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2000.1 | | PEKING::SMITHRW | Err..... | Wed Jan 20 1993 19:23 | 5 |
| Peugeot did a diesel auto 505, but I don't know if it was available on
the big estates.
Richard
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2000.2 | Not counting HGVs and PSVs | ESBS01::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Wed Jan 20 1993 19:26 | 3 |
| From what I've read in the past, auto-box diesels are *extremely* rare.
J.R.
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2000.3 | Try the standard default diesel | ROCKS::RDAVIES | An expert Amateur | Wed Jan 20 1993 19:30 | 4 |
| Citroen have a BX Auto diesel, but I'm not sure if it's available in an
estate.
Richard
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2000.4 | How about the Citroen XM? | CMBOOT::DELANYS | Your pessimism is my realism | Wed Jan 20 1993 19:36 | 8 |
| Citroen also do an auto option on the XM turbo diesel estate, and you
can't get much bigger than that! I think What Car? tested it a few
months ago, if I remember correctly...
Cheers,
Stephen
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2000.5 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | Free the Morris 8 | Thu Jan 21 1993 11:38 | 5 |
| The Pug 505 estate is no more. The 605 estate is due out "real soon
now", I understand. Whether there was or will be an automatic, I can't
tell you.
Laurie.
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2000.6 | | WIZZER::WEGG | Some hard boiled eggs and some nuts. | Thu Jan 21 1993 12:01 | 10 |
| Just out of interest, why are diesel automatics so rare? I was
considering one a couple of years ago, but about the only one
I found then was the FX4 taxi!.
As earlier replies have said, very few manufacturers allow the
automatic option with a diesel power plant. I guess there must
be a reason.
Ian.
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2000.7 | Thanks sofar. | UTROP1::BOSMAN_P | | Thu Jan 21 1993 12:05 | 27 |
2000.8 | It is very understandeble! | UTROP1::BOSMAN_P | | Thu Jan 21 1993 12:18 | 14 |
| re .6
Reasons:
1. Diesel engines are sometimes larger so the space needed can be a problem.
2. The torque/rev band is specific and the autotrannies available
rarely match up as they were develloped for use on petrol engines.
3. Diesel is more expensive, autotran is too so a diesel/auto is far
more expensive.
4. It's a niche market only.
Conclusion: too much hassle and investment for only a small number sold with
a minimum margin. This is a big risc, small return combination so they
back off.
Peter
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2000.9 | | UPROAR::EVANSG | Gwyn Evans @ IME - Open DECtrade -> DTN 769-8108 | Thu Jan 21 1993 12:24 | 2 |
| Re the base requirements, have you looked at either LandRover or
imported Jeep-type vehicles?
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2000.10 | | UFHIS::GVIPOND | Free Winnie Mandela with every 2 gallons | Thu Jan 21 1993 12:49 | 3 |
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Dont Range Rover and/or Discovery do an italian diesel ?
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2000.11 | | SUBURB::TAYLORG | RIP: Freddie Mercury 24-Nov-1991 | Thu Jan 21 1993 15:13 | 9 |
| If you are looking for a second hand car then Volvo have the 760 GLE TD
wich costs around 14k for a '90 (G).
It has everything as standard and has a 2.4 Litre straight six motor
that churns out 129BHP.
Fuel consumption is around 35MPG+.
Grant
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2000.12 | Diesel Espace ?on Auto? | CHEFS::NEWTONS | | Thu Jan 21 1993 15:37 | 4 |
| I Know that Renault are bringing out the Espace Diesel for the UK
market in Feb. Not sure about auto box tho' - that could be a problem.
I don't know if the diesel Espace (already available in France) is
available over there with auto option.
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2000.13 | Sorry, not even Land Rover | LARVAE::SMART_A | Resists anything except temptation! | Thu Jan 21 1993 16:06 | 10 |
| Re .10
Land Rovers (Defenders), Range Rover and Discovery models are not
available as diesel autos although petrol autos are available.
The manual diesel versions do have quite heavy clutches so that rules
them out.
...and just to put the record straight the Italian VM engine was binned
in favour of the home grown 200Tdi
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2000.14 | Dog Hauler | PEKING::SMITHRW | Err..... | Thu Jan 21 1993 16:17 | 12 |
2000.15 | NoNo's | UTROP1::BOSMAN_P | | Thu Jan 21 1993 16:22 | 24 |
2000.16 | | UPROAR::EVANSG | Gwyn Evans @ IME - Open DECtrade -> DTN 769-8108 | Thu Jan 21 1993 16:25 | 22 |
2000.17 | I can ring. | UTROP1::BOSMAN_P | | Thu Jan 21 1993 16:42 | 11 |
| re .13:
I definitely want the dogs in the same space as us.
re .14:
Please remember that the UK has about 20 times as many cars as us so the
chances are about 5% of those in the UK.
Could you e-mail me the details of the Peugeot? If the guy's still got
it... As I stated I will import it myself if I cannot find one over
here.
Peter
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2000.18 | All I have on this.... | PEKING::SMITHRW | Err..... | Thu Jan 21 1993 18:39 | 11 |
| It was A & J French, Oxford Road, Kidlington, Oxon.
Phone 0865 841184.
I don't know anything about this outfit, just saw the ad...
Good Luck
Richard
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2000.19 | | UFHIS::GVIPOND | Free Winnie Mandela with every 2 gallons | Thu Jan 21 1993 19:32 | 9 |
2000.20 | | SAC::LETCHER_P | Bargain basement Britain | Fri Jan 22 1993 10:58 | 8 |
2000.21 | Don't like the idea of an auto though ... | BRUMMY::MARTIN::BELL | Martin Bell, TCC, Birmingham UK | Fri Jan 22 1993 11:04 | 8 |
| I think that there is an article in February's Car magazine talking
about this one. It is a joint venture between Nissan and Ford, with
the radiator grill being just about the only visible difference between
the models from each manufacturer.
Looks like Ford have been hit badly be the Vauxhall Frontera!
mb
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2000.22 | There's a light shimmering... | UTROP1::BOSMAN_P | | Fri Jan 22 1993 11:32 | 17 |
| re .21 Yes, the joint venture Explorer is a "mini". About the size of
the Chevy S10 and the frontera.
There is, as yet, no talk of a Diesel.
All US manufacturers have Full size truck/4x4 models with a HUGE, say
6 litres, diesel engine and auto. These are however NOT imported into
Europe. Only one, the Chevy pickup is. Not being imported before means
no type approval which means a private person can't afford to bring one
in. I tried this option already.
Am currently chasing the auto-clutch option. Seems there is a gear
lever operated servo clutch available somewhere. If this is a practicle
dirveble option this would make all diesels available to me. The Dodge
Mini Ramvan with the VM diesel would be ideal! The cost of the conversion
will be covered by my insurance so...
Peter
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2000.23 | No go! | UTROP1::BOSMAN_P | | Mon Jan 25 1993 14:18 | 11 |
| Result:
1. Diesel/automatic = too rare/expensive
2. Auto clutch not practical enough
Conclusion:
Choose LPG which makes all Petrol/automatic estates a possibility.
Thanks for all the inputs.
Peter
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