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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

139.0. "STRIP BONDS" by DNEAST::PIERCE_DICK () Tue Mar 31 1992 11:51

    My wife has a SEP IRA because she is a real estate broker and can put
    15% of her net pay each year away for retirement. She has always put
    her money into stocks or mutual funds and the retirement fund has shown
    good growth over the years. This year her advisor (at Advest)
    recommended STRIP BONDS and it sounded pretty good to us for a couple
    of reasons, first it spreads her money around and second it will triple
    the amount of money she puts in by the year 2005 (59 1/2).
    
    Anybody have any information on STRIP BONDS beyond what a salesperson
    might be telling us. Today we can buy the $1000 bond for $350 and it
    will be worth the $1000 in the year 2005 (almost 8%) and these are
    U.S. Government backed.
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139.1SSBN1::YANKESTue Mar 31 1992 13:2324
    
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    	The question you have to ask yourself is simply this: do you think
    8% is a decent interest rate to lock in for the next 13 years?  If yes,
    then go for it.  If not, hold off.
    
    	Something to look out for when buying anything, of course, is the
    amount of commission that the salesperson will be taking.  It can
    _really_ bite into your percentage return and perhaps lead to different
    decisions if you look at it.  Lets look at that $1000 bond you
    mentioned.  Since I don't have a specific maturity date for that bond,
    lets pretend for this example that it will mature in exactly 13 years
    from now.  At a purchase price of $350, that bond will yield 8.41%
    interest per year.  Lets tack on a $50 commission which effectively
    raises the purchase price to $400 -- now it only yields 7.30%.  In
    general, bond commissions come in the form of "flat amount + $XX per
    bond (or a percentage of the bond's value)" which means that small
    bond purchases end up with a proportionately large commission due
    to the base "flat amount".  Bottom line -- if you decide to get into
    buying bonds, don't do it in small pieces.  One decent sized purchase
    is much more cost effective than is many small purchases.
    
    							-craig 
139.2Strips are volatileVMSDEV::HALLYBFish have no concept of fire.Tue Mar 31 1992 14:5116
.0>    			... Today we can buy the $1000 bond for $350 and it
.0>    will be worth the $1000 in the year 2005 (almost 8%) and these are
.0>    U.S. Government backed.
    
    Besides commissions as CY noted, you have to ask yourself what $1000
    will be worth in the year 2005.
    
    And try to find out more about that term "U.S. Government backed".  The
    only thing worth buying at ~8% is (stripped) U.S. Treasury notes/bonds.
    Not "Treasury backed GNMA".  Not "Treasury backed RTC".  ONLY direct
    obligations of the U.S. Treasury.
    
    IMO, it would be better to wait a while until rates rise some.  Too
    many people are satisfied with 8% to make it a satisfactory yield.
    
      John