Conference bookie::movies

    A few years ago I did an interview with Dana Hersey, local film
    commentator. He said that if Casablanca were made today, they'd have to
    sleep with each other, etc.- in other words, it couldn't be made today,
    and I agree. I doubt if I would see either Gone with the Wind II or
    Casablanca II just on principle.
    
    If they do insist on making a Casablanca II, Isabella Rosselini would
    be the only choice for Ilse.
    
    My 2 cents,
    
    Linda

I read a Casasblanca sequel idea in a review of another movie.  Ilse
dumps Laslo and sits out the rest of the war with Rick in Casablanca.
Aftwards they both move to New Rochelle and live off Rick's gambling
winnings.

In a plot twist that I take credit for, the two get bored, hop on a train
for New York and stumble into a Nick and Nora mystery.

Brian

    >The news story referred to the later fortunes of the star-crossed
    >lovers. I thought they joined the Free French, or possibly just settled
    >down in Marrakesh.
    
    Yes, if you remember the end of "Casablanca", Rick and Louis headed off
    to join the Free French garrison at Brazaville.  It would be plausible
    for them to settle in Marrakesh after the war.
    

    Ralph Fiennes (pronounced "rafe fines") as Strasser's brother.
    I can't imagine Kevin Costner as Rick. Bletch! Maybe Ted Danson?
    
    Maybe have Rick and Renault run into Charlie Allnut, played by
    Jack Palance?
    
      John

    re .4, I think Ted Danson would be even less appealing than Kevin
    Costner.  How about Alec Baldwin?   (he's attractive and he can act)
    
    Lorna
    

    How about Sam Kinison?
    
    Ray

    Re .6: <snort!>
    
    Hey, if Kinison plays Rick, Elvis could play Laszlo!
    
    [Actually, I thought somebody already did "Casablanca II", only they
    called it something else. Like "Ishtar"?]
    
    Dag-nabbit, I seem to be getting all giddy. Maybe it was the bit in the
    base note about the expected success of GWTW2 (pronounced "goo
    too-too", or "gew-tew-tew" if you're royalty). No, wait, I made that
    last bit up.
    
    What was the question?
    
    -b

RE: -1, expected success of GWTW2

I only report what I read in the papers. I supposed at a pinch, "expect" can
mean "keep an eye out for" (ie hopefully), which is what it means in Latin.
Gosh, my classical education has finally come in useful. I won't be queuing for
Puce, or whatever it's called, though.

re: .4 I'm not sure that Rafe Fines is theatrical enough for Strasser's bro.
He's a real psycho in Schindler's list, not a cardboard cutout with style like
Strasser. (I think of Ian Richardson because he's from a classical stage
background like Conrad Veidt, but has lately been ace as the Tory villian in
House of Cards and To Play the King on the BBC.) 

Maybe Strasser has a psycho younger brother. Or how about the echt deutsch
Rutger Hauer?

    Heard a tape of the late, great Sam Kinison on the way home from work
    last night on the WBCN 5:05 comedy spot.  He was a very funny guy.
    
    NAZZ

    I don't think a sequel should necessarily have all the original
    characters, after all, none of the actors will be the same and with the
    exception of Isabella, no one leaps to mind to play the main roles.
    Harrison Ford could pull off Rick except that his talent lies more in
    the physical aspects of his roles. 
    
    I can't think of who might take on the understated Bogey, it seems his
    shadow still looms across the years.
    
    John
    
    
    

    Mel Gibson as Rick
    Pierce Brosnan as Renault

    I think Isabella Rossillini  (sp?) is an exceptionally boring actress. 
    I don't think she should get the role just because she's Ingrid
    Bergman's daughter.  Maybe Michelle Pfieffer?
    
    Lorna
    

    
    Jayne Seymore as Ilsa!  I second Pierce Broson for Reanult.
    
    I can't think of anyone who could play Rick.

As someone has pointed out, you don't have to cast all of the characters from
the original film, and you'd want some new ones. The question is, what sort of
plot are they in?

There are two and a bit possibilities:

	Rick and Louis with the Free French 

	Ilse, Lazlo and Rick in occupied or just liberated Europe

	Rick and Ilse somewhere else, eg in a small town in the US hiding from 	
	Nazi agents (that's the half, because you can't really ignore the WW2 	
	context, but someone might try)

You probably need another woman for Rick, a nasty Nazi, a musician and some
comic Europeans whatever the plot. You could also give a walkthrough part to
Harry Lime.

Personally, I'm sure Lazlo is really an undercover Nazi (see Night Train to
Munich). You could combine Ilse in danger with the Free French plot, and have
her just in cameos (imprisoned and then released) in which case Isabella should
suit everyone, as her being recognisable as Ilse is far more important to
viewers than her part in the plot.

etc.

Helen 

    Ok, I'll play too...
    
    While I wouldn't mind seeing Isabella fill her mother's shoes as
    Ilsa, Lena Olin is a better actress and would fit the part.
    
    While I'm not a big fan of Jack Nicholson, he has the requisite
    cynicism to play Rick.
    
    Ian Richardson could *almost* equal Claude Rains in that role.
    
    Richard

    Yes, Lena Olin would be good, and is definitely a better actress.
    
    Lorna
    

    
    I thought David Soul was superb as Rick in the 80's TV series Casablanca
    and can be the only choice in a movie sequel.
    
    As he also starred in the greatest ever TV series Starsky and Hutch,
    the inimitable rapport could return with Paul Michael Glaser stepping
    into Ingrid Bergman's shoes as Ilsa and Antonio "Huggy Bear" Fargas
    was born to play Sam.
    
    Whoever ends up in it, it'll stink just the same.
    
    Iain
    
     

    Carl Weathers as the leader of all illegal activities in Brazzaville:
    parallel to Sydney Greenstreet's role but more like Al Capone.
    
      John

			I can't believe what I'm reading here...

	Kevin Costner, Jack Nicholson, good grief, Bogie must be spinning

	in his grave.  Just leave the bloody thing alone - you cannot 

	improve on perfection.

	My 2p.

		Bob.

    They already did Casablanca II. Saw it! Liked it!
    
    
    
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