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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

1036.0. "Rover 100 brake problem" by REPAIR::ALLISON () Thu Apr 19 1990 17:32

                    Rover 100 brake problem
    
    
    The brakes of my 1961 Rover 100 gradually lock on each time the
    brake is applied, until all four wheels are completly locked.
    
    This happens when the engine is both stopped and running.
    
    Has anyone come across this before and could you tell me some probable
    causes.
    
    Thankyou
    
    Frances
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1036.1COMICS::WEGGSome hard boiled eggs & some nutsThu Apr 19 1990 18:5312
       A friend of mine had a problem similar to this with his Rover 90.
       Sometimes the brakes would apply themselves without any pressure
       on the pedal. (It happened once when I was giving him a tow start 
       and nearly pulled the backend off my MGB). 

       I'm pretty sure the problem was with the servo. I'll try and
       remember to ask.

       Ian.
    
    
      P.S. Nice car!
1036.2Sounds familiar..SHAPES::STREATFIELDCVW Beetle.. IOSG::AIR_COOLEDFri Apr 20 1990 20:169
    I had a similar problem with my Beetle front brakes, It turned out thet
    the flexible pipes had corroded inside, and were blocked, I tried
    pumping 65 psi of air down them when they were off the car, with
    nothing coming out. It appeared that the master cylinder was
    sufficiently powerfull enough to push the brake fluid through, but
    not back the same way when the pedal was released. Thus the front
    brakes would stay 40/50% on after they were put on. 
    
    Carl.
1036.3Not quite fixed yetREPAIR::ALLISONTue Apr 24 1990 17:099
     
    We have found an air leak in the servo unit due to an incorrectly
    installed gasket.  The servo unit was reconditioned about four months
    before I bought the car.  However the brakes still lock on, so we
    will be taking the servo apart to see if anything else is wrong.
    
    Thanks for your help
    
    Frances
1036.4Servo wrong way roundCOMICS::TURNERNeil Turner UK PTG 833-3009Tue Apr 24 1990 17:2112
    I assume that the servo was taken off the car when it was
    reconditioned, have the brakes ever worked correctly since it was
    refitted?
    
    I had a similar problem when fitting a servo to a Mini, I ended up
    connecting it up the wrong way round, ie I connected the pipe from the
    brake master cylinder to the output end of the servo. This gave me the
    same sort of problem, (ie press brake pedal..brakes come on...release
    brake pedal...brakes stay on!)
    
    Best of luck
    Neil
1036.5REPAIR::ALLISONTue Apr 24 1990 20:0012
    The previous owner bought a reconditioned servo and connected
    it himself, when we brought the car it had failed the MOT on the
    brakes.  He had connected the servo the wrong way round (checked
    the workshop manual) and we have since corrected it, didn't make
    any difference though.
    
    We bought this Rover for spares for our first one, but it was in
    too good a condition to be sat idle.  (Bar a few dents).
                         
    Frances
    
    
1036.6REPAIR::ALLISONWed Apr 25 1990 12:048
    The master cylinder needed adjusting, which has seemed to have released
    the rear brakes, though they stick slightly.  However the front
    brakes remain locked on.  We will try the hoses as suggested.
    
    Thankyou for the suggestions, but if this doesn't work any more
    ideas?
    
    Frances
1036.7FixedREPAIR::ALLISONMon May 14 1990 11:544
    We have found the problem.  The piston in the servo was stuck solid,
    the brakes seem to be working ok now.  Thankyou for all the help.
    
    Frances
1036.8Latest Metro = Rover 100COMICS::SHELLEYAlways with the -ve wavesWed Jan 04 1995 18:4112
    Not to confuse the old Rover 100 with the latest offering (the restyled
    Metro), I wonder if anyone else has noticed that all the cars in the
    Rover ads on TV have "UVO" on the licence plates.
    
    I just happen to notice this as it is the building code for the CSC
    where I work.
    
    What is the significance of UVO and Rover ?
    
    Check out the latest 'Metro' ad with "111 UVO".
                                                   
    Royston
1036.9Re: 111 UVOCOMICS::WEGGSome hard boiled eggs and some nuts.Wed Jan 04 1995 19:2015
1036.10FORTY2::PALKAWed Jan 04 1995 20:217
    I think it is fairly common to take pictures of a left hand drive car
    and reverse them for marketing material used in a right hand drive
    country. There are occasionally little things that show this was done.
    (exhaust pipe, tie-down bracket, or some other assymetrical feature of
    the body work).
    
    Andrew
1036.11SUBURB::FRENCHSSemper in excernereThu Jan 05 1995 11:384
    What about the name of the car. Would a reversed or mirrored name give
    the game away?
    
    Simon
1036.12COMICS::WEGGSome hard boiled eggs and some nuts.Thu Jan 05 1995 12:309
1036.13BRUMMY::MARTIN::BELLMartin Bell, Central PSC, Birmingham UKThu Jan 05 1995 13:0610
But aren't we one of the few (only?) countries that have front=white,
rear=yellow number plates, so the ads would be no good elsewhere.

mb

p.s.

All this talk about vertically symmetrical letters reminds me of the
old style Toyota MR2 where the TOYOTA logo reflecting in the rear
window (when seen from behind) still reads correctly!
1036.14You now see then all over the place in France VARDAF::CHURCHDave Church@VBE (DTN 828-6125)Thu Jan 05 1995 14:3217
    RE: .13
    
>> But aren't we one of the few (only?) countries that have front=white,
>> rear=yellow number plates, so the ads would be no good elsewhere.
    
    No it's becoming popular over here in France - pretty much all the new
    cars are having them fitted. You can still ask for the old french
    (silver letters on black) style but it appears that by default you get
    the new ones.
    
    I can't remember what I had in Germany - I think it wasn't the
    white/yellow type because when buying a new car I was asked what I
    wanted and they said that the white/yellow type meant that the police
    could see your number easier - I said no way I wanted this style then
    :-)
    
    Dave
1036.15FORTY2::PALKAThu Jan 05 1995 15:419
    May be they keep the same photo setup, and just swap the plates to take
    a new picture for each different kind of plate. It still reduces the
    cost of taking the pictures.
    
    It is not only the yellow/white plate which vary from country to
    country. A valid french plate would immediately stand out as wrong in
    the UK as the number of letters and digits is different.
    
    Andrew