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Title:Movie Reviews and Discussion
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Created:Thu Jan 28 1993
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1249
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650.0. "TimeCop" by 16134::LYONS_S () Wed Sep 14 1994 19:00

    
    
    Has anyone heard anything good, bad or indifferent about Jean-Claude
    Van Damme's new movie Time Cop?  I've read recently that he hopes this
    will be his movie to bring him to Shwarzenagger status.  He also has
    another movie coming out this fall called Street Fighter based off of
    the video game.  I saw the previews for Time Cop, it looks like it
    could be interesting.  
    
    
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650.1VanDamage-----Van Damage.....36767::RAGUCCIWed Sep 14 1994 19:407
    
    
    
    He's making the talk show rounds and was in Boston Tuesday;
    the movie looks good, sci-fi-futuristic; he said thats ok with him
    but doesn't like kicking in his underwear...
    
650.2He'll NEVER be Arnie16929::SMITH_MAWed Sep 14 1994 19:427
    I haven't heard anything although I saw the trailer in the theatre when
    I went recently to see NBKillers and the audience hooted with delight
    when the preview ended.  I myself am not a Van Damme fan (I think he's
    an idiot...did you see him on Letterman the other night?  I remember my
    first beer ;*) )
    
    MJ
650.3Arrogant16134::LYONS_SFri Sep 16 1994 15:5015
    
    
    I think it's rather an idiot also.  He definately knows he's good
    looking and there have been many stories of his "shananigans" with the
    ladies!  Including fooling around with the wife of the guy who owns the
    Hawaiin Tropic suntan lotion company.  Apparently VD used to make guest
    appearance at the HT Beauty Pagents and he was having a fling with the
    guys wife.
    
    I have to admit he IS nice to look at, but he is an arrogant SOB.
    
    The concept of TimeCop looks good though, so I'll probably go see it. 
    
    FWIW, it opens today.
    
650.4Brainless, but entertaining.10529::HAYNESMon Sep 19 1994 17:466
    I saw it this weekend... it's an OK movie, ignores a few basic
    time-travel principles, including those that it sets up itself...
    
    Definitly not a great movie, but entertaining.
    
    Michael
650.5Time Cop36058::TARDUGNOMSun Sep 25 1994 20:264
    Saw it...liked it
    he might be arrogant but hey he IS good to look at and that accent!!
    
    
650.6The split screen shots needed some work65320::RIVERSEven better than the real thingMon Sep 26 1994 12:5427
    It was a fun, fluffy movie.  A few glaring plot holes, but I tried not
    to think too much about the intricate nuances of time travel. This
    wasn't a "time travel" movie, it was an action movie which had time
    travel as a plot device.  Jean-Claude was well, himself, and did a
    decent job of doing what the script told him to do.  The always fun to
    watch Bruce McGill (who played Jean-Claude's boss) was, well, always
    fun.  Ron Silver was fairly ept as the smarmy senator, but as the
    senator was decidedly non-physical, the movie lacked the excitement of
    a big bru-hah-hah between the Good Guy and the Bad guy that we come to
    expect out of these things.  I guess the villian and the good guy don't
    *have* to fight hand to hand all the time for a movie to be
    interesting, but if they don't, the villian needs to be extra sinister
    or something.  Like Hans Gruber in "Die Hard".  Ron Silver's senator
    got some witty lines, was appropriately power hungry, buuuuuut...that
    was about it.  Lacked something there.
    
    Also, the gal who got to play Jean-Claude's semi-partner was wasted --
    she's got cuteness and charisma, but alas, not all that much to do.  
    
    Effects were computer-generated "neat", and even a little bit original.  
    
    All in all, not a waste of two hours.  I've seen better by JCVD, but
    then again, I've seen worse.
    
    **.5 out of ****
    
    kim
650.7Thumbs downTROOA::TRP109::Chrisprognosis negativeMon Sep 26 1994 13:076
Saw this one on Friday night - wouldn't recommend anyone paying full price 
to see it.  I was actually pretty bored for most of the movie - not too much 
new in the action sequences, and JCVD doing the splits gets stale after 
awhile.

Chris
650.8It's worth the time!LUDWIG::SSHEAFri Oct 07 1994 16:5738
    I saw this yesterday and did like it. I go to the movies to be
    entertained, not to read anything into the movie, or try to get
    something from it or critique subtle flaws that all movies have. So...
    my outlook on movies aside, I thought it was entertaining, had great
    special effects, good action, basic but solid story line, and I thought
    the characters were all believable.
    
    As far as a previous noters mention of JCVD's splits, it's just like
    Arnolds "I'll be back"... it's something of a trade mark. I would agree
    it would get old if he did it in every fight but I only recall him
    using it twice and in both cases it "worked" for the moment. 
    
    Not to give anything away but I felt the scenes when he went "back" and
    the interaction he had with people were pretty realistic as to what one
    would actually go through should time travel be real.
    
    I would say if you like JCVD anyway then the price of the ticket is
    worth it. He delivers what he usually does so you won't be
    disappointed. If you like action movies and maybe not JCVD you may want
    to see it at a matinee for 1/2 price. Any action lovers should see it
    whether at a matinee or waiting until video, you won't lose anything
    by going from the large screen to TV. The special effects are neat but
    they don't have to be big to enjoy them.
    
    On the side... Is how you perceive someone outside of the movies really
    all that important to how you see them in the movies? Earlier comments
    on JCVD being arrogant or whatever in real life don't seem to carry
    over into his movies. I feel this is true of alot of actors. I agree
    that there are some actors who I have seen interviewed, or read things
    about that influenced how I felt about them, but if they are good at
    their "job" this doesn't follow them into their character and I will
    enjoy the movie anyway. I could care less if the person is a complete
    %#@hole in real life, if I like the way he or she portrays a character
    I will go to see their movie. Just something I wanted to say, sorry I
    rambled on.
    
    Shawn
    
650.9WMOIS::LYONS_SFri Oct 07 1994 18:2819
    RE: Shawn
    
    Good point made about actors and their "jobs" vs. them in real life.  I
    pretty much feel the same about going to the movies as you do.  I like
    to be entertained.
    
    Comment after form feed for those who haven't seen it yet
    
    
    
    
    I really liked the ending where he realizes he has a son and that he
    did save his wife.  I thought the tears he shed added a nice touch.
    
    All in all I liked this movie.  I'm not sure if it will bring JCVD to
    "Shwarzenagger" status, but I enjoyed it and will be in line to see
    Streetfighter when that's released.
    
    
650.10Like acting, dislike actors...DECWET::HAYNESTue Oct 11 1994 21:018
    There are a number of actors I don't care for much in real life...or
    when they were alive... but enjoy the contributions they have made...
    
    Star Trek wouldn't be the same without Shatner, and Michael Landon and
    Jerry Lewis did their fair share, though in person neither were and are
    anyone I'd ever want to meet again...
    
    My opinion...
650.11Looking for Jean-ClaudeNEMAIL::TARDUGNOMSat Mar 18 1995 22:068
    .9
     I saw this in the theatre and then rented it when it came out on
    video....I also liked the way they ended this....I started crying
    myself...this is his Best movie so far.....
    
    Can someone tell me  When this is going to be released to BUY??
    I went wild trying to find it for sale and no luck...
    
650.12awesomeHOTLNE::FWATSONSun Mar 26 1995 21:222
    Time Cop is the best Van Damme yet. It's got all the action you would
    expect but a great story line to. See it, love it.
650.13SUFRNG::WSA038::SATTERFIELDClose enough for jazz.Mon Apr 17 1995 21:548

re .11

It's available for sale right now, on laserdisc.


Randy
650.14NETRIX::michaudSinbadTue Apr 18 1995 05:0214
>     .9
>      I saw this in the theatre and then rented it when it came out on
>     video....I also liked the way they ended this....I started crying
>     myself...this is his Best movie so far.....

	I can't believe two of you liked the ending as that was probably
	the biggest plot hole in the whole movie!  Ie. first off the
	house was demolished, but the last scene has it untouched.
	But worse than that is that he has lost 10 years worth of
	memories.

	However ignoring the ending, and several other time-travel
	style plot holes, the film overall was entertaining and
	kept my attention, even though I'm not a fan of this actor.
650.15Excuse Me but aren't you ME??707VAX::ROGERW::MONAGHANMy logic was not in error, however I was in error.Tue Jun 13 1995 17:4720
    re .14
    
    
    	Just watched this again on video and noticed another
    	big hole. The Senator was "blobbed out " after he
    	killed Parker of Parker Datalinks but the Parker
    	Logo was back when VD returned to the present. This
    	is verified by the past senator showing up  at the
    	house after geeting the phone call from future self (VD's
    	phony call) . The senator met himself at the Parker killing
    	so these events had to be after that. 
    
    	But , other than that annoying paradox, the movie was
    	Funny, and good action flick, especially the fight scenes
    	on the rooftop.
    
    
    
    
    				Roger