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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

615.0. "Philip Morris " by CSCMA::BALICH () Fri Nov 12 1993 17:56

    
    Philip Morris's stock has been soaring for the last two weeks.
    
    From a low for 45/share to a high 59 1/2 today.
    
    MO has gotten BUY recommendation from 3 brokers (past two days).
    
    FYI: MO owns Miller, Kraft, General FOods, etc.
    
    I hear they are about to increase price on smokes by .04 /pack
    following RJR.
    
    Do you buy at this price or wait for a dip (ie. buy on weakness) ???
    
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615.1P.M. was once known as "Big MO"PIPE::DODGEMon Nov 15 1993 12:2913
    I own Phillip Morris now (at $50).  Also American Brands (at $30).
    I think they have another 15% to go in the next 6 months, even from
    these levels.  My sell targets are  $70 for P.M. and $40 for Am Brands.
    
    Both stocks pay around 5% dividends, and are near their 52 week lows.
    P.M. is very big in non tobacco businesses (Kraft) and about 60% of
    its tobacco business is outside the U.S.  Other countries are not as
    wild about healthcare or smoking as we in the U.S. are.
    
    I would buy now and hold for 15% gains, plus the 5% dividends, over the
    next 6 - 9 months.
    
    Don
615.2Learn thy subject well !BLOFLY::SMITHPBeware the knights who say "NT"...Wed Nov 17 1993 10:3325
    The stock has been largely out of favour this year, and is undergoing a 
    re-rating by the market.  PM looks diversified enough to sustain their 
    dividend yield.  
    
    It makes good sense to buy into a price rise, rather than trying to
    "pick the top or the bottom".   It's fine to set a price target, but 
    why not let the stock (and the market) dictate this :
    
    	Why not say "I'll sell (take profit) if the shares drop 5% (say) 
    	from a recent high."  Get to know the company, and get a feel for
    	how the stock price reacts in the marketplace.
    
    Also, ask yourself who is buying ??  Look at the historical performance;  
    is the current rate of increase consistent with rises over the last 5 
    years ??  A large institutional order could be pushing the price based
    on dividend expectations.  How does the recent turnover compare ??
    
    Oops; letting my technical analysis run away with me; all I'm really 
    saying is get to know your prospects real well  ...There could be 20% 
    or more in there, but who knows !!
    
    
    Cheers, 
    
    Peter.
615.3Any thoughts ???CSCMA::BALICHWed Aug 31 1994 19:5415
    
    Is the worst over ?
    
    Philip Morris just announced a HUGE buyback of outstanding shares.
    
    PLUS increased dividend from $276/share to $328/share, 20% increase.
    
    Currently the stock is -
    
    Symbol        : MO          Exchange    : New York Stock Exchange
    Description   : PHILIP MORRIS COS INC
    Current Price : 51.000      Volume      : 7994400
    $ Change      : 2.500       % Change    : 5.15    
    52 Week High  : 61.000      52 Week Low : 45.375   
     
615.4WrongPARVAX::SCHUSTAKDigital...AndProudOfIt!Wed Aug 31 1994 22:167
    Re -.1
    
    I dount that's correct. You show a last price of $51. It's been trading
    in the $55- $58 range the last few days, and In unnerstan it was up
    today (hopefully the $2.5 I'd heard it was up at one point :-).
    
    SteveS
615.5CSCMA::BALICHThu Sep 01 1994 14:275
    
    
    re .-1
    
    Your correct ... It was a mistake ... should read $61.
615.6RANGER::CLARKThu Sep 01 1994 21:212
... and if that dividend is really at $328/share for a stock trading at
$51/share, where can I get lots of shares fast %^)
615.7Gedne Howe has lots of investment opportunitiesUCROW::PEARSONFri Sep 02 1994 20:235
    Send check to Gedne Howe, in care of U. S. Marshals, Boston, MA.
    I'm sure he has plenty to sell.  Just don't expect to get the
    dividend right away.

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615.8Dividend was raised2155::michaudJeff Michaud - ObjectBrokerWed Aug 28 1996 19:235
	FWIW, as I reported in the tabacco topic, earlier this
	week the expectations were that MO would either raise
	their dividend or announce a stock buy back later
	this week.  Well they announced an increase in their
	dividend (though now I don't recall how much)
615.9Tobacco stocksCSCMA::BALICHTue Sep 03 1996 15:308
    
    re .-1
    
    MO increased dividend from temping $4.00/share to a yummy $4.80/share.
    
    A 20% increase.