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Conference quokka::non_custodial_parents

Title:Welcome to the Non-Custodial Parents Conference
Notice:Please read 1.* before writing anything
Moderator:MIASYS::HETRICK
Created:Sun Feb 25 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:420
Total number of notes:4370

279.0. "what to expect from child services investigation" by WFOV12::TORRES_JIMMY () Thu Sep 02 1993 08:36

    I was in court this past tuesday. the x is trying to get full custody
    but no luck. but the judge order a a vestingation on me and her and on
    my 12 year old daughter to find how she feels. how much wieght does my
    duaghter carrie on this and everthing else. what would I expect from
    the child services to look for? need some advice.
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279.1AIMHI::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaThu Sep 02 1993 10:365
    You daughter calls the shots. She is just about of that age where she
    can legally go from mom to dads abode. She says she wants to live with
    dad. Its a done deal, if she wants to live with mom. Its a done deal.
    
    
279.2CSC32::HADDOCKDon't Tell My Achy-Breaky BackThu Sep 02 1993 11:4016
    re .0
    
    They will probably do an interview with both of you, and will check 
    school records, etc to see how she's doing in school.  The daughter's 
    opinion will carry a lot of weight at her age.  

    We had one of these done for my second custody try.  The kids were
    me for the summer and told us all summer they wanted to stay.  I
    filed for change.  The they went back home and she made nice to
    them until after the interview and they thought things were going
    to change there.  Then after the interview, booom.  But because
    they said they wanted to stay there during the interview, the judge
    gave a lot of weight to the investigation,  or at least used that
    as part of his excuse.

    fred();
279.3What did the judge say?AKOCOA::BBLANCHARDThu Sep 02 1993 13:2611
    This may be different because he already has 50% physical custody.
    Unless his child says she no longer wants to spend 50% of her time with
    Dad, I don't think the judge has any reason to change the arrangement,
    but who can be sure about these things.  
    
    Did the judge instruct your ex to let you have the children during the
    times you are supposed to have them?  Or does she think that she can
    withold visitation until the investigation is over?  How did the judge
    leave the visitation issue?
    -bb
    
279.4reply from the judgeWFOV12::TORRES_JIMMYThu Sep 02 1993 14:069
    the judge said it should be the same until the investigation is over
    then the judge will make up him/her mind depending what the child
    services says. my 12 yr.old daughter is very confuse but it seems that
    she is
    scare of losing her mother that she might side with her.if she does not
    what to change then it might stay the same. how can the child services
    do any recommendation if both parents are responsible and what make a
    change of custody? the judge order a 45 days investigation. what can i
    do or my hands are tied.
279.5AIMHI::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaThu Sep 02 1993 15:221
    Hands are tied, feet are tied, tongue is tied.....:)
279.6Resume normal 50% custodyAKOCOA::BBLANCHARDThu Sep 02 1993 15:3045
    Child services will be reluctant to change the arrangement unless there
    is a specific reason to do so such as:
    
    1. Daughter says she doesn't wish to spend 50% of her time with you, and
    wants instead to live with mother full time and visit you.
    
    2. Mother will try to use your missed weeks to say that you are not
    sticking to the agreement, and are unstable, etc.  You should be able
    to explain to the investigator along the same lines that Fred
    recommended in the earlier note, that you were going through very
    rough and stressful problems and that you felt that even though you
    wanted your daughter with you very much during that time, you felt it
    would be unhealthy for her to have to endure your problems.  But that as
    quickly as you could resolve your issues you tried to continue the normal
    50% custodial arrangement and your ex prevented your resumption and
    took you to court.  I also assume that you had an agreement with your 
    ex that she would keep the daughter during those weeks that you were
    unable to because of your problems, and you should also explain that to
    the investigator.   Make sure that from here on out you take
    the child every time you are supposed to have her.  If you are busy
    then arrange for a relative or friend to keep her during the time you
    are busy, do no leave her with the mother during any of your scheduled
    time unless your are in the hospital or something equal, treat your
    relationship with the mother strictly as a business agreement.
    
    Realize that this wasn't like you left the child with a known child
    molester or anything, you left her with her mother during the few weeks
    you were resolving your problems, who could you trust more to care for
    her then her mother during that time!
    
    3. Mother somehow manages to prove that the child is in physical or
    emotional jeopardy while in your custody.  I'd say that your recent
    actions were taken to prevent the child being in emotional jeopardy.
    
    Child services generally does not wish to stick their neck out to
    change an order that a judge put in place, unless they have accusations
    of child abuse or molestation, or other really bad stuff against you,
    or you go to Jail for a period of time, or abandon the child, etc.
    In fact I've been impressed by the fact that child services won't
    move children even when they are in danger!  These folks are
    just about useless when considering the best interest of the children,
    they tend to leave children with abusive parents until they are killed.
    
    Good luck.