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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

1142.0. "Sunbeam Alpine" by MACNAS::BMULQUEEN () Mon Jul 09 1990 14:59

    As if the 205 GTi and the 105E Anglia weren't enough, I'm seriously
    considering a mk2 Sunbeam Alpine. I must admit I don't know a lot
    about the car but I'm looking for an alternative to the MGBs,
    Spitfires, and Midgets which - lets face it - are fairly common.
    
    Being involved in the old car scene in Ireland I've travelled to
    a lot of the vintage rallies around the country and haven't seen
    an Alpine. However I came across one in need of restoration at the
    weekend and could easily be tempted.
    
    I understand the early cars had a different engine to the 1725cc
    standard Hillman/Sunbeam block. Any specs?
    
    Basically I'd like to know more about the cars and it seems the
    usual magazines don't give them much coverage.
    
    Anyone know more about them than I do???
    
    Billy
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1142.1So you want an AlpineFILTON::CHAMBERSMon Jul 09 1990 17:2423
1142.2CHEFS::CLEMENTSDPublic Sector and TelecommsTue Jul 10 1990 14:235
    "Your Classic" magazine has a special article on the Rapier this
    month (history, what to watch for, mechanicals, etc). Mail me with 
    your address and I'll P/c it for you.
         
    Dick.
1142.3MACNAS::BMULQUEENTue Jul 10 1990 17:138
    Thanks Dick, I'd appreciate it. "Billy Mulqueen @GAO (i.e. Galway)"
    will get to me.
    
    Does that mean that the Rapier and Sunbeam share the same mechanicals?
    Also, which Rapier are we talking about - the '70s or the 50s/60s
    version?
    
    Billy
1142.4Popular ClassicsSUBURB::BOXALLGGraham Boxall@REOTue Jul 10 1990 19:2013
    There is also an article in this months 'POPULAR CLASSICS' regarding
    buying and owning a Sunbeam Alpine. I've always wanted one, although
    at only 18 years old, I can't quite afford one yet. I would love
    the TIGER version!!!
    
    
    
    		Regards,
    
    
    		Graham
    
1142.5Popular ClassicsMACNAS::BMULQUEENTue Jul 10 1990 19:507
    As "Popular Classics" isn't available in any of the Galway newsagents,
    would anyone mind photocopying same and sending it on to me via
    interoffice mail.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Billy
1142.6Alpine experiencesCSSE::WAITETue Jul 10 1990 21:1131
I worked, briefly, for a US dealer who sold Sunbeams/Hillmans etc. in
the 1960's.

We sold a fair number of Alpines and I believe the earlier desciption
of their machanicals to be accurate. (NOT from the 1950 version Sunbeams
but the later ones).

The engines were very strong as I remember, much quieter amd generally
a more modern design than BMC lumps.

A customer had us prepare a Harrington LeMans version for Sebring. (forget
the year but I think it was 1960). Two Weber carbs were fitted as well as
some other tuning bits. A whole crowd of us towed the car to Florida. I
was the chief gas_tank_filler_up_person during the race. Since the Webers
drank lots of fuel AND an over zealous pit steward broke the filler cap
lid, the car required fuel about every 15 laps or so. Needless to say I
got a workout and didn't get to see much of the race. 

In the pit next to us was a regular Alpine prepared and entered by the
old Sports Car Graphic/Hollywood Sports Car folks. Doane Spencer was the
head machanic (still active in vintage circles in Cal.) and the #1 driver
was Jerry Titus (went on to bigger/faster cars, maybe even F1 and was
killed). Their car was much faster than ours due to dyno tested engine
with 'secret' mods. However they did break a rear axel and lost a good
hour changin it. They still managed to beat us. A Porsche 904 (?) was
first in the class, the regular Alpine was second and we were third.

The important thing was that the car finished the full 12 hours, never
skipped a beat and aside from the fuel situation and a faulty overdrive
switch (fixed in the pits), everything went fine. Needless to say it was
a great experience for me.
1142.7PhotocopySUBURB::BOXALLGGraham Boxall@REOWed Jul 11 1990 13:3511
    RE.5
    
    I'll photocopy the article in "Popular Classics" for you and send
    it through internal mail.
    
    
    
    		Regards 
    
    
    		Graham
1142.8Go raibh maith agaibh.MACNAS::BMULQUEENTue Jul 17 1990 20:346
    Dick/Graham,
    
    I received both your articles through interoffice mail today. Thanks
    both for taking the time to send them on to me.
                         
    Billy