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Title:Topics Pertaining to Men
Notice:Archived V1 - Current file is QUARK::MENNOTES
Moderator:QUARK::LIONEL
Created:Fri Nov 07 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 26 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:867
Total number of notes:32923

443.0. "play ball with kids" by HPSTEK::CONTRACTOR () Tue Apr 10 1990 14:48

    
    my son has been playing league baseball for 5 years starting with
    minor league, then little league and now he is in babe ruth league.
    
    here is the problem.
    
    i was going to go up as a coach of a team after they had their draft
    the manager who had fifth pick was going to pick him and then i was
    going to be a coach on that team.well my ex-wifes boy-friend coaches
    on another team that picked third and they picked him before we could.
    i have been his coach for all 5 years he has played and he is good at
    it the four years he has played in little league he made alstars and
    last year he pitched three no-hitters. i feel it alot of this was due
    to the extra time that i put in with and his own will to be the best
    at his game he is very competive.
    not to run on but how hard is this going to be to see my ex's
    boyfriend spending this prime time with him when i feel it should
    be me i've talked to him (my son )and told him how i feel and that
    i will still help him all i can but this will be for the next three
    years how would you handle this
    
    
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443.1Another FatherFTMUDG::RAYERYou were my only cuddly toy.(sp)Tue Apr 10 1990 15:3716
"Little league, is it an adult game or is this a game for the kids."    

I remember the times my son played ball.I coach,wife ran the concession
stand, it seemed nice to get involved. 

The parents of the kids in little league seemed more involved in the game than 
the kids. The parents were at each others throats during the games. Some of the 
kids in the outfield looked like they were in a world of there own. Some kids 
did'nt want to play, its just that there parents thought they should play.

After all this I would suggest you sit back and enjoy your son, help him as 
much as possible to keep him interested in the sport. Don't worry who's 
coaching. Just be there to support him while he's playing, he knows who his 
father is.

From another Father,
443.2stay with your sonASABET::EHNSTROMTue Apr 10 1990 19:146
    
    
    	Agree with -1.  Don't get caught up in the game... get caught up in
    your boy; it works better that way.
    				Thom Terriffic
    
443.3IT'S NOT THE GAME - IT'S HOW WELL YOU FATHER!SUBWAY::JBARNESThu Apr 12 1990 18:2339
    Agree with.1 & .2
    
    I have two sons that were involved in football, baseball and basketball
    from the time they were eight all the way thru college. At times I
    coached the teams they played on and on other occasions they were
    coached by others.
    
    If I had it to do again..... I got to see more of them when they were
    coached by others, they had less peer pressure because they weren't the
    coaches son, and in the end they learned all that I could teach and
    what others could teach. In addition we didn't have to carry the
    player/coach things home with us. 
    
    If you want to be a good coach you don't always get to watch your son
    or daughter play because you have to watch the whole team and coach the
    whole team. When I coached them I found a tremendous urgency to be
    tougher on them as players to compensate for any perceived favoritism
    and that wasn't necessarily fair.
    
    As to some of the other observations, I ran a youth football league
    with 1400 8-13 year olds for 7 years. Parents who tried to influence
    coaches (without giving any of their time), coaches who coached like
    their livelihood depended on it, parents who forced their kids to play,
    parents who thought we were babysitters and never picked their
    sons/daughters up till 11:30 or later, coaches who couldn't understand
    that they were coaching children instead of pros were the toughest
    thing to deal with.
    
    The best support you can be is to be in the stands and cheer his team
    on, give him a vote of confidence whether he has a good game or not,
    and try not to criticize his coach any more than you would any other.
    
    My sons are aged 28 and 30 now and our fondest memories were the times
    we spent together on the field and on the court....we didn't win them
    all but we had fun trying together.
    
    Best of Luck,
    
    JB
443.4in agreementASABET::EHNSTROMWed Apr 25 1990 18:5914
    
    agree with all of the above!
    
    	I chair/coach a local ball league also.  This year we have 215 boys
    and girls ages 4 - 12.  I have as yet to see may youngest boy play in a
    game because I'm running the older division where my oldest boy is.  As
    a coach its tough not to play favorites but I also get warm feelings
    when the other 11 children on my team come week after week after week
    and some other coaches can't get enough players to field a team.  Just
    seening those kids come is enough for me to know that I'm diong the
    right thing to my boys and the rest of the league.
    
    				Thom Terriffic