Conference nyoss1::market_investing

    
    	You are talking heresy here. But in any case the rule of thumb is
    to buy after the split (watch the stock closely after it actually
    splits since most stocks will dip downward as holders sell hunks
    of their split shares).
    
    	H-P is a solid performer, BTW, in nearly all its business lines.
    
    		the Greyhawk
    

> If DEC performed like this, morale would improve instantly ..I'll wake up!
> Description   : HEWLETT PACKARD CO                           
> Last Traded at: 116.000      Date/Time   : Feb 16  3:45:34
> $ Change      : 10.625       % Change    : 10.08   

	But we have performed like that (and even better)!  While
	10.625 sounds impressive, it's only 10% increase in value
	(still not too shabby).  But remember DEC was trading at
	below 19 just last June or July.  We're now at 36, a whopping
	90% increase!

    Rumors on the street today of a Packard and Packard...
    HP taking over Packard Bell, a combo which would instantly
    vault them past IBM, Apple, and COMPAQ in the PC market.

    Hmmm...neither price nor volume (of HWP) are unusually high, nor
    is any news indicated.
    
      John

    
    	Reminds me of all the rumours that swirled about us years ago when
    we were hot, hot, hot...
    
    	Besides H-P is smarter than that. Why would they want to buy a
    low-end PC assembler who duplicates their existing channels of
    distribution? 
    
    		the Greyhawk

It is extremely difficult to establish new channels
of distribution - computer stores don't want to carry
yet another mfg.

This would be big move on HP's part.  When HP bought
Apollo - everyone thought they would fail.  Now look.

Gim

    
    	H-P already distributes everywhere Packard Bell does. They call
    'em printers. Since the channel is already in place, H-P just says
    now we have PCs too. Since H-P already makes PCs, why would they
    want PB?
    
    	It would not be a good move on H-Ps part. It would be stupid,
    like Digital deciding to purchase AST.
    
    			the Greyhawk

    H-P doesn't make SOHO PC's tho; they already have the channel, but
    not the product.  Chrysler and AMC both had car dealers all over
    the place, but Chrysler wanted the AMC's Jeep product.  Was that
    takeover stupid too?

    I live in Sacramento where Packard Bell is BIG news since they are in
    the process of relocating here from the LA basin.  They are moving into
    the old Sacramento Army Depot that was just closed due to one of the
    base closing rounds several years back.  At the same time they are
    expanding operations and hiring in the Sacramento area like crazy.  
    HP is also here too building PCs on the other end of town out in the
    suburb of Roseville.  Seeing what Packard Bell and HP are doing here
    in town, my feeling is that these rumors are false.  I have been wrong
    before, but I really don't see anything that would indicate it.
    
    John

    CNBC reported today that HP is rumored to be buying Cirrus Logic.
    
    If true, this could deal Digital a bit more of a blow.

    Just out of curiosity what is HP's revenue for their "computer
    division" if that's in fact how they are structured. I ask because
    HP is fairly visible in the scientific community for electronic
    measuring, monitoring, and test equipment as well as being fairly
    visible for monitoring systems in the healthcare industry.
    
    On an apple to apple computer comparison what's their size?
    

    re: .14
    
    I think HP's annual computer-related revenue is around $19-20 billion. 
    Their non-computer-related annual revenue is only a few billion (4-5?).
    
    	Steve

    did HP just split or secapl is all screwed up?
    
    Amin

    More likely it dropped like a rock like the rest of the market.  I know
    HP dropped over 10 points in one day a few days ago....
    

    Dropped down to $40? No way!
    
    Amin

	Did you really need to create a duplicate topic for HP? ...

   832  CSCMA::BALICH       16-FEB-1995    15  HP - 2nd largest computer company

> did HP just split or secapl is all screwed up?

	If you are using the secapl quoteserver then you also have
	the 52 week low/high in front of you which you can duduce ....

    I did look at 832. Last note in there is dated May '95.  You may delete
    my posting if it is out of place.
    
    I did see the 52-week lo/hi it does match a split.  I had not heard of
    any split news. So, I wanted to make sure I am not dreaming. 
    
    Amin

    Well, I should have paid more attention to the news. Below is what I
    found in HP pages.
    
    Amin
    
    
    Hewlett-Packard Company board of directors today approved a 2-for-1
    split of the company's common stock and raised the quarterly dividend
    by 20 percent. The company also announced the promotion of Larry
    Tomlinson, HP treasurer, to vice president. 
    
    The record date for the stock split is June 21, 1996. Shareholders of
    record as of that date will receive one new share of common stock for
    every share they owned on that date. Distribution of new shares will
    begin on July 15, 1996. 
    
    

> I did look at 832. Last note in there is dated May '95.

	I fail to see your point?  What's the date of the last note
	in there got to do with anything?  This ain't USENET! :-)
	(thank goodness!)

> You may delete my posting if it is out of place.

	Hopefully the moderator will (NOTES is not very secure and I
	could do it, but that's a different story)

Why delete this posting as it's just in the wrong place? Why not just move it
to the correct place?

-- Steve

    I really don't see the problem here. I needed some information quickly
    on HP.  Putting that question in a note related to HP dated FEB '95
    does not help, since I don't think people go and do a search/unseen on
    HP evereday.
    
    Amin

you'd be surprised my friend.
i next-unseen read daily
jc

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    <<< Note 1018.8 by HDLITE::PASHAPOUR "Disk space, the final frontier" >>>

    I really don't see the problem here. I needed some information quickly
    on HP.  Putting that question in a note related to HP dated FEB '95
    does not help, since I don't think people go and do a search/unseen on
    HP evereday.
    
    Amin

> Why delete this posting as it's just in the wrong place? Why not just move it
> to the correct place?

	Sorry, that's what I thought the noter was asking.  The moderator
	should clean up this topic and move the non-junk replies (un-like
	this one :-) to the existing topic.

> I really don't see the problem here. I needed some information quickly
> on HP.  Putting that question in a note related to HP dated FEB '95
> does not help, since I don't think people go and do a search/unseen on
> HP evereday.

	As JC said, the active readership (the ones most likely to
	respond to a query) of most any conference use NEXT UNSEEN
	to follow a conference.

	Creating duplicate topics every month like on USENET because
	the previous topic was not super-recent (Feb '95 BTW is
	still relatively recent, it's not unusual to see recent
	replies to topics with the last reply alot older than that)
	creates a conference that is a mess, hard to follow, and then
	hard to find anything when you do need to find something.

	And out of curiosity, why did you need an answer to your
	question "quickly"?  If you need reliable information quickly
	you should call your broker!  Trusting the accuracy of free
	advice will get you what you paid for :-)

    >	And out of curiosity, why did you need an answer to your
    >	question "quickly"?  If you need reliable information quickly
    >	you should call your broker!  Trusting the accuracy of free
    >	advice will get you what you paid for :-)

    Well, calling my broker costs me money :-) Everytime I call he tries to
    sell me new stock/bonds/funds and he is hard to get rid of. You the
    know the kind?
    
    Amin
    

> Well, calling my broker costs me money :-) Everytime I call he tries to
> sell me new stock/bonds/funds and he is hard to get rid of. You the
> know the kind?

	Yes, I know the kind.  That's why I'm with a discount broker
	who uses salaried only agents ..... (Waterhouse fwiw)

    The whole string, good, bad and ugly, has been moved to the correct
    place to discuss HP.
    
    In addition to the arguments already presented, it is also the case
    that we have KEYWORDS like "HWP" that make most stocks easy to find.
    
      John (Moderator)