Conference terri::cars_uk

I see from the channel 4 teletext service that the peugeot 205
will be soon available with the turbo charged 1.8 engine
.. if it also has the intercooler that means the engine
will put out (about) 90 BHP.. not bad bad for a car
that size

    re .12;
    
    well, if the 309 hasn't got space for the intercooler, I doubt if the
    205 will have.
    
    Anyway, 70-odd bhp is still respectable, coupled with the strong
    torque.
    
    Peter	(who is not known for being correct all the time....)
    

<<< Note 692.13 by CURRNT::RUSSELL "Middle-aged Mutant Hero Turtle (UK option)" >>>

>    well, if the 309 hasn't got space for the intercooler, I doubt if the
>    205 will have.
    

(possible rathole)..  an intercooler is'nt that big surely ?


(PS: What does an intercooler look like anyway?  .. so I can
find it when I (finally) get my TZD BX TD)

>>(PS: What does an intercooler look like anyway?  .. so I can
>>find it when I (finally) get my TZD BX TD)


like a radiator

An intercooler is an air-air radiator used to cool the air after it leaves the 
turbo and before it enters the inlet manifold. It's usually mounted in front of
the coolant radiator. Look for a large air pipe leaving the centre of the turbo
and disappearing off to the front of the vehicle. A second large air pipe 
returns the cooled compressed air to the inlet manifold. By cooling the air 
after compression, you increase its density, which in turn increases the amount
of charge you can pump into the cylinder, and gives more power.

If your turbo connects directly to the inlet manifold, then you ain't got an
intercooler (unlikely these days)

Dick

    On the BX, I think(!) the intercooler is a big "box" which sits on top
    of the engine, and has air ducted into it direct from the front of the
    car, through(!) the bonnet.
    
    There is then lots of plumbing, which disappears down the side of the
    engine.
    
    The BX is quite wide, and the engine compartment is stuffed pretty full
    with the Turbo; certainly more than e.g. the 16v engine bay.
    
    Of course, I may well be wrong (it wouldn't be the first time today...)
    
    Feel free to come down to SBP and see if you can spot it yourself.
    
    Peter.
    

    Pter's right. The BX intercooler is situated on top of the engine. it
    is a box laying flat, with a radiator like grid in the face of it.
    
    Engine air comes from the filter on the wing, round to the turbo, then
    back up to the side of this box. It exitsd the box at the rear, through
    individual ports to each cylinder.
    
    Cooling air is diverted in front of the radiator up through the
    soundproofing in the bonet and down across the intercooler, exiting
    around the engine.
    
    Richard

    Read reports in a local rag, the 205 shares the 309 installation, i.e.
    non-intercooled. They quoted around 78 BHP, 0-60 12.5 secs.
    
    This now gives them a turbo across the entire range!.
    
    Richard

        <<< Note 692.14 by NEWOA::BAILEY "tied to the wheel of karma" >>>

> find it when I (finally) get my TZD BX TD)



Well 'finally' has come sooner that I thought.. my BX should
arive tomorrow!

    And how does the new Metro Diesel compare in terms of economy and
    performance? I think it uses the Peugeot 1400cc diesel engine, but with
    a different gearbox.
    
    Anyone any figures/reviews of this?
    
    Cheers,  Tim