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Title:Movie Reviews and Discussion
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Created:Thu Jan 28 1993
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503.0. "Ralph Fiennes" by DSSDEV::RUST () Mon Mar 28 1994 14:01

    Ralph Fiennes (pronounced "rafe fines") has gotten a lot of attention
    recently for his (pardon the expression) mind-blowing portrayal of the
    Not Very Nice At All prison-camp commandant in "Schindler's List". I
    wanted to see more of him (or maybe that should be "less of him," as he
    put on quite a bit of weight for "List"!), but found that he's only
    recently begun doing film work after starting out as a Royal
    Shakespeare player, and doesn't have many movies to his credit - yet.
    
    From what I've read, his major roles to date include an appearance in a
    recent remake of "Wuthering Heights," titled (I think) "Heathcliff"
    (?); the film itself wasn't spoken of very highly in the article I
    read, but Fiennes' performance there is apparently what caught
    Spielberg's eye.
    
    Fiennes is also listed as the lead in "A Dangerous Man: Lawrence After
    Arabia," which does not appear to be available on video - I don't even
    know if it aired in the States at all. Can any of our U.K. correspondents 
    provide further information on either of these films?
    
    On a more hopeful note, another article stated that Fiennes has a role
    in an upcoming production of "Quiz Show," about the game-show scandals
    of the '50s; he's playing (ready for this?) the contestant who was
    given the answers in advance. [Sounds like a jolly change of pace from
    "Schindler," though perhaps a bit lacking in dramatic tension...]
    
    Anyway, the guy seems to be a damned fine actor (and those piercing
    grey eyes ain't bad, either); here's hoping for a long and interesting
    career for him.
    
    -b
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503.1A Dangerous Man shown on PBS39540::BROWNOn [real]time or else...Mon Mar 28 1994 16:4011
    
    "A Dangerous Man: Lawrence After Arabia" was shown a year or two
    ago on U.S. public television.  Ralph Fiennes gave an excellent
    performance -- he really captured T.E. Lawrence's particular
    mix of ambition, self-doubt, bravura, and compassion.  Most of
    the film centers of Lawrence's diplomatic efforts on the behalf
    of his Arab colleagues as the post-war maps change.
    
    Maybe public television could shed some light on video availability.
    
    Ron
503.2"The Baby of Macon"KOLFAX::WIEGLEBBudding LudditeFri Apr 01 1994 19:206
    Beth,  In your "Schindler's List" note, you mentioned he appears in
    "The Baby of Macon".  This is the most recent Peter Greenaway film, 
    which played some European film festivals about a year ago, but hasn't
    seemed to make it to this side of the Atlantic.
    
    - Dave
503.3DSSDEV::RUSTFri Apr 01 1994 19:597
    Re .2: Thanks, Dave - see also note 510 (though it doesn't mention
    Fiennes; dunno if that means his wasn't a very noticeable part, or
    just not a very good one!). Last I heard, "Baby" was being shown at
    *very* limited places in the States, as a "one-time-only" kind of
    thing, with no plans in place for it to be released here.
    
    -b
503.4DSSDEV::RUSTMon May 23 1994 13:4619
    "A Dangerous Man" aired on channel 44 [a Boston-area PBS station] last
    weekend, and I managed to spot it just in time to tape it. I had very
    little prior knowledge of T. E. Lawrence - I haven't even seen
    "Lawrence of Arabia," believe it or not - but this production intrigued
    me enough that I may try and remedy that.
    
    The story's perhaps a little heavy on "talking heads," and at times I
    had trouble keeping track of which hefty, moustachioed gentleman went
    with which delegation, but in general it worked quite well - a pleasant
    surprise, as I don't typically enjoy diplomatic-intrigue stories
    (perhaps because of that aforementioned difficulty in telling the
    players apart). It seemed to balance cynicism and idealism pretty well,
    too; nobody's motives were quite as obvious as they seemed.
    
    And Fiennes' performance was... mesmerizing. (The actor who played
    Faisal was quite compelling, too; there were some scenes of duelling
    charismas that were dazzling to watch!)
    
    -b
503.5SMAUG::LEHMKUHLH, V ii 216Tue May 24 1994 19:154
I watched "Dangerous Man" last night.  I'd taped it
while I was away in London where I saw Ralph's brother
Joseph on stage in "A Month in the Country".  Sibling
resemblance is HUGE!
503.6Maybe also in...QUARRY::reevesJon Reeves, UNIX compiler groupSat Jul 02 1994 01:3010
...a 1992 movie called "Waterland".  I don't remember it, but the Globe gave
it ***/****, and the cast list reads well (Pete Postlewaithe, Sinead Cusack,
Jeremy Irons, Ethan Hawke, John Heard).  

However, I'm not sure about this particular listing, since he's the only 
person listed with no character name, and the cast list is supposedly complete.
This could be an oversight, he may be uncredited, he may have been cut 
from the movie, or someone may have submitted his name in error.

In any case, it looks like it might be worth checking out.
503.73759::AHERNDennis the MenaceTue Jul 05 1994 15:1914
>...a 1992 movie called "Waterland".  I don't remember it, but the Globe gave
>it ***/****, and the cast list reads well (Pete Postlewaithe, Sinead Cusack,
>Jeremy Irons, Ethan Hawke, John Heard).  

>However, I'm not sure about this particular listing, since he's the only 
>person listed with no character name, and the cast list is supposedly complete.
>This could be an oversight, he may be uncredited, he may have been cut 
>from the movie, or someone may have submitted his name in error.
    
    I think he played the, ahem, unusually well-endowed brother with the
    diminished mental capacity in the flashback scenes.
    
    A good film, BTW, available on video.
    
503.8DSSDEV::RUSTTue Aug 09 1994 17:538
    The hype for "Quiz Show" seems to have begun; Ralph's on the covers of
    GQ and Premiere...
    
    I'm still having trouble imagining a quiz-show contestant - *any*
    quiz-show contestant - with the kind of edgy undercurrents that Fiennes
    is bound to provide. Ought to be... interesting.
    
    -b
503.92, 2, 2 F's in oneVMSDEV::HALLYBFish have no concept of fireThu Sep 22 1994 18:017
    In the reviews for "Quiz Show" I keep hearing his name pronounced as if
    it were "Ray Fines" run-on: "Ray-fines". Surely the announcers don't
    mean to slur the man's name but that's how it ends up.
    
    Also check out Beth's prediction in .-1 versus the review in 658.0
    
      John
503.10He likes it like that16913::MILLS_MATo Thine own self be TrueThu Sep 22 1994 21:086
    I believe the Ray Fines is how Ralph Fiennes pronounces his name. I've
    heard it that way, and it was spelled phonetically like that in the
    People magazine article on him.
    
    
    Marilyn
503.11More...16913::MILLS_MATo Thine own self be TrueThu Sep 22 1994 21:084
    Actually, now that I think about it, it's more like Rafe Fines.
    
    
    Marilyn
503.12REGENT::POWERSFri Sep 23 1994 13:3214
>    In the reviews for "Quiz Show" I keep hearing his name pronounced as if
>    it were "Ray Fines" run-on: "Ray-fines". Surely the announcers don't
>    mean to slur the man's name but that's how it ends up.

"Rafe" is apparently a common British pronunciation of "Ralph,"
going back into the last century and probably before.

As for the slurring, words that are joined by the same fricative
consonant (consonant sounds without a stop) often run together
in normal speech.  If there is someone named "Thomas Simon" around
(a made up name for my purposes here), ask if he hears "Thomasimon"
with any regularity.

- tom]  (who still has trouble sounding S-E-A-N as "shawn")
503.13HUMOR::EPPESI'm not making this up, you knowFri Sep 23 1994 22:1810
>"Rafe" is apparently a common British pronunciation of "Ralph,"
>going back into the last century and probably before.

Other examples of the "Rafe" pronunciation:

Ralph Rackstraw - lead male character in Gilbert & Sullivan's "HMS Pinafore"

Ralph Vaughn Williams - British composer

-- Nina
503.14Fiennes in "Wuthering Heights" to air on cable station TNT in DecemberHUMOR::EPPESI'm not making this up, you knowWed Nov 02 1994 21:3717
From:	US2RMC::"ecr@mv.MV.COM" "Elizabeth Rust" 24-OCT-1994 18:37:21.50
To:	humor::eppes
CC:	
Subj:	Fiennes news

Dunno if this has already shown up or not, but
I noticed a news squib the other day stating that
TNT was going to air the Ralph Fiennes version
of "Wuthering Heights" this December (the 5th, I
think, but schedules could change). Critics generally
didn't care for the movie (to put it mildly), but
even while panning it they tended to admire (and
occasionally seem scared by) Fiennes' Heathcliff,
so I'm looking forward to it. Thought you might
want to notify the MOVIES Fiennes-fans, too...

-b
503.15Interview in Harper'sEVMS::HALLYBFish have no concept of fireFri Apr 21 1995 13:0119
    There's a feature article on Ralph Fiennes in this month's (May95)
    "Harper's Bazaar" Magazine. (Which I usually just buy for the pictures :-)
    
    Ralph will be playing the title role in _Hamlet_ on Broadway starting
    in May. Having played it in London thr reviews are already in. Bazaar
    says that as "[a] troubled son, stuck in a rotten country and a rotten
    family, Fiennes' Hamlet resembles his Charles Van Doren in Quiz Show -- 
    a privileged boy under pressure, a young noble who must put on a mask."
    
    Other random tidbits:
    
    He's working on a new movie _Strange Days_, a thriller set in 1999.
    Co-starring Angela Bassett.
    
    Actors he reveres: Marlon Brando, Robert DeNiro.
    
    Sorry, ladies -- Fiennes has, as of yet, no nude scenes on film.
    
      John
503.16PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Apr 21 1995 13:217
    
>>    Sorry, ladies -- Fiennes has, as of yet, no nude scenes on film.

	What's to be sorry about?  That's to his credit, in my opinion.

	Diane

503.17yummmmmmmmm...SMAUG::LEHMKUHLH, V ii 216Fri Apr 21 1995 13:217
Yes, but he gets his shirt off in "Hamlet".  Aside from
being incredibly tasty throughout (leather pants,
long black military overcoat), it's an excellent
performance in very good production.  But that is theatre
and this is the MOVIES.

Chris
503.18Nice face though...SHRCTR::SCHILTONWhen they said sit down,I stood upFri Apr 21 1995 13:404
    His body (bare chest and arms) didn't impress me in 
    Schindler's List.
    
    Sue
503.19SMAUG::LEHMKUHLH, V ii 216Fri Apr 21 1995 13:514
Well, he put on 30 or 40 pounds for that role.  He's
lean and not very mean now.

dcl
503.20RANGER::LINDT::bencePhotoperiodicFri May 05 1995 21:094
    A few weeks back the New Yorker had a short piece on Fiennes as
    Hamlet.  It was accompanied by a Richard Avedon photo of him
    dressed as Hamlet.  Definitely worth a look ;-)