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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

541.0. "MS good buy at 73 ??" by SAHQ::SEERNANI () Fri Jul 30 1993 17:33

    A two part question:
    
    	1. Microsoft is down 5+ points to about 73. What's going on ?
    	   Anyone know ?
    
    	2. Is it a good buy at this price or is it going to drop further ?
    	   If someone has the stock should they be concerned ?
    
    Any insight from experts in this conference will be appreciated.
    
    chandan
    
         
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541.1MSBCS::BROWN_LFri Jul 30 1993 18:195
    Bill had a conference and said that their past growth (27% last
    year) rate probably wouldn't be maintained and that future growth
    would more match the industry (@10-15%ish).  Stiff competition
    from Lotus and Borland (also down), the maturing DOS=>Windows
    conversion, and misc other factors were blamed. 
541.2SUBWAY::SAMBAMURTYRajaFri Jul 30 1993 19:022
    ...and add to this to the fact that most brokerage houses (Goldman,
    Merril, Cowen.....) downgraded the stock.
541.3You have to look at earnings growthPIPE::DODGEFri Jul 30 1993 20:4215
    A good rule is that the P/E for a stock should be near its growth rate.
    So if a stock is selling at a P/E of 20, the earnings should be growing
    at 20% per year.
    
    In the case of Microsoft they just earned $3.15 @ share, up from $2.41
    @ share last year.  That translates to roughly 31% growth.  The P/E
    when the stock is selling at $73 is 23 times.  If earnings continued to
    grow at 30% per year, then Microsoft is a great buy at $73.
    
    If earnings growth is around 15% then 15 times earnings is a more
    appropriate P/E.  This would translate into a stock price of $47.25
    based on trailing earnings.
    
    Earning growth drives stock prices ...... even Microsofts.
    
541.4and the trend in earnings growthWAREGL::CHANDRASEKHASun Aug 01 1993 15:4610
    And the trend in earnings growth. Although they grew 31% on a yearly basis,
    the growth for the quarter as compared to the same quarter last year
    was around 27%. For example, if the stock has growth rates 34%, 32%, 29%
    and 27% over Q1, Q2, Q3 and Q4 over the same quarters the previous year
    it would show growth slowing down. Microsoft's growth has been slowing
    down, as have the growth rates of other growth companies such as Novell 
    and Wal-Mart.
    
    ... Kris Chandrasekhar.
    
541.5Well then, how about at $84?DECWET::LAURUNEBill Laurune, DECwest EngineeringWed Oct 13 1993 13:185
    
    MS is at $84 today (13-oct-93), so in retrospect, it was a good buy at
    $73, at least as a short term investment. 
    
    Now the question becomes, is it a good buy at $84?