Conference bookie::movies

    "Boxing Helena"

  From what I've heard, the part will be played instead by Sherilyn Fenn who
played Audrey Horne in the Twin Peaks TV series. She didn't appear in the TP
movie.

  That's an old rumor so it might be wrong.

  George

The producers of _Boxing Helena_ were awarded just under 9 million last week
from Kim Basinger for damages. She had verbally agree to appear in the film
and backed out. The jury decided not to add a punative award. 



Randy

  I was really surprised by that verdict. If the movie had already been
released and had flopped, they could argue that Basinger was responsible for
backing out, but it hasn't even been released yet. How do they know it won't be
a ripping success or that it will fail but would have failed anyway?

  I can't imagine a big change in box office from having Basinger in the box
instead of Sherilyn Fenn. 

  It appears that the judge was asleep at the switch.

  George

    I think I read in an article, awhile ago, that Kim Basinger had decided
    that the movie was just too morbid and it would have upset her too much
    to do it.  Does anyone know if that's the case?  If so, I can
    sympathize with her feelings.  I wouldn't want to do it either.  
    
    I think the verdict is ridiculous. 
    
    Lorna
    

    Well, if she signed to do it in the first place, I don't know that I'd
    be too sympathetic towards her for changing her mind, especially if I
    were an investor in the film. On the other hand, I suppose it's
    possible that the movie she signed for was sufficiently different from
    what they were actually making that she may have had cause to change
    her mind - but from the sound of it, whatever the usual channels are
    for sorting out this kind of thing didn't get used here. As to whether
    the money's outrageous or not, well, nearly any dollar amount
    associated with movie-making sounds pretty outrageous...
    
    Btw, in case anybody's wondering about spoilers - this particular movie
    seems bent on selling itself _because_ of the plot device, which has
    appeared in every written description I've seen of it to date, so I
    consider it a combination of advertising and fair warning!
    
    [Personally, it sounds too much like all the other obsessed-person-
    captures-and-does-unspeakable-things-to-woman movies. I'd have
    preferred it if either both of the main characters were women, or both
    were men - and/or if there was no aspect of sexual
    desire/possessiveness involved. Maybe the quite little guy in the
    neighborhood gets fed up with a loud neighbor (who may be jovial or
    obnoxious, depending on your personal noise threshold), and "boxes" him
    to make him appreciate the quieter things in life... "John Goodman's
    Most Challenging Role!" But nobody ever asks _me_ these things.]
    
    -b

                       <<< Note 110.6 by DSSDEV::RUST >>>

>    Well, if she signed to do it in the first place, I don't know that I'd
>    be too sympathetic towards her for changing her mind, especially if I
>    were an investor in the film. On the other hand, I suppose it's
>    possible that the movie she signed for was sufficiently different from
>    what they were actually making that she may have had cause to change
>    her mind - but from the sound of it, whatever the usual channels are
>    for sorting out this kind of thing didn't get used here. As to whether
>    the money's outrageous or not, well, nearly any dollar amount
>    associated with movie-making sounds pretty outrageous...

According to the way I heard the story: She had not signed anything but had
only verbally agreed to make the movie. She tried to back out because she
didn't like the nudity. That claim didn't go too far, when they looked at
some of her earlier films.

 There's a big difference between being awarded 9 mill and collecting it :-)

regards
Barry

I believe 'Boxing Helena' has already been filmed and shown, hasn't it? I
thought it was entered into some film festival in Aspen, but it lost out to
that Mexican film made for $7,000 ('El Mar-something..')....

If I remember the article in the Boston Globe correctly, the reason that the 
producers sued Basinger is because she had said "yes", and based on that 
answer, they lined up investors and got contracts for distribution in Europe 
and the States. After Basinger dropped out, the U.S. distribution fell through 
totally, and the European distribution money was dramatically cut back.

The film has been released in Europe, but still has no U.S. distribution.

alan

  The reason it seems strange to me is that money awards are usually based on
what the plaintiff would lose. It's not clear at all that they would really make
$9 million more with her in the box. 

  I'm sure that a lot of people who might be attracted to seeing her in a movie
would feel squeamish about the idea. By contrast, seeing one of the regular
David Lynch actresses in a box would appeal to the Lynch following. 

  As for the note about this being a man bashing woman movie, of course it is.
Like her Dad, Jennifer Lynch who wrote both this movie and who also wrote
"Laury Palmer's diary" is anything but Politically Correct. 

  I think you can expect a very typical Lynch type effort with plenty of tongue
in cheek black humor, campy Lynchisms, and enough strange violence to make you
wonder if you should laugh or squirm. 

  Just my guess,
  George 

Originally, Madonna was set to play the starring role.  She backed out
(early), and the producers feel no ill will toward her.

Kim Basinger then agreed to star.  Negotiations had proceeded to the
point of verbal agreement and deal memo, which is normally considered
adequate in Hollywood, and in fact had been adequate for several of
Basinger's latest movies.  Based on that, the producers started up
production (and hence, incurring costs).  Kim Basinger then backed out.
 Note that she already had a reputation for being unprofessional...  As
a result of her backing out, their male lead (name escapes me) also
backed out, according to his contract.  He is owed $600,000, which the
producers say they will pay him as soon as they get money from Basinger.

At this point, there was much scrambling.  I don't remember the
details, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that credit and
distribution agreements fell apart at this point.  Eventually, they
managed to get Sherilyn Fenn in to play the lead, reworked the script
(more cost incurred) to fit her, recast the male lead, and restarted
production.  The completed film was shown at the Sundance festival; it
still does not have domestic distribution lined up, though it seems
likely that it will.

The $8.9 million figure does not seem out of line, considering that
Basinger and the departed co-star were bigger names than the current
cast, and considering the additional expenses racked up.  As a point of
comparison, one change of casting in "The Bonfire of the Vanities" cost
well over $2 million, even though it happened before the start of
production, largely because of schedule adjustments that were necessary.

    A few more details that I remember which might make the decision 
    more palatable:
    
    1) For seven of her nine previous movies, Basinger had no contract,
    but the same kind of verbal agreement she had for this movie.
    
    2) The people making the movie, after her agreement, spent $7.5 million
    of their own money and money they borrowed to set up shooting dates,
    get distribution rights for the US and overseas, cast the rest of the
    movie, and were two weeks away from starting when Basinger changed her
    mind.
    
    3) The shooting schedule was lost, the lead actor backed out (as was
    agreed to in his contract), the European distribution deal fell
    through, and the movie ended up costing the people who began the
    project their livelihood.
    
    NAZZ

It's an issue of funding as well.
 
With Basinger as his lead, he was able to raise close to 8 million.
I think most backed out when Kim backed out.
With Fenn, it was something like 3 million. 

There's also the issue of distribution.  Basinger seems to be a bigger 
"name" than "Fenn" and it's easier to get better distribution channels 
with the "big name".  I think he is having a hard time distributing the
movie.  Although it "could" be the subject matter.

This movie is out BTW.  Has anyone seen it?

    re .12, No, I haven't seen it.  I might have seen it if Kim Basinger
    had been in it, because I like her, but now I won't bother.  :-)
    
    Lorna
    

    
    	Sherilyn Fenn is no slouch, either ... I liked her in "The Wraith",
    	and last week I found out she was Terry's friend in "Just One of
    	the Guys".
    
    							GTI

    Basinger thought she'd have a hand in it, but when she backed out, the
    jury decided she didn't have a leg to stand on.
    

    
    Need the title of a Streisand movie.  In it, she owns a contract
    on a boxer (I blv Ryan O'Neal), and she forces him back unto the
    ring ... ?
    
    Ray

    The Main Event and the "not-so-great white hope".
    
    

A totally different little question now:

Several years ago, I saw (part of) a film on TV, about an ex-USAF pilot (or
similar) who had suffered some trauma, and had amnesia (I think).  He was
trying to retrace his life, and all paths seemed to lead him to a town which
was called, I think, "Charles, Vermont" (Vermont as in the State, I guess).

However, everyone he mentioned "Charles" to got very uneasy and refused to
talk about it, and seemed surprised that the ex-pilot was trying to get there,
and surprised that he didn't know some sinister-but-never-revealed fact about
the place (if indeed, the place actually existed).  I got the impression that
the pilot was responsible for something nasty that happened there, but he
had no recollection of it.

Unfortunately, I missed the end of the film, so don't know if he ever made it
to the town, what happened when he got there, and what the sinister goings-on
were.  Does anyone recognise the film, and know what it was called?  I don't
know when it was made, probably 70s, and I think the ex-pilot was played by
Martin Landau, but that's a wild guess.

Ever since I saw it, I've been dying to know how it ended!

Scott

If so, maybe someone else can answer the actual question.
Here's the data on it:

Title:
                                  town called hell, a (1971)

Aka Titles:
  Town Called Bastard, A

Director:
  Robert Parrish

Writer:
  Richard Aubrey

Cast:
  Michael Craig....................Paco
  Martin Landau....................The Colonel
  Al Lettieri......................La Bomaba
  Fernando Rey.....................Old Blind Farmer
  Aldo Sambrell....................Celebra
  Telly Savalas....................Dan Carlos
  Robert Shaw......................Town Priest
  Stella Stevens...................Avila
  Dudley Sutton....................Spectre

    I doubt "A Town Called Hell" is the film you are looking for.
    It is described by Maltin as "A manhunt for Mexican revolutionary
    [Robert] Shaw.  The pits.  Originally titled: A TOWN CALLED BASTARD."
    
    I recall the film you are talking about.  I think it was made for TV,
    the title contained the name of the town, and I'm almost certain that
    the name was not "Charles".  More if I get any inspirations.
    
    - Dave

    The film in question *was* a "made-for-TV" flick called (if memory
    serves) "Welcome Home, (not sure on the name here) Johnny Bristol".
    It *did* star Martin Landau in the title role and he *was* looking
    for a "Charles Vermont".  As for the ending...(after the spoiler
    alert, of course)...

    [SPOILER!]

    

    The nurse who was taking care of the protagonist (? Johnny) finally
    conceded to go to Charles, Vermont with Johnny.  Turns out there never
    was a Charles, Vermont.  Johnny was raised in an orphanage which was
    located at the corner of Charles and Vermont streets.

    Because life in the orphanage was "hell", Johnny had developed a
    fantasy world of the "perfect" town in which he was (at least in his
    own mind) raised named "Charles, Vermont".  Apparently, the folks in
    the hospital knew this already or had discovered this somewhere along
    the way, but tried to shield Johnny from discovering the truth because
    of some painful memories associated with his childhood (i.e. something
    like: his parents died in a horrible way which resulted in his being
    placed into the orphanage in the first place?).  The writing was
    purposefully slanted to make the viewer (and Johnny) *think* there was
    something sinister going on that the hospital staff was covering up.

    After this realization sets in, Johnny goes through some kind of major
    catharsis and even *I* can't remember the ultimate ending (I seem to
    remember him having a crying fit and/or nervous breakdown, but nothing
    serious enough to push him into oblivion).  Regardless, the pay-off was
    that everything and everyone Johnny recalled during his soliloquies in
    the hospital during his stay was a combination of real people from the
    orphanage, and his fantasized/distorted embellishments of how he
    *wished* things really were.


    That's what I seem to recall, anyway... (hey...it's been 20 years since
    I saw it last so I feel good to remember *this* much, OK?).

    FWIW,
    David.

re .23

Ahh, the power of notes.  Many thanks.
Scott

    
    
    
    I saw a movie the other day on the local NH station ch# 50 and
    i'm trying to find the name of it.
    I only caught the second half of it so i'll go from there.
    This movie takes place in Scotland. This guy comes from an island
    off the west coast of Scotland and leaves to find a wife on the
    mainland because on the island everybody is too closely related.
    He gets into some trouble on the mainland when he mistaken for
    a criminal(this is the part i'm fuzzy on). He gets into a lot close
    calls with the police and finally makes it back home where he ends
    up proposing to a cousin(who's not really his cousin). This was
    an excellant comedy.
    
    
                -=-=-R~C~W-=-=-
    

    
    -.1
    
    The movie is the "The Bridal Path", 1959, starring Bill Travers. 
    Definitely one of the the better movies on the Scottish highlands.
    
    
    

    I need the name *and ending* of a movie that I saw on PBS about three
    years ago. The friend I was with insisted on tuning in to "Mystery", so
    I missed the last hour of it.
    
    Set in contemporary Ireland, it opened with an Irish man with a clean
    record shooting the British Minister of the Interior at his home in
    front of his wife and two kids. The assasin goes underground in
    Ireland; the IRA covers for him; he is almost nabbed when the British
    police raid a club where he is, but he has an alibi and gets away with
    it. They sent an agent undercover to look for him; meanwhile, the IRA
    wanted him to do another rubout. That is where we had to switch
    channels; very frustrating!
    
    Does anyone know the movie, and could you give me the ending behind a
    spoiler warning? It was very good quality for a made-for-TV flick.
    
    Thanks,
    	Jim B.
    

    RE: .25
    
    The Bridal Path GB 1959 95min Technicolor
    
    British Lion/Sidney Gilliat, Frank Launder
    
    A stalwart Hebridean islander journeys to the mainland in search of a
    wife.
    
    Mild, episodic, very pleasant open-air comedy set amid splendid
    locations.
    
    w Frank Launder, Geoffrey Willians, novel Nigel Tranter, d Frank
    Launder, ph Arthur Ibbetson, m Cedric Thorpe Davie.
    
    Bill Travers, Fiona Clyne, George Cole, Duncan Macrae, Gordon Jackson,
    Dilys Laye, Bernadette O'Farrell.
    
    Bucko....
    

    RE: .27
    
    The movie is "Harry's Game", based on a novel by Gerald Seymour.
    
    The plot line is actually about the undercover agent (the Harry in the
    title), and his attempts to find the assasin.
    
    Excellent movie (even better book).
    
    cheers
    ..klaas..
    
    Spoiler stuff
    
    Harry gets in relatively close to finding the bad guy, but seems to
    just miss him.  Meanwhile, through a series of coincidences, and with the
    IRA being suspicious, his cover is nearly blown.
    
    Through his controls inactions, Harry is unaware of the IRA trying to
    track him down, and, while walking to his workplace, he comes across
    the badguy being transferred to a safe house.  He gives chase, and
    manages to shoot and kill the bad guy in front of the bad guys wife. 
    Unfortunately for Harry, a nearby British patrol spots the fracas, and
    seeing that Harry is armed, and given the "standard rule" about armed
    civilians, they shoot and kill him.
    
    I think the movie ends here.  The book gives a few more pages to wrap
    up some loose ends.
    
    

    Thanks for the scoop on Harry's Game; I can sleep peacefully now.
    Sounds like a good read, too.

    If we can remember back to the Boxing Basinger thread of this note...
    
> The $8.9 million figure does not seem out of line, considering that
> Basinger and the departed co-star were bigger names than the current
> cast, and considering the additional expenses racked up.  As a point of
> comparison, one change of casting in "The Bonfire of the Vanities" cost
> well over $2 million, even though it happened before the start of
> production, largely because of schedule adjustments that were necessary.

    What was the casting change made in Bonfire?? I might feel just a
    touch more sympathetic to the movie if there were a casting change,
    since that seemed to me to be the most ineptly cast movie in quite a
    few years! Not much more sympathetic, though, since the real problem
    was the absolute butchery of the book when it was converted to a script
    which elevated Willis' minor character into a leading role.
    

    Re Bonfire of the Vanities --
    
    In the book the judge was Jewish, based on a real Jewish judge, who
    even auditioned for the part. The original choice for the part was Alan
    Arkin. At some point they decided the judge should be black, so Morgan
    Freeman (I think?) was given the part instead. He demanded a much
    higher salary than they had planned to pay Arkin, was busy with other
    commitments forcing them to change their schedule, and apparently
    showed up for some scenes unprepared, wasting more time.
    
    The story of the disaster of this movie is told in "The Devil's Candy",
    a very entertaining read, by Julie Salomon.
    
    Neil

    I taped "Local Hero" the other night and adored it, but had
    inadvertantly taped over the last 'X' minutes/seconds. I would love it
    if somebody could mail me the ending!
    
    Where I left off after a spoiler.
    
    Cheers,
    George
    
    
    Macintyre has returned to Houston- looks out his window at the Houstom
    night and the scene shifts back to Scotland. Does it end right there?
    Everything seems fairly resolved in the various plotlines, but perhaps
    there's some pithy last line or something before it fades to black.

    Nope - noyhing else.  Mac is left to gaze at the Houston skyline, and
    the phone rings unanswered in the box back in Scotland.
    
    NAZZ

    Can someone help me out with the title of a movie?
    
    Wynona Ryder, Jeff Daniels
    
    Reclusive girl, believes her mother is a celebrity, who just happens to
    be visiting town.    
    
    Thanks
    Shawn

Welcome Home Roxy Carmichael?

alan

    re .36, yes, that was it, and it was a dumb movie, too.  Corny and
    boring, and unrealistic.
    
    Lorna
    

>     re .36, yes, that was it, and it was a dumb movie, too.  Corny and
>     boring, and unrealistic.

	I liked that movie!  Mainly due to Wyona (sp?) Ryder's performance.

    re .36-.38
    
    That's it!  Thanks alan.
    
    I'd have to agree with Jeff, based mainly on Wynona's performance.
    
    Shawn

    So you think you're a movie fanatic?

    The following is a line from a movie, which refers to another movie.
    Identify both films, the relevant characters, and the actors.

	"Are we having a Boo Radley moment?"

    I've used this as my mail personal name for some time, just to see if
    anyone noticed.  My cost center manager did!  She knew half the answer-
    one movie.
    
    Have fun.

    -Steve    

    I'll go for half points.
    
    Boo Radley(Robert Duvall) is the reclusive neighbor in To Kill A
    Mockingbird.
    
    Shawn

    I'll take the other half-point...
    
    (spoiler alert):
    
    
    Mary Stuart Masterston, as Joon, in Benny and Joon, to Sam, played by
    Johnny Depp. Joon was fixing her Cap'n Crunch blender drink.
    
    Catherine
    

    Yes, well done!  Shawn got the first movie, To Kill a Mockingbird, and
    Catherine got the more recent Benny and Joon.
    
    The other day, I was reading a discussion of Robert Duvall in this
    conference, and no one mentioned Mockingbird.  I almost wrote a note
    at that time, since Duvall looks so young (bizarre, too - Boo Radley is
    not like the rest of us) that this could be one of his earlier film
    roles.  Instead, I thought it would be more fun to pose the question.
    
    Actually, figuring out the Benny and Joon reference is trickier,
    because the line "Are we having a Boo Radley moment?" is spoken in a
    quick, offhand manner.  Unless you knew who Boo was, you would never
    remember the line beyond a brief moment of puzzlement.  So Catherine
    gets an extra point for attention to detail. (Perhaps even obsession? 
    How many obscure movie scripts does she know well?)
    
    Then again, Shawn deserves extra credit for answering the question only
    22 minutes after is was asked.
    
    -Steve

    Re: -1
    
    Maybe it's because I've seen Benny and Joon more times than I can
    remember, and my daughter Maresa (age 7) and I listen to the tape
    almost every time we're in the car. Maresa has a near-photographic
    memory and can recite the lines in B&J before they're spoken. (She's
    seen it a bunch of times, too!)
    
    Catherine
    

    I laughed when I saw your trivia question, but for the life of me I
    could not remember where I had heard it.  I caught the reference 
    and had a good laugh during the movie.  
    
    I want the green glass canister set Joon had in her kitchen.  They
    match my Grandma's salt/pepper shakers... anyone seen any like this?
    
    :-)

    Can anyone tell me how many Highlander movies have been made, and what
    the titles are?
    
    Thanks
    Shawn

    There have been 2 theater releases, Highlander and Highlander II. 
    Both are out on video.
    
    There is another "movie" that only came out in video (done from 2
    episodes of the series HIGHLANDER, the first episode and the episode
    with Vanity (from Action Jackson and The Last Dragon).
    This movie is a mixing of the 2 episodes.
    
    1.	Highlander
    2.	Highlander II 
    3.  Highlander : The Quickening.
    
    
    
    Michael

    re .-1
    
    Michael
    
    Thanks for the response.  I think the compilation of episodes was
    called The Gathering.
    
    >>>There is another "movie" that only came out in video (done from 2
    >>>episodes of the series HIGHLANDER, the first episode and the episode
    >>>with Vanity (from Action Jackson and The Last Dragon).
    >>>This movie is a mixing of the 2 episodes.
    
    Which network aired the series?
    
    Shawn
                        

    I am unsure elsewhere where it is aired, it shows here in
    Seattle/Everett area on Sundays on channel 11 (I think it's KSTW
    locally here) I'll try to find out more...
    
    Michael

>         <<< Note 110.48 by 58379::BAYNE "We won't get fooled again" >>>
>    >>>episodes of the series HIGHLANDER, the first episode and the episode

>    Which network aired the series?

No network, it's syndicated, that is, sold to individual stations 
to be shown on their schedules.

    
    
    I'd have to say that any 1 episode of Highlander the series is better
    than Highlander II the movie. Highlander II should be offered at
    colleges as how not to make a movie.
    
              -=-=-R~C~W-=-=-

    'Wings' was recently shown on UK network TV. It was a restored
    version of the original 1927 silent movie with a new score.
    
    It was about WWI fighter pilots with some excellent flying sequences.
    After watching this I was wondering what other movies have been made
    with this theme.
    
    I have seen 'Aces High' starring Malcolm McDowall made in 1976 (I
    think) and I have also heard of a film called 'Dawn Patrol'.
    
    Can anyone say if there are any others that I've missed and also 
    any info on Dawn Patrol (ie who starred in it and when it was made, I
    think it was made in the '30's).
    
    Thanks
    
    Royston

>>    any info on Dawn Patrol (ie who starred in it and when it was made, I
>>    think it was made in the '30's).
  

I think it was Errol Flynn that starred in Dawn Patrol. And it was made in
the '30's, I believe. Sorry, don't have my books handy.

I dimly remember a WWI flying movie with James Cagney, as well, but can't
recall any details.

Dawn Patrol is a good movie.

John D.

    RE: .53  by 30985::DAMIANO 
    
>>>    any info on Dawn Patrol (ie who starred in it and when it was made, I
>>>    think it was made in the '30's).
  
>I think it was Errol Flynn that starred in Dawn Patrol. And it was made in
>the '30's, I believe. Sorry, don't have my books handy.

    The 1930 original starred Douglas Fairbanks Jr.  The Errol  Flynn
    remake of the same title was 1938.
    

    If the theme is WWI flying movies, "The Blue Max" with George Peppard
    and Ursella Andress would qualify.  A good, albeit very long movie.
    
    Andria

    While introducing "A Taste of Honey" recently on our local PBS Film
    Classics program, Frank Averuch said that Rita Tushnigham's brief
    career included a role in "Doctor Zhivago", but I cannot recall who she
    played.  Does anyone remember?  It wasn't the girl with the balalaika
    that catches Alec Guinness' eye in the prologue, was it?
    

    > It wasn't the girl with the balalaika
    > that catches Alec Guinness' eye in the prologue, was it?
    
    Yes, it was.  (And didn't they return to her in an epilogue?  I was
    never as *wild* about Dr.Z [or "Lara's Theme"] as everyone else was, so
    don't remember all scenes reverently.)
    
    Leslie

    I saw the Dennis Hopper film 'Colors' which recently aired on 
    UK network TV . It was a fascinating film (though I found it difficult
    to follow at times).
    
    I am pretty used to most American expressions but one thing that bugged
    me in this film was that all the characters seemed to call each other
    'Homes' or 'Holmes' right the way through the film.
    
    Is this a local LA expression or something. 
    Could someone enlighten me ?
    
    Thanks
    
    Royston        

RE:    <<< Note 110.58 by COMICS::SHELLEY "Always with the -ve waves" >>>
    
>>    I am pretty used to most American expressions but one thing that bugged
>>    me in this film was that all the characters seemed to call each other
>>    'Homes' or 'Holmes' right the way through the film.
    
>>    Is this a local LA expression or something. 
>>    Could someone enlighten me ?
  
       "Homes", being the short form of the now-defunct colloquialism 
"Home Boy", was usually a term used between friends, but occasionally
was used in a sarcastic manner with non-friends.

       Because of wide-spread usage by persons outside the community
which originated the term, it has been replaced by several new terms.
Reference your latest weekly copy of Bruno's Volatile Language Guide.

                                   Greg

    As a small addition to -1, it is also commonly thought to be mostly
    used by gang members, much like in _Colors_.
    
    
    Marilyn

RE:    <<< Note 110.60 by SWAM1::MILLS_MA "To Thine own self be True" >>>

>>    As a small addition to -1, it is also commonly thought to be mostly
>>    used by gang members, much like in _Colors_.
  
     I can give you first-hand information that this is FAR from the truth.

                                     Greg

    Thanks for the replies, but hey! I don't want to start a war here.
    
    Royston

    RE -2
    
    I didn't say it *was* only used by gang members, but commonly thought.
    I realize it is used a lot by young people today, much like the clothes 
    trend started by gangs, and adopted by most American kids.
    
    I am also not interested in getting into an argument about this.
    
    I'm outta here,
    
    
    Marilyn

    Is there any famliy connection between Val Kilmer (Tombstone) and
    Joanne Whalley-Kilmer ?
    
    Just wondering,
    
    Royston

    I'd say they are married.
    

    
    	And if you said that you'd be right.  8^)
    
    							GTI
    

    
    Well, actually, I thought they were divorced, but who can tell without
    a scorecard...
    
    DFW

    As far as I know, they're still married.  (She would have gone back to
    Joanne Whalley, which is how she started out.)

    
    	What's the stuff you always see sprayed across a room when some-
    	one is checking for the "light beams" of an alarm system?
    
    	It has to be more than compressed air, right?  Unless the object
    	is to stir up alot of dust and propel it into the beam.  And I
    	guess paint would be a dumb idea, since it would make a mess.
    
    	BUT, would compressed air create enough of a presence that it
    	could set off the alarm?
    

> What's the stuff you always see sprayed across a room when some-
> one is checking for the "light beams" of an alarm system?

	Could be anything that would refract and/or reflect at least one
	of the visible colors in the "light beam".

	A "powerdery fresh" air-freshener I'm guessing would probably work (?)

    I seem to remember hairspray being a favourite in a few movies.

    Does anyone know how John Wayne died?
    
    	My girlfriend called me up out of the blue and asked me this
    question.  I thought this would keep ya's busy and get her out of my
    hair!
    
    Thanks in advance!
    
    By the way she heard his name mentioned in a video by Garth Brooks and
    was just wondering?   *(I know what you're all thinking and I have no 
    idea either! [and I don't mean about Johns death!])  

    I believe he died of cancer. Don't remember what kind, though.
    
    
    Marilyn

    I thought it was lung cancer...
    
    Sue

    Stomach cancer.  
    
    
    
    kim

    Well I think it's been summed down to cancer, which kind is another
    mystery?   
    	Any one else that knows exactly...go ahead and post it...I'll read
    it on Thursday!
    
    Thanks to those who helped out already!

    
    In Wayne's case, he was one of many people who died of cancer and also
    filmed a movie in the Nevada desert right around the time of a nuclear
    test which it's been rumored blew their way due to an unexpected shift
    in the winds. 
    
    I don't remember any more...

    
    I thought the Duke died from lung cancer. He had a lung removed before
    he did Rooster Cockburn because of cancer and it spread later to the
    other one and died shortly there after. (I think)
    
    Dave
    

    I believe it was lung cancer.  He did a PSA (public service
    announcement) for tv about smoking.  It was not to air until after his
    death.  He even said that in it -- "by the time you see this, I will be
    dead".
    
    
    E Grace

    
    Yul Brynner did one of those, with a similar content.
    
    "Hi, I'm Yul Brynner and I'm dead now....."
    
    
    
    I.

Definitely stomach cancer... Didn't know about the lung cancer, but it can
spread y'know.

Reminds me of a piece of graffiittii (never can spell that word!). There was a
newspaper stand with the banner "John Wayne Dead" to which someone had added
"The Hell I am !"

Simon.

    No...I do believe it was cancer of the lung(s). I remember that his
    death paralleled the ailment of his character in his last movie, "The
    Shootist." 

    A biography, "John Wayne, American" said it was stomach cancer.
    
    
    kim

http://us.imdb.com/M/person-biography?wayne,+john

... In 1963 he had a cancerous lung removed; in 1978 there was open-heart 
surgery; in 1979 his stomach was removed. ...

[Presumably, this was only part of his stomach -- but he died in June 1979.]

So you're both right, sort of.

    
    Can someone please help me.....
    
    I'm looking for the title of a Rutger Hauer movie that is set in
    futuristic England whereby all he does is drink coffee and eat
    chocolate. I remember too that he chases around some creature that has
    been killing people. 
    Also, it is always raining with a foot of water on the ground at all
    times.
    I think the movie came out around '91 or '92.
    
    Your help would be appreciated.
    
    Dave
    

    
    
    I remember the flick...just can't recall the title at the moment!
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    SPLIT SECOND
    
    
    Chris D.
    
    

From the Internet Movie Database at http://us.imdb.com/


				Split Second (1992)

2008. The future has never looked more dangerous. He's seen the future...Now he
has to kill it. He'll need bigger guns.

    
    THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
    
    Now I can sleep at night (actually in the daytime) better.
    
    Dave