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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

934.0. "Index funds as semi-tax-deferred vehicle ?" by NPSS::BENZ (I'm an idiot, and I vote) Wed Nov 01 1995 18:18

    It seems to me that funds based on stable indexes (such as the S&P 500)
    are a way to avoid much of the dreaded "realized capital gains" that
    are taxed every year.
    
    If a fund is holding a constant portfolio, and only sells/buys as
    people buy in and sell out, then the only realized yield should be
    in dividends, or due to changes in the index composition.
    
    Am I right ?  What might I have overlooked here ?
    
    To what extent do most index funds match the index composition exactly,
    versus the often seen quote "seeks to match the PERFORMANCE of ..."
    (capitalization mine) ?  I asked a phone dweeb at Fidelity about this,
    and he said that only 80% of their S&P indexfund is held in equities,
    and wasn't very helpful otherwise.
    
    I'll be looking into the often recommended Vanguard - any other
    recommendations ?
    
    \chuck
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934.1VanguardSLOAN::HOMWed Nov 01 1995 19:298
Vanguard is the absolute lowest expense ratio 
retail SP500 index fund available.

The only scenario that I can think of (and it's unlikely but possible)
is if there were a net redemption. In that case, the
fund would have to sell shares - possibly with capital gains.

Gim
934.2VAXCPU::michaudJeff Michaud - ObjectBrokerThu Nov 02 1995 02:4314
>     If a fund is holding a constant portfolio, and only sells/buys as
>     people buy in and sell out, then the only realized yield should be
>     in dividends, or due to changes in the index composition.

	Yup, changes to the index will realize gains (or maybe losses
	as there is probably a reason a stock is being removed from
	the index).  However as you certainly realize (by choosing one
	based on S&P500 vs. the DJIA or other DJ index), a few changes
	every now and then with 500 stocks in the index probably will
	be pennies (at least relatively speaking :-) in realized gains.

	There are some other even broader indexes, but I have no idea
	if any have funds that mirror their composition, or if even
	those indexes fair as well as the S&P500 ....