Conference quark::mennotes-v1

    re:-1
    Are you insinuating that women don't?.
    
    I regulary find copies of 'Seventeen','No 1' (my eldest daughter),
    'Bunty','Tracy','Beano' (my youngest daughter) and 'Ideal Home',
    'Cosmopolitan' (my wife) on the floor of the loo.
    Me, release note of VMS V4.9, Sci Fi, Railway Modeller, Model Railway News. 
                     
    David Banks (TMCUK2::BANKS)
    

    Where else can one go and spend a few leisurely moments reading
    without fear of being interrupted?
    
    Edd
    
    P.S. Ever notice how Reader's Digest articles are just
         the "right" length?

    i think i have it by George !!!
    
    how many people even have a library !!!
    

    Women DO use the bathroom as a library.  At our house, there is
    a wide assortment of magazines ("Yoga Journal", "Newsweek", "Glamour")
    in the guest bathroom.  In addition, there is a "bathroom guest
    book" which contains anecdotes relating to toilets/bathrooms and
    a place for all readers to sign in and comment.  Some people are
    inhibited about signing it but some make outrageous comments. 
    I get bored without something to read.
    
    My mother-in-law always has magazines in her bathroom which she claims
    she uses to escape the noise generated by her 7 children.
    
    SHL

    
    
    It's about the only time I get to sit down in peace!
    
    "Easyriders"
    
    "Supercycle"
    
    "Smithsonian"
    
    And I do have a Library.
    
    Cal.
    

    
    	A daily reading of Playboy in the library is like a day with
    sunshine.
    
    Todd

    
    	I got video arcade games installed in my bathroom.
    
    	Jake

    since i was a kid the bathroom has always been the best place to
    read only problem is my legs tend to fall asleep in a few minutes.
    you end up leaving the bathroom with a monty python silly walk :')
    also i noticed that in a manufacturing facitily there was always
    enough light over the stalls but now that i work in engineering
    there aren't. was this done on purpose?

    
    My Freudian friends have a simple answer: when you read you
    are taking something in to compensate for what you lose.
    Purportedly an extension of the anal complex. Besides,
    the bathroom is the quietest, safest, most private place
    to read. Our nickname for it is "the think tank."
        

	You all are lucky.  In my family, it was traditional that you were 
left in peace in the bathroom.  Unfortunately, my wife does not see it that 
way.  Asking, telling and yelling haven't improved the situation.  Maybe some 
home improvement is needed?

    Re: 16.12 In my world,those are reasonable grounds for divorce.
    A person's loo is his/her castle(read library).
    Peace & quiet seems to be the consensus.
    
    --Robin

    When I was a kid, we had a hamper in the bathroom.  My Dad would
    move it right up to his knees and use it as a table for his books.
    
    In my home, there's no room for a hamper.  But, I do have a sliding
    shower door with a towel rack on the outside.  It's perfect for
    handing a folded newspaper on, but books still have to be held.
    
    We do refer to this room as the library in my house, kids included.
    But I haven't really noticed that my daughters read in there, just
    my son always scurrying about for "something to read".
    
    As previously mentioned, Reader's Digest is perfect, not only for
    the length of the article, but also because it's easy to hold.
    
    I can still hear my mother telling us that "Dad's on the throne!"
    
    Lee

Re: privacy in the loo:

    When a good friend and I are having a particularly interesting
    conversation and one of us has to go to the bathroom, the other
    usually tags along and keeps talking, or (with others) the bathroom
    door is left enough ajar so we can keep talking.
    
    Keywords here are: _good_ friend (usually another woman), and
    particularly interesting conversation.
    
    My dad and brothers always spent a long time reading on the john,
    too, much more time than my mom or me.  My theory is that women
    always sit when they "go", so it isn't as much of a "treat" to sit
    for a long time on the john.  In my family, the boys usually stood
    up, so when they infrequently (comparatively) needed to sit, they
    sort of luxuriated in the opportunity.
    
    Probably horsefeathers (that theory), but then again, it was developed
    my a seven-year-old me.

    Lee

1	For what it is worth, in the UK, it is regarded as rank bad manners 
	to endevour to hold a conversation with someone on the bog.

2	The reason why many men spent longer "sitting" is because that is the
	only place (because it is bad mannaers) where a man can get some peace!


Richard.

    My personal opinion is that men use the bathroom as a refuge, and
    that they take reading material with them because it's about the
    only logical thing to do while sitting on the toilet.  They're just
    trying to get away from the family, or their work, or whatever.

	My favorite reading material is MAD magazine, and always keep a
copy on the back of the toilet.  I, however, don't refer to it as the
'library', for reasons of obvious confusion ("I'm going to the library."),
but instead as the 'Reading Room'.

    
    	I grab anything handy to read; otherwise I'm too bored and can't
    stand the thought of wasting time staring at the tiles, or the little
    fishies or duckies on the shower stall curtain...
    	I have also been known to haul the phone in there when I have
    either one long call to make, or a bunch of "errand"-type calls;
    I guess the next logical step is to install a terminal and hook
    up a modem...

    
    re Mad
    
    My kid (8yrs) had one in hand Friday when I picked him up.
    
    He studies the rag like a textbook (its as disgusting as it was
    when I used to read it -;)...

    I guess I will be the voice of dissent.  When growing up, my mom
    would not allow any reading in the bathroom.  She considered it "bad
    taste".  We were supposed to go in there, do our "duty" and leave.
     No loitering in there.  To this day, I do not read in there and
    neither do my wife or kids.  I have tried but find it too
    uncomfortable, legs fall asleep.  REading in the bathtub is another
    thing.  I have tried it, but usually get things all wet. So for
    me, the bathroom is strictly functional.  Do what you have to do
    and get out.  I get a kick out of the advertisements that show the
    bathroom something akin to a parlor with lounge chairs, tables,
    lamps, etc.  Most of today's bathrooms seem too small for anything
    like that.
    
    Oh well, there is always one in a crowd and I guess that will have
    to be me this time.
                       

    
    I have a pile of workshop manuals in my loo, some 4x4 truck books,
    Practical Householder, The book of Small Gardens, my latest tax form,
    some kitchen unit brochures, several coffee cups and a huge spider.
    
    In my last house I spent so much time in there that I had to install a
    telephone next to the throne (it WAS a good selling point, would you
    believe?), but in this house I have to make do with the cordless.
    
    Only problem is, now I have to use Germoloids ointment rather
    a lot......I put that down to sitting on wet motorcycle saddles a lot
    when I was younger, but maybe 2 hours a day on the hot-seat has
    something to do with it........
    
    Les

    re-.1
    Try a warm sitz bath with epsom. [insert smily](broken shift0 key
    
    -j

    Re: -1,
    
    Kinda hard in a shower, eh? Can't remember the last time I had a bath
    (oops, that doesn't sound too good, mmm?), but I'll give it a go.
    
    Ta much,
    
    	Les