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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

510.0. "Global funds?" by PINION::MCCONNELL () Tue Jun 29 1993 16:57

    Have any of the experts outthere any familiarity with the
    Scudder Global Fund or the Scudder Global Small Company Fund?
    
    I have sent for info on the Global Fund but am wondering what
    your take is on these funds and if anyone knows what the minimum
    investment is.  I understand they are high risk.
    
    At this point I have an IRA (SAVE), DEC stock, Scudder MASS. Tax free bond. 
    
    Thanks in advance
    
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510.1Scudder InternationalNOVA::FINNERTYSell high, buy lowTue Jun 29 1993 21:159
    
    I believe that Scudder Global has up to 30% or so invested in the U.S.
    
    If you want a pure international fund to make asset allocation
    decisions a little easier, you might also send for information on
    Scudder International Fund.
    
       /jim
    
510.2Higher risk/return wantedPINION::MCCONNELLWed Jun 30 1993 13:5515
    Thanks for your response.
    
    The reason I am considering Scudder Global is to hopefully add a better
    return to my overall selections.  I want to keep my present selections
    but invest modestly in something with higher risk that would also offer
    the potential of higher return.
    
    Do you consider 30% invested in the U.S. good or bad?  Would you look
    for something with more global investment?  Do you have any suggestions
    for other possibilities?
    
    I am a REAL novice and would appreciate any comments.
    
    Thx.
    
510.3Global vs. InternationalKOALA::BOUCHARDThe enemy is wiseWed Jun 30 1993 15:2115
    It isn't "bad" or "good" that Scudder's Global funds include U.S.
    investments -- .1 was just pointing out this fact, and the fact that
    Scudder's "International" funds are the 100% non-US funds.
    
    If you already own funds investing in the US then diversifying with a
    purely non-US fund might be appropriate for you.
    
    Also, I don't believe that the Scudder Global/International growth
    funds are particularly aggressive (read particularly high risk
    w/particularly high potential gains and losses).  Global equity funds
    as a class, of course, expose you to both the risk associated with
    equities (which, one hopes, will appreciate over time even if they had
    bad periods) and the risks associated with currencies, which are more
    likely to simply balance out over time.
    
510.4International Fund - Pacific Rim?AKOCOA::CRUZFri Sep 03 1993 14:248
    I was reading the preceding note about "Global" and "International"
    funds and have a question. I'm trying to find a growth/cap appreciation
    fund that invests primarily in the Pacific Rim without having a
    predominance in Japan and haven't been able to turn one up. Most seem
    to have 30% or more in Japan. I'm interested in Korea, Indonesia, NZ,
    Austr. etc.. but not Japan. Does anyone know of any funds like that?
    
    			Thanks. Melissa
510.5CADSYS::BOLIO::BENOITFri Sep 03 1993 14:314
Scudder just opened up a new one with those countries...It's call the Pacific
Opportunity Fund.

/mtb
510.6Fidelity SE Asia?KYOA::HANSONLe Chat d'EauFri Sep 03 1993 14:386
    
    Try looking into Fidelity's Southeast Asia fund.  The load has been
    waived, I think, until May, and from what I've heard, the fund has been
    doing quite well.
    
    /bh/
510.7Montgomery Emerging MarketsTLE::JBISHOPFri Sep 03 1993 15:115
    Montgomery Emerging Markets might help too--Japan is clearly
    an emerged market already.  It's a no-load.  Fidelity has an
    Emerging Markets fund, but it has a load.
    
    		-John Bishop
510.8T Rowe Price SE Asia FundFREEBE::NEARYBob NearyFri Sep 03 1993 15:223
    Southeast Asia but no Japan investments. = T Rowe Price Southeast Asia 
    Fund.
    
510.9T Rowe Price?AKOCOA::CRUZFri Sep 03 1993 15:302
    Thanks for all the info - I've never heard of T Rowe Price? Do you have
    an 800 number or something? thanks again.
510.10SOLVIT::CHENFri Sep 03 1993 15:596
    re: .8
    
    The T.Rowe Price fund is called the "T. Rowe Price New Asia". The
    number for TRP is 1-800-638-5660.
    
    Mike
510.11AKOCOA::CRUZFri Sep 03 1993 17:063
    Thanks. I've called for all recommended funds... should get the sheets
    next week. I'll post a comparison in case anyone's looking in the same
    direction I am. 
510.12AKOCOA::CRUZTue Sep 07 1993 13:256
    I got copies of Morningstar reports for each and have picked Fidelity
    Emerging Markets. Thanks for the help and if anyone wants the
    morningstar comparison, let me know. 
    
    
    	MHC
510.13SOLVIT::REDZIN::DCOXTue Sep 07 1993 14:4919
re .12

A point of caution on the Emerging Markets Fund.  They are HEAVILY invested in
Mexican securities - 18% of the fund. They are banking (pun intended) on NAFTA
being ratified by the US Congress.  IF NAFTA runs into trouble, Emerg. Mkt will
share that trouble.  If NAFTA sails through, EM will do just fine. At this
time, there MIGHT be enough votes in the Senate; there are not even close to
enough votes in the House.  

Eventually, some sort of NAFTA will be approved.  I have concluded that, in my
seldom_humble_opinion, it will be later rather than sooner and that I have
better things to do with my money than to add to the long_term_/_speculation
portion of my portfolio.  If you need to balance your portfolio with
speculative vehicles, go for it.  The quality of Fidelity's staff will limit
the downside. 

As Always, For What It's Worth.

Dave
510.14risk/reward??!!AKOCOA::CRUZTue Sep 07 1993 17:3017
    Dave,
    
    Thanks for the input. I am looking for a "somewhat" speculative vehicle
    that focuses on the PACRIM w/o Japan and South America w/o Brazil.
    You are right about the risk in Mexico but 18% doesn't sound "heavy" to
    me.... (I'm new at this game). I've got an aggressive-ish portfolio of
    mutual funds (Vista Growth, Hancock Special Equities, Fidelity Emerging
    Growth) and was going to top it off with little bit  of an extra-risky 
    perhaps extra-rewarding PacRim fund.
    
    This portfolio is intended as a college fund for my kids (now 3 & 5 - long
    way to go....) so I figured I'd take the risk now and down grade the
    risk as the time gets closer. But.... I am new at this, maybe too
    aggressive?? Thanks for the humble input.
    
    		Melissa
      
510.15SOLVIT::REDZIN::DCOXTue Sep 07 1993 17:5131
.14

Markets, companies, countries have cycles that are not always well defined and
it is next to impossible to precisely call the top and/or bottom of those
cycles. I try to "recognize" the point at which I have turned the corner and
have started down as the time to sell and the point at which I have turned the
corner and started up as the time to buy.  That way I avoid false starts.  The
"better" funds are managed by those folks who are better able to more closely
predict the actual maximum peaks and valleys. 

The best reason for anybody to buy Mutual Funds is for the inherent safety
their diversification offers due to a spreading out of cycles among many
companies.  For a fund to have 18% of its investments in any one bucket is to
degrade its safety from diversification. 

From a timing perspective, I think is too soon to pop into European funds
(their "recovery" is still a bit aways), too late (may have missed the sharpest
increase) for PACRIM funds, maybe ok for global funds that truely ARE global;
US, EUR, PACRIM, S. AMer.  

Although there are more than a few PACRIM funds that have done well and should
continue to do so, if 'twere me, I'd go for the Fidelity Contra Fund (superb
job at picking peaks and valleys on individual securities and industries) while
I watch and wait for foreign market funds.  In the mean time, read up on Macro
Economics to recognize when the foreign markets have begun swinging upwards
(also, if you get a Samuelson book, you will cure any insomnia) THEN, pick a
fund which has an objective similar to yours and invest. 

As Always, For What It's Worth...

Dave
510.16CPDW::ROSCHTue Sep 07 1993 17:573
    re .14
    PACRIM w/o Japan and SA w/o Brazil! I love that idea! You know more
    than you're letting on. :-)
510.17it can be fun....AKOCOA::CRUZTue Sep 07 1993 18:123
    I'm an ex-GIA finance person and have been watching those markets in 
    terms of overall growth, potential etc.. for sometime. ... or maybe I
    just like risk!!! :-) 
510.18What is the stigma with Brazil?PIET13::DEINNOCENTISJohn... PKO3-1/14DWed Sep 08 1993 13:387
Scudder Latin America Fund is geographically distributed between Mexico,
Brazil, Argentina and Chile.  Between April 30 and July 31 net asset value
rose to $14.98, up from $13.20 or 13.48%.  As I enter this they are at 
$17.59 or up over 33% from the beginning of their third quarter.

I've had fun playing in this one and hope the good times last a while longer.
I suspect there will be a cooling off.
510.19CADSYS::BOLIO::BENOITWed Sep 08 1993 14:123
re -.1....it has been fun hasn't it!  ;-)

michael
510.20See the SEP-93 issue of AAII journalLEDS::DTSULLIVANFri Sep 10 1993 16:456
    
    The AAII journal for Sept has an interview with the fund manager
    for the TRP New Asia fund.  
    
    dan
    
510.21AAII?AKOCOA::CRUZMon Sep 13 1993 12:232
    sorry to be ilinformed ... but what is the AAII Journal?
    
510.22Stigam with BrazilAKOCOA::CRUZMon Sep 13 1993 12:298
    re: .18 
    The stigma for Brazil is that I don't like things that I can't conceive
    of, and 2billion % inflation is something I can't conceive of. I'm sure
    that there are great opportunities there that fund managers can grab
    hold of but.... it scares me. (rule #1 - don't invest based on
    emotional reactions) -- I broke it... : )
    
     
510.23AAII is ...LEDS::DTSULLIVANMon Sep 13 1993 14:117
    
    WRT .21
    
    It is the American Association Of Individual Investors.  If you are
    interested in more information, I will post the address when I remember
    to bring in the info (tomorrow, hopefully).
    
510.24AAIIAKOCOA::CRUZMon Sep 13 1993 14:501
    Thanks, I would like it.