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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

617.0. "Safe investment place for house eqity $$$?" by NPSS::WADE (Bill Wade, Network Systems Support) Wed Nov 17 1993 16:44

    I need some advice on where to put approx $50,000 for a period of 3-6
    months.  The money is equity from the sale of our house which will close
    on 1-Dec.  We are building a new house and won't need the money until 
    Apr or May.  Anyone have experience with this sort of situation or have
    any advice on where to put the money besides a savings account?
     
    Are there any tax/IRS gotchas with holding on to the equity from the sale 
    of your house for a 6 month period?
    
    Thanks,
    Bill
    
    
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617.1SavingsKOALA::BOUCHARDThe enemy is wiseWed Nov 17 1993 17:159
    What's wrong with a savings account?  I'm quite serious, I wouldn't
    want to put money I need in 3-6 months in any vehicle carrying any
    risk.
    
    You could look for a 3-month CD, but you'll probably find that the
    difference between a 3-month CD and a savings account is pretty small.
    
    I believe you have 2 years to roll the gain into a new primary
    residence.
617.2or for low risk, low return, and tax freeMIPS16::WARERalph WareWed Nov 17 1993 18:282
    what about a tax-free money market fund?
    
617.3low risk tax freeBUMP::BJORGENSENWed Nov 17 1993 19:182
    A second for a low risk tax-free money market fund.  You should 
    be able to get 2-3ish percent tax free.
617.4State Based Tax-Free FundTRACTR::HUSTONJeff HustonWed Nov 17 1993 19:345
    I was in the same position last year and put my cash in the Mass
    Tax-Free Fund at Fidelity.  In an environment of dropping interest
    rates the investment did reasonably well, with little risk.
    
    Jeff
617.5REDZIN::DCOXWed Nov 17 1993 19:5813
This should be a no-brainer.  Put it in a Money Market account.  That way, you 
can count on having the money you need when you need it..

Even a Tax-Free Muni fund will have FMV flucuations.  The last thing you need 
is to pull out your money the day after some interest rate rumor causes your 
fund's fmv to drop.

You'll sleep better at night.


As Always, For What It's Worth.....

Dave
617.6VMSDEV::HAMMONDCharlie Hammond -- ZKO3-04/S23 -- dtn 381-2684Thu Nov 18 1993 12:3712
      Tax Free Money Market.
      
re: 617.4

>    I was in the same position last year and put my cash in the Mass
>    Tax-Free Fund at Fidelity.  In an environment of dropping interest
                                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>    rates the investment did reasonably well, with little risk.
     ^^^^^
    
      Yes, but if interest rates had risen, you'd have lost.  I don't
      think that now is a good time to bet that rates will not rise.
617.7MASS TAX-Free FUNDSSTRATA::SHANKARThu Nov 18 1993 14:1913
    Ref: 617.4
    
    I believe that there are two MAss tax free funds at Fidelity. ONe
    is a money market bond and the other is a 'High Yield' tax-free which
    invests in muni bonds.   Does anyone know what are the approximate
    returns on the two during the last year, last month etc.  (or does
    anyone know the exact names of these funds, so that I can myself
    look it up in WSJ)   Thanks.
    
    Raj
    
    
    
617.8Money market fund is 2.05%USCTR1::BJORGENSENThu Nov 18 1993 14:271
    
617.9..be safe, not greedyISLNDS::HUTNICKThu Nov 18 1993 18:4113
    If the the sale of your house yielded a profit (sale price - purchase
    price - expenses during the period), the the IRS says that you have 12
    months to reinvest it in a 'similar' type of investment (which would be
    another form of primary residence). THis would not apply to any portion
    that is equity (down payment, principal paid) you made on the first
    house. IF you do not reinvest in a similar investment, then the IRS
    will view that profit as short-term or long-term capital gain and will
    be subject to a tax rate in which bracket you will be in.
    If you are looking to invest this $50K someplace for the next 3-6
    months in order to buy another house.......DON't take any chances and
    don't get greedy!!! You will sleep better if you simply put it in a 3
    or 6 month CD. I know it only pays 2 - 3% but it is SAFE and the market
    is volatile at present. Mark
617.10NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Nov 22 1993 12:273
re .9:

Last I looked, you have to buy a residence within 2 years, not 1.
617.11for 3-6 months, bank it.ZENDIA::FERGUSONRed XFri Dec 03 1993 21:266
Whatever to decide, don't buy into a fund that has a load!

I have $ in MA TF Scudder and Dreyfus.  Scudder is doing a bit better;
WSJ gives the scudder fund an "A" and the dreyfus one a "D"...

if i were you, i'd bank the $50k in at a FDIC insured bank.
617.12A LITTLE MORE RISK & 2X-3X TIMES THE RETURN!!!!!POBOX::PATELMon Dec 20 1993 16:3515
    If you do want to take a little risk and are willing to put in some
    effort, get into the "SAFER" "HI-YIELD FUNDS".  Now a lot of RED flags
    get raised when anyone says that but if you watch the price action and
    have a sell-stop 3-5% below the BUY price you can make 8%-10% on you
    money for the short term and get-away in this low-inflation/low-growth
    phase.  Interest rates may go up and affect you investment, but in this
    environment, you can get 2x to 3x money market rates-IF YOU ARE WILLING
    TO DO SOME HOMEWORK EVERYDAY.  
    
    This is definitely not as safe as MONEY MARKET or INSURED CD, but you
    definitely did not ask the question "Where should I put the money?" to
    just get the "default" answer.  Hi Yield would be the answer if you are
    willing to take some risk and do some home work (2x to 3x!!!).
    
    KP
617.13Don't gambleKOALA::BOUCHARDThe enemy is wiseMon Dec 20 1993 20:076
    Just one opinion, but I disagree completely with .12.  Money which one
    expects to use as a down payment on a home in a relatively short period
    should not be gambled with.  
    
    Over the last few years it has been hard not to do well in either the
    stock or bond markets, almost across the board.  This is atypical.
617.14How about Scudder Short Term BondNAPIER::VERMAVirendra, MRO4-3/H10, DTN 297-5913Wed Jan 05 1994 20:212
Scudder Short Term Bond is quite stable. Currently, it's average 
return is about 6%. A good place to park your money!!
617.15ZENDIA::FERGUSONRed XThu Jan 06 1994 01:258
re    <<< Note 617.14 by NAPIER::VERMA "Virendra, MRO4-3/H10, DTN 297-5913" >>>
                     -< How about Scudder Short Term Bond >-

>Scudder Short Term Bond is quite stable. Currently, it's average 
>return is about 6%. A good place to park your money!!

i just sold my stake in this one;  i think over the last 3 months, its
average was about 5.5% or so, with _very_ little share-price movement.