oct 07 1991 13:0515
Arsenal               3  -  2  Chelsea             
Aston Villa           4  -  0  Luton Town          
Everton               3  -  1  Tottenham Hotspur   
Leeds Utd             4  -  3  Sheffield Utd       
Man Utd               0  -  0  Liverpool           
Notts County          1  -  3  Man City            
Oldham Athletic       1  -  1  Southampton         
QPR                   0  -  2  Nottingham For      
Sheffield Wed.        4  -  1  Crystal Palace      
West Ham Utd          0  -  1  Coventry City       
Wimbledon             3  -  1  Norwich City        



	Al
13.83Sensible Fixtures ?BAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th's trouble at t'millTue Oct 22 1991 16:3211
    Looking at 2 of this weekends' fixtures, I note that Sheff U are at man
    City, and Man U at Sheff Wed - pretty bright Football League, easy to
    keep rival fans apart - especially when they are travelling on the same
    road - they are bound to meet up in pubs along the way. (By the way,
    there is no direct Motorway between Manchester and Sheffield, there was
    a good direct Elactrified Railway, but the Tories closed that down 10
    years ago).
    
    Other sensible fixtures are Leeds United vs Southampton on Boxing Day.
    
    jb.
13.84I agreeKERNEL::WATTERSONTue Oct 22 1991 16:5515
    re .83
    
    The computer obviously blew a fuse........
    
    Everton play Liverpool at Goodison between Xmas and New Year, that
    fixture's always a sell-out, so why didn't the League match them against
    Luton or Wimbledon ? - games at that time of year always get big(ish)
    crowds at Goodison.
    
    Talking about Southampton - Everton play there on New Year's day, a
    nice easy 250+ mile trip - can't see too many making the journey.
    
    Bring on the super-league.
    
    Paul
13.85ASKFOR::HAIGHHerr Reiner GeschmackssacheTue Oct 22 1991 18:2811
    There's still a rail link between Sheff and Manchester isn't there?
    
    There are actually 3 roads that connect the Cities and they end up in
    different places. Most of the United fans will probably go over the
    Woodhead pass as it comes out right next to Hillsborough. The Sheff
    United fans will come over the snake, as it comes out in Stockport
    nearer to Maine Road. However in principle I agree, same happened last
    week with Spurs v City and United v Arsenal.
    
    
    		Steve
13.86Sheff - Manchester RoutesBAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th's trouble at t'millTue Oct 22 1991 18:437
    There is the Hope Valley line still open, but the roads are twisty
    and go through towns and villages, hence pubs hence drink etc etc.
    
    The FL are hopeless whwn it comes to organising fixtures and running
    the game, I hope the Super league will be better - or will it ?
    
    jb.
13.87League Table as at 23/10/91.. Let me know if anything is wrongXSTACY::MDUNPHYThe Hit ManWed Oct 23 1991 17:5725
			LEAGUE DIV 1
			------------
                         PL  W   D   L   GF  GA  PTS  GD
1  Manchester_United.... 12  8   4   0   19  4   28   15
2  Leeds_United......... 13  7   5   1   24  12  26   12
3  Manchester_City...... 13  7   1   5   16  15  22    1
4  Arsenal.............. 12  6   3   3   27  18  21    9
5  Sheffield_Wednesday.. 13  6   3   4   23  16  21    7
6  Coventry_City........ 13  6   2   5   16  12  20    4
7  Crystal_Palace....... 12  6   2   4   22  24  20   -2
8  Aston_Villa.......... 13  5   3   5   18  14  18    4
9  Chelsea.............. 13  4   6   3   23  20  18    3
10 Liverpool............ 11  4   5   2   13  10  17    3
11 Wimbledon............ 13  5   2   6   21  20  17    1
12 Nottingham_Forest.... 12  5   1   6   23  21  16    2
13 Tottenham_Hotspur.... 10  5   1   4   17  15  16    2
14 Everton.............. 13  4   4   5   19  18  16    1
15 Oldham_Athletic...... 12  4   3   5   19  19  15    0
16 Norwich_City......... 12  3   6   3   15  17  15   -2
17 Notts_County......... 13  4   3   6   17  23  15   -6
18 West_Ham_United...... 13  2   6   5   14  18  12   -4
19 QPR.................. 13  2   6   5   11  19  12   -8
20 Luton_Town........... 13  2   4   7   8   29  10   -21
21 Sheffield_United..... 13  2   3   8   18  28  9    -10
22 Southampton.......... 12  2   3   7   10  21  9    -11
13.88Anyone know??KERNEL::MORIARTYWed Oct 23 1991 18:145
    	Just out of interest,when was the last time anyone saw Leeds,
    Man Utd. & Arsenal taking the top 3 places in the First Division with
    Liverpool nowhere in sight??
    
    Kevin
13.89Not yet anyhow ;-)CARDHU::MURRAYDigital has it. Well sort ofWed Oct 23 1991 18:347
    
    
    >>  -< League Table as at 23/10/91..  Let me know if anything is wrong >-
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    
    Luton aren't bottom :-((((((
13.90They won't stay up on goal difference!AIMTEC::WICKS_Awot about them Braves then?Wed Oct 23 1991 19:0713
    Re .89,
    
    But look at that goal difference!! -21 there's stilll hope.
    
    they must have a scottish goalkeeper (:==:)
    
    Anyone know what the record (worst) goal difference is for a Division 1
    team - come on someone must have a Rothmans year book handy.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
                   
13.91WARNUT::PICKERINGSSimon PickeringWed Oct 23 1991 19:429
    Re .83
    
    I can't really see what's wrong with the Sheffield club's fixture this
    weekend; violence between rival fans does seem to be dying out.
    
    As for not having local derbies on bank holidays etc, this is the great
    police strategy to ensure fans have to travel a long way on such days,
    and so probably won't bother; after all public transport is
    non-existent on public holidays.
13.92Scores and updated table from 19/10/91FORTY2::ROBERTSONI brake for coffee!!Thu Oct 24 1991 18:2845
Here are the scores from last weekend.

I've also included the updated table as the one in .87 missed the Southampton -
Norwich game

       Chelsea            2  -  2    Liverpool          
       Coventry City      1  -  2    Crystal Palace     
       Everton            0  -  2    Aston Villa        
       Luton Town         2  -  2    Sheffield Wed.     
       Man Utd.           1  -  1    Arsenal            
       Notts County       2  -  4    Leeds Utd.         
       Oldham Athletic    2  -  2    West Ham Utd.      
       Sheffield Utd.     4  -  2    Nottingham For     
       Southampton        0  -  0    Norwich City       
       Tottenham Hotspur  0  -  1    Man City           
       Wimbledon          0  -  1    QPR                


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD  PtA

   1 Man Utd.                 12    8    4    0   19    4   28   15    8 
   2 Leeds Utd.               13    7    5    1   24   12   26   12   13 
   3 Man City                 13    7    1    5   16   15   22    1   17 
   4 Arsenal                  12    6    3    3   27   18   21    9   15 
   5 Sheffield Wed.           13    6    3    4   23   16   21    7   18 
   6 Coventry City            13    6    2    5   16   12   20    4   19 
   7 Crystal Palace           12    6    2    4   22   24   20   -2   16 
   8 Aston Villa              13    5    3    5   18   14   18    4   21 
   9 Chelsea                  13    4    6    3   23   20   18    3   21 
  10 Liverpool                11    4    5    2   13   10   17    3   16 
  11 Wimbledon                13    5    2    6   21   20   17    1   22 
  12 Nottingham For           12    5    1    6   23   21   16    2   20 
  13 Tottenham Hotspur        10    5    1    4   17   15   16    2   14 
  14 Everton                  13    4    4    5   19   18   16    1   23 
  15 Norwich City             13    3    7    3   15   17   16   -2   23 
  16 Oldham Athletic          12    4    3    5   19   19   15    0   21 
  17 Notts County             13    4    3    6   17   23   15   -6   24 
  18 West Ham Utd.            13    2    6    5   14   18   12   -4   27 
  19 QPR                      13    2    6    5   11   20   12   -9   27 
  20 Southampton              13    2    4    7   10   21   10  -11   29 
  21 Luton Town               13    2    4    7    8   29   10  -21   29 
  22 Sheffield Utd.           13    2    3    8   18   28    9  -10   30 


	Al
13.93ANNECY::ROWLAND_Aa slip of the tongueMon Oct 28 1991 11:555
    
    Missed the footy results on the telly yesterday. What happened this
    weekend then ?
    
    Adam.
13.94Leeds go top BAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th's trouble at t'millMon Oct 28 1991 12:194
    Leeds depose the Mancs at the top of Div 1, Man C are 3rd, the Arse
    4th, Sheff Wed 3rd.
    
    jb.
13.95Results & Table 25/10/91FORTY2::ROBERTSONI brake for coffee!!Mon Oct 28 1991 12:4839
       Arsenal            2  -  0    Notts County       
       Aston Villa        2  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Crystal Palace     0  -  0    Chelsea            
       Leeds Utd.         1  -  0    Oldham Athletic    
       Man City           3  -  2    Sheffield Utd.     
       Norwich City       1  -  0    Luton Town         
       Nottingham For     1  -  3    Southampton        
       QPR                3  -  1    Everton            
       Sheffield Wed.     3  -  2    Man Utd.           
       West Ham Utd.      2  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Liverpool          1  -  0    Coventry City                 

    Table follows
    

        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Leeds Utd.               14    8    5    1   25   12   29   13
   2 Man Utd.                 13    8    4    1   21    7   28   14
   3 Man City                 14    8    1    5   19   17   25    2
   4 Arsenal                  13    7    3    3   29   18   24   11
   5 Sheffield Wed.           14    7    3    4   26   18   24    8
   6 Aston Villa              14    6    3    5   20   15   21    5
   7 Crystal Palace           13    6    3    4   22   24   21   -2
   8 Liverpool                12    5    5    2   14   10   20    4
   9 Coventry City            14    6    2    6   16   13   20    3
  10 Chelsea                  14    4    7    3   23   20   19    3
  11 Norwich City             14    4    7    3   16   17   19   -1
  12 Wimbledon                14    5    2    7   22   22   17    0
  13 Tottenham Hotspur        11    5    1    5   18   17   16    1
  14 Nottingham For           13    5    1    7   24   24   16    0
  15 Everton                  14    4    4    6   20   21   16   -1
  16 Oldham Athletic          13    4    3    6   19   20   15   -1
  17 West Ham Utd.            14    3    6    5   16   19   15   -3
  18 QPR                      14    3    6    5   14   21   15   -7
  19 Notts County             14    4    3    7   17   25   15   -8
  20 Southampton              14    3    4    7   13   22   13   -9
  21 Luton Town               14    2    4    8    8   30   10  -22
  22 Sheffield Utd.           14    2    3    9   20   31    9  -11
13.96More StatsARRODS::SWANSONMon Oct 28 1991 16:4335
Top League Scorers

Division 1

1.  Lineker (Spurs) 13
2=. Bright (Palace) 10
2=. Wright (Arsenal) 10
4.  Small (West Ham) 9
5=. Fashanu (Wimbledon) 8
5=. Smith (Arsenal) 8
7.  Beardsley (Everton) 7
8=  McClair (Man Utd) 6
8=  Shearer(Southampton) 6

Division 2

1.  Shearer (Swindon) 10
2.  Speedie (Blackburn) 8
3=. Wilkinson (M'boro) 7
3=. Bull (Wolves) 7
5=. White (Swindon) 6
5=. Dublin (Cambeidge) 6
5=. ALDO (Tranmere) 6   -   Shome mistake surely !!
8=. Peacock (Newcastle) 5
8=. Quinn (Newcastle) 5
8=. Foyle (Port Vale) 5
8=. Steel (Tranmere) 5

Division 3

1. Biggins (Stoke) 12

Division 4

1. Bull (Barnet) 12
13.97BLKPUD::WATTERSONPDances with WilderbeastsSun Nov 03 1991 12:4639
    
    yesterday's results
    
    Arsenal	0-1	West Ham	33,539
                        Small
    
    Coventry	0-1	Chelsea		11,343
    			Le Saux
    
    Liverpool	1-2	Crystal Palace	34,231
    Hysen		Gabbiadini
    			Thomas
    
    Luton	0-1	Everton		8,022
    			Warzycha
    
    Man Utd	2-0	Sheff Utd	42,942
    Hoyland (OG)
    Kanchelskis
    
    Norwich	0-0	Nottm Forest	13,014
    
    Notts Co	2-0	Oldham		7,634
    Rideout
    Johnson
    
    QPR		0-1	Aston Villa	10,462
    			Yorke
    
    Sheff Wed	0-0	Tottenham	31,573
    
    Southampton	0-3	Man City	13,933
      			Quinn
    			Sheron
    			Gittens (OG)
    
    Wimbledon	0-0	Leeds		7,025
    
    
13.98The Table....XSTACY::MDUNPHYThe Hit ManMon Nov 04 1991 12:3925
			LEAGUE DIV 1
			------------
                         PL  W   D   L   GF  GA  PTS  GD
1  Manchester_United.... 14  9   4   1   23  7   31   16
2  Leeds_United......... 15  8   6   1   25  12  30   13
3  Manchester_City...... 15  9   1   5   22  17  28    5
4  Sheffield_Wednesday.. 15  7   4   4   26  18  25    8
5  Arsenal.............. 14  7   3   4   29  19  24   10
6  Aston_Villa.......... 15  7   3   5   21  15  24    6
7  Crystal_Palace....... 14  7   3   4   24  25  24   -1
8  Chelsea.............. 15  5   7   3   24  20  22    4
9  Liverpool............ 13  5   5   3   15  12  20    3
10 Coventry_City........ 15  6   2   7   16  14  20    2
11 Norwich_City......... 15  4   8   3   16  17  20   -1
12 Everton.............. 15  5   4   6   21  21  19    0
13 Wimbledon............ 15  5   3   7   22  22  18    0
14 West_Ham_United...... 15  4   6   5   17  19  18   -2
15 Notts_County......... 15  5   3   7   19  25  18   -6
16 Tottenham_Hotspur.... 12  5   2   5   18  17  17    1
17 Nottingham_Forest.... 14  5   2   7   24  24  17    0
18 Oldham_Athletic...... 14  4   3   7   19  22  15   -3
19 QPR.................. 15  3   6   6   14  21  15   -7
20 Southampton.......... 15  3   4   8   13  25  13   -12
21 Luton_Town........... 15  2   4   9   8   31  10   -23
22 Sheffield_United..... 15  2   3   10  20  33  9    -13
13.99titleCASEE::CIOTMon Nov 04 1991 15:2910
    Can the author or the moderator change the base note title to :
    
    England League 91/92
    
    This will make it easier to retreive the note with a dir/tit and will
    make it "standart to the other notes.
    
    Thanks, Thierry.
    
    PS: forwarded to author.
13.100Luton finally where they belong!!!FORTY2::ROBERTSONI brake for coffee!!Mon Nov 18 1991 12:5451
From memory, Please indicate any errors:
    
    Al
    
    
    Barclays League Division 1 , Sat 16 Nov 1991
    
       Aston Villa        1  -  0    Notts County       
       Chelsea            0  -  3    Norwich City       
       Crystal Palace     2  -  0    Southampton        
       Everton            2  -  0    Wimbledon          
       Leeds Utd.         2  -  0    QPR                
       Man City           0  -  0    Man Utd.           
       Nottingham For     1  -  0    Coventry City      
       Oldham Athletic    1  -  1    Arsenal            
       Tottenham Hotspur  4  -  1    Luton Town         
    
    Barclays League Division 1 , Sun 17 Nov 1991
    
       Sheffield Utd.     2  -  0    Sheffield Wed.     
       West Ham Utd.      0  -  0    Liverpool          





        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Leeds Utd.               16    9    6    1   27   12   33   15 
   2 Man Utd.                 15    9    5    1   23    7   32   16 
   3 Man City                 16    9    2    5   22   17   29    5 
   4 Aston Villa              16    8    3    5   22   15   27    7 
   5 Crystal Palace           15    8    3    4   26   25   27    1 
   6 Arsenal                  15    7    4    4   30   20   25   10 
   7 Sheffield Wed.           16    7    4    5   26   20   25    6 
   8 Norwich City             16    5    8    3   19   17   23    2 
   9 Everton                  16    6    4    6   23   21   22    2 
  10 Chelsea                  16    5    7    4   24   23   22    1 
  11 Liverpool                14    5    6    3   15   12   21    3 
  12 Tottenham Hotspur        13    6    2    5   22   18   20    4 
  13 Nottingham For           15    6    2    7   25   24   20    1 
  14 Coventry City            16    6    2    8   16   15   20    1 
  15 West Ham Utd.            16    4    7    5   17   19   19   -2 
  16 Wimbledon                16    5    3    8   22   24   18   -2 
  17 Notts County             16    5    3    8   19   26   18   -7 
  18 Oldham Athletic          15    4    4    7   20   23   16   -3 
  19 QPR                      16    3    6    7   14   23   15   -9 
  20 Southampton              16    3    4    9   13   27   13  -14 
  21 Sheffield Utd.           16    3    3   10   22   33   12  -11 
  22 Luton Town               16    2    4   10    9   35   10  -26 
    
13.101YUPPY::PANESStuart Panes @U.S.MMon Nov 18 1991 13:2825
         <<< Note 13.100 by FORTY2::ROBERTSON "I brake for coffee!!" >>>
                    -< Luton finally where they belong!!! >-

From memory, Please indicate any errors:
    
    Al
    
    
    Barclays League Division 1 , Sat 16 Nov 1991
    
       Aston Villa        1  -  0    Notts County       
       Chelsea            0  -  3    Norwich City       
       Crystal Palace     1  -  0    Southampton        
                          ^
       Everton            2  -  0    Wimbledon          
       Leeds Utd.         2  -  0    QPR                
       Man City           0  -  0    Man Utd.           
       Nottingham For     1  -  0    Coventry City      
       Oldham Athletic    1  -  1    Arsenal            
       Tottenham Hotspur  4  -  1    Luton Town         
    
    Barclays League Division 1 , Sun 17 Nov 1991
    
       Sheffield Utd.     2  -  0    Sheffield Wed.     
       West Ham Utd.      0  -  0    Liverpool          
13.102Monday Morning Blues!!FORTY2::ROBERTSONI brake for coffee!!Mon Nov 18 1991 14:4434
    Thanks Stuart,
    
    My fingers think it's still the weekend, Here's the updated table:
    
    
    
       Crystal Palace     1  -  0    Southampton        


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Leeds Utd.               16    9    6    1   27   12   33   15 
   2 Man Utd.                 15    9    5    1   23    7   32   16 
   3 Man City                 16    9    2    5   22   17   29    5 
   4 Aston Villa              16    8    3    5   22   15   27    7 
   5 Crystal Palace           15    8    3    4   25   25   27    0
   6 Arsenal                  15    7    4    4   30   20   25   10 
   7 Sheffield Wed.           16    7    4    5   26   20   25    6 
   8 Norwich City             16    5    8    3   19   17   23    2 
   9 Everton                  16    6    4    6   23   21   22    2 
  10 Chelsea                  16    5    7    4   24   23   22    1 
  11 Liverpool                14    5    6    3   15   12   21    3 
  12 Tottenham Hotspur        13    6    2    5   22   18   20    4 
  13 Nottingham For           15    6    2    7   25   24   20    1 
  14 Coventry City            16    6    2    8   16   15   20    1 
  15 West Ham Utd.            16    4    7    5   17   19   19   -2 
  16 Wimbledon                16    5    3    8   22   24   18   -2 
  17 Notts County             16    5    3    8   19   26   18   -7 
  18 Oldham Athletic          15    4    4    7   20   23   16   -3 
  19 QPR                      16    3    6    7   14   23   15   -9 
  20 Southampton              16    3    4    9   13   26   13  -13
  21 Sheffield Utd.           16    3    3   10   22   33   12  -11 
  22 Luton Town               16    2    4   10    9   35   10  -26 
    
13.103Good news for all!AIMTEC::WICKS_AVA - the SFCP Migration from HELLTue Nov 19 1991 02:4211
    Re .100,
    
    Good news about luton - congrats to Sheff U.
    
    anyone know where luton's last game in Div 1 is? Surely we should
    organise a notes file outing (should double their crowd) in may
    to bid them farewell.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
13.104Dual RelegationPANIC::ANDERSONThe 'Pies have gone coldWed Nov 20 1991 11:557
    Andrew,
    
    It's scheduled to be at Meadow Lane, Nottingham on May 2nd.
    
    Rob
    
    (...and if a dozen noters turn up, it will double the crowd :-)
13.105Magnusson to Chelsea?TOTH::CHAVESAlegria de pobre dura poucoWed Nov 20 1991 16:134
    According to a newspaper report Chelsea wants Benfica' Magnusson.
    Has this been reported in England?
    
    JC
13.106Results from 23rd/24th NovFORTY2::ROBERTSONI brake for coffee!!Mon Nov 25 1991 12:1845
	Sat 23rd

       Everton            1  -  0    Notts County       
       Luton Town         2  -  2    Man City           
       Man Utd.           2  -  1    West Ham Utd.      
       Norwich City       3  -  2    Coventry City      
       Nottingham For     5  -  1    Crystal Palace     
       QPR                1  -  3    Oldham Athletic    
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  1    Arsenal            
       Southampton        1  -  0    Chelsea            
       Tottenham Hotspur  0  -  1    Sheffield Utd.     
       Wimbledon          0  -  0    Liverpool          

	Sun 24th

       Aston Villa        1  -  4    Leeds Utd.         





        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Leeds Utd.               17   10    6    1   31   13   36   18 
   2 Man Utd.                 16   10    5    1   25    8   35   17 
   3 Man City                 17    9    3    5   24   19   30    5 
   4 Aston Villa              17    8    3    6   23   19   27    4 
   5 Crystal Palace           16    8    3    5   26   30   27   -4 
   6 Arsenal                  16    7    5    4   31   21   26   10 
   7 Sheffield Wed.           17    7    5    5   27   21   26    6 
   8 Norwich City             17    6    8    3   22   19   26    3 
   9 Everton                  17    7    4    6   24   21   25    3 
  10 Nottingham For           16    7    2    7   30   25   23    5 
  11 Liverpool                15    5    7    3   15   12   22    3 
  12 Chelsea                  17    5    7    5   24   24   22    0 
  13 Tottenham Hotspur        14    6    2    6   22   19   20    3 
  14 Coventry City            17    6    2    9   18   18   20    0 
  15 Oldham Athletic          16    5    4    7   23   24   19   -1 
  16 Wimbledon                17    5    4    8   22   24   19   -2 
  17 West Ham Utd.            17    4    7    6   18   21   19   -3 
  18 Notts County             17    5    3    9   19   27   18   -8 
  19 Southampton              17    4    4    9   14   26   16  -12 
  20 Sheffield Utd.           17    4    3   10   23   33   15  -10 
  21 QPR                      17    3    6    8   15   26   15  -11 
  22 Luton Town               17    2    5   10   11   37   11  -26 
13.107Results & table from Nov 30/Dec 1FORTY2::ROBERTSONMon Dec 02 1991 13:1240
	Sat    Nov 30

       Chelsea            1  -  0    Nottingham For     
       Coventry City      2  -  0    Southampton        
       Crystal Palace     1  -  3    Man Utd.           
       Leeds Utd.         1  -  0    Everton            
       Liverpool          2  -  1    Norwich City       
       Man City           0  -  0    Wimbledon          
       Notts County       0  -  1    QPR                
       Oldham Athletic    3  -  2    Aston Villa        
       Sheffield Utd.     1  -  1    Luton Town         
       West Ham Utd.      1  -  2    Sheffield Wed.     

	Sun    Dec 1

       Arsenal            2  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur  


   1 Leeds Utd.               18   11    6    1   32   13   39   19 
   2 Man Utd.                 17   11    5    1   28    9   38   19 
   3 Man City                 18    9    4    5   24   19   31    5 
   4 Arsenal                  17    8    5    4   33   21   29   12 
   5 Sheffield Wed.           18    8    5    5   29   22   29    7 
   6 Aston Villa              18    8    3    7   25   22   27    3 
   7 Crystal Palace           17    8    3    6   27   33   27   -6 
   8 Norwich City             18    6    8    4   23   21   26    2 
   9 Liverpool                16    6    7    3   17   13   25    4 
  10 Everton                  18    7    4    7   24   22   25    2 
  11 Chelsea                  18    6    7    5   25   24   25    1 
  12 Nottingham For           17    7    2    8   30   26   23    4 
  13 Coventry City            18    7    2    9   20   18   23    2 
  14 Oldham Athletic          17    6    4    7   26   26   22    0 
  15 Tottenham Hotspur        15    6    2    7   22   21   20    1 
  16 Wimbledon                18    5    5    8   22   24   20   -2 
  17 West Ham Utd.            18    4    7    7   19   23   19   -4 
  18 Notts County             18    5    3   10   19   28   18   -9 
  19 QPR                      18    4    6    8   16   26   18  -10 
  20 Sheffield Utd.           18    4    4   10   24   34   16  -10 
  21 Southampton              18    4    4   10   14   28   16  -14 
  22 Luton Town               18    2    6   10   12   38   12  -26 
13.108Results & Table 7/8th DecFORTY2::ROBERTSONMon Dec 09 1991 12:2245
	Saturday 7th Dec 1991

       Aston Villa        3  -  1    Man City           
       Everton            4  -  0    West Ham Utd.      
       Luton Town         0  -  2    Leeds Utd.         
       Man Utd.           4  -  0    Coventry City      
       Norwich City       3  -  3    Crystal Palace     
       QPR                1  -  0    Sheffield Utd.     
       Sheffield Wed.     3  -  0    Chelsea            
       Southampton        1  -  1    Liverpool          
       Tottenham Hotspur  2  -  1    Notts County       
       Wimbledon          2  -  1    Oldham Athletic    

	Sunday 8th Dec 1991

       Nottingham For     3  -  2    Arsenal            



        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Leeds Utd.               19   12    6    1   34   13   42   21 
   2 Man Utd.                 18   12    5    1   32    9   41   23 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           19    9    5    5   32   22   32   10 
   4 Man City                 19    9    4    6   25   22   31    3 
   5 Aston Villa              19    9    3    7   28   23   30    5 
   6 Arsenal                  18    8    5    5   35   24   29   11 
   7 Everton                  19    8    4    7   28   22   28    6 
   8 Crystal Palace           18    8    4    6   30   36   28   -6 
   9 Norwich City             19    6    9    4   26   24   27    2 
  10 Nottingham For           18    8    2    8   33   28   26    5 
  11 Liverpool                17    6    8    3   18   14   26    4 
  12 Chelsea                  19    6    7    6   25   27   25   -2 
  13 Tottenham Hotspur        16    7    2    7   24   22   23    2 
  14 Wimbledon                19    6    5    8   24   25   23   -1 
  15 Coventry City            19    7    2   10   20   22   23   -2 
  16 Oldham Athletic          18    6    4    8   27   28   22   -1 
  17 QPR                      19    5    6    8   17   26   21   -9 
  18 West Ham Utd.            19    4    7    8   19   27   19   -8 
  19 Notts County             19    5    3   11   20   30   18  -10 
  20 Southampton              19    4    5   10   15   29   17  -14 
  21 Sheffield Utd.           19    4    4   11   24   35   16  -11 
  22 Luton Town               19    2    6   11   12   40   12  -28 


13.109Results & Table 14/15th Dec - Man Utd back on topFORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's me in the cornerMon Dec 16 1991 13:0844
	Saturday 14th Dec.

       Arsenal              off      Norwich City
       Coventry City        off      Sheffield Wed.
       Leeds Utd.         1  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Liverpool          2  -  0    Nottingham For     
       Man City           2  -  2    QPR
       Notts County         off      Wimbledon                
       Oldham Athletic    2  -  2    Everton            
       Sheffield Utd.     2  -  0    Aston Villa  
       West Ham Utd         off      Southampton     

	Sunday 15th Dec.

       Chelsea            1  -  3    Man Utd.           
       Crystal Palace       off      Luton Town




        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 19   13    5    1   35   10   44   25 
   2 Leeds Utd.               20   12    7    1   35   14   43   21 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           19    9    5    5   32   22   32   10 
   4 Man City                 20    9    5    6   27   24   32    3 
   5 Aston Villa              20    9    3    8   28   25   30    3 
   6 Arsenal                  18    8    5    5   35   24   29   11 
   7 Liverpool                18    7    8    3   20   14   29    6 
   8 Everton                  20    8    5    7   30   24   29    6 
   9 Crystal Palace           18    8    4    6   30   36   28   -6 
  10 Norwich City             19    6    9    4   26   24   27    2 
  11 Nottingham For           19    8    2    9   33   30   26    3 
  12 Chelsea                  20    6    7    7   26   30   25   -4 
  13 Tottenham Hotspur        17    7    3    7   25   23   24    2 
  14 Oldham Athletic          19    6    5    8   29   30   23   -1 
  15 Wimbledon                19    6    5    8   24   25   23   -1 
  16 Coventry City            19    7    2   10   20   22   23   -2 
  17 QPR                      20    5    7    8   19   28   22   -9 
  18 West Ham Utd.            19    4    7    8   19   27   19   -8 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           20    5    4   11   26   35   19   -9 
  20 Notts County             19    5    3   11   20   30   18  -10 
  21 Southampton              19    4    5   10   15   29   17  -14 
  22 Luton Town               19    2    6   11   12   40   12  -28 
13.110mr. Pedantic speaks outKERNEL::HAWLEYIPaul Wattersons love-childMon Dec 16 1991 13:145
    dont wanna be pedantic, but Everton are above Liverpool on the
    grounds that theyve scored more goals than us...
    Thanks,
    Ian.
    
13.111Liverpool drop a place !!!!FORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's me in the cornerMon Dec 16 1991 16:0837
Thanks Ian,

Just found the bug in the program. shouldn't happen again.

Here is the updated table

Al






        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 19   13    5    1   35   10   44   25 
   2 Leeds Utd.               20   12    7    1   35   14   43   21 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           19    9    5    5   32   22   32   10 
   4 Man City                 20    9    5    6   27   24   32    3 
   5 Aston Villa              20    9    3    8   28   25   30    3 
   6 Arsenal                  18    8    5    5   35   24   29   11 
   7 Everton                  20    8    5    7   30   24   29    6 
   8 Liverpool                18    7    8    3   20   14   29    6 
   9 Crystal Palace           18    8    4    6   30   36   28   -6 
  10 Norwich City             19    6    9    4   26   24   27    2 
  11 Nottingham For           19    8    2    9   33   30   26    3 
  12 Chelsea                  20    6    7    7   26   30   25   -4 
  13 Tottenham Hotspur        17    7    3    7   25   23   24    2 
  14 Oldham Athletic          19    6    5    8   29   30   23   -1 
  15 Wimbledon                19    6    5    8   24   25   23   -1 
  16 Coventry City            19    7    2   10   20   22   23   -2 
  17 QPR                      20    5    7    8   19   28   22   -9 
  18 West Ham Utd.            19    4    7    8   19   27   19   -8 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           20    5    4   11   26   35   19   -9 
  20 Notts County             19    5    3   11   20   30   18  -10 
  21 Southampton              19    4    5   10   15   29   17  -14 
  22 Luton Town               19    2    6   11   12   40   12  -28 
13.112tell me moreKERNEL::HAWLEYINOT Paul Wattersons love childMon Dec 16 1991 17:103
    program?
    Ian.
    
13.113FORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's me in the cornerMon Dec 16 1991 18:1610
Ian,

I rustled up a little program in 'C' a couple of months back.

I put in the scores, it works out the table, and dumps both to an output
file, which I enter into Notes.

It beats entering the table manually every Monday morning :-)

Al
13.114Liverpool go 4thFORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's me in the cornerThu Dec 19 1991 13:4430
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  2    Liverpool          
	Walsh	23		      Saunders 28
				      Houghton 80



        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 19   13    5    1   35   10   44   25 
   2 Leeds Utd.               20   12    7    1   35   14   43   21 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           19    9    5    5   32   22   32   10 
   4 Liverpool                19    8    8    3   22   15   32    7 
   5 Man City                 20    9    5    6   27   24   32    3 
   6 Aston Villa              20    9    3    8   28   25   30    3 
   7 Arsenal                  18    8    5    5   35   24   29   11 
   8 Everton                  20    8    5    7   30   24   29    6 
   9 Crystal Palace           18    8    4    6   30   36   28   -6 
  10 Norwich City             19    6    9    4   26   24   27    2 
  11 Nottingham For           19    8    2    9   33   30   26    3 
  12 Chelsea                  20    6    7    7   26   30   25   -4 
  13 Tottenham Hotspur        18    7    3    8   26   25   24    1 
  14 Oldham Athletic          19    6    5    8   29   30   23   -1 
  15 Wimbledon                19    6    5    8   24   25   23   -1 
  16 Coventry City            19    7    2   10   20   22   23   -2 
  17 QPR                      20    5    7    8   19   28   22   -9 
  18 West Ham Utd.            19    4    7    8   19   27   19   -8 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           20    5    4   11   26   35   19   -9 
  20 Notts County             19    5    3   11   20   30   18  -10 
  21 Southampton              19    4    5   10   15   29   17  -14 
  22 Luton Town               19    2    6   11   12   40   12  -28 
13.115Attacking stats 19/12/1991KERNEL::HAWLEYIits a monster!!!Thu Dec 19 1991 15:1241
    A few stats based on attacking and defending...
    unfortunately i havent got the division tables for home and away
    matches so i cant work out the stats for home and away performance.
    might do that next week.
    The tables are basedd on number of goals scored divided by the number
    of games played for the attacking table, and number of goals conceded
    etc... for defending.
    
    ATTACKING
    ---------
    
       TEAM                MP         GS           AVE
    1. Arsenal             18         35          1.94
    2. Man Utd.            19         35          1.84
    3. Leeds               20         35          1.75
    4. Nottm Forest        19         33          1.74
    5. Sheff Weds          19         32          1.68
    6. Crystal Palace      18         30          1.67
    7. Oldham              19         29          1.53
    8. Everton             20         30          1.50
    9. Spurs               18         26          1.44
    10.Aston Villa         20         28          1.40
    11.Norwich             19         26          1.37
    12.Man City            20         27          1.35
    13.Chelsea             20         26          1.30   (won more games)
    14.Sheffield Utd       20         26          1.30   
    15.Wimbledon           19         24          1.26
    16.Liverpool           19         22          1.16
    17.Coventry            19         20          1.05
    18.Notts County        19         20          1.05
    19.West Ham            19         19          1.00
    20.QPR                 20         19          0.95
    21.Southampton         19         15          0.79
    22.Luton               19         12          0.63
    
    
    as you can see, Liverpool not doing too well in the attacking stakes...
    however, lets see what happens on defence...
    Ian.
    
    
13.116Defensive stats 19-12-1991KERNEL::HAWLEYIits a monster!!!Thu Dec 19 1991 15:5136
    
    DEFENSE
    -------
    
    TEAM                    MP              GC             AVE
    
    1. Man Utd.             19              10            0.53
    2. Leeds                20              14            0.70
    3. Liverpool            19              15            0.79
    4. Sheff Weds           19              22            1.16
    5. Coventry City        19              22            1.16
    6. Man City.            20              24            1.20
    7. Everton              20              24            1.20
    8. Aston Villa          20              25            1.25
    9. Norwich              19              24            1.26
    10.Wimbledon            19              25            1.32
    11.Arsenal              18              24            1.33
    12.Spurs                18              25            1.39
    13.QPR                  20              28            1.40
    14.West Ham             19              27            1.42
    15.Chelsea              20              30            1.50
    16.Southampton          19              29            1.53
    17.Notts Forest         19              30            1.58
    18.Oldham               19              30            1.58
    19.Notts County         19              30            1.58
    20.Sheff Utd            20              35            1.75
    21.Crystal Palace       18              36            2.00
    22.Luton Town           19              40            2.11
    
    
    a couple of suprises here, Arsenal have conceded quite a few, whilst
    Coventry seem to be very good defensively.
    Ian.
    
    
    
13.117Final stats for 19-12-1991KERNEL::HAWLEYIits a monster!!!Thu Dec 19 1991 16:4539
    
    when you divide the offensive average and the defensive average,
    you can get this final table which shows clearly how the teams are
    faring altogether, since the season began...
    the table clearly shows that Man Utd, Leeds and Liverpool have been the
    top 3 teams so far, with Man Utd runaway leaders. considering
    Liverpools offensive stat, i was very suprised that they were 3rd best 
    in the division altogether. However it IS very close between them,
    arsenal and Sheff weds for 3rd place.
    
    
    TEAM                    FINAL AVE
    
    1. Man Utd.               3.47
    2. Leeds                  2.50
    3. Liverpool              1.47
    4. Arsenal                1.46
    5. Sheff Weds             1.45
    6. Everton                1.25
    7. Man City               1.125
    8. Aston Villa            1.12
    9. Notts Forest           1.10
    10.Norwich                1.09
    11.Spurs                  1.04
    12.Oldham                 0.97
    13.Wimbledon              0.95
    14.Coventry               0.91
    15.Chelsea                0.87
    16.Crystal Palace         0.835
    17.Sheff Utd.             0.74
    18.West Ham               0.70
    19.QPR                    0.68
    20.Notts County           0.66
    21.Southampton            0.52
    22.Luton Town             0.30
    
    Thanks,
    Ian.
        
13.118Boxing Day ResultsCASEE::MERRICKTis the season to be jellyFri Dec 27 1991 10:1238
From VNS:
    
::: FOOTBALL

    Boxing Day Results...
                              
    Barclays League Division 1
    --------------------------
    Aston Villa ........ 3  West Ham United .... 1
    Everton ............ 0  Sheffield Wednesday  1
    Leeds United ....... 3  Southampton ........ 3
    Luton Town ......... 1  Arsenal ............ 0
    Manchester City  ... 2  Norwich City ....... 1
    Notts County ....... 2  Chelsea ............ 0
    Oldham Athletic .... 3  Manchester United .. 6
    Queen's Park Rangers 0  Liverpool .......... 0
    Sheffield United ... 0  Coventry City .....  3
    Tottenham Hotspur .. 1  Nottingham Forest .. 2
    Wimbledon .......... 1  Crytsal Palacae .... 1


    Barclays League Division 2
    --------------------------
    Barsnley ........... 0  Port Vale .......... 0
    Bristol City ....... 1  Swindon Town ....... 1
    Cambridge United ... 1  Plymouth Argyle .... 1
    Derby County ....... 0  Grimsby Town ....... 0
    Ipswich Town ....... 2  Charlton Athletic .. 0
    Leicester City ..... 2  Brighton ........... 1
    Millwall ........... 0  Hull City .......... 4
    Newcastle United ... 0  Middlesbrough ...... 1
    Oxford United ...... 0  Southend United .... 1
    Portsmouth ......... 2  Bristol Rovers ..... 0
    Tranmere Rovers .... 1  Sunderland ......... 0
    Wolverhampton Wndrs  0  Blackburn Rovers ... 0
 

    
13.119ResultsQETOO::CHAVESMon Dec 30 1991 17:1631
    From VNS:
    
    Barclays League Division 1

    Aston Villa ........ 2  Southampton ....... 1
    Everton ............ 1  Liverpool ......... 1
    Leeds United ....... 1  Manchester Utd .... 1
    Luton Town ......... 2  Chelsea ........... 0
    Manchester City .... 1  Arsenal ........... 0
    Notts County ....... 3  West Ham United ..  0
    Oldham Athletic .... 2  Nottingham Forest . 1
    Queen's Park Rangers 1  Sheffield Wednesday 1
    Sheffield United ... 1  Crystal Palace .... 1
    Tottenham Hotspur .. 3  Norwich City ...... 0
    Wimbledon .......... 1  Coventry City ..... 1

    Barclays League Division 2

    Barnsley ........... 1  Swindon Town ...... 1
    Bristol City ....... 3  Port Vale ......... 0
    Cambridge United ... 0  Watford ........... 1
    Derby County ....... 1  Charlton Athletic . 2
    Ipswich Town ....... 2  Blackburn Rovers .. 1
    Leicester City ..... 2  Southend United ... 0
    Millwall ........... 2  Plymouth Argyle ... 1
    Newcastle United ... 2  Bristol Rovers .... 1
    Oxford United ...... 3  Sunderland ........ 0
    Portsmouth ......... 4  Middlesbrough ..... 0
    Tranmere Rovers .... 1  Grimsby Town ...... 1
    Wolverhampton Wndrs  2  Brighton & H.A. ... 0
13.120Results 20/21/22-DecFORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's me in the cornerThu Jan 02 1992 14:4946
	20th Dec 1991

       Luton Town         1  -  0    Coventry City      
       Southampton        1  -  1    Notts County

	21st Dec 1991
       
       Arsenal            4  -  2    Everton            
       Chelsea            4  -  2    Oldham Athletic    
       Liverpool          2  -  2    Man City           
       Norwich City       0  -  1    QPR                
       Sheffield Wed.     2  -  0    Wimbledon          
       West Ham Utd.      1  -  1    Sheffield Utd. 

	22nd Dec 1991

       Crystal Palace     1  -  2    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Nottingham For     0  -  0    Leeds Utd.         



        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 19   13    5    1   35   10   44   25 
   2 Leeds Utd.               21   12    8    1   35   14   44   21 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           20   10    5    5   34   22   35   12 
   4 Liverpool                20    8    9    3   24   17   33    7 
   5 Man City                 21    9    6    6   29   26   33    3 
   6 Arsenal                  19    9    5    5   39   26   32   13 
   7 Aston Villa              20    9    3    8   28   25   30    3 
   8 Everton                  21    8    5    8   32   28   29    4 
   9 Chelsea                  21    7    7    7   30   32   28   -2 
  10 Crystal Palace           19    8    4    7   31   38   28   -7 
  11 Nottingham For           20    8    3    9   33   30   27    3 
  12 Tottenham Hotspur        19    8    3    8   28   26   27    2 
  13 Norwich City             20    6    9    5   26   25   27    1 
  14 QPR                      21    6    7    8   20   28   25   -8 
  15 Oldham Athletic          20    6    5    9   31   34   23   -3 
  16 Wimbledon                20    6    5    9   24   27   23   -3 
  17 Coventry City            20    7    2   11   20   23   23   -3 
  18 West Ham Utd.            20    4    8    8   20   28   20   -8 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           21    5    5   11   27   36   20   -9 
  20 Notts County             20    5    4   11   21   31   19  -10 
  21 Southampton              20    4    6   10   16   30   18  -14 
  22 Luton Town               20    3    6   11   13   40   15  -27 
13.121Table From Boxing DayFORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's me in the cornerThu Jan 02 1992 14:5126
The Results are in 13.118

        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 20   14    5    1   41   13   47   28 
   2 Leeds Utd.               22   12    9    1   38   17   45   21 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           21   11    5    5   35   22   38   13 
   4 Man City                 22   10    6    6   31   27   36    4 
   5 Liverpool                21    8   10    3   24   17   34    7 
   6 Aston Villa              21   10    3    8   31   26   33    5 
   7 Arsenal                  20    9    5    6   39   27   32   12 
   8 Nottingham For           21    9    3    9   35   31   30    4 
   9 Everton                  22    8    5    9   32   29   29    3 
  10 Crystal Palace           20    8    5    7   32   39   29   -7 
  11 Chelsea                  22    7    7    8   30   34   28   -4 
  12 Tottenham Hotspur        20    8    3    9   29   28   27    1 
  13 Norwich City             21    6    9    6   27   27   27    0 
  14 Coventry City            21    8    2   11   23   23   26    0 
  15 QPR                      22    6    8    8   20   28   26   -8 
  16 Wimbledon                21    6    6    9   25   28   24   -3 
  17 Oldham Athletic          21    6    5   10   34   40   23   -6 
  18 Notts County             21    6    4   11   23   31   22   -8 
  19 West Ham Utd.            21    4    8    9   21   31   20  -10 
  20 Sheffield Utd.           22    5    5   12   27   39   20  -12 
  21 Southampton              21    4    7   10   19   33   19  -14 
  22 Luton Town               21    4    6   11   14   40   18  -26 
13.122Results from 28/29 DecFORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's me in the cornerThu Jan 02 1992 14:5342
	28th Dec 1991

       Aston Villa        2  -  1    Southampton        
       Everton            1  -  1    Liverpool          
       Luton Town         2  -  0    Chelsea            
       Man City           1  -  0    Arsenal            
       Notts County       3  -  0    West Ham Utd.      
       Oldham Athletic    2  -  1    Nottingham For     
       QPR                1  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Sheffield Utd.     1  -  1    Crystal Palace     
       Tottenham Hotspur  3  -  0    Norwich City       
       Wimbledon          1  -  1    Coventry City      

	29th Dec 1991

       Leeds Utd.         1  -  1    Man Utd.           


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 21   14    6    1   42   14   48   28 
   2 Leeds Utd.               23   12   10    1   39   18   46   21 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           22   11    6    5   36   23   39   13 
   4 Man City                 23   11    6    6   32   27   39    5 
   5 Aston Villa              22   11    3    8   33   27   36    6 
   6 Liverpool                22    8   11    3   25   18   35    7 
   7 Arsenal                  21    9    5    7   39   28   32   11 
   8 Tottenham Hotspur        21    9    3    9   32   28   30    4 
   9 Nottingham For           22    9    3   10   36   33   30    3 
  10 Everton                  23    8    6    9   33   30   30    3 
  11 Crystal Palace           21    8    6    7   33   40   30   -7 
  12 Chelsea                  23    7    7    9   30   36   28   -6 
  13 Coventry City            22    8    3   11   24   24   27    0 
  14 Norwich City             22    6    9    7   27   30   27   -3 
  15 QPR                      23    6    9    8   21   29   27   -8 
  16 Oldham Athletic          22    7    5   10   36   41   26   -5 
  17 Wimbledon                22    6    7    9   26   29   25   -3 
  18 Notts County             22    7    4   11   26   31   25   -5 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           23    5    6   12   28   40   21  -12 
  20 Luton Town               22    5    6   11   16   40   21  -24 
  21 West Ham Utd.            22    4    8   10   21   34   20  -13 
  22 Southampton              22    4    7   11   20   35   19  -15 
13.123New Years Day ResultsFORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's me in the cornerThu Jan 02 1992 14:5444
       Arsenal            1  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Chelsea            1  -  1    Man City           
       Crystal Palace     1  -  0    Notts County       
       Liverpool          2  -  1    Sheffield Utd.     
       Man Utd.           1  -  4    QPR                
       Norwich City       2  -  1    Aston Villa        
       Nottingham For     1  -  1    Luton Town         
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  1    Oldham Athletic    
       Southampton        1  -  2    Everton            
       West Ham Utd.      1  -  3    Leeds Utd.         
       Coventry City      1  -  2    Tottenham Hotspur  





        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Leeds Utd.               24   13   10    1   42   19   49   23 
   2 Man Utd.                 22   14    6    2   43   18   48   25 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           23   11    7    5   37   24   40   13 
   4 Man City                 24   11    7    6   33   28   40    5 
   5 Liverpool                23    9   11    3   27   19   38    8 
   6 Aston Villa              23   11    3    9   34   29   36    5 
   7 Arsenal                  22    9    6    7   40   29   33   11 
   8 Tottenham Hotspur        22   10    3    9   34   29   33    5 
   9 Everton                  24    9    6    9   35   31   33    4 
  10 Crystal Palace           22    9    6    7   34   40   33   -6 
  11 Nottingham For           23    9    4   10   37   34   31    3 
  12 Norwich City             23    7    9    7   29   31   30   -2 
  13 QPR                      24    7    9    8   25   30   30   -5 
  14 Chelsea                  24    7    8    9   31   37   29   -6 
  15 Coventry City            23    8    3   12   25   26   27   -1 
  16 Oldham Athletic          23    7    6   10   37   42   27   -5 
  17 Wimbledon                23    6    8    9   27   30   26   -3 
  18 Notts County             23    7    4   12   26   32   25   -6 
  19 Luton Town               23    5    7   11   17   41   22  -24 
  20 Sheffield Utd.           24    5    6   13   29   42   21  -13 
  21 West Ham Utd.            23    4    8   11   22   37   20  -15 
  22 Southampton              23    4    7   12   21   37   19  -16 

Happy New Year to all Noters

Al 
13.124stats for the new yearKERNEL::HAWLEYIprophet of Mu MuThu Jan 02 1992 16:0684
    
    New Year stats for the first division...
    
    Attack
    ------
    
     1.Man Utd                       1.95
     2.Arsenal                       1.82
     3.Leeds United                  1.75
     4.Sheff Weds                    1.61
     5.Nottm Forest                  1.61
     6.Oldham                        1.61
     7.Spurs                         1.55
     8.Crystal Palace                1.55
     9.Aston Villa                   1.48
    10.Everton                       1.46
    11.Man City                      1.37
    12.Chelsea                       1.29
    13.Norwich                       1.26
    14.Sheffield Utd                 1.21
    15.Liverpool                     1.17
    16.Wimbledon                     1.17
    17.Notts Co.                     1.13
    18.Coventry                      1.09
    19.QPR                           1.04
    20.West Ham                      0.96
    21.Southampton                   0.91
    22.Luton Town                    0.74
    
    
    Defence
    -------
    
     1.Leeds United                  0.79
     2.Man Utd                       0.82
     3.Liverpool                     0.83
     4.Sheff Weds                    1.04
     5.Coventry City                 1.13
     6.Man City.                     1.17
     7.QPR                           1.25
     8.Aston Villa                   1.26
     9.Everton                       1.29
    10.Wimbledon                     1.30
    11.Spurs                         1.32
    12.Arsenal                       1.32
    13.Norwich City                  1.35
    14.Notts Co.                     1.39
    15.Nottm Forest                  1.48
    16.Chelsea                       1.54
    17.West Ham                      1.61
    18.Southampton                   1.61
    19.Sheffield Utd                 1.75
    20.Luton Town                    1.78
    21.Crystal Palace                1.82
    22.Oldham                        1.83
    
    
    Overall
    -------
    
     1.Man Utd                       2.38
     2.Leeds United                  2.22
     3.Sheff Weds                    1.55
     4.Liverpool                     1.41
     5.Arsenal                       1.38
     6.Man City                      1.18
     7.Aston Villa                   1.17
     8.Spurs                         1.17
     9.Everton                       1.13
    10.Nottm Forest                  1.09
    11.Coventry City                 0.96
    12.Norwich City                  0.93
    13.Wimbledon                     0.90
    14.Oldham                        0.88
    15.Crystal Palace                0.85
    16.Chelsea                       0.84
    17.QPR                           0.83
    18.Notts Co.                     0.81
    19.Sheffield Utd                 0.69
    20.West Ham                      0.60
    21.Southampton                   0.57
    22.Luton Town                    0.42
    
    
13.125Help required FTCVAX::SMITHSMon Jan 06 1992 14:228
    Could someone help please.
    
    What was the result of the Exeter.v.W.B.A game on the saturday after
    christmas.
    thanks in advance
    
    steve
    
13.126AYSPANIC::ANDERSONThe 'Pies have gone coldThu Jan 09 1992 12:235
    Re : -1
    
    Exeter City .. 1   West Bromwich Albion ..1
    
    Rob
13.127thank youFTCVAX::SMITHSFri Jan 10 1992 15:164
    re.1
    thanks
    
    steve
13.128Results & Table 11/12 JanFORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's me in the cornerMon Jan 13 1992 12:4842
	Sat. 11 Jan 1992

       Arsenal            0  -  0    Aston Villa        
       Chelsea            2  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Coventry City      2  -  2    QPR                
       Crystal Palace     1  -  1    Man City           
       Liverpool          2  -  1    Luton Town         
       Man Utd.           1  -  0    Everton            
       Norwich City       1  -  2    Oldham Athletic    
       Nottingham For     1  -  1    Notts County       
       Southampton        2  -  4    Sheffield Utd.     
       West Ham Utd.      1  -  1    Wimbledon          

	Sun. 12 Jan 1992

       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  6    Leeds Utd.         


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Leeds Utd.               25   14   10    1   48   20   52   28 
   2 Man Utd.                 23   15    6    2   44   18   51   26 
   3 Liverpool                24   10   11    3   29   20   41    9 
   4 Man City                 25   11    8    6   34   29   41    5 
   5 Sheffield Wed.           24   11    7    6   38   30   40    8 
   6 Aston Villa              24   11    4    9   34   29   37    5 
   7 Arsenal                  23    9    7    7   40   29   34   11 
   8 Crystal Palace           23    9    7    7   35   41   34   -6 
   9 Everton                  25    9    6   10   35   32   33    3 
  10 Tottenham Hotspur        23   10    3   10   34   31   33    3 
  11 Nottingham For           24    9    5   10   38   35   32    3 
  12 Chelsea                  25    8    8    9   33   37   32   -4 
  13 QPR                      25    7   10    8   27   32   31   -5 
  14 Norwich City             24    7    9    8   30   33   30   -3 
  15 Oldham Athletic          24    8    6   10   39   43   30   -4 
  16 Coventry City            24    8    4   12   27   28   28   -1 
  17 Wimbledon                24    6    9    9   28   31   27   -3 
  18 Notts County             24    7    5   12   27   33   26   -6 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           25    6    6   13   33   44   24  -11 
  20 Luton Town               24    5    7   12   18   43   22  -25 
  21 West Ham Utd.            24    4    9   11   23   38   21  -15 
  22 Southampton              24    4    7   13   23   41   19  -18 
13.129Results & Table 18/19 Jan '92FORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's me in the cornerMon Jan 20 1992 14:0342
	Saturday 18th Jan 1992

       Aston Villa        0  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Leeds Utd.         1  -  1    Crystal Palace     
       Luton Town         0  -  1    West Ham Utd.      
       Man City           1  -  0    Coventry City      
       Notts County       1  -  1    Man Utd.           
       Oldham Athletic    2  -  3    Liverpool          
       QPR                0  -  0    Arsenal            
       Sheffield Utd.     1  -  0    Norwich City       
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  2    Southampton        
       Wimbledon          1  -  2    Chelsea

	Sunday 19th Jan 1992
          
       Everton            1  -  1    Nottingham For     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Leeds Utd.               26   14   11    1   49   21   53   28 
   2 Man Utd.                 24   15    7    2   45   19   52   26 
   3 Liverpool                25   11   11    3   32   22   44   10 
   4 Man City                 26   12    8    6   35   29   44    6 
   5 Sheffield Wed.           25   12    7    6   39   30   43    9 
   6 Aston Villa              25   11    4   10   34   30   37    4 
   7 Arsenal                  24    9    8    7   40   29   35   11 
   8 Chelsea                  26    9    8    9   35   38   35   -3 
   9 Crystal Palace           24    9    8    7   36   42   35   -6 
  10 Everton                  26    9    7   10   36   33   34    3 
  11 Nottingham For           25    9    6   10   39   36   33    3 
  12 Tottenham Hotspur        24   10    3   11   35   33   33    2 
  13 QPR                      26    7   11    8   27   32   32   -5 
  14 Norwich City             25    7    9    9   30   34   30   -4 
  15 Oldham Athletic          25    8    6   11   41   46   30   -5 
  16 Coventry City            25    8    4   13   27   29   28   -2 
  17 Wimbledon                25    6    9   10   29   33   27   -4 
  18 Notts County             25    7    6   12   28   34   27   -6 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           26    7    6   13   34   44   27  -10 
  20 West Ham Utd.            25    5    9   11   24   38   24  -14 
  21 Southampton              25    5    7   13   25   42   22  -17 
  22 Luton Town               25    5    7   13   18   44   22  -26 
13.130Leeds go back to 2ndFORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's me in the cornerThu Jan 23 1992 19:588
        Man Utd.           1  -  0    Aston Villa        

   1 Man Utd.                 25   16    7    2   46   19   55   27 
   2 Leeds Utd.               26   14   11    1   49   21   53   28 
   3 Liverpool                25   11   11    3   32   22   44   10 
   4 Man City                 26   12    8    6   35   29   44    6 
   5 Sheffield Wed.           25   12    7    6   39   30   43    9 
   6 Aston Villa              26   11    4   11   34   31   37    3 
13.131Results & Table Feb 1/2FORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's me in the cornerMon Feb 03 1992 13:2442
	Sat  Feb 1 1992

       Arsenal            1  -  1    Man Utd.           
       Crystal Palace     0  -  1    Coventry City      
       Leeds Utd.         3  -  0    Notts County       
       Liverpool          1  -  2    Chelsea            
       Man City           1  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Norwich City       2  -  1    Southampton        
       Nottingham For     2  -  5    Sheffield Utd.     
       QPR                1  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Sheffield Wed.     3  -  2    Luton Town         
       West Ham Utd.      1  -  0    Oldham Athletic

	Sun Feb 2 1992
    
       Aston Villa        0  -  0    Everton            


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Leeds Utd.               27   15   11    1   52   21   56   31 
   2 Man Utd.                 26   16    8    2   47   20   56   27 
   3 Liverpool                27   12   11    4   35   24   47   11 
   4 Man City                 27   13    8    6   36   29   47    7 
   5 Sheffield Wed.           26   13    7    6   42   32   46   10 
   6 Aston Villa              27   11    5   11   34   31   38    3 
   7 Chelsea                  27   10    8    9   37   39   38   -2 
   8 Arsenal                  26    9    9    8   41   32   36    9 
   9 Everton                  27    9    8   10   36   33   35    3 
  10 Crystal Palace           25    9    8    8   36   43   35   -7 
  11 Tottenham Hotspur        26   10    4   12   35   34   34    1 
  12 Nottingham For           26    9    6   11   41   41   33    0 
  13 Norwich City             26    8    9    9   32   35   33   -3 
  14 QPR                      27    7   12    8   28   33   33   -5 
  15 Coventry City            26    9    4   13   28   29   31   -1 
  16 Oldham Athletic          27    8    7   12   41   47   31   -6 
  17 Sheffield Utd.           27    8    6   13   39   46   30   -7 
  18 Wimbledon                26    6   10   10   30   34   28   -4 
  19 Notts County             26    7    6   13   28   37   27   -9 
  20 West Ham Utd.            26    6    9   11   25   38   27  -13 
  21 Southampton              26    5    7   14   26   44   22  -18 
  22 Luton Town               26    5    7   14   20   47   22  -27 
13.132AEO780::ROWLAND_Aa slip of the tongueMon Feb 10 1992 16:488
    
    Is Mr Robertson not in today ? !! Results and tables please someone ?
    
    (Just for those of us who don't get an English paper until tonight !)
    
    Cheers,
    
    	Ads.
13.133OK briefly, OK briefly... ARRODS::SWANSONMon Feb 10 1992 17:2240
Chelsea  1 Palace 1

Coventry C 0  Loonypool 0

Eversoboring 0 Raynes Park Queenies 0  (att 18,000 wow)

Luton 2 Norwich 0

Moancheaters United 0 Sheffield WED 0

NOTTS County 0  The Arse 1

Oldham 2 Leeds (Leeds Leeds) 0

Sheffield United 4 Man City 2

Wombles 2 Aston Villa 0


Table
            P    Pts
Man Utd    27    57
Leeds      28    56
Scouse     28    48
Wednesday  27    47
Man City   28    47
Arsenal    27    39
Chelsea    27    39
-----------------------

-----------------------
Coventry   27    32
Wimbledon  27    31
Notts Co.  27    27
West Ham   26    27
Luton      27    25
Soton      26    22


Hope this helps!!
13.134Results (at last) !!!FORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's me in the cornerMon Feb 10 1992 18:5144
Here are the results at last.

I've had a pretty busy morning

Al

	Sat 8th Feb 1992

       Chelsea            1  -  1    Crystal Palace     
       Coventry City      0  -  0    Liverpool          
       Everton            0  -  0    QPR                
       Luton Town         2  -  0    Norwich City       
       Man Utd.           1  -  1    Sheffield Wed.
       Notts County       0  -  1    Arsenal
       Oldham Athletic    2  -  0    Leeds Utd.         
       Sheffield Utd.     4  -  2    Man City           
       Wimbledon          1  -  0    Aston Villa     ??? (-.1 cast some doubts)



        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 27   16    9    2   48   21   57   27 
   2 Leeds Utd.               28   15   11    2   52   23   56   29 
   3 Liverpool                28   12   12    4   35   24   48   11 
   4 Sheffield Wed.           27   13    8    6   43   33   47   10 
   5 Man City                 28   13    8    7   38   33   47    5 
   6 Arsenal                  27   10    9    8   42   32   39   10 
   7 Chelsea                  28   10    9    9   38   40   39   -2 
   8 Aston Villa              28   11    5   12   34   32   38    2 
   9 Everton                  28    9    9   10   36   33   36    3 
  10 Crystal Palace           26    9    9    8   37   44   36   -7 
  11 Tottenham Hotspur        26   10    4   12   35   34   34    1 
  12 Oldham Athletic          28    9    7   12   43   47   34   -4 
  13 QPR                      28    7   13    8   28   33   34   -5 
  14 Nottingham For           26    9    6   11   41   41   33    0 
  15 Sheffield Utd.           28    9    6   13   43   48   33   -5 
  16 Norwich City             27    8    9   10   32   37   33   -5 
  17 Coventry City            27    9    5   13   28   29   32   -1 
  18 Wimbledon                27    7   10   10   31   34   31   -3 
  19 Notts County             27    7    6   14   28   38   27  -10 
  20 West Ham Utd.            26    6    9   11   25   38   27  -13 
  21 Luton Town               27    6    7   14   22   47   25  -25 
  22 Southampton              26    5    7   14   26   44   22  -18 
13.135ARRODS::SWANSONMon Feb 10 1992 19:136
        
>>>    Wimbledon          1  -  0    Aston Villa     ??? (-.1 cast some doubts)

Independent had it as 2-0 but it could be a typo

(Thanks for the proper update)
13.136YUPPY::PANESHippy daze is here againMon Feb 10 1992 19:1515
                     <<< Note 13.135 by ARRODS::SWANSON >>>

        
>>>    Wimbledon          1  -  0    Aston Villa     ??? (-.1 cast some doubts)

>Independent had it as 2-0 but it could be a typo

>(Thanks for the proper update)



It was 2-0 ( Fashanu, Phelan )


Stuo
13.137with correctionsFORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's me in the cornerMon Feb 10 1992 19:2441
Thanks for the updates

Al
	Sat 8th Feb 1992

       Chelsea            1  -  1    Crystal Palace     
       Coventry City      0  -  0    Liverpool          
       Everton            0  -  0    QPR                
       Luton Town         2  -  0    Norwich City       
       Man Utd.           1  -  1    Sheffield Wed.
       Notts County       0  -  1    Arsenal
       Oldham Athletic    2  -  0    Leeds Utd.         
       Sheffield Utd.     4  -  2    Man City           
       Wimbledon          2  -  0    Aston Villa



        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 27   16    9    2   48   21   57   27 
   2 Leeds Utd.               28   15   11    2   52   23   56   29 
   3 Liverpool                28   12   12    4   35   24   48   11 
   4 Sheffield Wed.           27   13    8    6   43   33   47   10 
   5 Man City                 28   13    8    7   38   33   47    5 
   6 Arsenal                  27   10    9    8   42   32   39   10 
   7 Chelsea                  28   10    9    9   38   40   39   -2 
   8 Aston Villa              28   11    5   12   34   33   38    1 *
   9 Everton                  28    9    9   10   36   33   36    3 
  10 Crystal Palace           26    9    9    8   37   44   36   -7 
  11 Tottenham Hotspur        26   10    4   12   35   34   34    1 
  12 Oldham Athletic          28    9    7   12   43   47   34   -4 
  13 QPR                      28    7   13    8   28   33   34   -5 
  14 Nottingham For           26    9    6   11   41   41   33    0 
  15 Sheffield Utd.           28    9    6   13   43   48   33   -5 
  16 Norwich City             27    8    9   10   32   37   33   -5 
  17 Coventry City            27    9    5   13   28   29   32   -1 
  18 Wimbledon                27    7   10   10   32   34   31   -2 *
  19 Notts County             27    7    6   14   28   38   27  -10 
  20 West Ham Utd.            26    6    9   11   25   38   27  -13 
  21 Luton Town               27    6    7   14   22   47   25  -25 
  22 Southampton              26    5    7   14   26   44   22  -18 
13.138Results & Table 15/16th FebFORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's me in the cornerMon Feb 17 1992 15:0442
       Arsenal            7  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Man City           4  -  0    Luton Town         
       Oldham Athletic    2  -  1    QPR                
       Tottenham Hotspur  0  -  1    Crystal Palace     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 27   16    9    2   48   21   57   27 
   2 Leeds Utd.               28   15   11    2   52   23   56   29 
   3 Man City                 29   14    8    7   42   33   50    9 
   4 Liverpool                28   12   12    4   35   24   48   11 
   5 Sheffield Wed.           28   13    8    7   44   40   47    4 
   6 Arsenal                  29   11   10    8   50   34   43   16 
   7 Chelsea                  29   10   10    9   39   41   40   -2 
   8 Crystal Palace           27   10    9    8   38   44   39   -6 
   9 Aston Villa              28   11    5   12   34   33   38    1 
  10 Oldham Athletic          29   10    7   12   45   48   37   -3 
  11 Everton                  28    9    9   10   36   33   36    3 
  12 Tottenham Hotspur        27   10    4   13   35   35   34    0 
  13 Norwich City             28    8   10   10   33   38   34   -5 
  14 QPR                      29    7   13    9   29   35   34   -6 
  15 Nottingham For           26    9    6   11   41   41   33    0 
  16 Sheffield Utd.           28    9    6   13   43   48   33   -5 
  17 Coventry City            27    9    5   13   28   29   32   -1 
  18 Wimbledon                27    7   10   10   32   34   31   -2 
  19 Notts County             27    7    6   14   28   38   27  -10 
  20 West Ham Utd.            26    6    9   11   25   38   27  -13 
  21 Luton Town               28    6    7   15   22   51   25  -29 
  22 Southampton              27    5    8   14   27   45   23  -18 


	Only 4 games this week due to th FA Cup 5th Round.

	Arsenal made up for not winning at home since before Christmas. It was 
1-1 after an hour, and then in a period of about 20 mins they put in 6, and
against a side that took 4 out of 6 points against Man U. this season!!!

	Man City moved into 3rd spot after comfortably disposing of relegation
hopefuls Luton.

Al
13.139Results & Table 22/23rd FebFORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's me in the cornerMon Feb 24 1992 15:0244
I left my list at home again!!! Here's the scores from memory

	Saturday 22nd Feb 1992

       Aston Villa        1  -  0    Oldham Athletic    
       Luton Town         2  -  1    Sheffield Utd.     
       Man Utd.           2  -  0    Crystal Palace     
       Norwich City       3  -  0    Liverpool          
       Nottingham For     1  -  1    Chelsea            
       QPR                1  -  1    Notts County       
       Sheffield Wed.     2  -  1    West Ham Utd.      
       Southampton        0  -  0    Coventry City      
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  1    Arsenal            
       Wimbledon          2  -  1    Man City

	Sunday 23rd Feb 1992
           
       Everton            1  -  1    Leeds Utd.         


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 28   17    9    2   50   21   60   29 
   2 Leeds Utd.               29   15   12    2   53   24   57   29 
   3 Man City                 30   14    8    8   43   35   50    8 
   4 Sheffield Wed.           29   14    8    7   46   41   50    5 
   5 Liverpool                29   12   12    5   35   27   48    8 
   6 Arsenal                  30   11   11    8   51   35   44   16 
   7 Aston Villa              29   12    5   12   35   33   41    2 
   8 Chelsea                  30   10   11    9   40   42   41   -2 
   9 Crystal Palace           28   10    9    9   38   46   39   -8 
  10 Everton                  29    9   10   10   37   34   37    3 
  11 Norwich City             29    9   10   10   36   38   37   -2 
  12 Oldham Athletic          30   10    7   13   45   49   37   -4 
  13 Tottenham Hotspur        28   10    5   13   36   36   35    0 
  14 QPR                      30    7   14    9   30   36   35   -6 
  15 Nottingham For           27    9    7   11   42   42   34    0 
  16 Wimbledon                28    8   10   10   34   35   34   -1 
  17 Coventry City            28    9    6   13   28   29   33   -1 
  18 Sheffield Utd.           29    9    6   14   44   50   33   -6 
  19 Notts County             28    7    7   14   29   39   28  -10 
  20 Luton Town               29    7    7   15   24   52   28  -28 
  21 West Ham Utd.            27    6    9   12   26   40   27  -14 
  22 Southampton              28    5    9   14   27   45   24  -18 
13.140Maybe it's because I'm not human, that I love ...TKOV33::HAIGHHe's gone to early!Wed Feb 26 1992 14:5513
	Due to circumstances beyond my control it looks like I might have to 
spend one of the next two weekends in London. And as somebody somewhere 
mentioned the Rail link from London to Manchester does not make it worth my 
while going to the North West. (Come to think of it any Rail link in Britain 
instills a similar sense of dread...)

	My questions are; which games are on in London this weekend 29/2 & 1/3?
(I know City are away at QPR the weekend after so at least there is some 
consolation for being in London), and what are the live games for these 2 
weekends?

		Steve the cockney ;-)
13.141BLKPUD::WATTERSONPStill no Irish in SwedenWed Feb 26 1992 15:096
Steve,

Everton are at West 'Am on Saturday - bound to be another 0-0 draw....

Paul
13.142Semi-FinalESSB::BLONGThe Scousers Trophy Cabinet is EmptyWed Feb 26 1992 15:316
13.143PEKING::JOLLYLWed Feb 26 1992 16:5310
    
    Steve,
    
    29/2 see your secound favourite team.
    
    go to Chelsea v Sheffeild Utd. and I'll let you buy me the beer you owe
    me;-)
    
    Loz.
    
13.144Games for 29th FebIOSG::BUTTONWed Feb 26 1992 17:2210
    
    Games for 29th Feb
    
    Chelsea v Sheff Wed
    West Ham v Everton
    Palace v Norwich
    
    Millwall v Leicester
    
    Brentford v Stockport
13.145Any live games on the 8/3/92?TKOV33::HAIGHHe's gone to early!Thu Feb 27 1992 11:1820
	Thanks for the info Gentlemen. Although I'll probably be in East 
London and I've always liked the Hammers and the Toffees, I think I might 
give that one a miss this year Paul! :-(
     
>    29/2 see your secound favourite team.
>    
>    go to Chelsea v Sheffeild Utd. and I'll let you buy me the beer you owe
>    me;-)
    
	Laurence! How are you? And how did you know that Sheffield United were 
my second favourite team? (But isn't it Wednesday?) I've owed you that beer 
for so long now, it would be a shame to give it you now! ;-) 

	Brentford v Stockport? Hmmm Stockput born an'bred me! They're not doing
badly either at the moment, although Vinnie Jones in the flesh might just sway
me! Errr by the way, where exactly is Brentford? 


		Steve
13.146At the end of the M4IOSG::BUTTONThu Feb 27 1992 18:0711
    
    Steve,
    
    Brentford is in West London, near the end of the M4.  I do not know the
    nearest Tube station.  I think the ground is called Griffin Park.
    
    I've only been there once, dragged along by AIMTEC::WICKS_A to see
    Cardiff play Hayes in an FA Cup replay.  It was real brass-monkey
    weather, but the post-match Fullers beer made up for that.
    
    Jon
13.147PEKING::JOLLYLFri Feb 28 1992 16:526
    
    Steve (and a couple of others),
    
    your right it is Wednesday on Saturday??????
    
    Same town though, do I get half a point?
13.148OLE OLE OLE OLE EAGLES EAGLESSUBURB::WAITEGGARY WAITEFri Feb 28 1992 17:2611
    re  A few back
    
    
    Do yourself a favour and go and see Palace at home to Norwich. 
    Should be an exciting middle of the table clash.
    
    
    Cheers
    Gary
    
    
13.149COMICS::WATTERSONOne more mint Mr President ?Sun Mar 01 1992 17:2635
    Saturday's results....
    
    Chelsea    0-3   Sheff Wed     att 17,538
    Coventry   0-0   Man Utd       att 23,967
    C. Palace  3-4   Norwich       att 14,201
    Leeds      2-0   Luton         att 28,231
    Liverpool  0-0   Southampton   att 34,449
    Man City   2-0   Aston Villa   att 28,268
    Oldham     0-1   Wimbledon     att 12,166
    Sheff Utd  0-0   QPR           att 17,958
    West Ham   0-2   Everon        att 20,976
    
    Big news of the day was at the third division game between Birmingham
    and Stoke. Stoke scored an 89th minute equaliser, then Birmingham had a
    shot cleared off the line. This was the signal for a number of
    Birmingham supporters to invade the pitch, the police were unable to
    contain these few, so many more joined in and they tried to attack the
    Stoke supporters - the ref was also attacked. The players went off the
    pitch and the match was apparently abandoned, however some 20 minutes
    later, the last 30 seconds were played in a deserted stadium.
    
    As usual the press are making a big thing out off the incident (and a
    minor disturbance at the West Ham - Everton game where a number of West
    Ham supporters held a protest in front of the directors box). The
    league must act now and ban Birmingham from playing for the rest of the
    season and relegate them into the fourth division - even if it's not
    the club's fault, the moron's have got to suffer. If nothing's done
    now, all the other moron's will reappear as quickly as they
    disappeared.
    
    Meanwhile, back at the football, Leeds closed the gap on jittery Man Utd
    - Cantona and Chapman scored the goals to beat Luton. Gary Ablett
    scored his first goal for Everton in the easy 2-0 win at West Ham.
    
    Paul
13.150Table ...FORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's me in the cornerMon Mar 02 1992 13:2628
Paul beat me to getting the results, but here is the table

Al

        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 30   17   11    2   51   22   62   29 
   2 Leeds Utd.               30   16   12    2   55   24   60   31 
   3 Man City                 31   15    8    8   45   35   53   10 
   4 Sheffield Wed.           30   15    8    7   49   41   53    8 
   5 Liverpool                30   12   13    5   35   27   49    8 
   6 Arsenal                  30   11   11    8   51   35   44   16 
   7 Chelsea                  32   10   12   10   41   46   42   -5 
   8 Aston Villa              30   12    5   13   35   35   41    0 
   9 Everton                  30   10   10   10   39   34   40    5 
  10 Norwich City             30   10   10   10   40   41   40   -1 
  11 Crystal Palace           30   10   10   10   42   51   40   -9 
  12 Wimbledon                29    9   10   10   35   35   37    0 
  13 Oldham Athletic          31   10    7   14   45   50   37   -5 
  14 QPR                      31    7   15    9   30   36   36   -6 
  15 Tottenham Hotspur        28   10    5   13   36   36   35    0 
  16 Nottingham For           27    9    7   11   42   42   34    0 
  17 Coventry City            29    9    7   13   28   29   34   -1 
  18 Sheffield Utd.           30    9    7   14   44   50   34   -6 
  19 Luton Town               31    7    8   16   25   55   29  -30 
  20 Notts County             28    7    7   14   29   39   28  -10 
  21 West Ham Utd.            28    6    9   13   26   42   27  -16 
  22 Southampton              29    5   10   14   27   45   25  -18 
13.151Not In A Relegation Slot....yet !PANIC::ANDERSONThe 'Pies have gone coldMon Mar 02 1992 14:557
    Al,
    
    You seem to have missed last Tuesday night's result :
    
    	Notts County 1	Wimbledon 1
    
    Rob
13.152FORTY2::ROBERTSONThat's me in the cornerMon Mar 02 1992 15:3024
Thanks Rob,

	You're right. I didn't see a paper or CEEFAX last Tues/Wed, so I didn't
know the fixture lists/scores, except those posted in here. I thought something
was strange... Luton outside the relegation zone... Anyway they're back where 
they belong now ( Well nearly - Still West Ham & Soton to go ).

So here's the updated bottom half of the table

Al
   .
   .
   .
  12 Wimbledon                30    9   11   10   36   36   38    0 
  13 Oldham Athletic          31   10    7   14   45   50   37   -5 
  14 QPR                      31    7   15    9   30   36   36   -6 
  15 Tottenham Hotspur        28   10    5   13   36   36   35    0 
  16 Nottingham For           27    9    7   11   42   42   34    0 
  17 Coventry City            29    9    7   13   28   29   34   -1 
  18 Sheffield Utd.           30    9    7   14   44   50   34   -6 
  19 Notts County             29    7    8   14   30   40   29  -10 
  20 Luton Town               31    7    8   16   25   55   29  -30 
  21 West Ham Utd.            28    6    9   13   26   42   27  -16 
  22 Southampton              29    5   10   14   27   45   25  -18 
13.153ANNECY::ROWLAND_Aa slip of the tongueMon Mar 02 1992 16:426
    
    re. -1 Stupid question, maybe, but ...
    
    How many are going down this year then ? And how many are coming up ?
    
    Ads. 
13.154'Pies to avoid the drop......I hope!PANIC::ANDERSONThe 'Pies have gone coldMon Mar 02 1992 16:4813
    
    Ads,
    
    The THREE teams going down are :
    
    	West Ham, Southampton, and Luton (of course)
    
    For the THREE coming up, perm any 3 from the top 10 in Div 2
    
    	- 2 automatic places, and 1 from the Play-Offs
    
    
    Rob
13.155ARRODS::OHAGANBI wev ma privet parts et yaw auntyMon Mar 02 1992 16:543
    ....And another season of 42 fixtures. Ridiculous. 
    
    
13.156Make em play even more.WELCLU::BWALKERCome on you Hatters.Mon Mar 02 1992 17:3812
    Barry,
        Whats wrong with 42 fixtures. If they canned another 8 games a
    year. They would only conjure up another silly cup to replace the lost
    games and therefore income.
    
    We have to pay enough and they get paid enough, too much in my opinion.
    If the second, third and fourth divisions can play more league games
    then so can the overpaid, overated fairies of the first/Premier league.
    
    Regs,
    
    Barry.
13.157Fans against the Chairmen!ARRODS::OHAGANBI wev ma privet parts et yaw auntyMon Mar 02 1992 18:4216
    Barry,
    
    How about quality not quantity? After all, if the premier league is
    the place to find the "best", the place where most, if not all, our
    national team is picked from, then it makes more sense to reduce the
    amount of games they play rather than run them into the ground for the
    sake of a chairman's greed? If they're so concerned about the financial 
    impact of losing between 4 and eight fixtures a year then why don't they
    think of another area where they can gain. I suggest they look to the
    area of Transfer fees as a starter, not by increasing, by decreasing or
    at least imposing a ceiling. Or is that too much to ask for? Probably
    not as it's affecting yours and my pockets.   
    
    Barry. 
    
    
13.158FORTY2::ROBERTSONMy Sorrows learnt to swimWed Mar 04 1992 14:0050
3 Games from the 1st division last night:

	Palace, Forest & Villa all move up a place or 2, but Leeds fail to
leap frog over Man U after a nervous performance against Villa. 

I heard the last 30 minutes on Radio 5, and from what I heard Leeds could & 
should have put the game out of Villa's reach in the 1st half, but failed.
Villa came out in the 2nd with all cylinders firing, and had Leeds against the
wall for about half an hour. Only in the last 10-15 minutes did any urgency come
into Leeds game, and they bombarded the Villa penalty area, but without any
reward. Cantona had a couple of greatt efforts well saved by Spink.

	The Palace/ Forest game could have been 5-5 but for bad finishing & 
dogged defending.

	Southampton move off the bottom and are replaced by West Ham after 64th 
minute Iain Dowie header gave Saints the points. Saw the goal on TV and it was 
a great move. That's 7 games without defeat for the Saints. Could they do a 
Luton Town great escape???


       Crystal Palace     0  -  0    Nottingham For     
       Leeds Utd.         0  -  0    Aston Villa        
       Southampton        1  -  0    West Ham Utd.      


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 30   17   11    2   51   22   62   29 
   2 Leeds Utd.               31   16   13    2   55   24   61   31 
   3 Man City                 31   15    8    8   45   35   53   10 
   4 Sheffield Wed.           30   15    8    7   49   41   53    8 
   5 Liverpool                30   12   13    5   35   27   49    8 
   6 Arsenal                  30   11   11    8   51   35   44   16 
   7 Aston Villa              31   12    6   13   35   35   42    0 
   8 Chelsea                  32   10   12   10   41   46   42   -5 
   9 Crystal Palace           31   10   11   10   42   51   41   -9 
  10 Everton                  30   10   10   10   39   34   40    5 
  11 Norwich City             30   10   10   10   40   41   40   -1 
  12 Wimbledon                30    9   11   10   36   36   38    0 
  13 Oldham Athletic          31   10    7   14   45   50   37   -5 
  14 QPR                      31    7   15    9   30   36   36   -6 
  15 Nottingham For           28    9    8   11   42   42   35    0 
  16 Tottenham Hotspur        28   10    5   13   36   36   35    0 
  17 Coventry City            29    9    7   13   28   29   34   -1 
  18 Sheffield Utd.           30    9    7   14   44   50   34   -6 
  19 Notts County             29    7    8   14   30   40   29  -10 
  20 Luton Town               31    7    8   16   25   55   29  -30 
  21 Southampton              30    6   10   14   28   45   28  -17 
  22 West Ham Utd.            29    6    9   14   26   43   27  -17 
13.159Paid too much.WELCLU::BWALKERCome on you Hatters.Wed Mar 04 1992 17:579
    Barry.
    Re .157.
    
    I would much rather they start by getting the salaries down to a
    realistic level.
    
    Regs,
    
    Barry.
13.160What's a goal????FORTY2::ROBERTSONMy Sorrows learnt to swimThu Mar 05 1992 13:5715
Yet another 0 - 0 draw last night.

There aren't that many going around the 1st division this week

.....

You mean you want the teams.

Ok

Coventry v Norwich

That's 4 goalless draws in a row for Coventry.

Al
13.161Results & Table 7th Mar 1992 - Leeds back on topFORTY2::ROBERTSONMy Sorrows, they learnt to swimMon Mar 09 1992 13:3432
       Everton            2  -  1    Oldham Athletic    
       Luton Town         1  -  1    Crystal Palace     
       QPR                4  -  0    Man City           
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  1    Coventry City      
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  3    Leeds Utd.         
       Wimbledon          2  -  0    Notts County       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Leeds Utd.               32   17   13    2   58   25   64   33 
   2 Man Utd.                 30   17   11    2   51   22   62   29 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           31   15    9    7   50   42   54    8 
   4 Man City                 32   15    8    9   45   39   53    6 
   5 Liverpool                30   12   13    5   35   27   49    8 
   6 Arsenal                  30   11   11    8   51   35   44   16 
   7 Everton                  31   11   10   10   41   35   43    6 
   8 Aston Villa              31   12    6   13   35   35   42    0 
   9 Chelsea                  32   10   12   10   41   46   42   -5 
  10 Crystal Palace           32   10   12   10   43   52   42   -9 
  11 Wimbledon                31   10   11   10   38   36   41    2 
  12 Norwich City             31   10   11   10   40   41   41   -1 
  13 QPR                      32    8   15    9   34   36   39   -2 
  14 Oldham Athletic          32   10    7   15   46   52   37   -6 
  15 Coventry City            31    9    9   13   29   30   36   -1 
  16 Nottingham For           28    9    8   11   42   42   35    0 
  17 Tottenham Hotspur        29   10    5   14   37   39   35   -2 
  18 Sheffield Utd.           30    9    7   14   44   50   34   -6 
  19 Luton Town               32    7    9   16   26   56   30  -30 
  20 Notts County             30    7    8   15   30   42   29  -12 
  21 Southampton              30    6   10   14   28   45   28  -17 
  22 West Ham Utd.            29    6    9   14   26   43   27  -17 
13.162Some midweek games!!!FORTY2::ROBERTSONMy Sorrows, they learnt to swimWed Mar 11 1992 13:2210
Yet another high scoring set of fixtures in the 1st Division last night.

	Arsenal 2 - 1 Oldham
	Notts C 0 - 0 Aston Villa
	Wombles 0 - 0 Everton

There's another wad of games on this evening so I'll put in the updated table
tomorrow ( with Leeds (Leeds Leeds) 5 points ahead )

Al
13.163Spurs for the drop ?BAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th's trouble at t'millWed Mar 11 1992 17:5013
  Spurs look to be in trouble, if they lose to Luton an Saturday, they will
    be in trouble. My three for the drop are West Ham, Spurs and Luton /
    Notts County - I expect Soton to escape. nb Spurs' last game at Old
    Trafford could be a relegation / championship issue.
    
    17 Tottenham Hotspur        29   10    5   14   37   39   35   -2 
  18 Sheffield Utd.           30    9    7   14   44   50   34   -6 
  19 Luton Town               32    7    9   16   26   56   30  -30 
  20 Notts County             30    7    8   15   30   42   29  -12 
  21 Southampton              30    6   10   14   28   45   28  -17 
  22 West Ham Utd.            29    6    9   14   26   43   27  -17 
    
    jb.
13.164All still to play forPANIC::ANDERSONThe 'Pies have gone coldWed Mar 11 1992 18:1877
	jb.            
    
    The following lists the remaining fixtures for all the bottom 10 clubs
    in the First Division, with a guestimate of the outcomes.
    
    If all goes to [my] plan then Southampton, Luton, and West Ham go down,
    with County avoiding the drop by one point [But then I would make sure
    it worked out that way wouldn't I :-)]
    
          Southampton        West Ham           Luton
          ~~~~~~~~~~~        ~~~~~~~~           ~~~~~ 
Current points           28                 27                 30
 11.3.92  Palace (H)       3 Liverpool (A)    0 Spurs (H)        1
 14.3.92  Man City (A)     0 Arsenal (H)      3 Everton (A)      0
 21.3.92  Luton (H)        1 QPR (H)          1 Southampton (A)  1
 28.3.92  Everton (A)      0 Leeds (A)        0 Forest (H)       0
  4.4.92  QPR (H)          1 Chelsea (A)      1 Wimbledon (H)    1
 11.4.92  Man Utd (A)      0 Norwich (H)      0 Oldham (A)       0
 18.4.92  Sheff Wed (H)    0 Man City (A)     0 Man Utd (H)      0
 20.4.92  Wimbledon (A)    1 Palace (H)       3 QPR (A)          1
 25.4.92  Oldham (H)       3 Coventry (A)     1 Villa (H)        1
  2.5.92  Arsenal (A)      0 Forest (H)       1 County (A)       0
     TBA  ? Chelsea (A)    3 ? Man Utd (H)    1
     TBA  ? Forest (H)     1 ? Tottenham (A)  1
     TBA                     ? Sheff Wed (H)  1
Final points              41                 40                 35
 
          Forest             Tottenham          QPR
          ~~~~~~             ~~~~~~~~~          ~~~ 
Current points            34                 35                 39
 11.3.92  Coventry (A)     3 Luton (A)        1 Leeds (H)        1
 14.3.92  Norwich (H)      0 Sheff Wed (H)    1 Villa (A)        0
 21.3.92  Man City (H)     1 Liverpool (A)    1 West Ham(A)      1
 28.3.92  Luton (A)        3 Coventry (H)     3 Man Utd (H)      0
  4.4.92  Sheff Wed (H)    1 Villa (H)        0 Southampton (A)  1
 11.4.92  Wimbledon (A)    3 QPR (A)          3 Spurs (H)        0
 18.4.92  Villa (H)        0 Wimbledon (H)    1 Chelsea (A)      1
 20.4.92  Man Utd (A)      3 Oldham (A)       0 Luton (H)        1
 25.4.92  QPR (H)          3 Everton (H)      0 Forest (A)       0
  2.5.92  West Ham (A)     1 Man Utd (A)      1 Palace (H)       3
     TBA  ? Palace (A)     1 County (A)       1
     TBA  ? Arsenal (A)    3 ? Sheff Utd (A)  1
     TBA  ? Southampton(A  1 ? West Ham (H)   1
     TBA  ? Liverpool (H)  3
     TBA  ? ??? (H)        1
Final points              61                 49                 47
 
          Notts County       Sheff Utd          Coventry
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~       ~~~~~~~~~          ~~~~~~~~
 Current points           30                 34                 36
 11.3.92                     Sheff Wed (A)    0 Forest (H)       0
 14.3.92  Oldham (A)       0 Man Utd (H)      0 Chelsea (A)      0
 21.3.92  Sheff Wed (A)    0 Chelsea (A)      0 Oldham (H)       0
 28.3.92  Palace (H)       1 Liverpool (H)    1 Spurs (A)        1
  4.4.92  Liverpool (A)    0 Oldham (H)       1 Arsenal (H)      1
 11.4.92  Coventry (H)     3 Everton (A)      0 County (A)       0
 18.4.92  Norwich (A)      0 Arsenal (H)      3 Everton (H)      3
 20.4.92  Sheff Utd (H)    3 County (A)       0 Leeds (A)        0
 25.4.92  Man City (A)     0 Leeds (H)        0 West Ham (H)     0
  2.5.92  Luton (H)        3 Wimbledon (A)    3 Villa (A)        3
     TBA  Everton (H)      1 ? Spurs (H)      1 ? Norwich (H)    1
     TBA  Spurs (H)        1 ? Villa (A)      0
 Final points             42                 43                 45
 
          Oldham
          ~~~~~~
 Current points           37
 14.3.92  County (H)       3
 21.3.92  Coventry (A)     1
 28.3.92  Sheff Wed (H)    0
  4.4.92  Sheff Utd (A)    1
 11.4.92  Luton (H)        3
 18.4.92  Palace (A)       1
 20.4.92  Spurs (H)        3
 25.4.92  Southampton (A)  0
  2.5.92  Man City (H)     1
 Final points             50
13.165That's the kiss of death then!BEAGLE::CAMPBELLReal ponies don't go oink!Wed Mar 11 1992 19:209
    I will state here and now in front of the world (well, whoever reads
    this conference anyway) that Spurs will NOT be relegated at the end of
    this season. They will play their way out of it by beating other teams
    and accumulating points!
    
    My three for the drop are Luton, West Ham and Southampton.
    
    Stevo
    
13.166More Midweek results plus tableFORTY2::ROBERTSONMy Sorrows, they learned to swimThu Mar 12 1992 13:5449
       Coventry City      0  -  2    Nottingham For
					Smith (og), Sheringham
     
       Liverpool          1  -  0    West Ham Utd.
	Saunders      

       Luton Town         0  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur 
 
       Norwich City       0  -  1    Chelsea 
					Dixon 
          
       QPR                4  -  1    Leeds Utd. 	:-(
	Ferdinand			Speed
	Allen, Sinton    		(Whyte Sent Off)    
	Wilson (Pen)

       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  3    Sheffield Utd.     
	King				Whitehouse, Davison (2)

       Southampton        1  -  0    Crystal Palace     
	Le Tissier




        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Leeds Utd.               33   17   13    3   59   29   64   30 
   2 Man Utd.                 30   17   11    2   51   22   62   29 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           32   15    9    8   51   45   54    6 
   4 Man City                 32   15    8    9   45   39   53    6 
   5 Liverpool                31   13   13    5   36   27   52    9 
   6 Arsenal                  31   12   11    8   53   36   47   17 
   7 Chelsea                  33   11   12   10   42   46   45   -4 
   8 Everton                  32   11   11   10   41   35   44    6 
   9 Aston Villa              32   12    7   13   35   35   43    0 
  10 Wimbledon                32   10   12   10   38   36   42    2 
  11 QPR                      33    9   15    9   38   37   42    1 
  12 Crystal Palace           33   10   12   11   43   53   42  -10 
  13 Norwich City             32   10   11   11   40   42   41   -2 
  14 Nottingham For           29   10    8   11   44   42   38    2 
  15 Sheffield Utd.           31   10    7   14   47   51   37   -4 
  16 Oldham Athletic          33   10    7   16   47   54   37   -7 
  17 Tottenham Hotspur        30   10    6   14   37   39   36   -2 
  18 Coventry City            32    9    9   14   29   32   36   -3 
  19 Southampton              31    7   10   14   29   45   31  -16 
  20 Luton Town               33    7   10   16   26   56   31  -30 
  21 Notts County             31    7    9   15   30   42   30  -12 
  22 West Ham Utd.            30    6    9   15   26   44   27  -18 
13.167BEAGLE::CAMPBELLReal ponies don't go oink!Thu Mar 12 1992 18:1611
    Lutow 0 - Spurs 0
    
    >I will state here and now in front of the world (well, whoever reads
    >this conference anyway) that Spurs will NOT be relegated at the end of
    >this season. They will play their way out of it by beating other teams
    >and accumulating points!
    
    Please read "PROBABLY" in front of "NOT", and "TRY TO" in front of "PLAY".
    
    
    	Stevo
13.168Results & table 14/15 MarFORTY2::ROBERTSONMy Sorrows, they learned to swimMon Mar 16 1992 13:4370
It's Monday morning and it's time for the 1st Div results again:

	Sat 14th March

       Aston Villa        0  -  1    QPR                
       Chelsea            0  -  1    Coventry City      
       Crystal Palace     1  -  0    Liverpool          
       Everton            1  -  1    Luton Town         
       Leeds Utd.         5  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Nottingham For     2  -  0    Norwich City       
       Oldham Athletic    4  -  3    Notts County       
       Sheffield Utd.     1  -  2    Man Utd.           
       Tottenham Hotspur  0  -  2    Sheffield Wed.     
       West Ham Utd.      0  -  2    Arsenal 

	The Ides of March (15th)
           
       Man City           0  -  1    Southampton        


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Leeds Utd.               34   18   13    3   64   30   67   34 
   2 Man Utd.                 31   18   11    2   53   23   65   30 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           33   16    9    8   53   45   57    8 
   4 Man City                 33   15    8   10   45   40   53    5 
   5 Liverpool                32   13   13    6   36   28   52    8 
   6 Arsenal                  32   13   11    8   55   36   50   19 
   7 Everton                  33   11   12   10   42   36   45    6 
   8 QPR                      34   10   15    9   39   37   45    2 
   9 Chelsea                  34   11   12   11   42   47   45   -5 
  10 Crystal Palace           34   11   12   11   44   53   45   -9 
  11 Aston Villa              33   12    7   14   35   36   43   -1 
  12 Wimbledon                33   10   12   11   39   41   42   -2 
  13 Nottingham For           30   11    8   11   46   42   41    4 
  14 Norwich City             33   10   11   12   40   44   41   -4 
  15 Oldham Athletic          34   11    7   16   51   57   40   -6 
  16 Coventry City            33   10    9   14   30   32   39   -2 
  17 Sheffield Utd.           32   10    7   15   48   53   37   -5 
  18 Tottenham Hotspur        31   10    6   15   37   41   36   -4 
  19 Southampton              32    8   10   14   30   45   34  -15 
  20 Luton Town               34    7   11   16   27   57   32  -30 
  21 Notts County             32    7    9   16   33   46   30  -13 
  22 West Ham Utd.            31    6    9   16   26   46   27  -20 

At 3:30 on Saturday it was all smiles & Brian Deane was my hero at the moment.
Leeds total was steadily climbing and The Mancs were losing :-)
Then 4:15, and a muttered "Oh!!" as I checked the scores again. McClair had
equalised :-| and the Wombles had got one back ( Could this be another
Southampton?? ).
At 4:30 I completed the sentence I'd started at quarter past "@$%#". Must have
been Fergusons worst decision of the season, bringing on Blackmore ( ;-) )
2-1 to Utd   :-(. 
However, there was light at the end of the tunnel, as the white machine had got
another two up at Elland Rd. :-)

The Mancs seem to be getting a lot of luck at the moment, and it looks like the
defeat at QPR has given Leeds the kick up the A**e they needed. It's going to be
another classic end to the season.

It looks like only Wednesday have any chances of spoiling the Utds fun, with
both Liverpool and Man City losing. Man City certainly didn't look like a team
in 4th place in their live game yesterday, however the Saints looked better than
their placing. If they continue to play like that they should stay up.

The Totts are definitely looking relegation candidates.

Stevo, fancy changing .167 again ;-)

	Al
13.169What have I done to deserve this?UTRUST::CAMPBELLReal ponies don't go oink!Tue Mar 17 1992 14:3114
    Spurs 0 - Owls 2
    
    >I will state here and now in front of the world (well, whoever reads
    >>this conference anyway) that Spurs will NOT be relegated at the end of
    >>this season. They will play their way out of it by beating other teams
    >>and accumulating points!
    >
    >Please read "PROBABLY" in front of "NOT", and "TRY TO" in front of "PLAY".
    >
   
    Please change "PROBABLY" to "POSSIBLY", and "WILL" to "MIGHT"
     
    	Stevo
    
13.170Result & Table 21st/22nd MarFORTY2::ROBERTSONMy Sorrows, they learned to swimMon Mar 23 1992 14:0253
	Sat 21st Mar

       Chelsea            1  -  2    Sheffield Utd.     
       Coventry City      1  -  1    Oldham Athletic    
       Crystal Palace     0  -  0    Aston Villa        
       Liverpool          2  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Man Utd.           0  -  0    Wimbledon          
       Norwich City       4  -  3    Everton            
       Nottingham For     2  -  0    Man City           
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  0    Notts County       
       Southampton        2  -  1    Luton Town         
       West Ham Utd.      2  -  2    QPR                


	Sun 22nd Mar

       Arsenal            1  -  1    Leeds Utd.         


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Leeds Utd.               35   18   14    3   65   31   68   34 
   2 Man Utd.                 33   18   12    3   53   24   66   29 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           34   17    9    8   54   45   60    9 
   4 Liverpool                33   14   13    6   38   29   55    9 
   5 Man City                 34   15    8   11   45   42   53    3 
   6 Arsenal                  33   13   12    8   56   37   51   19 
   7 Nottingham For           32   13    8   11   49   42   47    7 
   8 Everton                  35   11   13   11   45   40   46    5 
   9 QPR                      35   10   16    9   41   39   46    2 
  10 Crystal Palace           35   11   13   11   44   53   46   -9 
  11 Chelsea                  35   11   12   12   43   49   45   -6 
  12 Aston Villa              34   12    8   14   35   36   44   -1 
  13 Norwich City             34   11   11   12   44   47   44   -3 
  14 Wimbledon                34   10   13   11   39   41   43   -2 
  15 Oldham Athletic          35   11    8   16   52   58   41   -6 
  16 Coventry City            34   10   10   14   31   33   40   -2 
  17 Sheffield Utd.           33   11    7   15   50   54   40   -4 
  18 Southampton              33    9   10   14   32   46   37  -14 
  19 Tottenham Hotspur        32   10    6   16   38   43   36   -5 
  20 Luton Town               35    7   11   17   28   59   32  -31 
  21 Notts County             34    7   10   17   33   47   31  -14 
  22 West Ham Utd.            32    6   10   16   28   48   28  -20 

Highlights:

	Sheffield Wednesday are getting a little too close for comfort. Only 6
points behind Man Utd. Tottenham are getting into deep trouble. They need to put
some results together. However, saying that they're not getting any luck at the
moment. Just look at Liverpool's winner. Forest have gone from 16th to 7th in
just over a week. Gives some hope to the bottom clubs.

	AAl
13.171Euro places ?BAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th's trouble at t'millMon Mar 23 1992 15:2311
    Very tight at the top, the pressure is mounting on the Mancs. How many
    European places are up for grabs at the end of the season ?
    
    Euro Cup - League Winners
    Cup Winner's Cup -  FA Cup Winners
    UEFA Cup - Rum Cup Winners
    
    Any more ?  It could be that there aren't any European places for teams
    finishing 2nd in the League, so no Mancs in Europe next season.
    
    jb.
13.1722 places in UEFA ??FORTY2::ROBERTSONMy Sorrows, they learned to swimMon Mar 23 1992 17:488
I thought there were 2 UEFA Cup places this year, in which case Man U would
probably manage to get one.

I know it's not going to happen ( Please ), but what would happen if Man U won
the Rumbelows Cup & The league? Would Forest take the UEFA place for the
Rumbelows cup, or would it go to the next highest placed team in the league??

	Al
13.173Rumbles - no wayFUTURS::FLETCHERMon Mar 23 1992 18:209
    Since when has it been decided that the rumbles winner is going to get
    a uefa place. L'pool got in last year by league pos - league poss will
    count again this year as far as I know.
    
    Question: IF Man U win the league this year - Has Robbo Cop played in
    enough games yet to get a medal (If I put this in the Man U note they
    would only start moaning - you know how touchy they are at the moment)
    
    Nigel
13.174Euro spotsXSTACY::KMCGRATHMon Mar 23 1992 19:269
I'm sure I heard somewhere before that a rumbles win gives a UEFA spot.
I don't know if the english league is to get 1 or 2 places next year.
All sorts of contortions are possible....depending what Man united decide 
to keep or throw away this year. It would be nice if someone had some definite 
information.

Is there anybody out there?

 - Kev
13.175Aldershot F.C. R.I.P.FORTY2::ROBERTSONMy Sorrows, they learned to swimFri Mar 27 1992 13:4017
13.176sad day for footballKERNEL::HAWLEYIooh look! its Rob Jones!!!Fri Mar 27 1992 14:075
    Al,
    does this mean that all the people who beat them lose 3 points per
    game?
    any clubs that lost to Aldershot must be thanking their lucky stars!
    Ian.
13.177re -1BAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th's trouble at t'millFri Mar 27 1992 14:196
    re The Shots :-
    
    Their record is 'expunged', Doncaster are now bottom, Burnley are now
    top on goal difference from Blackpool with a game in hand.
    
    jb.
13.178WHYMINDER::MACDONALDIMUFC ECWC ChampionsFri Mar 27 1992 14:3515
    WHY ???
    
    Why have Aldershot gone under? - because they owe 1.2 million quid.
    
    Now why didn't one of the bigger clubs help them out, I mean 1.2 million
    to teams like Utd, Liverpool etc... or even a hundred thousand from
    each First Division team would maybe have saved Aldershot going bump.
    
    Just look how much a player costs nowadays (1-5 million) and there you
    could have bought about 15 player, a ground etc...
    
    Only my opinion.
    
    P.S. I thought Ken Bates might have moved in, as a new home for
    Chelsea. :)
13.179...KERNEL::HAWLEYIooh look! its Rob Jones!!!Fri Mar 27 1992 14:408
    
    perhaps there would be some validity in the setting up of a football
    trust where each premier division club would pay a certain amount into
    a fund each year to be used to help support lower clubs in times of
    crisis.
    
    Ian.
    
13.180I think it's law in Germany.ARRODS::OHAGANBlOnDoN cALlInGFri Mar 27 1992 16:387
    
    re .last
    
    The idea of a trust works within the Bundersliga, I think. Perhaps
    one of our German noters can confirm this?
    
    barry.
13.181????HAM::SCHARNBERGZo fo Draziw (jun.)Fri Mar 27 1992 16:4316
    
    No.
    
    A lot of clubs had to be sold out and relegated to the premier amateur
    division (3rd Division, i.e. Oberliga)
    
    Schalke 04
    FC St.Pauli
    RW Essen
    Hertha BSC (?)
    MSV Duisburg (?)
    
    I have never heard of a trust to save clubs-in-need.
    
    Heiko
    
13.182Remember the 17 year chairman ?BLKPUD::WATTERSONPAs happy as a pig in shFri Mar 27 1992 18:2613
    
    Why should there be a trust to bail out 'lame dog' clubs like
    Aldershot ?
    
    I heard on the news today that the police are investigating the club
    finances, so someone was obviously on the fiddle. If Aldershot weren't
    riddled with corruption, someone/ some mug would have stepped in and
    bought them.
    
    Good riddance... even the locals weren't prepared to support them in
    high numbers, why should the rest of the league waste money on them.
    
    Paul
13.183more to English football than the big 5GALVIA::SPAINThere's always the U.S.Fri Mar 27 1992 18:549
    
    Re -1, I don't think the big clubs should have to bail aldershot out
    but steps should be taken to ensure that more clubs don't go the same
    route.  It's sad to see them die and the game at all levels will be the
    poorer.  Many of today's stars came through the ranks of the smaller
    clubs.  Many of the 3rd and 4th division clubs are in financial
    trouble and they should not be allowed to die.
    
    Gary.
13.184Anyone for the last 2 strikers.....RTOEU::RDELANEYAnd in trap 7 tonight we have......Fri Mar 27 1992 19:113
    What happens to the players ? Are they now free agents ?
    
    	- Robin
13.185BLKPUD::WATTERSONPAs happy as a pig in shFri Mar 27 1992 19:3710
    
    re .183
    
    I don't see why lame ducks shouldn't be able to go out of existance,
    it's not as if there aren't enough good well run clubs in non-League
    football that can't replace them.
    
    Barnet for example.
    
    Paul
13.186Need to become semi-professionalIOSG::BUTTONFri Mar 27 1992 20:1415
13.187Cardiff played them lastAIMTEC::WICKS_AVote Bill'n'Opus for a weirder USASat Mar 28 1992 03:3314
    Interesting ... there's an article in the SUnday paper (U.K) about
    Cardiff paying 2,000 pounds to bail out Aldershot last week so that
    they (cardiff) could play Aldershot on Friday night which Cardiff won
    2-0.
    
    On Accrington Stanley being the last team to go under I guess
    that's technically tru however only a few years ago Newport County were
    wound up but I suppose the difference is they made it to the end of the
    season and their points counted.
    
    Regards,
                  
    Andrew.D.Wicks
    
13.188Results coming soon!!FORTY2::ROBERTSONMy Sorrows, they learned to swimMon Mar 30 1992 14:318
Andrew,

	Newport County were actually relegated from the football league before
they were finally wound up, as I remember them playing in the Vauxhall Conf.

	As you said Accrington S. were the last to be wound up mid season.

Al
13.189And here they are....FORTY2::ROBERTSONMy Sorrows, they learned to swimMon Mar 30 1992 15:1648
League Division 1  Saturday 28th March

       Aston Villa        1  -  0    Norwich City       
       Leeds Utd.         0  -  0    West Ham Utd.      
       Man City           0  -  0    Chelsea            
       Notts County       2  -  3    Crystal Palace     
       Oldham Athletic    3  -  0    Sheffield Wed.     
       QPR                0  -  0    Man Utd.           
       Sheffield Utd.     2  -  0    Liverpool          
       Tottenham Hotspur  4  -  3    Coventry City      
       Wimbledon          1  -  3    Arsenal            





        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Leeds Utd.               36   18   15    3   65   31   69   34 
   2 Man Utd.                 34   18   13    3   53   24   67   29 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           35   17    9    9   54   48   60    6 
   4 Liverpool                34   14   13    7   38   31   55    7 
   5 Arsenal                  34   14   12    8   59   38   54   21 
   6 Man City                 35   15    9   11   45   42   54    3 
   7 Crystal Palace           36   12   13   11   47   55   49   -8 
   8 Nottingham For           32   13    8   11   49   42   47    7 
   9 QPR                      36   10   17    9   41   39   47    2 
  10 Aston Villa              35   13    8   14   36   36   47    0 
  11 Everton                  35   11   13   11   45   40   46    5 
  12 Chelsea                  36   11   13   12   43   49   46   -6 
  13 Oldham Athletic          36   12    8   16   55   58   44   -3 
  14 Norwich City             35   11   11   13   44   48   44   -4 
  15 Sheffield Utd.           34   12    7   15   52   54   43   -2 
  16 Wimbledon                35   10   13   12   40   44   43   -4 
  17 Coventry City            35   10   10   15   34   37   40   -3 
  18 Tottenham Hotspur        33   11    6   16   42   46   39   -4 
  19 Southampton              33    9   10   14   32   46   37  -14 
  20 Luton Town               35    7   11   17   28   59   32  -31 
  21 Notts County             35    7   10   18   35   50   31  -15 
  22 West Ham Utd.            33    6   11   16   28   48   29  -20 


	Sunday 29th March


ZDS Cup Final at Wembley

	Nottingham Forest 3 - 2  Southampton	AET
13.190Man U go back to the top of the stackFORTY2::ROBERTSONMy Sorrows, they learned to swimWed Apr 01 1992 15:0344
	Results from Tues 31-Mar

       Arsenal            3  -  3    Nottingham For     
       Aston Villa        1  -  1    Sheffield Utd.     
       Liverpool          4  -  0    Notts County       
       Norwich City       1  -  3    Man Utd.           


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 35   19   13    3   56   25   70   31 
   2 Leeds Utd.               36   18   15    3   65   31   69   34 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           35   17    9    9   54   48   60    6 
   4 Liverpool                35   15   13    7   42   31   58   11 
   5 Arsenal                  35   14   13    8   62   41   55   21 
   6 Man City                 35   15    9   11   45   42   54    3 
   7 Crystal Palace           36   12   13   11   47   55   49   -8 
   8 Nottingham For           33   13    9   11   52   45   48    7 
   9 Aston Villa              36   13    9   14   37   37   48    0 
  10 QPR                      36   10   17    9   41   39   47    2 
  11 Everton                  35   11   13   11   45   40   46    5 
  12 Chelsea                  36   11   13   12   43   49   46   -6 
  13 Sheffield Utd.           35   12    8   15   53   55   44   -2 
  14 Oldham Athletic          36   12    8   16   55   58   44   -3 
  15 Norwich City             36   11   11   14   45   51   44   -6 
  16 Wimbledon                35   10   13   12   40   44   43   -4 
  17 Coventry City            35   10   10   15   34   37   40   -3 
  18 Tottenham Hotspur        33   11    6   16   42   46   39   -4 
  19 Southampton              33    9   10   14   32   46   37  -14 
  20 Luton Town               35    7   11   17   28   59   32  -31 
  21 Notts County             36    7   10   19   35   54   31  -19 
  22 West Ham Utd.            33    6   11   16   28   48   29  -20 


	Looks like the Arsenal game had pretty much the same ingredients as the 
Live match back in December. Forest look comfortable, they were 3-1 up, and then
Arsenal rally in the last 10 minutes. This time they managed to salvage a point.

	It's looking pretty ominous for the bottom 3 now. At least 5 points
adrift, and with the exception of West Ham, having played 2/3 more games.

	It's still very open at the top and will probably go to the last game.

	Al
13.191Bottom 3 are almost home and dry !!!!FORTY2::ROBERTSONMy Sorrows, they learned to swimThu Apr 02 1992 14:3029
Last Night there were two crucial relegation matches played.

The results:

       Everton            0  -  1    Southampton        
       Tottenham Hotspur  3  -  0    West Ham Utd.      


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

  .
  .
  .
  .
  11 Everton                  36   11   13   12   45   41   46    4 
  12 Chelsea                  36   11   13   12   43   49   46   -6 
  13 Sheffield Utd.           35   12    8   15   53   55   44   -2 
  14 Oldham Athletic          36   12    8   16   55   58   44   -3 
  15 Norwich City             36   11   11   14   45   51   44   -6 
  16 Wimbledon                35   10   13   12   40   44   43   -4 
  17 Tottenham Hotspur        34   12    6   16   45   46   42   -1 
  18 Coventry City            35   10   10   15   34   37   40   -3 
  19 Southampton              34   10   10   14   33   46   40  -13 
  20 Luton Town               35    7   11   17   28   59   32  -31 
  21 Notts County             36    7   10   19   35   54   31  -19 
  22 West Ham Utd.            34    6   11   17   28   51   29  -23 

	The bottom 3 are in even worse trouble now than they were yesterday. 8
points is a lot when there are only 6/7 games left.
13.192To Strike or not to strike??? That is the question!FORTY2::ROBERTSONMy Sorrows, they learned to swimFri Apr 03 1992 13:3631
There was one game last night. Yes I know they don't usually have games on
thursday, but the powers that be ......

Anyway Forest played their 3rd game in 5 days and not surprisingly were too
tired to pose any real threat to the Wombles who ran out 3-0 winners, which
helped them jump from 16th to 12th.

Other matters:

As I haven't seen any news to the contrary over the last few days:-

Today is the day of the players ballot on whether to strike over the TV rights
discussion that's been raging for a few weeks. The PFA want 10% but the League
only want to offer 5%.

The rest of the season could drag on well into the summer if this issue isn't 
resolved quickly and (D.I.S.A.S.T.E.R. F.O.R. E.N.G.L.A.N.D.) that could spell
disaster for England ( Taken from the Mary Whitehouse Experience last week!!)
in the European Championships.

IMO:

Why shouldn't the players Union get more of a cut. After all if it wasn't for
the players there wouldn't be a sport!!! And it goes to help all players, not
just those in the top flight. And it would appear that the League have gone back
on their word, as a few weeks ago they were willing to negotiate, now it's a
case of take it or leave it!!!

Let's get out of the boardrooms and back onto the football fields.

	Al
13.193What's Gordon Taylor got to gain out of all this?TRUCKS::SANTanother day in paradise?Fri Apr 03 1992 14:5015
    
    	I agree with you to the extent of saying "why shouldn't the Union
    	get more of a cut?" , but I am a little suspicious of Gordon
    	Taylor's motives. I suspect that the issue is being driven by
    	Mr.Taylor for his own ends, and in doing so is prepared to use
    	the threat of player strike action in achieving them. I think he
    	began this somewhat personal campaign with the Players' Union
    	at heart, but has become clouded with an utmost desire to force
    	the League to bow to his view, and seems reluctant to reach any
    	form of compromise. I've lost a little respect for Gordon Taylor,
    	though still expect him to do the right thing - eventually.

    	jmho..
    
    	Andy.
13.194SUBURB::INV_LIBRARYWho hell he?!?Fri Apr 03 1992 16:519
    
    I believe that Gordon Taylor is doing what union rep. should do, namely
    attempting to get the best deal for his members. Unfortunately the new
    premier league has brought out the worst in football chairman, as they
    scrabble over themselves to get a cut of the increased wealth. Their
    contemptuous attitude towards the players, however, may see them come
    unstuck, since in most instances the supporters will side with them.
    
    jeff 
13.195BLKPUD::WATTERSONPAs happy as a pig in shSat Apr 04 1992 19:477
    
    Final score from Maine Rd
    
    Man City    4-0    Leeds
    
    
    Paul
13.196Results & Table 4th AprFORTY2::ROBERTSONMy Sorrows, they learned to swimMon Apr 06 1992 13:1348
       Chelsea            2  -  1    West Ham Utd.      
       Coventry City      0  -  1    Arsenal            
       Crystal Palace     2  -  0    Everton            
       Luton Town         2  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Man City           4  -  0    Leeds Utd.    	:-(     
       Nottingham For     0  -  2    Sheffield Wed.     
       Sheffield Utd.     2  -  0    Oldham Athletic    
       Southampton        2  -  1    QPR                
       Tottenham Hotspur  2  -  5    Aston Villa        


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 35   19   13    3   56   25   70   31 
   2 Leeds Utd.               37   18   15    4   65   35   69   30 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           36   18    9    9   56   48   63    8 
   4 Arsenal                  36   15   13    8   63   41   58   22 
   5 Liverpool                35   15   13    7   42   31   58   11 
   6 Man City                 36   16    9   11   49   42   57    7 
   7 Crystal Palace           37   13   13   11   49   55   52   -6 
   8 Aston Villa              37   14    9   14   42   39   51    3 
   9 Chelsea                  37   12   13   12   45   50   49   -5 
  10 Nottingham For           35   13    9   13   52   50   48    2 
  11 QPR                      37   10   17   10   42   41   47    1 
  12 Sheffield Utd.           36   13    8   15   55   55   47    0 
  13 Everton                  37   11   13   13   45   43   46    2 
  14 Wimbledon                37   11   13   13   44   46   46   -2 
  15 Oldham Athletic          37   12    8   17   55   60   44   -5 
  16 Norwich City             36   11   11   14   45   51   44   -6 
  17 Southampton              35   11   10   14   35   47   43  -12 
  18 Tottenham Hotspur        35   12    6   17   47   51   42   -4 
  19 Coventry City            36   10   10   16   34   38   40   -4 
  20 Luton Town               36    8   11   17   30   60   35  -30 
  21 Notts County             36    7   10   19   35   54   31  -19 
  22 West Ham Utd.            35    6   11   18   29   53   29  -24 

	The betting shops have now stopped taking bets on Man Utd to win.

Leeds have to hope that Man City can do it over their neighbours too, otherwise
the race could be over.

Bottom 3 now look doomed, although Spurs seem to be doing their best to join
them. Leading 2-0 then going down 5-2. tut tut.

Forest paid the price of playing 4 games in 6 days. They're not supermen. They
should have been able to play one of those games later on in the season.

	Al
13.197Fair shares for all.WELCLU::BWALKERCome on you Hatters.Wed Apr 08 1992 15:1125
    I take great offence a the arrogance of Mr Watterson whom I believe
    supports one of the BIG FIVE (Ha Ha) Everton.
    
    If the big clubs are not willing to help "football" but supporting in
    some fashion the smaller clubs. Why should they then behave like a
    greedy bunch of bully boys over the TV dosh. I certainly would not put
    Everton in as a BIG Five Club on current form, and Tottenham for that
    matter. I wonder how long the likes of Spurs and Everton would last as
    a force (joke) in football if they had not received such an exorbitant
    share of the live TV money dolled out in recent years. Which
    incidentally has bored the socks off of other football fans who do not
    support the likes of Arse, Spurs, Liverpool, Everton and Man U.
    Remember it was then Everton chairman Peter Carter whom was
    negoitiating behind the bascks of the smaller clubs the TV deal of
    years past. Talk about a vested interest.
    
    Remember Mr Watterson. When a noter says that the big clubs should bail
    out the smaller ones. They do not mean charity, what they mean is that
    the big clubs should only recieve their fair share of the TV money,
    which would leave a bigger slice for them.
    
    Regards,
    
    
    Barry. 
13.198BLKPUD::WATTERSONPWed Apr 08 1992 16:1231
>>          <<< Note 13.197 by WELCLU::BWALKER "Come on you Hatters." >>>
>>                           -< Fair shares for all. >-

>>    I take great offence a the arrogance of Mr Watterson whom I believe
>>    supports one of the BIG FIVE (Ha Ha) Everton.
    
    Is this my arrogance in general or are you refering to my note about
    Aldershot biting the dust ?
    
    
    As for the 'big five' - I've always thought it was a bit strange to
    seperate Everton, Liverpool, Tottenham, Arsenal and Man Utd from the
    other 'big' clubs - Leeds, Aston Villa, Man City, Chelsea etc etc- but
    unfortunatly the Lutons, Notts Countys, Oxfords, Wimbledons etc etc
    will never be able to compete at the same level as the 'big however
    many' - in terms of ground, money, attendance, pulling power etc etc 
    
    Maybe the televised Liverpool Vs Everton game turns out to be a boring
    game, but more people are going to tune in and watch it than would
    watch Luton vs Watford, and that, at the end of the day is all that
    matters - the bigger clubs are always going to generate more interest
    and consequently cash than the smaller clubs and I personally don't see
    why my club, Everton, should have to subsidiss the badly run clubs such
    as Aldershot etc etc, when they could spend the money on ground
    improvements or new players.
    
    Football may have started out as just a game, but nowadays it's a
    business and if you don't balance the books, you don't survive.
    
    Paul
                               
13.199Playoff info wantedGALVIA::SPAINThere's always the U.S.Wed Apr 08 1992 17:457
    
    Anybody got the dates for the playoff semi finals and finals?  I need
    these this afternoon if possible.
    
    thanks in advance,
    
    Gary.
13.200Lets see more of the dosh.WELCLU::BWALKERCome on you Hatters.Wed Apr 08 1992 18:5136
    re. 198.
    
    You are implying that Aldershot was a badly run operation. That may be
    true. But cast your mind back to the Totteringhotspur dark days. I
    would say that the reign of Irving Scholar was a good example of a
    poorly run operation. I would say that IMHO the best run team both on
    and off the pitch is Wimbledon. I would like to see Everton manage on a
    similar income.
    You are right that perhaps the likes of Notts County, Wimbledon and
    Luton etc will never be a big club like Everton.
    Your right we wont whilst the TV contract is so favourable to the
    bigger clubs at the moment. I say that all the income should be spread
    evenly amongst the family of Football League Clubs. But then again you
    would be against that as it is probable only that income that is
    keeping the Evertons and Liverpools out of the red at the moment.
    
    If it keeps on going on like this we will land up with a league of 4
    super clubs out of the 16/18 with little competition and worst of all
    even greater salaries being paid to already over paid players. Remember
    the Aldershots have as much right to play in the league as Everton, and
    would have still been in it had perhaps the greed of the big clubs been
    curtailed. 
    
    In as much Mr Watterson the rest of the League clubs are sponsoring the
    Big Five. Without the other 90 or so clubs you have not got a league.
    Well you have you could play each other 15 times a season and enter the
    cups at the semi final stage. How exciting.
    
    Or do you really want League football to be played in Liverpool, Manchester
    and North london only.
    
    
    Regards,
    
    Barry.
           
13.201BLKPUD::WATTERSONPWed Apr 08 1992 19:2228
    
    Barry, 
    
    - please stop calling me Mr Watterson, it makes me feel like a school
    teacher....
    
    Anyway, back to the discussion....
    
    Living fairly close to Aldershot, I've been following their slow
    lingering death for the last couple of years and yes I am implying
    Aldershot was a badly run operation. From the appointment of an 18 year
    old 'property tycoon' a few years ago, up until the announcement a
    couple of weeks ago of criminal charges against people connected with
    the club, there's been a steady procession of 'saviours' who've had a
    quick look at the books and for whatever reason decided against
    investing any of their money.....make of that what you will.
    
    As regards the TV contract - it's the TV companies who decide who they
    want to show, not the 'greedy big clubs' - all they're doing is what
    anyone else in that situation would do, taking as much as they can. 
    
    As for the future, I think the premier league is just a stepping stone
    towards a European League and yes it is very likely that we will
    eventually only see 'top class' football played in Liverpool,
    Manchester and North London.
    
    Paul
                                                                
13.202SUBURB::INV_LIBRARYWho hell he?!?Wed Apr 08 1992 20:3730
    
    The real reason behind the demise of Aldershot is not fraudulent
    activity in the boardroom but the simply fact that each week gate
    receipts failed to cover the wage bill. The problem for football is
    that this is true for a large number, possibly even a majority, of
    third and fourth division clubs. Running a football club is now akin to
    running a charity: constant fund-raising events are the only way of
    making money week-in, week-out.
    
    The solution for lower division clubs lies in selling their best
    players to the likes of Man. Utd, Liverpool etc and/or achieving
    success in their respective division, for nothing brings back the
    crowds like a winning streak. However, often these two things are
    incompatible since if a club sells it's best players it's unlikely to
    be successful. 
    
    What has happened over the past twenty years is that more of the wealth 
    (both in terms of money and players) has become concentrated in fewer
    teams and breaking into this little cabal is almost impossible.
    Wimbledon's most outstanding success has not been winning the FA cup,
    or even getting into the first division but staying there, since most
    teams that achieve success on a miniscule budget find that success very
    hard to sustain. In simple terms, not everyone can be successful but
    only those that are will make money; the concentration of wealth will
    ensure that fewer and fewer teams win the major prizes, leading to the
    stagnation of football and eventually the cutting off of the
    supply-line of talent from the lower divisions. Where will the "big
    boys" spend their money then?
    
    jeff
13.203Salary questionsSALES::THILLWed Apr 08 1992 21:5114
    This is an interesting discussion. You mention that smaller clubs 
    sometimes have trouble paying player salaries. Just curious, but what 
    is the average pay in the different divisions? Are all 3rd and 4th
    division clubs full-time professional? 
    
    I've heard that John Barnes gets 8,000 quid a week. Is this figure based 
    on the whole year (416,000 pounds) or just during the season? How do 
    salaries at the "Big" English clubs compare with the Bundesliga, Spain, 
    France, etc. I know Italian salaries are higher, with some players making 
    more than $2 million a year. Do the lower Italian clubs have this
    problem as well? People might say, why watch the local team when you
    can watch Milan, Juventus, Inter, etc on TV.  
    
    Tom
13.204Sad, but true.TRUCKS::SANTSee that? That's you, that is.Thu Apr 09 1992 13:4229
    
    	re .202..
    
    	I'm sorry, but I am inclined to generally agree with Paul
    	(ref.201..)
    
    	Aldershot was a hive of fraudulent activity up until about two
    	years ago, by which time they were doomed financially. I know
    	this because a friend of mine (Accountant) was appointed as 
    	Administrator of the Club's affairs about 18 months ago in an 
    	attempt to get the club back on the level FINANCIALLY. He said 
    	at the time, long before the receivers were brought in and the 
    	boardroom shuffles began that Aldershot had absolutely no chance 
    	of financial survival and that "boardmembers" had been ripping 
    	the club off for years.
    	
    	The appointment of that 18-year old was absolutely a stunt. It
    	had no chance of success. 
    
    	I think it is very sad that any side should get so deeply into
    	trouble that they should be wound up, but I don't think it is
    	to be expected of other clubs, no matter what their turnover,
    	to bail out the dealings of people that quite frankly should
    	never be allowed to run a business ever again. Legal proceedings
    	may yet be brought against some of the past offenders..
    
    	jmho..
    
    	Andy.
13.205Results & 2pFORTY2::ROBERTSONLovely!! Milky Milky!Thu Apr 09 1992 13:5770
	Tues 7th Apr

       Man Utd.           1  -  1    Man City           
       Notts County       0  -  2    Tottenham Hotspur  

	Wed 8th Apr

       Coventry City      0  -  0    Sheffield Wed.     
       Liverpool          2  -  3    Wimbledon          
       Norwich City       1  -  3    Arsenal            
       Southampton        0  -  1    Nottingham For     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 36   19   14    3   57   26   71   31 
   2 Leeds Utd.               37   18   15    4   65   35   69   30 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           37   18   10    9   56   48   64    8 
   4 Arsenal                  37   16   13    8   66   42   61   24 
   5 Liverpool                36   15   13    8   44   34   58   10 
   6 Man City                 37   16   10   11   50   43   58    7 
   7 Crystal Palace           37   13   13   11   49   55   52   -6 
   8 Nottingham For           36   14    9   13   53   50   51    3 
   9 Aston Villa              37   14    9   14   42   39   51    3 
  10 Wimbledon                38   12   13   13   47   48   49   -1 
  11 Chelsea                  37   12   13   12   45   50   49   -5 
  12 QPR                      37   10   17   10   42   41   47    1 
  13 Sheffield Utd.           36   13    8   15   55   55   47    0 
  14 Everton                  37   11   13   13   45   43   46    2 
  15 Tottenham Hotspur        36   13    6   17   49   51   45   -2 
  16 Oldham Athletic          37   12    8   17   55   60   44   -5 
  17 Norwich City             37   11   11   15   46   54   44   -8 
  18 Southampton              36   11   10   15   35   48   43  -13 
  19 Coventry City            37   10   11   16   34   38   41   -4 
  20 Luton Town               36    8   11   17   30   60   35  -30 
  21 Notts County             37    7   10   20   35   56   31  -21 
  22 West Ham Utd.            35    6   11   18   29   53   29  -24 


	Back to the discussion in hand:

	I think it is both an obligation and also in the best interests of 
football, that the lower division clubs are helped by the larger clubs.
I realise that football ended being a "sport" years ago and moved into the
business world. But some of the cash that moves around the bigger clubs is
absolutely ridiculus.

	As has been said before, if the 3/4 divisions disappear, then footballs
roots will die. It will become an elitest sport like American football, in as
much as demand exceeds supply. Tickets will be like gold-dust, and a lot of the
glamour will disappear. Can you imagine what the 1st Saturday of the New year
would be like without the likes of Wrexham v Arsenal, Enfield v Coventry etc. in
the 3rd round of the Cup. But the biggest problem is that some of the future
stars may never come to light. With fewer clubs, only those who show promise
from an early age will get noticed. Those late bloomers may never get the
chance and by late I mean early 20s.

	I say that the big boys have had it good for too long, and it's about
time the rest of the league had a look in. And why not show some 3/4th division
ties live now and again. I'm sure that after their start to the season, there
would have been a large audience to see some of Barnet's games. I'm sure the
skill standard wouldn't have been as high, but for excitement and goals it would
knock the socks of some of the 1st division glamour teams this season e.g.
Evertonnil and Aston Villanil.

	Just my tuppence

	Keep football alive

	Al
13.206SkyBAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th's trouble at t'millThu Apr 09 1992 14:2613
    Lower Division teams are shown on Sky, they show the Autoglass Trophy
    and ZDS Cup (don't laugh). A 4th Division game can be just as
    interesting as a top of Div 1 clash (or more interesting). Lower
    Division clubs and players must be given a slice of the cake, the PFA
    is trying to look after the vast majority of players that don't earn
    8,000 a week - good luck to their campaign. Football players aren't
    that well paid, I know that Mark Aizlewood (Welsh International, ex
    Leeds United Captain) was on 23,000 a year at Bristol Rovers/City, he
    was in financial difficulty.
    
    Go to a match whenever you can - it's better live !!
    
    jb.
13.207Up and DownBAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th's trouble at t'millThu Apr 09 1992 14:297
    The relegation places are almost decided, Notts Co and West Ham look
    certs, but Luton could do their annual Houdini Act, and Coventy or
    Spurs could go down instead. Ipswich and Cambridge could come up
    automatically with Leicester from the playoffs. Title - Leeds United on
    goals scored !
    
    jb.
13.208RIGHTO::HAIGHJohn Major on yer bike!Thu Apr 09 1992 14:524
    
    What about making the third and fourth division amateur status? Would
    that have a negative influence on players coming through? You could
    also regionalise them as well.
13.209BLKPUD::WATTERSONPThu Apr 09 1992 15:2726
13.210perhaps a wee bit excessive...EICMFG::HOWEAlice in ordnungThu Apr 09 1992 15:5413
13.211SUBURB::INV_LIBRARYWho hell he?!?Thu Apr 09 1992 17:5325
13.212SUBURB::INV_LIBRARYWho hell he?!?Thu Apr 09 1992 18:0014
    
    From today's Guardian:
    
    "Milan came under attack at home and abroad yesterday amid increasing
    concern that their wealth is not healthy for the rest of European or
    Italian football.
    "There are now those who can enlarge their squads to the point of
    infinity, like Berlusconi (Milan president), and those who cannot,"
    said Gianni Rivera, the ex-Italian international."This means in a few
    years there will be a dictatorial regime in soccer.Milan will be like
    Real Madrid in the Fifties. They won in Spain and abroad without
    meeting resistance. But I don't think people enjoyed it very much."
    
    jeff
13.2131930s management for 1990s economics is doomed.TRUCKS::SANTSee that? That's you, that is.Thu Apr 09 1992 18:2328
    
    	I accept your point that there are (and always have been..) the
    	haves and the have-nots in our own and other football leagues, 
    	but I don't think it is reasonable in this or any other form
    	of "business" to expect others more fortunate to support the
    	mis-management and misconduct of other "controllers". Notice	
    	I avoid the term Chairman, Director, etc..
    
    	Maybe it is time for the smaller "never-weres but still want-to-
    	bes" to take their economic (small 'e'..) responsibilities more 
    	seriously if they wish to stay in "business". Part-time is certainly 
    	one very real and do-able alternative. What about ground-sharing? 
    	Sides like Bury, Rochdale, Wigan (from my own neck-of-the-woods) 
    	could make a serious effort to sell one of their few assets (ie. 
    	their ground..) and form a joint venture of producing a, say, 20K
    	all-seater stadium for their joint use and to provide a venue
    	for other money-making activities. Only a thought. 
    
    	Football clubs must develop a management and pay structure 
    	suitable for the modern environment. Those that don't will
    	follow Aldershot into oblivion with ever-mounting debt and
    	a blind refusal to accept that it will ever happen to them.
    
    	To blame "big clubs" for what happened to Aldershot is, imo, very
    	easy to do and avoids facing up to the real responsibility of
    	the clubs most affected by tough economic facts. 
    
    	Andy.
13.214SUBURB::INV_LIBRARYWho hell he?!?Thu Apr 09 1992 19:1028
13.215UTRUST::CAMPBELLReal ponies don't go oink!Thu Apr 09 1992 19:3116
    Here's a very bad analogy but,   being a contractor I have my own
    'company'.   DEC uses contractors now and again, sometimes for quite
    important tasks.  I wouldn't, however, expect DEC to bail be out if I
    got (whaddyamean IF!) into financial trouble and was threatened with
    liquidation.  That's the way it goes.  Similarly, why should the big
    clubs bail out small ones who can't manage their affairs properly.  It
    may be bad luck, it may be due to fraud etc. etc... but really they
    have to look after themselves.  If I can't contract anymore, DEC look
    elsewhere, if Aldershot go under, the other clubs will always find
    their youngsters/new blood somewhere else.
    
    It's tough, but there ya go,
    
    Stevo
     (my word, is this the first serious note I've ever written?  I must go
    for a lie-down :-)   )
13.216RIGHTO::HAIGHJohn Major on yer bike!Thu Apr 09 1992 20:086
    
    	Basically the question is "Should football be run as a business?"
    
    	IF the answer is Yes, then the previous note is probably right.
    
    			Steve
13.217SUBURB::INV_LIBRARYWho hell he?!?Thu Apr 09 1992 20:3018
    
    re .215
    
    I agree, that is a bad analogy ;^). Your relationship to DEC is
    entirely different to that between clubs in the football league, since,
    as a contractor, you are always subordinate to the companies that
    utilise your services. In the football league, the smaller teams do not
    intend to be subordinate (since they would all like to keep their best
    players) but have to do so in order to survive. In other words, as a 
    contractor, you set out to sell your services to other companies,
    whereas the smaller football clubs have no choice but to sell their
    best assets.
    
    Once again, I am not suggesting that bigger clubs should subsidise the
    minnows but that the new wealth coming into the game should be used for
    the benefit of all and not just the ones already at the top.
    
    jeff
13.218Thatcherite philosophyGALVIA::SPAINThere's always the U.S.Thu Apr 09 1992 20:5012
    
    Re last few, so the rich get richer and the poor go to the wall.
    
    I do not want to see the day when you have an elite of 4 or 5 clubs and
    nobody with any chance of joining them.  That's on the cards and it
    will destroy football.
    
    Gary.
    
    PS I'm still looking for the dates for the playoff semi finals and
    finals.  a friend is planning on going over so help would be
    appreciated.  
13.219YUPPY::MCCABEMikeThu Apr 09 1992 21:3121
    >>Re last few, so the rich get richer and the poor go to the wall.
    
    It doesn't mean that at all, but it does mean that alot of (so called)
    professional clubs have got to sort themselves out financially and
    organisationally.  This may mean, as someone has already said, that a
    number of clubs go part-time and that the league is totally reorganised.
    If this leads to a 'fitter', better, Football League then I'm all in 
    favour of it.  
    
    However, the major problem for football clubs, money, could be resolved
    (or swept under the carpet for a few more years) if more people got off 
    their backsides and went to see a game on Saturday, hence putting money
    into the game, rather than pontificate about it.  
    
    Mike M
    
    P.S. By the way, Steve (I think) football has been a business for over
    a hundred years.  In fact, ever since they started paying players and
    charging for entrance.  The problem is, in that time it hasn't been a
    very well run business.  
                                   
13.220Ground share is a solutionSALES::THILLThu Apr 09 1992 21:5928
    Ground sharing is one thing clubs can do to help ease the cash crunch. 
    Not having grown up with football the way most of you have (I'm American) 
    it seems odd to me that just about every club (at least in Divs 1 & 2) 
    own their own stadium, but some of them are clearly sub-standard. The 
    only ground share I can think of is Wimbledon and Palace, but Palace are 
    the ones who own Selhurst Park, right? The Wombles played somewhere else 
    last year.  
    
    What about an Italian style situation? Milan and Inter both play at San
    Siro, and as far as I know, they are equals, not landlord/tennant. It's
    also the case with other clubs in the same city such as Genoa/Sampdoria,
    Lazio/Roma, and Torino/Juventus. All of these stadia are safe, modern and
    comfortable. Why couldn't two clubs with old, outdated grounds in the same 
    city or area (10 miles or so) sell the land and share a common new,
    modern stadium? Sure, there is the tradition that the club has been
    here since the beginning of time, but this directly relates to clubs'
    bond schemes trying to renovate the park a section at a time. Especially 
    after Hillsborough, it seems that the Blades and Owls could have gotten 
    together and agreed on a convenient site, with parking, rest room
    facilities all seats, etc. and sold their grounds and shared the new
    one. One club would be away when the other is home. For Derbies, each
    would have their own "home" match, just as if they were playig at
    different grounds.
    
    This would go a long way if England is interested in hosing events like
    the European Championships or the World Cup in the future.
     
    Tom   
13.221R2ME2::HINXMANI'll just sit here and rustFri Apr 10 1992 00:4218
	re .220

	Given the shortage of land in England (remember that the population
	density of Great Britain is ten times that of the U.S.A.) and
	the complexities of the planning (zoning in American-speak) process,
	it is going to be very difficult to find a new site for a new
	stadium.
	A football ground would be right up there along with nuclear reactors
	and prisons on people's Not In My Back Yard List.

	You also need to take into account the practicalities of transport.
	People are not going to travel far to watch, say, Stockport County.
	Suppose Stockport were to sell their ground and rent time at Maine
	Road. Wouldn't most people say, "If I'm going to make the effort
	to get to Maine Road, I'm going to do it when Manchester City are
	at home there"?

	Tony
13.222RIGHTO::HAIGHBritons. The ultimate masochists.Fri Apr 10 1992 16:5515
    >P.S. By the way, Steve (I think) football has been a business for over
    >a hundred years.  In fact, ever since they started paying players and
    >charging for entrance.  The problem is, in that time it hasn't been a
    >very well run business.  
    
    
    	Well maybe, but how many businesses have limped along like many
    football clubs and still survived? Mismanagement/no management on the
    scale seen at Tottenham, Aldershot, Wolves a few years ago, and <fill in
    your list of other teams here> would, in the normal business world get
    you no further than the receivers door. (Although DEC seem to get away
    with it!) So even though technically football is a business, it isn't
    really run like one. 
    
    		Steve
13.223They do it in Italy...SALES::THILLFri Apr 10 1992 22:3413
    re .221
    Good point about the land, Tony. What about Italy then? I would imagine
    that the population density is similar to England. San Siro is right in
    the city centre of Milan, so they must have had to knock down some
    buildings, etc. to build it. For ground sharing, I was thinking more of
    say, Man U and Man City sharing a ground, since at least they are in
    the same city. Manchester was in the running for the Olympics, so if
    they ever got them, it might make sense for both clubs to share a new
    olympic stadium. Of course fans would miss the "atmosphere" of Old
    Trafford and Maine Road...
    
      
    Tom
13.224Results & Table 11-AprFORTY2::ROBERTSONLovely!! Milky Milky!Mon Apr 13 1992 14:5135
       Arsenal            4  -  1    Crystal Palace
       Aston Villa        1  -  0    Liverpool          
       Everton            0  -  2    Sheffield Utd.     
       Leeds Utd.         3  -  0    Chelsea            
       Notts County       1  -  0    Coventry City
       Oldham Athletic    5  -  1    Luton Town         
       QPR                1  -  2    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Sheffield Wed.     2  -  0    Man City           
       West Ham Utd.      4  -  0    Norwich City       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Leeds Utd.               38   19   15    4   68   35   72   33 
   2 Man Utd.                 36   19   14    3   57   26   71   31 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           38   19   10    9   58   48   67   10 
   4 Arsenal                  38   17   13    8   70   43   64   27 
   5 Liverpool                37   15   13    9   44   35   58    9 
   6 Man City                 38   16   10   12   50   45   58    5 
   7 Aston Villa              38   15    9   14   43   39   54    4 
   8 Crystal Palace           38   13   13   12   50   59   52   -9 
   9 Nottingham For           36   14    9   13   53   50   51    3 
  10 Sheffield Utd.           37   14    8   15   57   55   50    2 
  11 Wimbledon                38   12   13   13   47   48   49   -1 
  12 Chelsea                  38   12   13   13   45   53   49   -8 
  13 Tottenham Hotspur        37   14    6   17   51   52   48   -1 
  14 QPR                      38   10   17   11   43   43   47    0 
  15 Oldham Athletic          38   13    8   17   60   61   47   -1 
  16 Everton                  38   11   13   14   45   45   46    0 
  17 Norwich City             38   11   11   16   46   58   44  -12 
  18 Southampton              36   11   10   15   35   48   43  -13 
  19 Coventry City            38   10   11   17   34   39   41   -5 
  20 Luton Town               37    8   11   18   31   65   35  -34 
  21 Notts County             38    8   10   20   36   56   34  -20 
  22 West Ham Utd.            36    7   11   18   33   53   32  -20 
13.22514 April ScoresBAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th's trouble at t'millWed Apr 15 1992 14:3312
    Last night :-
    
    Luton 2 Forest 1
    Sheff U 2 Spurs 0
    West Ham 0 Soton 1
    
    Luton carry on the Houdini act ...
    West Ham doomed ...
    Coventry set to do a Sheffield Wednesday ...
    Sheff Utd in 8th spot !!!
    
    jb.
13.226Table ?ANNECY::ROWLAND_Aa slip of the tongueWed Apr 15 1992 17:125
    
    What's the bottom of the first looking like now, he asked hopefully ?
    The Hatters have had their sights set on the sky blues for a while :-)
    
    Adam.
13.227Coventry in deep.....TRUCKS::SANTDrainpipetrousertastic!Wed Apr 15 1992 18:088
    
    	..er..from memory..
    
    	Luton three points behind, same number of games played.
    	Notts.County looking almost doomed. West Ham not yet but
    	almost mathematically doomed.
    
    	Andy.
13.228BLKPUD::WATTERSONPWed Apr 15 1992 18:3516
        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

  16 Everton                  38   11   13   14   45   45   46    0 
  17 Southampton              37   12   10   15   36   48   46  -12 
  18 Norwich City             38   11   11   16   46   58   44  -12 
  19 Coventry City            38   10   11   17   34   39   41   -5 
  20 Luton Town               38    9   11   18   33   66   38  -33 
  21 Notts County             38    8   10   20   36   56   34  -20 
  22 West Ham Utd.            37    7   11   19   33   54   32  -21 
    
    It looks like West Ham & Notts, plus either Luton or Coventry - but
    Norwich, Southampton or ....Everton (arrrrgggghhh !!!) could still go
    down. Everton play Coventry away on Saturday and a defeat there could
    make things 'interesting'.
    
    Paul
13.229More games = more moneySUBURB::INV_LIBRARYWho hell he?!?Thu Apr 16 1992 12:3314
13.230one eyed monsterKERNEL::HAWLEYIYogic flying, new olympic event?Thu Apr 16 1992 12:3410
    
    jeff,
    
    i dont think that the role of television should be discounted in this.
    Increasingly these days, big matches are played as and when a viewing
    audience can be found rather than when this would be most convenient
    for the clubs themselves.
    
    Ian.
    
13.231Less Money - we must have more games.BAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th's trouble at t'millThu Apr 16 1992 13:055
    Getting the R Cup out of the way before Christmas will ease League game
    pressure. Reducing the League size will also work, but that's less
    money coming in.
    
    jb.
13.232RIGHTO::HAIGHBritons. The ultimate masochists.Thu Apr 16 1992 13:4916
    
    	While I agree with you Jeff, the league program is too crowded
    however,
    
    >	    With the European Championships this summer, what's the chance of the
    >British players being completely knackered before they start?
    
    
    	The Germans, Dutch (and probably several nations) will have the
    same problems (if not worse) this year. The Italians didn't qualify for 
    the European Championships, and consequently their league will finish 
    very late. Most of the German team plays in the Italian first
    division + some 'quite' important Dutch players!
    
    
    		Steve
13.233Easter Results & tableFORTY2::ROBERTSONLovely!! Milky Milky!Tue Apr 21 1992 15:3590
Here are the Easter results from the 1st Div.

	Thur 16th Apr

       Man Utd.           1  -  0    Southampton        

	Sat 18th Apr

       Chelsea            2  -  1    QPR                
       Coventry City      0  -  1    Everton            
       Crystal Palace     0  -  0    Oldham Athletic    
       Liverpool          0  -  0    Leeds Utd.         
       Luton Town         1  -  1    Man Utd.           
       Man City           2  -  0    West Ham Utd.      
       Norwich City       0  -  1    Notts County       
       Nottingham For     2  -  0    Aston Villa        
       Sheffield Utd.     1  -  1    Arsenal            
       Southampton        0  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Tottenham Hotspur  3  -  2    Wimbledon          

	Mon 20th Apr

       Arsenal            4  -  0    Liverpool          
       Aston Villa        3  -  1    Chelsea            
       Everton            1  -  2    Man City           
       Leeds Utd.         2  -  0    Coventry City              :-)       
       Man Utd.           1  -  2    Nottingham For             :-)   
       Notts County       1  -  3    Sheffield Utd.     
       Oldham Athletic    1  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur  
       QPR                2  -  1    Luton Town         
       Sheffield Wed.     2  -  0    Norwich City       
       West Ham Utd.      0  -  2    Crystal Palace     
       Wimbledon          0  -  1    Southampton        


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Leeds Utd.               40   20   16    4   70   35   76   35 
   2 Man Utd.                 39   20   15    4   60   29   75   31 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           40   21   10    9   61   48   73   13 
   4 Arsenal                  40   18   14    8   75   44   68   31 
   5 Man City                 40   18   10   12   54   46   64    8 
   6 Liverpool                39   15   14   10   44   39   59    5 
   7 Sheffield Utd.           40   16    9   15   63   57   57    6 
   8 Nottingham For           39   16    9   14   58   53   57    5 
   9 Aston Villa              40   16    9   15   46   42   57    4 
  10 Crystal Palace           40   14   14   12   52   59   56   -7 
  11 Chelsea                  40   13   13   14   48   57   52   -9 
  12 Oldham Athletic          40   14    9   17   61   61   51    0 
  13 Tottenham Hotspur        40   15    6   19   54   57   51   -3 
  14 QPR                      40   11   17   12   46   46   50    0 
  15 Everton                  40   12   13   15   47   47   49    0 
  16 Wimbledon                40   12   13   15   49   52   49   -3 
  17 Southampton              40   13   10   17   37   50   49  -13 
  18 Norwich City             40   11   11   18   46   61   44  -15 
  19 Coventry City            40   10   11   19   34   42   41   -8 
  20 Luton Town               40    9   12   19   35   69   39  -34 
  21 Notts County             40    9   10   21   38   59   37  -21 
  22 West Ham Utd.            39    7   11   21   33   58   32  -25 


	At the top, it's no longer a two horse race. Sheffield Weds. are now
only 3 points from the top and could snatch it if the Mancs & Leeds continue
with their jitters. I reckon we won't know the champions until 4-45 on May 2.

	At the bottom Wast Ham still have a statistical chance of avoiding the
drop, but they must win all their games, and hope Coventry lose theirs, and
the victories must be with a sizeable goal average. I hope they start this by
turning over Man U tomorrow 'though I can't see it, however they may take a
point.

	Nott's County too have to rely on Coventry and win their last 2.

	Luton can still overtake Coventry & Norwich but I don't think they will.

	Who'd have thought on Mar 11 that within 5 weeks, Sheffield Utd would
be 7th. On Mar 11 they were 18th looking like going down:

  18 Sheffield Utd.           30    9    7   14   44   50   34   -6

and today:

   7 Sheffield Utd.           40   16    9   15   63   57   57    6 

   Last 10 games:             10    7    2    1   19    7   23   12

That's 2 years in a row they've done that. If they could start out a bit better
they could be a potential Challenger for the championship.

Al
13.234JMHO, of course.SUBURB::INV_LIBRARYWho hell he?!?Thu Apr 23 1992 15:0834
    
    If you didn't already know, here's last night's results:
    
    Forest   1 - 1   Liverpool
    Hammers  1 - 0   Man Utd
    
    Whilst an exciting finish to the season is now assured, surely this has
    been one of the poorest championships, in terms of quality, in recent
    memory. That a mediocre team like Sheff Wed. should still be in with a
    chance of winning the title with only two games left, is an indictment
    of the quality of the other teams in the first division this season.
    
    For a long time, the title has been considered a two-horse race between 
    Man. Utd and Leeds and one of these two should win it. However,
    normally in these situations, the teams involved are winning almost
    every game and it is the team that drops points by drawing the odd game
    who loses out. As we all know, in the last couple of months Leeds and
    Man Utd have gone out of their way to present the title to each other
    on a plate by consistently failing to beat the divisions weaker teams.
    
    For example, take Man Utd's last four games:
    
    Southampton (H)
    Luton       (A)
    Forest      (H)
    West Ham    (A)
    
    Hardly a daunting prospect, yet they took only four points out of the
    twelve on offer. This is not the stuff of a great championship team and
    why I believe this has been a poor quality season.
    
    There, that should stir up a hornet's nest 8^).
    
    jeff
13.235Just not good enough.NEWOA::BURTONThu Apr 23 1992 15:208
    
    Re: -1
    
    Well said that man. English football is slipping further and further 
    behind the rest of Europe, let's hope this will change next season.
    
    Nige.
    
13.236Putting it another wayXSTACY::PATTISONTree!Thu Apr 23 1992 16:416
	I'd just like to point out that if all the matches in the league
	this season had been played in reverse order, with exactly
	the same results.... what a good end to the season we'd be having.

	Dave
13.237Inquisitive YankCTHQ2::LEARYSix, two, and even.Thu Apr 23 1992 21:2911
    Hello,
    I am an occasional RON of this conference am a semi-ignorant ( about
    English football!) American who will be in England from May2-May10.
    Can anyone point me to the remaining 1st division league schedule
    (including FA Cup final)?  I might be able to catch a title-deciding
    match on TV! ( I take it United, Leeds and Wednesday might still be
    in the hunt by then??)
    
    Thanks much,
    Mike
    
13.238unpredictableSALES::THILLThu Apr 23 1992 21:3716
    What are you guys complaining about? This is an exciting end to the
    season with 3 teams having a chance at winning with only 2 games left.
    Would you rather have it like Italy, where AC Milan is running away
    with it, and it has been a foregone conclusion for several weeks? 
    
    Sure, it looks dubious when a team backs its way in to the title only 
    because someone else lost. No doubt that Manchester United is a stronger 
    side than West Ham, but the result didn't show it. If the higher placed 
    team won all the games it "should" things would get boring very quickly. I
    give credit to the lower teams (out of the relegation zone) who have
    nothing to play for, other than to spoil it for someone else. Sure, it
    would be easire for them to just "go through the motions" and put an
    end to a frustrating season, but they are making it tough for the
    would-be champions. 
    
    Tom
13.239Another YankSALES::THILLThu Apr 23 1992 21:455
    re .237
    
    Hi Mike! Good to see you over here!
    
    Tom
13.240can't wait to see me first Eng.pitch!CTHQ2::LEARYSix, two, and even.Thu Apr 23 1992 22:228
    Hi Tom,
    Jest was checkin' up on ya. 8^). Actually was also looking for London-
    based matches as well as the top three as you pointed out to me.
    Are you sure Sheffield Wed is at Liverpool on 5/2 or is Wed at home
    that date ( makes for a longer tube ride!)
    
    MikeL
    
13.241I wish I was going!SALES::THILLThu Apr 23 1992 23:2210
    Mike,
    
    I think that game is at Sheffield (The home team is always listed
    first). As for games London, Maybe supporters of those clubs could fill
    you in on which clubs are home those weekends. Seems to me there would
    be a few in London to choose from. Maybe the individual club notes for
    Chelsea, QPR, West Ham, Arsenal, Spurs, Crystal Palace and Wimbledon
    might also be worth a look.
    
    Tom
13.242Thanks!CTHQ2::LEARYSix, two, and even.Thu Apr 23 1992 23:538
    Tom,
    Would you believe that I might have two tickets for the FA Cup final
    on the 9th? A friend of a friend, etc. in London has access to tix
    and I'll find ouit tomorrow if they are available. Talk about
    beginner's luck ( hope this doesn't piss off the local chaps!)!
    
    MikeL
    
13.243SUBURB::INV_LIBRARYWho hell he?!?Fri Apr 24 1992 12:4624
    
                       <<< Note 13.238 by SALES::THILL >>>
                               -< unpredictable >-

   > What are you guys complaining about? This is an exciting end to the
   > season with 3 teams having a chance at winning with only 2 games left.
   > Would you rather have it like Italy, where AC Milan is running away
   > with it, and it has been a foregone conclusion for several weeks? 
    
    Of course not. The championship would indeed be boring if it were
    dominated by one or two sides, year after year and who won practically
    every game. The competition would stagnate very quickly if this were
    the case (see my earlier note about Italians worried about the
    dominance of Milan).
    
    However, this is not to say that it is preferable to have a division of
    twenty mediocre teams of comparable quality rather than a mix of teams
    (hopefully variable from season to season), in which the one's at the 
     top play good quality, consistent football. I would argue that this
    season we have seen something of a levelling-out of abilities and
    unfortunately, that level has not been very high. After all, could you
    really see Sheffield Wednesday winning the European Cup?
    
    jeff
13.244CombinationsFUTURS::FLETCHERFri Apr 24 1992 15:2317
    In the paper today it states that ITV have put in a million quids bid
    to televise the matches involving the top 3 on May 2 , if all 3 are
    still involved. This would mean switching all 3 matches to 5 o'clockish
    , and all 3 being played simultaneously , ITV switching from gound to
    ground as the action develops. This is by no means certain. If any team
    drops out of contention at the weekend then there match will be played
    as normal , also if Norwich need points to stay up then the whole thing
    is scraped and they all play as normal. After all these considerations
    the Police somewhere will probably say no.
    
    Probably no chance at all of that coming off then. It seems strange to
    me that they show an event that last 9 months and when it comes down to
    a winner being decided its not televised. Its a bit like not showing
    the Wimbledon final after showing all the rest of it , or stopping the
    broadcast of the snooker final with a couple of frames to go.
    
    Nigel
13.245BLKPUD::WATTERSONPFri Apr 24 1992 15:4514
    
    Re .244
    
    It sounds like ITV are trying to do what R5 sometimes do - ie start
    their commentary at one game, then if that gets 'over-taken' by a more
    exciting game, switch over to that one. I think it happened during the
    FA cup when they eventually ended up at the Wrexham - Arsenal game. 
    
    It works okay on  the radio, but I can't see it working with Telly -
    especially when it involves messing round with kick-off times. As usual
    the true supporters lose out. Why don't they just play them on Saturday
    afternoon and show high-lights of all three/two games early evening ?
        
    Paul
13.246Slight problemFUTURS::FLETCHERFri Apr 24 1992 15:587
    RE:-1
    
    Good idea Paul - why didnt they think of that. The problem with that is
    that if its left up to the ITV regions to decide if we see any highlight ,
    then anywhere south of Stoke wont get to see then.
    
    Nigel
13.247Whatever you do, DON'T TELL CUNNO :-)SALES::THILLFri Apr 24 1992 21:1915
    re .242
    
    That's great, Mike! But whatever you do, don't let "Cunno" find out!
    He'll try to convince you that, in order to fully appreciate the FA
    Cup, you have to be familiar with the prowess of Liverpool, and all of
    the honours Liverpool won in the last 25 years, all recited from
    memory. As a special bonus, Cunno will even tell you when the last time
    Manchester United won the league, if you didn't already know. No doubt 
    you'll also be led in prayer for that diety of dieties, John Aldridge, 
    aka TGA, who is currenly with a middle of the road 2nd division club. 
    After visiting the shrine to Aldo, you'll be asked to don a lose fitting 
    robe and shake a tambourine at the airport, beging for coins from 
    passers-by. I hope you know what you're getting into :-)
    
    Tom
13.248First past the post is what countsESSB::SONEILLMon Apr 27 1992 14:3312
    re: .234
    
    I agree with Alex Ferguson's comments yesterday.  The league is as
    tough as ever and at the end of the day Leeds winning total will not
    be far off previous year's winners.  Are we assuming that a league
    without Liverpool or Arsenal challenging is of less quality because
    these teams didn't have the quality or consistency to challenge for
    honours this year?   I heard David O'Leary comment after last week's
    game Vs Liverpool that it is the WORST Liverpool team he has played
    against in his 19 years at Arsenal.
    
    Shane
13.249Div 2ANNECY::ROWLAND_Aa slip of the tongueMon Apr 27 1992 16:126
    
    OK, we all know what the table looks like. Any chance of seeing how
    the second stands at present ?
    
    
    Adam
13.250Best team won, but ...SIOG::SPENCERPeter Spencer @DBO 827-2286Mon Apr 27 1992 16:2012
                      <<< Note 13.248 by ESSB::SONEILL >>>
                    -< First past the post is what counts >-

>    tough as ever and at the end of the day Leeds winning total will not
>    be far off previous year's winners.  Are we assuming that a league
    
    Last year's winning total was 85 points from 38 games.
               Leeds' max will be 82 points from 42 games.
    
    Factually yours,
    
    Cunno II
13.251We're waiting ...ANNECY::ROWLAND_Aa slip of the tongueMon Apr 27 1992 16:332
    
    Talking of which, where is Cunno today ? Hung over, perhaps ?
13.252Position in Div. 2JUMBLY::SAWYERMon Apr 27 1992 16:4610
    IPSWICH Town are Champions of Div 2 - come on you blues!!! or Town!!! and 
    will go up with Leicester or Middlesbrough, one of these to join Cambridge,
    Derby, Charlton or Blackburn Rovers! in the play-offs I think.
    
    Looks as if 3 out of the following will go down Brighton, Plymouth, Oxford, 
    Newcastle, Grimsby or Sunderland. 
    
    Let me know if I've missed anyone!!
    
    Steve
13.253Some of us have work to do :-(FORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Mon Apr 27 1992 19:1347
At last The Div 1 Scores & Table confirming Leeds As Champs :-)

West Ham & Notts County drop after 1 season. It's sad to see the Hammers go down
as they've played some attractive footy this season.

	Sat 25th Apr

       Chelsea            1  -  1    Arsenal            
       Coventry City      1  -  0    West Ham Utd.      
       Crystal Palace     1  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Luton Town         2  -  0    Aston Villa        
       Man City           2  -  0    Notts County       
       Norwich City       1  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Nottingham For     1  -  1    QPR                
       Southampton        1  -  0    Oldham Athletic    
       Tottenham Hotspur  3  -  3    Everton 		( Spurs 3 - 0 up at HT )

	Sun 26th Apr

       Liverpool          2  -  0    Man Utd.           
       Sheffield Utd.     2  -  3    Leeds Utd.   	CHAMPIONS      


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Leeds Utd.               41   21   16    4   73   37   79   36 	C
   2 Man Utd.                 41   20   15    6   60   32   75   28 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           41   21   11    9   62   49   74   13 
   4 Arsenal                  41   18   15    8   76   45   69   31 
   5 Man City                 41   19   10   12   56   46   67   10 
   6 Liverpool                41   16   15   10   47   40   63    7 
   7 Nottingham For           41   16   11   14   60   55   59    5 
   8 Sheffield Utd.           41   16    9   16   65   60   57    5 
   9 Aston Villa              41   16    9   16   46   44   57    2 
  10 Crystal Palace           41   14   15   12   53   60   57   -7 
  11 Chelsea                  41   13   14   14   49   58   53   -9 
  12 Tottenham Hotspur        41   15    7   19   57   60   52   -3 
  13 Southampton              41   14   10   17   38   50   52  -12 
  14 QPR                      41   11   18   12   47   47   51    0 
  15 Oldham Athletic          41   14    9   18   61   62   51   -1 
  16 Everton                  41   12   14   15   50   50   50    0 
  17 Wimbledon                41   12   14   15   50   53   50   -3 
  18 Norwich City             41   11   12   18   47   62   45  -15 
  19 Coventry City            41   11   11   19   35   42   44   -7 
  20 Luton Town               41   10   12   19   37   69   42  -32 
  21 Notts County             41    9   10   22   38   61   37  -23 	R
  22 West Ham Utd.            41    8   11   22   34   59   35  -25 	R
13.254New system.BAHTAT::BLYTHELeeds United AFC, League Champions 1991-92Wed Apr 29 1992 18:499
    For next years FL (Divs 2 to 4) a new points system may be used:-
    
    lose 0 pts.
    draw 1 pt.
    win by 1 goal 3 pts
    .......2 goals 4 pts.
    .......3 or more goals 5 pts.
    
    jb.
13.255Conference goes to the final game again..SUBURB::INV_LIBRARYWho hell he?!?Fri May 01 1992 18:1714
    
    Last night:
    
    Redbridge 0   Wycombe   5
    
    Good result but it looks like Colchester will be going up. If they beat
    already-relegated Barrow tomorrow then Wycombe will have to beat Witton
    by at least 9 goals.
    
    The League decided to increase it's number of teams by two; since
    Aldershot have now disappeared why don't they allow two teams to go up
    from the Conference. Just a thought.
    
    jeff
13.256NEWOA::MORANWey not likely!!Fri May 01 1992 19:275
    re .252   -< Position in Div. 2 >-
    
    You left out Grimsby and Port Vale. Sunderland are safe.
    
    Tim 
13.257Who else ?BAHTAT::BLYTHELeeds United. Champions 91-92Fri May 01 1992 20:444
    Has any team come straight out of Div 2 and won the Championship ? Who
    else has done it after 2 seasons ?
    
    jb.
13.258Useless fact no. 1SUBURB::INV_LIBRARYWho hell he?!?Fri May 01 1992 20:455
    
    Forest got promoted in 1977, then won the Championship in 1978.
    
    jeff
    
13.259I Only Know of TwoESSB::BLONGThe Scousers Trophy Cabinet is EmptyFri May 01 1992 20:475
13.260Final Results & Table .... Luton finally go down.FORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Tue May 05 1992 14:2841
        Saturday 2nd May 1992

       Arsenal            5  -  1    Southampton        
       Aston Villa        2  -  0    Coventry City      
       Everton            2  -  1    Chelsea            
       Leeds Utd.         1  -  0    Norwich City       
       Man Utd.           3  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Notts County       2  -  1    Luton Town         
       Oldham Athletic    2  -  5    Man City           
       QPR                1  -  0    Crystal Palace     
       Sheffield Wed.     0  -  0    Liverpool          
       West Ham Utd.      3  -  0    Nottingham For     
       Wimbledon          3  -  0    Sheffield Utd.     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Leeds Utd.               42   22   16    4   74   37   82   37 
   2 Man Utd.                 42   21   15    6   63   33   78   30 
   3 Sheffield Wed.           42   21   12    9   62   49   75   13 
   4 Arsenal                  42   19   15    8   81   46   72   35 
   5 Man City                 42   20   10   12   61   48   70   13 
   6 Liverpool                42   16   16   10   47   40   64    7 
   7 Aston Villa              42   17    9   16   48   44   60    4 
   8 Nottingham For           42   16   11   15   60   58   59    2 
   9 Sheffield Utd.           42   16    9   17   65   63   57    2 
  10 Crystal Palace           42   14   15   13   53   61   57   -8 
  11 QPR                      42   12   18   12   48   47   54    1 
  12 Everton                  42   13   14   15   52   51   53    1 
  13 Wimbledon                42   13   14   15   53   53   53    0 
  14 Chelsea                  42   13   14   15   50   60   53  -10 
  15 Tottenham Hotspur        42   15    7   20   58   63   52   -5 
  16 Southampton              42   14   10   18   39   55   52  -16 
  17 Oldham Athletic          42   14    9   19   63   67   51   -4 
  18 Norwich City             42   11   12   19   47   63   45  -16 
  19 Coventry City            42   11   11   20   35   44   44   -9 
  20 Luton Town               42   10   12   20   38   71   42  -33 
  21 Notts County             42   10   10   22   40   62   40  -22 
  22 West Ham Utd.            42    9   11   22   37   59   38  -22 

Al
13.261The Ups & Downs of '92FORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Tue May 05 1992 14:2950
Here is a round up of the ups & downs for the Barclays League

Division 1

Champions	Leeds Utd.		European Champions Cup
Runners Up	Man Utd.		UEFA Cup

3rd		Sheffield Wed.		UEFA Cup

Relegated	Luton Town, Notts County, West Ham Utd.

Division 2

Champions	Ipswich Town
Runners Up	Middlesbrough

Play Offs	Derby County, Leicester City, Cambridge Utd., Blackburn Rovers

Relegated	Port Vale, Brighton & Hove Albion, Plymouth Argyle

Division 3

Champions	Brentford
Runners Up	Birmingham City

Play Offs	Stoke City, Huddersfield Town, Stockport County, Peterborough Utd

Relegated	Darlington, Shrewsbury Town, Torquay Utd, Bury

Division 4

Champions	Burnley
Runners Up	Rotherham
Promoted	Mansfield Town

Play Offs	Blackpool, Scunthorpe, Crewe Alex., Barnet/Rochdale

		Rochdale play Burnley in the last normal fixture of the season
		tonight. They need to win in order to take the final play off
		spot from Barnet. Whatever happens this has been an excellent
		first season for Barnet as a League side.

GM Vauxhall Conference

Champions	Colchester Utd.
Runners Up	Wycombe Wanderers.

Play Off dates in the next note

Al
13.262Play Off DatesFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Tue May 05 1992 14:3037
Sunday May 10

Div 2	Blackburn Rovers	v Derby County
	Cambridge Utd		v Leicester City

Div 3	Stockport County	v Stoke City

Div 4	Barnet/Rochdale		v Blackpool
	Crewe Alexandra		v Scunthorpe Utd

Monday May 11

Div 3	Peterborough Utd	v Huddersfield Town

Wednesday May 13

Div 2	Derby County		v Blackburn Rovers
	Leicester City		v Cambridge Utd

Div 3	Stoke City		v Stockport County

Div 4	Blackpool		v Barnet/Rochdale
	Scunthorpe Utd		v Crewe Alexandra

Thursday May 14

Div 3	Huddersfield Town	v Peterborough Utd

Finals ( At Wembley Stadium )

Div 4	Saturday May 23
Div 3	Sunday   May 24
Div 2   Monday   May 25

Best of luck to all teams

Al
13.263PEKING::NAGLEJTue May 05 1992 15:0012
    
    Its a shame about Wycombe losing out on goal difference. I reckon
    the League should consider putting Wycombe up with Colchester as 
    both teams are miles ahead of the rest this season.
    
    To have to do it all again next season is a bit harsh. The Wycombe
    team must be a tad cheesed off.
    
    As Jimmy Greaves said, "The conference is the hardest division to get 
    out of."
    
    JN.
13.264They might think its all overFUTURS::FLETCHERTue May 05 1992 15:565
    Re:Wycombe - What are they going to do about Aldershots place in the
    league. There are mutterings about Wycombe taking their place.
    
    Nigel
    
13.265Simple.TRUCKS::SANTCharity? Don't mind if I do, mate..Tue May 05 1992 16:045
    
    	Aldershot <=> Colchester. No relegation this year from Div.4 -
    	lucky Carlisle. Football League back to 93 members..
    
    	Andy.
13.266Wembley Patch??!!KBOMFG::TANNERVorsprung durch GuinnessTue May 05 1992 18:384
    
     I noticed that the Wembley patch didn't look in great shape during an
    American Football game last week, and this was at the start, it needs
    to improve a bit for saturday... Is kickoff 3pm gmt???? 
13.267Wembley is crapFUTURS::FLETCHERTue May 05 1992 19:228
    It didnt look too smart in the RL cup final on saturday - the pitch was
    almost bare in some places and you see could all those stupid marking
    they use in AM football - plus the pitch was covered for the Queen
    concert a week or so back.
    
    Time for a national footy stadium if you ask me.
    
    Nigel
13.268Kick off 3.19 pm, adverts allowingBAHTAT::BLYTHELeeds United. Champions 91-92Tue May 05 1992 20:257
    Now the league Season has finished (bar Rochdale - Burnley tonight and
    the play offs), thoughts turn to next season. For the Premier League,
    will Saturday at 3 kick off be the exception rather than the rule ? Can
    we look forward to Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday afternoon and
    Monday nights, decided a week in advance ? I hope not.
    
    jb.
13.269news ?ANNECY::ROWLAND_Aa slip of the tongueMon May 11 1992 17:325
    
    
    What's been happening so far in the play-offs then ?
    
    Adam.
13.270TRUCKS::SANTCharity? Don't mind if I do, mate..Mon May 11 1992 17:5019
    
       	erm..
    
    	Div.2 play-offs
    	
    	Cambridge 1-1 Leicester
    	Blackburn 4-2 Derby    (Blackburn 2-0 down after 15 mins!!!)
    
    	Div.3 play-offs
    
    	Stockport 1-0 Stoke
    	P'boro     v  Huddersfield  tonight
    
    	Div.4 play-offs
    
    	Crewe     2-2 Scunthorpe
    	Barnet    1-0 Blackpool
    
    	Andy.
13.271SUBURB::INV_LIBRARYWho hell he?!?Tue May 12 1992 12:318
    
    Div. 3 play-off:
    
    Peterborough 2 - 2  Huddersfield
    
    Posh equalised in the 88th minute.
    
    jeff
13.272Leicester vs BlackburnSUBURB::INV_LIBRARYWho hell he?!?Thu May 14 1992 12:2514
    
    Div. 2 play-offs:
    
    Derby  2 - 1  Blackburn         ( 4 - 5 on agg)
    
    Leicester  5 - 0  Cambridge     ( 6 - 1 on agg)
    
    The game at the Baseball ground seemed like a cracker; Derby had plenty
    of chances to score in the last few minutes, including one that smacked
    against the crossbar. 3 - 1 would have seen them through. Leicester
    stuffed Cambridge after United swapped a defender for a striker early
    in the second half (they were already 2 - 0 down, though).
    
    jeff
13.273BLKPUD::WATTERSONPThu May 14 1992 14:068
    
    Derby could also be in trouble with the League after one of there
    supporters thumped Speedie after the final whistle.
    
    Strange that, as I thought Speedie was one of the most
    loved/respected/admired players in the England........ :-)
    
    Paul
13.274At lastCHEFS::HOUSEBThu May 14 1992 16:338
    According to the Mirror :
    
    Speedie said he was punched in the face twice and kicked up the arse
    once.  A Derby fan has been arrested in connection with the incident.
    
    I'm chuffed really, I find Speedie an irritating little shite.
    
    		Brian.
13.275Not condoning violence but....PLUNDR::LOWEGDon't believe a wordThu May 14 1992 21:0917
    
    Well well well, it has taken a long time coming but I think it was
    inevitable that Speedie would end up getting a good hiding from a
    spectator.
    Every club he has played for he has goaded the opposing teams
    supporters. I have seen him doing it at Newcastle and only the "safety"
    fences stopped him from being lynched.. There is nothing worse than
    being gestured at by somebody you can't hold of and they knowing full
    well that you can't, which unfortunately Speedie seemed to specialise
    in..
    
    For those of you who don't know the feeling imagine your driving along
    in a mini and a flash tw*t pulls along side you in a Porsche then
    directs a 5 knuckle shuffle at you and speeds off. Very frustrating
    indeed..
    
    Gary..
13.276Cheat to win; if it fails, whingeSUBURB::INV_LIBRARYWho hell he?!?Fri May 15 1992 12:3514
    
    After watching the UEFA cup final and fulminating at the spectacular
    diving of some of the Torino players, I settled down to watch the
    play-off games expecting to see a good English cup tie; lots of
    physical effort, hard but fair. 
    
    Pa! No chance. First thing I see is a great five yard leap in the area
    by Speedie, followed by him practically assaulting the ref. for not
    giving a penalty. The ref. should have booked him for the dive
    (cheating) then sent him off for the protest.
    
    Failing that, he should have smacked him straight in the gob.
    
    jeff
13.277FORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Fri May 15 1992 13:5121
    
    	Div.3 play-offs
    
    	Stoke		1 - 1 Stockport		(1 - 2 on Agg)	**
    	Huddersfield 	1 - 2 Peterborough	(3 - 4 on Agg)
    
    	Div.4 play-offs
    
    	Scunthorpe 	beat  Crewe		Scunthorpe go through	**
    	Blackpool	2 - 0 Barnet		(2 - 1 on Agg)

** Can somenone confirm the scores??

Finals ( At Wembley )

Div 4	Sat 23rd May	Blackpool v Scunthorpe
Div 3	Sun 24th May	Stockport v Peterborough
Div 2	Mon 25th May	Blackburn v Leicester


	Al
13.278Playoff ScoresBAHTAT::BLYTHELeeds United. Champions 91-92Fri May 15 1992 13:534
    Scunthorpe 2 Crewe 0, 4-2 on aggregate I think
    Stockport - Stoke is correct
    
    jb.
13.279How did the play-offs finish??FORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Tue May 26 1992 15:006
I know the Blackburn - Leicester Score, but anyone know the other play off 
final scores??

Cheers

Al
13.280Full list...TRUCKS::SANTCharity? Don't mind if I do, mate..Tue May 26 1992 15:087
    
    	Peterboro 2 - 1 Stockport
    	Blackpool 1 - 1 Scunthorpe (Blackpool 4-3 on pens)
    
      +	Blackburn 1 - 0 Leicester
    
    	Andy.
13.281FORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Wed May 27 1992 14:066
Thanks Andy,

	Posh deserved it this year especially after their success in the 
Rumbelows Cup.

Al
13.282Leeds ! Leeds ! Leeds !ISEQ::MKEENANMon Aug 17 1992 16:245
    
    In the opening week of the new Premier league Leeds win .........
    and Arsenal,Liverpool and Manchester United all lose!!!!!!
    
    MK.
13.283Big five flopGALVIA::SPAINThere's always the U.S.Mon Aug 17 1992 17:085
    
    None of the big 5 managed to win this weekend.  Looks like it'll be
    another breakaway.
    
    Gary
13.284Another seasonFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Thu Aug 20 1992 13:5254
My Usual results service starts here

	Wed 19 Aug 1992

       Aston Villa         1  -  1    Leeds Utd.          
       Liverpool           2  -  1    Sheffield Utd.      
       Man Utd.            0  -  3    Everton             
       Middlesbrough       2  -  0    Man City            
       Norwich City        2  -  1    Chelsea             
       Oldham Athletic     1  -  1    Crystal Palace      
       QPR                 3  -  1    Southampton         
       Sheffield Wed.      2  -  0    Nottingham For      
       Tottenham Hotspur   0  -  2    Coventry City       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Norwich City               2    2    0    0    6    3    6    3 
   2 Coventry City              2    2    0    0    4    1    6    3 
   3 Everton                    2    1    1    0    4    1    4    3 
   4 QPR                        2    1    1    0    4    2    4    2 
   5 Sheffield Wed.             2    1    1    0    3    1    4    2 
   6 Blackburn Rovers           2    1    1    0    4    3    4    1 
   7 Leeds Utd.                 2    1    1    0    3    2    4    1 
   8 Ipswich Town               2    1    1    0    2    1    4    1 
   9 Middlesbrough              2    1    0    1    3    2    3    1 
  10 Sheffield Utd.             2    1    0    1    3    3    3    0 
  11 Liverpool                  2    1    0    1    2    2    3    0 
  12 Nottingham For             2    1    0    1    1    2    3   -1 
  13 Crystal Palace             2    0    2    0    4    4    2    0 
  14 Aston Villa                2    0    2    0    2    2    2    0 
  15 Oldham Athletic            2    0    2    0    2    2    2    0 
  16 Chelsea                    2    0    1    1    2    3    1   -1 
  17 Man City                   2    0    1    1    1    3    1   -2 
  18 Southampton                2    0    1    1    1    3    1   -2 
  19 Tottenham Hotspur          2    0    1    1    0    2    1   -2 
  20 Wimbledon                  2    0    0    2    1    3    0   -2 
  21 Arsenal                    2    0    0    2    2    5    0   -3 
  22 Man Utd.                   2    0    0    2    1    5    0   -4 


	So the season is less than a week old, and there are only 2 teams with a
100% record. Norwich & Coventry, and The Arse & Man U propping up the rest
without a point between them. I wonder what odds you'd have got on that happening
this time last week??

	I'll probably be eating my words come Christmas, but it looks like this
has the potential of being a really interesting season. No team has really set
the table alight, and with the big 5 all having trouble to get into gear, it will
give the smaller clubs a glimmer of hope.

	Here's hoping for a cracking season.

Al
13.285Results 22/23rd AugustFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Mon Aug 24 1992 17:1069
	Sat 22nd August

       Aston Villa         1  -  1    Southampton         
       Blackburn Rovers    1  -  0    Man City            
       Man Utd.            1  -  1    Ipswich Town        
       Middlesbrough       4  -  1    Leeds Utd.          
       Norwich City        1  -  1    Everton             
       Oldham Athletic     5  -  3    Nottingham For      
       QPR                 3  -  2    Sheffield Utd.      
       Sheffield Wed.      3  -  3    Chelsea             
       Tottenham Hotspur   2  -  2    Crystal Palace      
       Wimbledon           1  -  2    Coventry City       

	Sun 23rd August

       Liverpool           0  -  2    Arsenal             


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Coventry City              3    3    0    0    6    2    9    4 
   2 Norwich City               3    2    1    0    7    4    7    3 
   3 QPR                        3    2    1    0    7    4    7    3 
   4 Blackburn Rovers           3    2    1    0    5    3    7    2 
   5 Middlesbrough              3    2    0    1    7    3    6    4 
   6 Everton                    3    1    2    0    5    2    5    3 
   7 Oldham Athletic            3    1    2    0    7    5    5    2 
   8 Sheffield Wed.             3    1    2    0    6    4    5    2 
   9 Ipswich Town               3    1    2    0    3    2    5    1 
  10 Leeds Utd.                 3    1    1    1    4    6    4   -2 
  11 Crystal Palace             3    0    3    0    6    6    3    0 
  12 Aston Villa                3    0    3    0    3    3    3    0 
  13 Sheffield Utd.             3    1    0    2    5    6    3   -1 
  14 Arsenal                    3    1    0    2    4    5    3   -1 
  15 Liverpool                  3    1    0    2    2    4    3   -2 
  16 Nottingham For             3    1    0    2    4    7    3   -3 
  17 Chelsea                    3    0    2    1    5    6    2   -1 
  18 Southampton                3    0    2    1    2    4    2   -2 
  19 Tottenham Hotspur          3    0    2    1    2    4    2   -2 
  20 Man City                   3    0    1    2    1    4    1   -3 
  21 Man Utd.                   3    0    1    2    2    6    1   -4 
  22 Wimbledon                  3    0    0    3    2    5    0   -3 

	Only 3 games gone and only Coventry have a 100% record. I can't see
that lasting too much longer. They have QPR on Wednesday. While at the other end
The Arse finally got out of reverse with what was an emphatic victory at
Anfield, with the scoreline kept respectable with a fine display by James. Man U
Could only manage to get into neutral, with a great strike by Irwin from the
edge of the box. And there were only 3500 at Selhurst Park to watch Wimbledon
lose again. 

	The biggest shock came at Middlesbrough. They saw off champions Leeds
4-1 with the game as good as over in the first 8 minutes when Borough went 2 up.
Lennie Lawrence said that they put on the best show of professional football by
any team he's been in charge of. (That's not too surprisng when you condsider
his previous teams :-) )

	A great weekend for the front line with 40 goals being scored. All I can
say is I'm glad I'm not a defender this morning. Only Liverpool & Man City
failed to find the back of the net

	The highlight for me was Graeme Stuart's solo goal at Hillsbrough. He
picked up the ball in his own half. And with the help of some good running by
the forwards, was given the chance to get into the area and slot the ball past
Woods. If he came from the F.A. School of excellence then there is some hope for
the English game yet. BTW was Jeremy Beadle in charge at Hillsbrough on
Saturday?? :-)

	Al
13.286More resultsFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Thu Aug 27 1992 14:4268
After this weeks round of matches, here is a list of the scores and the new
table

Al

	Mon 24th

       Southampton         0  -  1    Man Utd.
            
	Tue 25th

       Crystal Palace      1  -  1    Sheffield Wed.      
       Everton             1  -  0    Aston Villa         
       Ipswich Town        2  -  2    Liverpool           
       Leeds Utd.          5  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur   
       Sheffield Utd.      2  -  2    Wimbledon

	Wed 26th

       Arsenal             2  -  0    Oldham Athletic     
       Chelsea             0  -  0    Blackburn Rovers    
       Coventry City       0  -  1    QPR                 
       Man City            3  -  1    Norwich City        



        Team Name             Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 QPR                        4    3    1    0    8    4   10    4 
   2 Coventry City              4    3    0    1    6    3    9    3 
   3 Everton                    4    2    2    0    6    2    8    4 
   4 Blackburn Rovers           4    2    2    0    5    3    8    2 
   5 Leeds Utd.                 4    2    1    1    9    6    7    3 
   6 Norwich City               4    2    1    1    8    7    7    1 
   7 Middlesbrough              3    2    0    1    7    3    6    4 
   8 Sheffield Wed.             4    1    3    0    7    5    6    2 
   9 Arsenal                    4    2    0    2    6    5    6    1 
  10 Ipswich Town               4    1    3    0    5    4    6    1 
  11 Oldham Athletic            4    1    2    1    7    7    5    0 
  12 Crystal Palace             4    0    4    0    7    7    4    0 
  13 Sheffield Utd.             4    1    1    2    7    8    4   -1 
  14 Man City                   4    1    1    2    4    5    4   -1 
  15 Liverpool                  4    1    1    2    4    6    4   -2 
  16 Man Utd.                   4    1    1    2    3    6    4   -3 
  17 Chelsea                    4    0    3    1    5    6    3   -1 
  18 Aston Villa                4    0    3    1    3    4    3   -1 
  19 Nottingham For             3    1    0    2    4    7    3   -3 
  20 Southampton                4    0    2    2    2    5    2   -3 
  21 Tottenham Hotspur          4    0    2    2    2    9    2   -7 
  22 Wimbledon                  4    0    1    3    4    7    1   -3 


	Saturday's matches

	Arsenal		v	Sheffield Wed.
	Chelsea		v	QPR
	Coventry City	v	Blackburn Rovers
	Crystal Palace	v	Norwich City
	Everton		v	Wimbledon
	Leeds Utd	v	Liverpool
	Man City	v	Oldham Athletic
	Nottingham For	v	Man Utd.
	Sheffield Utd	v	Aston Villa
	Southampton	v	Middlesbrough

	Sunday

	Ipswich	Town	v	Tottenham Hotspur
13.287Back from me hols...FORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Mon Sep 07 1992 16:1481
Well 3 rounds of matches to enter since I was last here, and here they are:-

	Sat 29th Aug

       Arsenal             2  -  1    Sheffield Wed.      
       Chelsea             1  -  0    QPR                 
       Coventry City       0  -  2    Blackburn Rovers    
       Crystal Palace      1  -  2    Norwich City        
       Everton             0  -  0    Wimbledon           
       Leeds Utd.          2  -  2    Liverpool           
       Man City            3  -  3    Oldham Athletic     
       Nottingham For      0  -  2    Man Utd.            
       Sheffield Utd.      0  -  2    Aston Villa         
       Southampton         2  -  1    Middlesbrough       

	Sun 30th Aug

       Ipswich Town        1  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur   

	Mon 31st Aug

       Norwich City        3  -  1    Nottingham For      

	Tue 1st Sept

       Liverpool           1  -  1    Southampton         
       Middlesbrough       2  -  2    Ipswich Town        
       Oldham Athletic     2  -  2    Leeds Utd.          
       Wimbledon           0  -  1    Man City            

	Wed 2nd Sept

       Aston Villa         1  -  3    Chelsea             
       Man Utd.            1  -  0    Crystal Palace      
       QPR                 0  -  0    Arsenal             
       Sheffield Wed.      1  -  2    Coventry City       
       Tottenham Hotspur   2  -  0    Sheffield Utd.      

	Sat 5th Sept

       Aston Villa         3  -  0    Crystal Palace      
       Blackburn Rovers    4  -  1    Nottingham For      
       Liverpool           2  -  1    Chelsea             
       Middlesbrough       2  -  0    Sheffield Utd.      
       Norwich City        1  -  0    Southampton         
       Oldham Athletic     0  -  1    Coventry City       
       QPR                 0  -  0    Ipswich Town        
       Sheffield Wed.      0  -  3    Man City            
       Tottenham Hotspur   2  -  1    Everton             
       Wimbledon           3  -  2    Arsenal             

	Sun 6th Sept

       Man Utd.            2  -  0    Leeds Utd.          



        Team Name             Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Norwich City               7    5    1    1   14    9   16    5 
   2 Coventry City              7    5    0    2    9    6   15    3 
   3 Blackburn Rovers           6    4    2    0   11    4   14    7 
   4 Man Utd.                   7    4    1    2    8    6   13    2 
   5 QPR                        7    3    3    1    8    5   12    3 
   6 Man City                   7    3    2    2   11    8   11    3 
   7 Middlesbrough              6    3    1    2   12    7   10    5 
   8 Arsenal                    7    3    1    3   10    9   10    1 
   9 Everton                    6    2    3    1    7    4    9    3 
  10 Aston Villa                7    2    3    2    9    7    9    2 
  11 Leeds Utd.                 7    2    3    2   13   12    9    1 
  12 Chelsea                    7    2    3    2   10    9    9    1 
  13 Ipswich Town               7    1    6    0    8    7    9    1 
  14 Liverpool                  7    2    3    2    9   10    9   -1 
  15 Tottenham Hotspur          7    2    3    2    7   11    9   -4 
  16 Oldham Athletic            7    1    4    2   12   13    7   -1 
  17 Sheffield Wed.             7    1    3    3    9   12    6   -3 
  18 Southampton                7    1    3    3    5    8    6   -3 
  19 Wimbledon                  7    1    2    4    7   10    5   -3 
  20 Crystal Palace             7    0    4    3    8   13    4   -5 
  21 Sheffield Utd.             7    1    1    5    7   14    4   -7 
  22 Nottingham For             6    1    0    5    6   16    3  -10 
13.288Results 12/13/14th SepFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Tue Sep 15 1992 15:2245
	Sat 12th Sep

       Arsenal             0  -  1    Blackburn Rovers    
       Chelsea             2  -  3    Norwich City        
       Crystal Palace      2  -  2    Oldham Athletic     
       Everton             0  -  2    Man Utd.            
       Ipswich Town        2  -  1    Wimbledon           
       Man City            0  -  1    Middlesbrough       
       Nottingham For      1  -  2    Sheffield Wed.      
       Sheffield Utd.      1  -  0    Liverpool           
       Southampton         1  -  2    QPR                 

	Sun 13th

       Leeds Utd.          1  -  1    Aston Villa         

	Mon 14th

       Coventry City       1  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur   


        Team Name             Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Norwich City               8    6    1    1   17   11   19    6 
   2 Coventry City              8    6    0    2   10    6   18    4 
   3 Blackburn Rovers           7    5    2    0   12    4   17    8 
   4 Man Utd.                   8    5    1    2   10    6   16    4 
   5 QPR                        8    4    3    1   10    6   15    4 
   6 Middlesbrough              7    4    1    2   13    7   13    6 
   7 Ipswich Town               8    2    6    0   10    8   12    2 
   8 Man City                   8    3    2    3   11    9   11    2 
   9 Aston Villa                8    2    4    2   10    8   10    2 
  10 Leeds Utd.                 8    2    4    2   14   13   10    1 
  11 Arsenal                    8    3    1    4   10   10   10    0 
  12 Everton                    7    2    3    2    7    6    9    1 
  13 Chelsea                    8    2    3    3   12   12    9    0 
  14 Sheffield Wed.             8    2    3    3   11   13    9   -2 
  15 Liverpool                  8    2    3    3    9   11    9   -2 
  16 Tottenham Hotspur          8    2    3    3    7   12    9   -5 
  17 Oldham Athletic            8    1    5    2   14   15    8   -1 
  18 Sheffield Utd.             8    2    1    5    8   14    7   -6 
  19 Southampton                8    1    3    4    6   10    6   -4 
  20 Wimbledon                  8    1    2    5    8   12    5   -4 
  21 Crystal Palace             8    0    5    3   10   15    5   -5 
  22 Nottingham For             7    1    0    6    7   18    3  -11 
13.289SHAWB1::WATTY::WATTERSONPThere are NO fish under the iceSat Sep 19 1992 21:009
    
    Some results....
    
    Aston Villa     	4-1		Liverpool
    (Saunders 2)
    
    Everton		0-2		Crystal Palace
    
    
13.290SHAWB1::WATTY::WATTERSONPThere are NO fish under the iceSat Sep 19 1992 21:1811
    
    
    Wimbledon 		1-1		Blackburn
    Jones sent off			Shearer
    
    
    Tottenham		1-1		Man Utd
    Durie              			Giggs
    
    
    Oldham		4-2		Ipswich
13.291:-(KERNEL::HAWLEYIWe fear changeSun Sep 20 1992 21:187
    re .289
    
    > Aston Villa         4-1             Liverpool
    
    try 4-2. makes no difference though.
    
    Ian.
13.292Full List & TableFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Tue Sep 22 1992 15:1548
	Sat 19th Sep

       Aston Villa         4  -  2    Liverpool
       Everton             0  -  2    Crystal Palace
       Norwich City        1  -  0    Sheffield Wed.
       Oldham Athletic     4  -  2    Ipswich Town
       QPR                 3  -  3    Middlesbrough
       Sheffield Utd.      1  -  1    Arsenal
       Southampton         1  -  1    Leeds Utd.
       Tottenham Hotspur   1  -  1    Man Utd.
       Wimbledon           1  -  1    Blackburn Rovers

	Sun 20th

       Man City            0  -  1    Chelsea

	Mon 21st

       Nottingham For      1  -  1    Coventry City


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Norwich City              9    7    1    1   18   11   22    7 
   2 Coventry City             9    6    1    2   11    7   19    4 
   3 Blackburn Rovers          9    5    3    1   15    8   18    7 
   4 Man Utd.                  9    5    2    2   11    7   17    4 
   5 QPR                       9    4    4    1   13    9   16    4 
   6 Middlesbrough             8    4    2    2   16   10   14    6 
   7 Aston Villa               9    3    4    2   14   10   13    4 
   8 Chelsea                   9    3    3    3   13   12   12    1 
   9 Ipswich Town              9    2    6    1   12   12   12    0 
  10 Everton                   9    3    3    3   10   10   12    0 
  11 Oldham Athletic           9    2    5    2   18   17   11    1 
  12 Leeds Utd.                9    2    5    2   15   14   11    1 
  13 Man City                  9    3    2    4   11   10   11    1 
  14 Arsenal                   9    3    2    4   11   11   11    0 
  15 Tottenham Hotspur         9    2    4    3    8   13   10   -5 
  16 Sheffield Wed.            9    2    3    4   11   14    9   -3 
  17 Liverpool                 9    2    3    4   11   15    9   -4 
  18 Crystal Palace            9    1    5    3   12   15    8   -3 
  19 Sheffield Utd.            9    2    2    5    9   15    8   -6 
  20 Southampton               9    1    4    4    7   11    7   -4 
  21 Wimbledon                 9    1    3    5    9   13    6   -4 
  22 Nottingham For            8    1    1    6    8   19    4  -11 


Al
13.293Results For this w/eFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Mon Sep 28 1992 14:5642
	Sat 26th

       Blackburn Rovers   2  -  0    Oldham Athletic    
       Chelsea            0  -  0    Nottingham For     
       Coventry City      1  -  1    Norwich City       
       Crystal Palace     1  -  2    Southampton        
       Ipswich Town       0  -  0    Sheffield Utd.     
       Leeds Utd.         2  -  0    Everton            
       Liverpool          2  -  3    Wimbledon          
       Man Utd.           0  -  0    QPR                
       Middlesbrough      2  -  3    Aston Villa        


	Sun 27th

       Sheffield Wed.     2  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur  


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Norwich City             10    7    2    1   19   12   23    7 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         10    6    3    1   17    8   21    9 
   3 Coventry City            10    6    2    2   12    8   20    4 
   4 Man Utd.                 10    5    3    2   11    7   18    4 
   5 QPR                      10    4    5    1   13    9   17    4 
   6 Aston Villa              10    4    4    2   17   12   16    5 
   7 Middlesbrough             9    4    2    3   18   13   14    5 
   8 Leeds Utd.               10    3    5    2   17   14   14    3 
   9 Chelsea                  10    3    4    3   13   12   13    1 
  10 Ipswich Town             10    2    7    1   12   12   13    0 
  11 Sheffield Wed.           10    3    3    4   13   14   12   -1 
  12 Everton                  10    3    3    4   10   12   12   -2 
  13 Man City                  9    3    2    4   11   10   11    1 
  14 Arsenal                   9    3    2    4   11   11   11    0 
  15 Oldham Athletic          10    2    5    3   18   19   11   -1 
  16 Southampton              10    2    4    4    9   12   10   -3 
  17 Tottenham Hotspur        10    2    4    4    8   15   10   -7 
  18 Wimbledon                10    2    3    5   12   15    9   -3 
  19 Liverpool                10    2    3    5   13   18    9   -5 
  20 Sheffield Utd.           10    2    3    5    9   15    9   -6 
  21 Crystal Palace           10    1    5    4   13   17    8   -4 
  22 Nottingham For            9    1    2    6    8   19    5  -11 
13.294SHAWB1::WATTY::WATTERSONPyokSat Oct 03 1992 20:0222
    
    Results....
    
    Blackburn 		7-1	Norwich
    
    Liverpool		1-0	Sheff Wed
    
    QPR			4-1	Tottenham
    
    Ipswich		4-2	Leeds
    
    Sheff Utd		2-0	Southampton
    
    Coventry		2-2	Crystal Palace
    
    Arsenal		2-1	Chelsea
    
    Man City		2-2 	Nottm For.
    
    Wimbledon		2-3	Aston Villa
    
    M'boro		1-1	Man Utd
13.295Complete pictureBIBROK::ROBERTSONAin't it marvelousMon Oct 05 1992 15:2429
Yesterday's result

       Oldham Athletic    1  -  0    Everton            


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         11    7    3    1   24    9   24   15 
   2 Norwich City             11    7    2    2   20   19   23    1 
   3 Coventry City            11    6    3    2   14   10   21    4 
   4 QPR                      11    5    5    1   17   10   20    7 
   5 Aston Villa              11    5    4    2   20   14   19    6 
   6 Man Utd.                 11    5    4    2   12    8   19    4 
   7 Arsenal                  11    5    2    4   14   12   17    2 
   8 Ipswich Town             11    3    7    1   16   14   16    2 
   9 Middlesbrough            10    4    3    3   19   14   15    5 
  10 Leeds Utd.               11    3    5    3   19   18   14    1 
  11 Oldham Athletic          11    3    5    3   19   19   14    0 
  12 Chelsea                  11    3    4    4   14   14   13    0 
  13 Man City                 11    3    3    5   13   13   12    0 
  14 Sheffield Wed.           11    3    3    5   13   15   12   -2 
  15 Everton                  11    3    3    5   10   13   12   -3 
  16 Liverpool                11    3    3    5   14   18   12   -4 
  17 Sheffield Utd.           11    3    3    5   11   15   12   -4 
  18 Southampton              11    2    4    5    9   14   10   -5 
  19 Tottenham Hotspur        11    2    4    5    9   19   10  -10 
  20 Crystal Palace           11    1    6    4   15   19    9   -4 
  21 Wimbledon                11    2    3    6   14   18    9   -4 
  22 Nottingham For           10    1    3    6   10   21    6  -11 
13.296Normal Service resumedBIBROK::ROBERTSONAin't it marvelousMon Oct 19 1992 14:5147
	Sat 17th Oct

       Chelsea            2  -  1    Ipswich Town       
       Crystal Palace     0  -  0    Man City           
       Everton            1  -  1    Coventry City      
       Leeds Utd.         3  -  1    Sheffield Utd.     
       Norwich City       2  -  1    QPR                
       Nottingham For     0  -  1    Arsenal            
       Sheffield Wed.     2  -  1    Oldham Athletic    
       Southampton        2  -  2    Wimbledon          
       Tottenham Hotspur  2  -  2    Middlesbrough      

	Sun 18th

       Man Utd.           2  -  2    Liverpool          


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Norwich City             12    8    2    2   22   20   26    2 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         11    7    3    1   24    9   24   15 
   3 Coventry City            12    6    4    2   15   11   22    4 
   4 QPR                      12    5    5    2   18   12   20    6 
   5 Man Utd.                 12    5    5    2   14   10   20    4 
   6 Arsenal                  12    6    2    4   15   12   20    3 
   7 Aston Villa              11    5    4    2   20   14   19    6 
   8 Leeds Utd.               12    4    5    3   22   19   17    3 
   9 Middlesbrough            11    4    4    3   21   16   16    5 
  10 Ipswich Town             12    3    7    2   17   16   16    1 
  11 Chelsea                  12    4    4    4   16   15   16    1 
  12 Sheffield Wed.           12    4    3    5   15   16   15   -1 
  13 Oldham Athletic          12    3    5    4   20   21   14   -1 
  14 Man City                 12    3    4    5   13   13   13    0 
  15 Everton                  12    3    4    5   11   14   13   -3 
  16 Liverpool                12    3    4    5   16   20   13   -4 
  17 Sheffield Utd.           12    3    3    6   12   18   12   -6 
  18 Southampton              12    2    5    5   11   16   11   -5 
  19 Tottenham Hotspur        12    2    5    5   11   21   11  -10 
  20 Wimbledon                12    2    4    6   16   20   10   -4 
  21 Crystal Palace           12    1    7    4   15   19   10   -4 
  22 Nottingham For           11    1    3    7   10   22    6  -12 

Tonight

	Aston Villa	v	Blackburn Rovers

Al
13.297BIBROK::ROBERTSONAin't it marvelousTue Oct 27 1992 16:1442
	Sat 24th

       Arsenal            2  -  0    Everton            
       Blackburn Rovers   0  -  0    Man Utd.           
       Coventry City      1  -  2    Chelsea            
       Ipswich Town       2  -  2    Crystal Palace     
       Man City           1  -  0    Southampton        
       Middlesbrough      1  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Oldham Athletic    1  -  1    Aston Villa        
       QPR                2  -  1    Leeds Utd.         
       Sheffield Utd.     0  -  0    Nottingham For     

	Sun 25th

       Liverpool          4  -  1    Norwich City       
       Wimbledon          1  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         13    7    5    1   24    9   26   15 
   2 Norwich City             13    8    2    3   23   24   26   -1 
   3 QPR                      13    6    5    2   20   13   23    7 
   4 Arsenal                  13    7    2    4   17   12   23    5 
   5 Coventry City            13    6    4    3   16   13   22    3 
   6 Aston Villa              13    5    6    2   21   15   21    6 
   7 Man Utd.                 13    5    6    2   14   10   21    4 
   8 Chelsea                  13    5    4    4   18   16   19    2 
   9 Middlesbrough            13    4    5    4   22   18   17    4 
  10 Leeds Utd.               13    4    5    4   23   21   17    2 
  11 Ipswich Town             13    3    8    2   19   18   17    1 
  12 Man City                 13    4    4    5   14   13   16    1 
  13 Liverpool                13    4    4    5   20   21   16   -1 
  14 Sheffield Wed.           13    4    4    5   16   17   16   -1 
  15 Oldham Athletic          13    3    6    4   21   22   15   -1 
  16 Everton                  13    3    4    6   11   16   13   -5 
  17 Sheffield Utd.           13    3    4    6   12   18   13   -6 
  18 Tottenham Hotspur        13    2    6    5   12   22   12  -10 
  19 Crystal Palace           13    1    8    4   17   21   11   -4 
  20 Wimbledon                13    2    5    6   17   21   11   -4 
  21 Southampton              13    2    5    6   11   17   11   -6 
  22 Nottingham For           13    2    4    7   11   22   10  -11 
13.298This weeks results & TableBIBROK::ROBERTSONAin't it marvelousMon Nov 02 1992 15:3342
	Sat 31st Oct
    
       Chelsea            1  -  2    Sheffield Utd.     
       Everton            1  -  3    Man City           
       Leeds Utd.         2  -  2    Coventry City      
       Man Utd.           0  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Norwich City       1  -  1    Middlesbrough      
       Nottingham For     0  -  1    Ipswich Town       
       Sheffield Wed.     0  -  0    Blackburn Rovers   
       Southampton        1  -  1    Oldham Athletic    
       Tottenham Hotspur  2  -  0    Liverpool          
    
	Sun 1st Nov
    
       Aston Villa        2  -  0    QPR                


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         14    7    6    1   24    9   27   15 
   2 Norwich City             14    8    3    3   24   25   27   -1 
   3 Aston Villa              14    6    6    2   23   15   24    8 
   4 QPR                      14    6    5    3   20   15   23    5 
   5 Arsenal                  13    7    2    4   17   12   23    5 
   6 Coventry City            14    6    5    3   18   15   23    3 
   7 Man Utd.                 14    5    6    3   14   11   21    3 
   8 Ipswich Town             14    4    8    2   20   18   20    2 
   9 Man City                 14    5    4    5   17   14   19    3 
  10 Chelsea                  14    5    4    5   19   18   19    1 
  11 Middlesbrough            14    4    6    4   23   19   18    4 
  12 Leeds Utd.               14    4    6    4   25   23   18    2 
  13 Sheffield Wed.           14    4    5    5   16   17   17   -1 
  14 Oldham Athletic          14    3    7    4   22   23   16   -1 
  15 Liverpool                14    4    4    6   20   23   16   -3 
  16 Sheffield Utd.           14    4    4    6   14   19   16   -5 
  17 Tottenham Hotspur        14    3    6    5   14   22   15   -8 
  18 Wimbledon                14    3    5    6   18   21   14   -3 
  19 Everton                  14    3    4    7   12   19   13   -7 
  20 Southampton              14    2    6    6   12   18   12   -6 
  21 Crystal Palace           13    1    8    4   17   21   11   -4 
  22 Nottingham For           14    2    4    8   11   23   10  -12 
    
13.299R2ME2::HINXMANI'll just sit here and rustSat Nov 07 1992 00:4646
	.298 doesn't square with the version I received over the Internet.
	Which is right?

	Tony

FA Premier League 31 Oct 1992

Chelsea                 1  Sheffield United        2   13763
Everton                 1  Manchester City         3   20242
Leeds United            2  Coventry City           2   28018
Manchester United       0  Wimbledon               1   32622
Norwich City            1  Middlesbrough           1   14499
Nottingham Forest       0  Ipswich Town            1   21411
Sheffield Wednesday     0  Blackburn Rovers        0   31044
Southampton             1  Oldham Athletic         0   10827
Tottenham Hotspur       2  Liverpool               0   32917

FA Premier League 1 Nov 1992

Aston Villa             2  QPR                     0   20140

FA Premier League at 1/11/1992
                           P  W  D  L   F   A Pts
 1. Blackburn Rovers      14  7  6  1  24   9  27
 2. Norwich City          14  8  3  3  24  25  27
 3. Aston Villa           14  6  6  2  23  15  24
 4. Queen's Park Rangers  14  6  5  3  20  15  23
 5. Arsenal               13  7  2  4  17  12  23
 6. Coventry City         14  6  5  3  18  15  23
 7. Manchester United     14  5  6  3  14  11  21
 8. Ipswich Town          14  4  8  2  20  18  20
 9. Manchester City       14  5  4  5  17  14  19
10. Chelsea               14  5  4  5  19  18  19
11. Middlesbrough         14  4  6  4  23  19  18
12. Leeds United          14  4  6  4  25  23  18
13. Sheffield Wednesday   14  4  5  5  16  17  17
14. Liverpool             14  4  4  6  20  23  16
15. Sheffield United      14  4  4  6  14  19  16
16. Oldham Athletic       14  3  6  5  21  23  15
17. Tottenham Hotspur     14  3  6  5  14  22  15
18. Wimbledon             14  3  5  6  18  21  14
19. Southampton           14  3  5  6  12  17  14
-------------------------------------------------
20. Everton               14  3  4  7  12  19  13
21. Crystal Palace        13  1  8  4  17  21  11
22. Nottingham Forest     14  2  4  8  11  23  10
13.300The Arse at the top - Shurely shome mishtakeBIBROK::ROBERTSONAin't it marvelousMon Nov 09 1992 12:2749
    -.1 is correct - I got the wrong score for the Southampton v Oldham
    game wrong last week 
    
    Al
    
    These are all correct (Unfortunately - look who's at the top :-)
    
	Sat 7th
    
       Arsenal            3  -  0    Coventry City      
       Aston Villa        1  -  0    Man Utd.           
       Blackburn Rovers   0  -  2    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Chelsea            3  -  1    Crystal Palace     
       Ipswich Town       0  -  0    Southampton        
       Liverpool          4  -  1    Middlesbrough      
       Man City           4  -  0    Leeds Utd.         :-(
       Nottingham For     0  -  1    Everton            
       Wimbledon          0  -  2    QPR                
    
    	Sun 8th
    
       Sheffield Utd.     1  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Arsenal                  15    9    2    4   22   13   29    9 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         15    7    6    2   24   11   27   13 
   3 Aston Villa              15    7    6    2   24   15   27    9 
   4 Norwich City             14    8    3    3   24   25   27   -1 
   5 QPR                      15    7    5    3   22   15   26    7 
   6 Coventry City            15    6    5    4   18   18   23    0 
   7 Man City                 15    6    4    5   21   14   22    7 
   8 Chelsea                  15    6    4    5   22   19   22    3 
   9 Ipswich Town             15    4    9    2   20   18   21    2 
  10 Man Utd.                 15    5    6    4   14   12   21    2 
  11 Liverpool                15    5    4    6   24   24   19    0 
  12 Middlesbrough            15    4    6    5   24   23   18    1 
  13 Sheffield Wed.           15    4    6    5   17   18   18   -1 
  14 Leeds Utd.               15    4    6    5   25   27   18   -2 
  15 Tottenham Hotspur        15    4    6    5   16   22   18   -6 
  16 Sheffield Utd.           15    4    5    6   15   20   17   -5 
  17 Everton                  15    4    4    7   13   19   16   -6 
  18 Oldham Athletic          14    3    6    5   21   23   15   -2 
  19 Southampton              15    3    6    6   12   17   15   -5 
  20 Wimbledon                15    3    5    7   18   23   14   -5 
  21 Crystal Palace           15    1    8    6   19   26   11   -7 
  22 Nottingham For           15    2    4    9   11   24   10  -13 
    
13.301I thought it was a mishtake :-)BIBROK::ROBERTSONAin't it marvelousTue Nov 10 1992 14:3815
    Result from last night
    
       Oldham Athletic    2  -  3    Norwich City       

    The top now looks like this.

        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Norwich City             15    9    3    3   27   27   30    0 
   2 Arsenal                  15    9    2    4   22   13   29    9 
   3 Blackburn Rovers         15    7    6    2   24   11   27   13 
   4 Aston Villa              15    7    6    2   24   15   27    9 
   5 QPR                      15    7    5    3   22   15   26    7 
   6 Coventry City            15    6    5    4   18   18   23    0 
   .
13.3021st Div. League Table..VAXVLS::CCASEYLiverpool now and forever..Thu Nov 12 1992 14:395
    Anyone got the Present 1st Division League Table or a pointer to a
    recent one..
    
    Colin..
    ^^^^^^^
13.303Results pleaseFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Mon Nov 23 1992 14:3512
Can someone give me the results of the following matches, as they're the
only ones I'm not sure about for this weekend.

I'll then post a complete list

	Middlesborough	v	Wimbledon (3-0???)
	Southampton	v	Blackburn


Cheers

Al
13.304XSTACY::KMCGRATHLong road, patient donkeyMon Nov 23 1992 14:4318
>>Can someone give me the results of the following matches, as they're the
>>only ones I'm not sure about for this weekend.
>>
>>I'll then post a complete list
>>
>>	Middlesborough	v	Wimbledon (3-0???)
>>	Southampton	v	Blackburn
>>
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Al


Soton 1 Blackburn 1

not sure aboiut the first, but Middlesbrough definitely won

13.305FUTURS::FLETCHERMon Nov 23 1992 14:484
    Middlesborough  v       Wimbledon (2-0)
    
    Nigel
    
13.306Full resultsFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Mon Nov 23 1992 16:0445
Thanks for the replies

Al

	Sat 21st

       Coventry City      2  -  3    Man City           
       Crystal Palace     1  -  1    Nottingham For     
       Everton            0  -  1    Chelsea            
       Leeds Utd.         3  -  0    Arsenal            
       Man Utd.           3  -  0    Oldham Athletic    
       Middlesbrough      2  -  0    Wimbledon          
       Norwich City       2  -  1    Sheffield Utd.     
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  1    Ipswich Town       
       Tottenham Hotspur  0  -  0    Aston Villa        

	Sun 22nd

       Southampton        1  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Norwich City             16   10    3    3   29   28   33    1 
   2 Arsenal                  16    9    2    5   22   16   29    6 
   3 Blackburn Rovers         16    7    7    2   25   12   28   13 
   4 Aston Villa              16    7    7    2   24   15   28    9 
   5 QPR                      15    7    5    3   22   15   26    7 
   6 Man City                 16    7    4    5   24   16   25    8 
   7 Chelsea                  16    7    4    5   23   19   25    4 
   8 Man Utd.                 16    6    6    4   17   12   24    5 
   9 Coventry City            16    6    5    5   20   21   23   -1 
  10 Ipswich Town             16    4   10    2   21   19   22    2 
  11 Middlesbrough            16    5    6    5   26   23   21    3 
  12 Leeds Utd.               16    5    6    5   28   27   21    1 
  13 Liverpool                15    5    4    6   24   24   19    0 
  14 Sheffield Wed.           16    4    7    5   18   19   19   -1 
  15 Tottenham Hotspur        16    4    7    5   16   22   19   -6 
  16 Sheffield Utd.           16    4    5    7   16   22   17   -6 
  17 Southampton              16    3    7    6   13   18   16   -5 
  18 Everton                  16    4    4    8   13   20   16   -7 
  19 Oldham Athletic          16    3    6    7   23   29   15   -6 
  20 Wimbledon                16    3    5    8   18   25   14   -7 
  21 Crystal Palace           16    1    9    6   20   27   12   -7 
  22 Nottingham For           16    2    5    9   12   25   11  -13 
13.307Just to be sure..VAXVLS::CCASEYLiverpool now and forever..Tue Nov 24 1992 11:3954
 <<< Note 13.306 by FORTY2::ROBERTSON "You don't wanna do it like that !!!!" >>>
                               -< Full results >-

Thanks for the replies

Al

	Sat 21st

       Coventry City      2  -  3    Man City           
       Crystal Palace     1  -  1    Nottingham For     
       Everton            0  -  1    Chelsea            
       Leeds Utd.         3  -  0    Arsenal            
       Man Utd.           3  -  0    Oldham Athletic    
       Middlesbrough      2  -  0    Wimbledon          
       Norwich City       2  -  1    Sheffield Utd.     
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  1    Ipswich Town       
       Tottenham Hotspur  0  -  0    Aston Villa        

	Sun 22nd

       Southampton        1  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   

        Mon 23rd
    
       Q.P.R.             0  -  1    Liverpool
    
        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Norwich City             16   10    3    3   29   28   33    1 
   2 Arsenal                  16    9    2    5   22   16   29    6 
   3 Blackburn Rovers         16    7    7    2   25   12   28   13 
   4 Aston Villa              16    7    7    2   24   15   28    9 
   5 QPR                      16    7    5    4   22   16   26    6 
   6 Man City                 16    7    4    5   24   16   25    8 
   7 Chelsea                  16    7    4    5   23   19   25    4 
   8 Man Utd.                 16    6    6    4   17   12   24    5 
   9 Coventry City            16    6    5    5   20   21   23   -1 
  10 Ipswich Town             16    4   10    2   21   19   22    2 
  11 Liverpool                16    6    4    6   25   24   22    1 
  12 Middlesbrough            16    5    6    5   26   23   21    3 
  13 Leeds Utd.               16    5    6    5   28   27   21    1 
  14 Sheffield Wed.           16    4    7    5   18   19   19   -1 
  15 Tottenham Hotspur        16    4    7    5   16   22   19   -6 
  16 Sheffield Utd.           16    4    5    7   16   22   17   -6 
  17 Southampton              16    3    7    6   13   18   16   -5 
  18 Everton                  16    4    4    8   13   20   16   -7 
  19 Oldham Athletic          16    3    6    7   23   29   15   -6 
  20 Wimbledon                16    3    5    8   18   25   14   -7 
  21 Crystal Palace           16    1    9    6   20   27   12   -7 
  22 Nottingham For           16    2    5    9   12   25   11  -13 

    
        
13.308Plus one goal!!!!KBOMFG::TANNERWe're one, but we're not the sameTue Nov 24 1992 11:595
   Its amazing to see Norwich 4 points clear of the Premier League with only
a plus one goal difference.... 

                                                                 -dave-
13.309It's quite amazingFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Tue Nov 24 1992 12:118
re -.1

I think that's mainly down to Blackburn in early October.

All but 2 of the games Norwich have won have been by the odd goal, and losing
7-1 & 4-1 to Blackburn & Liverpool respectfully has cancelled out those goals.

Al
13.310A Question for some Soccer Buff..VAXVLS::CCASEYLiverpool now and forever..Tue Nov 24 1992 12:167
    A Good thoughtful question here can anyone say what was the highest
    points total of a relagated side from the First/Premier division.  I'd
    be just curious to see is the standard of the League as a whole getting
    better or worse..
    
    Colin..
    ^^^^^^^
13.311Scores, Scorers & tablesFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Mon Nov 30 1992 13:4065
	Sat 28th

       Arsenal            0  -  1    Man Utd.
					Hughes           

       Aston Villa        2  -  3    Norwich City
	Houghton, Parker		Phillips,Beckford,Sutch       

       Blackburn Rovers   1  -  0    QPR 
	Shearer               

       Ipswich Town       1  -  0    Everton 
	johnson           

       Liverpool          5  -  0    Crystal Palace
	McMannaman 2
	Marsh, Rosenthal,
	Hutchinosn     

       Oldham Athletic    4  -  1    Middlesbrough
	Halle, Pointon			Falconer
	Sharpe, Adams      

       Man City           0  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur 
					Phelan o.g. 

       Wimbledon          1  -  1    Sheffield Wed.
	Jones (pen)			Bart-Williams     

       Sheffield Utd.     1  -  1    Coventry City      
	Pearce o.g.			Quinn

       Nottingham For     1  -  2    Southampton
	Clough				Le Tissier, Adams

	Sun 29th
        
       Chelsea            1  -  0    Leeds Utd.         
	Townsend


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Norwich City             17   11    3    3   32   30   36    2 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         17    8    7    2   26   12   31   14 
   3 Arsenal                  17    9    2    6   22   17   29    5 
   4 Aston Villa              17    7    7    3   26   18   28    8 
   5 Chelsea                  17    8    4    5   24   19   28    5 
   6 Man Utd.                 17    7    6    4   18   12   27    6 
   7 QPR                      17    7    5    5   22   17   26    5 
   8 Man City                 17    7    4    6   24   17   25    7 
   9 Liverpool                17    7    4    6   30   24   25    6 
  10 Ipswich Town             17    5   10    2   22   19   25    3 
  11 Coventry City            17    6    6    5   21   22   24   -1 
  12 Tottenham Hotspur        17    5    7    5   17   22   22   -5 
  13 Leeds Utd.               17    5    6    6   28   28   21    0 
  14 Middlesbrough            17    5    6    6   27   27   21    0 
  15 Sheffield Wed.           17    4    8    5   19   20   20   -1 
  16 Southampton              17    4    7    6   15   19   19   -4 
  17 Oldham Athletic          17    4    6    7   27   30   18   -3 
  18 Sheffield Utd.           17    4    6    7   17   23   18   -6 
  19 Everton                  17    4    4    9   13   21   16   -8 
  20 Wimbledon                17    3    6    8   19   26   15   -7 
  21 Crystal Palace           17    1    9    7   20   32   12  -12 
  22 Nottingham For           17    2    5   10   13   27   11  -14 
13.312Better late than never!!!FORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Thu Dec 10 1992 13:2942
	Sat 5th
       Coventry City      2  -  2    Ipswich Town       
       Crystal Palace     2  -  0    Sheffield Utd.     
       Leeds Utd.         1  -  4    Nottingham For     
       Middlesbrough      3  -  2    Blackburn Rovers   
       Norwich City       2  -  1    Wimbledon          
       QPR                3  -  2    Oldham Athletic    
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  2    Aston Villa        
       Southampton        2  -  0    Arsenal            
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  2    Chelsea

	Sun 6th            
       Man Utd.           2  -  1    Man City

	Mon 7th           
       Everton            2  -  1    Liverpool          


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Norwich City             18   12    3    3   34   31   39    3 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         18    8    7    3   28   15   31   13 
   3 Aston Villa              18    8    7    3   28   19   31    9 
   4 Chelsea                  18    9    4    5   26   20   31    6 
   5 Man Utd.                 18    8    6    4   20   13   30    7 
   6 QPR                      18    8    5    5   25   19   29    6 
   7 Arsenal                  18    9    2    7   22   19   29    3 
   8 Ipswich Town             18    5   11    2   24   21   26    3 
   9 Man City                 18    7    4    7   25   19   25    6 
  10 Liverpool                18    7    4    7   31   26   25    5 
  11 Coventry City            18    6    7    5   23   24   25   -1 
  12 Middlesbrough            18    6    6    6   30   29   24    1 
  13 Southampton              18    5    7    6   17   19   22   -2 
  14 Tottenham Hotspur        18    5    7    6   18   24   22   -6 
  15 Leeds Utd.               18    5    6    7   29   32   21   -3 
  16 Sheffield Wed.           18    4    8    6   20   22   20   -2 
  17 Everton                  18    5    4    9   15   22   19   -7 
  18 Oldham Athletic          18    4    6    8   29   33   18   -4 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           18    4    6    8   17   25   18   -8 
  20 Wimbledon                18    3    6    9   20   28   15   -8 
  21 Crystal Palace           18    2    9    7   22   32   15  -10 
  22 Nottingham For           18    3    5   10   17   28   14  -11 
13.313This w/e resultsFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Mon Dec 14 1992 13:3442
	Fri 11th
       Middlesbrough      0  -  0    Chelsea

	Sat 12th            
       Aston Villa        2  -  1    Nottingham For
       Ipswich Town       3  -  1    Man City           
       Leeds Utd.         3  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Man Utd.           1  -  0    Norwich City       
       QPR                1  -  3    Crystal Palace     
       Sheffield Utd.     1  -  0    Everton            
       Southampton        2  -  2    Coventry City      
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  0    Arsenal            
       Wimbledon          5  -  2    Oldham Athletic 

	Sun 13th   
       Liverpool          2  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Norwich City             19   12    3    4   34   32   39    2 
   2 Aston Villa              19    9    7    3   30   20   34   10 
   3 Man Utd.                 19    9    6    4   21   13   33    8 
   4 Chelsea                  19    9    5    5   26   20   32    6 
   5 Blackburn Rovers         19    8    7    4   29   17   31   12 
   6 Ipswich Town             19    6   11    2   27   22   29    5 
   7 QPR                      19    8    5    6   26   22   29    4 
   8 Arsenal                  19    9    2    8   22   20   29    2 
   9 Liverpool                19    8    4    7   33   27   28    6 
  10 Coventry City            19    6    8    5   25   26   26   -1 
  11 Man City                 19    7    4    8   26   22   25    4 
  12 Middlesbrough            19    6    7    6   30   29   25    1 
  13 Tottenham Hotspur        19    6    7    6   19   24   25   -5 
  14 Leeds Utd.               19    6    6    7   32   33   24   -1 
  15 Southampton              19    5    8    6   19   21   23   -2 
  16 Sheffield Utd.           19    5    6    8   18   25   21   -7 
  17 Sheffield Wed.           19    4    8    7   21   25   20   -4 
  18 Everton                  19    5    4   10   15   23   19   -8 
  19 Wimbledon                19    4    6    9   25   30   18   -5 
  20 Oldham Athletic          19    4    6    9   31   38   18   -7 
  21 Crystal Palace           19    3    9    7   25   33   18   -8 
  22 Nottingham For           19    3    5   11   18   30   14  -12 
13.314Results Results Results!!!FORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Tue Dec 22 1992 14:4949
	Sat 19th
       Arsenal            1  -  1    Middlesbrough      
       Blackburn Rovers   1  -  0    Sheffield Utd.     
       Coventry City      5  -  1    Liverpool          
       Everton            2  -  1    Southampton        
       Man City           1  -  1    Aston Villa        
       Chelsea            1  -  1    Man Utd.           
       Oldham Athletic    2  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  0    QPR
  
	Sun 20th              
       Crystal Palace     1  -  0    Leeds Utd.         
       Nottingham For     1  -  1    Wimbledon
          
	Mon 21st
       Norwich City       0  -  2    Ipswich Town       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Norwich City             20   12    3    5   34   34   39    0 
   2 Aston Villa              20    9    8    3   31   21   35   10 
   3 Blackburn Rovers         20    9    7    4   30   17   34   13 
   4 Man Utd.                 20    9    7    4   22   14   34    8 
   5 Chelsea                  20    9    6    5   27   21   33    6 
   6 Ipswich Town             20    7   11    2   29   22   32    7 
   7 Arsenal                  20    9    3    8   23   21   30    2 
   8 Coventry City            20    7    8    5   30   27   29    3 
   9 QPR                      20    8    5    7   26   23   29    3 
  10 Liverpool                20    8    4    8   34   32   28    2 
  11 Man City                 20    7    5    8   27   23   26    4 
  12 Middlesbrough            20    6    8    6   31   30   26    1 
  13 Tottenham Hotspur        20    6    7    7   20   26   25   -6 
  14 Leeds Utd.               20    6    6    8   32   34   24   -2 
  15 Sheffield Wed.           20    5    8    7   22   25   23   -3 
  16 Southampton              20    5    8    7   20   23   23   -3 
  17 Everton                  20    6    4   10   17   24   22   -7 
  18 Oldham Athletic          20    5    6    9   33   39   21   -6 
  19 Crystal Palace           20    4    9    7   26   33   21   -7 
  20 Sheffield Utd.           20    5    6    9   18   26   21   -8 
  21 Wimbledon                20    4    7    9   26   31   19   -5 
  22 Nottingham For           20    3    6   11   19   31   15  -12 



Merry Xmas and happy new year to you all


Al
13.315kickoff delayed to allow the home fans in :-)GALVIA::SPAINThere's always the U.S.Mon Dec 28 1992 19:165
    
    Anyone got any latest scores?  Some of us have to work and don't have
    access to a radio.  In particular how are Chelsea doing at Wimbledon?
    
    Gary.
13.316draws draws drawsUTROP1::JANSENReading Blondes have more funTue Dec 29 1992 09:487
rep -1

Gary,

another draw, this time goalless :-(

T_
13.317Boxing Day Results & TableFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Mon Jan 04 1993 13:5835
       Arsenal            0  -  0    Ipswich Town       
       Everton            2  -  2    Middlesbrough      
       Man City           2  -  0    Sheffield Utd.     
       Blackburn Rovers   3  -  1    Leeds Utd.         
       Norwich City       0  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Sheffield Wed.     3  -  3    Man Utd.           
       Crystal Palace     2  -  0    Wimbledon          
       Coventry City      3  -  0    Aston Villa        
       Chelsea            1  -  1    Southampton        


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Norwich City             21   12    4    5   34   34   40    0 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         21   10    7    4   33   18   37   15 
   3 Man Utd.                 21    9    8    4   25   17   35    8 
   4 Aston Villa              21    9    8    4   31   24   35    7 
   5 Chelsea                  21    9    7    5   28   22   34    6 
   6 Ipswich Town             21    7   12    2   29   22   33    7 
   7 Coventry City            21    8    8    5   33   27   32    6 
   8 Arsenal                  21    9    4    8   23   21   31    2 
   9 Man City                 21    8    5    8   29   23   29    6 
  10 QPR                      20    8    5    7   26   23   29    3 
  11 Liverpool                20    8    4    8   34   32   28    2 
  12 Middlesbrough            21    6    9    6   33   32   27    1 
  13 Tottenham Hotspur        21    6    8    7   20   26   26   -6 
  14 Sheffield Wed.           21    5    9    7   25   28   24   -3 
  15 Southampton              21    5    9    7   21   24   24   -3 
  16 Leeds Utd.               21    6    6    9   33   37   24   -4 
  17 Crystal Palace           21    5    9    7   28   33   24   -5 
  18 Everton                  21    6    5   10   19   26   23   -7 
  19 Oldham Athletic          20    5    6    9   33   39   21   -6 
  20 Sheffield Utd.           21    5    6   10   18   28   21  -10 
  21 Wimbledon                21    4    7   10   26   33   19   -7 
  22 Nottingham For           20    3    6   11   19   31   15  -12 
13.318Monday 28th Results & TableFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Mon Jan 04 1993 13:5836
       Aston Villa        1  -  0    Arsenal            
       Ipswich Town       2  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   
       Leeds Utd.         0  -  0    Norwich City       
       Liverpool          1  -  1    Man City           
       Man Utd.           5  -  0    Coventry City      
       Middlesbrough      0  -  1    Crystal Palace     
       QPR                4  -  2    Everton            
       Southampton        1  -  2    Sheffield Wed.     
       Tottenham Hotspur  2  -  1    Nottingham For     
       Wimbledon          0  -  0    Chelsea            


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Norwich City             22   12    5    5   34   34   41    0 
   2 Man Utd.                 22   10    8    4   30   17   38   13 
   3 Aston Villa              22   10    8    4   32   24   38    8 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         22   10    7    5   34   20   37   14 
   5 Ipswich Town             22    8   12    2   31   23   36    8 
   6 Chelsea                  22    9    8    5   28   22   35    6 
   7 QPR                      21    9    5    7   30   25   32    5 
   8 Coventry City            22    8    8    6   33   32   32    1 
   9 Arsenal                  22    9    4    9   23   22   31    1 
  10 Man City                 22    8    6    8   30   24   30    6 
  11 Liverpool                21    8    5    8   35   33   29    2 
  12 Tottenham Hotspur        22    7    8    7   22   27   29   -5 
  13 Middlesbrough            22    6    9    7   33   33   27    0 
  14 Sheffield Wed.           22    6    9    7   27   29   27   -2 
  15 Crystal Palace           22    6    9    7   29   33   27   -4 
  16 Leeds Utd.               22    6    7    9   33   37   25   -4 
  17 Southampton              22    5    9    8   22   26   24   -4 
  18 Everton                  22    6    5   11   21   30   23   -9 
  19 Oldham Athletic          20    5    6    9   33   39   21   -6 
  20 Sheffield Utd.           21    5    6   10   18   28   21  -10 
  21 Wimbledon                22    4    8   10   26   33   20   -7 
  22 Nottingham For           21    3    6   12   20   33   15  -13 
13.319Results 9th/10thFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Mon Jan 11 1993 13:4142
	Sat 9th

       Arsenal            1  -  1    Sheffield Utd.     
       Blackburn Rovers   0  -  0    Wimbledon          
       Chelsea            2  -  4    Man City           
       Coventry City      0  -  1    Nottingham For     
       Crystal Palace     0  -  2    Everton            
       Ipswich Town       1  -  2    Oldham Athletic    
       Leeds Utd.         2  -  1    Southampton        
       Liverpool          1  -  2    Aston Villa        
       Man Utd.           4  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Middlesbrough      0  -  1    QPR                

	Sun 10th

       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  0    Norwich City       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 23   11    8    4   34   18   41   16 
   2 Aston Villa              23   11    8    4   34   25   41    9 
   3 Norwich City             23   12    5    6   34   35   41   -1 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         23   10    8    5   34   20   38   14 
   5 Ipswich Town             23    8   12    3   32   25   36    7 
   6 QPR                      22   10    5    7   31   25   35    6 
   7 Chelsea                  23    9    8    6   30   26   35    4 
   8 Man City                 23    9    6    8   34   26   33    8 
   9 Arsenal                  23    9    5    9   24   23   32    1 
  10 Coventry City            23    8    8    7   33   33   32    0 
  11 Sheffield Wed.           23    7    9    7   28   29   30   -1 
  12 Liverpool                22    8    5    9   36   35   29    1 
  13 Tottenham Hotspur        23    7    8    8   23   31   29   -8 
  14 Leeds Utd.               23    7    7    9   35   38   28   -3 
  15 Middlesbrough            23    6    9    8   33   34   27   -1 
  16 Crystal Palace           23    6    9    8   29   35   27   -6 
  17 Everton                  23    7    5   11   23   30   26   -7 
  18 Oldham Athletic          21    6    6    9   35   40   24   -5 
  19 Southampton              23    5    9    9   23   28   24   -5 
  20 Sheffield Utd.           22    5    7   10   19   29   22  -10 
  21 Wimbledon                23    4    9   10   26   33   21   -7 
  22 Nottingham For           22    4    6   12   21   33   18  -12 
13.320Results 16th/17thFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Mon Jan 18 1993 12:5846
	16th

       Everton            2  -  0    Leeds Utd.         
       Man City           0  -  1    Arsenal            
       Norwich City       1  -  1    Coventry City      
       Nottingham For     3  -  0    Chelsea            
       Oldham Athletic    0  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   
       Sheffield Utd.     3  -  0    Ipswich Town       
       Southampton        1  -  0    Crystal Palace     
       Tottenham Hotspur  0  -  2    Sheffield Wed.     
       Wimbledon          2  -  0    Liverpool          

	17th

       Aston Villa        5  -  1    Middlesbrough      


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Aston Villa              24   12    8    4   39   26   44   13 
   2 Norwich City             24   12    6    6   35   36   42   -1 
   3 Man Utd.                 23   11    8    4   34   18   41   16 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         24   11    8    5   35   20   41   15 
   5 Ipswich Town             24    8   12    4   32   28   36    4 
   6 QPR                      22   10    5    7   31   25   35    6 
   7 Arsenal                  24   10    5    9   25   23   35    2 
   8 Chelsea                  24    9    8    7   30   29   35    1 
   9 Man City                 24    9    6    9   34   27   33    7 
  10 Sheffield Wed.           24    8    9    7   30   29   33    1 
  11 Coventry City            24    8    9    7   34   34   33    0 
  12 Liverpool                23    8    5   10   36   37   29   -1 
  13 Everton                  24    8    5   11   25   30   29   -5 
  14 Tottenham Hotspur        24    7    8    9   23   33   29  -10 
  15 Leeds Utd.               24    7    7   10   35   40   28   -5 
  16 Southampton              24    6    9    9   24   28   27   -4 
  17 Middlesbrough            24    6    9    9   34   39   27   -5 
  18 Crystal Palace           24    6    9    9   29   36   27   -7 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           23    6    7   10   22   29   25   -7 
  20 Wimbledon                24    5    9   10   28   33   24   -5 
  21 Oldham Athletic          22    6    6   10   35   41   24   -6 
  22 Nottingham For           23    5    6   12   24   33   21   -9 


	Playing tonight:

	QPR v Man. Utd
13.321Last nights resultFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Tue Jan 19 1993 15:1413
       QPR                1  -  3    Man Utd.           


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 24   12    8    4   37   19   44   18 
   2 Aston Villa              24   12    8    4   39   26   44   13 
   3 Norwich City             24   12    6    6   35   36   42   -1 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         24   11    8    5   35   20   41   15 
   5 Ipswich Town             24    8   12    4   32   28   36    4 
   6 QPR                      23   10    5    8   32   28   35    4 
   :
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13.322Weekend resultFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Mon Jan 25 1993 18:5714
       Coventry City      3  -  0    Oldham Athletic    


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 24   12    8    4   37   19   44   18 
   2 Aston Villa              24   12    8    4   39   26   44   13 
   3 Norwich City             24   12    6    6   35   36   42   -1 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         24   11    8    5   35   20   41   15 
   5 Ipswich Town             24    8   12    4   32   28   36    4 
   6 Coventry City            25    9    9    7   37   34   36    3 
   7 QPR                      23   10    5    8   32   28   35    4 
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13.323Tuesday's resultsFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Wed Jan 27 1993 13:1430
       Blackburn Rovers   2  -  5    Coventry City      
       Middlesbrough      2  -  1    Southampton        
       Oldham Athletic    0  -  1    Man City           
       Wimbledon          1  -  3    Everton            


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 24   12    8    4   37   19   44   18 
   2 Aston Villa              24   12    8    4   39   26   44   13 
   3 Norwich City             24   12    6    6   35   36   42   -1 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         25   11    8    6   37   25   41   12 
   5 Coventry City            26   10    9    7   42   36   39    6 
   6 Man City                 25   10    6    9   35   27   36    8 
   7 Ipswich Town             24    8   12    4   32   28   36    4 
   8 QPR                      23   10    5    8   32   28   35    4 
   9 Arsenal                  24   10    5    9   25   23   35    2 
  10 Chelsea                  24    9    8    7   30   29   35    1 
  11 Sheffield Wed.           24    8    9    7   30   29   33    1 
  12 Everton                  25    9    5   11   28   31   32   -3 
  13 Middlesbrough            25    7    9    9   36   40   30   -4 
  14 Liverpool                23    8    5   10   36   37   29   -1 
  15 Tottenham Hotspur        24    7    8    9   23   33   29  -10 
  16 Leeds Utd.               24    7    7   10   35   40   28   -5 
  17 Southampton              25    6    9   10   25   30   27   -5 
  18 Crystal Palace           24    6    9    9   29   36   27   -7 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           23    6    7   10   22   29   25   -7 
  20 Wimbledon                25    5    9   11   29   36   24   -7 
  21 Oldham Athletic          24    6    6   12   35   45   24  -10 
  22 Nottingham For           23    5    6   12   24   33   21   -9 
13.324Last night's gamesFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Thu Jan 28 1993 20:5531
       Aston Villa        3  -  1    Sheffield Utd.     
       Man Utd.           2  -  0    Nottingham For     
       Norwich City       4  -  2    Crystal Palace     
       QPR                1  -  1    Chelsea            
       Tottenham Hotspur  0  -  2    Ipswich Town       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 25   13    8    4   39   19   47   20 
   2 Aston Villa              25   13    8    4   42   27   47   15 
   3 Norwich City             25   13    6    6   39   38   45    1 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         25   11    8    6   37   25   41   12 
   5 Coventry City            26   10    9    7   42   36   39    6 
   6 Ipswich Town             25    9   12    4   34   28   39    6 
   7 Man City                 25   10    6    9   35   27   36    8 
   8 QPR                      24   10    6    8   33   29   36    4 
   9 Chelsea                  25    9    9    7   31   30   36    1 
  10 Arsenal                  24   10    5    9   25   23   35    2 
  11 Sheffield Wed.           24    8    9    7   30   29   33    1 
  12 Everton                  25    9    5   11   28   31   32   -3 
  13 Middlesbrough            25    7    9    9   36   40   30   -4 
  14 Liverpool                23    8    5   10   36   37   29   -1 
  15 Tottenham Hotspur        25    7    8   10   23   35   29  -12 
  16 Leeds Utd.               24    7    7   10   35   40   28   -5 
  17 Southampton              25    6    9   10   25   30   27   -5 
  18 Crystal Palace           25    6    9   10   31   40   27   -9 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           24    6    7   11   23   32   25   -9 
  20 Wimbledon                25    5    9   11   29   36   24   -7 
  21 Oldham Athletic          24    6    6   12   35   45   24  -10 
  22 Nottingham For           24    5    6   13   24   35   21  -11 
13.325BLKPUD::WATTERSONPTax passive smokersSat Jan 30 1993 19:5914
    
    Saturday scores
    
    Chelsea 	0-2 	Sheff Wed
    Coventry	0-2	Wimbledon
    Crystal Pal 1-3	Tottenham
    Everton	0-1	Norwich
    Ipswich	2-1 	Man Utd
    Leeds	3-0	M'boro
    Man City	3-2	Blackburn
    Nottm For	2-0	Oldham
    Sheff Utd	1-2	QPR
    Southampton 2-0	Aston Villa
                                   
13.326Sunday Score Plus tableFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Mon Feb 01 1993 16:3527
       Arsenal            0  -  1    Liverpool          


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Norwich City             26   14    6    6   40   38   48    2 
   2 Man Utd.                 26   13    8    5   40   21   47   19 
   3 Aston Villa              26   13    8    5   42   29   47   13 
   4 Ipswich Town             26   10   12    4   36   29   42    7 
   5 Blackburn Rovers         26   11    8    7   39   28   41   11 
   6 Man City                 26   11    6    9   38   29   39    9 
   7 QPR                      25   11    6    8   35   30   39    5 
   8 Coventry City            27   10    9    8   42   38   39    4 
   9 Sheffield Wed.           25    9    9    7   32   29   36    3 
  10 Chelsea                  26    9    9    8   31   32   36   -1 
  11 Arsenal                  25   10    5   10   25   24   35    1 
  12 Liverpool                24    9    5   10   37   37   32    0 
  13 Everton                  26    9    5   12   28   32   32   -4 
  14 Tottenham Hotspur        26    8    8   10   26   36   32  -10 
  15 Leeds Utd.               25    8    7   10   38   40   31   -2 
  16 Southampton              26    7    9   10   27   30   30   -3 
  17 Middlesbrough            26    7    9   10   36   43   30   -7 
  18 Wimbledon                26    6    9   11   31   36   27   -5 
  19 Crystal Palace           26    6    9   11   32   43   27  -11 
  20 Sheffield Utd.           25    6    7   12   24   34   25  -10 
  21 Nottingham For           25    6    6   13   26   35   24   -9 
  22 Oldham Athletic          25    6    6   13   35   47   24  -12 
13.327This week'sFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Mon Feb 08 1993 14:3839
	Sat 6th
       Aston Villa        2  -  0    Ipswich Town       
       Liverpool          0  -  0    Nottingham For     
       Man Utd.           2  -  1    Sheffield Utd.     
       Middlesbrough      0  -  2    Coventry City      
       Oldham Athletic    3  -  0    Chelsea            
       QPR                1  -  1    Man City           
       Sheffield Wed.     3  -  1    Everton            
       Wimbledon          1  -  0    Leeds Utd. 

	Sun 7th        
       Tottenham Hotspur  4  -  2    Southampton        


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 27   14    8    5   42   22   50   20 
   2 Aston Villa              27   14    8    5   44   29   50   15 
   3 Norwich City             26   14    6    6   40   38   48    2 
   4 Coventry City            28   11    9    8   44   38   42    6 
   5 Ipswich Town             27   10   12    5   36   31   42    5 
   6 Blackburn Rovers         27   11    8    8   40   30   41   10 
   7 Man City                 27   11    7    9   39   30   40    9 
   8 QPR                      26   11    7    8   36   31   40    5 
   9 Sheffield Wed.           26   10    9    7   35   30   39    5 
  10 Chelsea                  27    9    9    9   31   35   36   -4 
  11 Arsenal                  25   10    5   10   25   24   35    1 
  12 Tottenham Hotspur        27    9    8   10   30   38   35   -8 
  13 Liverpool                25    9    6   10   37   37   33    0 
  14 Everton                  27    9    5   13   29   35   32   -6 
  15 Leeds Utd.               26    8    7   11   38   41   31   -3 
  16 Wimbledon                27    7    9   11   32   36   30   -4 
  17 Southampton              27    7    9   11   29   34   30   -5 
  18 Middlesbrough            27    7    9   11   36   45   30   -9 
  19 Crystal Palace           27    7    9   11   34   44   30  -10 
  20 Oldham Athletic          26    7    6   13   38   47   27   -9 
  21 Nottingham For           26    6    7   13   26   35   25   -9 
  22 Sheffield Utd.           26    6    7   13   25   36   25  -11 
13.328Midweek resultsFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Fri Feb 12 1993 17:3039
	Mon 8th
       Leeds Utd.         0  -  0    Man Utd.           

	Tue 9th
       Ipswich Town       1  -  1    QPR                
       Sheffield Utd.     2  -  0    Middlesbrough      

	Wed 10th
       Arsenal            0  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Chelsea            0  -  0    Liverpool          
       Crystal Palace     1  -  0    Aston Villa        
       Everton            1  -  2    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Southampton        3  -  0    Norwich City       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 28   14    9    5   42   22   51   20 
   2 Aston Villa              28   14    8    6   44   30   50   14 
   3 Norwich City             27   14    6    7   40   41   48   -1 
   4 Ipswich Town             28   10   13    5   37   32   43    5 
   5 Coventry City            28   11    9    8   44   38   42    6 
   6 Blackburn Rovers         27   11    8    8   40   30   41   10 
   7 QPR                      27   11    8    8   37   32   41    5 
   8 Man City                 27   11    7    9   39   30   40    9 
   9 Sheffield Wed.           26   10    9    7   35   30   39    5 
  10 Tottenham Hotspur        28   10    8   10   32   39   38   -7 
  11 Chelsea                  28    9   10    9   31   35   37   -4 
  12 Arsenal                  26   10    5   11   25   25   35    0 
  13 Liverpool                26    9    7   10   37   37   34    0 
  14 Southampton              28    8    9   11   32   34   33   -2 
  15 Wimbledon                28    8    9   11   33   36   33   -3 
  16 Crystal Palace           28    8    9   11   35   44   33   -9 
  17 Leeds Utd.               27    8    8   11   38   41   32   -3 
  18 Everton                  28    9    5   14   30   37   32   -7 
  19 Middlesbrough            28    7    9   12   36   47   30  -11 
  20 Sheffield Utd.           27    7    7   13   27   36   28   -9 
  21 Oldham Athletic          26    7    6   13   38   47   27   -9 
  22 Nottingham For           26    6    7   13   26   35   25   -9 
13.329Keep an eye on WednesdayESSB::BLONGEurope is Scouse FreeFri Feb 12 1993 20:150
13.330You mean the 17th? (:==:)AIMTEC::WICKS_AWALES 10 England 9Fri Feb 12 1993 20:191
    What's happening next Wednesday?
13.331Sat 13thFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Mon Feb 15 1993 13:5629
       Chelsea            0  -  1    Aston Villa        
       Leeds Utd.         2  -  0    Oldham Athletic    
       Southampton        2  -  1    Liverpool          


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Aston Villa              29   15    8    6   45   30   53   15 
   2 Man Utd.                 28   14    9    5   42   22   51   20 
   3 Norwich City             27   14    6    7   40   41   48   -1 
   4 Ipswich Town             28   10   13    5   37   32   43    5 
   5 Coventry City            28   11    9    8   44   38   42    6 
   6 Blackburn Rovers         27   11    8    8   40   30   41   10 
   7 QPR                      27   11    8    8   37   32   41    5 
   8 Man City                 27   11    7    9   39   30   40    9 
   9 Sheffield Wed.           26   10    9    7   35   30   39    5 
  10 Tottenham Hotspur        28   10    8   10   32   39   38   -7 
  11 Chelsea                  29    9   10   10   31   36   37   -5 
  12 Southampton              29    9    9   11   34   35   36   -1 
  13 Arsenal                  26   10    5   11   25   25   35    0 
  14 Leeds Utd.               28    9    8   11   40   41   35   -1 
  15 Liverpool                27    9    7   11   38   39   34   -1 
  16 Wimbledon                28    8    9   11   33   36   33   -3 
  17 Crystal Palace           28    8    9   11   35   44   33   -9 
  18 Everton                  28    9    5   14   30   37   32   -7 
  19 Middlesbrough            28    7    9   12   36   47   30  -11 
  20 Sheffield Utd.           27    7    7   13   27   36   28   -9 
  21 Oldham Athletic          27    7    6   14   38   49   27  -11 
  22 Nottingham For           26    6    7   13   26   35   25   -9 
13.332Weekend resultsFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Mon Feb 22 1993 14:0842
	Sat 20th

       Aston Villa        2  -  1    Everton            
       Liverpool          0  -  0    Ipswich Town       
       Man Utd.           2  -  1    Southampton        
       Middlesbrough      1  -  2    Nottingham For     
       Norwich City       2  -  1    Man City           
       Oldham Athletic    0  -  1    Arsenal            
       QPR                2  -  0    Coventry City      
       Sheffield Wed.     2  -  1    Crystal Palace     
       Tottenham Hotspur  4  -  0    Leeds Utd.         
       Wimbledon          2  -  0    Sheffield Utd.     

	Sun 21st

       Blackburn Rovers   2  -  0    Chelsea            


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Aston Villa              30   16    8    6   47   31   56   16 
   2 Man Utd.                 29   15    9    5   44   23   54   21 
   3 Norwich City             28   15    6    7   42   42   51    0 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         28   12    8    8   42   30   44   12 
   5 QPR                      28   12    8    8   39   32   44    7 
   6 Ipswich Town             29   10   14    5   37   32   44    5 
   7 Sheffield Wed.           27   11    9    7   37   31   42    6 
   8 Coventry City            29   11    9    9   44   40   42    4 
   9 Tottenham Hotspur        29   11    8   10   36   39   41   -3 
  10 Man City                 28   11    7   10   40   32   40    8 
  11 Arsenal                  27   11    5   11   26   25   38    1 
  12 Chelsea                  30    9   10   11   31   38   37   -7 
  13 Wimbledon                29    9    9   11   35   36   36   -1 
  14 Southampton              30    9    9   12   35   37   36   -2 
  15 Liverpool                28    9    8   11   38   39   35   -1 
  16 Leeds Utd.               29    9    8   12   40   45   35   -5 
  17 Crystal Palace           29    8    9   12   36   46   33  -10 
  18 Everton                  29    9    5   15   31   39   32   -8 
  19 Middlesbrough            29    7    9   13   37   49   30  -12 
  20 Nottingham For           27    7    7   13   28   36   28   -8 
  21 Sheffield Utd.           28    7    7   14   27   38   28  -11 
  22 Oldham Athletic          28    7    6   15   38   50   27  -12 
13.333Relegation battle last nightFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Tue Feb 23 1993 12:3711
       Sheffield Utd.     2  -  0    Oldham Athletic    


  17 Crystal Palace           29    8    9   12   36   46   33  -10 
  18 Everton                  29    9    5   15   31   39   32   -8 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           29    8    7   14   29   38   31   -9 
  20 Middlesbrough            29    7    9   13   37   49   30  -12 
  21 Nottingham For           27    7    7   13   28   36   28   -8 
  22 Oldham Athletic          29    7    6   16   38   52   27  -14 

Al
13.334Few more resultsFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Thu Feb 25 1993 13:4336
	Tues 23rd
       Man City           1  -  2    Sheffield Wed.     

	Wed 24th
       Arsenal            0  -  0    Leeds Utd.         
       Nottingham For     1  -  0    QPR                


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Aston Villa              30   16    8    6   47   31   56   16 
   2 Man Utd.                 29   15    9    5   44   23   54   21 
   3 Norwich City             28   15    6    7   42   42   51    0 
   4 Sheffield Wed.           28   12    9    7   39   32   45    7 
   5 Blackburn Rovers         28   12    8    8   42   30   44   12 
   6 QPR                      29   12    8    9   39   33   44    6 
   7 Ipswich Town             29   10   14    5   37   32   44    5 
   8 Coventry City            29   11    9    9   44   40   42    4 
   9 Tottenham Hotspur        29   11    8   10   36   39   41   -3 
  10 Man City                 29   11    7   11   41   34   40    7 
  11 Arsenal                  28   11    6   11   26   25   39    1 
  12 Chelsea                  30    9   10   11   31   38   37   -7 
  13 Wimbledon                29    9    9   11   35   36   36   -1 
  14 Southampton              30    9    9   12   35   37   36   -2 
  15 Leeds Utd.               30    9    9   12   40   45   36   -5 
  16 Liverpool                28    9    8   11   38   39   35   -1 
  17 Crystal Palace           29    8    9   12   36   46   33  -10 
  18 Everton                  29    9    5   15   31   39   32   -8 
  19 Nottingham For           28    8    7   13   29   36   31   -7 
  20 Sheffield Utd.           29    8    7   14   29   38   31   -9 
  21 Middlesbrough            29    7    9   13   37   49   30  -12 
  22 Oldham Athletic          29    7    6   16   38   52   27  -14 

Arsenal haven't won a home league game since November!!
Leeds first clean sheet away from Elland Road since April
Notts Forest out of bottom 3 for the first time since Sept.
13.335Last weekend's resultsFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Tue Mar 02 1993 14:0045
	Sat
       Aston Villa        1  -  0    Wimbledon          
       Crystal Palace     0  -  0    Coventry City      
       Everton            2  -  2    Oldham Athletic    
       Leeds Utd.         1  -  0    Ipswich Town       
       Man Utd.           3  -  0    Middlesbrough      
       Nottingham For     0  -  2    Man City           
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  1    Liverpool          
       Southampton        3  -  2    Sheffield Utd.     
       Tottenham Hotspur  3  -  2    QPR                

	Sun
       Norwich City       0  -  0    Blackburn Rovers   

	Mon
       Chelsea            1  -  0    Arsenal            


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Aston Villa              31   17    8    6   48   31   59   17 
   2 Man Utd.                 30   16    9    5   47   23   57   24 
   3 Norwich City             29   15    7    7   42   42   52    0 
   4 Sheffield Wed.           29   12   10    7   40   33   46    7 
   5 Blackburn Rovers         29   12    9    8   42   30   45   12 
   6 QPR                      30   12    8   10   41   36   44    5 
   7 Ipswich Town             30   10   14    6   37   33   44    4 
   8 Tottenham Hotspur        30   12    8   10   39   41   44   -2 
   9 Man City                 30   12    7   11   43   34   43    9 
  10 Coventry City            30   11   10    9   44   40   43    4 
  11 Chelsea                  31   10   10   11   32   38   40   -6 
  12 Arsenal                  29   11    6   12   26   26   39    0 
  13 Southampton              31   10    9   12   38   39   39   -1 
  14 Leeds Utd.               31   10    9   12   41   45   39   -4 
  15 Liverpool                29    9    9   11   39   40   36   -1 
  16 Wimbledon                30    9    9   12   35   37   36   -2 
  17 Crystal Palace           30    8   10   12   36   46   34  -10 
  18 Everton                  30    9    6   15   33   41   33   -8 
  19 Nottingham For           29    8    7   14   29   38   31   -9 
  20 Sheffield Utd.           30    8    7   15   31   41   31  -10 
  21 Middlesbrough            30    7    9   14   37   52   30  -15 
  22 Oldham Athletic          30    7    7   16   40   54   28  -14 


Al
13.336EBYGUM::WATTERSONPanother day another billSat Mar 06 1993 19:568
    
    Saturday results...
    
    Liverpool 	1-2	Man Utd
    QPR		3-1 	Norwich
    Wimbledon	1-2	Southampton
    
    Paul
13.337Sunday's resultFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Mon Mar 08 1993 13:1727
      Coventry City      0  -  1    Everton            


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 31   17    9    5   49   24   60   25 
   2 Aston Villa              31   17    8    6   48   31   59   17 
   3 Norwich City             31   15    8    8   44   46   53   -2 
   4 QPR                      31   13    8   10   44   37   47    7 
   5 Sheffield Wed.           30   12   10    8   40   34   46    6 
   6 Coventry City            32   12   10   10   45   41   46    4 
   7 Blackburn Rovers         30   12    9    9   43   32   45   11 
   8 Ipswich Town             31   10   14    7   37   34   44    3 
   9 Tottenham Hotspur        31   12    8   11   39   47   44   -8 
  10 Man City                 30   12    7   11   43   34   43    9 
  11 Southampton              32   11    9   12   40   40   42    0 
  12 Arsenal                  30   11    7   12   27   27   40    0 
  13 Chelsea                  31   10   10   11   32   38   40   -6 
  14 Leeds Utd.               31   10    9   12   41   45   39   -4 
  15 Everton                  32   11    6   15   36   42   39   -6 
  16 Liverpool                30    9    9   12   40   42   36   -2 
  17 Wimbledon                31    9    9   13   36   39   36   -3 
  18 Crystal Palace           31    8   11   12   37   47   35  -10 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           31    9    7   15   37   41   34   -4 
  20 Middlesbrough            31    8    9   14   38   52   33  -14 
  21 Nottingham For           30    8    8   14   30   39   32   -9 
  22 Oldham Athletic          30    7    7   16   40   54   28  -14 
13.338TRUCKS::SANTNostalgia *is* what it used to be...Thu Mar 11 1993 13:3114
    
    	Results this week (from memory - prone to error!):
    
    	Oldham      1 - 0 Man Utd     I know this one's right 8-(
    	Aston Villa 0 - 0 Spurs
    	Liverpool   1 - 0 QPR
    	Man City    1 - 0 Coventry
    	Sheff Utd   0 - 1 Norwich
    	Chelsea     2 - 1 Everton
    	Wimbledon   2 - 0 Middlesboro
    	Ipswich     0 - 1 Sheff Wed
    	Blackburn   0 - 0 Southampton
    
    	Andy.
13.339ResultsFORTY2::ROBERTSONYou don't wanna do it like that !!!!Thu Mar 11 1993 13:3738
	Tues
       Blackburn Rovers   0  -  0    Southampton        
       Oldham Athletic    1  -  0    Man Utd.           
       Wimbledon          2  -  0    Middlesbrough

	Wed      
       Aston Villa        0  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Chelsea            2  -  1    Everton            
       Ipswich Town       0  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Liverpool          1  -  0    QPR                
       Man City           1  -  0    Coventry City      
       Sheffield Utd.     0  -  1    Norwich City       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 32   17    9    6   49   25   60   24 
   2 Aston Villa              32   17    9    6   48   31   60   17 
   3 Norwich City             32   16    8    8   45   46   56   -1 
   4 Sheffield Wed.           31   13   10    8   41   34   49    7 
   5 QPR                      32   13    8   11   44   38   47    6 
   6 Blackburn Rovers         31   12   10    9   43   32   46   11 
   7 Man City                 31   13    7   11   44   34   46   10 
   8 Coventry City            33   12   10   11   45   42   46    3 
   9 Tottenham Hotspur        32   12    9   11   39   47   45   -8 
  10 Ipswich Town             32   10   14    8   37   35   44    2 
  11 Southampton              33   11   10   12   40   40   43    0 
  12 Chelsea                  32   11   10   11   34   39   43   -5 
  13 Arsenal                  30   11    7   12   27   27   40    0 
  14 Liverpool                31   10    9   12   41   42   39   -1 
  15 Wimbledon                32   10    9   13   38   39   39   -1 
  16 Leeds Utd.               31   10    9   12   41   45   39   -4 
  17 Everton                  33   11    6   16   37   44   39   -7 
  18 Crystal Palace           31    8   11   12   37   47   35  -10 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           32    9    7   16   37   42   34   -5 
  20 Middlesbrough            32    8    9   15   38   54   33  -16 
  21 Nottingham For           30    8    8   14   30   39   32   -9 
  22 Oldham Athletic          31    8    7   16   41   54   31  -13 
13.340Results/TableFORTY2::ROBERTSONBlah! Blah! Yackety SchmacketyMon Mar 15 1993 15:2536
       Coventry City      0  -  2    Arsenal            
       Everton            3  -  0    Nottingham For     
       Leeds Utd.         1  -  0    Man City           
       Middlesbrough      1  -  2    Liverpool          
       Norwich City       1  -  0    Oldham Athletic    
       QPR                1  -  2    Wimbledon          
       Southampton        4  -  3    Ipswich Town       

	Sun
       Man Utd.           1  -  1    Aston Villa        


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 33   17   10    6   50   26   61   24 
   2 Aston Villa              33   17   10    6   49   32   61   17 
   3 Norwich City             33   17    8    8   46   46   59    0 
   4 Sheffield Wed.           31   13   10    8   41   34   49    7 
   5 QPR                      33   13    8   12   45   40   47    5 
   6 Blackburn Rovers         31   12   10    9   43   32   46   11 
   7 Man City                 32   13    7   12   44   35   46    9 
   8 Coventry City            34   12   10   12   45   44   46    1 
   9 Southampton              34   12   10   12   44   43   46    1 
  10 Tottenham Hotspur        32   12    9   11   39   47   45   -8 
  11 Ipswich Town             33   10   14    9   40   39   44    1 
  12 Arsenal                  31   12    7   12   29   27   43    2 
  13 Chelsea                  32   11   10   11   35   39   43   -4 
  14 Liverpool                32   11    9   12   43   43   42    0 
  15 Wimbledon                33   11    9   13   40   40   42    0 
  16 Leeds Utd.               32   11    9   12   42   45   42   -3 
  17 Everton                  34   12    6   16   40   44   42   -4 
  18 Crystal Palace           31    8   11   12   37   47   35  -10 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           32    9    7   16   37   42   34   -5 
  20 Middlesbrough            33    8    9   16   39   56   33  -17 
  21 Nottingham For           31    8    8   15   30   42   32  -12 
  22 Oldham Athletic          32    8    7   17   41   56   31  -15 
13.341For Mssrs Button & Co.FORTY2::ROBERTSONBlah! Blah! Yackety SchmacketyThu Mar 18 1993 12:2542
       Crystal Palace     1  -  1    Chelsea

       Nottingham For     0  -  3    Norwich City       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Norwich City             34   18    8    8   49   46   62    3 
   2 Man Utd.                 33   17   10    6   50   26   61   24 
   3 Aston Villa              33   17   10    6   49   32   61   17 
   4 Sheffield Wed.           31   13   10    8   41   34   49    7 
   5 QPR                      33   13    8   12   45   40   47    5 
   6 Blackburn Rovers         31   12   10    9   43   32   46   11 
   7 Man City                 32   13    7   12   44   35   46    9 
   8 Coventry City            34   12   10   12   45   44   46    1 
   9 Southampton              34   12   10   12   44   43   46    1 
  10 Tottenham Hotspur        32   12    9   11   39   47   45   -8 
  11 Ipswich Town             33   10   14    9   40   39   44    1 
  12 Chelsea                  33   11   11   11   36   40   44   -4 
  13 Arsenal                  31   12    7   12   29   27   43    2 
  14 Liverpool                32   11    9   12   43   43   42    0 
  15 Wimbledon                33   11    9   13   40   40   42    0 
  16 Leeds Utd.               32   11    9   12   42   45   42   -3 
  17 Everton                  34   12    6   16   40   44   42   -4 
  18 Crystal Palace           32    8   12   12   38   48   36  -10 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           32    9    7   16   37   42   34   -5 
  20 Middlesbrough            33    8    9   16   39   56   33  -17 
  21 Nottingham For           32    8    8   16   30   45   32  -15 
  22 Oldham Athletic          32    8    7   17   41   56   31  -15 

Who said it's a two horse race.

Norwich looked well out of it 10 days ago, but have shown championship form to
get right back into the race. I know they've played 3 of the 4 bottom teams in
the last 3 games, but they're the games you need to win if your're going to get
anywhere. Just ask any Man Utd fan about WHU last year and Oldham last week.

The visit of Villa & Man Utd in the next 3 weeks will be crucial.

I'm looking forward to an exciting last 2 months

Al
13.342ResultsFORTY2::ROBERTSONBlah! Blah! Yackety SchmacketyMon Mar 22 1993 18:0042
From Memory

       Arsenal            4  -  3    Southampton        
       Aston Villa        2  -  0    Sheffield Wed.     
       Blackburn Rovers   1  -  1    Middlesbrough      
       Chelsea            1  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Ipswich Town       0  -  0    Coventry City      
       Liverpool          1  -  0    Everton            
       Man City           1  -  1    Man Utd.           
       Oldham Athletic    2  -  2    QPR                
       Sheffield Utd.     0  -  1    Crystal Palace     
       Wimbledon          3  -  0    Norwich City       

	Sun

       Nottingham For     1  -  1    Leeds Utd.         


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Aston Villa              34   18   10    6   51   32   64   19 
   2 Man Utd.                 34   17   11    6   51   27   62   24 
   3 Norwich City             35   18    8    9   49   49   62    0 
   4 Sheffield Wed.           32   13   10    9   41   36   49    5 
   5 QPR                      34   13    9   12   47   42   48    5 
   6 Blackburn Rovers         32   12   11    9   44   33   47   11 
   7 Man City                 33   13    8   12   45   36   47    9 
   8 Coventry City            35   12   11   12   45   44   47    1 
   9 Arsenal                  32   13    7   12   33   30   46    3 
  10 Southampton              35   12   10   13   47   47   46    0 
  11 Tottenham Hotspur        33   12   10   11   40   48   46   -8 
  12 Wimbledon                34   12    9   13   43   40   45    3 
  13 Liverpool                33   12    9   12   44   43   45    1 
  14 Ipswich Town             34   10   15    9   40   39   45    1 
  15 Chelsea                  34   11   12   11   37   41   45   -4 
  16 Leeds Utd.               33   11   10   12   43   46   43   -3 
  17 Everton                  35   12    6   17   40   45   42   -5 
  18 Crystal Palace           33    9   12   12   39   48   39   -9 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           33    9    7   17   37   43   34   -6 
  20 Middlesbrough            34    8   10   16   40   57   34  -17 
  21 Nottingham For           33    8    9   16   31   46   33  -15 
  22 Oldham Athletic          33    8    8   17   43   58   32  -15 
13.343ECCGY4::HAIGHA1v30CM wubble wubble!Thu Mar 25 1993 11:335
    
    	Could someone put ALL the results in from last night?
    
    	I already know that Forest beat Soton 2-1 and Everton beat Ipswich
    3-0.....
13.344XSTACY::MDUNPHYJust another Day!!Thu Mar 25 1993 12:0110
Man Utd 	0 	Arsenal 0
Leeds		1	Chelsea 1
QPR		0	Blackburn 3
Coventry 	1	sheffield Utd 3
Sheffield Wed	1	Wimbledon 1
Norwich		1	Aston Villa 0
Spurs		3	Man City 1
Palace		1	Liverpool 1
Everton 	3	Ipswich 0
Southampton	1	Forest 2
13.345That's my job ;-)FORTY2::ROBERTSONBlah! Blah! Yackety SchmacketyThu Mar 25 1993 12:4932
	Mon

       Middlesbrough      2  -  3    Oldham Athletic    

	Tues
       Crystal Palace     1  -  1    Liverpool          


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Norwich City             36   19    8    9   50   49   65    1 
   2 Aston Villa              35   18   10    7   51   33   64   18 
   3 Man Utd.                 35   17   12    6   51   27   63   24 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         33   13   11    9   47   33   50   14 
   5 Sheffield Wed.           33   13   11    9   42   37   50    5 
   6 Tottenham Hotspur        34   13   10   11   43   49   49   -6 
   7 QPR                      35   13    9   13   47   45   48    2 
   8 Man City                 34   13    8   13   46   39   47    7 
   9 Arsenal                  33   13    8   12   33   30   47    3 
  10 Coventry City            36   12   11   13   46   47   47   -1 
  11 Wimbledon                35   12   10   13   44   41   46    3 
  12 Liverpool                34   12   10   12   45   44   46    1 
  13 Southampton              36   12   10   14   48   49   46   -1 
  14 Chelsea                  35   11   13   11   38   42   46   -4 
  15 Everton                  36   13    6   17   43   45   45   -2 
  16 Ipswich Town             35   10   15   10   40   42   45   -2 
  17 Leeds Utd.               34   11   11   12   44   47   44   -3 
  18 Crystal Palace           34    9   13   12   40   49   40   -9 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           34   10    7   17   40   44   37   -4 
  20 Nottingham For           34    9    9   16   33   47   36  -14 
  21 Oldham Athletic          34    9    8   17   46   60   35  -14 
  22 Middlesbrough            35    8   10   17   42   60   34  -18 
13.346ARNIES::SMITHP1mumble mumble orangeThu Mar 25 1993 14:186

	It's amazing to think that only 6 points separate 4th position 
	from 17th. 

		p1
13.347Results & tableFORTY2::ROBERTSONMon Apr 05 1993 21:4537
	Sat

       Blackburn Rovers   4  -  1    Liverpool          
       Chelsea            4  -  0    Middlesbrough      
       Coventry City      2  -  0    Southampton        
       Crystal Palace     1  -  1    QPR                
       Man City           3  -  1    Ipswich Town       
       Oldham Athletic    6  -  2    Wimbledon          

	Sun
       Nottingham For     0  -  1    Aston Villa        


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Aston Villa              36   19   10    7   52   33   67   19 
   2 Norwich City             36   19    8    9   50   49   65    1 
   3 Man Utd.                 35   17   12    6   51   27   63   24 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         34   14   11    9   51   34   53   17 
   5 Man City                 35   14    8   13   49   40   50    9 
   6 Sheffield Wed.           33   13   11    9   42   37   50    5 
   7 Coventry City            37   13   11   13   48   47   50    1 
   8 QPR                      36   13   10   13   48   46   49    2 
   9 Chelsea                  36   12   13   11   42   42   49    0 
  10 Tottenham Hotspur        34   13   10   11   43   49   49   -6 
  11 Arsenal                  33   13    8   12   33   30   47    3 
  12 Wimbledon                36   12   10   14   46   47   46   -1 
  13 Liverpool                35   12   10   13   46   48   46   -2 
  14 Southampton              37   12   10   15   48   51   46   -3 
  15 Everton                  36   13    6   17   43   45   45   -2 
  16 Ipswich Town             36   10   15   11   41   45   45   -4 
  17 Leeds Utd.               34   11   11   12   44   47   44   -3 
  18 Crystal Palace           35    9   14   12   41   50   41   -9 
  19 Oldham Athletic          35   10    8   17   52   62   38  -10 
  20 Sheffield Utd.           34   10    7   17   40   44   37   -4 
  21 Nottingham For           35    9    9   17   33   48   36  -15 
  22 Middlesbrough            36    8   10   18   42   64   34  -22 
13.348United go 2ndFORTY2::ROBERTSONTue Apr 06 1993 14:3714
       Norwich City       1  -  3    Man Utd.           


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Aston Villa              36   19   10    7   52   33   67   19 
   2 Man Utd.                 36   18   12    6   54   28   66   26 
   3 Norwich City             37   19    8   10   51   52   65   -1 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         34   14   11    9   51   34   53   17 
   5 Man City                 35   14    8   13   49   40   50    9 
   6 Sheffield Wed.           33   13   11    9   42   37   50    5 
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13.349Results over the last week....FORTY2::ROBERTSONTue Apr 13 1993 14:4567
	Tues 6th

       Ipswich Town       1  -  1    Chelsea            
       Middlesbrough      1  -  0    Arsenal            
       Sheffield Utd.     2  -  1    Leeds Utd.         

	Wed 7th

       Nottingham For     1  -  3    Blackburn Rovers   
       Oldham Athletic    1  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     

	Fri 9th

       Sheffield Utd.     1  -  1    Man City           
       Tottenham Hotspur  5  -  1    Norwich City       
       Wimbledon          4  -  0    Crystal Palace     

	Sat 10th

       Aston Villa        0  -  0    Coventry City      
       Ipswich Town       1  -  2    Arsenal            
       Leeds Utd.         5  -  2    Blackburn Rovers   
       Liverpool          1  -  0    Oldham Athletic    
       Man Utd.           2  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Middlesbrough      1  -  2    Everton            
       QPR                4  -  3    Nottingham For     
       Southampton        1  -  0    Chelsea

	Mon 12th
            
       Arsenal            0  -  1    Aston Villa        
       Chelsea            4  -  2    Wimbledon          
       Coventry City      0  -  1    Man Utd.           
       Crystal Palace     4  -  1    Middlesbrough      
       Everton            3  -  5    QPR                
       Man City           1  -  1    Liverpool          
       Nottingham For     2  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Sheffield Wed.     5  -  2    Southampton        
       Blackburn Rovers   2  -  1    Ipswich Town       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 38   20   12    6   57   29   72   28 
   2 Aston Villa              38   20   11    7   53   33   71   20 
   3 Norwich City             38   19    8   11   52   57   65   -5 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         37   16   11   10   58   41   59   17 
   5 QPR                      38   15   10   13   57   52   55    5 
   6 Sheffield Wed.           36   14   12   10   49   42   54    7 
   7 Chelsea                  39   13   14   12   47   46   53    1 
   8 Man City                 37   14   10   13   51   42   52    9 
   9 Tottenham Hotspur        36   14   10   12   49   52   52   -3 
  10 Coventry City            39   13   12   14   48   48   51    0 
  11 Arsenal                  36   14    8   14   35   33   50    2 
  12 Liverpool                37   13   11   13   48   49   50   -1 
  13 Wimbledon                38   13   10   15   52   51   49    1 
  14 Southampton              39   13   10   16   51   56   49   -5 
  15 Everton                  38   14    6   18   48   51   48   -3 
  16 Leeds Utd.               36   12   11   13   50   51   47   -1 
  17 Ipswich Town             39   10   16   13   44   50   46   -6 
  18 Crystal Palace           37   10   14   13   45   55   44  -10 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           36   11    8   17   43   46   41   -3 
  20 Oldham Athletic          37   10    9   18   53   64   39  -11 
  21 Nottingham For           38   10    9   19   39   56   39  -17 
  22 Middlesbrough            39    9   10   20   45   70   37  -25 

Al
13.350No change at top or bottomFORTY2::ROBERTSONMon Apr 19 1993 17:0641
	Sat
       Leeds Utd.         0  -  0    Crystal Palace     
       Liverpool          4  -  0    Coventry City      
       Man Utd.           3  -  0    Chelsea            
       Sheffield Utd.     1  -  3    Blackburn Rovers   
       Southampton        0  -  0    Everton            
       Tottenham Hotspur  4  -  1    Oldham Athletic    
       Wimbledon          1  -  0    Nottingham For     

	Sun
       Aston Villa        3  -  1    Man City           


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 39   21   12    6   60   29   75   31 
   2 Aston Villa              39   21   11    7   56   34   74   22 
   3 Norwich City             39   20    8   11   56   59   68   -3 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         38   17   11   10   61   42   62   19 
   5 QPR                      38   15   10   13   57   52   55    5 
   6 Tottenham Hotspur        37   15   10   12   53   53   55    0 
   7 Sheffield Wed.           36   14   12   10   49   42   54    7 
   8 Liverpool                38   14   11   13   52   49   53    3 
   9 Chelsea                  40   13   14   13   47   49   53   -2 
  10 Man City                 38   14   10   14   52   45   52    7 
  11 Wimbledon                39   14   10   15   53   51   52    2 
  12 Coventry City            40   13   12   15   48   52   51   -4 
  13 Arsenal                  36   14    8   14   35   33   50    2 
  14 Southampton              40   13   11   16   51   56   50   -5 
  15 Everton                  39   14    7   18   48   51   49   -3 
  16 Leeds Utd.               38   12   12   14   52   55   48   -3 
  17 Ipswich Town             39   10   16   13   44   50   46   -6 
  18 Crystal Palace           38   10   15   13   45   55   45  -10 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           38   11    9   18   45   50   42   -5 
  20 Oldham Athletic          39   10   10   19   55   69   40  -14 
  21 Nottingham For           39   10    9   20   39   57   39  -18 
  22 Middlesbrough            39    9   10   20   45   70   37  -25 

Tonight

	Ipswich	v	Norwich
13.351It's a 2 horse race nowFORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTATue Apr 20 1993 15:5741
       Ipswich Town       3  -  1    Norwich City       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 39   21   12    6   60   29   75   31 
   2 Aston Villa              39   21   11    7   56   34   74   22 

   3 Norwich City             40   20    8   12   57   62   68   -5 *
   4 Blackburn Rovers         38   17   11   10   61   42   62   19 *

   5 QPR                      38   15   10   13   57   52   55    5 
   6 Tottenham Hotspur        37   15   10   12   53   53   55    0 *
   7 Sheffield Wed.           36   14   12   10   49   42   54    7 *
   8 Liverpool                38   14   11   13   52   49   53    3 
   9 Chelsea                  40   13   14   13   47   49   53   -2 
  10 Man City                 38   14   10   14   52   45   52    7 
  11 Wimbledon                39   14   10   15   53   51   52    2 
  12 Coventry City            40   13   12   15   48   52   51   -4 
  13 Arsenal                  36   14    8   14   35   33   50    2 #
  14 Southampton              40   13   11   16   51   56   50   -5 

  15 Everton                  39   14    7   18   48   51   49   -3 **
  16 Ipswich Town             40   11   16   13   47   51   49   -4 **
  17 Leeds Utd.               38   12   12   14   52   55   48   -3 **
  18 Crystal Palace           38   10   15   13   45   55   45  -10 **
  19 Sheffield Utd.           38   11    9   18   45   50   42   -5 **

  20 Oldham Athletic          39   10   10   19   55   69   40  -14 
  21 Nottingham For           39   10    9   20   39   57   39  -18 
  22 Middlesbrough            39    9   10   20   45   70   37  -25 

Norwich's faint hopes of the title have now dissappeared. It is now 
mathematically impossible to win, and If Villa get 1 more point they can kiss the
runners up spot good-bye too. They could even lose 3rd place as Blackburn are 6
points behind with 2 games in hand.

* 	Possibility of a UEFA place If Arsenal win F.A. Cup Final
**	50 points required for absolute safety
#	Already in UEFA, but can still mathematically come 3rd until Norwich
	get another point.
13.352Tues & Wed ResultsFORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAThu Apr 22 1993 16:5145
	Tues
       Middlesbrough      3  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur  

	Wed
       Arsenal            1  -  1    Nottingham For     
       Blackburn Rovers   3  -  0    Aston Villa        
       Crystal Palace     0  -  2    Man Utd.           
       Liverpool          2  -  0    Leeds Utd.         
       Man City           1  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  1    Sheffield Utd.     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 40   22   12    6   62   29   78   33 
   2 Aston Villa              40   21   11    8   56   37   74   19
 
   3 Norwich City             40   20    8   12   57   62   68   -5	* 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         39   18   11   10   64   42   65   22 	*
   5 Liverpool                39   15   11   13   54   49   56    5 
   6 Sheffield Wed.           37   14   13   10   50   43   55    7 	*
   7 QPR                      38   15   10   13   57   52   55    5 
   8 Tottenham Hotspur        38   15   10   13   53   56   55   -3 
   9 Man City                 39   14   11   14   53   46   53    7 
  10 Wimbledon                40   14   11   15   54   52   53    2 
  11 Chelsea                  40   13   14   13   47   49   53   -2 
  12 Arsenal                  37   14    9   14   36   34   51    2	# 
  13 Coventry City            40   13   12   15   48   52   51   -4 
  14 Southampton              40   13   11   16   51   56   50   -5 

  15 Everton                  39   14    7   18   48   51   49   -3	**
  16 Ipswich Town             40   11   16   13   47   51   49   -4 	**
  17 Leeds Utd.               39   12   12   15   52   57   48   -5 	**
  18 Crystal Palace           39   10   15   14   45   57   45  -12 	**
  19 Sheffield Utd.           39   11   10   18   46   51   43   -5 	**

  20 Oldham Athletic          39   10   10   19   55   69   40  -14 
  21 Nottingham For           40   10   10   20   40   58   40  -18 
  22 Middlesbrough            40   10   10   20   48   70   40  -22 

* 	Possibility of a UEFA place If Arsenal win F.A. Cup Final
**	50 points required for absolute safety
#	Already in UEFA Cup.

That's it until May 1st
13.353Weekend results, please!MOEUR1::SMITHMon Apr 26 1993 13:482
    
    Is the UK on holiday today?  Was any football played at the weekend?
13.354England 1 Holland 3UTROP1::JANSENReading Blondes have more funMon Apr 26 1993 14:1010
                      <<< Note 13.353 by MOEUR1::SMITH >>>
                         -< Weekend results, please! >-

    
>>    Is the UK on holiday today?  Was any football played at the weekend?

No Premier League this weekend 'cause England are playing Holland on
Wednesday.

T_
13.355Me? Out of touch? Obviously!MOEUR1::SMITHMon Apr 26 1993 14:226
    
    Does that mean there is no footie tonight, live on Sky?
    
    Therefore, do Man. Utd play Blackburn this time next week?
    
    Ian
13.356No play in the lower divisions either?MOEUR1::SMITHMon Apr 26 1993 14:272
    
    West Ham in particular?
13.357Both on SkyWARNUT::WARNUT::PICKERINGSSimon PickeringMon Apr 26 1993 15:013
    re .355
    Villa vs Oldham 4.00pm Sunday
    United vs Blackburn 7:45pm Monday
13.358FORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAMon Apr 26 1993 15:2911
All other divisions had a full schedule:

Some Up's and downs so far

D1	Bristol Rovers down after losing 2-1 at WHU

D2	Chester City down ( for the last few weeks )

D3	Barnet & Cardiff Promoted

Vauxhall Conf	Wycombe Wanderers - Champions
13.359Top Div 1XSTACY::KMCGRATHLong road, patient donkeyMon Apr 26 1993 18:1613
West Ham won 2-1 vs Bristol Rvrs on Saturday, but Portsmouth and Newcastle also 
had victories, so the top of the table looks like this :

		Pld  F  A  Pts
Newcastle	43   81 36 87
Portsmouth	44   77 41 85
-----------------------------
West Ham	44   76 40 82
Swindon		44   73 55 76
Leicester	44   70 57 75
Tranmere	43   67 53 72
-----------------------------
Millwall	44   64 47 70
13.360Update pleaseISEPUB::CHAMPOLLIONCan-tas-ticTue May 04 1993 14:295
Could somebody post the updated table?

Many thanks -

JF
13.361As requested - This weekends results & tableFORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTATue May 04 1993 15:3450
	Sat
       Chelsea            2  -  1    Coventry City      
       Crystal Palace     3  -  1    Ipswich Town       
       Everton            0  -  0    Arsenal            
       Leeds Utd.         1  -  1    QPR                
       Norwich City       1  -  0    Liverpool          
       Nottingham For     0  -  2    Sheffield Utd.     
       Sheffield Wed.     2  -  3    Middlesbrough      
       Southampton        0  -  1    Man City           
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  1    Wimbledon 
	Sun         
       Aston Villa        0  -  1    Oldham Athletic 
	Mon   
       Man Utd.           3  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 41   23   12    6   65   30   81   35	***CHAMPIONS*** 
   2 Aston Villa              41   21   11    9   56   38   74   18 	Runners Up

   3 Norwich City             41   21    8   12   58   62   71   -4	* 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         40   18   11   11   65   45   65   20 	*
   5 Man City                 40   15   11   14   54   46   56    8 
   6 QPR                      39   15   11   13   58   53   56    5 
   7 Liverpool                40   15   11   14   54   50   56    4 
   8 Chelsea                  41   14   14   13   49   50   56   -1 
   9 Tottenham Hotspur        39   15   11   13   54   57   56   -3 
  10 Sheffield Wed.           38   14   13   11   52   46   55    6 
  11 Wimbledon                41   14   12   15   55   53   54    2 
  12 Arsenal                  38   14   10   14   36   34   52    2 	#
  13 Coventry City            41   13   12   16   49   54   51   -5 
  14 Everton                  40   14    8   18   48   51   50   -3 
  15 Southampton              41   13   11   17   51   57   50   -6 
  16 Leeds Utd.               40   12   13   15   53   58   49   -5 	**
  17 Ipswich Town             41   11   16   14   48   54   49   -6	** 
  18 Crystal Palace           40   11   15   14   48   58   48  -10	** 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           40   12   10   18   48   51   46   -3	** 
  20 Oldham Athletic          40   11   10   19   56   69   43  -13	**
  21 Middlesbrough            41   11   10   20   51   72   43  -21	** 
  22 Nottingham For           41   10   10   21   40   60   40  -20 	Relegated


	*	Can Get UEFA spot if Arsenal Win F.A. Cup

	#	UEFA Cup Place Guaranteed

	**	Any team can go down still mathematically, but probably 2 of the bottom 4

Al
13.362Middlesbrough bite the dustFORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAWed May 05 1993 15:4442
Results from last night:

       Arsenal            0  -  0    QPR                
       Everton            0  -  2    Sheffield Utd.     
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  1    Leeds Utd.         


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 41   23   12    6   65   30   81   35 	***CHAMPIONS***
   2 Aston Villa              41   21   11    9   56   38   74   18 	Runners up

   3 Norwich City             41   21    8   12   58   62   71   -4 	*
   4 Blackburn Rovers         40   18   11   11   65   45   65   20 	*
   5 QPR                      40   15   12   13   58   53   57    5 
   6 Man City                 40   15   11   14   54   46   56    8 
   7 Sheffield Wed.           39   14   14   11   53   47   56    6 
   8 Liverpool                40   15   11   14   54   50   56    4 
   9 Chelsea                  41   14   14   13   49   50   56   -1 
  10 Tottenham Hotspur        39   15   11   13   54   57   56   -3 
  11 Wimbledon                41   14   12   15   55   53   54    2 
  12 Arsenal                  39   14   11   14   36   34   53    2 	#
  13 Coventry City            41   13   12   16   49   54   51   -5 
  14 Leeds Utd.               41   12   14   15   54   59   50   -5 
  15 Everton                  41   14    8   19   48   53   50   -5 
  16 Southampton              41   13   11   17   51   57   50   -6 

  17 Sheffield Utd.           41   13   10   18   50   51   49   -1 	**
  18 Ipswich Town             41   11   16   14   48   54   49   -6 	**
  19 Crystal Palace           40   11   15   14   48   58   48  -10 	**

  20 Oldham Athletic          40   11   10   19   56   69   43  -13 	***
  21 Middlesbrough            41   11   10   20   51   72   43  -21 	Relegated
  22 Nottingham For           41   10   10   21   40   60   40  -20 	Relegated

	*	Can Get UEFA spot if Arsenal Win F.A. Cup

	#	UEFA Cup Place Guaranteed

	**	Any team can go down still mathematically, but Oldham are favourites

Al
13.363Ups & Downs so farFORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAWed May 05 1993 15:5640
Up's and downs so far

PREM	Champions	Manchester United
	Runners Up	Aston Villa

	Relegated	Middlesrough
			Nottingham Forest

D1	Champions	Newcastle United

	Runners Up & Playoff places
			West Ham United
			Portsmouth
			Swindon Town
			Tranmere Rovers
			Leicester City

	Relegated	Bristol Rovers

D2	Champions	Stoke City

	Runners Up & Playoff places
			Port Vale
			Bolton Wanderers
			WBA
			Swansea City
			Stockport County/Leyton Orient

	Relegated	Chester City
			Mansfield Town
			Wigan Athletic

D3	Promoted	Barnet
			Cardiff
			Wrexham

	Not sure about play off places


GMVC	Champions	Wycombe Wanderers
13.364XSTACY::KMCGRATHLong road, patient donkeyWed May 05 1993 19:311
Anyone got the table for the bottom of Division 1??
13.365PEKING::SERJEANTSDon't end up a Victim of LoveWed May 05 1993 19:4214
        
               P  W  D  L  GF GA PTS
    Luton      45 10 21 14 47 60 51
    Sunderland 45 13 11 21 49 61 50
    Southend   45 12 13 20 52 63 49
    Notts Co   44 11 16 17 52 67 49
    Brentford  45 13 10 22 51 67 49
    -------------------------------
    Cambridge  45 11 16 18 48 67 49
    Birmingham 45 12 12 21 49 72 48
    Bristol R  45  9 11 25 52 87 38
    
    
    						Steve..
13.366ECCGY4::HAIGHOnly 6 days to Run RigThu May 06 1993 12:286
    
    	Could someone put the results of last nights game in? Premier, 1st
    and 2nd if possible? How do they affect relegation and promotion?
    
    
    		Steve
13.367Too Close To CallPANIC::ANDERSONThe original MagpiesThu May 06 1993 12:3620
    Premier
    
    Man City 0 Palace 0
    Oldham 3   Liverpool 2
    Tottenham 1 Blackburn 2
    
    Oldham now three points behind Palace with one to play - The FE's at
    Highbury (where they have never got a point ?), The Latics home to 
    Southampton.
    
    Div 1
    
    Derby 2 Notts County 0
    
    Notts still in danger of relegation for the second season running. Any
    two of seven clubs will join Bristol Rovers; favourites are Cambridge
    (at West Ham on Saturday), and Brentford (at Bristol City) or Notts or 
    Sunderland (playing each other)
    
    Rob
13.368Updated Prem table FYIFORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAThu May 06 1993 15:4224
        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 41   23   12    6   65   30   81   35 
   2 Aston Villa              41   21   11    9   56   38   74   18 
   3 Norwich City             41   21    8   12   58   62   71   -4 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         41   19   11   11   67   46   68   21 
   5 Man City                 41   15   12   14   54   46   57    8 
   6 QPR                      40   15   12   13   58   53   57    5 
   7 Sheffield Wed.           39   14   14   11   53   47   56    6 
   8 Liverpool                41   15   11   15   56   53   56    3 
   9 Chelsea                  41   14   14   13   49   50   56   -1 
  10 Tottenham Hotspur        40   15   11   14   55   59   56   -4 
  11 Wimbledon                41   14   12   15   55   53   54    2 
  12 Arsenal                  39   14   11   14   36   34   53    2 
  13 Coventry City            41   13   12   16   49   54   51   -5 
  14 Leeds Utd.               41   12   14   15   54   59   50   -5 
  15 Everton                  41   14    8   19   48   53   50   -5 
  16 Southampton              41   13   11   17   51   57   50   -6 
  17 Sheffield Utd.           41   13   10   18   50   51   49   -1 
  18 Ipswich Town             41   11   16   14   48   54   49   -6 
  19 Crystal Palace           41   11   16   14   48   58   49  -10 
  20 Oldham Athletic          41   12   10   19   59   71   46  -12 
  21 Middlesbrough            41   11   10   20   51   72   43  -21 
  22 Nottingham For           41   10   10   21   40   60   40  -20 
13.369Confirmation required please...MOEUR1::SMITHThu May 06 1993 16:5713
    
    Can someone please answer a debate between two people (English)
    currently residing in France.  We've seen a lot of comments about goals
    scored, goal difference over this week, and would like to be certain
    how relegation places are determined if two or more teams finish on the
    same number of points, please?
    
    For example, take the bottom of the premier division, if Oldham win,
    and Sheff. Utd, Ipswich and Palace lose, (I don't know who plays who
    either!), how will the place be decided?
    
    Cheers,
    Ian
13.370ECCGY4::HAIGHOnly 6 days to Run RigThu May 06 1993 17:039
    
    	Goal difference first then goals scored. So if Oldham win even if
    only by 1 goal and Palace lose also by one goal, Oldham will finish
    above Palace, because they have scored more goals.
    
    	I hope Oldham make it, not because I don't like Palace, I just
    think Oldham are far more entertaining.
    
    			Steve
13.371SUBURB::COMMITCommit GroupThu May 06 1993 17:097
    Re 370
    
        >>>I hope Oldham make it, not because I don:t like Palace,
           I just think Oldham are far more entertaining.
    
    
        Well lets be honest, who isn't more entertaining than Palace.
13.372But am I joking?SUBURB::PRATTJYou're joking - Jason what?Thu May 06 1993 17:115
    
    
    West Brom???
    
    ;-)
13.373FORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAThu May 06 1993 17:395
What .370 said is correct for the Premier League, however
the rest of the football league have adopted a new system this
year where the goals scored comes before Goal difference.

Al
13.374PLUNDR::MORANTripple ripple truffle shufflerThu May 06 1993 17:457
>    What .370 said is correct for the Premier League, however
>    the rest of the football league have adopted a new system this
>    year where the goals scored comes before Goal difference.
    
    Superfluous "rest of", sorry to be pedantic.
    
    Tim ;-)
13.375ECCGY4::HAIGHOnly 6 days to Run RigThu May 06 1993 18:024
    
    Re .373
    
    	Is that right? The thing's you didn't you, you didn't know.
13.376How many times have you seen Palace play?YUPPY::PATEMANScuba Dive in my Think TankThu May 06 1993 18:0522
    Re -2 or 3
    
    Thank you for your wonderfully charitable support - what have Palace
    ever done to you? Palace started this season playing very bright
    inventive football (even the Guardian admitted it) then lost Salako for
    A SECOND TIME and had a horrendous run of injuries leading to no
    consistency at all, plus we could not afford the sort of prices being
    asked for quality strikers to replace Bright and Wright. We struck
    incredibly lucky with Chris Armstrong - one of the brightest prospects
    in the League.
    
    Unlike the "big" teams, we grow our own team, we have to. They either
    come from the youth team or from low cost investments such as Thomas
    for #50k, Wright for virtually nothing etc.
    
    You may not want us to stay up - so when your team whoever they may be
    get in the same situation - I hope we we will be able to send them
    down.
    
    yours graciously
    
    Paul
13.377Oldham AND Palace survive...Wimbledon docked 10 ptsTRUCKS::SANTThis is as good as it gets!Thu May 06 1993 18:2912
    
    	So tell us, Paul...what's it like having "everyone" wishing ill
    	of YOUR team for a change ;-)
    
    	I've had to read no end of "uncharitable" comments about United
    	for god-knows-how-long....
    
    	One thing's for sure. The "Premier" League will be short of a
    	couple of attractive sides next year (Forest, Palace/Oldham), 
    	with some of the more undesirables escaping relegation again. 
    
    	Andy.
13.378SUBURB::COMMITCommit GroupThu May 06 1993 18:3619
    Re 377
    
    What another boring note.
    
    "We're so humble, we supoort Man Utd and no one likes us".  After reading
    note 32, I'm not surprised. 
    
    Why must you lot always rag on Wimbledon?  Why don't you leave them
    alone?  
    
    I for one think it would be great to see Palace go down so that we
    never have to listen to another Steve Coppell interview on Match of the
    Day.
    
    As for having the chance of sending us down....  I don't think so.
    
    
    Barry
         
13.379TRUCKS::SANTThis is as good as it gets!Thu May 06 1993 18:394
    
    	Yeah, right Barry...
    
    	Sorry it was so boring. I'll try harder next time 8-(
13.380SUBURB::COMMITCommit GroupThu May 06 1993 18:425
    Is it possible to get more exciting?  I look forward to reading your
    next response with interest.
    
    
    Barry
13.381Wombles in Selhurst Cash Injection - NOTYUPPY::PATEMANScuba Dive in my Think TankThu May 06 1993 18:4918
    Barry - you neglect to say who "us" are.
    
    Most dire teams seen at Selhurst this season -
    
    Coventry
    Southampton
    Everton
    Man City
    
    and anyone who reckons we play long ball - look at Man City - hump it
    Quinn and hope.
    
    By the way - Utd played reasonably at Selhurst, not as well as I've
    seen them on the box and they deserve the title. (God that hurt!)
    Anything to see Liverpool not win - the dirtiest side to visit us this
    year by far. What does Burrows think ihe is upto?
    
    Paul
13.382West Ham to ReturnCURRNT::SHAWThu May 06 1993 18:514
Lets not forget Andy that one of the most attractive sides in the land will
be returning to the Premier League next year - West Ham.

Ray
13.383SUBURB::COMMITCommit GroupThu May 06 1993 19:1922
    Mr Pateman us are West Bromwich Albion.  We are not boring.  With Ossie
    Ardilies as manager and Keith Burkenshaw as no.2 we are on the up. 
    There first season in charge has seen us play some...how can I put
    this...  class football.  Gone are the big hoof days of Bobby Gould.
    
    This season has been pretty amazing considering last season, we were
    playing the long ball game.  
    
    If Palace are lucky and they sack Coppell they might even see such a
    transformation at Selhurst.
    
    At the moment though, Wimbledon are the only footballing side in South
    London.  
    
    Re .383
    
    Well if West Ham go the same way they usually go then they'll be going
    down the following season.  So it could be a laugh seeing them go up.
    
    
    Barry
                                                                         
13.384ECCGY4::HAIGHEpithets for my epitaphThu May 06 1993 19:188
    
    
    	Seemed to have touched a Palace nerve, sorry I spoke. City don't
    play the long ball game, Quinn is a strategic target man! ;-)
    
    	Seriously though, City have resorted to the long ball game a few
    times this year (only when Reid isn't playing though) and it disturbs me 
    a good deal. Hopefully we will get back to the 'old ways' next year.
13.385I smell a ratholeYUPPY::PATEMANScuba Dive in my Think TankThu May 06 1993 19:2611
    Re -2
    
    One trusts that references to Wimbledon and football are in jest. While
    they are not as bad as they are made out - Holdsworth & Earle are
    excellent players - they are not a good advert for the game with their
    general approach. We just wish they would move out.
    
    As for Coppell - he hardly ever speaks on TV, and has brought Palace
    unprecedented success. When were West Brom last at Wembley?
    
    Paul
13.386WIMBLEDON 4 CRYSTAL PALACE 0SUBURB::COMMITCommit GroupThu May 06 1993 19:5816
    Mr Pateman 
    
    When or have you won anything good at Wembley.  I don't mean the Mickey
    Mouse cups that we associate with Palace.  I'm talking FA Cups and
    League Cups.  Have you ever been in Europe? 
    
    Oh by the way, we have the chance of reaching Wembley in the Play-offs.  
    
    As for saying my references to Wimbledon are in jest, I'll let you know
    they are not.  They have no money, no fans, Vinny Jones and no
    footballers and yet all you can do is take the p%ss and laugh at them.\
    
    LEAVE WIMBLEDON ALONE!
    
     
    Barry
13.387YUPPY::PANESSeratonin junkieFri May 07 1993 12:5513
              <<< Note 13.386 by SUBURB::COMMIT "Commit Group" >>>
                    -< WIMBLEDON  4     CRYSTAL PALACE  0 >-

    
>    When or have you won anything good at Wembley.  I don't mean the Mickey
>    Mouse cups that we associate with Palace.  I'm talking FA Cups and
>    League Cups.  Have you ever been in Europe? 
 

      Palace were denied a place in Europe when Scousepool had their ban
      prematurely lifted.

      Stuart
13.388ARNIES::SMITHP1Throw another permie on the fireFri May 07 1993 14:586
	Well (Rod!) I hope Palace stay in the Premier, and I'm looking
	forward to next season, when I truly hope to see the likes of
	Liverpool and Manchester United deep in relegation misery.

		p1$provocative_noting_at_its_best
13.389What John Lennon meant to say but it was too provocativeSTKOFF::SPERSSONPas de problemeFri May 07 1993 16:292
    
    "But you're still Crystal Palace as far as I can see"
13.390Palace to survive but only justGALVIA::SPAINThere's always the U.S.Fri May 07 1993 16:415
    
    Considering Arsenal's recent form what odds another 0-0 draw on
    Saturday?
    
    Gary.
13.391nil desperendumYUPPY::PANESSeratonin junkieFri May 07 1993 17:0217
         <<< Note 13.390 by GALVIA::SPAIN "There's always the U.S." >>>
                      -< Palace to survive but only just >-

    
>    Considering Arsenal's recent form what odds another 0-0 draw on
>    Saturday?
    
>    Gary.



I reckon that they will put out their potential FA Cup team, and give us 
our normal Highbury humping.

Grimsby here we come.

Stuart
13.392The F.E.'s to survive (I hope)PANIC::ANDERSONThe original MagpiesFri May 07 1993 17:0510
    
    Gary,
    
    Surely, the truer guide to form should come from the Neville Ovenden
    Combination ;-)
    
    (What have been Palace's recent results at Highbury against Arsenal
    Reserves ?)
    
    Rob
13.393Sensitive? Moi?TRUCKS::SANTThis is as good as it gets!Fri May 07 1993 17:4628
    
    	I'm struggling here, guys.....why so much anymosity towards
    	Crystal Palace?
    
    	My earlier note, which incurred the wrath of one noter so I
    	didn't bother commenting further for fear of more personal
    	attacks, was meant seriously.
    
    	I think Palace should stay up. They have an exciting set of
    	youngsters who Coppell has been forced to "blood" in the premier
    	league. One or two of them look to be made of the right stuff.
    	Armstrong is a tremendous prospect, and there are others....
    
    	And to be fair, Coppell has had little choice but to try them,
    	due to injuries to a small squad. No Sounessesque whinging from
    	Selhurst Park, though...
    
    	Coppell is a good coach. He deserves a break. It's sad that
    	Oldham are to suffer at their expense, as surely Palace will get 
    	at least the draw they need at Highbury.
    
    	I'd prefer to see a couple of the sides that kick lumps out of the
    	opposition week-in week-out, and are rewarded with league fines
    	and disrepute charges for their "players" on a regular basis,
    	get relegated. You can determine for yourself who they might be.
    
    	Andy.
    
13.394SUBURB::COMMITCommit GroupFri May 07 1993 17:5611
    Re 393
    
    A bit better but its a bit harsh saying Liverpool should be relegated
    for kicking lumps out of other teams.  No doubt your also refering to
    Wimbledon...
    
    Well thats to be expected from most noters I suppose. 
    
    
    Barry
    
13.395PEKING::DAVIESGIN YOUR FACE!Fri May 07 1993 19:536
    
    Arsenal will probably play about 1 or 2 of their regular players
    because of the FAAAAA cup final. I reckon Palace will win 
    
    Cheerz
    
13.396Joe "Houdini" RoyleGALVIA::SPAINThere's always the U.S.Sun May 09 1993 21:226
    
    Arsenal came out with all guns blazing and beat Palace 3-0.  From MotD
    Palace appeared to be unlucky.  Oldham beat Soton 4-3 in a thriller to
    survive.
    
    Gary.
13.397ECCGY4::HAIGHEpithets for my epitaphMon May 10 1993 12:4515
    
    	As I brought up the subject; I personnally have nothing against
    Palace or Coppell (even if he did play for United), it is simply that I
    think Oldham deserve a place in the Premier league more than they do,
    and for that matter more than many teams do. 
    
    	I also think Oldham have had some bad luck this year. I saw them
    play City at Boundary park, City won, but Oldham should have had a
    penalty and to be fair were the better team.
    
    	Good luck to Palacae next year, and congratulations to Oldham.
    Winning 4-3 to stay up underlines what an entertaining team they are.
    
    
    		Steve
13.398Final Weekend resultsFORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAMon May 10 1993 13:5447
	Sat

       Arsenal            3  -  0    Crystal Palace     
       Blackburn Rovers   1  -  0    Sheffield Wed.     
       Coventry City      3  -  3    Leeds Utd.         
       Ipswich Town       2  -  1    Nottingham For     
       Liverpool          6  -  2    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Man City           2  -  5    Everton            
       Middlesbrough      3  -  3    Norwich City       
       Oldham Athletic    4  -  3    Southampton        
       Sheffield Utd.     4  -  2    Chelsea            

	Sun
       Wimbledon          1  -  2    Man Utd.           
       QPR                2  -  1    Aston Villa        


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 42   24   12    6   67   31   84   36 
   2 Aston Villa              42   21   11   10   57   40   74   17 
   3 Norwich City             42   21    9   12   61   65   72   -4 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         42   20   11   11   68   46   71   22 
   5 QPR                      41   16   12   13   60   54   60    6 
   6 Liverpool                42   16   11   15   62   55   59    7 
   7 Sheffield Wed.           41   15   14   12   54   48   59    6 
   8 Man City                 42   15   12   15   56   51   57    5 
   9 Arsenal                  41   15   11   15   39   35   56    4 
  10 Chelsea                  42   14   14   14   51   54   56   -3 
  11 Tottenham Hotspur        41   15   11   15   57   65   56   -8 
  12 Wimbledon                42   14   12   16   56   55   54    1 
  13 Everton                  42   15    8   19   53   55   53   -2 
  14 Sheffield Utd.           42   14   10   18   54   53   52    1 
  15 Coventry City            42   13   13   16   52   57   52   -5 
  16 Ipswich Town             42   12   16   14   50   55   52   -5 
  17 Leeds Utd.               42   12   15   15   57   62   51   -5 
  18 Southampton              42   13   11   18   54   61   50   -7 
  19 Oldham Athletic          42   13   10   19   63   74   49  -11 
  20 Crystal Palace           42   11   16   15   48   61   49  -13 
  21 Middlesbrough            42   11   11   20   54   75   44  -21 
  22 Nottingham For           42   10   10   22   41   62   40  -21 

Still to play:


	QPR	v	Sheffield Wed
	Arsenal	v	Tottenham
13.399Will it be Pompey or TGA in the premier?AIMTEC::WICKS_Aon the Streets of San FranciscoMon May 10 1993 20:406
    So what happened in the lower divisions - what is the schedule for
    the playoffs.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
13.400From memoryFORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAMon May 10 1993 20:5752
Up's and downs 92/93

PREM	Champions	Manchester United
	Runners Up	Aston Villa

	Relegated	Crystal Palace
			Middlesrough
			Nottingham Forest

D1	Champions	Newcastle United
	Runners Up	West Ham United

	Playoff places	Portsmouth
			Swindon Town
			Tranmere Rovers
			Leicester City

	Relegated	Brentford
			Cambridge Utd.
			Bristol Rovers

D2	Champions	Stoke City
	Runners Up	Bolton Wanderers


	Playoff places	Port Vale
			WBA
			Swansea City
			Stockport County

	Relegated	Preston NE
			Chester City
			Mansfield Town
			Wigan Athletic

D3	Promoted	Barnet
			Cardiff
			Wrexham

	Playoff places	York City
			Shrewsbury
			Crewe
			Bury

	Relegated	Halifax Town

GMVC	Champions	Wycombe Wanderers


I'm pretty sure about Div3 but I need to confirm

Al
13.401SUBURB::COMMITCommit GroupMon May 10 1993 20:598
    Re 400
    
    Walsall made the play-offs instead of Shrewsbury.
    
    
    
    
    Barry
13.402Try Again - D3FORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAMon May 10 1993 21:0910
D3	Champions	Cardiff
	Promoted	Barnet
			Wrexham

	Playoff places	York City
			Walsall
			Crewe
			Bury

	Relegated	Halifax Town
13.4031993/4 - Getting Smaller?YUPPY::PATEMANScuba Dive in my Think TankMon May 10 1993 21:144
    Anybody know what happens NEXT season? Does the Premier league start
    shrinking at the end of 93/4?
    
    Paul
13.4041 out of 2 isn't bad I supposeAIMTEC::WICKS_Aon the Streets of San FranciscoMon May 10 1993 23:2310
    Al,
    
    Thanks a lot - glad to see Cardiff sneak the title from Barnet - but
    dejected to see Pompey lose out to the Hammers. Was it on goal
    difference? it must have been close. Hope Swansea don't get promoted 
    so as to avoid getting a good whalloping at Ninian on Boxing Day
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.wicks
13.405pYUPPY::PANESSeratonin junkieTue May 11 1993 12:3620
    <<< Note 13.404 by AIMTEC::WICKS_A "on the Streets of San Francisco" >>>
                      -< 1 out of 2 isn't bad I suppose >-

>    Al,
   
>    Thanks a lot - glad to see Cardiff sneak the title from Barnet - but
>    dejected to see Pompey lose out to the Hammers. Was it on goal
>    difference? it must have been close. Hope Swansea don't get promoted 
>    so as to avoid getting a good whalloping at Ninian on Boxing Day
    
>    Regards,
    
>    Andrew.D.wicks



I believe that Portsmouth missed out by a goal.


Stuart
13.406A slight correctionMOEUR1::SMITHTue May 11 1993 17:047
    
    RE : Last
    
    Portsmouth lost out by TWO goals, coz if they scored one more West Ham
    would have still gone up on goal difference (by about 5 better).
    
    Ian
13.407Play off timetableFORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTATue May 11 1993 18:4025
Division 1

	Leicester City	v	Portsmouth	(At Nottingham Forest)
	Swindon Town	v	Tranmere Rovers

Division 2

	Stockport Cnty	v	Port Vale
	Swansea City	v	West Bromwich Albion

Division 3

	Bury		v	York City
	Crewe Alexandra	v	Walsall

First leg to be played on Sunday 16th May
Second leg on Wednesday 19th May

Finals ( At Wembley )

Division 1	Monday May 31
Division 2	sunday May 30
Division 3	Saturday May 29

Al
13.408Final StandingsFORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAWed May 12 1993 13:2935
The final 2 Premier league games of the Season were played
last night. Both involving Saturday's FA Cup finalists

       Arsenal            1  -  3    Tottenham Hotspur  
       QPR                3  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     

The winner of the Premier League's Golden Boot went to
Teddy Sherringham with 22 goals.

The final table looks like this:

        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                 42   24   12    6   67   31   84   36 
   2 Aston Villa              42   21   11   10   57   40   74   17 
   3 Norwich City             42   21    9   12   61   65   72   -4 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         42   20   11   11   68   46   71   22 
   5 QPR                      42   17   12   13   63   55   63    8 
   6 Liverpool                42   16   11   15   62   55   59    7 
   7 Sheffield Wed.           42   15   14   13   55   51   59    4 
   8 Tottenham Hotspur        42   16   11   15   60   66   59   -6 
   9 Man City                 42   15   12   15   56   51   57    5 
  10 Arsenal                  42   15   11   16   40   38   56    2 
  11 Chelsea                  42   14   14   14   51   54   56   -3 
  12 Wimbledon                42   14   12   16   56   55   54    1 
  13 Everton                  42   15    8   19   53   55   53   -2 
  14 Sheffield Utd.           42   14   10   18   54   53   52    1 
  15 Coventry City            42   13   13   16   52   57   52   -5 
  16 Ipswich Town             42   12   16   14   50   55   52   -5 
  17 Leeds Utd.               42   12   15   15   57   62   51   -5 
  18 Southampton              42   13   11   18   54   61   50   -7 
  19 Oldham Athletic          42   13   10   19   63   74   49  -11 
  20 Crystal Palace           42   11   16   15   48   61   49  -13 
  21 Middlesbrough            42   11   11   20   54   75   44  -21 
  22 Nottingham For           42   10   10   22   41   62   40  -21 
13.409UNTADH::WILCOCKSONSWFC FA CUP 93Wed May 12 1993 17:386
    It looks like both The Owls and The Arse were taking it easy before
    the big game on Saturday.
    I hope Arsenal are psychologically destroyed after losing 3 goals to
    one at home to the Spurs!!
    
    	Al.
13.410All questions this morningAIMTEC::WICKS_AAlphatraz - Coming Summer 93Mon May 17 1993 20:207
    Where's Al with the playoff scores?
    
    When's the F.A replay?
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
13.411BLKPUD::WATTERSONPAll my failings exposedMon May 17 1993 20:4312
    
    Here's what I can remember
    
    Swindon	3-1	Tranmere
    Leicester	1-0	Portsmouth
    
    Crewe	5-1	Walsall
    Stockport	1-1	Port Vale
    
    The thrilling FA cup final replay's on Thursday....zzz zzzz zzz
    
    Paul
13.412FORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAMon May 17 1993 20:5540
F.A. Cup Final

	Arsenal	  1 - 1 Sheffield Wednesday  (H.T. 1-0)
	Wright		Hirst

I thought the game was going to be a re-run of the Coca-Cola Cup Final
at 1/2 time. Wednesday dominating the opening 15 mins. Then Arsenal getting
into the game, scoring and dominating the second half. However, I was wrong.
Wednesday came out with as many cylinders firing as you'd expect after 5 games
in 11 days and took the game to Arsenal. They deservedly equalised through a
well worked goal, and then for the next 10-15 minutes or so looked the more
likely of the 2 sides to take the cup. However, they couldn't get the elusive
goal, and the game fizzled out until the last minute, when Wright forced an
excellent save from Woods, and Arsenal piled on some pressure. Extra time was
a non-event. The only highlight Nilsson's 35 yarder.

F.A. Cup Final Replay

May 20th K.O. 7.30

BBC Starts coverage at 7.20.

Div 1

	Leicester	1 - 0	Portsmouth
	Swindon	 	3 - 1 	Tranmere

	Turned on as Tranmere scored, excellent finish


Div 2
	Stockport Cnty	1 - 1	Port Vale
	Swansea City	2 - 1	West Bromwich Albion

Div 3

	Bury		0 - 0	York City
	Crewe Alexandra	5 - 1	Walsall

Al
13.413Play off 2nd legs...FORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAThu May 20 1993 13:4420
Div 1

	Portsmouth	2 - 2	Leicester	( 2 - 3 )
	Tranmere	3 - 2	Swindon		( 4 - 5 )

Div 2
	Port Vale	1 - 0	Stockport County( 2 - 1 )
	WBA		2 - 0	Swansea City	( 3 - 2 )

Div 3

	York City	1 - 0	Bury		( 1 - 0 )
	Walsall		2 - 4	Crewe Alexandra	( 3 - 9 )


So the play-off finals look like this

Sat 29th May	York City v	Crewe Alexandra
Sun 30th May	Port Vale v	West Bromwich Albion
Mon 31st May	Leicester v	Swindon Town
13.414result please...EICMFG::HOWEThe sinking ship.. has SUNK!!Tue Jun 01 1993 14:218
    
    Could somebody please put me out of my misery and let me know the
    result of the Premier league playoff match from yesterday. All that I
    heard on the radio on the drive into Heathrow was that Leicester came
    back from 3-0 down to get back on level terms with 15 mins to go.
    Sounded pretty exciting stuff all in all!
    
    Keith.
13.415PLUNDR::MORANTripple ripple truffle shufflerTue Jun 01 1993 14:235
    
    Swindon 4 -3 Leicester. Bodin sealed it with a debatable 83rd minute
    penalty.
    
    Tim
13.416Football, as it should be played !FUTURS::ROWELLConquistador, in search of goldTue Jun 01 1993 15:0945
    
    But what a game it was !
    
    Excellant football, played in an excellant atmosphere, with an
    excellant attitude. As for excitement and drama, I was glad I
    was a neutral ( albeit with a slight leaning towards Swindon, as they
    are only up the M4). I hope that someone has been thoughtful enough to
    take a video copy of this game to the England camp in Norway. With
    luck, they may learn something from it(like how to pass).My comiserations
    to Leicester City, and their fans. However, I believe that unless any 
    players get sold( ie Joachim - what a gem), then Leicester will gain 
    promotion next season, without needing the playoffs. Glen Hoddle is 
    turning into as classy a manager as he was a player. At the moment, I 
    cannot decide if I would rather see him, or Kevin Keegan as a future 
    manager of England. For the present I wish both every success in the 
    Premier League. (Mind you, I suppose some credit deserves to go to
    Ossie Ardiles, as he started the ball rolling at Swindon, and look what 
    he has done to West Bromwich Albion. He is also in my shortlist of future
    England managers).
    
    Whatever happens to Hoddle, I only hope that he is allowed to continue
    with the style that he has introduced at Swindon. If he ends up at
    Spurs, that goes without saying, as they are already heading that
    direction ( or are already there, even ?). If Chelsea get him, will 
    Bates give him the time and money to produce such a team ?
    
    It appears to me that there are a few successful teams out there,
    providing a fair few of the U21 and U19 stars ( the U21 team beat
    Poland 4-1 ). I hope that they are encouraged, and allowed to continue 
    to develop in the style and manner to which they have been accustomed.
    
    Under the right managerial attitudes, Englands future *COULD* be very
    bright indeed. Why do I feel so pessimistic about that last sentance ?
    If these young lions are capable of playing in a successful team, why
    are they never given the chance to play for the National team ? How
    many players under the age of 24 is in Taylors squad to play in the
    U.S. ?
    
    Thank you Leicester and Swindon. I, for one, applaud you for relighting 
    a spark of hope in an otherwise dreary league season.
    
    Regards,
    Wayne. ( an Arsenal supporter, but a fan of good football played by
    anyone)
                                                              
13.417Game of the Season...PEKING::WILSOND1DAVE WILSON @WLCTue Jun 01 1993 15:1910
    
    Yep..this was one of the best games of the season, whichever league you
    watch. 
    
    Great to see the old master, Glen Hoddle gracing the Wembley pitch
    again. If/When Terry Venables "leaves" WHL, I only hope Hoddle can be
    purseuded to come and manage the team, and maybe even play himself now
    and again.
    
    Dave...
13.418PLUNDR::MORANTripple ripple truffle shufflerTue Jun 01 1993 15:2412
    
    Yes, it was a great game and it was by no means atypical of the 
    football played in the 1st Division as a whole. It has to be said,
    that I've gained more enjoyment out of watching any Barclays'
    league match, than all bar a few of the televised premier league
    matches. The games seem to flow so much better and the 'football'
    is of a more creative nature, despite the obvious defensive 
    niavities. Hopefully, last season's premier league 'enjoyment'
    quotient will be improved upon by the addition of Newcastle, 
    West Ham and Swindon.
    
    Tim
13.419Scandinavian players?BCFI::MLUNDGRENMagnus Lundgren @JARWed Aug 11 1993 11:4012
Hi!

Does anyone have a complete list of which Scandinavian players will play in the 
English premier league in the coming season? I would also like to now which team 
they play for.

Thanks,

Magnus Lundgren
Stockholm
Scandinavia (!?)

13.420to get you startedFORTY2::ASHMail Interchange Group, ReadingWed Aug 11 1993 16:334
Well, you can check out the Liverpool, Arsenal, Man United, Sheffield Wed 
notes for a start . . .

grahame
13.421Gunnar Halle the Norwegian plays for OldhamSAC::MAGUIRE_GThu Aug 12 1993 21:476
    
    You will find Gunnar Halle in the Oldham Athletic line-up, though it
    was reputed that an Italian club were interested in hin in the summer.
    
    G.
    
13.422And that concludes the scoring from Highbury...ARRODS::OHAGANBBetter to reign in hell...Thu Aug 12 1993 22:3314
    Arsenal have to my knowledge:
    
    Pal Lydersen  - Norway
    John Jensen   - Denmark
    Anders Limpar - Sweden
    
    Unfortunately the Icelandic Siggi Jonson's departure a couple 
    of years back has robbed George Graham of a full Norse pack, 
    if you discount Finland. However, knowing George's Mr Byrite-like 
    forrays into the transfer market, he's probably got scouts in 
    Rekjavic (sp?) and Helsinki as we speak looking for that midfielder 
    who won't make a blind bit of difference to our title hopes.
    
    barry. 
13.423PEKING::JOLLYLViva la rock .... the killer lives onFri Aug 13 1993 17:004
    
    Erland Jonson - Chelsea
    
    Do you want him back?
13.424Blackburn - Central Bank of EuropeWOTVAX::GREENJAAndy GreenFri Aug 13 1993 19:3718
    
    
    Blackburn only have 2 at the moment but according to the press are
    probably interested in another 35,
    
    Henning Berg, a very good full back but not Kennys first choice
    
    and
    
    Patrik Andersson, who looks like he could be a decent player but last
    season appeared to be taken by surprise by anything that
    happened faster than walking-pace.
    
    Still, anybody bought for less than a million can't expect to play in
    the first team can they ?    
    
    
    
13.425NSDC::SIMPSONThe future sure isn't what it used to beFri Aug 13 1993 20:579
RE: .422
 
>>    Unfortunately the Icelandic Siggi Jonson's departure a couple 
>>    of years back has robbed George Graham of a full Norse pack, 

They may not have a  Pack Norse, but they do at least have a donkey to make up
for this.

-Steve
13.426Results - Week1FORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAMon Aug 16 1993 14:2437
       Arsenal            0  -  3    Coventry City      
       Aston Villa        4  -  1    Q.P.R.             
       Chelsea            1  -  2    Blackburn Rovers   
       Liverpool          2  -  0    Sheffield Wed.     
       Man. City          1  -  1    Leeds Utd.         
       Newcastle Utd.     0  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Oldham Athletic    0  -  3    Ipswich Town       
       Sheffield Utd.     3  -  1    Swindon Town       
       Southampton        0  -  2    Everton            
       West Ham Utd.      0  -  2    Wimbledon          
       Norwich City       0  -  2    Man. Utd.          


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Aston Villa               1    1    0    0    4    1    3    3 
   2 Coventry City             1    1    0    0    3    0    3    3 
   3 Ipswich Town              1    1    0    0    3    0    3    3 
   4 Sheffield Utd.            1    1    0    0    3    1    3    2 
   5 Everton                   1    1    0    0    2    0    3    2 
   6 Liverpool                 1    1    0    0    2    0    3    2 
   7 Man. Utd.                 1    1    0    0    2    0    3    2 
   8 Wimbledon                 1    1    0    0    2    0    3    2 
   9 Blackburn Rovers          1    1    0    0    2    1    3    1 
  10 Tottenham Hotspur         1    1    0    0    1    0    3    1 
  11 Leeds Utd.                1    0    1    0    1    1    1    0 
  12 Man. City                 1    0    1    0    1    1    1    0 
  13 Chelsea                   1    0    0    1    1    2    0   -1 
  14 Newcastle Utd.            1    0    0    1    0    1    0   -1 
  15 Swindon Town              1    0    0    1    1    3    0   -2 
  16 Norwich City              1    0    0    1    0    2    0   -2 
  17 Sheffield Wed.            1    0    0    1    0    2    0   -2 
  18 Southampton               1    0    0    1    0    2    0   -2 
  19 West Ham Utd.             1    0    0    1    0    2    0   -2 
  20 Q.P.R.                    1    0    0    1    1    4    0   -3 
  21 Arsenal                   1    0    0    1    0    3    0   -3 
  22 Oldham Athletic           1    0    0    1    0    3    0   -3 
13.427ResultsFORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAThu Aug 19 1993 14:2439
       Tottenham          0  -  1    Arsenal

       Everton            1  -  0    Man. City          
       Ipswich Town       1  -  0    Southampton        
       Leeds Utd.         1  -  0    West Ham Utd.      
       Wimbledon          1  -  1    Chelsea            

       Blackburn Rovers   2  -  3    Norwich City       
       Coventry City      2  -  1    Newcastle Utd.     
       Man. Utd.          3  -  0    Sheffield Utd.     
       Q.P.R.             1  -  3    Liverpool          
       Sheffield Wed.     0  -  0    Aston Villa        
       Swindon Town       0  -  1    Oldham Athletic    


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                 2    2    0    0    5    0    6    5 
   2 Coventry City             2    2    0    0    5    1    6    4 
   3 Liverpool                 2    2    0    0    5    1    6    4 
   4 Ipswich Town              2    2    0    0    4    0    6    4 
   5 Everton                   2    2    0    0    3    0    6    3 
   6 Aston Villa               2    1    1    0    4    1    4    3 
   7 Wimbledon                 2    1    1    0    3    1    4    2 
   8 Leeds Utd.                2    1    1    0    2    1    4    1 
   9 Blackburn Rovers          2    1    0    1    4    4    3    0 
  10 Tottenham Hotspur         2    1    0    1    1    1    3    0 
  11 Norwich City              2    1    0    1    3    4    3   -1 
  12 Sheffield Utd.            2    1    0    1    3    4    3   -1 
  13 Arsenal                   2    1    0    1    1    3    3   -2 
  14 Oldham Athletic           2    1    0    1    1    3    3   -2 
  15 Chelsea                   2    0    1    1    2    3    1   -1 
  16 Man. City                 2    0    1    1    1    2    1   -1 
  17 Sheffield Wed.            2    0    1    1    0    2    1   -2 
  18 Newcastle Utd.            2    0    0    2    1    3    0   -2 
  19 Swindon Town              2    0    0    2    1    4    0   -3 
  20 Southampton               2    0    0    2    0    3    0   -3 
  21 West Ham Utd.             2    0    0    2    0    3    0   -3 
  22 Q.P.R.                    2    0    0    2    2    7    0   -5 
13.4282nd WeekendFORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAMon Aug 23 1993 14:2739
       Blackburn Rovers   1  -  0    Oldham Athletic    
       Coventry City      1  -  1    West Ham Utd.      
       Everton            4  -  2    Sheffield Utd.     
       Ipswich Town       1  -  0    Chelsea            
       Leeds Utd.         0  -  4    Norwich City       
       Man. Utd.          1  -  1    Newcastle Utd.     
       Q.P.R.             2  -  1    Southampton        
       Sheffield Wed.     0  -  1    Arsenal            
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  0    Man. City          
       Wimbledon          2  -  2    Aston Villa        

	Sun
       Swindon Town       0  -  5    Liverpool          


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Liverpool                 3    3    0    0   10    1    9    9 
   2 Everton                   3    3    0    0    7    2    9    5 
   3 Ipswich Town              3    3    0    0    5    0    9    5 
   4 Man. Utd.                 3    2    1    0    6    1    7    5 
   5 Coventry City             3    2    1    0    6    2    7    4 
   6 Norwich City              3    2    0    1    7    4    6    3 
   7 Blackburn Rovers          3    2    0    1    5    4    6    1 
   8 Tottenham Hotspur         3    2    0    1    2    1    6    1 
   9 Arsenal                   3    2    0    1    2    3    6   -1 
  10 Aston Villa               3    1    2    0    6    3    5    3 
  11 Wimbledon                 3    1    2    0    5    3    5    2 
  12 Leeds Utd.                3    1    1    1    2    5    4   -3 
  13 Sheffield Utd.            3    1    0    2    5    8    3   -3 
  14 Oldham Athletic           3    1    0    2    1    4    3   -3 
  15 Q.P.R.                    3    1    0    2    4    8    3   -4 
  16 Chelsea                   3    0    1    2    2    4    1   -2 
  17 Newcastle Utd.            3    0    1    2    2    4    1   -2 
  18 Man. City                 3    0    1    2    1    3    1   -2 
  19 West Ham Utd.             3    0    1    2    1    4    1   -3 
  20 Sheffield Wed.            3    0    1    2    0    3    1   -3 
  21 Southampton               3    0    0    3    1    5    0   -4 
  22 Swindon Town              3    0    0    3    1    9    0   -8 
13.429Not many drawsNEWOA::FIDO_TConation is the keyMon Aug 23 1993 15:535
    It strikes me that only 6 draws from 33 games is a bit on the low side.
    Q1 Is it ?
    Q2 Has anyone got any theories as to why it is so low ( if it is ) ?
    
    Terry
13.430variance of sigma squared over jibberishCHEFS::HARRISRGoosenargh!Mon Aug 23 1993 16:0014
     << Q1 Is it ?
     Q2 Has anyone got any theories as to why it is so low ( if it is )?>> 
    
    A1 yes it is low
    
    A2 There is a random distribution of results. There is no way that a
    result can be predicted with 100% accuracy, so averages have to come
    into play. If on average there are ten draws in a week, then some weeks
    there will be more and some there will be less. ( simple ain't it ).
    This time there were a lot less, but it still is just part of the
    unpredictability of soccer.
    
    Rich H
     
13.431Midweek results - No draws again!!!FORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAThu Aug 26 1993 14:2645
        Mon 23 Aug

       Aston Villa        1  -  2    Man Utd.           

        Tues 24 Aug

       Arsenal            2  -  1    Leeds Utd.         
       Man City           0  -  2    Blackburn Rovers   
       Oldham Athletic    3  -  3    Coventry City      
       Sheffield Utd.     2  -  1    Wimbledon          

        Wed 25 Aug

       Chelsea            2  -  0    QPR                
       Liverpool          1  -  2    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Newcastle Utd.     1  -  0    Everton            
       Norwich City       1  -  0    Ipswich Town       
       Southampton        5  -  1    Swindon Town       
       West Ham Utd.      2  -  0    Sheffield Wed.     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man Utd.                  4    3    1    0    8    2   10    6 
   2 Liverpool                 4    3    0    1   11    3    9    8 
   3 Norwich City              4    3    0    1    8    4    9    4 
   4 Everton                   4    3    0    1    7    3    9    4 
   5 Ipswich Town              4    3    0    1    5    1    9    4 
   6 Blackburn Rovers          4    3    0    1    7    4    9    3 
   7 Tottenham Hotspur         4    3    0    1    4    2    9    2 
   8 Arsenal                   4    3    0    1    4    4    9    0 
   9 Coventry City             4    2    2    0    9    5    8    4 
  10 Sheffield Utd.            4    2    0    2    7    9    6   -2 
  11 Aston Villa               4    1    2    1    7    5    5    2 
  12 Wimbledon                 4    1    2    1    6    5    5    1 
  13 Chelsea                   4    1    1    2    4    4    4    0 
  14 Newcastle Utd.            4    1    1    2    3    4    4   -1 
  15 West Ham Utd.             4    1    1    2    3    4    4   -1 
  16 Oldham Athletic           4    1    1    2    4    7    4   -3 
  17 Leeds Utd.                4    1    1    2    3    7    4   -4 
  18 Southampton               4    1    0    3    6    6    3    0 
  19 QPR                       4    1    0    3    4   10    3   -6 
  20 Man City                  4    0    1    3    1    5    1   -4 
  21 Sheffield Wed.            4    0    1    3    0    5    1   -5 
  22 Swindon Town              4    0    0    4    2   14    0  -12 
13.432What's it all mean ?NEWOA::FIDO_TConation is the keyThu Aug 26 1993 14:497
    
    Still only 6 draws from 44 premiership matches
    
    ... and only 2 teams left unbeaten after 4 games.
    
    Terry
    
13.433This is the second time today I'm after scores!!EICMFG::HOWELife's a pile of sh*t, when you look at it!Mon Aug 30 1993 19:335
    
    Anyone got the Premier League scores from this w/e gone??
    
    Keith.
    
13.434BLKPUD::WATTERSONPCalais Boston SouthportMon Aug 30 1993 19:4317
    
    From memory
    
    Arsenal	2-0	Everton
    Aston Villa	1-0	Tottenham
    Norwich	0-0	Swindon
    Southampton	1-3	Man Utd
    Sheff Utd	1-1	Ipswich
    Liverpool	2-0	Leeds
    Chelsea	1-1	Sheff Wed
    West Ham	0-4	QPR
    
    Newcastle	1-1	Blackburn (Sunday)
    Man City	1-1	Coventry (Friday)
    
    
    Paul
13.435Last 2 roundsFORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAMon Sep 06 1993 15:2659
        Fri 27th Aug
       Man. City          1  -  1    Coventry City      

	Sat 28th Aug
       Arsenal            2  -  0    Everton            
       Aston Villa        1  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Chelsea            1  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Liverpool          2  -  0    Leeds Utd.         
       Norwich City       0  -  0    Swindon Town       
       Oldham Athletic    1  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Sheffield Utd.     1  -  1    Ipswich Town       
       Southampton        1  -  3    Man. Utd.          
       West Ham Utd.      0  -  4    Q.P.R.             

	Sun 29th Aug
       Newcastle Utd.     1  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   

        Mon 30th Aug
       Leeds Utd.         1  -  0    Oldham Athletic    

        Tues 31st Aug
       Everton            0  -  1    Aston Villa        
       Ipswich Town       1  -  1    Newcastle Utd.     
       Wimbledon          1  -  0    Southampton        

	Wed 1st Sep
       Blackburn Rovers   1  -  1    Arsenal            
       Coventry City      1  -  0    Liverpool          
       Man. Utd.          3  -  0    West Ham Utd.      
       Q.P.R.             2  -  1    Sheffield Utd.     
       Sheffield Wed.     3  -  3    Norwich City       
       Swindon Town       1  -  3    Man. City          
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  1    Chelsea            


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                 6    5    1    0   14    3   16   11 
   2 Arsenal                   6    4    1    1    7    5   13    2 
   3 Liverpool                 6    4    0    2   13    4   12    9 
   4 Coventry City             6    3    3    0   11    6   12    5 
   5 Norwich City              6    3    2    1   11    7   11    4 
   6 Aston Villa               6    3    2    1    9    5   11    4 
   7 Ipswich Town              6    3    2    1    7    3   11    4 
   8 Blackburn Rovers          6    3    2    1    9    6   11    3 
   9 Tottenham Hotspur         6    3    1    2    5    4   10    1 
  10 Wimbledon                 6    2    3    1    8    6    9    2 
  11 Everton                   6    3    0    3    7    6    9    1 
  12 Q.P.R.                    6    3    0    3   10   11    9   -1 
  13 Sheffield Utd.            6    2    1    3    9   12    7   -3 
  14 Leeds Utd.                6    2    1    3    4    9    7   -5 
  15 Chelsea                   6    1    3    2    6    6    6    0 
  16 Newcastle Utd.            6    1    3    2    5    6    6   -1 
  17 Man. City                 6    1    2    3    5    7    5   -2 
  18 Oldham Athletic           6    1    2    3    5    9    5   -4 
  19 West Ham Utd.             6    1    1    4    3   11    4   -8 
  20 Southampton               6    1    0    5    7   10    3   -3 
  21 Sheffield Wed.            6    0    3    3    4    9    3   -5 
  22 Swindon Town              6    0    1    5    3   17    1  -14 
13.436FORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAMon Sep 13 1993 13:5739
	Sat 11th Sep
       Arsenal            4  -  0    Ipswich Town       
       Aston Villa        0  -  0    Coventry City      
       Chelsea            1  -  0    Man. Utd.          
       Man. City          3  -  0    Q.P.R.             
       Norwich City       0  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Oldham Athletic    0  -  1    Everton            
       Sheffield Utd.     2  -  2    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Southampton        0  -  2    Leeds Utd.		At Last!!!! :-)         
       West Ham Utd.      0  -  0    Swindon Town

	Sun 12th       
       Liverpool          0  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                 7    5    1    1   14    4   16   10 
   2 Arsenal                   7    5    1    1   11    5   16    6 
   3 Blackburn Rovers          7    4    2    1   10    6   14    4 
   4 Coventry City             7    3    4    0   11    6   13    5 
   5 Liverpool                 7    4    0    3   13    5   12    8 
   6 Aston Villa               7    3    3    1    9    5   12    4 
   7 Wimbledon                 7    3    3    1    9    6   12    3 
   8 Everton                   7    4    0    3    8    6   12    2 
   9 Norwich City              7    3    2    2   11    8   11    3 
  10 Tottenham Hotspur         7    3    2    2    7    6   11    1 
  11 Ipswich Town              7    3    2    2    7    7   11    0 
  12 Leeds Utd.                7    3    1    3    6    9   10   -3 
  13 Chelsea                   7    2    3    2    7    6    9    1 
  14 Q.P.R.                    7    3    0    4   10   14    9   -4 
  15 Man. City                 7    2    2    3    8    7    8    1 
  16 Sheffield Utd.            7    2    2    3   11   14    8   -3 
  17 Newcastle Utd.            6    1    3    2    5    6    6   -1 
  18 Oldham Athletic           7    1    2    4    5   10    5   -5 
  19 West Ham Utd.             7    1    2    4    3   11    5   -8 
  20 Southampton               7    1    0    6    7   12    3   -5 
  21 Sheffield Wed.            6    0    3    3    4    9    3   -5 
  22 Swindon Town              7    0    2    5    3   17    2  -14 
13.437FORTY2::ASHMail Interchange Group, ReadingTue Sep 14 1993 16:573
Come on, Al - where's last night's result?!!

grahame
13.438re -.1FORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTATue Sep 14 1993 17:0636
Some small team from 
the back of beyond where 
people speak with funny accents 4  A great team having a bad start  2

:-) :-)

or


        Newcastle Utd.     4  -  2    Sheffield Wed.     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                 7    5    1    1   14    4   16   10 
   2 Arsenal                   7    5    1    1   11    5   16    6 
   3 Blackburn Rovers          7    4    2    1   10    6   14    4 
   4 Coventry City             7    3    4    0   11    6   13    5 
   5 Liverpool                 7    4    0    3   13    5   12    8 
   6 Aston Villa               7    3    3    1    9    5   12    4 
   7 Wimbledon                 7    3    3    1    9    6   12    3 
   8 Everton                   7    4    0    3    8    6   12    2 
   9 Norwich City              7    3    2    2   11    8   11    3 
  10 Tottenham Hotspur         7    3    2    2    7    6   11    1 
  11 Ipswich Town              7    3    2    2    7    7   11    0 
  12 Leeds Utd.                7    3    1    3    6    9   10   -3 
  13 Newcastle Utd.            7    2    3    2    9    8    9    1 
  14 Chelsea                   7    2    3    2    7    6    9    1 
  15 Q.P.R.                    7    3    0    4   10   14    9   -4 
  16 Man. City                 7    2    2    3    8    7    8    1 
  17 Sheffield Utd.            7    2    2    3   11   14    8   -3 
  18 Oldham Athletic           7    1    2    4    5   10    5   -5 
  19 West Ham Utd.             7    1    2    4    3   11    5   -8 
  20 Southampton               7    1    0    6    7   12    3   -5 
  21 Sheffield Wed.            7    0    3    4    6   13    3   -7 
  22 Swindon Town              7    0    2    5    3   17    2  -14
13.439Wednesday in trouble?YUPPY::PATEMANI'm a Mean Green Mutha from Outa SpaceTue Sep 14 1993 17:465
    At the risk of being shouted down, Wednesday's start looks very similar
    to Palace's last year, draws and defeats. Maybe its something to do
    with having Mark "get on-side" Bright?
    
    Paul
13.440ECCGY4::HAIGHIf voting ever solved anything, they'd ban it.Thu Sep 16 1993 13:4312
    
    	I think Wednesday will sort it out. They are to good to be down
    there. It was a cracking game on Monday, superb stuff, Wednesdays
    second was brilliant Waddle skinning the defender and hitting the
    perfect cross, even I could have scored from there. (Well maybe!)
    Wednesday should have secured it after that though.
    
    	Newcastle played very well and just deserved their win. Their crowd
    will be worth about 10 points this year.
    
    
    			Steve
13.441NEWOA::GUTHRIE_JPanic SleeperThu Sep 16 1993 16:426
    Nobody is "to good to be down there",just look at Forest last season
    everyone kept saying there to good to go down and look at them now.
    Although I must admit Wednesday's start has surprised me.
    
    Jason
    
13.442never too good to go downMACNAS::MJGREANEYI WAKE-UP SLEEPINGFri Sep 17 1993 15:359
    re:-1,-2
    
    and  Forest can only manage a mid table position at present "in the
    jungle"
    
    
    Wednesday....watch out!!!!!!!!!!
    
    M.J.
13.443Round 8FORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAMon Sep 20 1993 14:1848
	Sat 18th

       Blackburn Rovers   0  -  2    West Ham Utd.      
       Coventry City      1  -  1    Chelsea            
       Everton            2  -  0    Liverpool          
       Ipswich Town       1  -  2    Aston Villa        
       Leeds Utd.         2  -  1    Sheffield Utd.     
       Q.P.R.             2  -  2    Norwich City       
       Sheffield Wed.     2  -  0    Southampton        
       Swindon Town       2  -  2    Newcastle Utd.     
       Tottenham Hotspur  5  -  0    Oldham Athletic    

	Sun 19th

       Man. Utd.          1  -  0    Arsenal            


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                 8    6    1    1   15    4   19   11 
   2 Arsenal                   8    5    1    2   11    6   16    5 
   3 Aston Villa               8    4    3    1   11    6   15    5 
   4 Everton                   8    5    0    3   10    6   15    4 
   5 Tottenham Hotspur         8    4    2    2   12    6   14    6 
   6 Coventry City             8    3    5    0   12    7   14    5 
   7 Blackburn Rovers          8    4    2    2   10    8   14    2 
   8 Leeds Utd.                8    4    1    3    8   10   13   -2 
   9 Liverpool                 8    4    0    4   13    7   12    6 
  10 Norwich City              8    3    3    2   13   10   12    3 
  11 Wimbledon                 7    3    3    1    9    6   12    3 
  12 Ipswich Town              8    3    2    3    8    9   11   -1 
  13 Newcastle Utd.            8    2    4    2   11   10   10    1 
  14 Chelsea                   8    2    4    2    8    7   10    1 
  15 Q.P.R.                    8    3    1    4   12   16   10   -4 
  16 Man. City                 7    2    2    3    8    7    8    1 
  17 Sheffield Utd.            8    2    2    4   12   16    8   -4 
  18 West Ham Utd.             8    2    2    4    5   11    8   -6 
  19 Sheffield Wed.            8    1    3    4    8   13    6   -5 
  20 Oldham Athletic           8    1    2    5    5   15    5  -10 
  21 Southampton               8    1    0    7    7   14    3   -7 
  22 Swindon Town              8    0    3    5    5   19    3  -14 

This evening, what has to be the game of the season so far :-)


	Wimbledon v Manchester City !!!

Al
13.444Round 9FORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAMon Sep 27 1993 12:1845
	Sat 25th

       Arsenal            1  -  0    Southampton        
       Blackburn Rovers   1  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Chelsea            1  -  0    Liverpool          
       Coventry City      0  -  2    Leeds Utd.         
       Everton            1  -  5    Norwich City       
       Man. Utd.          4  -  2    Swindon Town       
       Newcastle Utd.     2  -  0    West Ham Utd.      
       Oldham Athletic    1  -  1    Aston Villa        
       Sheffield Utd.     0  -  1    Man. City          

	Sun 26th

       Ipswich Town       2  -  2    Tottenham Hotspur  


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                 9    7    1    1   19    6   22   13 
   2 Arsenal                   9    6    1    2   12    6   19    6 
   3 Aston Villa               9    4    4    1   12    7   16    5 
   4 Leeds Utd.                9    5    1    3   10   10   16    0 
   5 Norwich City              9    4    3    2   18   11   15    7 
   6 Tottenham Hotspur         9    4    3    2   14    8   15    6 
   7 Wimbledon                 8    4    3    1   10    6   15    4 
   8 Blackburn Rovers          9    4    3    2   11    9   15    2 
   9 Everton                   9    5    0    4   11   11   15    0 
  10 Coventry City             9    3    5    1   12    9   14    3 
  11 Newcastle Utd.            9    3    4    2   13   10   13    3 
  12 Chelsea                   9    3    4    2    9    7   13    2 
  13 Liverpool                 9    4    0    5   13    8   12    5 
  14 Ipswich Town              9    3    3    3   10   11   12   -1 
  15 Man. City                 9    3    2    4    9    8   11    1 
  16 Q.P.R.                    8    3    1    4   12   16   10   -4 
  17 Sheffield Utd.            9    2    2    5   12   17    8   -5 
  18 West Ham Utd.             9    2    2    5    5   13    8   -8 
  19 Sheffield Wed.            9    1    4    4    9   14    7   -5 
  20 Oldham Athletic           9    1    3    5    6   16    6  -10 
  21 Southampton               9    1    0    8    7   15    3   -8 
  22 Swindon Town              9    0    3    6    7   23    3  -16 

Tonight

	Wimbledon v Q.P.R.
13.445Round 10FORTY2::ROBERTSONLiving with Flamingos on the DELTAMon Oct 04 1993 13:4550
Monday 27th September

       Wimbledon          1  -  1    Q.P.R.             

Saturday 2nd October

       Aston Villa        0  -  2    Newcastle Utd.     
       Leeds Utd.         4  -  0    Wimbledon          
       Liverpool          0  -  0    Arsenal            
       Norwich City       1  -  0    Coventry City      
       Q.P.R.             3  -  0    Ipswich Town       
       Sheffield Wed.     2  -  3    Man. Utd.          
       Southampton        3  -  3    Sheffield Utd.     
       Swindon Town       1  -  3    Blackburn Rovers   
       West Ham Utd.      1  -  0    Chelsea

Sunday 3rd October
            
       Tottenham Hotspur  3  -  2    Everton            


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                10    8    1    1   22    8   25   14 
   2 Arsenal                  10    6    2    2   12    6   20    6 
   3 Leeds Utd.               10    6    1    3   14   10   19    4 
   4 Norwich City             10    5    3    2   19   11   18    8 
   5 Tottenham Hotspur        10    5    3    2   17   10   18    7 
   6 Blackburn Rovers         10    5    3    2   14   10   18    4 
   7 Newcastle Utd.           10    4    4    2   15   10   16    5 
   8 Aston Villa              10    4    4    2   12    9   16    3 
   9 Wimbledon                10    4    4    2   11   11   16    0 
  10 Everton                  10    5    0    5   13   14   15   -1 
  11 Coventry City            10    3    5    2   12   10   14    2 
  12 Q.P.R.                   10    4    2    4   16   17   14   -1 
  13 Liverpool                10    4    1    5   13    8   13    5 
  14 Chelsea                  10    3    4    3    9    8   13    1 
  15 Ipswich Town             10    3    3    4   10   14   12   -4 
  16 Man. City                 9    3    2    4    9    8   11    1 
  17 West Ham Utd.            10    3    2    5    6   13   11   -7 
  18 Sheffield Utd.           10    2    3    5   15   20    9   -5 
  19 Sheffield Wed.           10    1    4    5   11   17    7   -6 
  20 Oldham Athletic           9    1    3    5    6   16    6  -10 
  21 Southampton              10    1    1    8   10   18    4   -8 
  22 Swindon Town             10    0    3    7    8   26    3  -18 


Tonight

	Manchester City  v Oldham Athletic
13.446Round 11FORTY2::ROBERTSONCan't think of a decent personal nameMon Oct 18 1993 18:5744
	Sat 16th

       Arsenal            0  -  0    Man. City          
       Chelsea            1  -  2    Norwich City       
       Coventry City      1  -  1    Southampton        
       Liverpool          2  -  1    Oldham Athletic    
       Man. Utd.          2  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Newcastle Utd.     1  -  2    Q.P.R.             
       Sheffield Wed.     2  -  2    Wimbledon          
       Swindon Town       1  -  1    Everton            
       West Ham Utd.      0  -  0    Aston Villa
       
	Sun 17th
       Ipswich Town       0  -  0    Leeds Utd.         


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                11    9    1    1   24    9   28   15 
   2 Norwich City             11    6    3    2   21   12   21    9 
   3 Arsenal                  11    6    3    2   12    6   21    6 
   4 Leeds Utd.               11    6    2    3   14   10   20    4 
   5 Tottenham Hotspur        11    5    3    3   18   12   18    6 
   6 Blackburn Rovers         10    5    3    2   14   10   18    4 
   7 Aston Villa              11    4    5    2   12    9   17    3 
   8 Q.P.R.                   11    5    2    4   18   18   17    0 
   9 Wimbledon                11    4    5    2   13   13   17    0 
  10 Liverpool                11    5    1    5   15    9   16    6 
  11 Newcastle Utd.           11    4    4    3   16   12   16    4 
  12 Everton                  11    5    1    5   14   15   16   -1 
  13 Coventry City            11    3    6    2   13   11   15    2 
  14 Man. City                11    3    4    4   10    9   13    1 
  15 Chelsea                  11    3    4    4   10   10   13    0 
  16 Ipswich Town             11    3    4    4   10   14   13   -4 
  17 West Ham Utd.            11    3    3    5    6   13   12   -7 
  18 Sheffield Utd.           10    2    3    5   15   20    9   -5 
  19 Sheffield Wed.           11    1    5    5   13   19    8   -6 
  20 Oldham Athletic          11    1    4    6    8   19    7  -11 
  21 Southampton              11    1    2    8   11   19    5   -8 
  22 Swindon Town             11    0    4    7    9   27    4  -18 

This evening

	Blackburn v Sheffield Utd.
13.447Blackburn leapfrog SpursFORTY2::ROBERTSONCan't think of a decent personal nameTue Oct 19 1993 13:163
Last night's result

       Blackburn          0  -  0    Sheffield Utd.
13.448Round 12FORTY2::ROBERTSONOSAKWed Oct 27 1993 16:5245
	Sat 23rd

       Aston Villa        1  -  0    Chelsea            
       Everton            0  -  1    Man. Utd.          
       Leeds Utd.         3  -  3    Blackburn Rovers   
       Man. City          1  -  1    Liverpool          
       Norwich City       0  -  0    West Ham Utd.      
       Oldham Athletic    0  -  0    Arsenal            
       Q.P.R.             5  -  1    Coventry City      
       Sheffield Utd.     1  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  1    Swindon Town 

	Sunday 24th      

       Southampton        2  -  1    Newcastle Utd.     

	Monday 25th

       Wimbledon          0  -  2    Ipswich Town       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                12   10    1    1   25    9   31   16 
   2 Norwich City             12    6    4    2   21   12   22    9 
   3 Arsenal                  12    6    4    2   12    6   22    6 
   4 Leeds Utd.               12    6    3    3   17   13   21    4 
   5 Q.P.R.                   12    6    2    4   23   19   20    4 
   6 Blackburn Rovers         12    5    5    2   17   13   20    4 
   7 Aston Villa              12    5    5    2   13    9   20    4 
   8 Tottenham Hotspur        12    5    4    3   19   13   19    6 
   9 Liverpool                12    5    2    5   16   10   17    6 
  10 Wimbledon                12    4    5    3   13   15   17   -2 
  11 Newcastle Utd.           12    4    4    4   17   14   16    3 
  12 Everton                  12    5    1    6   14   16   16   -2 
  13 Ipswich Town             12    4    4    4   12   14   16   -2 
  14 Coventry City            12    3    6    3   14   16   15   -2 
  15 Man. City                12    3    5    4   11   10   14    1 
  16 Chelsea                  12    3    4    5   10   11   13   -1 
  17 West Ham Utd.            12    3    4    5    6   13   13   -7 
  18 Sheffield Utd.           12    2    5    5   16   21   11   -5 
  19 Sheffield Wed.           12    1    6    5   14   20    9   -6 
  20 Southampton              12    2    2    8   13   20    8   -7 
  21 Oldham Athletic          12    1    5    6    8   19    8  -11 
  22 Swindon Town             12    0    5    7   10   28    5  -18 
13.449Round 13FORTY2::ROBERTSONMon Nov 01 1993 16:1641
	Sat 30th Oct
	
       Arsenal            0  -  0    Norwich City       
       Blackburn Rovers   1  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Chelsea            0  -  1    Oldham Athletic    
       Ipswich Town       0  -  2    Everton            
       Liverpool          4  -  2    Southampton        
       Man. Utd.          2  -  1    Q.P.R.             
       Newcastle Utd.     4  -  0    Wimbledon          
       Sheffield Wed.     3  -  3    Leeds Utd.         
       Swindon Town       1  -  2    Aston Villa

        Sun 31st Oct
       Coventry City      0  -  0    Sheffield Utd.     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                13   11    1    1   27   10   34   17 
   2 Norwich City             13    6    5    2   21   12   23    9 
   3 Arsenal                  13    6    5    2   12    6   23    6 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         13    6    5    2   18   13   23    5 
   5 Aston Villa              13    6    5    2   15   10   23    5 
   6 Leeds Utd.               13    6    4    3   20   16   22    4 
   7 Liverpool                13    6    2    5   20   12   20    8 
   8 Q.P.R.                   13    6    2    5   24   21   20    3 
   9 Newcastle Utd.           13    5    4    4   21   14   19    7 
  10 Tottenham Hotspur        13    5    4    4   19   14   19    5 
  11 Everton                  13    6    1    6   16   16   19    0 
  12 Wimbledon                13    4    5    4   13   19   17   -6 
  13 Coventry City            13    3    7    3   14   16   16   -2 
  14 Ipswich Town             13    4    4    5   12   16   16   -4 
  15 Man. City                12    3    5    4   11   10   14    1 
  16 Chelsea                  13    3    4    6   10   12   13   -2 
  17 West Ham Utd.            12    3    4    5    6   13   13   -7 
  18 Sheffield Utd.           13    2    6    5   16   21   12   -5 
  19 Oldham Athletic          13    2    5    6    9   19   11  -10 
  20 Sheffield Wed.           13    1    7    5   17   23   10   -6 
  21 Southampton              13    2    2    9   15   24    8   -9 
  22 Swindon Town             13    0    5    8   11   30    5  -19 
1
13.450Who holds the record?AIMTEC::WICKS_AU.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there!Tue Nov 02 1993 01:599
    Seems the most relevant place to ask - apologied if I missed the answer
    elsewhere.
    
    What's the record in the 1st Divison or Premier Thingy for consecutive
    games without a victory (Swindon now have 13)
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
13.451Round 14FORTY2::ROBERTSONFri Nov 12 1993 16:1145
	Sat 6th

       Arsenal            1  -  2    Aston Villa        
       Coventry City      2  -  1    Everton            
       Ipswich Town       1  -  4    Sheffield Wed.     
       Leeds Utd.         4  -  1    Chelsea            
       Liverpool          2  -  0    West Ham Utd.      
       Q.P.R.             1  -  0    Blackburn Rovers   
       Sheffield Utd.     1  -  2    Norwich City       
       Southampton        1  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Wimbledon          3  -  0    Swindon Town       

	Sun 7th

       Man. City          2  -  3    Man. Utd.          

	Mon 8th

       Oldham Athletic    1  -  3    Newcastle Utd.     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                14   12    1    1   30   12   37   18 
   2 Norwich City             14    7    5    2   23   13   26   10 
   3 Aston Villa              14    7    5    2   17   11   26    6 
   4 Leeds Utd.               14    7    4    3   24   17   25    7 
   5 Liverpool                14    7    2    5   22   12   23   10 
   6 Arsenal                  14    6    5    3   13    8   23    5 
   7 Q.P.R.                   14    7    2    5   25   21   23    4 
   8 Blackburn Rovers         14    6    5    3   18   14   23    4 
   9 Newcastle Utd.           14    6    4    4   24   15   22    9 
  10 Wimbledon                14    5    5    4   16   19   20   -3 
  11 Tottenham Hotspur        14    5    4    5   19   15   19    4 
  12 Everton                  14    6    1    7   17   18   19   -1 
  13 Coventry City            14    4    7    3   16   17   19   -1 
  14 Ipswich Town             14    4    4    6   13   20   16   -7 
  15 West Ham Utd.            14    4    4    6    9   16   16   -7 
  16 Man. City                14    3    5    6   14   16   14   -2 
  17 Sheffield Wed.           14    2    7    5   21   24   13   -3 
  18 Chelsea                  14    3    4    7   11   16   13   -5 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           14    2    6    6   17   23   12   -6 
  20 Southampton              14    3    2    9   16   24   11   -8 
  21 Oldham Athletic          14    2    5    7   10   22   11  -12 
  22 Swindon Town             14    0    5    9   11   33    5  -22 
13.452Round 15FORTY2::ROBERTSONMon Nov 22 1993 13:2366
	Sat 20th

       Aston Villa        1  -  0    Sheffield Utd.     
       Blackburn Rovers   2  -  0    Southampton        
       Chelsea            0  -  2    Arsenal            
       Everton            0  -  3    Q.P.R.             
       Man. Utd.          3  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Norwich City       1  -  1    Man. City          
       Sheffield Wed.     0  -  0    Coventry City      
       Swindon Town       2  -  2    Ipswich Town       
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  1    Leeds Utd.         
       West Ham Utd.      2  -  0    Oldham Athletic

	Sun 21st
    
       Newcastle Utd.     3  -  0    Liverpool          


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                15   13    1    1   33   13   40   20 
   2 Aston Villa              15    8    5    2   18   11   29    7 
   3 Norwich City             15    7    6    2   24   14   27   10 
   4 Q.P.R.                   15    8    2    5   28   21   26    7 
   5 Leeds Utd.               15    7    5    3   25   18   26    7 
   6 Arsenal                  15    7    5    3   15    8   26    7 
   7 Blackburn Rovers         15    7    5    3   20   14   26    6 
   8 Newcastle Utd.           15    7    4    4   27   15   25   12 
   9 Liverpool                15    7    2    6   22   15   23    7 
  10 Tottenham Hotspur        15    5    5    5   20   16   20    4 
  11 Coventry City            15    4    8    3   16   17   20   -1 
  12 Wimbledon                15    5    5    5   17   22   20   -5 
  13 Everton                  15    6    1    8   17   21   19   -4 
  14 West Ham Utd.            15    5    4    6   11   16   19   -5 
  15 Ipswich Town             15    4    5    6   15   22   17   -7 
  16 Man. City                15    3    6    6   15   17   15   -2 
  17 Sheffield Wed.           15    2    8    5   21   24   14   -3 
  18 Chelsea                  15    3    4    8   11   18   13   -7 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           15    2    6    7   17   24   12   -7 
  20 Southampton              15    3    2   10   16   26   11  -10 
  21 Oldham Athletic          15    2    5    8   10   24   11  -14 
  22 Swindon Town             15    0    6    9   13   35    6  -22 

Mid week fixtures:

Tonight

Chelsea		 v	Man. City

Tuesday

Blackburn Rovers v	Coventry
Everton		 v	Leeds Utd

Wednesday

Aston Villa	 v	Southampton
Man. Utd	 v	Ipswich Town
Newcastle Utd	 v	Sheffield Utd
Sheffield Wed.	 v	Oldham Athletic
Swindon Town	 v	Q.P.R.
Tottenham	 v	Wimbledon
West Ham Utd	 v	Arsenal


All saturday's home teams are at home again during the week!!!
13.453Football on MondaysPLAYER::LESOILMon Nov 22 1993 23:225
    
    Chelsea  v  Man. City   lives on Eurosport (not the English Eurosport
    of course), like all English Monday matches.
                                                                     
    Ph./
13.454Round 16FORTY2::ROBERTSONThu Nov 25 1993 12:5746
Midweek games:

	Monday

       Chelsea            0  -  0    Man. City          

	Tuesday

       Blackburn Rovers   2  -  1    Coventry City      
       Everton            1  -  1    Leeds Utd.         

	Wednesday

       Aston Villa        0  -  2    Southampton        
       Man. Utd.          0  -  0    Ipswich Town       
       Newcastle Utd.     4  -  0    Sheffield Utd.     
       Sheffield Wed.     3  -  0    Oldham Athletic    
       Swindon Town       1  -  0    Q.P.R.             
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  1    Wimbledon          
       West Ham Utd.      0  -  0    Arsenal            


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                16   13    2    1   33   13   41   20 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         16    8    5    3   22   15   29    7 
   3 Aston Villa              16    8    5    3   18   13   29    5 
   4 Newcastle Utd.           16    8    4    4   31   15   28   16 
   5 Norwich City             15    7    6    2   24   14   27   10 
   6 Leeds Utd.               16    7    6    3   26   19   27    7 
   7 Arsenal                  16    7    6    3   15    8   27    7 
   8 Q.P.R.                   16    8    2    6   28   22   26    6 
   9 Liverpool                15    7    2    6   22   15   23    7 
  10 Tottenham Hotspur        16    5    6    5   21   17   21    4 
  11 Wimbledon                16    5    6    5   18   23   21   -5 
  12 Coventry City            16    4    8    4   17   19   20   -2 
  13 Everton                  16    6    2    8   18   22   20   -4 
  14 West Ham Utd.            16    5    5    6   11   16   20   -5 
  15 Ipswich Town             16    4    6    6   15   22   18   -7 
  16 Sheffield Wed.           16    3    8    5   24   24   17    0 
  17 Man. City                16    3    7    6   15   17   16   -2 
  18 Chelsea                  16    3    5    8   11   18   14   -7 
  19 Southampton              16    4    2   10   18   26   14   -8 
  20 Sheffield Utd.           16    2    6    8   17   28   12  -11 
  21 Oldham Athletic          16    2    5    9   10   27   11  -17 
  22 Swindon Town             16    1    6    9   14   35    9  -21 
13.455Round 17FORTY2::ROBERTSONWed Dec 01 1993 19:4145
	Sat 27th

       Arsenal            2  -  1    Newcastle Utd.     
       Coventry City      0  -  1    Man. Utd.          
       Ipswich Town       1  -  0    Blackburn Rovers   
       Leeds Utd.         3  -  0    Swindon Town       
       Man. City          1  -  3    Sheffield Wed.     
       Oldham Athletic    2  -  1    Norwich City       
       Q.P.R.             1  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Sheffield Utd.     1  -  0    Chelsea            
       Wimbledon          1  -  1    Everton

	Sun 28th
           
       Liverpool          2  -  1    Aston Villa        

	Mon 29th

       Southampton        0  -  2    West Ham Utd.      


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                17   14    2    1   34   13   44   21 
   2 Leeds Utd.               17    8    6    3   29   19   30   10 
   3 Arsenal                  17    8    6    3   17    9   30    8 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         17    8    5    4   22   16   29    6 
   5 Aston Villa              17    8    5    4   19   15   29    4 
   6 Newcastle Utd.           17    8    4    5   32   17   28   15 
   7 Norwich City             16    7    6    3   25   16   27    9 
   8 Q.P.R.                   17    8    3    6   29   23   27    6 
   9 Liverpool                16    8    2    6   24   16   26    8 
  10 West Ham Utd.            17    6    5    6   13   16   23   -3 
  11 Tottenham Hotspur        17    5    7    5   22   18   22    4 
  12 Wimbledon                17    5    7    5   19   24   22   -5 
  13 Everton                  17    6    3    8   19   23   21   -4 
  14 Ipswich Town             17    5    6    6   16   22   21   -6 
  15 Sheffield Wed.           17    4    8    5   27   25   20    2 
  16 Coventry City            17    4    8    5   17   20   20   -3 
  17 Man. City                17    3    7    7   16   20   16   -4 
  18 Sheffield Utd.           17    3    6    8   18   28   15  -10 
  19 Chelsea                  17    3    5    9   11   19   14   -8 
  20 Southampton              17    4    2   11   18   28   14  -10 
  21 Oldham Athletic          17    3    5    9   12   28   14  -16 
  22 Swindon Town             17    1    6   10   14   38    9  -24 
13.456Round 18ADDULT::ROBERTSONMon Dec 06 1993 14:4342
	Sat 4th Dec

       Coventry City      1  -  0    Arsenal            
       Everton            1  -  0    Southampton        
       Ipswich Town       0  -  0    Oldham Athletic    
       Leeds Utd.         3  -  2    Man. City          
       Man. Utd.          2  -  2    Norwich City       
       Q.P.R.             2  -  2    Aston Villa        
       Sheffield Wed.     3  -  1    Liverpool          
       Swindon Town       0  -  0    Sheffield Utd.     
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  2    Newcastle Utd.     
       Wimbledon          1  -  2    West Ham Utd.      

	Sun 5th Dec

       Blackburn Rovers   2  -  0    Chelsea            


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                18   14    3    1   36   15   45   21 
   2 Leeds Utd.               18    9    6    3   32   21   33   11 
   3 Blackburn Rovers         18    9    5    4   24   16   32    8 
   4 Newcastle Utd.           18    9    4    5   34   18   31   16 
   5 Arsenal                  18    8    6    4   17   10   30    7 
   6 Aston Villa              18    8    6    4   21   17   30    4 
   7 Norwich City             17    7    7    3   27   18   28    9 
   8 Q.P.R.                   18    8    4    6   31   25   28    6 
   9 Liverpool                17    8    2    7   25   19   26    6 
  10 West Ham Utd.            18    7    5    6   15   17   26   -2 
  11 Everton                  18    7    3    8   20   23   24   -3 
  12 Sheffield Wed.           18    5    8    5   30   26   23    4 
  13 Coventry City            18    5    8    5   18   20   23   -2 
  14 Tottenham Hotspur        18    5    7    6   23   20   22    3 
  15 Wimbledon                18    5    7    6   20   26   22   -6 
  16 Ipswich Town             18    5    7    6   16   22   22   -6 
  17 Man. City                18    3    7    8   18   23   16   -5 
  18 Sheffield Utd.           18    3    7    8   18   28   16  -10 
  19 Oldham Athletic          18    3    6    9   12   28   15  -16 
  20 Chelsea                  18    3    5   10   11   21   14  -10 
  21 Southampton              18    4    2   12   18   29   14  -11 
  22 Swindon Town             18    1    7   10   14   38   10  -24 
13.457BLKPUD::WATTERSONPIt's your loss digitalThu Dec 09 1993 00:4018
    
    Results...
    
    Man City 		1-0	Everton Att 20,000ish
    Griffiths
    
    Liverpool		3-2	Q.P.R.	Att 24,000ish
    Barnes,			Ferdinand
    Rush,			Barker
    Molby (pen)
    
    				Ferdinand & Barker both sent off

    
    Southampton		0-1	Ipswich
    				Kiwomya
    
    
13.458FAILTE::PAGESLost in ScotlandThu Dec 09 1993 15:296
    
    more
    
    West Ham	0-1	Leeds United
    			Wallace
    SteveP
13.459Round 20FORTY2::ROBERTSONMon Dec 13 1993 12:5641
       Aston Villa        0  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Chelsea            1  -  1    Ipswich Town       
       Liverpool          2  -  2    Swindon Town       
       Man. City          0  -  2    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Newcastle Utd.     1  -  1    Man. Utd.          
       Oldham Athletic    1  -  2    Blackburn Rovers   
       Sheffield Utd.     0  -  0    Everton            
       Southampton        0  -  1    Q.P.R.             
       West Ham Utd.      3  -  2    Coventry City      
       Arsenal            1  -  0    Sheffield Wed.     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                20   15    4    1   40   16   49   24 
   2 Leeds Utd.               19   10    6    3   33   21   36   12 
   3 Blackburn Rovers         19   10    5    4   26   17   35    9 
   4 Arsenal                  20    9    7    4   19   11   34    8 
   5 Newcastle Utd.           19    9    5    5   35   19   32   16 
   6 Q.P.R.                   20    9    4    7   34   28   31    6 
   7 Aston Villa              20    8    7    5   23   20   31    3 
   8 Liverpool                19    9    3    7   30   23   30    7 
   9 West Ham Utd.            20    8    5    7   18   20   29   -2 
  10 Norwich City             17    7    7    3   27   18   28    9 
  11 Tottenham Hotspur        20    6    8    6   26   21   26    5 
  12 Ipswich Town             20    6    8    6   18   23   26   -5 
  13 Everton                  20    7    4    9   20   24   25   -4 
  14 Wimbledon                19    6    7    6   21   26   25   -5 
  15 Sheffield Wed.           20    5    9    6   32   29   24    3 
  16 Coventry City            19    5    8    6   20   23   23   -3 
  17 Man. City                20    4    7    9   19   25   19   -6 
  18 Oldham Athletic          20    4    6   10   15   31   18  -16 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           20    3    8    9   18   31   17  -13 
  20 Chelsea                  19    3    6   10   12   22   15  -10 
  21 Southampton              20    4    2   14   18   31   14  -13 
  22 Swindon Town             20    1    8   11   17   42   11  -25 


Tonight

Norwich City v Leeds Utd
13.460Last nightFORTY2::ROBERTSONTue Dec 14 1993 12:4115
       Norwich City       2  -  1    Leeds Utd.         


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                20   15    4    1   40   16   49   24 
   2 Leeds Utd.               20   10    6    4   34   23   36   11 
   3 Blackburn Rovers         19   10    5    4   26   17   35    9 
   4 Arsenal                  20    9    7    4   19   11   34    8 
   5 Newcastle Utd.           19    9    5    5   35   19   32   16 
   6 Norwich City             18    8    7    3   29   19   31   10 
   7 Q.P.R.                   20    9    4    7   34   28   31    6 
   8 Aston Villa              20    8    7    5   23   20   31    3 
   9 Liverpool                19    9    3    7   30   23   30    7 
  10 West Ham Utd.            20    8    5    7   18   20   29   -2 
13.461FORTY2::ROBERTSONMon Dec 20 1993 13:5941
	Sat 18th

       Blackburn Rovers   2  -  0    Man. City          
       Coventry City      1  -  1    Oldham Athletic    
       Everton            0  -  2    Newcastle Utd.     
       Ipswich Town       2  -  1    Norwich City       
       Leeds Utd.         2  -  1    Arsenal            
       Sheffield Wed.     5  -  0    West Ham Utd.      
       Swindon Town       2  -  1    Southampton        
       Tottenham Hotspur  3  -  3    Liverpool          
       Wimbledon          2  -  0    Sheffield Utd.     

	Sun 19th

       Man. Utd.          3  -  1    Aston Villa        


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                21   16    4    1   43   17   52   26 
   2 Leeds Utd.               21   11    6    4   36   24   39   12 
   3 Blackburn Rovers         20   11    5    4   28   17   38   11 
   4 Newcastle Utd.           20   10    5    5   37   19   35   18 
   5 Arsenal                  21    9    7    5   20   13   34    7 
   6 Norwich City             19    8    7    4   30   21   31    9 
   7 Liverpool                20    9    4    7   33   26   31    7 
   8 Q.P.R.                   20    9    4    7   34   28   31    6 
   9 Aston Villa              21    8    7    6   24   23   31    1 
  10 Ipswich Town             21    7    8    6   20   24   29   -4 
  11 West Ham Utd.            21    8    5    8   18   25   29   -7 
  12 Wimbledon                20    7    7    6   23   26   28   -3 
  13 Sheffield Wed.           21    6    9    6   37   29   27    8 
  14 Tottenham Hotspur        21    6    9    6   29   24   27    5 
  15 Everton                  21    7    4   10   20   26   25   -6 
  16 Coventry City            20    5    9    6   21   24   24   -3 
  17 Man. City                21    4    7   10   19   27   19   -8 
  18 Oldham Athletic          21    4    7   10   16   32   19  -16 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           21    3    8   10   18   33   17  -15 
  20 Chelsea                  19    3    6   10   12   22   15  -10 
  21 Southampton              21    4    2   15   19   33   14  -14 
  22 Swindon Town             21    2    8   11   19   43   14  -24 
13.462FORTY2::ROBERTSONTue Jan 04 1994 15:5944
	Wed 22nd Dec 1993

       Newcastle Utd.     1  -  1    Leeds Utd.         

	Sun 26th Dec

       Man. Utd.          1  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   
       Sheffield Utd.     0  -  0    Liverpool          
       Wimbledon          3  -  1    Coventry City      

	Mon 27th Dec

       Everton            0  -  2    Sheffield Wed.     
       Ipswich Town       1  -  1    West Ham Utd.      
       Q.P.R.             2  -  0    Oldham Athletic    
       Southampton        3  -  1    Chelsea            
       Swindon Town       0  -  4    Arsenal            
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  3    Norwich City       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                22   16    5    1   44   18   53   26 
   2 Leeds Utd.               22   11    7    4   37   25   40   12 
   3 Blackburn Rovers         21   11    6    4   29   18   39   11 
   4 Arsenal                  22   10    7    5   24   13   37   11 
   5 Newcastle Utd.           21   10    6    5   38   20   36   18 
   6 Norwich City             20    9    7    4   33   22   34   11 
   7 Q.P.R.                   21   10    4    7   36   28   34    8 
   8 Liverpool                21    9    5    7   33   26   32    7 
   9 Aston Villa              21    8    7    6   24   23   31    1 
  10 Wimbledon                21    8    7    6   26   27   31   -1 
  11 Sheffield Wed.           22    7    9    6   39   29   30   10 
  12 Ipswich Town             22    7    9    6   21   25   30   -4 
  13 West Ham Utd.            22    8    6    8   19   26   30   -7 
  14 Tottenham Hotspur        22    6    9    7   30   27   27    3 
  15 Everton                  22    7    4   11   20   28   25   -8 
  16 Coventry City            21    5    9    7   22   27   24   -5 
  17 Man. City                21    4    7   10   19   27   19   -8 
  18 Oldham Athletic          22    4    7   11   16   34   19  -18 
  19 Sheffield Utd.           22    3    9   10   18   33   18  -15 
  20 Southampton              22    5    2   15   22   34   17  -12 
  21 Chelsea                  20    3    6   11   13   25   15  -12 
  22 Swindon Town             22    2    8   12   19   47   14  -28 
13.463FORTY2::ROBERTSONTue Jan 04 1994 16:0041
	Tues 28th Dec 1993

       Chelsea            1  -  0    Newcastle Utd.     
       Liverpool          1  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Man. City          1  -  1    Southampton        
       West Ham Utd.      1  -  3    Tottenham Hotspur

	Wed 29th Dec  

       Arsenal            3  -  0    Sheffield Utd.     
       Blackburn Rovers   2  -  0    Everton            
       Leeds Utd.         1  -  1    Q.P.R.             
       Norwich City       1  -  2    Aston Villa        
       Oldham Athletic    2  -  5    Man. Utd.          
       Sheffield Wed.     3  -  3    Swindon Town       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                23   17    5    1   49   20   56   29 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         22   12    6    4   31   18   42   13 
   3 Leeds Utd.               23   11    8    4   38   26   41   12 
   4 Arsenal                  23   11    7    5   27   13   40   14 
   5 Newcastle Utd.           22   10    6    6   38   21   36   17 
   6 Q.P.R.                   22   10    5    7   37   29   35    8 
   7 Norwich City             21    9    7    5   34   24   34   10 
   8 Aston Villa              22    9    7    6   26   24   34    2 
   9 Liverpool                22    9    6    7   34   27   33    7 
  10 Wimbledon                22    8    8    6   27   28   32   -1 
  11 Sheffield Wed.           23    7   10    6   42   32   31   10 
  12 Tottenham Hotspur        23    7    9    7   33   28   30    5 
  13 Ipswich Town             22    7    9    6   21   25   30   -4 
  14 West Ham Utd.            23    8    6    9   20   29   30   -9 
  15 Everton                  23    7    4   12   20   30   25  -10 
  16 Coventry City            21    5    9    7   22   27   24   -5 
  17 Man. City                22    4    8   10   20   28   20   -8 
  18 Oldham Athletic          23    4    7   12   18   39   19  -21 
  19 Chelsea                  21    4    6   11   14   25   18  -11 
  20 Southampton              23    5    3   15   23   35   18  -12 
  21 Sheffield Utd.           23    3    9   11   18   36   18  -18 
  22 Swindon Town             23    2    9   12   22   50   15  -28 
13.464FORTY2::ROBERTSONTue Jan 04 1994 16:0139
	Sat 1st Jan 1994

       Aston Villa        0  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   
       Everton            0  -  1    West Ham Utd.      
       Ipswich Town       1  -  2    Liverpool          
       Man. Utd.          0  -  0    Leeds Utd.         
       Newcastle Utd.     2  -  0    Man. City          
       Q.P.R.             1  -  2    Sheffield Wed.     
       Sheffield Utd.     2  -  1    Oldham Athletic    
       Southampton        0  -  1    Norwich City       
       Swindon Town       1  -  3    Chelsea            
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  2    Coventry City      
       Wimbledon          0  -  3    Arsenal            


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                24   17    6    1   49   20   57   29 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         23   13    6    4   32   18   45   14 
   3 Arsenal                  24   12    7    5   30   13   43   17 
   4 Leeds Utd.               24   11    9    4   38   26   42   12 
   5 Newcastle Utd.           23   11    6    6   40   21   39   19 
   6 Norwich City             22   10    7    5   35   24   37   11 
   7 Liverpool                23   10    6    7   36   28   36    8 
   8 Q.P.R.                   23   10    5    8   38   31   35    7 
   9 Sheffield Wed.           24    8   10    6   44   33   34   11 
  10 Aston Villa              23    9    7    7   26   25   34    1 
  11 West Ham Utd.            24    9    6    9   21   29   33   -8 
  12 Wimbledon                23    8    8    7   27   31   32   -4 
  13 Tottenham Hotspur        24    7    9    8   34   30   30    4 
  14 Ipswich Town             23    7    9    7   22   27   30   -5 
  15 Coventry City            22    6    9    7   24   28   27   -4 
  16 Everton                  24    7    4   13   20   31   25  -11 
  17 Chelsea                  22    5    6   11   17   26   21   -9 
  18 Sheffield Utd.           24    4    9   11   20   37   21  -17 
  19 Man. City                23    4    8   11   20   30   20  -10 
  20 Oldham Athletic          24    4    7   13   19   41   19  -22 
  21 Southampton              24    5    3   16   23   36   18  -13 
  22 Swindon Town             24    2    9   13   23   53   15  -30 
13.465Up to dateFORTY2::ROBERTSONTue Jan 04 1994 16:0340
	Mon 3rd Jan 1994

       Arsenal            0  -  0    Q.P.R.             
       Chelsea            4  -  2    Everton            
       Coventry City      1  -  1    Swindon Town       
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur  
       West Ham Utd.      0  -  0    Sheffield Utd.     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                24   17    6    1   49   20   57   29 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         23   13    6    4   32   18   45   14 
   3 Arsenal                  25   12    8    5   30   13   44   17 
   4 Leeds Utd.               24   11    9    4   38   26   42   12 
   5 Newcastle Utd.           23   11    6    6   40   21   39   19 
   6 Sheffield Wed.           25    9   10    6   45   33   37   12 
   7 Norwich City             22   10    7    5   35   24   37   11 
   8 Liverpool                23   10    6    7   36   28   36    8 
   9 Q.P.R.                   24   10    6    8   38   31   36    7 
  10 Aston Villa              23    9    7    7   26   25   34    1 
  11 West Ham Utd.            25    9    7    9   21   29   34   -8 
  12 Wimbledon                23    8    8    7   27   31   32   -4 
  13 Tottenham Hotspur        25    7    9    9   34   31   30    3 
  14 Ipswich Town             23    7    9    7   22   27   30   -5 
  15 Coventry City            23    6   10    7   25   29   28   -4 
  16 Everton                  25    7    4   14   22   35   25  -13 
  17 Chelsea                  23    6    6   11   21   28   24   -7 
  18 Sheffield Utd.           25    4   10   11   20   37   22  -17 
  19 Man. City                23    4    8   11   20   30   20  -10 
  20 Oldham Athletic          24    4    7   13   19   41   19  -22 
  21 Southampton              24    5    3   16   23   36   18  -13 
  22 Swindon Town             25    2   10   13   24   54   16  -30 


	Tonight

Liverpool  v Man Utd
Norwich    v Newcastle
Oldham     v Southampton
13.466Round 25 ( Completed )ADDULT::ROBERTSONWed Jan 05 1994 14:4329
       Liverpool          3  -  3    Man. Utd.          
       Norwich City       1  -  2    Newcastle Utd.     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                25   17    7    1   52   23   58   29 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         23   13    6    4   32   18   45   14 
   3 Arsenal                  25   12    8    5   30   13   44   17 
   4 Newcastle Utd.           24   12    6    6   42   22   42   20 
   5 Leeds Utd.               24   11    9    4   38   26   42   12 
   6 Sheffield Wed.           25    9   10    6   45   33   37   12 
   7 Norwich City             23   10    7    6   36   26   37   10 
   8 Liverpool                24   10    7    7   39   31   37    8 
   9 Q.P.R.                   24   10    6    8   38   31   36    7 
  10 Aston Villa              23    9    7    7   26   25   34    1 
  11 West Ham Utd.            25    9    7    9   21   29   34   -8 
  12 Wimbledon                23    8    8    7   27   31   32   -4 
  13 Tottenham Hotspur        25    7    9    9   34   31   30    3 
  14 Ipswich Town             23    7    9    7   22   27   30   -5 
  15 Coventry City            23    6   10    7   25   29   28   -4 
  16 Everton                  25    7    4   14   22   35   25  -13 
  17 Chelsea                  23    6    6   11   21   28   24   -7 
  18 Sheffield Utd.           25    4   10   11   20   37   22  -17 
  19 Man. City                23    4    8   11   20   30   20  -10 
  20 Oldham Athletic          24    4    7   13   19   41   19  -22 
  21 Southampton              24    5    3   16   23   36   18  -13 
  22 Swindon Town             25    2   10   13   24   54   16  -30 

13.467Round 26ADDULT::ROBERTSONMon Jan 17 1994 14:1840
       Aston Villa        3  -  1    West Ham Utd.      
       Everton            6  -  2    Swindon Town       
       Leeds Utd.         0  -  0    Ipswich Town       
       Man. City          0  -  0    Arsenal            
       Norwich City       1  -  1    Chelsea            
       Oldham Athletic    0  -  3    Liverpool          
       Sheffield Utd.     1  -  2    Blackburn Rovers   
       Southampton        1  -  0    Coventry City      
       Tottenham Hotspur  0  -  1    Man. Utd.          
       Wimbledon          2  -  1    Sheffield Wed.

	Sun
     
       Q.P.R.             1  -  2    Newcastle Utd.     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                26   18    7    1   53   23   61   30 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         24   14    6    4   34   19   48   15 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           25   13    6    6   44   23   45   21 
   4 Arsenal                  26   12    9    5   30   13   45   17 
   5 Leeds Utd.               25   11   10    4   38   26   43   12 
   6 Liverpool                25   11    7    7   42   31   40   11 
   7 Norwich City             24   10    8    6   37   27   38   10 
   8 Sheffield Wed.           26    9   10    7   46   35   37   11 
   9 Aston Villa              24   10    7    7   29   26   37    3 
  10 Q.P.R.                   25   10    6    9   39   33   36    6 
  11 Wimbledon                24    9    8    7   29   32   35   -3 
  12 West Ham Utd.            26    9    7   10   22   32   34  -10 
  13 Ipswich Town             24    7   10    7   22   27   31   -5 
  14 Tottenham Hotspur        26    7    9   10   34   32   30    2 
  15 Coventry City            24    6   10    8   25   30   28   -5 
  16 Everton                  26    8    4   14   28   37   28   -9 
  17 Chelsea                  24    6    7   11   22   29   25   -7 
  18 Sheffield Utd.           26    4   10   12   21   39   22  -18 
  19 Man. City                24    4    9   11   20   30   21  -10 
  20 Southampton              25    6    3   16   24   36   21  -12 
  21 Oldham Athletic          25    4    7   14   19   44   19  -25 
  22 Swindon Town             26    2   10   14   26   60   16  -34 
13.468Round 27KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJShy Ann (Indian Virgin)Fri Feb 04 1994 13:1439
    
            RE: 57.124
    
            There you go Steve.
    
            As of Febuary 4th
    
    
    
    
                            FA CARLING PREMIERSHIP
                            ======================
    
    
            Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD
    
       1 Man. Utd.                27   19    7    1   54   23   64   31
       2 Blackburn Rovers         25   15    6    4   36   20   51   16
       3 Arsenal                  27   12   10    5   31   14   46   17
       4 Newcastle Utd.           26   13    6    7   45   25   45   20
       5 Liverpool                26   12    7    7   44   32   43   12
       6 Leeds Utd.               26   11   10    5   39   28   43   11
       7 Sheffield Wed.           27   10   10    7   49   36   40   13
       8 Norwich City             25   10    9    6   40   30   39   10
       9 Q.P.R.                   26   11    6    9   40   33   39    7
      10 Aston Villa              25   10    8    7   30   27   38    3
      11 West Ham Utd.            27    9    8   10   25   35   35  -10
      12 Coventry City            26    8   10    8   27   29   34   -2
      13 Wimbledon                25    8    9    8   27   33   33   -6
      14 Ipswich Town             26    7   11    8   22   28   32   -6
      15 Tottenham Hotspur        27    7    9   11   35   34   30    1
      16 Everton                  27    8    4   15   28   38   28  -10
      17 Chelsea                  25    6    8   11   23   30   26   -7
      18 Southampton              26    7    3   16   26   37   24  -11
      19 Sheffield Utd.           27    4   10   13   22   42   22  -20
      20 Man. City                25    4    9   12   21   32   21  -11
      21 Oldham Athletic          26    4    8   14   20   45   20  -25
      22 Swindon Town             27    3   10   14   28   61   19  -33
    
13.469Missing ScoresADDULT::ROBERTSONSome days are bouncers that won't let you inFri Feb 04 1994 15:3823
	22nd Jan

       Arsenal            1  -  1    Oldham Athletic    
       Chelsea            1  -  1    Aston Villa        
       Coventry City      0  -  1    Q.P.R.             
       Ipswich Town       0  -  0    Wimbledon          
       Liverpool          2  -  1    Man. City          
       Man. Utd.          1  -  0    Everton            
       Newcastle Utd.     1  -  2    Southampton        
       Sheffield Wed.     3  -  1    Sheffield Utd.     
       Swindon Town       2  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  

	23rd Jan

       Blackburn Rovers   2  -  1    Leeds Utd.         

	24th Jan

       West Ham Utd.      3  -  3    Norwich City       

	1st Feb

       Coventry City      1  -  0    Ipswich Town
13.470Round 28ADDULT::ROBERTSONSome days are bouncers that won't let you inMon Feb 07 1994 17:1143
       Blackburn Rovers   3  -  0    Wimbledon          
       Everton            4  -  2    Chelsea            
       Man. City          2  -  1    Ipswich Town       
       Norwich City       2  -  2    Liverpool          
       Oldham Athletic    2  -  1    Southampton        
       Q.P.R.             2  -  3    Man. Utd.          
       Swindon Town       3  -  1    Coventry City      
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  3    Sheffield Wed.     
       Aston Villa        1  -  0    Leeds Utd.         


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                28   20    7    1   57   25   67   32 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         26   16    6    4   39   20   54   19 
   3 Arsenal                  27   12   10    5   31   14   46   17 
   4 Newcastle Utd.           26   13    6    7   45   25   45   20 
   5 Liverpool                27   12    8    7   46   34   44   12 
   6 Sheffield Wed.           28   11   10    7   52   37   43   15 
   7 Leeds Utd.               27   11   10    6   39   29   43   10 
   8 Aston Villa              26   11    8    7   31   27   41    4 
   9 Norwich City             26   10   10    6   42   32   40   10 
  10 Q.P.R.                   27   11    6   10   42   36   39    6 
  11 West Ham Utd.            27    9    8   10   25   35   35  -10 
  12 Wimbledon                25    8    9    8   26   34   33   -8 
  13 Ipswich Town             27    7   11    9   23   30   32   -7 
  14 Coventry City            26    7   10    9   26   31   31   -5 
  15 Everton                  28    9    4   15   32   40   31   -8 
  16 Tottenham Hotspur        28    7    9   12   36   37   30   -1 
  17 Chelsea                  26    6    8   12   25   34   26   -9 
  18 Man. City                26    5    9   12   23   33   24  -10 
  19 Southampton              27    7    3   17   27   39   24  -12 
  20 Oldham Athletic          27    5    8   14   22   46   23  -24 
  21 Sheffield Utd.           27    4   10   13   22   42   22  -20 
  22 Swindon Town             28    4   10   14   31   62   22  -31 


Can someone please confirm the score between Wimbledon & Coventry over Xmas.

I thought it was 3-1 to Wimbledon, but according to the tables everywhere else,
it would appear the score was 2-1 Coventry. see .468

Al
13.471Round 29KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJShy Ann (Indian Virgin)Mon Feb 21 1994 17:3549
13.472ADDULT::ROBERTSONSome days are bouncers that won't let you inMon Feb 21 1994 18:0032
Forgot:

       Everton            1  -  1    Arsenal            
       Leeds Utd.         2  -  0    Liverpool          
       Swindon Town       3  -  3    Norwich City       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD


   1 Man. Utd.                28   20    7    1   57   25   67   32 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         28   18    6    4   42   20   60   22 
   3 Arsenal                  29   12   12    5   33   16   48   17 
   4 Leeds Utd.               28   12   10    6   41   29   46   12 
   5 Newcastle Utd.           28   13    6    9   47   30   45   17 
   6 Aston Villa              27   12    8    7   36   27   44    9 
   7 Liverpool                29   12    8    9   48   40   44    8 
   8 Sheffield Wed.           28   11   10    7   52   37   43   15 
   9 Norwich City             28   10   12    6   46   36   42   10 
  10 Q.P.R.                   27   11    6   10   42   36   39    6 
  11 Coventry City            29    9   11    9   32   32   38    0 
  12 Wimbledon                27    9    9    9   31   38   36   -7 
  13 West Ham Utd.            28    9    9   10   25   35   36  -10 
  14 Ipswich Town             28    7   12    9   23   30   33   -7 
  15 Everton                  30    9    6   15   33   41   33   -8 
  16 Tottenham Hotspur        29    7    9   13   36   39   30   -3 
  17 Southampton              28    8    3   17   31   41   27  -10 
  18 Chelsea                  27    6    8   13   26   36   26  -10 
  19 Oldham Athletic          28    6    8   14   24   47   26  -23 
  20 Man. City                28    5   10   13   23   37   25  -14 
  21 Sheffield Utd.           28    4   11   13   22   42   23  -20 
  22 Swindon Town             30    4   11   15   34   70   23  -36 
13.473Round 29KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJShy Ann (Indian Virgin)Wed Feb 23 1994 15:5735
    Update:
    
            22nd Feb.  Norwich     2-2 Blackburn
            22nd Feb.  Aston Villa 0-0 Man City
            22nd Feb.  Ipswich     3-2 Sheffield Utd
    
    
                                FA CARLING PREMIERSHIP
                                ======================
    
            Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts      GD
    
     1. Manchester United         28  20    7    1   57   25    67     +32
     2. Blackburn Rovers          29  18    7    4   44   22    61     +22
     3. Arsenal                   28  12   11    5   32   15    47     +17
     4. Newcastle United          28  13    6    9   47   30    45     +17
     5. Aston Villa               28  12    9    7   36   27    45      +9
     6. Liverpool                 28  12    8    8   48   38    44     +10
     7. Sheffield Wednesday       28  11   10    7   52   37    43     +15
     8. Leeds United              27  11   10    6   39   29    43     +10
     9. Norwich City              28  10   12    6   45   35    42     +10
    10. Queen's Park Rangers      27  11    6   10   42   36    39      +6
    11. Coventry City             29   9   11    9   32   32    38       0
    12. Ipswich Town              29   8   12    9   26   32    36      -6
    13. Wimbledon                 27   9    9    9   31   38    36      -7
    14. West Ham United           28   9    9   10   25   35    36     -10
    15. Everton                   29   9    5   15   32   40    32      -8
    16. Tottenham Hotspur         29   7    9   13   36   39    30      -3
    17. Southampton               28   8    3   17   31   41    27     -10
    18. Chelsea                   27   6    8   13   26   36    26     -10
    19. Manchester City           29   5   11   13   23   37    26     -14
    20. Oldham Athletic           28   6    8   14   24   47    26     -23
    21. Sheffield United          29   4   11   14   24   45    23     -21
    22. Swindon Town              29   4   10   15   31   67    22     -36
    
13.474FORTY2::ASHMail Interchange Group, ReadingWed Feb 23 1994 16:064
Much as I like .-1, I think you'll have to give Leeds (at least) another 3 
points and move them up to 4th. Did you miss the results from (about -.2)?

g
13.475ApologiesKERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJShy Ann (Indian Virgin)Wed Feb 23 1994 17:3729
    
                                FA CARLING PREMIERSHIP
                                ======================
    
            Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts      GD
    
     1. Manchester United         28  20    7    1   57   25    67     +32
     2. Blackburn Rovers          29  18    7    4   44   22    61     +22
     3. Arsenal                   29  12   12    5   33   16    48     +17
     4. Leeds United              28  12   10    6   41   29    46     +12
     5. Newcastle United          28  13    6    9   47   30    45     +17
     6. Aston Villa               28  12    9    7   36   27    45      +9
     7. Liverpool                 29  12    8    9   48   40    44      +8
     8. Sheffield Wednesday       28  11   10    7   52   37    43     +15
     9. Norwich City              29  10   13    6   48   38    43     +10
    10. Queen's Park Rangers      27  11    6   10   42   36    39      +6
    11. Coventry City             29   9   11    9   32   32    38       0
    12. Ipswich Town              29   8   12    9   26   32    36      -6
    13. Wimbledon                 27   9    9    9   31   38    36      -7
    14. West Ham United           28   9    9   10   25   35    36     -10
    15. Everton                   30   9    6   15   33   41    33      -8
    16. Tottenham Hotspur         29   7    9   13   36   39    30      -3
    17. Southampton               28   8    3   17   31   41    27     -10
    18. Chelsea                   27   6    8   13   26   36    26     -10
    19. Manchester City           29   5   11   13   23   37    26     -14
    20. Oldham Athletic           28   6    8   14   24   47    26     -23
    21. Sheffield United          29   4   11   14   24   45    23     -21
    22. Swindon Town              30   4   11   15   34   70    23     -36
    
13.476Round 31 - For Swindon at least :-)ADDULT::ROBERTSONSome days are bouncers that won't let you inMon Feb 28 1994 14:4933
       Arsenal            1  -  0    Blackburn Rovers   
       Liverpool          1  -  0    Coventry City      
       Man. City          2  -  1    Swindon Town       
       Norwich City       1  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Southampton        1  -  0    Wimbledon          
       West Ham Utd.      2  -  2    Man. Utd.          
       Chelsea            4  -  3    Tottenham Hotspur  


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                29   20    8    1   59   27   68   32 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         30   18    7    5   44   23   61   21 
   3 Arsenal                  30   13   12    5   34   16   51   18 
   4 Liverpool                30   13    8    9   49   40   47    9 
   5 Leeds Utd.               28   12   10    6   41   29   46   12 
   6 Newcastle Utd.           28   13    6    9   47   30   45   17 
   7 Aston Villa              28   12    9    7   36   27   45    9 
   8 Sheffield Wed.           29   11   11    7   53   38   44   15 
   9 Norwich City             30   10   14    6   49   39   44   10 
  10 Q.P.R.                   27   11    6   10   42   36   39    6 
  11 Coventry City            30    9   11   10   32   33   38   -1 
  12 West Ham Utd.            29    9   10   10   27   37   37  -10 
  13 Ipswich Town             29    8   12    9   26   32   36   -6 
  14 Wimbledon                28    9    9   10   31   39   36   -8 
  15 Everton                  30    9    6   15   33   41   33   -8 
  16 Tottenham Hotspur        30    7    9   14   39   43   30   -4 
  17 Southampton              29    9    3   17   32   41   30   -9 
  18 Chelsea                  28    7    8   13   30   39   29   -9 
  19 Man. City                30    6   11   13   25   38   29  -13 
  20 Oldham Athletic          28    6    8   14   24   47   26  -23 
  21 Sheffield Utd.           29    4   11   14   24   45   23  -21 
  22 Swindon Town             31    4   11   16   35   72   23  -37 
13.477Round 29 for NewcastleFORTY2::ASHMail Interchange Group, ReadingMon Feb 28 1994 18:566
Hi Al,

How about Newcastle v Coventry result from last Wed? Seeing us below Liverpol 
and Leeds did my heart no good at all!

grahame
13.478ADDULT::ROBERTSONSome days are bouncers that won't let you inMon Feb 28 1994 19:319
I was hoping you wouldn't notice Grahame.

And what's more surprising is that is't still only Monday ;-)

Updated table will be entered shortly.

4-0 to Coventry wasn't it??? :-)

Al
13.479Happy Grahame ??ADDULT::ROBERTSONSome days are bouncers that won't let you inMon Feb 28 1994 19:3429
       Wed 23rd Feb.

	Newcastle Utd.     4  -  0    Coventry City      


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                29   20    8    1   59   27   68   32 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         30   18    7    5   44   23   61   21 
   3 Arsenal                  30   13   12    5   34   16   51   18 
   4 Newcastle Utd.           29   14    6    9   51   30   48   21 
   5 Liverpool                30   13    8    9   49   40   47    9 
   6 Leeds Utd.               28   12   10    6   41   29   46   12 
   7 Aston Villa              28   12    9    7   36   27   45    9 
   8 Sheffield Wed.           29   11   11    7   53   38   44   15 
   9 Norwich City             30   10   14    6   49   39   44   10 
  10 Q.P.R.                   27   11    6   10   42   36   39    6 
  11 Coventry City            31    9   11   11   32   37   38   -5 
  12 West Ham Utd.            29    9   10   10   27   37   37  -10 
  13 Ipswich Town             29    8   12    9   26   32   36   -6 
  14 Wimbledon                28    9    9   10   31   39   36   -8 
  15 Everton                  30    9    6   15   33   41   33   -8 
  16 Tottenham Hotspur        30    7    9   14   39   43   30   -4 
  17 Southampton              29    9    3   17   32   41   30   -9 
  18 Chelsea                  28    7    8   13   30   39   29   -9 
  19 Man. City                30    6   11   13   25   38   29  -13 
  20 Oldham Athletic          28    6    8   14   24   47   26  -23 
  21 Sheffield Utd.           29    4   11   14   24   45   23  -21 
  22 Swindon Town             31    4   11   16   35   72   23  -37 
13.480BERN01::GOODEJMr DragonTue Mar 01 1994 14:146
    
    Anyone interested in listing the top 10 scorers in the Premier League
    this season. I think it would be interesting to compare with other
    leagues (eg. German where the top scorer has 16 goals).
    
    JBG
13.481Golden BootKERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJShy Ann (Indian Virgin)Tue Mar 01 1994 14:428
13.482Last nights result + Leading scorersADDULT::ROBERTSONSome days are bouncers that won't let you inTue Mar 01 1994 14:5055
       Oldham Athletic    1  -  1    Leeds Utd.         


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                29   20    8    1   59   27   68   32 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         30   18    7    5   44   23   61   21 
   3 Arsenal                  30   13   12    5   34   16   51   18 
   4 Newcastle Utd.           29   14    6    9   51   30   48   21 
   5 Leeds Utd.               29   12   11    6   42   30   47   12 
   6 Liverpool                30   13    8    9   49   40   47    9 
   7 Aston Villa              28   12    9    7   36   27   45    9 
   8 Sheffield Wed.           29   11   11    7   53   38   44   15 
   9 Norwich City             30   10   14    6   49   39   44   10 
  10 Q.P.R.                   27   11    6   10   42   36   39    6 
  11 Coventry City            31    9   11   11   32   37   38   -5 
  12 West Ham Utd.            29    9   10   10   27   37   37  -10 
  13 Ipswich Town             29    8   12    9   26   32   36   -6 
  14 Wimbledon                28    9    9   10   31   39   36   -8 
  15 Everton                  30    9    6   15   33   41   33   -8 
  16 Tottenham Hotspur        30    7    9   14   39   43   30   -4 
  17 Southampton              29    9    3   17   32   41   30   -9 
  18 Chelsea                  28    7    8   13   30   39   29   -9 
  19 Man. City                30    6   11   13   25   38   29  -13 
  20 Oldham Athletic          29    6    9   14   25   48   27  -23 
  21 Sheffield Utd.           29    4   11   14   24   45   23  -21 
  22 Swindon Town             31    4   11   16   35   72   23  -37 


Scorers with 15 goals or more (League only) taken from Sunday's Observer:

Prem

Cole		26	Newcastle
Shearer		25	Blackburn
Sutton		21	Norwich
Stein		17	Chelsea
Le Tissier	16	Southampton

FYI

Div 1

Armstrong	18	Crystal Palace
Furlong		15	Watford

Div 2

Quinn		27	Reading
Bennett 	21	Wrexham

Div 3

Ellis		20	Preston North End
Carter		18	Bury
13.483Info needed on 2nd div. playersELIS::GEELENThu Mar 03 1994 17:2429
    Hi,
    
    On my PC I've got a 'new' Player Manager game called :
    Championship Manager '93 (CM '93).
    
    In my first game I chose to manager Man.utd. and I became champion after
    2 seasons without much difficulties.
    
    Now I'm trying to promote to the premier league with the second division 
    team Bristol City (as fast as possible).
    
    Therefore I want to buy a few good player, from other second div. teams.
    But my problem is that I don't know which players are good in this
    division.
    
    Can anyone tell me some names and the team their playing in. 
    (season 1993)
    I need :
    Goalies
    Defenders
    Midfielders
    Strikers
    
    (I don't want to start a discussion of which team is the best in
    England, I only want some names of good player in the second division
    for my PC game.) 
    
    Thanks, Jeroen
    
13.484Stick the rest of the Reading team in too.KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJShy Ann (Indian Virgin)Thu Mar 03 1994 17:335
13.485Wrong division?FORTY2::ASHMail Interchange Group, ReadingThu Mar 03 1994 19:595
I might be missing a point here, but aren't Bristol City in Division 1? And 
therefore you want Div 1 players? If so, I imagine you just have to read the 
Crystal Palace and West Brom notes to get everyone you need . . .!

g
13.486NoELIS::GEELENFri Mar 04 1994 10:495
    > aren't Bristol City in Division 1.
    
    Perhaps in real live they are, but not in my PC-game !
    
    J.
13.487IRNBRU::HOWARDFri Mar 04 1994 12:131
    if you wait a few monthe you could get some good Spurs players....8-)
13.488Weekend's resultsADDULT::ROBERTSONSome days are bouncers that won't let you inMon Mar 14 1994 17:2438
	Sat 12th

       Aston Villa        0  -  1    Ipswich Town       
       Man. City          0  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Newcastle Utd.     7  -  1    Swindon Town       
       Norwich City       3  -  4    Q.P.R.             
       Southampton        1  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     

	Sun 13th

       Sheffield Utd.     2  -  2    Leeds Utd.         
       Liverpool          2  -  1    Everton            


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                30   20    8    2   59   28   68   31 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         31   19    7    5   46   23   64   23 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           31   16    6    9   59   31   54   28 
   4 Arsenal                  31   14   12    5   39   17   54   22 
   5 Liverpool                32   14    8   10   51   43   50    8 
   6 Leeds Utd.               31   12   13    6   44   32   49   12 
   7 Aston Villa              31   13   10    8   38   29   49    9 
   8 Sheffield Wed.           31   11   12    8   54   40   45   14 
   9 Norwich City             32   10   14    8   53   46   44    7 
  10 Q.P.R.                   29   12    7   10   47   40   43    7 
  11 Wimbledon                30   11    9   10   35   40   42   -5 
  12 Ipswich Town             31    9   12   10   28   37   39   -9 
  13 Coventry City            32    9   11   12   32   38   38   -6 
  14 West Ham Utd.            30    9   11   10   28   38   38  -10 
  15 Everton                  32   10    6   16   36   44   36   -8 
  16 Tottenham Hotspur        32    7   11   14   42   46   32   -4 
  17 Chelsea                  29    8    8   13   31   39   32   -8 
  18 Southampton              31    9    5   17   33   42   32   -9 
  19 Man. City                32    6   12   14   26   40   30  -14 
  20 Oldham Athletic          30    6    9   15   26   50   27  -24 
  21 Sheffield Utd.           31    4   13   14   28   49   25  -21 
  22 Swindon Town             33    4   12   17   37   80   24  -43 
13.489CM '93CURRNT::SHAWTue Mar 15 1994 16:1810
	Jeroen,

	Re .483

	Within CM '93 buying good players does not guarantee that they will
	be efficient in your team. I have bought 7.5+ rated players who quickly 
	fall to 5.0 or so. I know the style and formation affects performance
	but I am intrigued as to how the ratings are calculated.

	Ray.
13.490fixtures for March 29th???GALVIA::SPAINsigned long gary();Tue Mar 15 1994 21:0715
    
    I'll be in London for a couple of days at the end of March.  I'd like
    to see a game on Tuesday evening March 29th.
    
    According to the fixtures it's a choice of
    
    Wimbledon v Blackburn (I'd rather watch football)
    Peterboro v Palace (if there's a train abck afterwards)
    Oxford v Birmingham (if there's a train abck afterwards)
    
    Are there any re-arranged fixtures scheduled for that date in the
    London area?  I'd also like to see a new ground which excludes most of
    the London clubs except Charlton, Millwall, Fulham and Barnet.
    
    Gary.
13.491on 29th March..TRUCKS::SANTnetwork partner exitedWed Mar 16 1994 13:174
    
    	Spurs v Wednesday?
    
    	Andy.
13.492Major dip in my teamELIS::GEELENWed Mar 16 1994 17:5137
	Re. .489

> Within CM '93 buying good players does not guarantee that they will
> be efficient in your team. I have bought 7.5+ rated players who quickly 
> fall to 5.0 or so. I know the style and formation affects performance
> but I am intrigued as to how the ratings are calculated.
        
	Ray,
           
	At the moment I'm managing Brighton and my team is on the fourth place.
	(I transferred during the season from Bristol C to Brighton).
	With only 8 matches to go chances are good for promotion.
	My team played about 20 matches with an average of 6.5, but now they
	are playing very bad (3.0 average).
	
	I don't know how this is possible, because I still play with almost the
	same players, and in the same formation.

	Which team are you managing and what style are they playing ?
	I play 4-4-2 Direct ball most of the time.
	I would like to play 4-2-4 with a support man :


                    10
             7             11
                     9 (Support) 	

                 6      8
	
              3    4    5   2

                     1

	But than I lose my games playing this formation, so I stick to 4-4-2 
 	for the moment.

	Jeroen..
13.493Weekend resultsADDULT::ROBERTSONSome days are bouncers that won't let you inMon Mar 21 1994 14:3141
       Aston Villa        1  -  2    Oldham Athletic    
       Leeds Utd.         1  -  0    Coventry City      
       Liverpool          2  -  1    Chelsea            
       Man. City          0  -  0    Sheffield Utd.     
       Q.P.R.             1  -  0    Wimbledon          
       Southampton        0  -  4    Arsenal            
       Swindon Town       2  -  2    Man. Utd.          
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  1    Ipswich Town       
       West Ham Utd.      2  -  4    Newcastle Utd.     
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  2    Blackburn Rovers   


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                32   21    9    2   66   30   72   36 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         32   20    7    5   48   24   67   24 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           32   17    6    9   63   33   57   30 
   4 Arsenal                  32   15   12    5   43   17   57   26 
   5 Leeds Utd.               33   14   13    6   47   32   55   15 
   6 Liverpool                33   15    8   10   53   44   53    9 
   7 Aston Villa              33   13   10   10   39   33   49    6 
   8 Q.P.R.                   31   13    8   10   49   41   47    8 
   9 Sheffield Wed.           33   11   12   10   55   47   45    8 
  10 Norwich City             32   10   14    8   53   46   44    7 
  11 Wimbledon                32   11    9   12   35   43   42   -8 
  12 Ipswich Town             32    9   13   10   29   38   40   -9 
  13 Coventry City            33    9   11   13   32   39   38   -7 
  14 West Ham Utd.            31    9   11   11   30   42   38  -12 
  15 Everton                  32   10    6   16   36   44   36   -8 
  16 Chelsea                  31    9    8   14   34   41   35   -7 
  17 Tottenham Hotspur        33    7   12   14   43   47   33   -4 
  18 Southampton              32    9    5   18   33   46   32  -13 
  19 Man. City                33    6   13   14   26   40   31  -14 
  20 Oldham Athletic          31    7    9   15   28   51   30  -23 
  21 Sheffield Utd.           33    4   15   14   29   50   27  -21 
  22 Swindon Town             34    4   13   17   39   82   25  -43 


Tonight

	Norwich City v Everton
13.494League UpdateKERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJShy Ann (Indian Virgin)Tue Mar 22 1994 12:2432
    
    22nd March '94; Norwich 3-0 Everton
    
            Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD
    
       1 Man. Utd.                32   21    9    2   66   30   72   36
       2 Blackburn Rovers         32   20    7    5   48   24   67   24
       3 Newcastle Utd.           32   17    6    9   63   33   57   30
       4 Arsenal                  32   15   12    5   43   17   57   26
       5 Leeds Utd.               33   14   13    6   47   32   55   15
       6 Liverpool                33   15    8   10   53   44   53    9
       7 Aston Villa              33   13   10   10   39   33   49    6
       8 Norwich City             33   11   14    8   56   46   47   10
       9 Q.P.R.                   31   13    8   10   49   41   47    8
      10 Sheffield Wed.           33   11   12   10   55   47   45    8
      11 Wimbledon                32   11    9   12   35   43   42   -8
      12 Ipswich Town             32    9   13   10   29   38   40   -9
      13 Coventry City            33    9   11   13   32   39   38   -7
      14 West Ham Utd.            31    9   11   11   30   42   38  -12
      15 Everton                  33   10    6   17   36   47   36  -11
      16 Chelsea                  31    9    8   14   34   41   35   -7
      17 Tottenham Hotspur        33    7   12   14   43   47   33   -4
      18 Southampton              32    9    5   18   33   46   32  -13
      19 Man. City                33    6   13   14   26   40   31  -14
      20 Oldham Athletic          31    7    9   15   28   51   30  -23
      21 Sheffield Utd.           33    4   15   14   29   50   27  -21
      22 Swindon Town             34    4   13   17   39   82   25  -43
    
    
    Tonight
    
            Arsenal v Man Utd
13.495UpdateKERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJShy Ann (Indian Virgin)Wed Mar 23 1994 11:5429
    
    
    23rd March '94; Arsenal 2-2 Man Utd
    
            Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD
    
       1 Man. Utd.                33   21   10    2   68   32   73   36
       2 Blackburn Rovers         32   20    7    5   48   24   67   24
       3 Arsenal                  33   15   13    5   45   19   58   26
       4 Newcastle Utd.           32   17    6    9   63   33   57   30
       5 Leeds Utd.               33   14   13    6   47   32   55   15
       6 Liverpool                33   15    8   10   53   44   53    9
       7 Aston Villa              33   13   10   10   39   33   49    6
       8 Norwich City             33   11   14    8   56   46   47   10
       9 Q.P.R.                   31   13    8   10   49   41   47    8
      10 Sheffield Wed.           33   11   12   10   55   47   45    8
      11 Wimbledon                32   11    9   12   35   43   42   -8
      12 Ipswich Town             32    9   13   10   29   38   40   -9
      13 Coventry City            33    9   11   13   32   39   38   -7
      14 West Ham Utd.            31    9   11   11   30   42   38  -12
      15 Everton                  33   10    6   17   36   47   36  -11
      16 Chelsea                  31    9    8   14   34   41   35   -7
      17 Tottenham Hotspur        33    7   12   14   43   47   33   -4
      18 Southampton              32    9    5   18   33   46   32  -13
      19 Man. City                33    6   13   14   26   40   31  -14
      20 Oldham Athletic          31    7    9   15   28   51   30  -23
      21 Sheffield Utd.           33    4   15   14   29   50   27  -21
      22 Swindon Town             34    4   13   17   39   82   25  -43
    
13.496UpdateKERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJShy Ann (Indian Virgin)Thu Mar 24 1994 12:0130
    
    
    24th March '94; Newcastle 2-0 Ipswich
    
            Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD
    
       1 Man. Utd.                33   21   10    2   68   32   73   36
       2 Blackburn Rovers         32   20    7    5   48   24   67   24
       3 Newcastle Utd.           33   18    6    9   65   33   60   32
       4 Arsenal                  33   15   13    5   45   19   58   26
       5 Leeds Utd.               33   14   13    6   47   32   55   15
       6 Liverpool                33   15    8   10   53   44   53    9
       7 Aston Villa              33   13   10   10   39   33   49    6
       8 Norwich City             33   11   14    8   56   46   47   10
       9 Q.P.R.                   31   13    8   10   49   41   47    8
      10 Sheffield Wed.           33   11   12   10   55   47   45    8
      11 Wimbledon                32   11    9   12   35   43   42   -8
      12 Ipswich Town             33    9   13   11   29   40   40  -11
      13 Coventry City            33    9   11   13   32   39   38   -7
      14 West Ham Utd.            31    9   11   11   30   42   38  -12
      15 Everton                  33   10    6   17   36   47   36  -11
      16 Chelsea                  31    9    8   14   34   41   35   -7
      17 Tottenham Hotspur        33    7   12   14   43   47   33   -4
      18 Southampton              32    9    5   18   33   46   32  -13
      19 Man. City                33    6   13   14   26   40   31  -14
      20 Oldham Athletic          31    7    9   15   28   51   30  -23
      21 Sheffield Utd.           33    4   15   14   29   50   27  -21
      22 Swindon Town             34    4   13   17   39   82   25  -43
    
        
13.497GALVIA::SPAINsigned long gary();Thu Mar 24 1994 21:1411
    
    Two questions on English league grounds.
    
    How far is Peterboro's ground from the Railway station?  How do you ge
    there from the station?
    
    Where is Millwall's new ground?  Nearest tube or BR station?
    
    thanks in advance
    
    Gary. 
13.498ELIS::GEELENFri Mar 25 1994 18:3015
    How is Alphons Groenendijk doing at Man. City ?
    
    Is he back in the team ?
    
    And the other Dutch players :
    
    Seegers (Wimbeldon)
    Monkou  (Southampton)
    Vonk    (Man. City)
    
    Ten Caat, Snelders (Aberdeen)
    Huistra (Glas. Rangers, words is he will leave the club at the end of
    this season, where's he going to ? Are there teams interested ?)
    
    Jeroen...
13.499GALVIA::SPAINsigned long gary();Fri Mar 25 1994 20:088
    
    Don't all rush to answer my questions re Millwall and Peterboro.
    Thanks for the phone call Gary.  I now know the Millwall's new ground
    is near their old one which means getting the tube to Newcrossgate.
    
    Peterboro's ground is about a mile from the station.
    
    Gary.
13.500Request from a Yank....ASDG::JOHNSONFri Mar 25 1994 21:0210
Would it be possible for someone to post the most
current table for Division I? I'd like to get a peak
at which teams have a shot to move up to the Premier
for next year....

Also, is the Premier League reducing the number of 
teams or is it staying at 22?

Jerry
13.501Scottish info.PAKORA::ISUTHERLANDMy other p_name is better!Sat Mar 26 1994 05:0812
    
    Jereon,
    	  Huistra and Ten Caat are currently out of favour at their clubs
    	  and both look as if they will be moving on at the end of the
    	  season.The last i heard was that Notts Forest and some Dutch
    	  team had enquired about Huistra.The Dutch team were put off by
          Rangers' value of the player and the signing deadline in England
          has passed.
    	  Theo Snelders injured his shoulder a couple of weeks ago and will
    	  be out for a couple more.
    
    				Iain.
13.502FORTY2::ASHMail Interchange Group, ReadingSun Mar 27 1994 15:496
Re Dutch players in England:

Segers and Monkou are both doing well. Not sure about Vonk, but I don't think 
anyone in the Man City team at the moment is having a good time!

grahame
13.503Division 1 detailsYUPPY::PATEMANSome Fantastic PlaceMon Mar 28 1994 13:2317
    Division One Table as at March 26th:
    
    Palace	P38	Pts71	Gls Scored 62
    Forest	 36	   63		   58
    Leicester	 36	   60		   58
    Millwall	 35	   59		   45
    Derby	 36	   56		   55
    Notts Co	 36	   55		   53
    Charlton	 35	   55		   44
    Tranmere	 36	   53		   47
    M'bro	 36	   53		   46
    Stoke	 37	   52		   43
    
    Promotion is Top 2 automatically, plus 1 from next 4 via play-offs.
    Season 94/5 is when the Premier starts to decrease	 
    
     Paul
13.504Weekend ResultsADDULT::ROBERTSONSome days are bouncers that won't let you inMon Mar 28 1994 14:1442
       Arsenal            1  -  0    Liverpool          
       Blackburn Rovers   3  -  1    Swindon Town       
       Chelsea            2  -  0    West Ham Utd.      
       Coventry City      2  -  1    Norwich City       
       Everton            0  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Ipswich Town       1  -  3    Q.P.R.             
       Oldham Athletic    0  -  0    Man. City          
       Sheffield Utd.     0  -  0    Southampton        
       Wimbledon          1  -  0    Leeds Utd.         


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                33   21   10    2   68   32   73   36 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         33   21    7    5   51   25   70   26 
   3 Arsenal                  34   16   13    5   46   19   61   27 
   4 Newcastle Utd.           33   18    6    9   65   33   60   32 
   5 Leeds Utd.               34   14   13    7   47   33   55   14 
   6 Liverpool                34   15    8   11   53   45   53    8 
   7 Q.P.R.                   32   14    8   10   52   42   50   10 
   8 Aston Villa              33   13   10   10   39   33   49    6 
   9 Norwich City             34   11   14    9   57   48   47    9 
  10 Sheffield Wed.           33   11   12   10   55   47   45    8 
  11 Wimbledon                33   12    9   12   36   43   45   -7 
  12 Coventry City            34   10   11   13   34   40   41   -6 
  13 Ipswich Town             34    9   13   12   30   43   40  -13 
  14 Chelsea                  32   10    8   14   36   41   38   -5 
  15 West Ham Utd.            32    9   11   12   30   44   38  -14 
  16 Tottenham Hotspur        34    8   12   14   44   47   36   -3 
  17 Everton                  34   10    6   18   36   48   36  -12 
  18 Southampton              33    9    6   18   33   46   33  -13 
  19 Man. City                34    6   14   14   26   40   32  -14 
  20 Oldham Athletic          32    7   10   15   28   51   31  -23 
  21 Sheffield Utd.           34    4   16   14   29   50   28  -21 
  22 Swindon Town             35    4   13   18   40   85   25  -45 


And as if you didn't know:

Coca-Cola Cup Final at Wembley:

	Aston Villa  3  -  1	Man. Utd
13.505Free For A Pint ?PANIC::ANDERSONRunning Through The ForestMon Mar 28 1994 16:2526
>>           <<< Note 13.499 by GALVIA::SPAIN "signed long gary();" >>>

    
>>    Don't all rush to answer my questions re Millwall and Peterboro.
>>    Thanks for the phone call Gary.  I now know the Millwall's new ground
>>    is near their old one which means getting the tube to Newcrossgate.
    
>>    Peterboro's ground is about a mile from the station.
    
>>    Gary.
    
    Gary,
    
    (If this isn't too late)
    
    Millwall's new ground is nearer Surrey Docks tube station or South
    Bermondsey BR (from London Bridge).
    
    Does this mean you're over here Tuesday and Wednesday nights, as
    Millwall v Luton is on Wednesday. (And a cheap day return to Roots
    Hall, Southend, for the visit of The 'Pies would be far better value!)
    
    Cheers,
    
    
    Rob
13.506UpdateKERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJShy Ann (Indian Virgin)Tue Mar 29 1994 13:0031
13.507UpdateKERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJShy Ann (Indian Virgin)Wed Mar 30 1994 13:2031
13.508UpdateKERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJShy Ann (Indian Virgin)Thu Mar 31 1994 13:2732
13.509UpdateKERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJShy Ann (Indian Virgin)Wed Apr 06 1994 15:3856
13.510Missed oneADDULT::ROBERTSONWed Apr 06 1994 16:1029
Friday 1st April

       Leeds Utd.         1  -  1    Newcastle Utd.     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                36   23   10    3   72   36   79   36 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         36   23    7    6   57   29   76   28 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           36   19    8    9   69   34   65   35 
   4 Arsenal                  36   16   15    5   48   21   63   27 
   5 Leeds Utd.               36   15   14    7   52   34   59   18 
   6 Sheffield Wed.           36   14   12   10   64   49   54   15 
   7 Liverpool                37   15    9   13   55   49   54    6 
   8 Wimbledon                36   14   10   12   43   46   52   -3 
   9 Aston Villa              36   13   12   11   39   36   51    3 
  10 Q.P.R.                   34   14    8   12   53   50   50    3 
  11 Norwich City             37   11   15   11   58   53   48    5 
  12 Coventry City            36   11   11   14   37   42   44   -5 
  13 West Ham Utd.            35   11   11   13   38   49   44  -11 
  14 Chelsea                  35   11    9   15   39   44   42   -5 
  15 Ipswich Town             37    9   14   14   33   49   41  -16 
  16 Tottenham Hotspur        36    9   12   15   47   52   39   -5 
  17 Man. City                37    8   15   14   32   42   39  -10 
  18 Everton                  37   10    7   20   37   56   37  -19 
  19 Oldham Athletic          35    9   10   16   37   56   37  -19 
  20 Sheffield Utd.           37    6   17   14   35   54   35  -19 
  21 Southampton              36    9    6   21   34   52   33  -18 
  22 Swindon Town             37    4   14   19   41   87   26  -46 
13.511ADDULT::ROBERTSONMon Apr 11 1994 18:2532
       Coventry City      1  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Liverpool          1  -  0    Ipswich Town       
       Man. City          2  -  1    Newcastle Utd.     
       Norwich City       4  -  5    Southampton        
       Sheffield Wed.     3  -  1    Q.P.R.             
       West Ham Utd.      0  -  1    Everton            


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                36   23   10    3   72   36   79   36 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         36   23    7    6   57   29   76   28 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           37   19    8   10   70   36   65   34 
   4 Arsenal                  36   16   15    5   48   21   63   27 
   5 Leeds Utd.               36   15   14    7   52   34   59   18 
   6 Sheffield Wed.           37   15   12   10   67   50   57   17 
   7 Liverpool                38   16    9   13   56   49   57    7 
   8 Wimbledon                36   14   10   12   43   46   52   -3 
   9 Aston Villa              36   13   12   11   39   36   51    3 
  10 Q.P.R.                   35   14    8   13   54   53   50    1 
  11 Norwich City             38   11   15   12   62   58   48    4 
  12 Coventry City            37   12   11   14   38   42   47   -4 
  13 West Ham Utd.            36   11   11   14   38   50   44  -12 
  14 Chelsea                  35   11    9   15   39   44   42   -5 
  15 Man. City                38    9   15   14   34   43   42   -9 
  16 Ipswich Town             38    9   14   15   33   50   41  -17 
  17 Everton                  38   11    7   20   38   56   40  -18 
  18 Tottenham Hotspur        37    9   12   16   47   53   39   -6 
  19 Oldham Athletic          35    9   10   16   37   56   37  -19 
  20 Southampton              37   10    6   21   39   56   36  -17 
  21 Sheffield Utd.           37    6   17   14   35   54   35  -19 
  22 Swindon Town             37    4   14   19   41   87   26  -46 
13.512Top 10ADDULT::ROBERTSONTue Apr 12 1994 17:4715
       Blackburn Rovers   1  -  0    Aston Villa        


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                36   23   10    3   72   36   79   36 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         37   24    7    6   58   29   79   29 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           37   19    8   10   70   36   65   34 
   4 Arsenal                  36   16   15    5   48   21   63   27 
   5 Leeds Utd.               36   15   14    7   52   34   59   18 
   6 Sheffield Wed.           37   15   12   10   67   50   57   17 
   7 Liverpool                38   16    9   13   56   49   57    7 
   8 Wimbledon                36   14   10   12   43   46   52   -3 
   9 Aston Villa              37   13   12   12   39   37   51    2 
  10 Q.P.R.                   35   14    8   13   54   53   50    1 
13.513Up to dateADDULT::ROBERTSONMon Apr 18 1994 15:2446
	Wed 13th

       Q.P.R.             1  -  1    Chelsea            

	Sat 16th

       Arsenal            1  -  0    Chelsea            
       Coventry City      1  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Ipswich Town       1  -  1    Swindon Town       
       Liverpool          0  -  2    Newcastle Utd.     
       Man. City          1  -  1    Norwich City       
       Oldham Athletic    1  -  2    West Ham Utd.      
       Q.P.R.             2  -  1    Everton            
       Sheffield Utd.     1  -  2    Aston Villa        
       Southampton        3  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   
       Wimbledon          1  -  0    Man. Utd.          

	Sun 17th

       Leeds Utd.         2  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur  


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                37   23   10    4   72   37   79   35 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         38   24    7    7   59   32   79   27 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           38   20    8   10   72   36   68   36 
   4 Arsenal                  37   17   15    5   49   21   66   28 
   5 Leeds Utd.               37   16   14    7   54   34   62   20 
   6 Sheffield Wed.           38   15   13   10   68   51   58   17 
   7 Liverpool                39   16    9   14   56   51   57    5 
   8 Wimbledon                37   15   10   12   44   46   55   -2 
   9 Aston Villa              38   14   12   12   41   38   54    3 
  10 Q.P.R.                   37   15    9   13   57   55   54    2 
  11 Norwich City             39   11   16   12   63   59   49    4 
  12 Coventry City            38   12   12   14   39   43   48   -4 
  13 West Ham Utd.            37   12   11   14   40   51   47  -11 
  14 Chelsea                  37   11   10   16   40   46   43   -6 
  15 Man. City                39    9   16   14   35   44   43   -9 
  16 Ipswich Town             39    9   15   15   34   51   42  -17 
  17 Everton                  39   11    7   21   39   58   40  -19 
  18 Tottenham Hotspur        38    9   12   17   47   55   39   -8 
  19 Southampton              38   11    6   21   42   57   39  -15 
  20 Oldham Athletic          36    9   10   17   38   58   37  -20 
  21 Sheffield Utd.           38    6   17   15   36   56   35  -20 
  22 Swindon Town             38    4   15   19   42   88   27  -46 
13.514?YUPPY::PANESBack in the PremierWed Apr 20 1994 21:226
 Has anybody ever drunk or seen on sale "Scorpion Dry Lager" as advertised
 at loads of football grounds?

 Stuart

13.515ResultsADDULT::ROBERTSONMon Apr 25 1994 15:1443
	Sat

       Aston Villa        1  -  2    Arsenal            
       Chelsea            1  -  1    Leeds Utd.         
       Everton            0  -  0    Coventry City      
       Man. Utd.          2  -  0    Man. City          
       Newcastle Utd.     3  -  2    Oldham Athletic    
       Norwich City       0  -  1    Sheffield Utd.     
       Sheffield Wed.     5  -  0    Ipswich Town       
       Swindon Town       2  -  4    Wimbledon          
       Tottenham Hotspur  3  -  0    Southampton        
       West Ham Utd.      1  -  2    Liverpool          

	Sun

       Blackburn Rovers   1  -  1    Q.P.R.             


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                38   24   10    4   74   37   82   37 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         39   24    8    7   60   33   80   27 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           39   21    8   10   75   38   71   37 
   4 Arsenal                  39   18   16    5   52   23   70   29 
   5 Leeds Utd.               38   16   15    7   55   35   63   20 
   6 Sheffield Wed.           39   16   13   10   73   51   61   22 
   7 Liverpool                40   17    9   14   58   52   60    6 
   8 Wimbledon                39   16   11   12   49   49   59    0 
   9 Q.P.R.                   38   15   10   13   58   56   55    2 
  10 Aston Villa              39   14   12   13   42   40   54    2 
  11 Norwich City             40   11   16   13   63   60   49    3 
  12 Coventry City            39   12   13   14   39   43   49   -4 
  13 West Ham Utd.            38   12   11   15   41   53   47  -12 
  14 Chelsea                  38   11   11   16   41   47   44   -6 
  15 Man. City                40    9   16   15   35   46   43  -11 
  16 Tottenham Hotspur        39   10   12   17   50   55   42   -5 
  17 Ipswich Town             40    9   15   16   34   56   42  -22 
  18 Everton                  40   11    8   21   39   58   41  -19 
  19 Southampton              39   11    6   22   42   60   39  -18 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
  20 Sheffield Utd.           39    7   17   15   37   56   38  -19 
  21 Oldham Athletic          37    9   10   18   40   61   37  -21 
  22 Swindon Town             39    4   15   20   44   92   27  -48   relegated
13.516Playoff picture?AIMTEC::WICKS_AAtlanta's Most (In)famous WelshmanTue May 03 1994 21:076
    Any new tables or at least the relegation/promotion battles from
    the other divisions.
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
13.517Swindon, Ipswich & Everton - Endsleigh 94/5YUPPY::PATEMANSome Fantastic PlaceWed May 04 1994 12:3210
    First Division:	Champions	Crystal Palace
    			Runners Up	N Forest
    
    			Play Offs	Millwall, Derby, Leicester,
    					Tranmere (Order not final yet)
    
    			Relegated	Peterboro plus two from:
    					Oxford (46pts), B'ham (48), WBA(48)
    
    Paul
13.518Can't win them allYR2000::WICKS_AAtlanta's Most (In)famous WelshmanWed May 04 1994 17:4513
    Paul 
    
    thanks that's a bit of good news and a bit of bad news. I was hoping
    that the Scummers would get relegated so Portsmouth could give them
    a good thrashing next season and show thm who's the best team on the
    south coast. 
    
    But at least with Sheff Utd staying up they have to give Cardiff another 
    50,000 pounds for Nathan Blake.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
13.519R2ME2::HINXMANIt's waiting for it that's so tryingWed May 04 1994 17:527
	To misquote Bill Shankly, the best teams on the South Coast are
	Southampton and Southampton Reserves.

	BTW At one point Portsmouth decided they were so skint they could
	not afford a reserve team. Did they ever reinstate it?

	Tony
13.520RealityYUPPY::PATEMANSome Fantastic PlaceWed May 04 1994 18:0321
    Andrew,
    
    My premiership relegation bets are just that - my best bet. The current
    position is:
    
    Man City	P41	Pts44	GD-11
    Spurs	 40	   42     - 6
    Soton	 40	   42     -15
    Sheff Utd	 41	   42     -17
    Ipswich	 41	   42     -23
    ---------------------------------
    Everton	 41	   41     -22
    Oldham	 40	   39     -24
    Swindon	 41	   30     -48
    
    Soton play Man Utd away tonight, and Oldham play Spurs tomorrow. Not
    sure of Sautrday's fixtures but I know that Everton have Wimbledon at
    home and Ipswich are away at Bburn Rovers. I think Soton are away at
    West Ham.
    
    Paul
13.521It looks like goal difference will decideNEWOA::FIDO_TConation is the keyWed May 04 1994 18:485
    If Oldham beat Spurs tomorrow and Saints lose to United tonight ( both
    looking very likely I'd say ), that will leave 5 teams on 42 points
    with Everton on 41. Has relegation ever been that close before ?
    
    Terry
13.522YUPPY::PANESIts national cake awareness weekWed May 04 1994 18:5213
           <<< Note 13.521 by NEWOA::FIDO_T "Conation is the key" >>>
                 -< It looks like goal difference will decide >-

>    If Oldham beat Spurs tomorrow and Saints lose to United tonight ( both
>    looking very likely I'd say ), that will leave 5 teams on 42 points
>    with Everton on 41. Has relegation ever been that close before ?
    
>    Terry

    Amazing innit... the F.E.s got relegated with 49 oints last year. This
    year that just a few places away from Europe.

    Stuart
13.523Nice one Stuart....BERN01::GOODEJMr DragonWed May 04 1994 18:5912
    Come on Stuart....

>>    Amazing innit... the F.E.s got relegated with 49 oints last year. This
>>    year that just a few places away from Europe.
>>
>>    Stuart

    the first UEFA place (Blackburn) are on 80 points, a few more than 49!
    8-)

    JBG
13.524KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJShy Ann (Indian Virgin)Thu May 05 1994 16:2327
          Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD
    
     1 Man. Utd.                41   27   10    4   80   38   91   42
     2 Blackburn Rovers         41   25    8    8   63   36   83   27
     3 Newcastle Utd.           41   22    8   11   80   41   74   39
     4 Arsenal                  41   18   17    6   53   26   71   27
     5 Leeds Utd.               41   17   16    8   60   39   67   21
     6 Wimbledon                41   18   11   12   54   50   65    4
     7 Sheffield Wed.           41   16   15   10   75   53   63   22
     8 Liverpool                41   17    9   15   58   53   60    5
     9 Q.P.R.                   41   15   12   14   60   60   57    0
    10 Coventry City            41   14   13   14   43   45   55   -2
    11 Aston Villa              41   14   12   15   44   49   54   -5
    12 Norwich City             41   12   16   13   64   60   52    4
    13 West Ham Utd.            41   13   12   16   44   55   51  -11
    14 Chelsea                  41   12   12   17   46   51   48   -5
    15 Man. City                41    9   17   15   37   48   44  -11
    16 Tottenham Hotspur        40   10   12   18   51   57   42   -6
    17 Southampton              41   12    6   23   46   63   42  -17
    18 Ipswich Town             41    9   15   17   35   58   42  -23
    19 Sheffield Utd.           41    8   18   15   40   57   42  -17
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    20 Everton                  41   11    8   22   39   61   41  -22
    21 Oldham Athletic          40    9   12   19   41   65   39  -24
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    22 Swindon Town             41    5   15   21   47   95   30  -48
    
13.525this could be important come 4:45 on Saturday ...BERN01::SWIB01::WRIGHTThu May 05 1994 17:526
re. -1  why are Ipswich above Sheffield Utd. when their goal difference is 
worse ? Shouldn't Sheffield Utd. (gd -17) be above Ipswich (gd -23) and
Southampton (gd -17 but fewer goals scored) ?

	Ray
13.526Well spotted Ray, the treatment appears to be working ...BERN01::BOLGERJerry Bolger.Thu May 05 1994 17:576
    Yeah, and why are Spurs above Swindon, Oldham, Everton, Ipswich, 
    Southampton and Sheffield United ?  Spurs don't deserve to feature on
    the same league table as teams of this class !!!   Why wait till
    Saturday, relegate them now !!!
    
    Jerry.
13.527OK,OK Mistake made....:-)KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJShy Ann (Indian Virgin)Thu May 05 1994 18:1627
          Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD
    
     1 Man. Utd.                41   27   10    4   80   38   91   42
     2 Blackburn Rovers         41   25    8    8   63   36   83   27
     3 Newcastle Utd.           41   22    8   11   80   41   74   39
     4 Arsenal                  41   18   17    6   53   26   71   27
     5 Leeds Utd.               41   17   16    8   60   39   67   21
     6 Wimbledon                41   18   11   12   54   50   65    4
     7 Sheffield Wed.           41   16   15   10   75   53   63   22
     8 Liverpool                41   17    9   15   58   53   60    5
     9 Q.P.R.                   41   15   12   14   60   60   57    0
    10 Coventry City            41   14   13   14   43   45   55   -2
    11 Aston Villa              41   14   12   15   44   49   54   -5
    12 Norwich City             41   12   16   13   64   60   52    4
    13 West Ham Utd.            41   13   12   16   44   55   51  -11
    14 Chelsea                  41   12   12   17   46   51   48   -5
    15 Man. City                41    9   17   15   37   48   44  -11
    16 Tottenham Hotspur        40   10   12   18   51   57   42   -6
    17 Southampton              41   12    6   23   46   63   42  -17
    18 Sheffield Utd.           41    8   18   15   40   57   42  -17
    19 Ipswich Town             41    9   15   17   35   58   42  -23
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    20 Everton                  41   11    8   22   39   61   41  -22
    21 Oldham Athletic          40    9   12   19   41   65   39  -24
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    22 Swindon Town             41    5   15   21   47   95   30  -48
    
13.528thanks ...BERN01::SWIB01::WRIGHTThu May 05 1994 19:2510
thanks for the clarification, i'd rather see Ipswich go down (no reason, just one
of those irrational pet hates you develop as a football supporter). 

Of course as a life-long Spurs fan i'd REALLY rather see Arsenal go down, but...
perhaps they could be relegated for being flash g*ts who've actually won 
something in the past few seasons  :-)  

No danger of Spurs getting relegated if that was the criteria.

	Ray
13.529sat?AIMTEC::WICKS_AAtlanta's Most (In)famous WelshmanThu May 05 1994 21:275
    anyone know who oldham and sheff u play on sat.
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
13.530Should give us a tougher game than last weekJONPC1::ButtonJon Button @REOThu May 05 1994 22:096
Oldham play Norwich at Carrow Road.  Dunno about Sheff United.

Jon



13.531Victories for Oldham, Everton and Sheff U pleaseAIMTEC::WICKS_AAtlanta's Most (In)famous WelshmanThu May 05 1994 23:278
    jon,          
    
    thanks and i'd like to assure that I will only be cheering against
    Norwich on the grounds that I want the Scummers to go down ...
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
13.532Sheff Utd play Chelsea on SaturdayNEWOA::FIDO_TConation is the keyFri May 06 1994 13:281
    
13.533UpdateKERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJShy Ann (Indian Virgin)Fri May 06 1994 14:1429
    6th May '94; Oldham 0-2 Tottenham
    
          Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD
    
     1 Man. Utd.                41   27   10    4   80   38   91   42
     2 Blackburn Rovers         41   25    8    8   63   36   83   27
     3 Newcastle Utd.           41   22    8   11   80   41   74   39
     4 Arsenal                  41   18   17    6   53   26   71   27
     5 Leeds Utd.               41   17   16    8   60   39   67   21
     6 Wimbledon                41   18   11   12   54   50   65    4
     7 Sheffield Wed.           41   16   15   10   75   53   63   22
     8 Liverpool                41   17    9   15   58   53   60    5
     9 Q.P.R.                   41   15   12   14   60   60   57    0
    10 Coventry City            41   14   13   14   43   45   55   -2
    11 Aston Villa              41   14   12   15   44   49   54   -5
    12 Norwich City             41   12   16   13   64   60   52    4
    13 West Ham Utd.            41   13   12   16   44   55   51  -11
    14 Chelsea                  41   12   12   17   46   51   48   -5
    15 Tottenham Hotspur        41   11   12   18   53   57   45   -4
    16 Man. City                41    9   17   15   37   48   44  -11
    17 Southampton              41   12    6   23   46   63   42  -17
    18 Sheffield Utd.           41    8   18   15   40   57   42  -17
    19 Ipswich Town             41    9   15   17   35   58   42  -23
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    20 Everton                  41   11    8   22   39   61   41  -22
    21 Oldham Athletic          41    9   12   20   41   67   39  -26
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    22 Swindon Town             41    5   15   21   47   95   30  -48
    
13.534No Boundary park revenge for Palace next year!YUPPY::PATEMANSome Fantastic PlaceFri May 06 1994 14:378
    So - our old friends at Palace - OLDHAM - have to win to stay up, away
    at Norwich, and Everton *could* scrape a draw as long as Ipswich lose.
    Realistically, Man City are out of it now with only Everton capable of
    putting them into the bottom 3 and a net 11 benefit on GD. 
    
    My money would be on Oldham and Everton.
    
    Paul
13.535Spurs safe.UPROAR::LEMPLive slow, die youngFri May 06 1994 15:096
    Can't see Oldham getting out now. Pity really because there are quite a
    few clubs that I'd rather see go down. The other will be Ipswich or
    Everton, I think.
    
    Paul.
     
13.536The Big Club debate again.UPROAR::LEMPLive slow, die youngFri May 06 1994 15:2414
    Talking of Everton and Spurs in the relegation struggle, do they still
    qualify for membership of The Big Five.
    
    My current list would have only four members : Manu, Leeds, Liverpool
    and Arsenal, in no particular order.
    
    Everton and Spurs would need a couple of seasons of good performances
    and a trophy or two to get back in. The young pretenders are Blackburn,
    Newcastle and (maybe) Wednesday. Man City have the potential and Villa
    are verging on membership but need to consolidate on the last two
    seasons.
    
    Paul.
    
13.537Come on ! KIRKTN::JJACKFri May 06 1994 21:474
    
    I'd hardly call Leeds United a big club !
    
    
13.538anyone out there WITHOUT a radio ?BERN01::SWIB01::WRIGHTSat May 07 1994 19:5810
important half times at the bottom of the premiership...

blackburn  0 - 0   ipswich
chelsea    0 - 1   sheffield utd
everton    1 - 2   wimbledon
norwich    0 - 1   oldham		
west ham   1 - 1   southampton


	Ray
13.539oldham and sheffield utd go down with swindonBERN01::SWIB01::WRIGHTSat May 07 1994 20:5210
full times...

blackburn  0 - 0   ipswich
chelsea    3 - 2   sheffield utd    (sheffield lose to last minute goal by stein)
everton    3 - 2   wimbledon        (everton come back from 0-2 down)
norwich    1 - 1   oldham		
west ham   2 - 3   southampton      (latest - play stopped due to pitch invasion)


	Ray
13.540Just the odd question or 3PETRUS::GUEST_NMon May 09 1994 16:4015
    
    Has anyone got the 1st division scores from Sunday ?
    
    Also what happened with Man U   Vs   Coventry
    
    Also (!), have the league relented and decided to allow Kidderminster
    there rightful place in Div 3 ?
    
    
    Ta
    
    Nigel
    
    
    
13.541United 0 Coventry 0CODIN::PHAYDENMon May 09 1994 17:3914
Div 1.

Bolton       0  Barnsley 	0 
Bristol      0  Peterbrough 	0
Charlton     2  Middlesbrough 	5
C. Palace    0  Watford 	2
Grimsby      0  Milwall 	0
Nots. Forest 2  Sunderland 	2
Oxford       2  Nots. County 	1
Protsmouth   0  WBA 		1
Sth. End     4  Derby 		3
Stoke        2  Luton 		2
Tranmere     1  Birmingham 	2
Wolves       1  Leicester 	1
13.542CHEFS::HARRISRAve you gota loit boy ?Mon May 09 1994 18:0110
    I could have sworn, as I watched the highlights from Ashton Gate
    yesterday afternoon, that Junior Bent scored within 13 seconds against
    Peterborough, and that he scored another, with his head. Then from the
    start of the second half Bristol City scored another, with Peterborough
    replying, with a goal themselves. City then scored another, by the
    bloke who scored the 3rd (with his first touch). With the score ending
    up 4 - 1 to Bristol City, which differs somewhat from the 0 - 0 entered
    in the -1.
    
    Rich.
13.543And it wasn't even 0-0 at half timeCODIN::PHAYDENMon May 09 1994 18:4013
Well you know what ? You're dead right Rich, I messed up. 

Sorry 'bout that,

Bristol	4 Peterborough 1



is the correct result.

Peter.

P.S I hope the rest are correct.
13.544Final standingsADDULT::ROBERTSONMon May 09 1994 20:1287
Results from the last few weeks & Final Table

       Newcastle Utd.     5  -  1    Aston Villa        
       Leeds Utd.         0  -  2    Man. Utd.          
       West Ham Utd.      1  -  2    Blackburn Rovers   
       Chelsea            2  -  0    Swindon Town       
       Q.P.R.             1  -  1    Arsenal            
       Wimbledon          3  -  0    Oldham Athletic    

	Sat 30th Apr

       Arsenal            0  -  2    West Ham Utd.      
       Leeds Utd.         3  -  0    Everton            
       Liverpool          0  -  1    Norwich City       
       Man. City          2  -  2    Chelsea            
       Oldham Athletic    0  -  0    Sheffield Wed.     
       Q.P.R.             1  -  3    Swindon Town       
       Sheffield Utd.     2  -  0    Newcastle Utd.     
       Southampton        4  -  1    Aston Villa        
       Wimbledon          2  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  

        Sun 1st May

       Ipswich Town       1  -  2    Man. Utd.          

	Mon 2nd May

       Coventry City      2  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   

	Tues 3rd May

       Leeds Utd.         2  -  2    Sheffield Wed.     
       Oldham Athletic    0  -  0    Sheffield Utd.     
       Q.P.R.             0  -  0    West Ham Utd.      

	Wed 4th May

       Chelsea            1  -  2    Coventry City      
       Man. Utd.          2  -  0    Southampton        

	Thur 5th May

       Oldham Athletic    0  -  2    Tottenham Hotspur  

        Sat 7th May

       Aston Villa        2  -  1    Liverpool          
       Blackburn Rovers   0  -  0    Ipswich Town       
       Chelsea            3  -  2    Sheffield Utd.     
       Everton            3  -  2    Wimbledon          
       Man. Utd.          0  -  0    Coventry City      
       Newcastle Utd.     2  -  0    Arsenal            
       Norwich City       1  -  1    Oldham Athletic    
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  1    Man. City          
       Swindon Town       0  -  5    Leeds Utd.         
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  2    Q.P.R.             
       West Ham Utd.      3  -  3    Southampton        

        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                42   27   11    4   80   38   92   42 EURO Cup
--------------------------------------------------------------------
   2 Blackburn Rovers         42   25    9    8   63   36   84   27 UEFA
--------------------------------------------------------------------
   3 Newcastle Utd.           42   23    8   11   82   41   77   41 UEFA ????
   4 Arsenal                  42   18   17    7   53   28   71   25 CWC
   5 Leeds Utd.               42   18   16    8   65   39   70   26 
   6 Wimbledon                42   18   11   13   56   53   65    3 
   7 Sheffield Wed.           42   16   16   10   76   54   64   22 
   8 Liverpool                42   17    9   16   59   55   60    4 
   9 Q.P.R.                   42   16   12   14   62   61   60    1 
  10 Aston Villa              42   15   12   15   46   50   57   -4 UEFA
  11 Coventry City            42   14   14   14   43   45   56   -2 
  12 Norwich City             42   12   17   13   65   61   53    4 
  13 West Ham Utd.            42   13   13   16   47   58   52  -11 
  14 Chelsea                  42   13   12   17   49   53   51   -4 CWC
  15 Tottenham Hotspur        42   11   12   19   54   59   45   -5 
  16 Man. City                42    9   18   15   38   49   45  -11 
  17 Everton                  42   12    8   22   42   63   44  -21 
  18 Southampton              42   12    7   23   49   66   43  -17 
  19 Ipswich Town             42    9   16   17   35   58   43  -23 
--------------------------------------------------------------------
  20 Sheffield Utd.           42    8   18   16   41   59   42  -18 
  21 Oldham Athletic          42    9   13   20   41   67   40  -26 
  22 Swindon Town             42    5   15   22   47  100   30  -53 

Newcastle will find out in July whether they get the other UEFA place.
13.545Div 1 top of the table?STAR::CASSILYTue May 10 1994 06:484
    What was the top of the table from Div 1? Which teams get the automatic 
    promotion, and which teams are in the playoffs?
    
    Mike
13.546Div 1 StatusYUPPY::PATEMANSome Fantastic PlaceTue May 10 1994 12:0911
    As previously stated, but I'll say it again cos its brilliant....
    
    Champions (by a 7 point margin) Crystal Palace
    Runners Up			    Forest
    
    Play Offs	Millwall vs Derby
    		Tranmere vs Leicester
    
    Relegated	Peterborough, Oxford, Birmingham
    
    Paul
13.547but of course chelsea will win.AIMTEC::WICKS_AAtlanta's Most (In)famous WelshmanFri May 13 1994 06:486
    Wouldn't it be ironic if a team that finished 14th and didn't win any
    cups qualified for a european competition??
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
13.548questionAIMTEC::WICKS_AAtlanta's Most (In)famous WelshmanMon May 16 1994 23:111
    what dates are the playoff games?
13.549Scores from 1st legBUSSTP::DSMITHIt's over the line...Tue May 17 1994 01:2525
    
    
     Played Sunday May 15, 1st leg
                                 
    1st Division
    
        Derby  2  Millwall  0
    
        Tranmere  0  Leicester  0
    
    2nd Division
    
        Burnley  0  Plymouth  0
    
        York  0     Stockport  0
    
    3rd Division
    
        Carlisle  0  Wycombe  2
    
        Torquay  2  Preston  0
    
    
     Danny.
    
13.550FORTY2::ASHMail Interchange Group, ReadingTue May 17 1994 16:338
The return matches are tomorrow, I think, with the finals over the 28-30 
holiday weekend.

Leicester and Tranmere have got this playoff thing sussed - the way to do it 
is get to Wembley and lose. Swindon have failed to do this twice, and look 
what's happened to them! Get your money on Derby!

grahame
13.551IRNBRU::HOWARDNYC,June 18 - ITA 0 - 2 RoIThu May 19 1994 13:205
    Football hooliganism reared its ugly head last night at the
    Millwall-Derby match. Some Millwall `fans' invaded the pitch and
    attacked 2 Derby players....
    
    Morons....
13.552Is it all over yet.?AIMTEC::WICKS_AAtlanta's Most (In)famous WelshmanMon May 23 1994 21:387
    OK what state are the playoffs at - who's left and when are the finals.
    
    the U.S definitely needs Harkes back soon.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.wicks
13.553Nearly thereADDULT::ROBERTSONTue May 24 1994 14:2614
Sat - Div 3 final

Wycombe v Preston

Sun - Div 2 final

Stockport v Burnley

Mon - Div 1 Final

Derby v Leicester


All at Wembley
13.554First resultFORTY2::ASHMail Interchange Group, ReadingSun May 29 1994 15:457
Wycombe have won promotion after their first season in the Football League, 
after beating Preston 4-2 at Wembley.

Congratulations to them. Yet more ammo for the "Non-League teams are better" 
crowd!

g
13.555Second result.PAKORA::ISUTHERLANDI'll be forever blue...Mon May 30 1994 00:116
    
    2nd div play-off Final result:
    
    Burnley 2 Stockport 1
    
    Stockport had two players sent off.
13.556FORTY2::ASHMail Interchange Group, ReadingMon May 30 1994 13:495
>    Stockport had two players sent off.

One for spitting, the other for stamping. What a nice bunch of lads.

g
13.557Last one up?ASDG::JOHNSONWed Jun 01 1994 22:006
What was the outcome of the Derby County - Leicester
match played Monday night at Wembley? Did John Harkes
play for Derby? He hasn't been able to report to the
US team because of his commitments to Derby.....

Jerry
13.558KIRKTN::GMCDONALDThe United Men of AyrThu Jun 02 1994 02:448
    
    Derby lost 2-1 after being 1 up.The match was watched by around 
    70,000 I think ...
    
    Don't know if Harkes played .
    
                               Graeme..
    
13.559And that would have killed the tie !PAKORA::JJACKThu Jun 02 1994 03:033
    
    Sal...He did & missed a sitter !
    
13.560And they're off...ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKMon Aug 22 1994 18:1166
	Sat 20th

       Arsenal            3  -  0    Man. City          
       Chelsea            2  -  0    Norwich City       
       Coventry City      1  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Crystal Palace     1  -  6    Liverpool          
       Everton            2  -  2    Aston Villa        
       Ipswich Town       0  -  1    Nott'm Forest      
       Man. Utd.          2  -  0    Q.P.R.             
       Sheffield Wed.     3  -  4    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Southampton        1  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   
       West Ham Utd.      0  -  0    Leeds Utd.         

	Sun 21st

       Leicester City     1  -  3    Newcastle Utd.     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Liverpool                 1    1    0    0    6    1    3    5 
   2 Arsenal                   1    1    0    0    3    0    3    3 
   3 Newcastle Utd.            1    1    0    0    3    1    3    2 
   4 Chelsea                   1    1    0    0    2    0    3    2 
   5 Man. Utd.                 1    1    0    0    2    0    3    2 
   6 Tottenham Hotspur         1    1    0    0    4    3    3    1 
   7 Nott'm Forest             1    1    0    0    1    0    3    1 
   8 Aston Villa               1    0    1    0    2    2    1    0 
   9 Everton                   1    0    1    0    2    2    1    0 
  10 Blackburn Rovers          1    0    1    0    1    1    1    0 
  11 Coventry City             1    0    1    0    1    1    1    0 
  12 Southampton               1    0    1    0    1    1    1    0 
  13 Wimbledon                 1    0    1    0    1    1    1    0 
  14 Leeds Utd.                1    0    1    0    0    0    1    0 
  15 West Ham Utd.             1    0    1    0    0    0    1    0 
  16 Sheffield Wed.            1    0    0    1    3    4    0   -1 
  17 Ipswich Town              1    0    0    1    0    1    0   -1 
  18 Leicester City            1    0    0    1    1    3    0   -2 
  19 Norwich City              1    0    0    1    0    2    0   -2 
  20 Q.P.R.                    1    0    0    1    0    2    0   -2 
  21 Man. City                 1    0    0    1    0    3    0   -3 
  22 Crystal Palace            1    0    0    1    1    6    0   -5 


Midweek games:

Mon 22 Aug 94

Nottingham Forest    - Manchester United

Tue 23 Aug 94

Blackburn Rovers     - Leicester City
Leeds United         - Arsenal
Wimbledon            - Ipswich Town


Wed 24 Aug 94

Aston Villa          - Southampton
Liverpool            - Chelsea
Manchester City      - West Ham United
Newcastle United     - Coventry City
Norwich City         - Crystal Palace
Queen's Park Rangers - Sheffield Wednesday
Tottenham Hotspur    - Everton
13.561Rush ahead?ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLIONCan-tas-ticMon Aug 22 1994 18:343
    Leading league scorers anyone?
    
    /JF
13.562FORTY2::FOWLERMResonate some understandingMon Aug 22 1994 19:333
Rush and McManaman have both got two.

Mike
13.563Updated Premier League standingsYUPPY::PANESM.A.B. its big horse, I'm a LondonerMon Aug 22 1994 20:1226
        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Liverpool                 1    1    0    0    6    1    3    5 
   2 Arsenal                   1    1    0    0    3    0    3    3 
   3 Newcastle Utd.            1    1    0    0    3    1    3    2 
   4 Chelsea                   1    1    0    0    2    0    3    2 
   5 Man. Utd.                 1    1    0    0    2    0    3    2 
   6 Nott'm Forest             1    1    0    0    1    0    3    1 
   7 Aston Villa               1    0    1    0    2    2    1    0 
   8 Everton                   1    0    1    0    2    2    1    0 
   9 Blackburn Rovers          1    0    1    0    1    1    1    0 
  10 Coventry City             1    0    1    0    1    1    1    0 
  11 Southampton               1    0    1    0    1    1    1    0 
  12 Wimbledon                 1    0    1    0    1    1    1    0 
  13 Leeds Utd.                1    0    1    0    0    0    1    0 
  14 West Ham Utd.             1    0    1    0    0    0    1    0 
  15 Sheffield Wed.            1    0    0    1    3    4    0   -1 
  16 Ipswich Town              1    0    0    1    0    1    0   -1 
  17 Leicester City            1    0    0    1    1    3    0   -2 
  18 Norwich City              1    0    0    1    0    2    0   -2 
  19 Q.P.R.                    1    0    0    1    0    2    0   -2 
  20 Man. City                 1    0    0    1    0    3    0   -3 
  21 Crystal Palace            1    0    0    1    1    6    0   -5 
  22 Tottenham Hotspur         1    1    0    0    4    3   -3    1  


13.564XSTACY::MDUNPHYJust another Day!!Mon Aug 22 1994 20:221
You'd do anything to keep Palace off the bottom!!!!
13.565Surely notAIMTEC::WICKS_ABrazil v Italy - I was there!Mon Aug 22 1994 22:392
    I thought the points were'nt deducted til the end of the season
    so can we have Palace back at the bottom please.
13.566GLADYS::CRAVENA McBodybagTue Aug 23 1994 12:113
    Is there anywhere where I can get the draw for this season
    electronically for all teams, by week?
    Ica
13.567MARVIN::MORRELLBaby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... Tue Aug 23 1994 12:145
    Ica.. you realize don't you that this is not Australian Rules
    Football.. ;->>
    
    Rick. ( What out you Aussie cricket fans.. Malcolm & Benjamin are
    	    coming to get ya... ;->> )
13.568Mal and Ben flowerpot menGLADYS::CRAVENA McBodybagWed Aug 24 1994 04:043
    Thanks to Fowlerm for the draw,
    oh, and Rick, see you at the SCG first week of January, where you will
    be handed the thrashing you so thoroughly deserve.
13.569Recent results and table???MOVIES::PLAYFORDKevin @ EDO-13 [DTN:824-3394]Wed Aug 31 1994 14:389
    Is/does anyone have the results from the last three games in the
    Premier League??
    
    If so, will they post them here in this note, please.
    
    Secondly, is anyone keeping the Premier League Table up to date with
    the Dezz Cassidy League Update package (;-))??
    
    /Kev
13.570SHIPS::EDWARDS_DWed Aug 31 1994 14:457
    Last nights results :
    
    Palace 1 Leeds 2
    Everton 1 Forest 2
    Ipswich 1 Tottingham 3
    
    Forest are top of the table (for now).
13.571For Reference.....GYMAC::DCASSIDYWed Aug 31 1994 16:5079
    
These are the results from week 1 of the league in ENGLAND
Arsenal                  3-0    Manchester City          
Chelsea                  2-0    Norwich City             
Coventry City            1-1    Wimbledon                
Crystal Palace           1-6    Liverpool                
Everton                  2-2    Aston Villa              
Ipswich Town             0-1    Nottingham Forest        
Leicester City           1-3    Newcastle United         
Manchester United        2-0    Queens Park Rangers      
Sheffield Wednesday      3-4    Tottenham Hotspur        
Southampton              1-1    Blackburn Rover          
West Ham United          0-0    Leeds United             
    
These are the results from week 2 of the league in ENGLAND
Aston Villa              1-1    Southampton              
Blackburn Rover          3-0    Leicester City           
Leeds United             1-0    Arsenal                  
Liverpool                 v     Chelsea                  
Manchester City          3-0    West Ham United          
Manchester United        1-1    Nottingham Forest        
Newcastle United         4-0    Coventry City            
Norwich City             0-0    Crystal Palace           
Queens Park Rangers      3-2    Sheffield Wednesday      
Tottenham Hotspur        2-1    Everton                  
Wimbledon                1-1    Ipswich Town             
    
These are the results from week 3 of the league in ENGLAND
Aston Villa              1-1    Crystal Palace           
Blackburn Rover          4-0    Coventry City            
Leeds United             2-3    Chelsea                  
Liverpool                3-0    Arsenal                  
Manchester City          4-0    Everton                  
Newcastle United         5-1    Southampton              
Norwich City             1-0    West Ham United          
Nottingham Forest        1-0    Leicester City           
Queens Park Rangers      1-2    Ipswich Town             
Tottenham Hotspur        0-1    Manchester United        
Wimbledon                0-1    Sheffield Wednesday      
    
These are the results from week 4 of the league in ENGLAND
Arsenal                   v     Blackburn Rover          
Chelsea                   v     Manchester City          
Coventry City            0-1    Aston Villa              
Crystal Palace           1-2    Leeds United             
Everton                  1-2    Nottingham Forest        
Ipswich Town             1-3    Tottenham Hotspur        
Leicester City            v     Queens Park Rangers      
Manchester United         v     Wimbledon                
Sheffield Wednesday       v     Norwich City             
Southampton               v     Liverpool                
West Ham United           v     Newcastle United         


This is the League Table from ENGLAND after 4 rounds of matches

    Team Name              P    W    D    L    GF   GA   PF   PA
Nottingham Forest          4    3    1    0    5    2    10   2
Newcastle United           3    3    0    0    12   2    9    0
Tottenham Hotspur          4    3    0    1    9    6    9    3
Blackburn Rover            3    2    1    0    8    1    7    2
Manchester United          3    2    1    0    4    1    7    2
Leeds United               4    2    1    1    5    4    7    5
Liverpool                  2    2    0    0    9    1    6    0
Chelsea                    2    2    0    0    5    2    6    0
Manchester City            3    2    0    1    7    3    6    3
Aston Villa                4    1    3    0    5    4    6    6
Norwich City               3    1    1    1    1    2    4    5
Ipswich Town               4    1    1    2    4    6    4    8
Sheffield Wednesday        3    1    0    2    6    7    3    6
Arsenal                    3    1    0    2    3    4    3    6
Queens Park Rangers        3    1    0    2    4    6    3    6
Wimbledon                  3    0    2    1    2    3    2    7
Southampton                3    0    2    1    3    7    2    7
Crystal Palace             4    0    2    2    3    9    2    10
West Ham United            3    0    1    2    0    4    1    8
Everton                    4    0    1    3    4    10   1    11
Coventry City              4    0    1    3    1    10   1    11
Leicester City             3    0    0    3    1    7    0    9
13.572Volunteer required please.MOVIES::PLAYFORDKevin @ EDO-13 [DTN:824-3394]Wed Aug 31 1994 19:0812
Can we have a volunteer to enter the Premier Results and updated
table please.

Dezz has a piece of software to assist you in this task. See his previous
reply for an example of its output.

Willing volunteers should mail Dezz on GYMAC::DCASSIDY to acquire
a copy of his results input software.

Regards
/Kev
13.573... or is this a feature?TUXEDO::HINXMANI've got a little listWed Sep 07 1994 01:209
    If .571 was generated by Dezz's software, he needs to fix it.
    
    It appears to be calculating "Points Against" as
    	(3 * GamesPlayed - PointsFor")
    This is wrong, as if a match is drawn, only 1 point is awarded to the
    opposing team. The correct formula is something like
    	(3 * GamesLost + GamesDrawn).
    
    Tony
13.574RTOVC0::DCASSIDYWed Sep 07 1994 12:2710
    
    Tony,
    
    	Good point...This was originally for the German Bundesliga where
    the two formulas you entered would yield the same result. The column I
    suppose should read  "Points dropped" thus you drop 2 points in a draw.
    Effectively the sum of points for and 'against' (dropped) should be
    games played * points per win.
    
    Dezzz.
13.575ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKThu Sep 08 1994 17:307
I'll do it (like I did last year, and the year before..)

and I've got my own program. so nerr!!!

:-) :-):-) :-) :-)  :-) :-) 

Al
13.576Here we go!!ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKMon Sep 12 1994 18:2269
	Rest of week 4 results

       Arsenal            0  -  0    Blackburn Rovers   
       Chelsea            3  -  0    Man. City          
       Leicester City     1  -  1    Q.P.R.             
       Man. Utd.          3  -  0    Wimbledon          
       Sheffield Wed.     0  -  0    Norwich City       
       Southampton        0  -  2    Liverpool          
       West Ham Utd.      1  -  3    Newcastle Utd.     

	Sat 10th Sept.

       Aston Villa        2  -  0    Ipswich Town       
       Blackburn Rovers   3  -  0    Everton            
       Liverpool          0  -  0    West Ham Utd.      
       Man. City          1  -  1    Crystal Palace     
       Newcastle Utd.     4  -  2    Chelsea            
       Norwich City       0  -  0    Arsenal            
       Nott'm Forest      4  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Q.P.R.             2  -  2    Coventry City      
       Wimbledon          2  -  1    Leicester City

	Sun 11th Sept.
     
       Leeds Utd.         2  -  1    Man. Utd.          


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Newcastle Utd.            5    5    0    0   19    5   15   14 
   2 Nott'm Forest             5    4    1    0    9    3   13    6 
   3 Blackburn Rovers          5    3    2    0   11    1   11   10 
   4 Liverpool                 4    3    1    0   11    1   10   10 
   5 Man. Utd.                 5    3    1    1    8    3   10    5 
   6 Leeds Utd.                5    3    1    1    7    5   10    2 
   7 Chelsea                   4    3    0    1   10    6    9    4 
   8 Tottenham Hotspur         4    3    0    1    9    6    9    3 
   9 Aston Villa               5    2    3    0    7    4    9    3 
  10 Man. City                 5    2    1    2    8    7    7    1 
  11 Norwich City              5    1    3    1    1    2    6   -1 
  12 Arsenal                   5    1    2    2    3    4    5   -1 
  13 Q.P.R.                    5    1    2    2    7    9    5   -2 
  14 Wimbledon                 5    1    2    2    4    7    5   -3 
  15 Sheffield Wed.            5    1    1    3    7   11    4   -4 
  16 Ipswich Town              5    1    1    3    4    8    4   -4 
  17 Crystal Palace            5    0    3    2    4   10    3   -6 
  18 Southampton               4    0    2    2    3    9    2   -6 
  19 West Ham Utd.             5    0    2    3    1    7    2   -6 
  20 Coventry City             5    0    2    3    3   12    2   -9 
  21 Leicester City            5    0    1    4    3   10    1   -7 
  22 Everton                   5    0    1    4    4   13    1   -9 

This Evening

Tottenham Hotspur    - Southampton

Next weekend

Arsenal              - Newcastle United
Chelsea              - Blackburn Rovers
Coventry City        - Leeds United
Crystal Palace       - Wimbledon
Everton              - Queen's Park Rangers
Ipswich Town         - Norwich City
Leicester City       - Tottenham Hotspur
Manchester United    - Liverpool
Sheffield Wednesday  - Manchester City
Southampton          - Nottingham Forest
West Ham United      - Aston Villa
13.577Week 6 - revisitedADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKTue Sep 20 1994 17:3346
	Sat 17th

       Coventry City      2  -  1    Leeds Utd.         
       Crystal Palace     0  -  0    Wimbledon          
       Everton            2  -  2    Q.P.R.             
       Leicester City     3  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Man. Utd.          2  -  0    Liverpool          
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  1    Man. City          
       Southampton        1  -  1    Nott'm Forest      
       West Ham Utd.      1  -  0    Aston Villa        

	Sun 18th

       Arsenal            2  -  3    Newcastle Utd.     
       Chelsea            1  -  2    Blackburn Rovers   

	Mon 20th

       Ipswich Town       1  -  2    Norwich City



        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Newcastle Utd.            6    6    0    0   22    7   18   15 
   2 Blackburn Rovers          6    4    2    0   13    2   14   11 
   3 Nott'm Forest             6    4    2    0   10    4   14    6 
   4 Man. Utd.                 6    4    1    1   10    3   13    7 
   5 Liverpool                 5    3    1    1   11    3   10    8 
   6 Leeds Utd.                6    3    1    2    7    6   10    1 
   7 Chelsea                   5    3    0    2   11    8    9    3 
   8 Aston Villa               6    2    3    1    7    5    9    2 
   9 Tottenham Hotspur         6    3    0    3   11   11    9    0 
  10 Man. City                 6    2    2    2    9    8    8    1 
  11 Norwich City              5    1    3    1    1    2    6   -1 
  12 Q.P.R.                    6    1    3    2    9   11    6   -2 
  13 Wimbledon                 6    1    3    2    4    7    6   -3 
  14 Southampton               6    1    3    2    6   11    6   -5 
  15 Arsenal                   6    1    2    3    5    7    5   -2 
  16 Sheffield Wed.            6    1    2    3    8   12    5   -4 
  17 West Ham Utd.             6    1    2    3    2    7    5   -5 
  18 Coventry City             6    1    2    3    4   12    5   -8 
  19 Ipswich Town              5    1    1    3    4    8    4   -4 
  20 Leicester City            6    1    1    4    6   11    4   -5 
  21 Crystal Palace            6    0    4    2    4   10    4   -6 
  22 Everton                   6    0    2    4    6   15    2   -9 
13.578Week 7ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKMon Sep 26 1994 15:5044
	Sat 24th

       Blackburn Rovers   3  -  1    Aston Villa        
       Coventry City      1  -  3    Southampton        
       Crystal Palace     0  -  1    Chelsea            
       Everton            1  -  1    Leicester City     
       Ipswich Town       3  -  2    Man. Utd.          
       Man. City          2  -  0    Norwich City       
       Newcastle Utd.     1  -  1    Liverpool          
       Q.P.R.             0  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  4    Nott'm Forest      

	Sun 25th

       West Ham Utd.      0  -  2    Arsenal            


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Newcastle Utd.            7    6    1    0   23    8   19   15 
   2 Blackburn Rovers          7    5    2    0   16    3   17   13 
   3 Nott'm Forest             7    5    2    0   14    5   17    9 
   4 Man. Utd.                 7    4    1    2   12    6   13    6 
   5 Chelsea                   6    4    0    2   12    8   12    4 
   6 Liverpool                 6    3    2    1   12    4   11    8 
   7 Man. City                 7    3    2    2   11    8   11    3 
   8 Leeds Utd.                6    3    1    2    8    7   10    1 
   9 Aston Villa               7    2    3    2    8    8    9    0 
  10 Wimbledon                 7    2    3    2    5    7    9   -2 
  11 Norwich City              7    2    3    2    3    5    9   -2 
  12 Tottenham Hotspur         7    3    0    4   12   15    9   -3 
  13 Southampton               7    2    3    2    9   12    9   -3 
  14 Arsenal                   7    2    2    3    7    7    8    0 
  15 Ipswich Town              7    2    1    4    8   12    7   -4 
  16 Q.P.R.                    7    1    3    3    9   12    6   -3 
  17 Sheffield Wed.            6    1    2    3    8   12    5   -4 
  18 Leicester City            7    1    2    4    7   12    5   -5 
  19 West Ham Utd.             7    1    2    4    2    9    5   -7 
  20 Coventry City             7    1    2    4    6   16    5  -10 
  21 Crystal Palace            7    0    4    3    4   11    4   -7 
  22 Everton                   7    0    3    4    7   16    3   -9 


Tonight:	Sheffield Wed. v Leeds Utd.
13.579Up to dateADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKTue Sep 27 1994 20:4341
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  1    Leeds Utd.         


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Newcastle Utd.            7    6    1    0   23    8   19   15 
   2 Blackburn Rovers          7    5    2    0   16    3   17   13 
   3 Nott'm Forest             7    5    2    0   14    5   17    9 
   4 Man. Utd.                 7    4    1    2   12    6   13    6 
   5 Chelsea                   6    4    0    2   12    8   12    4 
   6 Liverpool                 6    3    2    1   12    4   11    8 
   7 Man. City                 7    3    2    2   11    8   11    3 
   8 Leeds Utd.                7    3    2    2    9    8   11    1 
   9 Aston Villa               7    2    3    2    8    8    9    0 
  10 Wimbledon                 7    2    3    2    5    7    9   -2 
  11 Norwich City              7    2    3    2    3    5    9   -2 
  12 Tottenham Hotspur         7    3    0    4   12   15    9   -3 
  13 Southampton               7    2    3    2    9   12    9   -3 
  14 Arsenal                   7    2    2    3    7    7    8    0 
  15 Ipswich Town              7    2    1    4    8   12    7   -4 
  16 Q.P.R.                    7    1    3    3    9   12    6   -3 
  17 Sheffield Wed.            7    1    3    3    9   13    6   -4 
  18 Leicester City            7    1    2    4    7   12    5   -5 
  19 West Ham Utd.             7    1    2    4    2    9    5   -7 
  20 Coventry City             7    1    2    4    6   16    5  -10 
  21 Crystal Palace            7    0    4    3    4   11    4   -7 
  22 Everton                   7    0    3    4    7   16    3   -9 

Next weekends fixtures:

Arsenal              - Crystal Palace
Aston Villa          - Newcastle United
Chelsea              - West Ham United
Leeds United         - Manchester City
Leicester City       - Coventry City
Liverpool            - Sheffield Wednesday
Manchester United    - Everton
Norwich City         - Blackburn Rovers
Nottingham Forest    - Queen's Park Rangers
Southampton          - Ipswich Town
Wimbledon            - Tottenham Hotspur
13.580Week 8ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKMon Oct 03 1994 13:5057
	Sat 1st Oct

       Arsenal            1  -  2    Crystal Palace     
       Aston Villa        0  -  2    Newcastle Utd.     
       Leeds Utd.         2  -  0    Man. City          
       Liverpool          4  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Man. Utd.          2  -  0    Everton            
       Norwich City       2  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   
       Southampton        3  -  1    Ipswich Town       
       Wimbledon          1  -  2    Tottenham Hotspur  

	Sun 2nd Oct

       Chelsea            1  -  2    West Ham Utd.      
       Nott'm Forest      3  -  2    Q.P.R.             


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Newcastle Utd.            8    7    1    0   25    8   22   17 
   2 Nott'm Forest             8    6    2    0   17    7   20   10 
   3 Blackburn Rovers          8    5    2    1   17    5   17   12 
   4 Man. Utd.                 8    5    1    2   14    6   16    8 
   5 Liverpool                 7    4    2    1   16    5   14   11 
   6 Leeds Utd.                8    4    2    2   11    8   14    3 
   7 Chelsea                   7    4    0    3   13   10   12    3 
   8 Southampton               8    3    3    2   12   13   12   -1 
   9 Norwich City              8    3    3    2    5    6   12   -1 
  10 Tottenham Hotspur         8    4    0    4   14   16   12   -2 
  11 Man. City                 8    3    2    3   11   10   11    1 
  12 Aston Villa               8    2    3    3    8   10    9   -2 
  13 Wimbledon                 8    2    3    3    6    9    9   -3 
  14 Arsenal                   8    2    2    4    8    9    8   -1 
  15 West Ham Utd.             8    2    2    4    4   10    8   -6 
  16 Ipswich Town              8    2    1    5    9   15    7   -6 
  17 Crystal Palace            8    1    4    3    6   12    7   -6 
  18 Q.P.R.                    8    1    3    4   11   15    6   -4 
  19 Sheffield Wed.            8    1    3    4   10   17    6   -7 
  20 Leicester City            7    1    2    4    7   12    5   -5 
  21 Coventry City             7    1    2    4    6   16    5  -10 
  22 Everton                   8    0    3    5    7   18    3  -11 

Tonight:	Leicester City v Coventry City

Next weekend:

Chelsea              - Leicester City
Coventry City        - Ipswich Town
Liverpool            - Aston Villa
Manchester City      - Nottingham Forest
Newcastle United     - Blackburn Rovers
Norwich City         - Leeds United
Sheffield Wednesday  - Manchester United
Southampton          - Everton
Tottenham Hotspur    - Queen's Park Rangers
West Ham United      - Crystal Palace
Wimbledon            - Arsenal
13.581Week 9ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKMon Oct 10 1994 14:3364
	Sat 8th

       Chelsea            4  -  0    Leicester City     
       Liverpool          3  -  2    Aston Villa        
       Man. City          3  -  3    Nott'm Forest      
       Norwich City       2  -  1    Leeds Utd.         
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  0    Man. Utd.          
       Southampton        2  -  0    Everton            
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  1    Q.P.R.             
       West Ham Utd.      1  -  0    Crystal Palace     
       Wimbledon          1  -  3    Arsenal            

	Sun 9th

       Newcastle Utd.     1  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Newcastle Utd.            9    7    2    0   26    9   23   17 
   2 Nott'm Forest             9    6    3    0   20   10   21   10 
   3 Blackburn Rovers          9    5    3    1   18    6   18   12 
   4 Liverpool                 8    5    2    1   19    7   17   12 
   5 Man. Utd.                 9    5    1    3   14    7   16    7 
   6 Chelsea                   8    5    0    3   17   10   15    7 
   7 Southampton               9    4    3    2   14   13   15    1 
   8 Norwich City              9    4    3    2    7    7   15    0 
   9 Leeds Utd.                9    4    2    3   12   10   14    2 
  10 Tottenham Hotspur         9    4    1    4   15   17   13   -2 
  11 Man. City                 9    3    3    3   14   13   12    1 
  12 Arsenal                   9    3    2    4   11   10   11    1 
  13 West Ham Utd.             9    3    2    4    5   10   11   -5 
  14 Aston Villa               9    2    3    4   10   13    9   -3 
  15 Wimbledon                 9    2    3    4    7   12    9   -5 
  16 Sheffield Wed.            9    2    3    4   11   17    9   -6 
  17 Q.P.R.                    9    1    4    4   12   16    7   -4 
  18 Ipswich Town              8    2    1    5    9   15    7   -6 
  19 Crystal Palace            9    1    4    4    6   13    7   -7 
  20 Leicester City            9    1    3    5    9   18    6   -9 
  21 Coventry City             8    1    3    4    8   18    6  -10 
  22 Everton                   9    0    3    6    7   20    3  -13 

Tonight:

	Coventry v Ipswich	Sounds poor on paper but after last week 
				(Coventry v Leicester) could be entertaining


Next weekend:

Arsenal              - Chelsea
Aston Villa          - Norwich City
Blackburn Rovers     - Liverpool
Crystal Palace       - Newcastle United
Everton              - Coventry City
Ipswich Town         - Sheffield Wednesday
Leeds United         - Tottenham Hotspur
Leicester City       - Southampton
Manchester United    - West Ham United
Nottingham Forest    - Wimbledon
Queen's Park Rangers - Manchester City


Al
13.582Week 10ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKMon Oct 17 1994 13:0445
	Mon 10th

       Coventry           2  -  0    Ipswich Town

	Sat 15th

       Arsenal            3  -  1    Chelsea            
       Aston Villa        1  -  1    Norwich City       
       Blackburn Rovers   3  -  2    Liverpool          
       Crystal Palace     0  -  1    Newcastle Utd.     
       Everton            0  -  2    Coventry City      
       Leeds Utd.         1  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Leicester City     4  -  3    Southampton        
       Man. Utd.          1  -  0    West Ham Utd.      
       Q.P.R.             1  -  2    Man. City          

	Sun 16th

       Ipswich Town       1  -  2    Sheffield Wed.     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Newcastle Utd.           10    8    2    0   27    9   26   18 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         10    6    3    1   21    8   21   13 
   3 Nott'm Forest             9    6    3    0   20   10   21   10 
   4 Man. Utd.                10    6    1    3   15    7   19    8 
   5 Liverpool                 9    5    2    2   21   10   17   11 
   6 Norwich City             10    4    4    2    8    8   16    0 
   7 Chelsea                   9    5    0    4   18   13   15    5 
   8 Man. City                10    4    3    3   16   14   15    2 
   9 Leeds Utd.               10    4    3    3   13   11   15    2 
  10 Southampton              10    4    3    3   17   17   15    0 
  11 Arsenal                  10    4    2    4   14   11   14    3 
  12 Tottenham Hotspur        10    4    2    4   16   18   14   -2 
  13 Sheffield Wed.           10    3    3    4   13   18   12   -5 
  14 Coventry City            10    3    3    4   12   18   12   -6 
  15 West Ham Utd.            10    3    2    5    5   11   11   -6 
  16 Aston Villa              10    2    4    4   11   14   10   -3 
  17 Wimbledon                 9    2    3    4    7   12    9   -5 
  18 Leicester City           10    2    3    5   13   21    9   -8 
  19 Q.P.R.                   10    1    4    5   13   18    7   -5 
  20 Crystal Palace           10    1    4    5    6   14    7   -8 
  21 Ipswich Town             10    2    1    7   10   19    7   -9 
  22 Everton                  10    0    3    7    7   22    3  -15 
13.583Results Round-Up :GENIE::BOLGERJerry Bolger.Mon Oct 31 1994 13:3384
Premiership :
    
Mon 24th:          Leeds 2             Leicester 1

Sat 29th:          Coventry 1          Manchester C. 0
                   Everton 1           Arsenal 1            
                   Ipswich 1           Liverpool 3
                   Leicester 0         Crystal Palace 1
                   Manchester U. 2     Newcastle 0
                   Notts Forest 0      Blackburn 2
                   QPR 2               Aston Villa 0
                   Sheffield Wed. 1    Chelsea 1
                   Southampton 1       Leeds 3
                   Tottenham 3         West Ham 1

Sun 30th:          Wimbledon 1         Norwich 0

		                P  W  D  L Pts
            Newcastle U.       12  9  2  1  29
            Notts Forest       12  8  3  1  27
            Manchester U.      12  8  1  3  25
            Blackburn          12  7  3  2  24
            Liverpool          11  7  2  2  23
            Leeds U.           12  6  3  3  21
            Chelsea            11  6  1  4  19
            Norwich            12  5  4  3  19
            Manchester C.      12  5  3  4  18
            Arsenal            12  5  3  4  18
           *Tottenham          12  5  2  5  17
            Southampton        12  4  3  5  15
            Coventry           12  4  3  5  15
            West Ham U.        12  4  2  6  14
            Sheffield Wed.     12  3  4  5  13
            Crystal Palace     12  3  4  5  13
            Wimbledon          12  3  3  6  12
            QPR                12  2  4  6  10
            Aston Villa        12  2  4  6  10
            Leicester          12  2  3  7   9
            Ipswich            12  2  1  9   7
            Everton            12  0  4  8   4
            * Tottenham to be deducted six points

    
English First Division:
    
Sat:               Bolton 3            Watford 0
                   Bristol C. 1        Portsmouth 1
                   Burnley 2           Notts County 1
                   Derby 2             Charlton 2
                   Luton 0             Barnsley 1
                   Middlesbro' 3       Swindon 1
                   Millwall 2          Sheffield U. 1
                   Southend 0          Grimsby 0
                   Sunderland 0        Oldham 0
                   Tranmere 1          Port Vale 1
                   West Brom 2         Reading 0            
Sun:               Stoke 1             Wolverhampton 1
                   
English First Div:              P  W  D  L Pts
            Wolverhampton W.   14  8  4  2  28
            Middlesborough     14  8  3  3  27
            Tranmere           14  7  3  4  24
            Reading            14  7  3  4  24
            Swindon            14  6  3  5  21
            Charlton           14  5  5  4  20
            Bolton             14  5  5  4  20
            Sunderland         14  4  8  2  20
            Barnsley           14  5  5  4  20
            Luton              14  5  4  5  19
            Southend           14  5  4  5  19
            Stoke              14  5  4  5  19
            Grimsby            14  4  6  4  18
            Oldham             14  5  3  6  18
            Portsmouth         14  4  6  4  18
            Derby              14  4  5  5  17
            Watford            14  4  5  5  17
            Burnley            14  4  5  5  17
            Sheffield Utd.     14  4  4  6  16
            Port Vale          14  4  4  6  16
            Bristol C.         14  4  4  6  16
            Millwall           14  3  6  5  15
            WBA                14  3  4  7  13
            Notts County       14  1  5  8   8

13.584Up to date!!ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKWed Nov 02 1994 14:5886
I was off last week.

Here's a complete round up of results since my last entry.

	Mon 17th

       Nott'm Forest      3  -  1    Wimbledon          


	Sat 22nd

       Aston Villa        0  -  2    Nott'm Forest      
       Crystal Palace     1  -  0    Everton            
       Liverpool          3  -  0    Wimbledon          
       Man. City          5  -  2    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Newcastle Utd.     2  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Norwich City       4  -  2    Q.P.R.             
       West Ham Utd.      2  -  0    Southampton        

	Sun 23rd

       Arsenal            2  -  1    Coventry City      
       Blackburn Rovers   2  -  4    Man. Utd.          
       Chelsea            2  -  0    Ipswich Town       

	Mon 24th

       Leeds Utd.         2  -  1    Leicester City

	Sat 29th    

       Coventry City      1  -  0    Man. City          
       Everton            1  -  1    Arsenal            
       Ipswich Town       1  -  3    Liverpool          
       Leicester City     0  -  1    Crystal Palace     
       Man. Utd.          2  -  0    Newcastle Utd.     
       Nott'm Forest      0  -  2    Blackburn Rovers   
       Q.P.R.             2  -  0    Aston Villa        
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  1    Chelsea            
       Southampton        1  -  3    Leeds Utd.         
       Tottenham Hotspur  3  -  1    West Ham Utd.      

	Sun 30th

       Wimbledon          1  -  0    Norwich City       

	Mon 31st

       Q.P.R.             2  -  1    Liverpool

	Tue 1st Nov          

       Everton            1  -  0    West Ham Utd.      
       Ipswich Town       2  -  0    Leeds Utd.         


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Newcastle Utd.           12    9    2    1   29   12   29   17 
   2 Nott'm Forest            12    8    3    1   25   13   27   12 
   3 Man. Utd.                12    8    1    3   21    9   25   12 
   4 Blackburn Rovers         12    7    3    2   25   12   24   13 
   5 Liverpool                12    7    2    3   28   13   23   15 
   6 Leeds Utd.               13    6    3    4   18   15   21    3 
   7 Chelsea                  11    6    1    4   21   14   19    7 
   8 Norwich City             12    5    4    3   12   11   19    1 
   9 Man. City                12    5    3    4   21   17   18    4 
  10 Arsenal                  12    5    3    4   17   13   18    4 
  11 Tottenham Hotspur        12    5    2    5   21   24   17   -3 
  12 Southampton              12    4    3    5   18   22   15   -4 
  13 Coventry City            12    4    3    5   14   20   15   -6 
  14 West Ham Utd.            13    4    2    7    8   15   14   -7 
  15 Q.P.R.                   13    3    4    6   19   23   13   -4 
  16 Sheffield Wed.           12    3    4    5   15   21   13   -6 
  17 Crystal Palace           12    3    4    5    8   14   13   -6 
  18 Wimbledon                12    3    3    6    9   18   12   -9 
  19 Aston Villa              12    2    4    6   11   18   10   -7 
  20 Ipswich Town             13    3    1    9   13   24   10  -11 
  21 Leicester City           12    2    3    7   14   24    9  -10 
  22 Everton                  13    1    4    8    9   24    7  -15 

Tonight: (I think - due to European Commitments)

Coventry City        - Crystal Palace
Sheffield Wednesday  - Blackburn Rovers
Southampton          - Norwich City
13.585Midweek games concludedADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKThu Nov 03 1994 13:0229
       Coventry City      1  -  4    Crystal Palace     
       Sheffield Wed.     0  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   
       Southampton        1  -  1    Norwich City       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Newcastle Utd.           12    9    2    1   29   12   29   17 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         13    8    3    2   26   12   27   14 
   3 Nott'm Forest            12    8    3    1   25   13   27   12 
   4 Man. Utd.                12    8    1    3   21    9   25   12 
   5 Liverpool                12    7    2    3   28   13   23   15 
   6 Leeds Utd.               13    6    3    4   18   15   21    3 
   7 Norwich City             13    5    5    3   13   12   20    1 
   8 Chelsea                  11    6    1    4   21   14   19    7 
   9 Man. City                12    5    3    4   21   17   18    4 
  10 Arsenal                  12    5    3    4   17   13   18    4 
  11 Tottenham Hotspur        12    5    2    5   21   24   17   -3 
  12 Crystal Palace           13    4    4    5   12   15   16   -3 
  13 Southampton              13    4    4    5   19   23   16   -4 
  14 Coventry City            13    4    3    6   15   24   15   -9 
  15 West Ham Utd.            13    4    2    7    8   15   14   -7 
  16 Q.P.R.                   13    3    4    6   19   23   13   -4 
  17 Sheffield Wed.           13    3    4    6   15   22   13   -7 
  18 Wimbledon                12    3    3    6    9   18   12   -9 
  19 Aston Villa              12    2    4    6   11   18   10   -7 
  20 Ipswich Town             13    3    1    9   13   24   10  -11 
  21 Leicester City           12    2    3    7   14   24    9  -10 
  22 Everton                  13    1    4    8    9   24    7  -15 
13.586ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKMon Nov 07 1994 17:4542
	Sat 5th

       Blackburn Rovers   2  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Crystal Palace     3  -  0    Ipswich Town       
       Leeds Utd.         3  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Liverpool          1  -  0    Nott'm Forest      
       Man. City          3  -  3    Southampton        
       Newcastle Utd.     2  -  1    Q.P.R.             
       Norwich City       0  -  0    Everton            
       West Ham Utd.      1  -  0    Leicester City     

	Sun 6th

       Arsenal            0  -  0    Sheffield Wed.     
       Aston Villa        1  -  2    Man. Utd.          
       Chelsea            2  -  2    Coventry City      


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Newcastle Utd.           13   10    2    1   31   13   32   18 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         14    9    3    2   28   12   30   16 
   3 Man. Utd.                13    9    1    3   23   10   28   13 
   4 Nott'm Forest            13    8    3    2   25   14   27   11 
   5 Liverpool                13    8    2    3   29   13   26   16 
   6 Leeds Utd.               14    7    3    4   21   16   24    5 
   7 Norwich City             14    5    6    3   13   12   21    1 
   8 Chelsea                  12    6    2    4   23   16   20    7 
   9 Man. City                13    5    4    4   24   20   19    4 
  10 Arsenal                  13    5    4    4   17   13   19    4 
  11 Crystal Palace           14    5    4    5   15   15   19    0 
  12 Southampton              14    4    5    5   22   26   17   -4 
  13 Tottenham Hotspur        13    5    2    6   21   26   17   -5 
  14 West Ham Utd.            14    5    2    7    9   15   17   -6 
  15 Coventry City            14    4    4    6   17   26   16   -9 
  16 Sheffield Wed.           14    3    5    6   15   22   14   -7 
  17 Q.P.R.                   14    3    4    7   20   25   13   -5 
  18 Wimbledon                13    3    3    7   10   21   12  -11 
  19 Aston Villa              13    2    4    7   12   20   10   -8 
  20 Ipswich Town             14    3    1   10   13   27   10  -14 
  21 Leicester City           13    2    3    8   14   25    9  -11 
  22 Everton                  14    1    5    8    9   24    8  -15 
13.587Last weekends resultsADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKTue Nov 22 1994 17:4545
	Sat 19th

       Coventry City      1  -  0    Norwich City       
       Ipswich Town       1  -  3    Blackburn Rovers   
       Man. Utd.          3  -  0    Crystal Palace     
       Nott'm Forest      0  -  1    Chelsea            
       Q.P.R.             3  -  2    Leeds Utd.         
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  0    West Ham Utd.      
       Southampton        1  -  0    Arsenal            
       Tottenham Hotspur  3  -  4    Aston Villa        
       Wimbledon          3  -  2    Newcastle Utd.     

	Sun 20th

       Leicester City     0  -  1    Man. City          

	mon 21st

       Everton            2  -  0    Liverpool          


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                15   11    1    3   31   10   34   21 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         15   10    3    2   31   13   33   18 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           15   10    3    2   33   16   33   17 
   4 Liverpool                15    9    2    4   32   16   29   16 
   5 Nott'm Forest            15    8    4    3   25   15   28   10 
   6 Leeds Utd.               15    7    3    5   23   19   24    4 
   7 Chelsea                  14    7    2    5   25   19   23    6 
   8 Man. City                15    6    4    5   25   25   22    0 
   9 Norwich City             15    5    6    4   13   13   21    0 
  10 Southampton              15    5    5    5   23   26   20   -3 
  11 Arsenal                  14    5    4    5   17   14   19    3 
  12 Crystal Palace           15    5    4    6   15   18   19   -3 
  13 Coventry City            15    5    4    6   18   26   19   -8 
  14 Wimbledon                15    5    3    7   17   26   18   -9 
  15 Tottenham Hotspur        14    5    2    7   24   30   17   -6 
  16 Sheffield Wed.           15    4    5    6   16   22   17   -6 
  17 West Ham Utd.            15    5    2    8    9   16   17   -7 
  18 Q.P.R.                   15    4    4    7   23   27   16   -4 
  19 Aston Villa              15    3    4    8   19   27   13   -8 
  20 Everton                  15    2    5    8   11   24   11  -13 
  21 Ipswich Town             15    3    1   11   14   30   10  -16 
  22 Leicester City           14    2    3    9   14   26    9  -12 
13.588Midweek gamesADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKFri Nov 25 1994 19:4528
       Leicester City     2  -  1    Arsenal            
       Tottenham Hotspur  0  -  0    Chelsea            


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Man. Utd.                15   11    1    3   31   10   34   21 
   2 Blackburn Rovers         15   10    3    2   31   13   33   18 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           15   10    3    2   33   16   33   17 
   4 Liverpool                15    9    2    4   32   16   29   16 
   5 Nott'm Forest            15    8    4    3   25   15   28   10 
   6 Chelsea                  15    7    3    5   25   19   24    6 
   7 Leeds Utd.               15    7    3    5   23   19   24    4 
   8 Man. City                15    6    4    5   25   25   22    0 
   9 Norwich City             15    5    6    4   13   13   21    0 
  10 Southampton              15    5    5    5   23   26   20   -3 
  11 Arsenal                  15    5    4    6   18   16   19    2 
  12 Crystal Palace           15    5    4    6   15   18   19   -3 
  13 Coventry City            15    5    4    6   18   26   19   -8 
  14 Tottenham Hotspur        15    5    3    7   24   30   18   -6 
  15 Wimbledon                15    5    3    7   17   26   18   -9 
  16 Sheffield Wed.           15    4    5    6   16   22   17   -6 
  17 West Ham Utd.            15    5    2    8    9   16   17   -7 
  18 Q.P.R.                   15    4    4    7   23   27   16   -4 
  19 Aston Villa              15    3    4    8   19   27   13   -8 
  20 Leicester City           15    3    3    9   16   27   12  -11 
  21 Everton                  15    2    5    8   11   24   11  -13 
  22 Ipswich Town             15    3    1   11   14   30   10  -16 
13.589Week 16ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKMon Nov 28 1994 12:5942
	Sat 26th

       Arsenal            0  -  0    Man. Utd.          
       Blackburn Rovers   4  -  0    Q.P.R.             
       Chelsea            0  -  1    Everton            
       Crystal Palace     0  -  0    Southampton        
       Leeds Utd.         1  -  0    Nott'm Forest      
       Liverpool          1  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Man. City          2  -  0    Wimbledon          
       Newcastle Utd.     1  -  1    Ipswich Town       
       Norwich City       2  -  1    Leicester City     
       West Ham Utd.      0  -  1    Coventry City      

	Sun 27th

       Aston Villa        1  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         16   11    3    2   35   13   36   22 
   2 Man. Utd.                16   11    2    3   31   10   35   21 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           16   10    4    2   34   17   34   17 
   4 Liverpool                16    9    3    4   33   17   30   16 
   5 Nott'm Forest            16    8    4    4   25   16   28    9 
   6 Leeds Utd.               16    8    3    5   24   19   27    5 
   7 Man. City                16    7    4    5   27   25   25    2 
   8 Chelsea                  16    7    3    6   25   20   24    5 
   9 Norwich City             16    6    6    4   15   14   24    1 
  10 Coventry City            16    6    4    6   19   26   22   -7 
  11 Southampton              16    5    6    5   23   26   21   -3 
  12 Arsenal                  16    5    5    6   18   16   20    2 
  13 Crystal Palace           16    5    5    6   15   18   20   -3 
  14 Tottenham Hotspur        16    5    4    7   25   31   19   -6 
  15 Sheffield Wed.           16    4    6    6   17   23   18   -6 
  16 Wimbledon                16    5    3    8   17   28   18  -11 
  17 West Ham Utd.            16    5    2    9    9   17   17   -8 
  18 Q.P.R.                   16    4    4    8   23   31   16   -8 
  19 Aston Villa              16    3    5    8   20   28   14   -8 
  20 Everton                  16    3    5    8   12   24   14  -12 
  21 Leicester City           16    3    3   10   17   29   12  -12 
  22 Ipswich Town             16    3    2   11   15   31   11  -16 
13.590Week 17ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKMon Dec 05 1994 19:0059
	Sat 3rd Dec '94

       Coventry City      1  -  1    Liverpool          
       Ipswich Town       1  -  2    Man. City          
       Leicester City     1  -  1    Aston Villa        
       Man. Utd.          1  -  0    Norwich City       
       Nott'm Forest      2  -  2    Arsenal            
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  0    Crystal Palace     
       Southampton        0  -  1    Chelsea            
       Tottenham Hotspur  4  -  2    Newcastle Utd.     
       Wimbledon          0  -  3    Blackburn Rovers   

	Sun 4th

       Q.P.R.             2  -  1    West Ham Utd.      


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         17   12    3    2   38   13   39   25 
   2 Man. Utd.                17   12    2    3   32   10   38   22 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           17   10    4    3   36   21   34   15 
   4 Liverpool                17    9    4    4   34   18   31   16 
   5 Nott'm Forest            17    8    5    4   27   18   29    9 
   6 Man. City                17    8    4    5   29   26   28    3 
   7 Chelsea                  17    8    3    6   26   20   27    6 
   8 Leeds Utd.               16    8    3    5   24   19   27    5 
   9 Norwich City             17    6    6    5   15   15   24    0 
  10 Coventry City            17    6    5    6   20   27   23   -7 
  11 Tottenham Hotspur        17    6    4    7   29   33   22   -4 
  12 Arsenal                  17    5    6    6   20   18   21    2 
  13 Southampton              17    5    6    6   23   27   21   -4 
  14 Sheffield Wed.           17    5    6    6   18   23   21   -5 
  15 Crystal Palace           17    5    5    7   15   19   20   -4 
  16 Q.P.R.                   17    5    4    8   25   32   19   -7 
  17 Wimbledon                17    5    3    9   17   31   18  -14 
  18 West Ham Utd.            17    5    2   10   10   19   17   -9 
  19 Aston Villa              17    3    6    8   21   29   15   -8 
  20 Everton                  16    3    5    8   12   24   14  -12 
  21 Leicester City           17    3    4   10   18   30   13  -12 
  22 Ipswich Town             17    3    2   12   16   33   11  -17 
	
Tonight:

Everton v Leeds

Next weekend:

Aston Villa          - Everton
Blackburn Rovers     - Southampton
Leeds United         - West Ham United
Liverpool            - Crystal Palace
Manchester City      - Arsenal
Newcastle United     - Leicester City
Norwich City         - Chelsea
Nottingham Forest    - Ipswich Town
Queen's Park Rangers - Manchester United
Tottenham Hotspur    - Sheffield Wednesday
Wimbledon            - Coventry City
13.591Goalscoring AmendmentsESSB::BLONGPREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1993 &amp; 1994Thu Dec 08 1994 21:3118
13.592Huh - is this like "instant replay"?AIMTEC::WICKS_ABrazil v Italy - I was there!Thu Dec 08 1994 22:519
    brian,
    
    who is this guy called "own goal" and what committee decides this?
    
    Maybe they'll go back and reexamine the 3rd goal in the 66 final next?
    
    regards
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
13.593WARNUT::PICKERINGSSimon PickeringFri Dec 09 1994 12:235
    Well some very dubious goals get creditted to strikers. Take Fowler's
    against Forest. If Fowler had been a Forest defender when the ball hit
    him, Redknapp would have claimed it.
    
    Mind you, I did like Cantona's goal against Galatasary:-
13.594FORTY2::ABRAHAMSFri Dec 09 1994 12:561
does this modify fantasy league totals? 
13.595REOSV2::STRATFORDSFri Dec 09 1994 13:135
    re -1
    
    I bloody well hope not ;-(
    
    Stuart
13.596Sky RulesESSB::BLONGPREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1993 &amp; 1994Fri Dec 09 1994 13:204
13.597You're in the ClearAYOV27::FW_TEMP01John Hussey - Exiled in jocko landFri Dec 09 1994 13:417
Re. 594

Fantasy League totals are not affected (at least weren't in the past) if you're
talking about the Telegraph/Fantasy League Ltd ones.  

I think this is due to the amount of work involved in check who was in whose 
team at the time.
13.598Week 18ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKMon Dec 12 1994 12:5859
	Sat 10th

       Aston Villa        0  -  0    Everton            
       Blackburn Rovers   3  -  2    Southampton        
       Leeds Utd.         2  -  2    West Ham Utd.      
       Newcastle Utd.     3  -  1    Leicester City     
       Norwich City       3  -  0    Chelsea            
       Nott'm Forest      4  -  1    Ipswich Town       
       Q.P.R.             2  -  3    Man. Utd.          
       Tottenham Hotspur  3  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Wimbledon          2  -  0    Coventry City      

	Sun 11th

       Liverpool          0  -  0    Crystal Palace     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         18   13    3    2   41   15   42   26 
   2 Man. Utd.                18   13    2    3   35   12   41   23 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           18   11    4    3   39   22   37   17 
   4 Liverpool                18    9    5    4   34   18   32   16 
   5 Nott'm Forest            18    9    5    4   31   19   32   12 
   6 Man. City                17    8    4    5   29   26   28    3 
   7 Leeds Utd.               18    8    4    6   26   24   28    2 
   8 Chelsea                  18    8    3    7   26   23   27    3 
   9 Norwich City             18    7    6    5   18   15   27    3 
  10 Tottenham Hotspur        18    7    4    7   32   34   25   -2 
  11 Coventry City            18    6    5    7   20   29   23   -9 
  12 Arsenal                  17    5    6    6   20   18   21    2 
  13 Crystal Palace           18    5    6    7   15   19   21   -4 
  14 Southampton              18    5    6    7   25   30   21   -5 
  15 Sheffield Wed.           18    5    6    7   19   26   21   -7 
  16 Wimbledon                18    6    3    9   19   31   21  -12 
  17 Q.P.R.                   18    5    4    9   27   35   19   -8 
  18 Everton                  18    4    6    8   15   24   18   -9 
  19 West Ham Utd.            18    5    3   10   12   21   18   -9 
  20 Aston Villa              18    3    7    8   21   29   16   -8 
  21 Leicester City           18    3    4   11   19   33   13  -14 
  22 Ipswich Town             18    3    2   13   17   37   11  -20 

Tonight:

Manchester City      - Arsenal

Next weekend:

Arsenal              - Leeds United
Chelsea              - Liverpool
Coventry City        - Newcastle United
Crystal Palace       - Norwich City
Everton              - Tottenham Hotspur
Ipswich Town         - Wimbledon
Leicester City       - Blackburn Rovers
Manchester United    - Nottingham Forest
Sheffield Wednesday  - Queen's Park Rangers
Southampton          - Aston Villa
West Ham United      - Manchester City
13.599Up to dateADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKTue Jan 17 1995 17:52123
	Fri 16 Dec

       Ipswich Town       2  -  2    Wimbledon          

	Sat 17 Dec

       Arsenal            1  -  3    Leeds Utd.         
       Coventry City      0  -  0    Newcastle Utd.     
       Crystal Palace     0  -  1    Norwich City       
       Everton            0  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Leicester City     0  -  0    Blackburn Rovers   
       Man. Utd.          1  -  2    Nott'm Forest      
       Sheffield Wed.     0  -  2    Q.P.R.             
       West Ham Utd.      3  -  0    Man. City          

	Sun 18 Dec

       Chelsea            0  -  0    Liverpool          

	Mon 19 Dec

       Southampton        2  -  1    Aston Villa        

	Mon 26 Dec

       Arsenal            0  -  0    Aston Villa        
       Chelsea            2  -  3    Man. Utd.          
       Coventry City      0  -  0    Nott'm Forest      
       Crystal Palace     0  -  0    Q.P.R.             
       Everton            1  -  4    Sheffield Wed.     
       Leeds Utd.         0  -  0    Newcastle Utd.     
       Leicester City     1  -  2    Liverpool          
       Man. City          1  -  3    Blackburn Rovers   
       Norwich City       0  -  2    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Southampton        2  -  3    Wimbledon          
       West Ham Utd.      1  -  1    Ipswich Town       

	Tues 27 Dec

       Nott'm Forest      1  -  0    Norwich City       
       Tottenham Hotspur  0  -  0    Crystal Palace     

	Wed 28 Dec

       Aston Villa        3  -  0    Chelsea
       Blackburn Rovers   Postponed  Leeds Utd            
       Ipswich Town       0  -  2    Arsenal            
       Liverpool          2  -  0    Man. City          
       Man. Utd.          1  -  1    Leicester City     
       Q.P.R.             2  -  2    Southampton        
       Sheffield Wed.     5  -  1    Coventry City      
       Wimbledon          1  -  0    West Ham Utd.      

	Sat 31 Dec 94

       Arsenal            1  -  3    Q.P.R.             
       Chelsea            1  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Coventry City      0  -  4    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Crystal Palace     0  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   
       Everton            4  -  1    Ipswich Town       
       Leeds Utd.         0  -  2    Liverpool          
       Leicester City     0  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Man. City          2  -  2    Aston Villa        
       Norwich City       2  -  1    Newcastle Utd.     
       Southampton        2  -  2    Man. Utd.          
       West Ham Utd.      3  -  1    Nott'm Forest      

	Mon 2 Jan 95

       Aston Villa        0  -  0    Leeds Utd.         
       Blackburn Rovers   4  -  2    West Ham Utd.      
       Ipswich Town       4  -  1    Leicester City     
       Liverpool          4  -  0    Norwich City       
       Newcastle Utd.     0  -  0    Man. City          
       Nott'm Forest      1  -  0    Crystal Palace     
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  1    Southampton        
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  0    Arsenal            
       Wimbledon          2  -  1    Everton            

	Tues 3 Jan 95

       Man. Utd.          2  -  0    Coventry City      
       Q.P.R.             Postponed  Chelsea

	Sat 14 Jan 95

       Arsenal            1  -  1    Everton            
       Aston Villa        2  -  1    Q.P.R.             
       Blackburn Rovers   3  -  0    Nott'm Forest      
       Chelsea            1  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Crystal Palace     2  -  0    Leicester City     
       Leeds Utd.         0  -  0    Southampton        
       Liverpool          0  -  1    Ipswich Town       
       Man. City          0  -  0    Coventry City      
       Norwich City       1  -  2    Wimbledon          
       West Ham Utd.      1  -  2    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Newcastle Utd.     1  -  1    Man. Utd.          


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         23   17    4    2   52   18   55   34 
   2 Man. Utd.                24   15    5    4   45   20   50   25 
   3 Liverpool                24   13    6    5   44   20   45   24 
   4 Nott'm Forest            24   12    6    6   36   26   42   10 
   5 Newcastle Utd.           23   11    8    4   40   25   41   15 
   6 Tottenham Hotspur        24   11    6    7   41   35   39    6 
   7 Wimbledon                24   10    5    9   30   37   35   -7 
   8 Leeds Utd.               23    9    7    7   29   27   34    2 
   9 Norwich City             24    9    6    9   22   25   33   -3 
  10 Sheffield Wed.           24    8    8    8   31   32   32   -1 
  11 Man. City                24    8    7    9   33   38   31   -5 
  12 Chelsea                  23    8    6    9   30   31   30   -1 
  13 Arsenal                  24    7    8    9   27   27   29    0 
  14 Southampton              24    6   10    8   34   39   28   -5 
  15 Q.P.R.                   23    7    6   10   35   40   27   -5 
  16 Crystal Palace           24    6    8   10   17   22   26   -5 
  17 Coventry City            24    6    8   10   21   40   26  -19 
  18 Aston Villa              24    5   10    9   29   34   25   -5 
  19 West Ham Utd.            24    7    4   13   22   30   25   -8 
  20 Everton                  23    5    8   10   22   32   23  -10 
  21 Ipswich Town             24    5    4   15   26   47   19  -21 
  22 Leicester City           24    3    6   15   22   43   15  -21 
13.600Week 25ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKTue Jan 24 1995 18:4141
	Sat 21st Jan

       Coventry City      0  -  1    Arsenal            
       Everton            3  -  1    Crystal Palace     
       Ipswich Town       2  -  2    Chelsea            
       Nott'm Forest      1  -  2    Aston Villa        
       Sheffield Wed.     0  -  0    Newcastle Utd.     

	Sun 22nd

       Man. Utd.          1  -  0    Blackburn Rovers   

	Mon 23rd

       West Ham Utd.      0  -  2    Sheffield Wed.     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         24   17    4    3   52   19   55   33 
   2 Man. Utd.                25   16    5    4   46   20   53   26 
   3 Liverpool                24   13    6    5   44   20   45   24 
   4 Newcastle Utd.           24   11    9    4   40   25   42   15 
   5 Nott'm Forest            25   12    6    7   37   28   42    9 
   6 Tottenham Hotspur        24   11    6    7   41   35   39    6 
   7 Sheffield Wed.           26    9    9    8   33   32   36    1 
   8 Wimbledon                24   10    5    9   30   37   35   -7 
   9 Leeds Utd.               23    9    7    7   29   27   34    2 
  10 Norwich City             24    9    6    9   22   25   33   -3 
  11 Arsenal                  25    8    8    9   28   27   32    1 
  12 Chelsea                  24    8    7    9   32   33   31   -1 
  13 Man. City                24    8    7    9   33   38   31   -5 
  14 Aston Villa              25    6   10    9   31   35   28   -4 
  15 Southampton              24    6   10    8   34   39   28   -5 
  16 Q.P.R.                   23    7    6   10   35   40   27   -5 
  17 Crystal Palace           25    6    8   11   18   25   26   -7 
  18 Everton                  24    6    8   10   25   33   26   -8 
  19 Coventry City            25    6    8   11   21   41   26  -20 
  20 West Ham Utd.            25    7    4   14   22   32   25  -10 
  21 Ipswich Town             25    5    5   15   28   49   20  -21 
  22 Leicester City           24    3    6   15   22   43   15  -21 
13.601Thanks from Littleton MATNPUBS::NAZZAROUMass - #1 again!!!Wed Jan 25 1995 23:546
    Is there a posted list of the Premier League's leading scorers that
    someone can place in this note?  My son wanted to know which players
    had the most goals.  I guessed Shearer, then LeTissier and Fowler, but
    I'm certainly not sure.
    
    NAZZ
13.602ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKMon Jan 30 1995 13:0644
	Tues 24 Jan

       Arsenal            1  -  1    Southampton        
       Leeds Utd.         4  -  0    Q.P.R.             
       Liverpool          0  -  0    Everton            

	Wed 25 Jan

       Aston Villa        1  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Chelsea            0  -  2    Nott'm Forest      
       Crystal Palace     1  -  1    Man. Utd.          
       Man. City          0  -  1    Leicester City     
       Newcastle Utd.     2  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Norwich City       2  -  2    Coventry City      

	Sat 28 Jan

       Blackburn Rovers   4  -  1    Ipswich Town       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         25   18    4    3   56   20   58   36 
   2 Man. Utd.                26   16    6    4   47   21   54   26 
   3 Liverpool                25   13    7    5   44   20   46   24 
   4 Newcastle Utd.           25   12    9    4   42   26   45   16 
   5 Nott'm Forest            26   13    6    7   39   28   45   11 
   6 Tottenham Hotspur        25   11    6    8   41   36   39    5 
   7 Leeds Utd.               24   10    7    7   33   27   37    6 
   8 Sheffield Wed.           26    9    9    8   33   32   36    1 
   9 Wimbledon                25   10    5   10   31   39   35   -8 
  10 Norwich City             25    9    7    9   24   27   34   -3 
  11 Arsenal                  26    8    9    9   29   28   33    1 
  12 Aston Villa              26    7   10    9   32   35   31   -3 
  13 Chelsea                  25    8    7   10   32   35   31   -3 
  14 Man. City                25    8    7   10   33   39   31   -6 
  15 Southampton              25    6   11    8   35   40   29   -5 
  16 Crystal Palace           26    6    9   11   19   26   27   -7 
  17 Everton                  25    6    9   10   25   33   27   -8 
  18 Q.P.R.                   24    7    6   11   35   44   27   -9 
  19 Coventry City            26    6    9   11   23   43   27  -20 
  20 West Ham Utd.            25    7    4   14   22   32   25  -10 
  21 Ipswich Town             26    5    5   16   29   53   20  -24 
  22 Leicester City           25    4    6   15   23   43   18  -20 
13.603Week 27ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKFri Feb 10 1995 20:1561
        Wed 1st Feb

       Blackburn Rovers   1  -  1    Leeds Utd.         
       Newcastle Utd.     2  -  0    Everton            

	Sat 4th Feb

       Coventry City      2  -  2    Chelsea            
       Everton            2  -  1    Norwich City       
       Ipswich Town       0  -  2    Crystal Palace     
       Leicester City     1  -  2    West Ham Utd.      
       Man. Utd.          1  -  0    Aston Villa        
       Nott'm Forest      1  -  1    Liverpool          
       Q.P.R.             3  -  0    Newcastle Utd.     
       Sheffield Wed.     3  -  1    Arsenal            
       Southampton        2  -  2    Man. City          
       Wimbledon          0  -  0    Leeds Utd.         

	Sun 5th Feb

       Tottenham Hotspur  3  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         27   18    5    4   58   24   59   34 
   2 Man. Utd.                27   17    6    4   48   21   57   27 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           27   13    9    5   44   29   48   15 
   4 Liverpool                26   13    8    5   45   21   47   24 
   5 Nott'm Forest            27   13    7    7   40   29   46   11 
   6 Tottenham Hotspur        26   12    6    8   44   37   42    7 
   7 Leeds Utd.               26   10    9    7   34   28   39    6 
   8 Sheffield Wed.           27   10    9    8   36   33   39    3 
   9 Wimbledon                26   10    6   10   31   39   36   -8 
  10 Norwich City             26    9    7   10   25   29   34   -4 
  11 Arsenal                  27    8    9   10   30   31   33   -1 
  12 Chelsea                  26    8    8   10   34   37   32   -3 
  13 Man. City                26    8    8   10   35   41   32   -6 
  14 Aston Villa              27    7   10   10   32   36   31   -4 
  15 Southampton              26    6   12    8   37   42   30   -5 
  16 Crystal Palace           27    7    9   11   21   26   30   -5 
  17 Q.P.R.                   25    8    6   11   38   44   30   -6 
  18 Everton                  27    7    9   11   27   36   30   -9 
  19 West Ham Utd.            26    8    4   14   24   33   28   -9 
  20 Coventry City            27    6   10   11   25   45   28  -20 
  21 Ipswich Town             27    5    5   17   29   55   20  -26 
  22 Leicester City           26    4    6   16   24   45   18  -21 

This weekend's fixtures

Arsenal              - Leicester City
Aston Villa          - Wimbledon
Blackburn Rovers     - Sheffield Wednesday
Chelsea              - Tottenham Hotspur
Crystal Palace       - Coventry City
Leeds United         - Ipswich Town
Liverpool            - Queen's Park Rangers
Manchester City      - Manchester United
Newcastle United     - Nottingham Forest
Norwich City         - Southampton
West Ham United      - Everton
13.604Week 28ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKMon Feb 13 1995 14:4741
	Sat 11th

       Arsenal            1  -  1    Leicester City     
       Aston Villa        7  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Chelsea            1  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Crystal Palace     0  -  2    Coventry City      
       Leeds Utd.         Postponed  Ipswich Town
       Liverpool          1  -  1    Q.P.R.             
       Man. City          0  -  3    Man. Utd.          
       Newcastle Utd.     2  -  1    Nott'm Forest      
       Norwich City       2  -  2    Southampton        

	Sun 12th

       Blackburn Rovers   3  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         28   19    5    4   61   25   62   36 
   2 Man. Utd.                28   18    6    4   51   21   60   30 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           28   14    9    5   46   30   51   16 
   4 Liverpool                27   13    9    5   46   22   48   24 
   5 Nott'm Forest            28   13    7    8   41   31   46   10 
   6 Tottenham Hotspur        27   12    7    8   45   38   43    7 
   7 Leeds Utd.               26   10    9    7   34   28   39    6 
   8 Sheffield Wed.           28   10    9    9   37   36   39    1 
   9 Wimbledon                27   10    6   11   32   46   36  -14 
  10 Norwich City             27    9    8   10   27   31   35   -4 
  11 Aston Villa              28    8   10   10   39   37   34    2 
  12 Arsenal                  28    8   10   10   31   32   34   -1 
  13 Chelsea                  27    8    9   10   35   38   33   -3 
  14 Man. City                27    8    8   11   35   44   32   -9 
  15 Southampton              27    6   13    8   39   44   31   -5 
  16 Q.P.R.                   26    8    7   11   39   45   31   -6 
  17 Coventry City            28    7   10   11   27   45   31  -18 
  18 Crystal Palace           28    7    9   12   21   28   30   -7 
  19 Everton                  27    7    9   11   27   36   30   -9 
  20 West Ham Utd.            26    8    4   14   24   33   28   -9 
  21 Ipswich Town             27    5    5   17   29   55   20  -26 
  22 Leicester City           27    4    7   16   25   46   19  -21 
13.605Results since last time!!!!ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKMon Feb 27 1995 20:4258
	Sat 18th

       Coventry City      2  -  0    West Ham Utd.      
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  2    Aston Villa        

	Tue 21st

       Arsenal            1  -  0    Nott'm Forest      

	Wed 22nd

       Aston Villa        4  -  4    Leicester City     
       Blackburn Rovers   2  -  1    Wimbledon          
       Leeds Utd.         1  -  0    Everton            
       Man. City          2  -  0    Ipswich Town       
       Norwich City       0  -  2    Man. Utd.          

	Sat 25th

       Blackburn Rovers   0  -  0    Norwich City       
       Coventry City      4  -  2    Leicester City     
       Crystal Palace     0  -  3    Arsenal            
       Everton            1  -  0    Man. Utd.          
       Ipswich Town       2  -  1    Southampton        
       Man. City          0  -  0    Leeds Utd.         
       Newcastle Utd.     3  -  1    Aston Villa        
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  2    Liverpool          
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  2    Wimbledon          
       West Ham Utd.      1  -  2    Chelsea            

	Sun 26th

       Q.P.R.             1  -  1    Nott'm Forest      

        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         30   20    6    4   63   26   66   37 
   2 Man. Utd.                30   19    6    5   53   22   63   31 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           29   15    9    5   49   31   54   18 
   4 Liverpool                28   14    9    5   48   23   51   25 
   5 Nott'm Forest            30   13    8    9   42   33   47    9 
   6 Leeds Utd.               28   11   10    7   35   28   43    7 
   7 Tottenham Hotspur        28   12    7    9   46   40   43    6 
   8 Arsenal                  30   10   10   10   35   32   40    3 
   9 Sheffield Wed.           30   10    9   11   39   40   39   -1 
  10 Wimbledon                29   11    6   12   35   49   39  -14 
  11 Aston Villa              31    9   11   11   46   45   38    1 
  12 Coventry City            30    9   10   11   33   47   37  -14 
  13 Chelsea                  28    9    9   10   37   39   36   -2 
  14 Norwich City             29    9    9   11   27   33   36   -6 
  15 Man. City                29    9    9   11   37   44   36   -7 
  16 Everton                  30    8   10   12   30   39   34   -9 
  17 Q.P.R.                   27    8    8   11   40   46   32   -6 
  18 Southampton              28    6   13    9   40   46   31   -6 
  19 Crystal Palace           29    7    9   13   21   31   30  -10 
  20 West Ham Utd.            29    8    5   16   27   39   29  -12 
  21 Ipswich Town             29    6    5   18   31   58   23  -27 
  22 Leicester City           29    4    8   17   31   54   20  -23 
13.606ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKMon Mar 06 1995 14:4148
	Wed 1st Mar

       Ipswich Town       0  -  2    Newcastle Utd.     


	Sat 4th Mar


       Aston Villa        0  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   
       Leeds Utd.         0  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     
       Leicester City     2  -  2    Everton            
       Liverpool          2  -  0    Newcastle Utd.     
       Man. Utd.          9  -  0    Ipswich Town       
       Norwich City       1  -  1    Man. City          
       Nott'm Forest      2  -  2    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Southampton        0  -  0    Coventry City      
       Wimbledon          1  -  3    Q.P.R.    

	Sun 5th Mar

       Arsenal            0  -  1    West Ham Utd.      
       Chelsea            0  -  0    Crystal Palace     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         31   21    6    4   64   26   69   38 
   2 Man. Utd.                31   20    6    5   62   22   66   40 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           31   16    9    6   52   33   57   19 
   4 Liverpool                29   15    9    5   50   23   54   27 
   5 Nott'm Forest            31   13    9    9   44   35   48    9 
   6 Tottenham Hotspur        29   12    8    9   48   42   44    6 
   7 Leeds Utd.               29   11   10    8   35   29   43    6 
   8 Sheffield Wed.           31   11    9   11   40   40   42    0 
   9 Arsenal                  31   10   10   11   35   33   40    2 
  10 Wimbledon                30   11    6   13   36   53   39  -17 
  11 Aston Villa              32    9   11   12   46   46   38    0 
  12 Coventry City            31    9   11   11   33   47   38  -14 
  13 Chelsea                  29    9   10   10   37   39   37   -2 
  14 Norwich City             30    9   10   11   28   34   37   -6 
  15 Man. City                30    9   10   11   38   45   37   -7 
  16 Q.P.R.                   28    9    8   11   43   47   35   -4 
  17 Everton                  31    8   11   12   32   41   35   -9 
  18 Southampton              29    6   14    9   40   46   32   -6 
  19 West Ham Utd.            30    9    5   16   28   39   32  -11 
  20 Crystal Palace           30    7   10   13   21   31   31  -10 
  21 Ipswich Town             31    6    5   20   31   69   23  -38 
  22 Leicester City           30    4    9   17   33   56   21  -23 
13.607More resultsADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKWed Mar 22 1995 20:2243
	Mon 6th

       Aston Villa        0  -  0    Coventry City      

	Tue 7th

       Wimbledon          0  -  1    Man. Utd.          

	Wed 8th

       Blackburn Rovers   3  -  1    Arsenal            
       Man. City          1  -  2    Chelsea            
       Newcastle Utd.     2  -  0    West Ham Utd.      
       Norwich City       0  -  0    Sheffield Wed.     
       Nott'm Forest      2  -  1    Everton            
       Q.P.R.             2  -  0    Leicester City     
       Tottenham Hotspur  3  -  0    Ipswich Town       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         32   22    6    4   67   27   72   40 
   2 Man. Utd.                32   21    6    5   63   22   69   41 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           32   17    9    6   54   33   60   21 
   4 Liverpool                29   15    9    5   50   23   54   27 
   5 Nott'm Forest            32   14    9    9   46   36   51   10 
   6 Tottenham Hotspur        30   13    8    9   51   42   47    9 
   7 Leeds Utd.               29   11   10    8   35   29   43    6 
   8 Sheffield Wed.           32   11   10   11   40   40   43    0 
   9 Arsenal                  32   10   10   12   36   36   40    0 
  10 Chelsea                  30   10   10   10   39   40   40   -1 
  11 Aston Villa              33    9   12   12   46   46   39    0 
  12 Coventry City            32    9   12   11   33   47   39  -14 
  13 Wimbledon                31   11    6   14   36   54   39  -18 
  14 Q.P.R.                   29   10    8   11   45   47   38   -2 
  15 Norwich City             31    9   11   11   28   34   38   -6 
  16 Man. City                31    9   10   12   39   47   37   -8 
  17 Everton                  32    8   11   13   33   43   35  -10 
  18 Southampton              29    6   14    9   40   46   32   -6 
  19 West Ham Utd.            31    9    5   17   28   41   32  -13 
  20 Crystal Palace           30    7   10   13   21   31   31  -10 
  21 Ipswich Town             32    6    5   21   31   72   23  -41 
  22 Leicester City           31    4    9   18   33   58   21  -25 
13.608Sat 11th MarADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKWed Mar 22 1995 20:2431
       Chelsea            0  -  3    Leeds Utd.         
       Coventry City      1  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   
       Leicester City     2  -  4    Nott'm Forest      
       Sheffield Wed.     0  -  1    Wimbledon          
       West Ham Utd.      2  -  2    Norwich City       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         33   22    7    4   68   28   73   40 
   2 Man. Utd.                32   21    6    5   63   22   69   41 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           32   17    9    6   54   33   60   21 
   4 Liverpool                29   15    9    5   50   23   54   27 
   5 Nott'm Forest            33   15    9    9   50   38   54   12 
   6 Tottenham Hotspur        30   13    8    9   51   42   47    9 
   7 Leeds Utd.               30   12   10    8   38   29   46    9 
   8 Sheffield Wed.           33   11   10   12   40   41   43   -1 
   9 Wimbledon                32   12    6   14   37   54   42  -17 
  10 Arsenal                  32   10   10   12   36   36   40    0 
  11 Chelsea                  31   10   10   11   39   43   40   -4 
  12 Coventry City            33    9   13   11   34   48   40  -14 
  13 Aston Villa              33    9   12   12   46   46   39    0 
  14 Norwich City             32    9   12   11   30   36   39   -6 
  15 Q.P.R.                   29   10    8   11   45   47   38   -2 
  16 Man. City                31    9   10   12   39   47   37   -8 
  17 Everton                  32    8   11   13   33   43   35  -10 
  18 West Ham Utd.            32    9    6   17   30   43   33  -13 
  19 Southampton              29    6   14    9   40   46   32   -6 
  20 Crystal Palace           30    7   10   13   21   31   31  -10 
  21 Ipswich Town             32    6    5   21   31   72   23  -41 
  22 Leicester City           32    4    9   19   35   62   21  -27 
13.60914th & 15th MarADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKWed Mar 22 1995 20:3738
	14th Mar

       Crystal Palace     2  -  1    Sheffield Wed.     

	15th Mar

       Everton            1  -  1    Man. City          
       Leicester City     1  -  3    Leeds Utd.         
       Liverpool          2  -  3    Coventry City      
       Man. Utd.          0  -  0    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Q.P.R.             2  -  0    Norwich City       
       Southampton        1  -  1    West Ham Utd.      


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         33   22    7    4   68   28   73   40 
   2 Man. Utd.                33   21    7    5   63   22   70   41 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           32   17    9    6   54   33   60   21 
   4 Liverpool                30   15    9    6   52   26   54   26 
   5 Nott'm Forest            33   15    9    9   50   38   54   12 
   6 Leeds Utd.               31   13   10    8   41   30   49   11 
   7 Tottenham Hotspur        31   13    9    9   51   42   48    9 
   8 Sheffield Wed.           34   11   10   13   41   43   43   -2 
   9 Coventry City            34   10   13   11   37   50   43  -13 
  10 Wimbledon                32   12    6   14   37   54   42  -17 
  11 Q.P.R.                   30   11    8   11   47   47   41    0 
  12 Arsenal                  32   10   10   12   36   36   40    0 
  13 Chelsea                  31   10   10   11   39   43   40   -4 
  14 Aston Villa              33    9   12   12   46   46   39    0 
  15 Norwich City             33    9   12   12   30   38   39   -8 
  16 Man. City                32    9   11   12   40   48   38   -8 
  17 Everton                  33    8   12   13   34   44   36  -10 
  18 Crystal Palace           31    8   10   13   23   32   34   -9 
  19 West Ham Utd.            33    9    7   17   31   44   34  -13 
  20 Southampton              30    6   15    9   41   47   33   -6 
  21 Ipswich Town             32    6    5   21   31   72   23  -41 
  22 Leicester City           33    4    9   20   36   65   21  -29 
13.610Week 34ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKWed Mar 22 1995 20:4246
	Sat 18th

       Aston Villa        0  -  2    West Ham Utd.      
       Blackburn Rovers   2  -  1    Chelsea            
       Leeds Utd.         3  -  0    Coventry City      
       Man. City          3  -  2    Sheffield Wed.     
       Nott'm Forest      3  -  0    Southampton        
       Q.P.R.             2  -  3    Everton            
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  0    Leicester City     
       Wimbledon          2  -  0    Crystal Palace     

	Sun 19th

       Liverpool          2  -  0    Man. Utd.          
       Newcastle Utd.     1  -  0    Arsenal            

	Mon 20th

       Norwich City       3  -  0    Ipswich Town       


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         34   23    7    4   70   29   76   41 
   2 Man. Utd.                34   21    7    6   63   24   70   39 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           33   18    9    6   55   33   63   22 
   4 Liverpool                31   16    9    6   54   26   57   28 
   5 Nott'm Forest            34   16    9    9   53   38   57   15 
   6 Leeds Utd.               32   14   10    8   44   30   52   14 
   7 Tottenham Hotspur        32   14    9    9   52   42   51   10 
   8 Wimbledon                33   13    6   14   39   54   45  -15 
   9 Sheffield Wed.           35   11   10   14   43   46   43   -3 
  10 Coventry City            35   10   13   12   37   53   43  -16 
  11 Norwich City             34   10   12   12   33   38   42   -5 
  12 Q.P.R.                   31   11    8   12   49   50   41   -1 
  13 Man. City                33   10   11   12   43   50   41   -7 
  14 Arsenal                  33   10   10   13   36   37   40   -1 
  15 Chelsea                  32   10   10   12   40   45   40   -5 
  16 Aston Villa              34    9   12   13   46   48   39   -2 
  17 Everton                  34    9   12   13   37   46   39   -9 
  18 West Ham Utd.            34   10    7   17   33   44   37  -11 
  19 Crystal Palace           32    8   10   14   23   34   34  -11 
  20 Southampton              31    6   15   10   41   50   33   -9 
  21 Ipswich Town             33    6    5   22   31   75   23  -44 
  22 Leicester City           34    4    9   21   36   66   21  -30 

13.611GENIE::GOODEJMr Dragon - 761 4831Thu Mar 23 1995 12:044
    
    Anyone care to enter last night's results? Please.
    
    JBG
13.612IRNBRU::HOWARDLovely day for a GuinnessThu Mar 23 1995 12:067
    some that I remember....
    
    QPR 1-0 Chelsea....(yeeessss, QPR up to 9th....)
    ManU 3-0 Arse....
    NottsF 3-0 Leeds....
    
    Ray....
13.613okTRUCKS::SANTThere is a canal far away - Far Canal!Thu Mar 23 1995 12:0712
    
    	from memory...
    
    	United 3 Arse nil
    	Southampton 3 Newcastle 1 (0-1 with 5 mins to go!)
    	Forest 3 Leeds 0
    	Spurs 0 Liverpool 0
    	QPR 1 Chelsea 0
    	
    	Think that's it...
    
    	Andy.
13.614Midweek Results & table!!!ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKThu Mar 23 1995 20:4137
	Tue 21st

       Wimbledon          2  -  0    Man. City          

	Wed 22nd

       Man. Utd.          3  -  0    Arsenal            
       Nott'm Forest      3  -  0    Leeds Utd.         
       Q.P.R.             1  -  0    Chelsea            
       Southampton        3  -  1    Newcastle Utd.     
       Tottenham Hotspur  0  -  0    Liverpool          


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         34   23    7    4   70   29   76   41 
   2 Man. Utd.                35   22    7    6   66   24   73   42 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           34   18    9    7   56   36   63   20 
   4 Nott'm Forest            35   17    9    9   56   38   60   18 
   5 Liverpool                32   16   10    6   54   26   58   28 
   6 Leeds Utd.               33   14   10    9   44   33   52   11 
   7 Tottenham Hotspur        33   14   10    9   52   42   52   10 
   8 Wimbledon                34   14    6   14   41   54   48  -13 
   9 Q.P.R.                   32   12    8   12   50   50   44    0 
  10 Sheffield Wed.           35   11   10   14   43   46   43   -3 
  11 Coventry City            35   10   13   12   37   53   43  -16 
  12 Norwich City             34   10   12   12   33   38   42   -5 
  13 Man. City                34   10   11   13   43   52   41   -9 
  14 Arsenal                  34   10   10   14   36   40   40   -4 
  15 Chelsea                  33   10   10   13   40   46   40   -6 
  16 Aston Villa              34    9   12   13   46   48   39   -2 
  17 Everton                  34    9   12   13   37   46   39   -9 
  18 West Ham Utd.            34   10    7   17   33   44   37  -11 
  19 Southampton              32    7   15   10   44   51   36   -7 
  20 Crystal Palace           32    8   10   14   23   34   34  -11 
  21 Ipswich Town             33    6    5   22   31   75   23  -44 
  22 Leicester City           34    4    9   21   36   66   21  -30 
13.615Week 36ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKMon Apr 03 1995 22:4441
	Sat 1st

       Arsenal            5  -  1    Norwich City       
       Chelsea            1  -  1    Newcastle Utd.     
       Coventry City      0  -  1    Q.P.R.             
       Crystal Palace     2  -  1    Man. City          
       Everton            1  -  2    Blackburn Rovers   
       Ipswich Town       0  -  1    Aston Villa        
       Leicester City     3  -  4    Wimbledon          
       Sheffield Wed.     1  -  7    Nott'm Forest      

	Sun 2nd

       Man. Utd.          0  -  0    Leeds Utd.         
       Southampton        4  -  3    Tottenham Hotspur  


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         35   24    7    4   72   30   79   42 
   2 Man. Utd.                36   22    8    6   66   24   74   42 
   3 Newcastle Utd.           35   18   10    7   57   37   64   20 
   4 Nott'm Forest            36   18    9    9   63   39   63   24 
   5 Liverpool                32   16   10    6   54   26   58   28 
   6 Leeds Utd.               34   14   11    9   44   33   53   11 
   7 Tottenham Hotspur        34   14   10   10   55   46   52    9 
   8 Wimbledon                35   15    6   14   45   57   51  -12 
   9 Q.P.R.                   33   13    8   12   51   50   47    1 
  10 Arsenal                  35   11   10   14   41   41   43    0 
  11 Sheffield Wed.           36   11   10   15   44   53   43   -9 
  12 Coventry City            36   10   13   13   37   54   43  -17 
  13 Aston Villa              35   10   12   13   47   48   42   -1 
  14 Norwich City             35   10   12   13   34   43   42   -9 
  15 Chelsea                  34   10   11   13   41   47   41   -6 
  16 Man. City                35   10   11   14   44   54   41  -10 
  17 Southampton              33    8   15   10   48   54   39   -6 
  18 Everton                  35    9   12   14   38   48   39  -10 
  19 Crystal Palace           33    9   10   14   25   35   37  -10 
  20 West Ham Utd.            34   10    7   17   33   44   37  -11 
  21 Ipswich Town             34    6    5   23   31   76   23  -45 
  22 Leicester City           35    4    9   22   39   70   21  -31 
13.616ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKWed Apr 12 1995 16:4936
Not too sure of the results over the last week or so:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, or missed some

Cheers

Al

Wed 5 Apr 95

Leeds United         4 - 0 Ipswich Town
Leicester City       1 - 0 Norwich City
Liverpool            3 - 1 Southampton

Sat 8 Apr 95

Newcastle United     3 - 0 Norwich City
Nottingham Forest    1 - 1 West Ham United
Queen's Park Rangers 3 - 1 Arsenal
Sheffield Wednesday  1 - 0 Leicester City

Sun 9 Apr 95

Liverpool            0 - 1 Leeds United

Mon 10 Apr 95

Wimbledon            1 - 1 Chelsea

Tue 11 Apr 95

Ipswich Town         0 - 1 Queen's Park Rangers



Table to follow later
13.617FORTY2::ABRAHAMSWed Apr 12 1995 17:353
Tue 11 Apr 95

Spurs 		2   Man City 1
13.618hope everton win the cup and go down!COMICS::HAWLEYIBuddha say: Desire nothingThu Apr 13 1995 13:245
    
    Any chance of an updated premier league table anyone?
    
    Ian.
    
13.619Relegation for half the table!YUPPY::PATEMANRunnin' on EmptyThu Apr 13 1995 15:2944
    Thought it might be interesting to post the final games of the most
    obvious relegation candidates (Ipswich & Leicester excepted)
    
    West Ham		Palace		Everton		Norwich
    
    H Wombles		H Spurs		H Newcastle	A Spurs
    A Ipswich		A QPR		A Sheff Weds	H Liverpool
    H Blackburn		A Blackburn	H Wombles	A Leeds
    H QPR		H Forest	H Chelsea	H Villa
    A Palace		H West Ham	H Southampton
    H Liverpool		A Leeds		A Ipswich
    H Man Utd		A Newcastle	A Coventry
    
    Man City		Arsenal		Southampton	Coventry
    
    H Liverpool		H Ipswich	H QPR		H Sheff Weds
    A Blackburn		A Villa		A Wombles	A Forest
    H Newcastle		H Spurs		H Sheff Weds	H Man Utd
    A Villa		H Wombles	H Palace	A Ipswich
    A Forest		A Chelsea	A Everton	A Spurs
    H QPR				A Man Utd	H Everton
    					H Leicester	
    
    Chelsea		Villa
    
    H Villa		A Chelsea
    A Man Utd		H Arsenal
    H QPR		A Leeds
    A Everton		H Man City
    A Leicester		H Liverpool
    H Arsenal		A Norwich
    
    I reckon that these 10 teams are still in it up to their necks. None
    have got more than 43 points with 48-50 the safety line. They are also
    all playing one another, so there are a huge number of big 6 pointers
    coming up.
    
    My bet?
    
    Norwich & West Ham
    
    but then I'm a Palace fan afterall!
    
    Paul
13.620Missing MatchYUPPY::PATEMANRunnin' on EmptyThu Apr 13 1995 15:323
    Sorry - missed out Palace away to Southampton between Forest & West ham
    
    Paul
13.621Spurs/Coventry matchAYOV27::FW_TEMP01John Hussey - Dunure's greatThu Apr 13 1995 15:594
Anyone know the date of the Spurs v Coventry match?  I have Spurs at home
to Newcastle where Stuart got this match.

Thanks
13.622CHEFS::STRATFORDSPass the Babel FishThu Apr 13 1995 16:0410
    Paul,
    
    Thanks for that list, it cheered me up no end seeing the others run-ins
    were all more tricky than ours esp. as it looks like most teams will be
    playing Sat - Weds - Sat until the end of the season.
    
    Joining Leicester & Ipswich in the Endsleigh next season? My guess is
    Norwich and Manchester City.
    
    Stuart
13.623ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKThu Apr 13 1995 16:1131
       Arsenal            0  -  1    Liverpool          
       Chelsea            0  -  2    Southampton        
       Norwich City       0  -  1    Nott'm Forest      


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         36   25    7    4   73   30   82   43 
   2 Man. Utd.                36   22    8    6   66   24   74   42 
   3 Nott'm Forest            38   19   10    9   65   40   67   25 
   4 Newcastle Utd.           36   19   10    7   60   37   67   23 
   5 Liverpool                35   18   10    7   58   28   64   30 
   6 Leeds Utd.               36   16   11    9   49   33   59   16 
   7 Tottenham Hotspur        35   15   10   10   57   47   55   10 
   8 Q.P.R.                   36   15    8   13   55   52   53    3 
   9 Wimbledon                36   15    7   14   46   58   52  -12 
  10 Sheffield Wed.           37   12   10   15   45   53   46   -8 
  11 Aston Villa              36   10   13   13   47   48   43   -1 
  12 Arsenal                  37   11   10   16   42   45   43   -3 
  13 Coventry City            36   10   13   13   37   54   43  -17 
  14 Southampton              35    9   15   11   51   57   42   -6 
  15 Chelsea                  36   10   12   14   42   50   42   -8 
  16 Norwich City             38   10   12   16   34   48   42  -14 
  17 Man. City                36   10   11   15   45   56   41  -11 
  18 Everton                  35    9   12   14   38   48   39  -10 
  19 Crystal Palace           34    9   11   14   25   35   38  -10 
  20 West Ham Utd.            35   10    8   17   34   45   38  -11 
  21 Leicester City           37    5    9   23   40   71   24  -31 
  22 Ipswich Town             36    6    5   25   31   81   23  -50 

Not too sure if the table is up to date!!!
13.624My guessAYOV27::FW_TEMP01John Hussey - Dunure's greatThu Apr 13 1995 16:372
I'm going for Palace & Norwich for the drop.  If the Hammers don't pick
up a win this weekend I'll change my mind and go for them.
13.625"When the going gets tough...Chelsea lose"YUPPY::ASHLEYSMITHA.O.B. Mr Aitken?Thu Apr 13 1995 17:379
    I thought that Chelsea would get a victory at home to Southampton 
    last night. Not to be. They leap-frogged us and relegation looms for 
    a side that cannot win at home and appear not able to beat fellow
    Endsleigh candidates. Villa coming up next and then a trip to Old
    Trafford. 
    
    Andy
    
    
13.626TUXEDO::HINXMANDreadful human beingThu Apr 13 1995 18:494
	I agree. Losing at home to Southampton is usually a sign that a team
	is in deep trouble.

	Tony$long_suffering_Saints_fan
13.627Fri/Sat gamesADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKTue Apr 18 1995 18:3836
       Arsenal            4  -  1    Ipswich Town       
       Chelsea            1  -  0    Aston Villa        
       Coventry City      2  -  0    Sheffield Wed.     
       Crystal Palace     1  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Everton            2  -  0    Newcastle Utd.     
       Leeds Utd.         1  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   
       Leicester City     0  -  4    Man. Utd.          
       Man. City          2  -  1    Liverpool          
       Southampton        2  -  1    Q.P.R.             
       West Ham Utd.      3  -  0    Wimbledon          


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         37   25    8    4   74   31   83   43 
   2 Man. Utd.                37   23    8    6   70   24   77   46 
   3 Nott'm Forest            38   19   10    9   65   40   67   25 
   4 Newcastle Utd.           37   19   10    8   60   39   67   21 
   5 Liverpool                36   18   10    8   59   30   64   29 
   6 Leeds Utd.               37   16   12    9   50   34   60   16 
   7 Tottenham Hotspur        36   15   11   10   58   48   56   10 
   8 Q.P.R.                   37   15    8   14   56   54   53    2 
   9 Wimbledon                37   15    7   15   46   61   52  -15 
  10 Arsenal                  38   12   10   16   46   46   46    0 
  11 Sheffield Wed.           38   12   10   16   45   55   46  -10 
  12 Coventry City            37   11   13   13   39   54   46  -15 
  13 Southampton              36   10   15   11   53   58   45   -5 
  14 Chelsea                  37   11   12   14   43   50   45   -7 
  15 Man. City                37   11   11   15   47   57   44  -10 
  16 Aston Villa              37   10   13   14   47   49   43   -2 
  17 Everton                  36   10   12   14   40   48   42   -8 
  18 Norwich City             38   10   12   16   34   48   42  -14 
  19 West Ham Utd.            36   11    8   17   37   45   41   -8 
  20 Crystal Palace           35    9   12   14   26   36   39  -10 
  21 Leicester City           38    5    9   24   40   75   24  -35 
  22 Ipswich Town             37    6    5   26   32   85   23  -53 
13.628Yesterday's resultsADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKTue Apr 18 1995 19:0746
       Aston Villa        0  -  4    Arsenal            
       Blackburn Rovers   2  -  3    Man. City          
       Ipswich Town       1  -  1    West Ham Utd.      
       Liverpool          2  -  0    Leicester City     
       Man. Utd.          0  -  0    Chelsea            
       Newcastle Utd.     1  -  2    Leeds Utd.         
       Nott'm Forest      2  -  0    Coventry City      
       Q.P.R.             0  -  1    Crystal Palace     
       Sheffield Wed.     0  -  0    Everton            
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  0    Norwich City       
       Wimbledon          0  -  2    Southampton        


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD      Max

   1 Blackburn Rovers         38   25    8    5   76   34   83   42 	95
------------------------------------------------------------------------
   2 Man. Utd.                38   23    9    6   70   24   78   46 	90
   3 Nott'm Forest            39   20   10    9   67   40   70   27 	79
   4 Liverpool                37   19   10    8   61   30   67   31 	82 #
   5 Newcastle Utd.           38   19   10    9   61   41   67   20 	79
   6 Leeds Utd.               38   17   12    9   52   35   63   17 	75
   7 Tottenham Hotspur        37   16   11   10   59   48   59   11 	74
   8 Q.P.R.                   38   15    8   15   56   55   53    1 	65
   9 Wimbledon                38   15    7   16   46   63   52  -17 	64
  10 Arsenal                  39   13   10   16   50   46   49    4 	58
  11 Southampton              37   11   15   11   55   58   48   -3 	63
  12 Man. City                38   12   11   15   50   59   47   -9 	59
  13 Sheffield Wed.           39   12   11   16   45   55   47  -10 	56
  14 Chelsea                  38   11   13   14   43   50   46   -7 	58
  15 Coventry City            38   11   13   14   39   56   46  -17 	58
  16 Aston Villa              38   10   13   15   47   53   43   -6 	55
  17 Everton                  37   10   13   14   40   48   43   -8 	58
  18 West Ham Utd.            37   11    9   17   38   46   42   -8 	57
------------------------------------------------------------------------
  19 Crystal Palace           36   10   12   14   27   36   42   -9 	60
  20 Norwich City             39   10   12   17   34   49   42  -15 	51
  21 Leicester City           39    5    9   25   40   77   24  -37	33 *
  22 Ipswich Town             38    6    6   26   33   86   24  -53	36 *


How many UEFA places do we get this year????


*	Relegated
#	UEFA Cup (CCC winners)
13.629GENIE::GOODEJMr Dragon - 761 4831Tue Apr 18 1995 20:028
    
    I think we have 4 UEFA places for next year. Liverpool already have
    theirs (CCC) leaving ManU, Forest & Newcastle currently in possession
    of the other 3. Of course, if ManU retain the FA Cup they will play in
    the CWC, leaving a place for te 6th placed team (currently Leeds) in
    the UEFA cup.....assuming Blackburn haven't rolled over & given up!
    	Spur's are currently 8 points adrift of a guarenteed place in the
    UEFA cup.
13.630ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKFri Apr 21 1995 17:0829
       Blackburn Rovers   2  -  1    Crystal Palace     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         39   26    8    5   78   35   86   43 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
   2 Man. Utd.                38   23    9    6   70   24   78   46 
   3 Nott'm Forest            39   20   10    9   67   40   70   27
   4 Liverpool                37   19   10    8   61   30   67   31 	*
   5 Newcastle Utd.           38   19   10    9   61   41   67   20
   6 Leeds Utd.               38   17   12    9   52   35   63   17
   7 Tottenham Hotspur        37   16   11   10   59   48   59   11
   8 Q.P.R.                   38   15    8   15   56   55   53    1 
   9 Wimbledon                38   15    7   16   46   63   52  -17 
  10 Arsenal                  39   13   10   16   50   46   49    4 
  11 Southampton              37   11   15   11   55   58   48   -3 
  12 Man. City                38   12   11   15   50   59   47   -9 
  13 Sheffield Wed.           39   12   11   16   45   55   47  -10 
  14 Chelsea                  38   11   13   14   43   50   46   -7 
  15 Coventry City            38   11   13   14   39   56   46  -17 
  16 Aston Villa              38   10   13   15   47   53   43   -6 
  17 Everton                  37   10   13   14   40   48   43   -8 
  18 West Ham Utd.            37   11    9   17   38   46   42   -8 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
  19 Crystal Palace           37   10   12   15   28   38   42  -10 
  20 Norwich City             39   10   12   17   34   49   42  -15 
  21 Leicester City           39    5    9   25   40   77   24  -37	R 
  22 Ipswich Town             38    6    6   26   33   86   24  -53 	R
13.631HBFDT1::SCHARNBERGSenior KodierwurstWed Apr 26 1995 14:584
    It would be interesting (for people without a real life, e.g. me) to
    have a list of English league champions, 1994-1066 (or whatever date).
    
    Heiko
13.632TRUCKS::SANTNo sleep 'til bedtimeWed Apr 26 1995 15:1830
                           
    	I'll have a bash...test the old memory ;-)
    
    	25 years' worth...
    
    	94	Man Utd
    	93	Man Utd
    	92	Leeds Utd
    	91	Arsenal
    	90	Liverpool
    	89	Arsenal
    	88	Liverpool
    	87	Everton
    	86	Liverpool
    	85	Everton
    	84	Liverpool
    	83	Liverpool
    	82	Liverpool
    	81	Aston Villa
    	80	Liverpool
    	79	Nottm Forest
    	78	Nottm Forest
    	77	Liverpool
    	76      Liverpool
    	75	Derby County
    	74	Leeds Utd
    	73	Liverpool
    	72	Derby County
    	71	Arsenal
    
13.633A queryAYOV27::FW_TEMP01John Hussey - Dunure's greatWed Apr 26 1995 15:381
Didn't Forest only win the league once?  They won the EC twice.
13.634MIGHTY REDS!COMICS::HAWLEYIand the horse you rode in on!Wed Apr 26 1995 15:427
    Andy,
    
    You must have really enjoyed having to type Liverpool so many times!
    And i agree about nottingham forest...didnt LIVERPOOL win it that year
    as well?
    
    Ian.
13.635im still cuteCOMICS::HAWLEYIand the horse you rode in on!Wed Apr 26 1995 15:445
    > didnt LIVERPOOL win it that year as well?
    
    That year being 1979. Or am I dreaming? I was only 8 after all.
    
    Ian.
13.636HBFDT1::SCHARNBERGSenior KodierwurstWed Apr 26 1995 16:027
    Thanks.
    The fun is, of course, looking way back in history, when teams won the
    championship who have since dropped into Div.3.
    
    Just as FC Magdeburg, 70-something UEFA cup winner, now struggling in
    German Div.4 (Oberliga). 
    
13.637VNACO1::HERIBERTWed Apr 26 1995 16:136
Heiko,

Has Juergen Sparwasser (I believe, I remember his 1:0 against Germany
in Munich 1974 ?) played for this FC Magdeburg ?

Heribert
13.638HBFDT1::SCHARNBERGSenior KodierwurstWed Apr 26 1995 16:537
    It was Sparwasser, of course.
    I don't know where he played. The GDR eventually started to gather all
    quality players at FC Dynamo Ost-Berlin, maybe he played there, maybe
    they started this technique of quality-improvement later than '74.
    No idea.
    
    Heiko
13.639Please note copyright on last lineGYMAC::DCASSIDYWed Apr 26 1995 21:39355
English Football Champions 1889-1994

Champions 

   1889-1915 
   1920-1939 
   1947-1992 
   1993-1994 

Summaries 

   1889-1939 
   1947-1994 
   Overall summary 
   Current divisons of former champions 

Wartime Champions (unofficial) 

   1915-1919 
   1940-1946 

About this document 


Football League Champions 1889-1915

1889  *Preston NE
1890  -Preston NE
1891  *Everton
1892  *Sunderland
1893   Sunderland
1894   Aston Villa
1895   Sunderland
1896   Aston Villa
1897   Aston Villa
1898 *-Sheffield United
1899   Aston Villa
1900   Aston Villa
1901  *Liverpool
1902   Sunderland
1903  *The Wednesday
1904   The Wednesday
1905  *Newcastle United
1906   Liverpool
1907   Newcastle United
1908  *Manchester United
1909   Newcastle United
1910   Aston Villa
1911   Manchester United
1912  *Blackburn Rovers
1913   Sunderland
1914  -Blackburn Rovers
1915   Everton

* indicates club's first title
- indicates club's last title

Index| Summary 1889| Champions 1920| War 1915 


Football League Champions 1920-39

1920 *-West Bromwich Albion
1921  *Burnley
1922   Liverpool
1923   Liverpool
1924  *Huddersfield Town
1925   Huddersfield Town
1926  -Huddersfield Town
1927  -Newcastle United
1928   Everton
1929   The Wednesday
1930  -Sheffield Wednesday
1931  *Arsenal
1932   Everton
1933   Arsenal
1934   Arsenal
1935   Arsenal
1936  -Sunderland
1937  *Manchester City
1938   Arsenal
1939   Everton

* indicates club's first title
- indicates club's last title

Index| Champions 1889| Champions 1947| Summary 1889| War 1940 


Summary 1889-1939 (47 championships)

6  Sunderland, Aston Villa
5  Everton, Arsenal
4  Liverpool, Newcastle United, The Wednesday/Sheffield Wednesday
3  Huddersfield Town
2  Preston North End, Manchester United, Blackburn Rovers
1  Sheffield United, West Bromwich Albion, Burnley, Manchester City

Index| Champions 1920| Champions 1947 


Football League Champions 1947-1992

1947   Liverpool
1948   Arsenal
1949  *Portsmouth
1950  -Portsmouth
1951  *Tottenham Hostpur
1952   Manchester United
1953   Arsenal
1954  *Wolverhampton Wanderers
1955 *-Chelsea
1956   Manchester United
1957   Manchester United
1958   Wolverhampton Wanderers
1959  -Wolverhampton Wanderers
1960  -Burnley
1961  -Tottenham Hotspur
1962 *-Ipswich Town
1963   Everton
1964   Liverpool
1965   Manchester United
1966   Liverpool
1967   Manchester United
1968  -Manchester City
1969  *Leeds United
1970   Everton
1971   Arsenal
1972  *Derby County
1973   Liverpool
1974   Leeds United
1975  -Derby County
1976   Liverpool
1977   Liverpool
1978 *-Nottingham Forest
1979   Liverpool
1980   Liverpool
1981  -Aston Villa
1982   Liverpool
1983   Liverpool
1984   Liverpool
1985   Everton
1986   Liverpool
1987  -Everton
1988   Liverpool
1989   Arsenal
1990  -Liverpool
1991  -Arsenal
1992  -Leeds United

* indicates club's first title
- indicates club's last title

Index| Champions 1920| Champions 1993| Summary 1947 


FA Premier League Champions 1993-94

In 1992 the 22 Division One clubs resigned en masse from the Football League and formed the FA Premier
League. At the end of the 1991-92 season promotion and relegation took place as normal between Div 1 and
Div 2 and the 22 clubs which would have formed Div 1 of the Football League for season 1992-93 became the
founder members of the new FA Premier League. 

1993   Manchester United
1994  -Manchester United

* indicates club's first title
- indicates club's last title

Index| Champions 1947| Summary 1947 


Summary 1947-94 (48 championships)

14  Liverpool
 7  Manchester United
 5  Arsenal
 4  Everton
 3  Wolverhampton Wanderers, Leeds United
 2  Portsmouth, Tottenham Hotspur, Derby County
 1  Chelsea, Burnley, Ipswich Town, Manchester City, Nottingham Forest,
    Aston Villa

Index| Champions 1993| Overall summary 


Summary 1889-1994 (95 championships)

18  Liverpool
10  Arsenal
 9  Everton, Manchester United
 7  Aston Villa
 6  Sunderland
 4  Newcastle United, The Wednesday/Sheffield Wednesday
 3  Huddersfield Town, Wolverhampton Wanderers, Leeds United
 2  Preston North End, Blackburn Rovers, Portsmouth, Burnley,
    Tottenham Hotspur, Manchester City, Derby County
 1  Sheffield United, West Bromwich Albion, Chelsea, Ipswich Town,
    Nottingham Forest

Index| Champions 1889| Champions 1993| Current divs 


Current divisions of former champions

Prem: Liverpool, Arsenal, Everton, Manchester United, Aston Villa,
      Sheffield Wednesday, Leeds United, Blackburn Rovers, Tottenham Hotspur,
      Manchester City, Chelsea, Ipswich Town, Newcastle United,
      Nottingham Forest
1st:  Sunderland, Wolverhampton Wanderers, Derby County, Burnley, Portsmouth,
      West Bromwich Albion, Sheffield United
2nd:  Huddersfield Town
3rd:  Preston North End

Former champions who've since played in the lowest division are Sheffield
United, Wolverhampton Wanderers, Portsmouth, Huddersfield Town, Preston North
End and Burnley.

Index| Champions 1889| Champions 1993| Overall summary 


Wartime Champions 1915-1919

The Football League closed down at the end of the 1914-15 season until the end of the war. Two regional
leagues were organised for the Midlands and Lancashire and London clubs formed their own competition. In
1918 and 1919 the Midlands and Lancashire champions met over two legs in unofficial championship matches
(these titles are not counted in clubs championship totals). 

1915-16
Lancashire Section
   Principal tournament:     Manchester City
   Subsidiary tournaments:
      Northern division:     Burnley
      Southern division:     Manchester City
Midland Section
   Principal tournament:     Nottingham Forest
   Subsidiary tournaments:
      Northern division:     Leeds City
      Southern division:     Nottingham Forest
      Midland division:      Grimsby Town
London Combination
   Principal tournament:     Chelsea
   Supplementary tournament: Chelsea
South-Western Combination    Portsmouth


1916-17
Lancashire Section
   Principal tournament:     Liverpool
   Subsidiary tournament:    Rochdale
Midland Section
   Principal tournament:     Leeds City
   Susidiary tournament:     Bradford (Park Avenue)
London Combination           West Ham United


1917-18
Lancashire Section
   Principal tournament:     Stoke
   Subsidiary tournament:    Liverpool
Midland Section
   Principal tournament:     Leeds City
   Subsidiary tournament:    Grimsby Town
London Combination           Chelsea

League Championship Cup Play-off
First leg:  Leeds City        (2) 2  Stoke             (0) 0
Second leg: Stoke             (0) 1  Leeds City        (0) 0
Leeds won on goal average


1918-19
Lancashire Section
   Principal tournament:     Everton
   Subsidiary tournaments:
      Section A:             Blackpool
      Section B:             Oldham Athletic
      Section C:             Manchester City
      Section D:             Liverpool
Midland Section
   Principal tournament:     Nottingham Forest
   Subsidiary tournaments:
      Section A:             Sheffield United
      Section B:             Birmingham
      Section C:             Bradford (Park Avenue)
      Section D:             Hull City
London Combination           Brentford

League Championship Cup Play-off
First leg:  Nottingham Forest 0  Everton           0
Second leg: Everton           0  Nottingham Forest 1
Forest won overall

Index| Champions 1920| War 1940 


Wartime Champions 1940-46

Normal league competition was suspended on declaration of war in 1939 and alternative regional leagues were
organised. 

1939-40
Midland League:      Wolverhampton Wanderers
West League:         Stoke City
North-East League:   Huddersfield Town
North-West League:   Bury
South League 'A':    Arsenal
South League 'B':    Queen's Park Rangers
South League 'C':    Tottenham Hotspur
South League 'D':    Crystal Palace
South-West League:   Plymouth Argyle
East Midland League: Chesterfield

1940-41
Northern Regional League: Preston North End
Southern Regional League: Crystal Palace

1941-42
League North:  Blackpool
League South:  Leicester City
London League: Arsenal

1942-43
League North:  Blackpool
League South:  Arsenal
League West:   Lovells Athletic

1943-44
League North:  Blackpool
League South:  Tottenham Hotspur
League West    Lovells Athletic

1944-45
League North:  Huddesfield Town
League South:  Tottenham Hotspur
League West:   Cardiff City

1945-46
League North:  Sheffield United
League South:  Birmingham City

Index| Champions 1947| War 1915 


About this document

Prepared and maintained by James M. Ross for the Rec.Sport.Soccer Statistics Foundation 

Author: James M. Ross
Email: jmr@zfe1.demon.co.uk (public); j.m.ross@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk (work)
Last updated: 9 Feb 1995 

(c) Copyright James M. Ross and RSSSF 1995
You are free to copy this document in whole or part provided that proper acknowledgement is given to the
author. All rights reserved. 
13.640Warning - Trivia Alert!TRUCKS::SANTNo sleep 'til bedtimeThu Apr 27 1995 14:424
    
    	Come on then - who the hell were Lovells Athletic?!?!?
    
    	Andy.
13.641CHEFS::STRATFORDSPass the Babel FishThu Apr 27 1995 15:097
    > Come on then - who the hell were Lovells Athletic?!?!?
    
    Andy, 
    
    Dunno but they were consistent!
    
    Stuart
13.642ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKMon May 01 1995 14:3845
	Sat 29th April

       Arsenal            1  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Chelsea            1  -  0    Q.P.R.             
       Crystal Palace     1  -  2    Nott'm Forest      
       Everton            0  -  0    Wimbledon          
       Leeds Utd.         1  -  0    Aston Villa        
       Leicester City     2  -  0    Ipswich Town       
       Man. City          0  -  0    Newcastle Utd.     
       Norwich City       1  -  2    Liverpool          
       Southampton        0  -  0    Sheffield Wed.     

	Sun 30th April

       West Ham Utd.      2  -  0    Blackburn Rovers   


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         40   26    8    6   78   37   86   41 
   2 Man. Utd.                38   23    9    6   70   24   78   46 
   3 Nott'm Forest            40   21   10    9   69   41   73   28 
   4 Liverpool                38   20   10    8   63   31   70   32 
   5 Newcastle Utd.           39   19   11    9   61   41   68   20 
   6 Leeds Utd.               39   18   12    9   53   35   66   18 
   7 Tottenham Hotspur        38   16   12   10   60   49   60   11 
   8 Q.P.R.                   39   15    8   16   56   56   53    0 
   9 Wimbledon                39   15    8   16   46   63   53  -17 
  10 Arsenal                  40   13   11   16   51   47   50    4 
  11 Southampton              38   11   16   11   55   58   49   -3 
  12 Chelsea                  39   12   13   14   44   50   49   -6 
  13 Man. City                39   12   12   15   50   59   48   -9 
  14 Sheffield Wed.           40   12   12   16   45   55   48  -10 
  15 Coventry City            38   11   13   14   39   56   46  -17 
  16 West Ham Utd.            38   12    9   17   40   46   45   -6 
  17 Everton                  38   10   14   14   40   48   44   -8 
  18 Aston Villa              39   10   13   16   47   54   43   -7 
  19 Crystal Palace           38   10   12   16   29   40   42  -11 
  20 Norwich City             40   10   12   18   35   51   42  -16 
  21 Leicester City           40    6    9   25   42   77   27  -35 
  22 Ipswich Town             39    6    6   27   33   88   24  -55 

As if you didn't know, Tonight:

Coventry City V Manchester United
13.643pweaseCOMICS::HAWLEYIand the horse you rode in on!Thu May 04 1995 13:447
    
    Could someone please enter the table showing the current state of play
    at the bottom of the premiership?
    
    The electronic telegraph is still showing the May 1st table...
    
    Ian.
13.644YUPPY::PANESReasons to be beerful part IIIThu May 04 1995 13:515
re .643

I'd rather you didn't.

Stuart
13.645Drop Zone YUPPY::PATEMANRunnin' on EmptyThu May 04 1995 15:1622
    Relegation Summary:
    
    As Palace look doomed (I am very depressed this morning) I thought a
    revised relegation options might cheer me up:
    
    Team	Pts	Max	Remaining Games
    
    Norwich	42	48	Leeds A 		Villa H
    Palace	42	51	WHU H	   Leeds A	Newcastle A
    Villa	44	50	Lpool H			Norwich A
    Everton	45	54	Soton H	   Ipswich A	Coventry A
    Coventry	46	55	Ipswich A  Spurs A	Everton H
    WHU		46	55	Palace A   Lpool H	Man Utd H
    Sheff Weds	48	54	Man U A			Ipswich H
    Man City	49	55	Forest A		QPR H
    
    As you can see, not everyone can get maximum points so 50 looks the
    target for guaranteed safety. This Saturday should narrow it down,
    probably to Villa, Palace & Wednesday going for one place. Either way,
    Palace need 2 wins and a draw to feel secure. Fat chance.
    
    Paul
13.646CHEFS::STRATFORDSPass the Babel FishThu May 04 1995 15:469
    Paul,
    
    I don't think Palace are in that bad a position (comparatively
    speaking)! Villa will lose both of their remaining games so in theory
    CP only need to beat West Ham on Saturday. Mind you Villa are rumoured
    to be bidding for Shaquille O'Neal to partner Ehiogu after his little
    effort last night!
    
    Stuart
13.647FORTY2::FOWLERMGrimsby Liberation FrontThu May 04 1995 17:304
I expect the lads to beat Norwich away, but it's beginning to look a bit dodgy.
It's a good job we sacked Ron Atkinson (although not in any real sense). 8-(

Mike
13.648One Week to goADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKTue May 09 1995 20:0493
	Mon 1st May

       Coventry City      2  -  3    Man. Utd.          

	Tue 2nd May

       Wimbledon          0  -  0    Liverpool          

	Wed 3rd May

       Aston Villa        1  -  1    Man. City          
       Everton            3  -  3    Chelsea            
       Newcastle Utd.     3  -  3    Tottenham Hotspur  
       Southampton        3  -  1    Crystal Palace     
       West Ham Utd.      0  -  0    Q.P.R.             

	Thur 4th May

       Arsenal            0  -  0    Wimbledon          

	Sat 6th May

       Aston Villa        2  -  0    Liverpool          
       Crystal Palace     1  -  0    West Ham Utd.      
       Everton            0  -  0    Southampton        
       Ipswich Town       2  -  0    Coventry City      
       Leeds Utd.         2  -  1    Norwich City       
       Leicester City     1  -  1    Chelsea            
       Nott'm Forest      1  -  0    Man. City          
       Q.P.R.             2  -  1    Tottenham Hotspur  

	Sun 7th May

       Man. Utd.          1  -  0    Sheffield Wed.     

	Mon 8th May

       Blackburn Rovers   1  -  0    Newcastle Utd.     


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         41   27    8    6   79   37   89   42 
---------------------------------------------------------------------
   2 Man. Utd.                40   25    9    6   74   26   84   48 
   3 Nott'm Forest            41   22   10    9   70   41   76   29 	UEFA
   4 Liverpool                40   20   11    9   63   33   71   30 	UEFA
   5 Newcastle Utd.           41   19   12   10   64   45   69   19 
   6 Leeds Utd.               40   19   12    9   55   36   69   19 
   7 Tottenham Hotspur        40   16   13   11   64   54   61   10 
   8 Q.P.R.                   41   16    9   16   58   57   57    1 
   9 Wimbledon                41   15   10   16   46   63   55  -17 
  10 Southampton              40   12   17   11   58   59   53   -1 
  11 Arsenal                  41   13   12   16   51   47   51    4 
  12 Chelsea                  41   12   15   14   48   54   51   -6 
  13 Man. City                41   12   13   16   51   61   49  -10 
  14 Sheffield Wed.           41   12   12   17   45   56   48  -11 
  15 Aston Villa              41   11   14   16   50   55   47   -5 
  16 West Ham Utd.            40   12   10   18   40   47   46   -7 
  17 Everton                  40   10   16   14   43   51   46   -8 
  18 Coventry City            40   11   13   16   41   61   46  -20 
---------------------------------------------------------------------
  19 Crystal Palace           40   11   12   17   31   43   45  -12 
  20 Norwich City             41   10   12   19   36   53   42  -17 	R
  21 Leicester City           41    6   10   25   43   78   28  -35 	R
  22 Ipswich Town             40    7    6   27   35   88   27  -53 	R

Remaining Fixtures:

Tonight:

Ipswich Town         v              Everton
Leeds United         v       Crystal Palace
Tottenham Hotspur    v        Coventry City

Tomorrow:

Manchester United    v          Southampton
West Ham United      v            Liverpool

Sunday:

Chelsea              v              Arsenal
Coventry City        v              Everton
Liverpool            v     Blackburn Rovers
Manchester City      v Queen's Park Rangers
Newcastle United     v       Crystal Palace
Norwich City         v          Aston Villa
Sheffield Wednesday  v         Ipswich Town
Southampton          v       Leicester City
Tottenham Hotspur    v         Leeds United
West Ham United      v    Manchester United
Wimbledon            v    Nottingham Forest
13.649Mine of Mindless InformationYUPPY::PATEMANRunnin' on EmptyTue May 09 1995 20:114
    Minor point - for some unknown reason the Wombles v Forest game is on
    Saturday.
    
    Paul
13.650Last nights gamesADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKWed May 10 1995 17:5638
       Ipswich Town       0  -  1    Everton            
       Leeds Utd.         3  -  1    Crystal Palace     
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  3    Coventry City      


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         41   27    8    6   79   37   89   42 
---------------------------------------------------------------------
   2 Man. Utd.                40   25    9    6   74   26   84   48 
   3 Nott'm Forest            41   22   10    9   70   41   76   29 	UEFA
   4 Leeds Utd.               41   20   12    9   58   37   72   21 
   5 Liverpool                40   20   11    9   63   33   71   30 	UEFA
   6 Newcastle Utd.           41   19   12   10   64   45   69   19 
   7 Tottenham Hotspur        41   16   13   12   65   57   61    8 
   8 Q.P.R.                   41   16    9   16   58   57   57    1 
   9 Wimbledon                41   15   10   16   46   63   55  -17 
  10 Southampton              40   12   17   11   58   59   53   -1 
  11 Arsenal                  41   13   12   16   51   47   51    4 
  12 Chelsea                  41   12   15   14   48   54   51   -6 
  13 Everton                  41   11   16   14   44   51   49   -7 
  14 Man. City                41   12   13   16   51   61   49  -10 
  15 Coventry City            41   12   13   16   44   62   49  -18 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Safe ^
  16 Sheffield Wed.           41   12   12   17   45   56   48  -11 
  17 Aston Villa              41   11   14   16   50   55   47   -5 
  18 West Ham Utd.            40   12   10   18   40   47   46   -7 
---------------------------------------------------------------------
  19 Crystal Palace           41   11   12   18   32   46   45  -14 
  20 Norwich City             41   10   12   19   36   53   42  -17 	R
  21 Leicester City           41    6   10   25   43   78   28  -35 	R
  22 Ipswich Town             41    7    6   28   35   89   27  -54 	R


Tonight:

Manchester United    v          Southampton
West Ham United      v            Liverpool
13.651Wednesday's resultsADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKMon May 15 1995 19:2928
       Man. Utd.          2  -  1    Southampton        
       West Ham Utd.      3  -  0    Liverpool          


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         41   27    8    6   79   37   89   42 
   2 Man. Utd.                41   26    9    6   76   27   87   49 
   3 Nott'm Forest            41   22   10    9   70   41   76   29 
   4 Leeds Utd.               41   20   12    9   58   37   72   21 
   5 Liverpool                41   20   11   10   63   36   71   27 
   6 Newcastle Utd.           41   19   12   10   64   45   69   19 
   7 Tottenham Hotspur        41   16   13   12   65   57   61    8 
   8 Q.P.R.                   41   16    9   16   58   57   57    1 
   9 Wimbledon                41   15   10   16   46   63   55  -17 
  10 Southampton              41   12   17   12   59   61   53   -2 
  11 Arsenal                  41   13   12   16   51   47   51    4 
  12 Chelsea                  41   12   15   14   48   54   51   -6 
  13 West Ham Utd.            41   13   10   18   43   47   49   -4 
  14 Everton                  41   11   16   14   44   51   49   -7 
  15 Man. City                41   12   13   16   51   61   49  -10 
  16 Coventry City            41   12   13   16   44   62   49  -18 
  17 Sheffield Wed.           41   12   12   17   45   56   48  -11 
  18 Aston Villa              41   11   14   16   50   55   47   -5 
  19 Crystal Palace           41   11   12   18   32   46   45  -14 
  20 Norwich City             41   10   12   19   36   53   42  -17 
  21 Leicester City           41    6   10   25   43   78   28  -35 
  22 Ipswich Town             41    7    6   28   35   89   27  -54 
13.652The last weekend - Congrats BlackburnADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKMon May 15 1995 19:3648
	Sat 13th

       Wimbledon          2  -  2    Nott'm Forest      

	Sun 14th

       Chelsea            2  -  1    Arsenal            
       Coventry City      0  -  0    Everton            
       Liverpool          2  -  1    Blackburn Rovers   
       Man. City          2  -  3    Q.P.R.             
       Newcastle Utd.     3  -  2    Crystal Palace     
       Norwich City       1  -  1    Aston Villa        
       Sheffield Wed.     4  -  1    Ipswich Town       
       Southampton        2  -  2    Leicester City     
       Tottenham Hotspur  1  -  1    Leeds Utd.         
       West Ham Utd.      1  -  1    Man. Utd.          


        Team Name            Pld   W    D    L    F    A   Pts   GD

   1 Blackburn Rovers         42   27    8    7   80   39   89   41 
---------------------------------------------------------------------
   2 Man. Utd.                42   26   10    6   77   28   88   49 
   3 Nott'm Forest            42   22   11    9   72   43   77   29 	UEFA
   4 Liverpool                42   21   11   10   65   37   74   28 	UEFA
   5 Leeds Utd.               42   20   13    9   59   38   73   21 	UEFA
   6 Newcastle Utd.           42   20   12   10   67   47   72   20 	UEFA???
   7 Tottenham Hotspur        42   16   14   12   66   58   62    8 
   8 Q.P.R.                   42   17    9   16   61   59   60    2 
   9 Wimbledon                42   15   11   16   48   65   56  -17 
  10 Southampton              42   12   18   12   61   63   54   -2 
  11 Chelsea                  42   13   15   14   50   55   54   -5 
  12 Arsenal                  42   13   12   17   52   49   51    3 
  13 Sheffield Wed.           42   13   12   17   49   57   51   -8 
  14 West Ham Utd.            42   13   11   18   44   48   50   -4 
  15 Everton                  42   11   17   14   44   51   50   -7 
  16 Coventry City            42   12   14   16   44   62   50  -18 
  17 Man. City                42   12   13   17   53   64   49  -11 
  18 Aston Villa              42   11   15   16   51   56   48   -5 
---------------------------------------------------------------------
  19 Crystal Palace           42   11   12   19   34   49   45  -15 	R
  20 Norwich City             42   10   13   19   37   54   43  -17 	R
  21 Leicester City           42    6   11   25   45   80   29  -35 	R
  22 Ipswich Town             42    7    6   29   36   93   27  -57 	R

Next week  is the F.A. Cup Final At Wembley:

Man Utd V Everton
13.653VNA03::HERIBERTMon May 15 1995 19:533
Is there any reason for this early end of the English championshipm ?

Heribert
13.654Because all the games have been played :-)ADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKMon May 15 1995 20:4712
Heribert,

The English league has always finished at the beginnning of May.

In fact up to a few (5?) years ago, it finished on the 1st Saturday in May with
the Cup final on the 2nd.

I remember one year league games being played after the Cup Final, which is what
I believe prompted the extension of the season, as the Cup final is supposed to
bring the club season to a close.

Al
13.655GYMAC::DCASSIDYMon May 15 1995 21:078
    
    In fact the Cup Final used to be the 1st Saturday in May...
    
    I suppose with the Euro'96 coming up the new season will start earlier.
    
    5th August perhaps ???
    
    Dezzz.
13.656CHEFS::EDWARDSDMon May 15 1995 21:306
    >I suppose with the Euro'96 coming up the new season will start
    >earlier.
    
    There are 4 fewer league games next season so I hope there's no need to
    start any earlier.  I think the fans, as well as the players, need a
    few months off !
13.657GYMAC::DCASSIDYTue May 16 1995 14:5212
    
    So we still will have 'Der Englisher Woche'.... (2 games a week)
    
    Interesting last night...expecting to find no football on Sky Sports
    last night I watched a little of the Standard 5-a-side tournament.
    A rather diminished turnout of quality...
    
    Wouldn't it be an idea to start tournaments like these in January and start
    the season 3 weeks earlier thus freeing up January for FA CUP 3rd and
    4th Round and indoor tournaments. 
    
	Dezzz.
13.658Play-offs UpdateADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKTue May 16 1995 18:2937
For those who have been on Mars for the last couple of days, and those in far
off foreign lands....

It may be over in the premiership, but there are 12 teams still battling it out
in the lower divisions for promotion through the play-offs.

The first legs of these games were played on Sunday with the following results:

Division 1

Tranmere	1 - 3	READING
Wolves		2 - 1	Bolton

Division 2

Bristol Rovers	0 - 0	Crewe
Huddersfield	1 - 1	Brentford

Division 3

Mansfield	1 - 1	Chesterfield
Preston NE	0 - 1	Bury


The return legs are on Wednesday evening ( 17 May)

The winners in each division will face each other at Wembley over the bank
Holiday Weekend

Division 3	Sat May 27
Division 2	Sun May 28
Division 1	Mon May 29	(Live on ITV)


Come on you Royals

Al
13.659Who are the 12 fired managers?LEMAN::SIMPSONStephen Simpson@GEO, DTN:821 5105Wed May 17 1995 23:4019
I read on the Swiss news wire that Horton has been 'thanked' for his services at
Manchester City, and that he is the TWELTH Premiership manager to be fired.
This job certainly has a high turnover rate.

It is easier to list the clubs that have not changed manager:


Which clubs have replaced their manager this season? I know about the following:


Everton
Arsenal
Manchester City
Crystal Palace
Leicester City
Spurs
QPR (not exactly 'fired')
Aston Villa
Coventry City
13.660Here's my attempt.MASALA::JADAMSCertified WinoThu May 18 1995 00:4528
    
    
    Re -.1
    
Which clubs have replaced their manager this season? I know about the following:
        
    	I'll have a go.
                               OUT                  IN
Everton                     Mike Walker            Joe Royle
Arsenal                     George Graham          Not Stuart Houston, but who?
Manchester City             Brian Horton           Rioch,Bassett,Mcarthy,Kidd...
Crystal Palace              Alan Smith             Ron Noades, the nutter
Leicester City              Brian Little           Mark McGhee
Spurs                       Ossie Ardiles          Gerry Francis
QPR (not exactly 'fired')   Gerry Francis          Ray Wilkins
Aston Villa                 Big Fat Ron            Brian Little
Coventry City               Phil Neal              BFR/Gordon Strachan
    
Ipswich                     John Lyall?            George Burley
Norwich                     John Deehan            Gary Megson, for now
West Ham                    Billy Bonds            Harry Redknapp
    
    	The only question I've got is, looking at the calibre of some of
    the managers in the OUT list (Not all them though, obviously-after all
    Phil Neal's in there), how is Trevor Francis managing to hold down his
    job? I realise that this has probably been a popular question around
    Hillsbro' for some time.                                     
13.661Play-Off 2nd LegsADDULT::ROBERTSONOSAKThu May 18 1995 14:3741
Division 1

READING		0 - 0	Tranmere
Aggr		3 - 1

Bolton		2 - 0	Wolves		AET
Aggr		3 - 2


Division 2

Crewe		1 - 1	Bristol Rovers	AET
Aggr		1 - 1
Bristol go through on away goals

Brentford	1 - 1	Huddersfield	AET
Aggr		2 - 2
Huddersfield go through 4-3 on penalties

Division 3

Chesterfield	5 - 2	Mansfield	AET
Aggr		6 - 3

Bury		1 - 0	Preston NE
Aggr		2 - 0


The Play-Off finals at Wembley will therefore be:

Division 3

Sat May 27	Bury		v	Chesterfield

Division 2

Sun May 28	Hudderfield	v	Bristol Rovers

Division 1

Mon May 29	READING		v	Bolton Wanderers	(Live on ITV)
13.662The first bit it true anyway! ;-)VYGER::REIDIal ra yekcohcTue Jul 18 1995 14:4713
13.663Oops, nearly forgot!VYGER::REIDIal ra yekcohcTue Jul 18 1995 15:027
    
    The Arsenal crisp which is flat, plain, and boring.  The Man Utd range,
    are mostly made up of bit from all around the world that no-one likes.
    
    Choppers
    
    *:@)
13.664Cantona's nuts!YUPPY::PANESNot even with yoursTue Jul 18 1995 15:170
13.665And then there's...VARESE::SACHA::IDC_BSTROh no! NOT Milan Kundera again!Tue Jul 18 1995 15:274
    The Crystal Palace flavour...accompanied by a letter giving 101 excuses
    for why they arrived in damaged condition ;-)
    
    Dom
13.666And there's more....VYGER::REIDIal ra yekcohcTue Jul 18 1995 15:3311
    
    Rangers are also adding to their Bluenose Pakora, and Championees pies,
    by bringing out a special kind of crisps.  
    
    You can eat 7 or 8 packs in-a-row, but never be able to get 9-in-a-row!
    
    Choppers
    
    *:@)
    
    
13.667Some mileage in this I would say ...AYOV29::MTHEODORESONI'm not long for this worldTue Jul 18 1995 15:337
    
    	The Man Utd crisps are reissued in a different colour bag every
    fortnight or so ...
    
    	When you open the Arsenal crisps they all come out and appeal for
    offside ...
    
13.668ADDULT::ROBERTSONThere's always next year!!!Tue Jul 18 1995 15:485
The Newcastle crisps are delicious to start with, but aren't so good at the
bottom.

Sheffield Wed. Crisps have a seal that can only be broken after Christmas.

13.669More crisps ...AYOV29::MTHEODORESONI'm not long for this worldWed Jul 19 1995 13:3414
    
    	Liverpool crisps are soft ...
    
    	Chelsea crisps are hard ...
    
    	Everton crisps are expensive and not worth the money ...
    
    	Manchester City crisps have a free manager in every packet ...
    
    	Wimbledon crisps should not be eaten. Instead just boot them as far
    down the pitch as you possibly can ...
    (And watch out for that Vinnie Jones when you are doing this. He has
    been known to grab peoples nuts ...)
    
13.670CHEFS::STRATFORDSSouth of HellWed Jul 19 1995 13:5610
    On the subject of crap merchandising, on the weekly food trip to
    Safeways I espied merchandising gone mental. The Premiership have
    reached a deal with Wilkinson Sword whereby you can buy a Wilkinson
    Sword Protector Razor with your favourite Premiership teams club crest
    on the handle.
    
    Next time you cut yourself when shaving, you really can say that your
    club is bleeding you dry.
    
    Stuart
13.671CHEFS::GEORGEMlived eht pihsroWWed Jul 19 1995 14:535
groan.

Stuart "Les Dennis' scriptwriter" Stratford unleashes another corker...

8)
13.672Stroppy noteAYOV29::MTHEODORESONI'm not long for this worldWed Jul 19 1995 16:0324
    > Stuart "Les Dennis' scriptwriter" Stratford unleashes another corker

    	With all due respect Matt at least he TRIES. If you think you can
    do so much better you are very welcome to have a go.

    	And that goes for a lot of people in here. The likes of me and the
    Stuarts etcetera expend a lot of brain cells keeping you lot amused. I
    want to see a bit more participation in this file, close season or not.

    	It's already a lot funnier than the HUMOR notesfile which is 90%
    the biggest load of self-centred codswallop I have ever had the
    misfortune to read. (However the Dave Barry notesfile has me rolling
    round the office. I think it must be because of their very strict
    rules.) With a bit of work (and thought too please) this could be the
    best notesfile in the world, probably.

    	And another thing. I know for a fact there are too many read-onlies
    out there (yes I mean you Robert and Billy to name but two). It's a
    pretty feeble excuse that there is no note for your team. Create one !
    Above all let's have a bit more input pur-lease !

    Malc.

13.673OK, I'll startVIRGIN::ASHGrahame Ash @RLEWed Jul 19 1995 16:127
Morning, Malc,

Whassamarra - kicked out of bed last night?

Cheers,

grahame
13.674Couldn't resist......CHEFS::CROSSAWed Jul 19 1995 16:219
    Graeme,
    
    At least Malc got kicked out !!! With a node name like that I would not
    be to questioning of his sleeping habits.....
    
                     Cheap_ shot_Stretch.
    
    
    
13.675How yer diddlin?YUPPY::OHAGANBWed Jul 19 1995 16:5810
    Malc,  
    
    I do believe Matt was being a bit dry, sarcastic etc etc and he 
    does his fair bit of light entertaining in here (please send the
    cheque to me at Digital at Kleinwort Benson. London EC3M please 
    Mr George). 
    
    Yours,
    
    Bobby Chariot.
13.676Response to Mal "Stuart Lover" Theodoreson...VARESE::SACHA::IDC_BSTROh no! NOT Milan Kundera again!Wed Jul 19 1995 17:1122
    
    >And that goes for a lot of people in here. The likes of me and the
    >Stuarts etcetera expend a lot of brain cells keeping you lot amused. I
    >want to see a bit more participation in this file, close season or not.
    
    Well, I paid you lip service yesterday, Malc...and I wasn't too
    impressed with the reply I got (32.5984). In fact, if you hadn't
    remembered to put a smiley on the end, your noting days would probably
    be numbered (my friends call me Dom Corleone).
    
    Anyway, I hope you're not referring to me because I have always played
    my part(s?), whether it be in the hi-jacking of the QPR note (the
    cricket debate of last year), the Bristol City "anything goes" note,
    and the crisps packaging topic note that dominated proceedings
    yesterday. 
    
    >And another thing. I know for a fact there are too many read-onlies
    >out there (yes I mean you Robert and Billy to name but two). 
    
    Not to mention Charlie, Eddie and Bernie...
    
    Dom
13.677Ok ok ...AYOV29::MTHEODORESONI'm not long for this worldWed Jul 19 1995 17:1316
    
    	Aye fair enough. I didn't mean to go over the top, I was just a bit
    bored and suffering withdrawal symptoms from the close season. This is
    the only notesfile I keep real tabs on and I was just trying to drum up
    a bit more activity.
    
    	But on the other hand I do stand by the general gist of my note.
    It seems to me that only a hard core nucleus of people write stuff in
    here whereas it would be far better for all of us if we could get news
    and views from a much wider spread of people. If nothing else it gives
    the rest of us more people to slag.
    
    	So get typing folks. If you have no news feel free to make it up ...
    
    Your_friendly_neighbourhood_Malc.
    
13.678OK, I'll set the ball rolling...VARESE::SACHA::IDC_BSTROh no! NOT Milan Kundera again!Wed Jul 19 1995 17:193
    Inter had their pre-season get together yesterday.
    
    Dom Turner, News at 10, Milan
13.679Okay, a genuine news story;CHEFS::GEORGEMlived eht pihsroWWed Jul 19 1995 17:465
Rangers have demanded the head of their lawyer on a plate, as they checked the 
transfer papers and found out that Bamber Gasgoine has actually retired from 
football. 

Don Howe.
13.680oooohhh....it's good but not roight.....CHEFS::GEORGEMlived eht pihsroWWed Jul 19 1995 18:255
Oh, and re .672, I think Stuart knows that I'm taking the piss, and not 
attempting to insult him (subtle difference).  Spot the smiley in the bottom 
left corner of the note, too.

Matt$Roy_Walker's_script_writer.
13.681That's not a smiley, it's a frog (I think)AYOV29::MTHEODORESONI'm not long for this worldWed Jul 19 1995 18:331
    
13.682CHEFS::GEORGEMlived eht pihsroWWed Jul 19 1995 18:381
It's a fair representation of what my smile looks like when my teeth are out...
13.683Does that also cause your nose to disappear ?AYOV29::MTHEODORESONI'm not long for this worldWed Jul 19 1995 18:411
    
13.684CHEFS::GEORGEMlived eht pihsroWWed Jul 19 1995 18:441
I raise my lower lip over my nose in a gurning-type expression.
13.685I see. In that case I apologise ...AYOV29::MTHEODORESONI'm not long for this worldWed Jul 19 1995 18:471
    
13.686it's in the REcord so it must be true..8)IRNBRU::HOWARDLovely day for a GuinnessMon Jul 24 1995 19:067
    A report in today's Daily Record says that Oxford scientists have
    PROVED that Geoff Hurst's shot didn't cross the line in the '66 World
    Cup final, so there!!..we were right all along....if the English FA
    have any decency at all they'll surely hand all the winners medals to
    the German FA
    
    Ray....  8^h)
13.687Old hat mateyCHEFS::STRATFORDSDisconnect brain from mouthMon Jul 24 1995 19:085
    Ray
    
    That report was in the Sunday Times yesterday. Who cares? 
    
    Stuart
13.688A SHIRT OF ENGLISH LEAGUE FOR SALE ...VAXRIO::MCASTROTue Aug 08 1995 16:3011
    
    Hi all,
    
    I want adcure a shirt of ENGLISH LEAGUE, if somebody to know something,
    please contact me.
    
    Vaxmail - VAXRIO::MCASTRO
    
    Thank
                                                            
    Marcelo.
13.689RTOEU::MBOHNERFCBsupporterThu Sep 07 1995 15:3917
    Hi all,
    
    I want to come to London with my friends after Christmas this year.
    We want to see many grounds and games of all leagues, for that reason
    we need the fixture list of all four leagues with the exactly kick off
    times. I already wrote to the football association for about 3 weeks,
    but till today I get no answer. We need them soon because we want to
    reserve our rooms in the hotel.
    
    
    Can anyone in this conference help me to get the lists or can give me
    further information?
    Please contact me or answer with a reply.
    RTOEU::MBOHNER
    
    markusFCB_groundhopping_rules 
                        
13.690MOEUR8::SMITHWed Sep 27 1995 20:362
    
    Have there been any games in the English league recently?
13.691HELLO.....!MOEUR8::SMITHMon Oct 02 1995 20:162
    
    Ditto my previous reply...
13.692VNACO1::HERIBERTTue Oct 03 1995 11:4022
  1. NEWCASTELE	    8  7  0  1   ?   21
  2. ASTON VILLA    8  5  2  1 12:5  17
  3. MANCHESTER U.  8  5  2  1 16:10 17
  4. LIVERPOOL      8  5  1  2 15:7  16
  5. LEEDS          8  5  1  2 14:9  16
  6. ARSENAL        8  4  3  1 10:5  15
  7. MIDDLESBROUGH  8  4  3  1  9:4  15
  8. NOTTINGHAM     8  3  5  0 14:9  14
  9. TOTTENHAM      8  4  2  2 14:11 14
 10. CHELSEA        8  3  3  2  9:7  12
 11. WIMBLEDON      8  3  1  4 13:16 10
 12. Q.P.RANGERS    8  3  0  5  7:12  9
 13. SHEFFIELD W.   8  2  2  4  8:11  8
 14. EVERTON        8  2  1  5 10:13  7
   . BLACKBURN      8  2  1  5 10:13  7
 16. WEST HAM       8  1  3  4  7:11  6
 17. SOUTHAMPTON    8  1  3  4  7:14  6
 18. COVENTRY       8  1  3  4  7:17  6
 19. BOLTON         8  1  1  6  8:18  4
 20. MANCHESTER C.  8  0  1  7  3:14  1

In my table in Austria I haven no score of Newcastle (curious). 
13.693Thank you very much...MOEUR8::SMITHTue Oct 03 1995 11:556
    
    How strange, it takes an Austrian to update this note!  And what a
    pleasant surprise, West Ham are no longer second from bottom!!!
    
    Cheers,
    Ian
13.694ZUR01::ASHGrahame Ash @RLETue Oct 03 1995 15:196
Heribert,

My (Swiss) paper doesn't have Newcastle's goals either. This can only be 
because as we're 4 points ahead of the rest, who cares what the goaldiff is?!

grahame
13.695ADDULT::ROBERTSONYou are only coming through in wavesTue Oct 03 1995 15:275
Some of us have work to do!!!

I'll enter scores etc. in a mo.

Al
13.696Surely not? ;-)MOEUR8::SMITHWed Oct 04 1995 13:445
    
    Wow, someone in this conference - any conference for that matter! -
    with work to do...
    
    Can this be?
13.697I thought he 'worked' for MIG?AIMTEC::WICKS_AAtlanta's Most (In)famous WelshmanWed Oct 04 1995 20:001
    find out what group that man is in and have a word with his manager!
13.698ADDULT::ROBERTSONYou are only coming through in wavesThu Oct 05 1995 14:3311
>I thought he 'worked' for MIG?

You are correct Andrew, and I'm glad to see you put the inverted commas around
worked. You don't usually see WORK & MIG in the same sentence ;-)

After a couple of weeks of bedlam, things have got back to normal thankfully,
and I can use my definition of work to the full again:

Work : Reading through Notes conferences all day ;-)

Al
13.699on the WebPLAYER::LESOILMon Oct 16 1995 15:325
    
    English football results on the Web (NOS Dutch teletext) :
    
    Results : http://www.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/tt/nos/page/681-1
    Table   : http://www.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/tt/nos/page/681-2
13.700Did West Ham play/win/score - I wonder?MOEUR8::SMITHTue Oct 17 1995 13:465
    
    Another weekend without matches I see!  I wonder, is this the English
    'winter' break they've been talking about for so long?
    
    Ian
13.701CHEFS::EDWARDSDTue Oct 17 1995 13:587
    >-< Did West Ham play/win/score - I wonder? >-
    
    Ian,
    
    West Ham won 1-0 at Wimbledon last night.  Cottee scored, Dicks was
    awarded motm by Trevor Francis.
    
13.702ADDULT::ROBERTSONYou are only coming through in wavesThu Oct 19 1995 16:398
The Premiership results are being posted in 496 this season!!

Al


FYI just found a useful Net page:

"http://soccernet.com/soccfile/results.html"
13.703Diego wows Oxbridge....IRNBRU::HOWARDLovely Day for a GuinnessTue Nov 07 1995 18:2465
Diego Maradona enchants Oxford - 1995/11/07

 DIEGO MARADONA last night gave a command performance in the 
most unusual arena of his entire career. The 35-year-old Argentinian 
was the guest speaker at a special meeting staged by the famous 
Oxford Union Debating Society. 
 

 A massive crowd filled the auditorium which has become the 
traditional gateway to the corridors of power, with 300 on the floor and 
as many again in the gallery. 
 

 Such was the demand to see the man who returned to soccer in 
September after a 15-month ban imposed after a positive drug test 
during the 1994 World Cup, that the event did not get under way until 
50 minutes after the scheduled kick-off time. 
 

 Maradona, in a smart suit and sporting one blond streak in his hair, 
gave a passionate lecture, talking about his rise from a shanty town on 
the outskirts of Buenos Aires to the centre of the world soccer stage. 
 

 And he made it clear that his experiences at the hands of the 
businessmen now running the game necessitated his formation earlier 
this year of an international players' union. 
 

 ``With the evolution of the communications media, players began to 
be recognised all over the world,'' recalled Maradona. 
 

 ``At the start there was a difference between sport and business but it 
soon became the business of sport. 
 

 ``When I grew up I was obsessed with the words `football player, 
football player'. That is all I wanted to be. 
 

 ``Now at the age of 35 I want all players to be able to say: `Let us get 
on with what we love - playing football'.'' 
 

 After his 50-minute lecture, Maradona, flanked by his two young 
daughters, answered a series of questions from the student audience 
including those about that famous game in the Azteca Stadium in 
1986. 
 

 The question about the first goal, when his left hand propelled the ball 
beyond Peter Shilton, was shrugged aside. 
 

 ``At the time it cured everything,'' he said. ``It was a huge game in the 
World Cup and suddenly it went against England. But I would have 
done it against any other country. 
 

 To finish off Maradona showed his juggling skills are still unsurpassed 
as he controlled a golf ball on his instep and then balanced a football 
on his head. 
 
Copyright, The Irish Times
13.704Sarcasm, this late in the day !!!CHEFS::RUTHERFORDIA)bort R)etry F)*** It !!Tue Nov 07 1995 18:3410
    
    >> To finish off Maradona showed his juggling skills are still
       unsurpassed as he controlled a golf ball on his instep and then 
       balanced a football on his head.
    
    
       That'll come in handy then !!!
    
    
    	ian.
13.705CHEFS::CROSSANuns! Reverse! Reverse! Fri Aug 09 1996 16:3312
    Off IRN....
    
         2nd division Plymouth have announced the signing of Southampton's 
         controversial goalkeeper Bruce Grobellaar, who's now 38. 
          
         Grobbelaar has signed a 12 months contract and makes his debut in
         a friendly tommorrow against Manchester City. 
          
         Grobellaar is still waiting to go on trial with John Fashanu and 
         Hans Segers over the match fixing scandal that erupted 2 years
         ago.
        
13.706What have nuclear scientists got to do with this!?!??!CHEFS::CROSSAAs Bob is my witless!Mon Jan 20 1997 16:1318
13.707can't find the balckburn noteCHEFS::16.43.128.218::MadOpen Fire, Number One !!!Mon Jan 20 1997 16:5313
13.708Reportds that this provoked the 17 man brawl are unconfirmed!!!CHEFS::CROSSAAs Bob is my witless!Wed Jan 22 1997 17:3221
13.709It's got my voteCHEFS::16.43.128.47::MadOpen Fire, Number One !!!Wed Jan 22 1997 17:4412
13.710Who are you casting aspetions on?CHEFS::CROSSAAs Bob is my witless!Wed Jan 22 1997 18:3612
13.711WC2006????IRNBRU::HOWARDShower me with sugar lumpsTue Feb 04 1997 11:364
    Any thoughts on the current fight between UEFA and the English FA over
    the 2006 World Cup?...
    
    Ray....
13.712Missed the Sun this morningZUR01::ASHGGrahame Ash @RLETue Feb 04 1997 14:183
What's the story? Is it something about UEFA having "promised" it to Germany?

grahame
13.713Donner Und Blitzen!VARESE::TRNUX1::IDC_BSTRTue Feb 04 1997 14:2810
>What's the story? Is it something about UEFA having "promised" it to Germany?
    
    That's about the size of it. Those dastardly Brits (with John Major at
    the helm) have accused UEFA in no uncertain terms of "pushing"
    Germany's candidacy. Quite whether the insinuation was that UEFA should
    have pushed England/Scotland's candidacy was unclear (to me, at least).
    
    Seriously, I don't see why the issue isn't left entirely up to FIFA.
    
    Dom
13.714GYMAC::DCASSIDYThu Feb 06 1997 19:0928
    
    A few interesting aspects here....
    
    1. UEFA feel that Germany's bid would be most likely to achieve a
    result as far as bringing the World Cup to Europe.
    2. It is obvious at this stage that with the giant Kirch group behind
    the helm as far as TV rights are concerned, UEFA will get enough
    backhanders to make it worth their while. 
    3. Germany is going through a serious image crisis on the international
    economic front (similar to the UK in the seventies) so I'm sure
    companies like Siemens, Daimler, Allianz (Muenchener Verein) have also
    been involved in some big money assurances. Granted it is some 9/10
    years off but with the way sport is increasingly becoming as important
    in people's lives as anything else...now's the time to make the move.
    
    Instead of Major and Blair crying about it and David Mellor saying its
    a disgrace..how about large British multi_n companies coming out to the
    FA and UEFA showing their financial support etc etc...
    
    I admit is is a bit underhand of UEFA to do what they did but it is a
    bit hypocritical of a lot of English people who complain about it
    whilst I heard from the very same lips that the English Rugby Union's
    decision to go along with the original SKY TV plan was justified as
    England was where the money and major interest in the Five nations
    was...
    
    
    Dezzz.  
13.715UEFA backhanders to no availMILE::JENKINSThu Feb 06 1997 19:579
    
    Hi Dezzz....
    
    But what's it got to do with UEFA anyway? FIFA select who will be
    the hosts.... Bids in by 1998.
    
    Richard.
    
    
13.716It gets worse, not better...VARESE::TRNUX1::IDC_BSTRThu Feb 06 1997 20:0614
    >But what's it got to do with UEFA anyway? FIFA select who will be
    >the hosts.... Bids in by 1998.
    
    Pretty much what I think. The last 30 odd years have seen a handful of
    countries enforce a near monopoly over the Olympic Games/World
    Cup/European Championships. Germany last staged a World Cup little over
    20 years ago (for those of you north of the border, England's last World 
    Cup was 31 years ago ;-)). If UEFA really are going to have a say in
    the matter, couldn't they put their considerable meat behind (say) a
    Dutch/Belgian joint bid?
    
    After all, we have a Hungarian Gran Prix... ;-)
    
    Dom
13.717EurocentrismCHEFS::KIRKPATRICKJD'you want some?Fri Feb 07 1997 11:2010
    
    Why should the World Cup be staged in Europe in 2006? France are
    hosting the next Finals in 1998 and, correct me if I'm wrong, but
    France is in Europe. What about Africa or, indeed, South America?
    
    Football supporters like to proclaim their sport as the world's most
    popular game - if so, should the World Cup not be hosted in the four
    corners of the Earth?
    
    j. 
13.718RDGENG::MORRELLFri Feb 07 1997 11:347
    >What about Africa or, indeed, South America?
    
    Can they really afford to hold the competition?
    
    Cheers,
    
    	Rick,
13.719Brazilian Bid ?CHEFS::16.37.8.20::MadThis is Mutiny !!, Mr Christian.Fri Feb 07 1997 12:2712
Re Africa etc.

 Heard on the Radio yesterday that Brazil/Argentina are going to bid for it as 
well..



 That would be a bummer, Brazil are good enough, lets not give them home 
advantage as well............8-)


Mad
13.720GYMAC::DCASSIDYFri Feb 07 1997 18:067
    What has it to do with UEFA ??
    
    Well they have a vested interest in the WC coming to Europe so they are
    voicing their opinion...
    
    
    Dezzz.
13.721UEFA for shortMILE::JENKINSFri Feb 07 1997 19:124
    
    Uninformed Egotistical F***ing Administrators
    
    
13.722from today's Irish Times....IRNBRU::HOWARDShower me with sugar lumpsWed Mar 26 1997 16:3588
13.723info........CHEFS::16.37.8.189::Madyou poor mis-guided foolsTue May 20 1997 12:1521
FOOTBALL Striker Les Ferdinand's the latest withdrawal from England's summer 
matches. 

The Newcastle star goes into hospital on Thursday for a groin operation which 
rules him out of the next five games, including the World Cup qualifier in 
Poland on May 31st. 

Manager Glenn Hoddle's already consdering a replacement especially with fears 
over the fitness of Liverpool striker Robbie Fowler following his nose 
operation. 

..................................................................... 

Paul Gascoigne's declared himself fit and ready for England after his latest 
testimonial appearance. 

A sell-out 5,770 crowd watched fit-again Gazza play in a benefit for former 
Newcastle team-mate Wes Saunders at Torquay, his last game before teaming up 
with the England squad today. 

Gascoigne's team which included Sunderland's Chris Waddle in goal won 8-6.