Conference noted::equitation

    The primary equine discussion group on internet is rec.equestrian but
    to read it one has to have access to a "news-server" computer. Since
    the servers are local, I can't help you with the server adress.
    
    There are also equine-related "mailing-lists" of various flavors. I'll
    see if I can come up with some mailing-list names and the e-mail
    addresses for subscriptions. 

    Also, if you subscribe to Prodigy or Compuserve, you get access to
    their forums - both have active 'Horse' notesfiles.  I'm pretty sure
    both have Internet access (Prodigy just announced this has been
    enhanced) - not sure if they give you access to a news reader (Usenet). 
                                                      
    JB

	I just checked "The Internet Yellow Pages" and found nothing
	but the "rec.equestrian" news group already mentioned.

	My favorite WWW index "The WebCrawler"

http://www.biotech.washington.edu/WebCrawler/WebQuery.html

	found some references to the word "horses":

Horse Racing Information:
	http://www.inslab.uky.edu/~stevem/horses/racing.html

Model Horses (Bryer, etc):
	http://fohnix.metronet.com/HomePages/kira/model-horse

    There is a Listserver group on the Internet called Equine-L.
    
    To subscribe, send a e-mail message to:
    
    		LISTSERV@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
    
    Leave the subject line blank and the body of your email message should
    read:
    
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    One you have subscribed, to post a message to the list, use the email
    address of:
    
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    Janet
    
    
    
    

    From COMPUSERVE: GO INTERNET.
    A news reader is there.  I only just started playing
    with WINCIM so don't remember exactly.


    From VMS workstations:

    I have been playing with the XRN news reader.
    See VMS notes file UFP::XRN, kit in note 66.L

    Simple comstream passing it a server node.

    The server nodes are in the vms notes file UPSAR::NEWS-BACKBONE.
    Note 95.L will list the servers available.  nntpd @ LGK is
    external to DEC so you can access more newsgroups (and I assume
    other stuff) but is slower to me.

    This server writes to 2 files in your SYS$LOGIN directory.  NEWS.RC
    and OLDNEWS.RC.  I find it's faster to run the server and then go back
    and search NEWS.RC by key-word.  You might be able to do some searching
    with the newsreader but I haven't found it yet.

    Someone told be there is a "better" reader than XRN and I think there
    are also terminal readers but I have not had the time to check.

    The source code is available (see notes files above) but I can't
    get it to compile on my ULTRIX workstation.

    Everything you have heard regarding how "tame" our moderated notes
    files are is very true.  I won't start a discussion on the legal
    definition of obscenity but a) many people speak somewhat crudely
    and b) you can tell by the name of the newsgroup that you should
    know what your getting into !

    Bill

    We've been having some problems due to the major power outage yesterday
    so I haven't been able to make contact with some of the folks. So,
    I don't know (yet) whether there are any harness racing mailing lists.
    However, I did get some info...
    
    I'm pretty sure the commercial services can get access to
    rec.equestrian. Many of the folks who particpate subscribe through 
    America On Line. I'm pretty sure some are Prodigy customers too. I 
    imagine that AOL's competitors have to offer access or lose business.
    
    There is one other horse group among the internet newsgroups:
    alt.sport.horse-racing
    
    Unfortunately, my news server doesn't get that one. A friend who gets it
    says it's not very good though. So, maybe I'm not missing much. ;-)
    
    Equine-L ! That's the general e-mail service I was thinking of. Since
    instructions are given in an earlier note, I won't repeat them here.
    
    There's also a TB racing service(through the same guy mentioned in .3's
    www info for horse racing.) It's called the "Derby" Mailing list. To
    subscribe, send e-mail to the following address:

  	derby-request@inslab.uky.edu

The body of the e-mail should ask to subscribe to Derby and include your
name and return e-mail address.  The guy who moderates and operates Derby 
    will process your request.
    

If it makes a difference to you, you can request to receive postings to
Derby in reflected mode or digest mode.  Reflected means that a copy of
each posting will be sent to you as Derby receives it.  Digest means that
you will get a copy of all the day's postings in one giant e-mail.  If you
don't indicate a choice in your subscription request, you'll get reflected
by default.  I am told that reflected mode results in 20 or so e-mails
each day on average.  The volume goes up considerably during the build up
to the Triple Crown and Breeders' Cup races.  
    
    

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    Unfortunately, the only harness racing I've heard about on internet
    is in the alt.sport.horse-racing newsgroup. I say unfortunately because
    it's not widely distributed so even if you have access to a news
    server, you may not get alt.sport.horse-racing.

In browsing the net, I found the web page at:

http://info.cosy.sbg.ac.at/aics/ava/lip.html

with videos of the Lipizzaners. I don't know how to actually get the
videos to run yet.

Vicky

    I just found a harness racing mailing list.  If you're interested
    in getting this, send mail to harness-racing@uiuc.edu.  I'm not
    sure about the traffic, equine-l at 200+ messages per day was too
    much for me.  I don't think this one is that busy.
    
    Linda

    
    Advertise and shop with Shecora Star WAy on the Internet!
    
    Shecora Star Way is a full source for all the horse info you may need.
    
    you can shop for goods and services in the various regions, there are
    classified ads, a book store and pet products and services.
    
    You can even advertise and have your own home page - and there is
    online ordering processing.
    
    	Address: http:://www.sai.com
    
    
    Louisa

... only 1 colon.

    Press release from Churchill Downs:
    
    "Churchill Downs is working with a local company called Internet
    Sports, Inc. to create a WWW site.  The home page is scheduled to 
    go online by Friday, April 7.  I will provide the URL code once it 
    is established.
    
    You will be able to find the following and much more:
    -       Daily barn notes, press releases and workout tabs
    -       Future Book Odds
    -       Updated list of contenders with bios of breeder, owner,
    		trainer, and jockey
    -       Available simulcast outlets taking Churchill's  signal
    -       Road to the Triple Crown races and results, press releases,
    		etc.
    -       Derby Week Activities
    -       Inaugural Horse Sale
    -       Merchandise Catalogue
    -       Race Photos
    -       Churchill Downs Spring Meet Information
    -       Twin Spires Centennial Celebration
    -       Derby History Section
    -       Kentucky Travel information
    -       On-Line Conferences
    
    I would like to hear any comments or suggesstions you may have
    regarding this site.  There is still time to incorporate some of 
    your ideas and changes.  Please e-mail me at tba@iglou.com.  I 
    can also be reached at (800)28-Derby, ext. 460.
    
    Thank you,
    Tricia Amburgey
    Communication Systems Manager
    Churchill Downs Incorporated

Thanks John,

I've been checking the page faithfully since I found it. Looking forward
to April 7.

Vicky

A little searching brought these pointers:

1994 Breeder's Cup:

	http://www.iglou.com/breeders_cup.html
	http://agricomm.com/breeders_cup.html	(same as above)

Churchill Downs:

	http://www.iglou.com/breeders/churchill/churchill_downs.html	

1995 Kentucky Derby (#121, May 6, 1995):

	http://www.iglou.com/derby.html	

	(Currently just a place-holder)

    The Kentucky Derby/Churchill Downs WWW  site is now available
    
    The correct URL is http://www.win.net/derby
    
    They were about a week late getting it available but it looks pretty
    good.

I was surfing the net a came across Aberdeen University Riding Club
WWW site and on one of its pages it has pointers to lots of other
WWW sites

Check out 

	http://www.abdn.ac.uk/~src011/horse.hotlist.html

Michelle

    What about a list of horse related WWW pages?
    I did DIR/TITLE=WWW, but there doesn't seem to be a list by now.
    
    Here are two WWW addresses dedicated to Icelandic Horses:
    
    Icelandic Horse Network
    URL: http://www.centrum.is/diddi/
    
    Icelandic Horses Online!
    URL: http://www.muc.de/~mgrabe/io/
    

    
    Here are some more WWW sites I've encountered recently. Many of them
    have links to other sites so check them out even if the general topic
    I attribute to them doesn't grab you:
    
    Premier Horse Network and Equivid video sales/rental(lots of links):
http://WWW.CyberGate.COM/horsenet/ 
    
    
    For horse products
http://horses.product.com/
    
    For "Netvet" horsey stuff
http://netvet.wustl.edu/horses.html 	
    
    For info on books & book sellers
http://horses.product.com:70/1s/books/
    
    For links to all sorts of equine/equestrian info:
http://www.abdn.ac.uk/~u02pda/infoboot.html
    
    For American Morgan Horse Association info (Note this page is
    		authorized by AMHA but they have neither created it nor
    		seen it as yet. AMHA doesn't have WWW capability)
http://www.csn.org/~weibel/AMHA/AMHA.html
    
    For info on endurance riding and lots of links to other stuff:
http://www.fsr.com/~step/accounts/endurance/endurance.html 
    
    For horse racing, try these:
http://www.inslab.uky.edu/~stevem/horses/racing.html	racing
http://www.swcp.com/~hyperion/horse.html  Hyperion Thoroughbred Racing/Breeding 
http://www.win.net/derby 	Churchill WWW site
http://ns1.win.net/derby/belmont.htm	
http://www.ws.pipex.com/tis/racing/race.htm   Euopean Racing 
    
    
    These are a couple horse folks home pages that have some good info and
    links:
    
http://www.pathology.washington.edu/Horse/Carroll_horse.html
http://crsc1.math.ncsu.edu/~becker/equestrian.html
    

    I just heard this weekend that NEDA will have a page on the WWW.

Two more pages from the "Chronicle of the Horse"


http://www.abdn.ac.uk/~u02pda/infoboot.html

	"World Equine Resource List" from Univ of Aberdeen


http://crsc1.math.ncsu.edu/~becker/equestrian.html

	"Internet Equestrian Pages"


If you spotted these in the "Chronicle" these are correct - the Chronicle 
had a few typo.

>>    I just heard this weekend that NEDA will have a page on the WWW.

    The most recent Tip asks readers if they have e-mail and/or
    Internet access.

    I thought is said that there is no plan to implement anything
    yet.

    Bill

    They found a service that gave free pages to non-profit organizations,
    so they went ahead and took it.  They'll be getting the info out in the
    next few months, I guess.
    
    (As it was free, it was a price they couldn't resist!)

    I spoke to the person setting up this homepage (I was looking into it
    for the edu. committee and heard she had started on it already).  
    There was a demo of the WWW and the USDF homepage to the NEDA board
    last week.  I haven't heard the outcome of this yet.  Sticky points
    will be the logo (registration).
    
    Some ideas we've discussed: providing the TIP on-line as well as
    other services.
    
    -JB

Hello,

	I am usually a read-only of this conference, due to the job )-:
	I just got my issue of "Horse and Rider" (Aug-95) and they had
	a "Internet Yellow Pages" of equine related topics.

	I figured this information would be good to have in one place, so
	here it goes, BEWARE:  IT IS LONG!!!!

	Name:  Horses! 
	Address:  http://horses.product.com
	What is it:  Advertises hourses, trailers, tack and equipment for 
			sale.

	Name:  Equi-Online Home Pages
	Address:  http://www.netresource.com/eq/
	What is it:   A list of euqine products/services plus general 
			information.  NOTE:  Must listings are from 
			the Pacific Northwest.

	Name:  Remuda Ranch Online
	Address:  http://agricomm.com/agricomm/rr
	What is it:  Horse or stallion services are sold here.  The actual
			Remuda Ranch, located near Louisvill, Kentucky is
			devoted to the breeding of Paints.

	Name:  HorseNet
	Address:  http://www.cybergate.com:80/horsenet/
	What is it:  Features ads from around the world.  Many categories for
			this site went on-line June 10.

	Name:  Riding Clud of the University of Aberdeen, Scottland
	Address:  http://www.abdn.ac.uk/~src011/horse.hotlist.html
	What is it:  Although the activities of these Scottish
			equestrians may not interest you, their Web site
			is fantastically well conneted to many other 
			equine sites around the world.

	Name:  Karen Pautz's Home Page
	Address:  http://www.missouri.edu/~jourkap/usdf/othersites.html
	What is it:  Official information for the United Staes Dressage
			Federation: great resources and well-organized pages.

	Name:  NetVet
	Address:  http://netvet.wustl.edu/horses.html
	What is it:  An extensive resource on equine health matters. The
			site is maintained by veterinarian Ken Boschert
			at the Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri.

	Name:  CATT Equine Page
	Address:  http://www.catt.ncsu.edu/projects/horses/
	What is it:  CATT stands for "committed to implmentation of 
			modern technologies".  The equine page of this
			obscure group begins with the striking graphic of
			an Arabian horse.

	Name:  Endurance Riding
	Address:  Http://www.fsr.com/national/endurance 
	What is it:  Great resource, containing graphics in "Art Gallery";
			list of books/videos; entire ENDURANCE RIDERS'
			HANDBOOK and 1994 ride calendars for North American
			Trail Ride Conerence and the American Endurance
			Ride Conference.
	
	Name:  Horse Country
	Address: http://www.pathology.washington.edu/Horse/Carroll_horse.html
	What is it:  Includes fiction, photographs, art.

	Name:  Abmnet Arabian Breeders Network
	Address:  http://foothils.eznet.com:70/11/rec/equine/arabian
	What is it:  A place for Arabian owners, trainers or breeders to
			post/sell information on farms, etc.
	
	Name:  Model Horses
	Address:  http://www.metonet.com/~kira/model-horse/
	What is it:  A good description of the hobby,including a glossary
			of terms, an article on "The Model Horse as Art".

	Name:  1996 Olympic Equestrian Events
	Address: http://www.grady.uga.edu/conyers/conyers.html
	What is it:  Brief description of Conyers, Georgia International
			Horse Park, which is under construction for the 
			'96 Olympics.

	Name:  Colorado Horse Rescue
	Address:  http://www.interealm.com/p/chr
	Wht is it:  Good introduction to a non-profit organization dedicated
			to finding homes for abandoned or unwanted horses.
	
	Name:  International Museum of The Horse
	Address: http://www.horseworld.com/imhmain.html
	What is it:  Definitive site for equestrain history, containing 300
			pages of text and graphics, with impressive plans
			for more.

	Name:  Large Animal Medicine Home Page
	Address:  http://128.192.20.223/lam.html
	What is it:  Info on departmental courses, class notes, faculty,
			residencies, graduate programs, and clinical data
			from the University of Georgia College of 
			Veterinary Medicine.

    Good news for racing fans who browse the web:
    
    The Blood-Horse's WWW site is up and running. It is very extensive,
    with many connectible links to the many topics featured in the
    magazine each week. There is also a daily edition with updates, an
    electronic forum, links to racing literature, a virtual farm tour, etc.
    It is quite impressive:
    
    http://www.bloodhorse.com
    
    It seems everybody's jumping on the bandwagon. Thoroughbred Times and
    Equine-on line also have WWW sites:
    
    http://www.equineonline.com
    http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com
    
    And Cindy Pierson maintains a comprehensive list of racing related 
    web sites at:
    
    http://www.wsnet.com/~sysclp/racing.html
    
    She asks that anyone using the site inform her of any sites she doesn't
    list so she can add them.

While surfing the other day, found the following

	http://www.freerein.com/haynet/

Haynet is a good home page with pointers to many, many other pages and 
is well broken out by interest areas (first place I found a reference to
a home page for AHSA - according to AHSA this spring some time).

One advertisement in a equestrian magazine included a Web location:

	http://www.gprix.com/

They didn't have what I was looking for (inexpensive rubber/plastic
English riding boots) but had plenty of other horse items for sale.

    
    	I don't know if this has been mentioned already:
    
    	http://www.aqha.com

    In .9, Vicky Janicki reported finding an Austrian website with Spanish
    Riding School/Lipizzan videos. The URL has been changed. It is now:
    
    http://austria-info.at/ava/lip.html
    
    They've also added another page with videos at the Austrian stud farm
    in Piber. You can access it through the link on the above page or 
    directly through the URL:
    
    http://austria-info.at/ava/piber.html
    
    For our European friends and/or North Americans travelling in Europe,
    there is also a site with info about riding in Austria. The bad
    news(for most Americans, at least), is that the text for that site is 
    in German. The good news is that they tell you about resorts which
    cater to riders and offer a mixture of lessons and open country riding.
    There's also an order form to get a catalog of all the resorts, etc.
    This can be accessed through the Piber stud farm site or directly
    through the URL:
    
    http://austria-info.at/reiten/dindex.html