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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

1162.0. "Relocation $ for horses" by WEDOIT::NANCY () Wed Jan 24 1990 14:34

    I would like to accept a job offer I have in another state...and
    need to insure that Digital will pickup the cost to transport the
    horses to their new location. 
    
    What do I have to do to make arrangements? 
                                             
    
    			Thanks, Nancy
    	
                                     
    P.S. Are there any other benefits I might be able to get the hiring
    cost center to pay for ... like a month or more of board while I
    settle in to the new location? Or what about paying for someone
    to look after the horses while I do house-hunting? Currently the
    horses are home...and we've been looking and there doesn't seem
    to be many places available to purchase that are suitable for horse
    dwelling in Mid-winter. This time of year makes it difficult and
    any help we can get will help...please make suggestions.
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1162.1P&P Says...........STAFF::GREENWOODWed Jan 24 1990 15:338
    P&P SECTION 5.05, PAGE 5 gives you the party line. However, I have
    heard of people negotiating transport of Horses a long distance.
    
    It all depends on your value to the incoming CC and your strength
    at the negotiating table.
    
    Good luck.  Let us know how you make out. We all may want to follow
    any presedent that you might set........
1162.2It can be done.SMAUG::GUNNMAILbus ConductorWed Jan 24 1990 17:0910
    As stated in -.1 the "Orangebook" - Personnel Policies and Procedures
    Manual accessible through VTX (at the $ prompt type VTX ORANGEBOOK) -
    states the policy explicitly that the transport of large animals is not
    covered under corporate relocations. Now go and read the section about
    exceptions to the policy. Depending on the costs involved in granting
    an exception various levels of management approval are required. Your
    hiring cost center manager must be willing to go and get this approval.
    
    When the company moved me last, nearly ten years ago now, I had no
    problem getting the exception to move my horse as well.
1162.3a relocation experience...SMURF::SCHANKThu Jan 25 1990 16:0828
    Hello.  I was relocated from Reno, NV to Nashua, NH.  DEC paid to move my 
    horse.  I think the name of the horse mover was Nation Wide out of 
    Colorado Springs.  I recommend them to anyone who MUST use a mover.  
    The trip took them 10 days with a two day lay over in Colorado.  My 
    horse came down with shipping fever (even though he had the shot for it)
    at the end of the journey.  The driver of the truck was paying enough 
    attention to the horses condition to realize that the horse couldn't 
    continue.  After calling me and getting my consent the driver took my 
    horse to Tufts where he was diagnosed as having pneumonia.  The vet 
    informed me that my horse could have died (at at that time still could).  
    Thanks to the attention of the driver and 10 days at Tufts and 6+ months 
    of "getting better" my horse is now back in training (eventing).
    
    My recommendation is:  if you can move the horse your self, do it.
    The problem with horse shippers is that they have a truck load of
    horses (in my case 6) all going to different places.  My horse was
    the first picked up and the last dropped off.  He was on the road
    for 2 days longer than he needed to be.  The driver informed me that
    they prefer to leave the horses in the trucks and not to unload/load
    them for exercise.  He claims that most injuries occure durring loading
    (i'm sure this is true).  This means that for about 6 days my horse
    was standing with little or no exercise.
    
    If I had it to do over again, I would take two weeks and move the
    horse my self.  Find camp grounds and stables on the way and make
    it a "fun" vacation. 
    
    
1162.4Get it in writingDECWET::DADDAMIOTesting proves testing worksMon Jan 29 1990 22:0112
    Re: .0
    
    I would talk it over with the personnel people in your new location. 
    DEC did not pay for moving my horses from NH to Seattle, so check it
    out with personnel and make sure you get it in writing that they will
    allow an exception for transporting your horse.
    
    We used Michael Bateman from VT to transport our horses and were very
    impressed with him (he's affilliated with Blue Chip).  Our horses made
    the trip in 4 days with no problems at all.
    
    						Jan
1162.5exWEDOIT::NANCYWed Jan 31 1990 01:0819
	From what I understand so far..........................Digitals
    relocation policies are only guidelines...there are exceptions
    made all the time and transporting animals is one of them. A
    "Relocation Exception form" must be signed and approved for the
    cost of transporting the animals by the hiring cost center" manager
    and personnel" (both must have relocation authorization or the
    exception will not be granted by corporate.) The Employee must also
    sign this form and is to my knowledge always the first one to do
    so. This form can be from any relocation department. So far the
    hiring management has verbally agreed to transport my horses, to
    enable me to accept the job offer. A copy of the "Relocation 
    Exception" form filled out and signed by people with relocation
    authorization...cc manager & personnel..is what you want to see
    in writing.
    	I cannot claim to be setting a precedence because others have
    already..but I will keep you posted on what happens.
    
    			Nancy
    
1162.6To Ship Your Friends!WOODRO::ZAHNDThu Feb 01 1990 13:4311
    A REPUTABLE SHIPPER!
    
    Nancy, I do know that J.R. Hudson, Braintree, Ma. does ship horses
    from coast to coast. He shipped my horses from here to there and
    has been great. He engages many knowledgeable people who feed, water
    excercise the horses all the time. He has the newest trucks for
    long distances. He gives the horses enough room to stand. He is
    in my view one of the best shipper, and has the best drivers.
    
    Ruth
    
1162.7exWEDOIT::HOWANIECThu Mar 08 1990 19:427
    
    Thank you for the info on transporting my friends. I would like
    to find someone with a good rep...I'll be transporting a newborn
    foal and mom along with the others. 
    
    			Thanks , Nancy