Conference bookie::movies

    
    	Claude is a moron, or he leads everyone to believe it at
    	least.  I prefer Dolph Lundgren, who plays the same roles
    	but is better at it, for whatever reasons.  Doesn't seem
    	to be as much of an idiot.
    
    							GTI

    re .14, Yes, Claude has led me to believe he is a moron.
    
    :-)
    
    Lorna
    

RE       <<< Note 323.13 by VAXWRK::STHILAIRE "Food, Shelter & Diamonds" >>>

>    (why else would Sylvester Stallone and Bruce Willis be stars?
>      not to mention Claude Van Damme)
    
  Rockie I and Rambo First Blood were good movies. Rockie II and Rambo were
ok but not that great. Now he's suffering from the fact that they tried to
stretch those ideas too far and he hasn't been able to come up with anything
new. 

  Bruce Willis was pretty good in a movie I really hated where he played an
abusive husband who got murdered by his really stupid wife who had really
stupid relatives and friends. Anyone remember the name of that film?
Moonlighting was an ok TV show. When ever he tries to be an action hero
he's pretty bad.

  As for the other guy, I don't know.

  What this has to do with the good son? I guess nothing.

  George

    
    
    Dolph has a degree in Chemical engineering I think. Compared to Claude
    he's a frigging Einstein. This last movie Claude did he said to the
    press "I don't take my shirt off in movies anymore unless it's a
    real important scene that requires it." Duh..... :()

    
    If I'm not mistaken, Dolph Lundgren was a Rhodes Scholar at MIT.
    
    DFW

Re: .3
    
    >  Bruce Willis was pretty good in a movie I really hated where he played an
    > abusive husband who got murdered by his really stupid wife who had really
    > stupid relatives and friends. Anyone remember the name of that film?

    
    I believe that movie was MORTAL THOUGHTS, with Demi Moore as the wife.
    I saw that one on a sneak preview from a local radio station. I was
    buying a ticket for some other movie, and one of the radio folks walked
    up to me and asked if I wanted to see a free movie. Even with it being
    free and a sneak, the theater wasn't even half full.
    
    Catherine
    

    Well, I like pretty much all of the "morons" mentioned.  Most of them
    (Arnie, Sylvester, Jean-Claude, Dolph), are indeed genre actors.  Bruce
    Willis seems an apt enough actor, although he generally plays the same
    sort of guy.  I sincerely doubt that any of these people are
    intellectually-challenged, no matter how stupid they might appear on
    the screen.
    
    
    kim

    I, actually, thought Mortal Thoughts was a pretty good movie.  It was a
    fairly good portrayal of wife abuse, plus the acting was good, even
    Willis' I admit.  Demi Moore was good in that.  She's definitely more
    talented than hubby, I think.  And, I know Bruce Willis can't be that
    stupid in real life, because Demi Moore sounds reasonably intelligent
    in interviews and I don't think she'd marry a stupid man.  But, I still
    hate most of his movies.  
    
    Arnold S. is supposed to be intelligent, too, but I disagree with his
    politics.  But, I don't think Maria Shriver would marry a stupid man,
    either!  :-)
    
    Lorna
    

    Re .6
    
    Small nit, Demi Moore was the wife's best friend in Mortal Thoughts not 
    the wife.
    
    She's definitely more likeable than Bruce. I think he peaked in Die
    Hard one, and a lot of people refuse to admit it. Being in California,
    one hears from friends of friends of friends... and he's also
    reportedly somewhat of a jerk in real life.
    
    FWIW,
    
    
    Marilyn

    
    
    
    Don't count Arnold as one of the morons. Arnold was into buying
    property back when he was bodybuilding. I heard he was rich before
    even doing movies. The way he has built his career is brillant.
    He may be the smartest of the bunch. You gotta give him credit
    he married Maria Shriver, wowza!!!!....
    
                -=-=-R~C~W-=-=-

    An immigrant from Ganz, Austria becomes rich in America by his own 
    hard work and dedication.  You can't fault him for thinking others
    should be able to pull their own, ahhh, weight.
    
    Besides, he has good taste in women :-)
    
      John

    re .11, well, in my opinion I think that even successful people should
    realize that circumstances vary for everyone, and that just because he
    "made it" that doesn't mean that everyone can.  However, this is a
    movie topic, and I don't want to get into politics.  Let it suffice to
    say that I think Ahnold's politics stink.  I don't think he's stupid,
    though.  And, yes, I admit it's always quite a coup to snag one of the
    Kennedy grandchildren.  :-)   (I wouldn't mind a crack at Joe, Jr.
    myself!)
    
    Lorna
    

    Willis was also very good as a bitter Vietnam vetin "In Country", a
    movie that I thought would skyrocket Emily Lloyd to stardom.  Don't
    know where she's been since "Cookie".
    
    NAZZ

    Wasn't Emily Lloyd in A River Runs Through It last year?
    
    Lorna
    

Along with a couple of other obscure things between the two:

Wish You Were Here (1987)  [Lynda]
Cookie (1989)
In Country (1989)
Chicago Joe and the Showgirl (1990)  [Betty Jones]
Scorchers (1991)  [Splendid]
River Runs Through It, A (1992)  [Jessie Burns]

    re. 11
    ..a small mistake, Arnie is from Graz (that's the capital of Styria) in
    Austria.
    
    Even if his movies are not my taste at all, I think it's great what
    he has achieved. 
    What I admire and what distinguishes him from others, is that he
    donates not only money for e.g. children who have an impediment (I
    don't know the correct adjective), but he spends his time to work with
    them. Last year for example he was at the Special Olympics which
    took place here in Austria and I had the impression that it was not
    only a PR gag, but a real concern of him.
    
    Andrea
    
                                             

RE       <<< Note 339.8 by VAXWRK::STHILAIRE "Food, Shelter & Diamonds" >>>

>    I, actually, thought Mortal Thoughts was a pretty good movie.  It was a
>    fairly good portrayal of wife abuse, plus the acting was good, even
>    Willis' I admit.  


  I agree that Mortal Thoughts was a fairly good portrayal of wife abuse. The
reason I didn't like it was that there were no likable characters. 

  As I recall, everyone was either abusive, very stupid, or so high strung they
couldn't hold a rational thought in their head for a moment. For example, I
seem to remember one scene where an entire "grieving" family was chasing Demi
More's character down a hall trying to stop her from getting into a truck used
for a crime when a more sensible approach would have been for one of them to
dial 911. Either they were all very stupid or that scene was poorly made. 

  Likewise with the bumbling attempts at covering up the crime. By the end of
the show I had no sympathy for any of them. It was little more than a movie
about idiots being abusive to other idiots. 

  Mind you they did a very good job of it, but I find it very difficult to like
a movie, no matter how well it is made, when I can't grow to like any of the
characters. 

  George 

    re .17, I, also, have trouble liking a movie if I don't like any of the
    characters, but in the case of Mortal Thoughts I found Demi Moore's
    character at least somewhat sympathetic.  I wasn't crazy about her, but
    I liked her enough to get interested in what happened to her, and to
    sort've side with her or take her viewpoint on the situation.  I, also,
    enjoyed the friendship between the two women in the beginning of the
    movie.
    
    As far as the characters being stupid...well, I didn't get the
    impression that any of them were supposed to be geniuses, but that's no
    reason not to like people, or not to be sympathetic to their cause, is
    it?
    
    Lorna
    

		"Altavista ... Altavista ...Altavista"

The other day I had a bet with my friend (who works for HP), that he come up 
with *any* 5 different topics (reasonable ones), and I can get enough 
information using "Altavista and the Web" - in just - 5 minutes for each topic. 

He came up with:

	"Fish Oils and Amino acids"
	"WORM - optical disks"
	"Natives of Amazon"
	"Seinfeld"
	"Female circumsicion"

.. and you can guess the result -):

-Jk

    I would have thought rice pudding wrestling would be a far better bet
    as there would be no need for added sugar.
    
    Maybe they could do a sponsorship deal with Ambrosia and who knows we
    could have some more quality programming in the form of "Ambrosia Rice
    Pudding" (or "ARP") wrestling on L!ve TV.... Instead of
    or as well as, the topless darts and lunchbox volleyball of course.
    
    Stephen

    
    
    how the heck does Cream corn fit into the discussion of this movie
    huh??
    
    someone just suggests a word like  "Horse shoe " and the entire
    conversation follows down that rathole! :)))))
    
    Besides there aren't that many scenes with horseshoes in the movie.
    
    Chris
    :)

>   Besides there aren't that many scenes with horseshoes in the movie.
    
    Now, there's the old saying: "Close only counts in horseshoes" ...
    
    But I don't recall seeing Glenn Close in this movie. Why? (And the real
    question: will Slabounty have the nerve to append her filmography to
    this response?)

>>    it a second time.  To make it worse, it was a good fifteen minutes into
>>    it before I remembered suffering through it already.
   

	-): -):

	been there.. done that!! 
/Jk

    
    Welcome to the "memory like a sieve" association.
    
    
    I.

    
    	Ken, I really do hope you're kidding.
    

    
    	"Stolen" is not a good word to use if it's not accurate.
    

    ....well, I dunno...I could always use another 1/3...hey, another arm
    would probably constitute 1/3 extra....hmmmmmm...now you gots me
    thinking.....
    
    
    
    ...one to use the remote, one to open a beer, and another for spare....
    
    
    %^}
    
    mac