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| 2278.1 | In a similar situation | COUNT0::BELLCHAMBERS | | Thu Jul 07 1994 18:19 | 13 |
| Hi,
Having 3 kids, 2 dogs and enough baggage to cart around an estate has
been essential. I have had a Citroen BX 19 TRS and now a Puegeot 405
GRD estate. I would recommend the Citroen BX. The car is comfortable.
Has plenty of space and is easy to drive. I saw a 4 year old one for
sale at the Clover Leaf Garage in Basingstoke for 8000.
I hope that is of some help.
Regards
Paul
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| 2278.2 | | BAHTAT::CARTER_A | Rozan Kobar! | Thu Jul 07 1994 18:27 | 13 |
| Some friends of mine have recently upgraded from a Fiesta due to a
'recent addition' to the family.
They went for a new Astra Estate because: it fits on their drive, its
got 4 doors for easy access to child seat, the boot will take a
folded pram end on (which apparently an Escort estate wouldn't) which
saves a lot of space for those other numerous items you mentioned.
When I was that age we had a Mini Van with rear seats, and when Rowan
was that age we had (and still have) the Rover Cabrio (it will take
everything you mention, and still be drivable - but its best to load up
when its not raining). My wife says I have to get a 4-door next time
tho' :-(
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| 2278.3 | | PEKING::SMITHR1 | Cracking toast, Gromit! | Thu Jul 07 1994 19:01 | 13 |
| 2278.4 | Astra Estate | FAILTE::THOMSONS | Stuart Thomson | Fri Jul 08 1994 13:46 | 16 |
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I have had an Astra GLS TD Estate for 6 months now its got all the safety
features Air Bag , ABS , Side impact bars more room for passengers than the
Cavalier that I had only a couple of minor problems on delivery but I like
it and the kids love it .
FWIW
Dicksons in Dunblane had a Diamond Black GLS Estate 1.6i L reg with low milage
a few weeks ago for under your 10K max .
Stuart
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| 2278.5 | Peugot 405 Estate | PIECES::ALCOR::PCDEFAULT | Place holder for NOTES | Fri Jul 08 1994 13:59 | 11 |
| 2278.6 | passengers' opinions | PEKING::SMITHR1 | Cracking toast, Gromit! | Fri Jul 08 1994 14:12 | 10 |
| My daughter (she's 4) told me recently that our next car had to be an
estate, so that we could have a dog in the back, and it could pop its
head over into the back seat so she could pat it....
My wife is determined to have no pets....
I'll let them fight it out, then just buy what I'm told to buy.
Richard
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| 2278.7 | ;^) ;^) ;^) Re.4 | CMOTEC::POWELL | Nostalgia isn't what it used to be, is it? | Fri Jul 08 1994 16:41 | 11 |
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FWIW
vvvvvvvvvvvvv
Dicksons in Dunblane had a Diamond Black GLS Estate 1.6i L reg with low milage
a few weeks ago for under your 10K max .
Shouldn't that be "Coal Black?" Diamonds are transparent aren't they?
Malcolm.
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| 2278.8 | Bucky Balls (C58) | PEKING::SMITHR1 | Cracking toast, Gromit! | Fri Jul 08 1994 17:46 | 6 |
| It's adspeak, Malcolm. I remember Double Diamond, it was beer, it was
all one lump, and it wasn't at all clear. Besides, diamonds are just
compressed coal....
Richard
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| 2278.9 | Diamond Black | FAILTE::THOMSONS | Stuart Thomson | Fri Jul 08 1994 18:11 | 13 |
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Diamond Black is wot it says in the GM colour brochure and Diamond Black is what
is stamped on the plate in the engine compartment.
Park it next to a black car and it looks grey , park next to a grey car and it
looks black.
St
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| 2278.10 | | ESBS01::WATSON | Entropy: chaos at it's best | Fri Jul 08 1994 18:12 | 3 |
| What colour is it when parked between a black and a gray car?
Rik
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| 2278.11 | light relief | BRUMMY::MARTIN::BELL | Martin Bell, Central PSC, Birmingham UK | Fri Jul 08 1994 18:18 | 11 |
| Re: .7 - Shouldn't that be "Coal Black?" Diamonds are transparent aren't they?
It is nothing to do with the colour, "Diamond Black" contains
real diamonds, which is why you pay more than solid colours.
Re: .10 - What colour is it when parked between a black and a gray car?
Striped!!!
mb
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| 2278.12 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | A-mazed on the info Highway! | Fri Jul 08 1994 18:29 | 18 |
| I have a Peugeot 405 GLDT Estate, and I'm very happy with it. It's
reasonably swift and handles well. I drive it hard, often cruising for
many many miles at 100mph+. After a trip back to Brussels from the UK
(300 miles) and then a further 200+ on the tankfull, when I fill it up,
it's still turning in 39-41 mpg.
With 3 children (and two of those at boarding school), an estate is
essential, and I expect I'll be cashing the 405 in for the larger 806
next summer. This week, however, I've had a 306 SRDT on loan. What a
cracker! It has the 1.9 turbo diesel engine, and really flies. Fuel
economy is better than the 405 estate (hardly surprising), but the
performance is much better. It has a good sized boot, and will
comfortably seat 4 adults. If you don't have to have an estate, and a
hatch will do, look at the 306 TD. Incidentally, I also had a petrol
version for a week, and didn't like it, I suppose I've got used to the
torque and power curve of a diesel!
Cheers, Laurie.
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| 2278.13 | Mondeo gets my vote | KERNEL::MORRIS | Which universe did you dial? | Fri Jul 08 1994 19:50 | 22 |
| Well, that's votes for Astra, BX, Xantia - how about one for the
Mondeo?
I have been driving the Mondeo GLX Estate for six months and am
delighted. No problems, good performance, _loads_ of space.
Before choosing the Mondeo, I tested:
Astra (tinny build and narrow across the cockpit)
BX (lousy headroom in the rear and I sometimes take 4 adults)
Cavalier (no estate!!! and the hatch was not roomy enough)
I need the space for much the same reasons as you - pram (no problem
sliding in a large single buggy or a side-by-side double buggy) - high
chair - crates of nappies and other baby-hardware.
I guess the Mondeo is old enough now that some one year leases might be
coming up soon making the initial depreciation less painful?
Good luck
Jon
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| 2278.14 | scare story | PEKING::SMITHR1 | Cracking toast, Gromit! | Fri Jul 08 1994 21:13 | 9 |
| Word was, a few months ago, that Ford had been playing silly buggers
with the Mondeo - tales of disused airfields covered with bought-back
2nd-hand examples and so forth. Reckoned to end in tears in the
autumn...
Take care...
Richard
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| 2278.15 | **NOT** CIVIC | KAOFS::M_NAKAGAWA | | Sun Jul 10 1994 04:50 | 12 |
| RE: .6
My 7 and 12 years old boys say......
Our next car has to have 4 doors. They are sick and tired of my CIVIC
Si 2 door hatchback. It's too small and not easy to climb into the back
seats, also black colour is not good for such a small car.
A loaded SAAB 9000 turbo 4 door hatchback (not black one) will be OK
they say.........
Mitz
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| 2278.16 | Mondeo | PAKORA::GMCKEE | | Tue Jul 12 1994 02:18 | 15 |
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I test drove a Mondeo 1.8i LX 5 door on Saturday and immediately
ordered one (an ex-lease) from Ford Direct (via Peoples). I liked the car,
it was adequate for my needs, the insurance was not a great deal higher
than my 106 and my wife was comfortable driving it.
re.14
Ermm..what's the problem...??? I take it you mean depreciation will rise
or is there a problem with the cars ??.
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| 2278.17 | Watch depreciation | PEKING::GERRYT | | Tue Jul 12 1994 16:58 | 16 |
| My ha'peth of comment.
A five door hatch or estate would be best for a family.
Depending on how long you want to keep it, check out depreciation costs
etc. If you buy Japanese or German should retain the value better.
Re. Citroen BX and Xantias...the suspension system is superb...but
if it goes wrong can be very expensive to sort out...plus it disables
the car if it's not working correctly..ie you get stranded!
Could do worse than a Montego Diesel estate 7 seater low mileage at the
right price....but likely to depreciate reasonably fast when it's
discontinued soon.
Good Luck!
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| 2278.18 | Or... and I've had 3 without problems | WELSWS::HILLN | It's OK, it'll be dark by nightfall | Tue Jul 12 1994 17:46 | 9 |
| Depending on how close to new it has to be...
Have you considered a R21 Savanna.
There's _loads_ of room in there. It's a 5 seater, or 7 with the
secondary option, and still got luggage space. A roof rack is standard.
I think there's a diesel version and they go like a train without
guzzling fuel.
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| 2278.19 | | LARVAE::DARRALL_D | Dave Darrall, SE PSC, 781-1662 | Wed Jul 13 1994 23:09 | 9 |
| How about the Toyota Carina ? Which? car at the mo
The cavalier is supposed to be the biggest load carrier in its class
A friend works near Cardington in Beds (were Airships come from)
and he said there were a few thousand Ford Mondeos parked there, but
they went a while back.
Dave D.
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| 2278.20 | Sheep with 5 legs? | UTROP1::BOSMAN_P | | Wed Jul 20 1994 11:58 | 25 |
| 2278.21 | | PETRUS::GUEST_N | An innocent passer-by | Wed Jul 20 1994 12:57 | 8 |
| re .20
a 440lb dog, ie 31 stone !!!
What kind of dog is this ?
N.
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| 2278.22 | | WELSWS::HEDLEY | Lager Lout | Wed Jul 20 1994 13:00 | 5 |
| > What kind of dog is this ?
a very greedy one.
Chris.
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| 2278.23 | | WAYOUT::LOAT | Stop throwing those bloody spears! | Fri Jul 22 1994 12:39 | 3 |
| 2278.24 | Getting better.... | UTROP1::BOSMAN_P | | Fri Jul 22 1994 17:08 | 18 |
| "200 kg's of dog" meaning a happy Bullmastiff family and two Saluki's.
Yep, they have healthy appetites but as they are given ample
opportunity to "work" they are all bone-dry. As muscle tissue is
heavier than fat, they are heavier than fatter specimen.
The Saluki's appear to be quite big but, being as fleet as the wind,
weigh near nothing.
The BM's are almost "slim" and only little bigger than a Boxer but still
weigh in at around 100 lbs. As true BM's should, they have ample
Caterpillar-thrust at 35 mph.
No, there's no alarm in the car or the house and my wife feels rather
safe walking them at night...
But enough about this, the conf. was about cars as I remember. The
Lancia Dedra will be availeble in an Estate version too around
september.
The Mondeo was just introduced with a V6...and autotran.
Peter
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| 2278.25 | ....and better | UBOHUB::KING_I | | Mon Jul 25 1994 19:53 | 11 |
| ....wouldn't have any puppies from your Salukis, would you??
Sorry, not cars, I know! But on the subject of the guy speeding in
his BMW, but slower, near to where I live, we have official Road-signs
stating "Racing of horse-drawn vehicles is prohibited" 'cos that's what
the Romanies were doing with their trotters....good money to be made,
they say.
Irene
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