Conference noted::equitation

    Best way, but expensive, is in a large van with the usual three-horse
    area converted to a single stall for the mare and foal.  I've done
    this, and it cost over $100 to move the two a distance of 20 miles.
    
    I've also used a two-horse trailer with the center partition completely
    removed.  Be sure you use a trailer with a solid rear door/ramp.  Or
    at least one that is high -- babies have been known to try to jump out!
    
    As for wrapping, this could be a problem if the little guy isn't used
    to having wraps on his legs.  Some of them can get really upset with
    them.  Put *lots* of shavings in the trailer - not straw, since this is
    quite slippery.  Unless you're going a very long distance, you can get
    by without the wraps if you're very careful about making sure there's
    nothing in the trailer that he can hurt himself on.
    
    Good luck!
    
    -ellie

    
    
    	My trailer has rubber mats on the bottom.. I was
    	wondering about.. shavings or straw..?
    
    	what was the best.. 
    
    	She is about 12 hands.. and her mother will be with
    	her.. .
    	
    
    	I think I will wrap her mother but.. need to know
    	what else,, should I blanket her mother.. What kind
    	of blanket.?
    
    	

    
    I have moved many mares and foals.  I don't try to blanket or wrap
    either the mare or the foal.  I always was concerned about the foal
    getting hung up in something.  
    
    I almost always hauled the baby with the center divider removed and 
    curtains on the back door.  Depending on the mare, I either tied her
    head or didn't (depending on what she preferred).  Sometimes with a 
    nervous mare, if you tie her too closely she might panic if she can't
    move her head to see her baby.  Also, a tie rope is another thing that
    a baby can potentially get hung up on.

    re .4
    
    Yeah, I agree about the tie rope.  Use it only if really necessary for
    the mare.  It's just another thing that the foal can get into trouble
    with.
    
    re .3 (?)
    
    I'd definitely go with shavings instead of straw.  The foals seem to
    have a hard time keeping their footing on the slippery straw.

    Our mare and foal came in from Ohio in a four horse...carrying two and
    a pint size horse.  It was made into two big box stalls.  Mom was tied
    in the corner and baby was free.  The baby slept most of the way up
    curled up on the opposite side of Mom.  They came directly through...
    about 15 hours I think (it was awhile ago).  Both were fine when they 
    arrived...tired but in good shape.
    Neither was wrapped or blanketed as no one wanted the foal to hang
    himself up.  We did tie her as that was how she rode best.
    
    GOOD LUCK...it really isn't as much of a problem for the mare and foal
    as it is for the folks awaiting their arrival.
    
    One other thing...if you use a two horse trailer be sure the front is
    blocked off as well as the back upper doors.  Foals have been known to
    get into mangers before.
    
    Kathie
    

    donna, like i suggested the other day, use deep shavings (about mid
    cannon bone on the mare) at so deep they lose the balance on too much
    shavings, yo can fill it up deep and once you get the mare in , you can
    just kick em out. I would take out the divider, I would wrap the mares
    legs and tail and I wouldnt put on a blanket (if the mare doesnt usuall
    wear on with the colt I would jsut leave it.)
    Sounds like thae mare and the colt havent been handled that much or
    have that musch training... so i wouldnt try and wrap the baby, (maybe
    just the front legs, just if you use just a bandage careful not to cord
    the leg) i think thats all i would do.
    oh yea i would tie the mare, and leave the baby alone... 
    
    I would also get some PROMIASINE (SP?) its a tranq. 
    i think it would do them both some good. ask the vet about the baby
    before admin to him/her..
    
    good luck
    
    		wendy o'

	I'd second (or third?) the suggestion to leave both the mare and foal
	unwrapped and unblanketed... I trailered my mare and filly about 100
	miles (which was the filly's first time ever in a trailer) with no
	problem at all... At the time, I had a trailer with a manger and a 1/2
	center partition... I removed the partition. but did tie the mare (who
	was known for getting into trouble otherwise...) They were fine and
	the filly loaded and unloaded just like a pro from then on in..

	It's a good idea to make sure that the trailer is well-ventiliated
	even with the doors closed... They are also apt to get upset if the
	climate gets too warm...

	Good luck!

    Trailered our mare and her 2-month colt, wrapped the mares legs as
    usual. No divider. made a wooden grate to tie across the rear of the
    trailer above the doors, so he couldn't jump out.  A foal can jump a
    four-foot stall door from a standing start, as I have personally
    witnessed.  He would not get on the trailer, even after his mother was
    loaded, until I turned him around and backed him up the ramp.  then he
    calmed down when he was next to mom.  No trouble at all on the ride.

    
    
    	From personal experience - I know a filly who jumped out of
    	a moving trailer. This was not discovered until the driver
    	reached the barn (filly was alone in trailer). She was not hurt,
    	someone had found her, put her in a nearby field with horses,
    	assuming she had escaped. (whew!)
    
    	Sherry
    

    
    
    	Well.. the trip went great... The mother loaded wonderful
    	for only being on the trailer twice in her life time.
    
    	The baby had to be forced on but, she is a light weight at
    	65 pds.. 
    
    	Once in the mother was calm and the baby calmed down.
    
    	I did wrap the mothers legs and used a head bumper and tied her
    	and removed the center partition and filled the back up 
    	with shavings.
    
    	We checked them every hour and they were just eating and
    	were very quite.  
    
    	Got home around 8:30 (dark) put them right in the stall and
    	the baby went right to sleep.  
    
    	Thanks for all the input.. 
    
    
    	Thanks for the input.. 

    Hi.  It's me again.
    
    Now that we know only two of the mares are in foal we have decided to
    move in August.  This means taking the 3 mares to Bosie Idaho.  I know
    how to trailer them and all that.  I just have one questiong about them
    climatizing.  
    
    I don't think it will make much of a difference to the mares unless we
    moved them in the middle of winter or something like that.  I would
    just like some opinions on this.  Is there a `perfect' time of year to
    move a horse from California to Idaho?
    
    Virginia

    Never having lived in Idaho, I can't answer your question directly but
    here's some info on the climate that may help you decide. It's gonna be
    a LOT different than your So California desert! The info basically came 
    from the National Climatic Data Center (National Oceanic and
    Atmospheric Administration). They publish all sorts of info that you can 
    order if you need more than I've got. There phone # is (704)259-0682
    
    Month	Avg High	Avg Low
    Jan		36.5		21.4
    Feb		43.8		27.2
    Mar		51.6		30.5
    Apr		61.4		36.5
    May		70.6		44.1
    Jun		78.3		51.2
    Jul		90.5		58.5	Avg Temp at 5 PM is 62 w/low humidity
    Aug		87.6		56.7
    Sep		77.6		48.5
    Oct		64.7		39.4
    Nov		48.9		30.7
    Dec		39.1		25.0
    
    Summer heat waves are generally short but it hits 100+ degrees every
    year. There are 43 days each summer which are 90 or hotter. The average
    noon time humidity is about 57% which is relatively low. Apparently, it
    cools off quickly which would be good for after work rides and
    sleeping.
    
    They get 91 days of rain/snow which drop an average of 12" of rain and 
    21" of snow. There are usually 2 days a year that get down to zero
    Fahrenheit and 124 daysa year when it is below freezing at night. 
    From Nov to Mar, the average low is below freezing. 
    
    Clear days 124; Partly Cloudy 90; Cloudy 151

    That is wonderful!  Thank you so much.  Where the horses are now isn't
    really the desert, it's concidered semi-arid I guess.  There are days
    that are 100+ where they are now but the humidity is rather low.  I
    think August will be a good time.  
    
    Thank you again.
    
    Virginia