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1538.1 | Sounds a good quote! | VOGON::DAWSON | Turn ignition on - Turn brain off! | Fri Sep 06 1991 11:24 | 17 |
1538.2 | | MALLET::BARKER | Pretty Damn Cosmic | Fri Sep 06 1991 15:59 | 18 |
| re .-1
> ago. BTW, it's a 1.7 engine in the turbo because they need the extra
> space around the cylinders and heads for the extra cooling required.
You are almost correct while I was utterly wrong. The actual cc is 1769 (the
1.9 is actually 1905).
> Out of interest, what is a "Meteor" BX??
It's one of those special edition jobbies with alloy wheels, metallic paint &
rally seats. This quote is pretty poor value as the difference in list price
between the bog standard TGD Estate & the Meteor Estate is only 360 pounds so
you would have paid the uplift 3x over by the end of the lease. I must say that
I don't really understand this as the TGD lease cost is actually less than the
standard car as even having a tow-bar added doesn't bring it up above the zero
cost level. So the real incremental cost of the Meteor is 330 + cost of a tow
bar.
Nigel
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1538.3 | | FORTY2::PALKA | | Tue Sep 10 1991 12:21 | 9 |
1538.4 | MR2 quotes recevd sept 1991 | WOTVAX::CLARKE | | Tue Sep 10 1991 16:04 | 28 |
1538.5 | No More Quotes? | UBOHUB::CURRIE_I | | Tue Sep 10 1991 18:23 | 22 |
| Has anyone else seen the latest 'Newsflash' at the front of Car Fleet
VTX? It says that no quotes received after yesterday (9th September)
will be processed, and any orders have to be in by 19th September,
after which "our system will be upgraded in line with the new policy
and we will have 'enquiry only' access".
Comment - yet again announcements/policy changes affecting the car
scheme come out of the blue. I don't know how long the message about
these deadlines has been visible, but it can't have been long...
Question - Does this mean that we can only order against the basket of
quotes in future - i.e. no non-standard orders? If so, this directly
contradicts what I was told by Car Fleet? If it is not the case, why
impose the cut-off on quotations?
As it happens, I got my quotation request (for a Peugeot 405 GTD Turbo
estate) to Fleet in the nick of time. I will post the figure in this
Note when I get it.
Ian
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1538.6 | Under wraps I guess | WOTVAX::CLARKE | | Tue Sep 10 1991 20:21 | 12 |
| re .5
I actually spotted this note on VTX last Friday (pretty sure it
was not there before) which means that no notice of impending
change was given to anyone. It was one of the reasons I spoke to
Car Fleet to speed up the quotes/order in process
However the disclaimer that has been on VTX since July-ish did
state that until the new system arrived any exceptions would be
treated as one-offs so I suppose the "system" has been followed to
the letter.
Alan (quote/order in nick of time!)
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1538.7 | Saving money?!?! | KERNEL::LOAT | Time for me to go away,get a new name... | Wed Sep 11 1991 13:10 | 12 |
1538.8 | Peugeot 405 GTDT Estate Quote | ODDONE::CURRIE_I | | Fri Sep 13 1991 19:15 | 17 |
1538.9 | Some good news regarding _my_ new lease car | MALLET::BARKER | Pretty Damn Cosmic | Fri Sep 13 1991 23:58 | 10 |
| re .0
>computer problem - heaven forbid). I haven't got a delivery date yet but doubt
>that it will be before my current 30 month lease is up in 10 days time. I'm
>currently at 57K miles & counting.
I was almost wrong. I've just had a delivery date of the 1st October so that's
only a fortnight after my old lease is up.
Nigel
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1538.11 | | COMICS::WEGG | Some hard boiled eggs & some nuts. | Wed Sep 25 1991 15:50 | 10 |
1538.12 | This is typical pre-announcement behaviour | VOGON::KAPPLER | but I manage ... | Wed Sep 25 1991 16:30 | 11 |
| Dear Mr. Moderator.
Posting the previous here contravenes the rules for conferences. Items
should only be posted with the *Author's* permission.
I do not believe the manager concerned had any right to give permission
to pre-empt communication to the whole company on the agreed date, even
to this limited and interested audience.
JohnK
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1538.13 | Not much changes, it seems. | NEWOA::SAXBY | Aye. When I were a lad.... | Wed Sep 25 1991 16:33 | 9 |
|
Some interesting prices too...(As usual?)
How come a Calibra 16v is cheaper than the Cavalier GSi?
List price is higher on the Calibra and the insurance and supply
factors would seem to make the Calibra a dearer car to buy and run.
Mark
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1538.14 | | SHAWB1::HARRISC | Not very nice at all | Wed Sep 25 1991 16:38 | 3 |
| How do I set my terminal to 132?
.Craig
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1538.15 | RTFM | TIMMII::RDAVIES | An expert Amateur | Wed Sep 25 1991 16:38 | 9 |
| >> <<< Note 1538.11 by COMICS::WEGG "Some hard boiled eggs & some nuts." >>>
>> I assume the first few quotes are minus numbers, if not, those
>> Fiestas are a rip off!
Read the text and it explains!
Ordering a car item 3
Richard
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1538.16 | Assuming we can discuss it ... | WARNUT::SMITHC | one careful owner, low mileage !! | Wed Sep 25 1991 16:39 | 14 |
| I am sitting pretty, since my car was delivered in August. So, I have a
new car, which does not appear on the "Standard List", and if it did,
would undoubtedly cost three times as much.
This brings me to my point. I was rather under the impression that the
new car scheme would save the company money in terms of administration.
I was also led to believe that it would save the driver money,
economies of scale arguements being used, among others. So, why does my
previous car now cost #587 pounds, whereas it previously cost me #179
for the same spec ? Why does a Cavalier SRi now cost #1,049 squids,
whereas they used to be in the #600-#800 range ? I have the oddest
feeling that my current car will be with me for a very long time !!
Colin
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1538.17 | Hints and tips | TIMMII::RDAVIES | An expert Amateur | Wed Sep 25 1991 16:42 | 10 |
| >> <<< Note 1538.14 by SHAWB1::HARRISC "Not very nice at all" >>>
>> How do I set my terminal to 132?
>> .Craig
At the notes propt enter
Eve set width 132
then press <ctrl>Z
Richard
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1538.18 | List temporarilly hidden | TIMMII::RDAVIES | An expert Amateur | Wed Sep 25 1991 16:46 | 19 |
| >> <<< Note 1538.12 by VOGON::KAPPLER "but I manage ..." >>>
>> -< This is typical pre-announcement behaviour >-
>> Dear Mr. Moderator.
>> Posting the previous here contravenes the rules for conferences. Items
>> should only be posted with the *Author's* permission.
>> I do not believe the manager concerned had any right to give permission
>> to pre-empt communication to the whole company on the agreed date, even
>> to this limited and interested audience.
>> JohnK
I agree, the authority should be given by the AUTHOR Alastair wright.
As it wasn't I've set it hidden. I'll reveal it on the 27th.
Richard
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1538.19 | Sorry | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | On the bank of brinkruptcy | Wed Sep 25 1991 17:16 | 9 |
1538.20 | 8-) | SHAWB1::HARRISC | Not very nice at all | Wed Sep 25 1991 17:30 | 6 |
| Thanks for the advise on setting up my terminal.....
But now I now how to read the note you've set it hidden!!
I'll be quicker next time!
..Craig
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1538.21 | Why I protested - fyi | VOGON::KAPPLER | but I manage ... | Wed Sep 25 1991 17:51 | 13 |
| Just let me explain the reason for my protest..........
1) There are certain items in the processes of new car sheme which are
not mentioned in the communication (e.g. non-standard quotes not being
publically available on VTX), which I have queried with Alastair
Wright. Hopefully these will be sorted before the communication on
the 27th.
2) The Preferred Car List clearly states it is not the actual one.
Therefore speculating about prices now may well be a waste of everyones
time.
JK
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1538.22 | Public yet? | TIMMII::RDAVIES | An expert Amateur | Fri Sep 27 1991 15:37 | 6 |
| Well it's the 27th, I've not seen the mail. Can anyone confirm if it
has gone out or was it delayed?.
When can I release .10?.
Richard
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1538.23 | | VOGON::KAPPLER | but I manage ... | Fri Sep 27 1991 16:37 | 5 |
| I've not received a public copy yet. Last mail from Alastair Wright to
me (Weds. pm) said they were still trying to figure out an answer to at
least one of my questions (-:!
JK
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1538.24 | I'm at a loss... | HEWIE::RUSSELL | Hari Krishna, Hari Ramsden, Hari Hari | Fri Sep 27 1991 17:43 | 9 |
| re.23;
.... to understand how you can have questions about something that hasn't
yet been published?
Or is there some kind of review committee in place for this, and if so,
who is my representative?
Peter.
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1538.25 | t' management! | TIMMII::RDAVIES | An expert Amateur | Sun Sep 29 1991 18:56 | 6 |
| As this was sent to Rob's manager, the reviewers are probably the
managers.
Richard
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1538.26 | | COMICS::FISCHER | I'm not from Bushey | Mon Sep 30 1991 10:55 | 5 |
| Well, it's now the last day in September, and still no quotes/
fixed price list on VTX. What is going on?
Ian
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1538.27 | Car Fleet VTX | ODDONE::CURRIE_I | | Mon Sep 30 1991 18:00 | 8 |
|
Car Fleet VTX has just gone off the air (leastways, it's not available
from Basingstoke). Does this mean they're finally updating it with the
new standard quotes??!!
Watch that space...
Ian
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1538.28 | Negative, Captain | ODDONE::CURRIE_I | | Mon Sep 30 1991 18:17 | 5 |
| Re .27
Nope!
Ian
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1538.29 | | COMICS::WEGG | Some hard boiled eggs & some nuts. | Tue Oct 01 1991 10:56 | 16 |
| Well they're half way there this morning:
Digital UK Fleet Administration
1 Preferred Car List
2 Fleet Admin. News
3 UK Insurance Services (Auto accident and theft)
Car Fleet Administration.
VAX/VTX with VTXprep
Please refer to Fleet News letter for latest information.
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1538.30 | Info coming hard copy! | HEWIE::RUSSELL | Hari Krishna, Hari Ramsden, Hari Hari | Tue Oct 01 1991 11:16 | 10 |
| I've just had a mail from one of the managers herem saying she contacted fleet
yesterday, and was told the information is being mailed out hard copy,
and that the process has started (whatever that means!)
So watch your in trays.....
and hope it doesn't go the way of my copy of Connect, which still hasn't
turned up!
Peter.
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1538.31 | | SHIPS::ALFORD_J | an elephant is a mouse with an oper. sys. | Tue Oct 01 1991 11:33 | 5 |
| > yesterday, and was told the information is being mailed out hard copy,
apparently only to existing lease car holders...
what about everyone else ???
|
1538.32 | Can We See Reply .10? | BASCAS::CURRIE_I | | Tue Oct 01 1991 12:52 | 5 |
| Dear Mr Moderator,
Any chance of 'unhiding' Reply .10 now?
Ian
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1538.33 | | BAHTAT::HILTON | How's it going royal ugly dudes? | Tue Oct 01 1991 13:47 | 9 |
| Anyone know what will happen with 'finding your own deals'.
ie a friends car scheme, they can go to a garage and say 'What deal can
you do for me?'
So based on the standard fleet purchasing price, they can get metallic
paint etc as a freebie!
Greg
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1538.34 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | On the bank of brinkruptcy | Tue Oct 01 1991 14:07 | 8 |
| Since when have we been able to 'finding your own deals'.
I believe at one time you could let the leasing company know that a
garage had the model you require to cut down waiting time, but as the
car supplied has to match the quote exactly I would be most surprised
that a garage could throw in any freebies as you suggest.
Roy
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1538.35 | Why can't I do a deal | BAHTAT::HILTON | How's it going royal ugly dudes? | Tue Oct 01 1991 14:30 | 6 |
| Thats my point Roy.
If we have 'fixed prices' what's to stop me finding a better deal at
the SAME FIXED PRICE?
Greg
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1538.36 | IMO | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | On the bank of brinkruptcy | Tue Oct 01 1991 15:29 | 35 |
| Unfortunately Greg the scheme is not very flexible. The 'Preferred car
list' prices are agreed costs between DEC and Hertz/PHH.
The thing that will stop us finding a good deal is the fact that the
lease companies do not want to talk to employees, they deal only with
car fleet.
As it will be a fixed price for the year,
the company will save money because the allowance will
not have to be reviewed every 3 months as was necessary.
The biggest hole that I can see in the new scheme is with the
individual quotes that will be necessary if you want a car not on the
list. You will have to submit a quote in the same way as the old scheme
and will get a price based on the current lease costs. The problem is
that its quite likely that that the lease costs will increase somewhat
over the period of a year, so whilst a quote submitted shortly after
the yearly review (July) should be quite reasonable, the same quote the
following year just before the allowance is reviewed is likely to be
comparitably expensive. This of course will not affect the company as
the inflated prices will be passed directly on to employee. So in short
it would appear that there would be no advantage in choosing a car from
the list at the beginning of the fiscal year as an individual quote
will be reasonable. However, at the end of the fiscal year forget about
getting a quote as the cost will be prohibitably high and choose a car
from the list.
As the new scheme has not been made public yet, these comments are of
course only conjecture. Hopefully this will be clarified.
Regs,
Roy
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1538.37 | More Conjecture ! | WARNUT::SMITHC | one careful owner, low mileage !! | Tue Oct 01 1991 16:07 | 23 |
| re:-1 Let me add a little further conjecture. On the ass-u-me-ption
that the preferred list will be as expensive as it currently appears,
relative to the scheme up to July '91, car fleet could actually cost
the company more to run.
People will look at the preferred list, say 'whoa', put in a couple
of quotes, and then choose their car on the basis that at least a
quote may be better than the preferred list. This could easily mean
processing as many quotes as before, AND maintaining the so-called
'preferred' list.
This brings another question to mind. Who exactly prefers the
'preferred' list ?? Not me on current information.
DISCLAIMER - I have no particular axe to grind. I got a nice new car
only 4,500 miles ago (i.e. 2 months). I have a feeling that, as long as
it isn't nicked or damaged !, I shall be keeping it for some time !!
The new system has the makings of a *great* car fleet system, and can
save the company money, iff it is sufficiently attractive for people to
use properly.
Colin
|
1538.38 | | LEECHS::hilton | How's it going royal ugly dudes? | Tue Oct 01 1991 16:13 | 11 |
| re .36
But Roy, the garage MUST know the cost?
This is similiar to my friends scheme, I think. They have a fixed lease
and they can pay for extra's.
However some very good deals have been done by garages anxious to get
some business!
Greg
|
1538.39 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | On the bank of brinkruptcy | Tue Oct 01 1991 16:55 | 11 |
1538.40 | Megga Updates | LARVAE::BRISTOW_A | | Wed Oct 02 1991 17:14 | 12 |
| Wow !!
Car fleet have now added another whole page to the wonderful new
preffered car list option.
1. Preffered list guidelines
2. Preffered Car List
Either option gives you the message. Soon to be appearing
When ????????
|
1538.41 | Give 'em a chance. | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | On the bank of brinkruptcy | Wed Oct 02 1991 17:29 | 6 |
| Why the hurry ? After all the new scheme is not operative until
Oct 1st.
Oh, That was yesterday :-)
Roy
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1538.42 | I have a copy of the list - see the uk_digiital conference.! | SEDDFS::KORMAN | tgif!! | Thu Oct 03 1991 17:02 | 0 |
1538.43 | Abracadabra, now you see it. | TIMMII::RDAVIES | An expert Amateur | Tue Oct 08 1991 12:02 | 9 |
| Well this morning in my in-tray is a very dapper letter about the
scheme, saying the list will be on VTX soon (it isn't yet). So I am now
going to un-hide .10, as it is now in the public domain.
I have checked the wording, it is IDENTICAL. Only the car list is
missing now, so treat the one in .10 as FYI only, and not a tablet of
stone!
Richard
|
1538.44 | now you don't... | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | On the bank of brinkruptcy | Tue Oct 08 1991 13:18 | 8 |
| Further to Richards actions mentioned in the previous note I have
deleted .10.
I was wrong to post the note there as it was intended for a limited
audience (managers only). I don't wish to be a spoil sport but the new
list will be available in vtx shortly.
Roy (author of .10 and regret it)
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1538.45 | | SHIPS::ALFORD_J | an elephant is a mouse with an oper. sys. | Tue Oct 08 1991 14:00 | 8 |
|
The main thing missing from the list is 0 rated cars...only 1 is there a 1.6L
cavalier...
They are all "fat" cars as well, no small cars in the list at all !
Well I for one, can't use the list...ah well, so much for making life easier...
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1538.46 | Your copy is missing something... | UKCSSE::RDAVIES | An amateur expert | Tue Oct 08 1991 15:16 | 43 |
| RE .44, Rob I don't thin there was a need to remove the message, yes
the list is not accurate, but it carries many disclaimers.
Re .45 As the original list had many below '0' cars that could have
options fitted to bring up to '0'. There were also several small cars,
just look at page 1 (<xxx> is a below zero number)
THIS LIST IS REPRESENTATIVE OF HOW THE QUOTES WILL APPEAR, AND IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY
======================================================================================
F Y 9 2 PREFERRED C O M P A N Y C A R L I S T
ALL QUOTES BASED ON 36 MONTHS/36000 MILES
Model and Driver Insurance Sun Sun Alloy PAS ABS Met Elec Cat Auto Radio Alarm
No of doors Cost Group Man Elect Wheel Paint Wind Conv Trans
FORD FIESTA 1.6S (3) <589> 4 35 N/A 64(1) N/A 101 41 64(1) N/A N/A S 86
FORD FIESTA 1.4 GHIA (5) <493> 4* S N/A N/A N/A 104 41 S ?? 259 S 86
VOLKSWAGWEN GOLF 1.6 CL (5) <328> 4 52 N/A 142 126 N/A 33 137 S 143 S 86
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1.6 DRIVER (5) <313> 4 S N/A N/A 126 N/A 33 137 16 143 S 86
PEUGEOT 309 1.6 GLX (5) <274> 4 S N/A N/A N/A N/A 39 83 N/A N/A S 86
VAUXHALL ASTRA 1.6L EST.(5) <260> 4 S N/A N/A 70 193 41 N/A N/A 230 S 86
RENAULT 19 1.9 GTD (5) <241> 4 N/A S N/A 75 N/A 37 S N/A N/A S 86
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1.6 CLD (5) <238> 4 51 N/A 142 125 N/A 33 137 N/A 143 S 86
CITROEN BX19 TDG <205> 4 N/A S 47 S N/A 47 S N/A 293 S 86
VAUXHALL ASTRA 1.6 GL (4) <173> 4 S N/A N/A 70 193 41 S N/A 230 S 86
CITROEN BX19 TDG (EST) <140> 4 N/A N/A 47 S N/A 48 S N/A 293 S 86
VAUXHALL ASTRA 1.6 GL (5) <125> 4 S N/A S 70 193 41 S N/A 230 S 86
CITROEN BX 1.6 TGS <77> 4 S S 47 85 N/A 48 S N/A 293 S 86
ROVER 214 Si (5) <66> 4 85 N/A N/A 83 218 47 69 61 N/A S 86
FORD ESCORT 1.6 GHIA (5) <37> 4 S N/A N/A 78 110 41 S 89 259 S S
CITROEN ZX AURA <20> 4 N/A S S 96 N/A 46 S 72 N/A S 86
VAUXHALL CAVALIER 1.6 L (4/5) 0 4 S N/A N/A 116 193 43 S 44 197 S 86
PEUGEOT 205 1.6 GTi (3) 15 5 37 N/A S 82 136 37 62 N/A N/A S 86
VAUXHALL CAVALIER 1.8L (4/5) 33 4 S N/A N/A 116 193 43 S 44 197 S 86
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1538.47 | | SHIPS::ALFORD_J | an elephant is a mouse with an oper. sys. | Tue Oct 08 1991 16:53 | 11 |
| Re: .46
> Re .45 As the original list had many below '0' cars that could have
> options fitted to bring up to '0'. There were also several small cars,
> just look at page 1 (<xxx> is a below zero number)
OK, so I didn't understand that the <> meant negative.
I still don't consider any of the cars in the list "small" either in engine
size or physical size.
|
1538.48 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | On the bank of brinkruptcy | Tue Oct 08 1991 16:57 | 5 |
| Jane, the list is a "preferred list". If the car you would like is not
on it I believe quotes can still be submitted in the same way as
before.
Roy
|
1538.49 | VTX now contains the Preferred List | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | On the bank of brinkruptcy | Tue Oct 08 1991 17:29 | 1 |
|
|
1538.50 | | ARRODS::CARTER | An anonymous cog... | Tue Oct 08 1991 17:30 | 8 |
| The new list is now on VTX... anyone explain the complete dissapearance
of any Vauxhall Astra's???
Are they dangerous or something?
Xtine
|
1538.51 | Oh dear, they've done it again! | KERNEL::LOAT | Time for me to go away,get a new name... | Tue Oct 08 1991 17:45 | 15 |
|
Just looked at the preferred list.
Over 1/3 of the cars on it cost over 2000 pounds! Is this really going
to help a lot of the people out there decide on their cars without
putting in quotes? Maybe I'm in the wrong function! 8-[
There are only 4 cars under 200 pounds which have a 1.4 engine (three
of which are Rovers!).
Out of the people in my unit, I can see absolutely no-one who will be
using this preferred list at all!
Steve.
|
1538.52 | | SHIPS::ALFORD_J | an elephant is a mouse with an oper. sys. | Tue Oct 08 1991 18:28 | 6 |
1538.53 | Wow, you think a fiesta's big?. | TIMMII::RDAVIES | An expert Amateur | Tue Oct 08 1991 18:31 | 16 |
| >><<< Note 1538.47 by SHIPS::ALFORD_J "an elephant is a mouse with an oper. sys." >>>
>>I still don't consider any of the cars in the list "small" either in engine
>>size or physical size.
A ford fiesta 1.4 isn't "small" either in engine size or physical size????
Then what is,
RE another about astra's, if you look in the guidelines:
>>The selection of Vauxhall Astras and VW Golf's is currently limited due
>>to the impending announcement of the new models/prices.
Richard
|
1538.54 | | SHIPS::ALFORD_J | an elephant is a mouse with an oper. sys. | Tue Oct 08 1991 18:36 | 12 |
|
> A ford fiesta 1.4 isn't "small" either in engine size or physical size????
>
> Then what is,
less than 1.4 and a whole heap of cars that are narrower/shorter/approx-the-
same than/as the Fiasco, and BTW a *LOT* better quality/quantity etc.
I see no reason why Fords should be imposed on us, (IMHO) cheap tacky
overpriced cars at best, with the only alternatives a pug or a v.expensive
VW....
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1538.55 | | WARNUT::RICE | Fall off ? Me ? Nev.............................. | Tue Oct 08 1991 19:21 | 12 |
| Re: .52
>>Preferred list ? Preferred by whom ?????
I quote from the "The New Car Scheme" mailshot :-
"..The list includes the most popular models on the fleet se;ected by
employees over the past 12 months...."
If the above is actually true [ :-) ] then I think it answers your
question.
Stevie.
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1538.56 | Big expensive cars very popular in Snams ! | LARVAE::LEACH | Better to burn out than fade away | Tue Oct 08 1991 19:27 | 8 |
|
re -.1
It certainly does reflect the most popular cars. Here in Snams there
are loads of Jaguar XJ6 3.2I 4DR saloons, Ford Scorpio 2.9I 24V 5DR
autos etc. in the car part :-)
Tony
|
1538.57 | | SHIPS::ALFORD_J | an elephant is a mouse with an oper. sys. | Tue Oct 08 1991 19:43 | 5 |
| > -< Big expensive cars very popular in Snams ! >-
Is that why the lease on Snams (rumour) is being expired ??
:-)
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1538.58 | | COMICS::WEGG | Some hard boiled eggs & some nuts. | Tue Oct 08 1991 21:43 | 12 |
| Well I love the VTX preferred car list. The way it dynamically
sets your workstation window through a variety of dimensions in
rapid (or not so rapid) succession is very entertaining.
Try going back a page when you're already on the first one.
I find it hard to believe the list really contains the most popular
cars of the last year. Why is there no Pug 205 1.9 GTi?? There are
so many in the UVO car park, you have to remember your registration
number.
Ian.
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1538.59 | RECIPE time | ARRODS::WINTERSS | Mother of all systems | Wed Oct 09 1991 12:08 | 17 |
|
How to make a New Car perferred list:
Take the list of most popular cars ordered from fleet last year.
Run it through "Can't Have That" selection filter
Add a few extra models for completeness (Jags etc)
Add more caveats than an IBM proposal
QED !!
Tell it to the USERS
Le Badger
|
1538.60 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | On the bank of brinkruptcy | Wed Oct 09 1991 12:14 | 1 |
| .59 is the best explanation of the new scheme I've read yet :-)
|
1538.61 | All par for the course really !!! | SUBURB::ALLYS | Reality... No Digital !! | Wed Oct 09 1991 12:55 | 6 |
| re: -2
Bit like the Digital price book, if we can't get equipment offerings
right, how the hell can we expect to get a car offering list right.
|
1538.62 | It's gone again | IEDUX::jon | I'm in an Ealing comedy | Wed Oct 09 1991 14:11 | 10 |
| I just looked on VTX for the preferred car list but it seems to have
gone again!
I could read the Guidelines however, and discovered that "The Fixed
Price scheme is not available to non-supplement holders." Anybody care
to hazard a guess why this is? It doesn't seem difficult to add the
amount of the supplement to the price shown to get a price for
non-supplement holders.
Jon
|
1538.63 | | SHIPS::ALFORD_J | an elephant is a mouse with an oper. sys. | Wed Oct 09 1991 14:46 | 5 |
1538.64 | Just another ripoff | DOOZER::JENKINS | Pschorrly 'ken shabby | Wed Oct 09 1991 17:14 | 4 |
|
Why should ANYONE pay insurance anyway?
|
1538.65 | Its back, and what a choice ?! | MINDER::SWCA06::HESLOP | | Wed Oct 09 1991 17:55 | 15 |
1538.66 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | I'm not from Bushey | Thu Oct 10 1991 11:11 | 13 |
| The car list seems to lack "cheap" cars! Maybe the this-is-not-a-pay-freeze
didn't affect Car Fleet personnel.
Personally, I'd have liked to have seen the "popular models" (ie Ford, GM,
Rover, Renault, Peugeot) listed with ALL available models. It seems
a little strange that you have to submit a quote request for a Rover 216SLi
yet a BMW, Saab, or Merc is available on the list.
Just think of all that money that'll have to be spent getting a new list made
up!
Ian
|
1538.67 | Cheap though it is..... | VOGON::KAPPLER | but I manage ... | Thu Oct 10 1991 11:13 | 6 |
| I'd agree the Rover list seems peculiar.... There's no 414 SLi but
there is a 214SLi.....
Guess I just drive an "unpopoular" car!
JK
|
1538.68 | | FORTY2::PALKA | | Thu Oct 10 1991 11:26 | 20 |
| re .64
You pay insurance if
1) You can't afford the loss if the insured against event happens.
(e.g. huge third party claims for damages)
and
2) The event is not likely to happen to you (e.g. your own car written
off)
I imagine that digital would have third party insurance even if it was
not required by law. There is no need for comprehensive insurance as
the cost of the inevitable incidents can be spread over the whole car
fleet, and be less than the corresponding insurance.
Noone would take out insurance against a puncture, because the risk
doesn't satisfy the above criteria. I.e. punctures are likely to
happen, and the cost of one is not going to break you. So the cost of
insurance would be greater than the expected loss.
Andrew
|
1538.69 | More work for fleet! | KERNEL::LOAT | Time for me to go away,get a new name... | Thu Oct 10 1991 14:19 | 11 |
| If this is a attem,pt to cut down admin costs in fleet, I don't think
it'll work.
With such a small choice of small cheap cars, people will be subnitting
more quotes than before! On the old list of quotes, there were far more
small cheap cars (especially cars under 1.4 litres).
How many Jags have you seen in DEC car-parks!
Steve.
|
1538.70 | SIX | ODDONE::PAYNE_R | | Thu Oct 10 1991 15:49 | 3 |
| RE. .69..
WELL AT WIMGROVE THERE ARE SIX...
|
1538.71 | It's there, no it is not, yes it is, no it's not... | ODDONE::PAYNE_R | | Thu Oct 10 1991 16:01 | 15 |
|
I see that our wondeful Car leasing people have again removed the
Perfered car list. WHY ??? How can anyone ever be expected to order a
new car if the list is not visible for any thing longer than 10 mins.
!!!
I Feel so Quote pads being used coming on...................
Frustrated.... Want to change my car...Richard.
P.S. (Any one know of Digitals eqiv. of A. Daly, Maybe he can deliver
the goods)
BYE.
|
1538.72 | What was where???? | SIEVAX::MUMFORD | Don't try to outweird ME!!!!!!! | Thu Oct 10 1991 18:54 | 16 |
|
Re .71:
I was beginning to think it was just me.... I have just returned from hols
all expectant, like... but I might have guessed they meant September spelt
O-c-t-o-b-e-r. I have been waiting for around 3 months to see what the numbers
are like so I can decide whether to join the lease scheme - or hock myself up
to my neck and buy my own there are some incredible deals on offer but the
interest/insurance is a drawback).
Incidentally, has anyone not received the list in the post??? I seem to find
that a number of people who I know have... of course I might just have been
forgotten - but who can tell???
Cheers
Andy
|
1538.73 | Letter, no list | TIMMII::RDAVIES | An expert Amateur | Thu Oct 10 1991 19:18 | 11 |
| >> <<< Note 1538.72 by SIEVAX::MUMFORD "Don't try to outweird ME!!!!!!!" >>>
>> -< What was where???? >-
>> Incidentally, has anyone not received the list in the post??? I seem to find
>> that a number of people who I know have... of course I might just have been
>> forgotten - but who can tell???
No, All I received was the full letter. The list was not included.
Perhaps those that had the list were heading towards renewal anyway?.
Richard
|
1538.74 | | JUMBLY::PARK | | Sat Oct 19 1991 18:05 | 32 |
| In the next few months I have to decide which car I want to drive
for the next 3 years. I looked at the preferred list and there just
wasn't much that interested me.
I don't want a car that's bigger than a 1.4 for tax reasons - why pay
a lot more for little extra.
There's also a lot of new cars coming out which won't be on the list
because they're not popular - yet.
I need to do some more investigation and arrange some test drives
but the two new cars I'm thinking about at the moment are:
o Peugeot 105 XSi
o Citroen AX GTi
Both share the same 100BHP engine (<1.4) with insurance group 5 and
have a list price of 10,000 - a couple of hundred pounds more than the
1.4 Fiesta Ghia (which is by far the cheapest car on the the preferred
list).
Both cars have had impressive write-ups from a number of car
magazines. If fact they're wondering why anyone would want to buy a
205 GTi (1.6) when the 105 XSi is so much better - and costs so much
less.
When I get them I'll put the quote(s) in here, but if anyone else is
also thinking along the same lines I'd be interested in hearing about
it.
Alex.
|
1538.75 | What category are *you*? | VOGON::KAPPLER | but I manage ... | Sat Oct 19 1991 22:45 | 8 |
| If you do putquotes in here, please remember to state what type of user
your are. I think the three categories are: Supplement Holder,
Non-supplement Qualified User, and Non-supplement non-qualified User.
It is not clear ot me that quotes are the same across those three
categories.
JK
|
1538.76 | My vote goes for the 106 | HAMPS::MADELEY_T | I'm just F.I.N.E. | Mon Oct 21 1991 11:18 | 11 |
| Re. -2.
Saw both the 106XSI and the AX GTI on Sat at Motorfair and out of the
two without driving them my vote would go for the 106. Looks and feels
a lot better made than the AX and isn't nearly as ugly. The 106 has as
much room inside as the 205, the only bits that are smaller are the
bonnet and the boot.
Cheers,
Spike.
|
1538.77 | | JUMBLY::PARK | | Mon Oct 21 1991 17:54 | 8 |
| RE. -1
I hadn't thought of going to the Motorfair - Mmmmmm it would be good to
see them both at the same time - Thanks.
RE: -2 OK
Alex.
|
1538.79 | Nissan 200 | BELFST::COBAIN | | Mon Oct 21 1991 18:24 | 8 |
| Has anyone obtained a quote for the Nissan 200SX since the new system
price list became available. I initially had one ordered and it was
cancelled, prior to delivery. FLEET will not process a quote for me
until the new year as all the leases have been extended. I'd appreciate
any information you have.
Gary.
|
1538.80 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | I'm not from Bushey | Mon Oct 21 1991 19:28 | 5 |
| You must be earning a packet !!! I reckon they must be in
the region of 2.5 - 3 grand!
ian
|
1538.81 | When's your lease up?. | TIMMII::RDAVIES | An expert Amateur | Mon Oct 21 1991 19:31 | 11 |
| From VTX guidelines...
Ordering a car
Quotes/orders for replacement cars will not be accepted more than 3
months prior to current lease expiry date.
When is your renewal date?, was it close when your lease was extended,
or is it stillmore than 3 months away?.
Richard
|
1538.78 | | TASTY::JEFFERY | My God, It's full of stars! | Mon Oct 21 1991 19:48 | 8 |
| I think that we need some way of disseminating quotes on
"non-preferred" cars, so that we can see if they are much
more expensive.
I'm disappointed that the Renault 19 16V isn't there. I've
certainly seen a lot of them in Snam & Hamps car parks!
Mark.
|
1538.82 | Cheaper than I thought | WARNUT::RICE | Fall off ? Me ? Nev.............................. | Tue Oct 22 1991 13:01 | 8 |
| Someone in our office just took delivery of a 200, lease cost not
calculated by fleet yet due to extending the lease, but was expected to
be about 1,600 - 1,700, fleet still waiting for lease Co to come up
with a new price for 36 months.
It wasn't the expensive 200 (ie. no CD player)
Stevie
|
1538.83 | MY delivery date | BELFST::COBAIN | | Fri Oct 25 1991 19:10 | 3 |
| My delivery date was 04-oct-1991 when all the leases were extended. The lease
has been extened to April. My original price was 1750 pounds, I was stretched to
limit on that and just wonder what the new cost will be.
|
1538.84 | Fiesta RS Turbo | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Tue Oct 29 1991 16:37 | 16 |
1538.85 | New Astra GSi 16v | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Thu Oct 31 1991 11:30 | 7 |
1538.86 | Honda CRX Vtec quote | MINDER::POWELL | | Thu Oct 31 1991 14:53 | 19 |
|
Just got a quote back Honda CRX Vtec at 1560ish for a supplement holder,
thats about 50% up on the last two quotes I've tried for the same car.
The first cancelled because of the VAT increase the second because of
the car scheme re-vamp.
WHAT A RIP OFF... this is more expensive than a local Honda dealer
quoted for a one off lease.
If quotes like this keep up I can see me keeping my current car until
they come and take it off me...
I'm still waiting for a quote back for the R19 16V, the last quote I
had was 550ish, will post it when it arrives.
G.P
|
1538.87 | What spec 19? | HAMPS::MADELEY_T | I'm just F.I.N.E. | Thu Oct 31 1991 15:03 | 9 |
| Re. -1.
I will be very interested indeed to see what the quote for the R19 16v
comes out at, and how it matches the price I pay for mine which I got in
August. What spec is the quote for - any extras?
Cheers,
Spike.
|
1538.88 | R19 extras | MINDER::POWELL | | Thu Oct 31 1991 15:06 | 8 |
|
RE: R19 16V
Only metallic paint (that great blue colour!).
What did you pay for yours?
|
1538.89 | Renault 19 16V price | MALLET::BARRY_M | | Thu Oct 31 1991 15:29 | 9 |
1538.90 | | DOOZER::JENKINS | You want 'ken what? | Thu Oct 31 1991 15:54 | 5 |
|
Isn't that really odd? We seem to be paying more for 36mths/60,000
than 30 mths/30,000.
worralorracrap.
|
1538.91 | | HAMPS::MADELEY_T | I'm just F.I.N.E. | Thu Oct 31 1991 16:14 | 6 |
1538.92 | MHO | CHEST::RUTTER | The Joy Of Six(es) | Thu Oct 31 1991 16:21 | 7 |
1538.93 | Some cars are cheaper... | HEWIE::RUSSELL | Hari Krishna, Hari Ramsden, Hari Hari | Thu Oct 31 1991 17:19 | 9 |
| like the BX TZD Turbo, which is a couple of hundred quid cheaper on the new
scheme than the old.... but I haven't tried to do any real comparisons,
as I have my current car for an extra 21 months now.
Amybody want to swap for a black TZD Turbo with ABS and air con? It's only
slightly more expensive for you to take over my car than to get a brand
new one....
Peter.
|
1538.94 | Look for another leasing company | SUBURB::ALLYS | Reality... No Digital !! | Thu Oct 31 1991 17:40 | 15 |
|
What are the fleet buyers upto, given that:
- Interest rates are coming down
- Lease period has increased by six months
- Better deals on the price are available given the recent price
slashes
Surely the lease price should should come down, as usual Digital gets
sce*wed again.
|
1538.95 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Thu Oct 31 1991 18:08 | 9 |
| Several people have commented on why the lease cost hasn't gone down
despite increasing the lease time by six months.
The lease costs have gone down but so has the allowance.
Therefore the 'driver' price is more or less the same.
Digital is making a saving here, but we are not.
Roy
|
1538.96 | HONDA CIVIC SALOON | COMICS::PEWTER | | Thu Oct 31 1991 18:11 | 7 |
|
I had a quote about a month ago for the Honda Civic GL saloon. This has
Power steering, electric sunroof, electric windows (all 4) and mirrors,
and a 1.4 litre 16v engine all as STANDARD. The quote price is 300.00.
|
1538.97 | | NEWOA::ALFORD_J | an elephant is a mouse with an oper. sys. | Thu Oct 31 1991 18:36 | 4 |
|
> The lease costs have gone down but so has the allowance.
Huh ? what allowance has gone down ???
|
1538.98 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Thu Oct 31 1991 19:09 | 15 |
1538.99 | Steaming piles | DOOZER::JENKINS | You want 'ken what? | Thu Oct 31 1991 21:26 | 11 |
| re .last
It certainly explains that the benefit has been reduced and that
scheme participants will have to dig deeper into their own pockets.
The R19 16v example shows were getting screwed by the leasing companies
as well.
worralotmorecrap.
|
1538.100 | they kept that one rather quiet... | NEWOA::ALFORD_J | an elephant is a mouse with an oper. sys. | Fri Nov 01 1991 11:02 | 9 |
1538.101 | I hope this makes more sense. | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Fri Nov 01 1991 11:29 | 21 |
1538.102 | | NEWOA::ALFORD_J | an elephant is a mouse with an oper. sys. | Fri Nov 01 1991 12:20 | 3 |
1538.103 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Fri Nov 01 1991 12:38 | 8 |
1538.104 | | NEWOA::ALFORD_J | an elephant is a mouse with an oper. sys. | Fri Nov 01 1991 15:03 | 14 |
1538.105 | | SUBURB::THOMASH | The Devon Dumpling | Mon Nov 04 1991 14:30 | 10 |
1538.106 | Robbed Again | MINDER::POWELL | | Mon Nov 04 1991 15:27 | 17 |
|
Just for interests sake I got a private quote for a CRX Vtec from my
next door neighbor who works for a leasing company in Liverpool. The
quote he got me undercut our leasing quote by about 800 pounds per
year. Even in you take our insurance into account we are still being
RIPPED OFF. Further more he said that a complany with volume such as
ours could expect another 10 percent or so off.
Ringing up car fleet (many times because they NEVER reply to messages)
got the standard "Nothing to do with us, thats what were given" when I
told them our quote was too high. I would have thought that the job of
Car Fleet was to get the best deals saveing us and the company money,
not let the leasing companies walk all over us......
Flame off G.P
|
1538.107 | Low residual values = high lease cost | VOGON::KAPPLER | but I manage ... | Mon Nov 04 1991 15:53 | 15 |
| I'm told that the main reason our quotes are coming in so high at
present is that the bottom has dropped out of the used car market,
making our leasing companies project low residual values.
The issue is being checked out both from the perspective of our deal
with the leasing companies, and to ensure employees will not be
disadvantaged. However, these things take time .......
JK
p.s. As an aside, many companies are now using schemes that will only
take used cars into their fleets. They pick up 1-year old cars from
auction, lease them in the usual way, but are making a tremendous
saving just becuase of the market situation.
|
1538.108 | But that's why we use lease companies... | HEWIE::RUSSELL | Hari Krishna, Hari Ramsden, Hari Hari | Mon Nov 04 1991 19:39 | 20 |
1538.109 | don't quote me... | DOOZER::JENKINS | You want 'ken what? | Tue Nov 05 1991 02:21 | 13 |
|
Re .108
Spot on. We should not and must not be made to pay for the incompetency
of the leasing companies we use.
Question: Are new lease quotes based on 36 mths/36000 or 36mnths/60000?
If it's the latter, it's not suprising that some lease quotes have
gone up compared with the 30mnth/30,000 we used to work with. Perhaps
another undisclosed employee benefit?
Richard.
|
1538.110 | and now to get some answers | VANGA::KERRELL | Dave Kerrell @REO 830-2279 | Tue Nov 05 1991 10:29 | 5 |
| There's been some very good points raised in the last few notes which
would be a shame to waste. How about collecting these together and sending
them to Alistair Wright?
/Dave.
|
1538.111 | Lessors view | CHEFS::OSBORNEC | | Tue Nov 05 1991 19:38 | 13 |
|
I met socially today with one of the managers of our leasing scheme (ie the
leasing end). Whilst we leant on the bar, not discussing Digital, he told
me the leasing companies completely underestimated the crash in residuals
this year, hence the rise in prices. He said their net profit contribution
has not increased at all.
He's a straight guy, who I know well enough for him to tell me his
version without him dressing it up.
Colin
|
1538.112 | R19 16V quote
| MINDER::POWELL | | Fri Nov 08 1991 14:44 | 27 |
|
The R19 16V quote with metalluc paint as the only option came back
today at 850ish, a quote that six months ago was 550ish. Very disapointing....
Hillary Baily at car fleet has been very helpful with my CRX quote, the first
person that I have ever known from that group showing any initiative. PHH and
HERTZ got an on the road price of 14200ish pounds which cost me 1550ish on the
scheme. I could get the price to 14000 at the local dealer without trying so
Hillary got back in touch with the lease companies who re-negotiated to 13800.
This has saved a bit but it is still out of my range, a shame as before the
budget I had the same car on order for 1026....life is a bitch..
The car scheme has been revised for the worse. When it was shut down we
were told that when it came back it would be more competitive. What
has actually happened is the company has taken the any saving by dropping the
allowance by 200 pa and extending the lease period, thus taking any
savings itself. All this in a year when theres been a virtual pay freeze. Nice
one Digital. Come to think of it this is a pay cut as the car benifit
has dropped in terms of car age and the cost to the employee...
Perhaps if the allowance had stayed at 3400 than both parties would have
benifited...now that does sound like a sensible idea.
G.P
|
1538.113 | CITROEN AX GTi quote | JUMBLY::PARK | | Thu Nov 28 1991 11:30 | 22 |
1538.114 | | NEWOA::SAXBY | Is Bart Simpson the anti-Christ? | Thu Nov 28 1991 11:55 | 5 |
|
I would have thought that the Pug has a better resale value (or
anticipated one, since the AX GTi is quite new).
Mark
|
1538.115 | | JUMBLY::PARK | | Thu Nov 28 1991 12:31 | 6 |
| RE: -1
I think you're right but I'm still a bit surprised. I did check with
car fleet and they confirmed the price with HERTZ.
Alex.
|
1538.116 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | There are always options | Thu Nov 28 1991 12:52 | 18 |
| The quotes I've seen recently (in this conference) seem to be
expensive. I would think as time progresses they will become more
expensive still until the car allowance (supplement) is increased
again. As the company has provided the preferred list which will not
get revised until July, I doubt that the allowance will be reviewed
until then.
Lease costs will increase all the time so individual quotes will be priced
accordingly whereas the fixed list will remain the same.
I think the people in the best position are those with leases that
expire around july/august so that individual quotes will benefit from
the recently revised allowance.
Maybe the answer is to take over a car with 8 or 9 months lease left
so that it expires at that time (you will also get the new reg :-) ).
- Roy
|
1538.117 | double check that quote! | HEWIE::RUSSELL | Hari Krishna, Hari Ramsden, Hari Hari | Thu Nov 28 1991 16:10 | 23 |
1538.118 | Peugeot 106 XSi | JUMBLY::PARK | | Mon Dec 09 1991 18:42 | 15 |
| Well I just received a verbal confirmation via car fleet/leasing
company on the two Peugeot 106 quotes I asked for. If you remember
I'd also asked for the Citroen AX GTi (which I asked to be rechecked)
and still came out at a 250+ driver cost for a supplement holder.
106 XSi with all extra's except ABS = zero driver cost
106 XSi with anything (ABS etc) = zero driver cost.
As the 106 is a much better (in my opinion) and more expensive car,
guess which one I'm going to choose....... its a 1.4 as well so
the tax position is good.
Alex.
|
1538.119 | Peugeot 106 XSi quote | JUMBLY::PARK | | Tue Dec 10 1991 14:03 | 6 |
1538.120 | XR2i Fiesta | NEWOA::DALLISON | Rock n roll putty tatt | Thu Dec 12 1991 20:36 | 5 |
1538.121 | Nova GSi | NEWOA::ALFORD_J | The intermission fish... | Fri Jan 17 1992 16:14 | 13 |
1538.122 | | PERKY::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Fri Jan 17 1992 16:19 | 10 |
1538.123 | | NEWOA::ALFORD_J | The intermission fish... | Fri Jan 17 1992 18:35 | 18 |
1538.124 | MITSUBISHI SPACEWAGON GLXI ESTATE QUOTE. | WOTVAX::BIDDULPHM | | Fri Jan 24 1992 16:38 | 11 |
1538.125 | Just a thought. | CATPAW::CLIFFE | The FAR SIDE is getting nearer | Fri Jan 24 1992 17:26 | 12 |
|
Could I ask the moderator to move the actual quotes to a separate
note that would be read only ?
This would make browsing easier for people, and they could use this
for replies etc.
(Yea it's friday)
PS. I like the 24 months of -last
Tom.
|
1538.126 | I think, | FUTURS::WATSON | Rik Watson | Fri Jan 24 1992 19:07 | 10 |
| The 24 months of .-2 is probably because of (expected) high milages.
As I understand if the lease is for 60,000 miles or 36 months - which
ever is sooner. So if you expect to cover 30,000 miles a year then the
lease will be for 24 months.
Rik
Note that _you_ pay the same independent of the milage, Digital pickes
up the ``high milage excess''.
|
1538.127 | Renault CLIO | SUBURB::LAWSONM1 | | Tue Feb 11 1992 16:41 | 3 |
1538.128 | Looks cheap | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Life's a One Take Movie | Tue Feb 11 1992 18:03 | 5 |
| Considering that the 19 16v is around #800, that sounds excellent
value!
Paul (who might be interested in one if it goes well on motorway
touring)
|
1538.129 | Insurance Cheaper | BAHTAT::HILTON | How's it going royal ugly dudes? | Tue Feb 11 1992 20:23 | 5 |
| Probably cheaper because the Clio is 2 grades lower insurance than the
19 16V on the new 1-16(?) scale
Greg
|
1538.130 | How do they justify that? | LARVAE::MADELEY_T | I'm just F.I.N.E. | Tue Feb 11 1992 21:45 | 6 |
| I wonder how do they justify that then? I'd have thought it would be
higher if anything.
Cheers,
Spike
|
1538.131 | | TASTY::JEFFERY | You get surface noise in real life! | Thu Feb 13 1992 14:38 | 3 |
| I thought it had an ignition immobiliser.
Mark.
|
1538.132 | | FUTURS::WATSON | Rik Watson | Fri Feb 14 1992 13:18 | 1 |
|
|
1538.133 | Looks like I'll have to get a Celica | FUTURS::WATSON | Rik Watson | Fri Feb 14 1992 13:23 | 7 |
1538.134 | Am I starting to sound like MITCHELLD? | NEWOA::SAXBY | Go ahead, Punk. MAKE MY TEA!!!! | Fri Feb 14 1992 13:33 | 5 |
|
Why would anyone want an MX-3 OR a Celica? These two cars challenge the
Mini Marcos when it comes to styling?
Mark
|
1538.135 | | WARHED::PATTERSON | | Mon Mar 02 1992 18:25 | 20 |
1538.136 | | MAJORS::ALFORD | | Mon Mar 02 1992 20:51 | 18 |
1538.137 | I've been FRONTERA'ed.. | WARHED::PATTERSON | | Wed Mar 04 1992 18:31 | 14 |
1538.138 | Total RIP OFF | KERNEL::BROWNE | Chris Browne Operational Management Team | Wed Mar 18 1992 11:43 | 18 |
|
Car Fleet should allow you to see how they worked that one out,
the unsatisfactory answer that you said you received was because
they simply made it up. The car does about 83 MPH flat out
accelerates to 60 in about 16 seconds, a lot of the mechanicals
are not specific to the Frontera. Taking all these facts into
consideration why inded is it so expensive.
Over the 3 year lease, they would (phh,hertz) be recieving about
2-3 grand more than the car costs to buy !!!
Has anyone any idea how car fleet calculate the prices on the
scheme ?
C
|
1538.139 | | VOGON::KAPPLER | Spontaneity is fine in it's place.... | Wed Mar 18 1992 22:36 | 3 |
| Car Fleet don't calculate the prices. The lease companies do.
JfK
|
1538.140 | I didn't mean what I said | KERNEL::BROWNE | Chris Browne Operational Management Team | Thu Mar 19 1992 11:40 | 11 |
|
I actually meant how do Hertz PHH calculate the cost, I know that
car fleets function is to..err.........what is their function.
I would of thought that somebod at car fleet would know how it's
calculated though. I'm interested in finding out.
CRb
|
1538.141 | Wear and tear? | SBPEXE::PREECE | Just gimme the VAX, ma'am... | Thu Mar 19 1992 11:54 | 20 |
| Maybe PHH/Hertz/Car Fleet make the asumption that, if you buy a big 4x4,
you're going to be driving it off-road (Nah ! Surely not...;-), so the residual
value for a 3-year-old vehicle which has gone up and down a few mountains
will be substantially less than one which has stayed on the black-stuff.
Or maybe they make the assumption that the second-hand-car-buying public
will feel that way.
Or maybe they assume that it's going to cost a lot more in repairs and
maintenance, because of its more rugged lifestyle ?
Why there should be that much difference between the 3- and 5-door, I'm not
sure, unless they feel that *seriously* rugged drivers wouldn't bother with the
mere 3-door ?
I want to know why they quote the fuel mileage for a constant 75mph
in 4WD....doesn't seem something you'd want to do very often......;-)
Ian
|
1538.142 | | PERKY::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Thu Mar 19 1992 12:28 | 6 |
| >>Or maybe they assume that it's going to cost a lot more in repairs and
>>maintenance, because of its more rugged lifestyle ?
But in this case, they would charge the driver for 'vehicle abuse' !
J.R. (maybe they would be right, who am I to argue ?)
|
1538.143 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | One of them's got a gun | Thu Apr 02 1992 17:49 | 4 |
| Where have all the Nissan's gone?
Ian
|
1538.144 | Frontera to eternity | WELCLU::OVERELL | | Thu Apr 02 1992 18:08 | 15 |
|
Hi... I recieved a couple of quotes for the frontera .The 2.0l sport
with alloy wheels,electrics,front nudge bars, and metallic paint came
in at #928.00. The diesel turbo with the same options came in at
2002.00. this was before the budget,and so (hopefullly)should be
cheaper now.
Their is a small problem at the factory concerning the sport's
reardoor seals,and according to phh,they have not yet recieved any
delivery dates.
I have recently submitted aquote request for the petrol estate
version with alloy wheels as the only option and will post that quote
here when it arrives.
keith.
|
1538.145 | Golf quote? | CURRNT::PAYNE_A | Discount Pants'n'Haircuts | Fri Apr 03 1992 21:28 | 3 |
| Has anybody recieved a quote for a New Golf GTi yet?
Andy
|
1538.146 | my 2pw | ARRODS::WINTERSS | Sean WInter - London TCC | Mon Apr 06 1992 14:25 | 4 |
|
Nissan Sunny Gti 2.0 16v hatchback - standard (Black) 369 pounds
Renault Clio 16v - standard (red) 216 pounds
|
1538.147 | Good Prices | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Mon Apr 06 1992 14:57 | 7 |
| 369 for the Sunny GTI! WOW!
Stuff the preferred car list. The Sunny list price is more than the
Renault 19 16V which comes in at 815 on the list! Perhaps I can afford
a more expensive car :^)
Greg
|
1538.148 | How Long? | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Life's a One Take Movie | Mon Apr 06 1992 15:59 | 5 |
| How long did these quotes take to come through from request to issue?
Also, anybody had a Corrado Quote recently?
Paul
|
1538.149 | | LEECHS::hilton | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Mon Apr 06 1992 16:31 | 4 |
| > anybody had a Corrado Quote recently?
Salesman I know put in for one. Will try and get it off him..........
|
1538.150 | A proper performance Corrado perhaps... | BELFST::FLANAGAN | Bread + Fire = Toast | Mon Apr 06 1992 17:11 | 7 |
| Saw what proclaimed itself to be a Corrado G60 Supercharged
yesterday...at least that is what it said on the tailgate. There was no
"G60" bit on the front grill, but maybe that is only on the Golf.
Looked a nice machine and had BBS spoked alloys on.
Gary.
|
1538.151 | Observations... | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | I only _work_ in outer space | Mon Apr 06 1992 22:29 | 14 |
| Re: lease costs.
It would appear that the idea of the preferred list has back fired this
year as lease actually seem to of gone down rather than up.
It would be a different story if individual quotes were costing "over
the top" in which case the preferred list would be useful.
If this trend continues then the actual car allowance may well drop to
bring it back in line with the base lease cost of a cavalier 1.6L or
whatever is used as a benchmark. In which case gets your quotes in
before July. A bargain is sure to be had !
Roy
|
1538.152 | Frontera Sport again | BAHTAT::CARR | Dave Carr 845-2317 | Thu Apr 09 1992 14:08 | 17 |
1538.153 | Honda Civic 16vtec16v | ARRODS::WINTERSS | Sean WInter - London TCC | Sat Apr 11 1992 20:14 | 6 |
1538.154 | | MAJORS::ALFORD | | Mon Apr 13 1992 13:45 | 7 |
1538.155 | the final fronter(a) | WELCLU::OVERELL | | Thu Apr 16 1992 19:22 | 10 |
|
Hi, more on the Frontera....
longe wheelbase petrol Fontera with alloy wheels as the
only option........#1870.
This qute was returned 10-apr-91 (post budget)
|
1538.156 | | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Tue Apr 21 1992 20:10 | 7 |
| These are from a guy in our office:
VW Corrado 16v Hatchback 1979
BWM 318I 1897
Greg
|
1538.157 | Any extras please? | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Life's a One Take Movie | Tue Apr 21 1992 20:17 | 3 |
| What options did he have?
Paul
|
1538.158 | 190E | SEDSWS::BOND | Its grim up North | Tue Apr 21 1992 20:43 | 2 |
| Mercedes 190E 1.8 Price , 900 pounds.
|
1538.159 | | LEECHS::hilton | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Tue Apr 21 1992 20:57 | 2 |
| No options on the Corrado
BMW 318 had sunroof + ice
|
1538.160 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | One of them's got a gun | Wed Apr 22 1992 12:35 | 5 |
| re .15
Is there supposed to be a figure in front of the ,900??
Ian
|
1538.161 | Electric or Handle | SEDOAS::BRISTOW_A | | Wed Apr 22 1992 14:06 | 7 |
| RE: .159
Is the sunroof on the BMW 318i (Electric) or (Manual).??
Cheers
Andy
|
1538.162 | Mazda 626 | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Wed Apr 22 1992 17:07 | 1 |
| Mazda 626 2.0i Automatic 1200
|
1538.163 | ??? | BERN02::BYRNE | | Thu Apr 23 1992 11:34 | 2 |
| Are these quotes for insurance per year or leasing per month- excuse
the ignorance!!!
|
1538.164 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Thu Apr 23 1992 12:47 | 5 |
| Quotes are for leasing per year - inclusive of insurance, after the car
supplement has been subtracted.
Ian
|
1538.165 | Car fleet say this is true !! | SEDOAS::BRISTOW_A | | Mon Apr 27 1992 15:47 | 11 |
1538.166 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Mon Apr 27 1992 16:08 | 5 |
| can you let us know if this does prove to be a misquote.
Ian
|
1538.167 | Get a quote, don't choose from the list. | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | I only _work_ in outer space | Mon Apr 27 1992 16:58 | 6 |
| This just goes to show that most of the quotes that have come in over
the last month or so seem to be about 500 cheaper than normal.
Expect the car allowance to go down in July :-(
Roy
|
1538.168 | Fleet quote cockup alert | ARRODS::WINTERSS | Sean WInter - London TCC | Mon Apr 27 1992 17:11 | 16 |
|
Re: .146
I ordered the Nissan (who wouldn't at that price!) A couple of days
later I get a photocopied sheet telling me that the proce is now 781 pounds.
(they had forgot to add the insurance, but the other quote the clio it was added)
This was after I got fleet to check the Nissan quote on two different occasions.
In addition the its does add up. Original price was 369 plus the insurance (400)
giving 769 as a total So why 781.......something fishy??
The moral of this sad tale is now matter how many times you check the quote, is
only found to be too cheap when you order it...&}
Sean
|
1538.169 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Mon Apr 27 1992 17:18 | 6 |
| After the hassle I had getting my car, I tend to have some doubt over
anything I am told by car fleet.
Ian
|
1538.170 | | SUBURB::THOMASH | The Devon Dumpling | Mon Apr 27 1992 17:48 | 14 |
|
> Expect the car allowance to go down in July :-(
I have a mail that says as of 1-July 1991 people who take cars are
overcompensated, and those who take the money are less-overcompensated.
This was the reason given for people who take the money getting less
then those who take the car.
It didn't go down last year.........
Heather
|
1538.171 | | LEECHS::hilton | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Mon Apr 27 1992 17:59 | 5 |
| re .168
I thought that Nissan quote was too good to be true!
Greg
|
1538.172 | ...notes quotes... | WARHED::LIVINGSTONE | | Tue Apr 28 1992 15:41 | 13 |
|
I think this has been mentioned before, but........
Is there a notes file specifically allocated or used for car quotes?
Why can't car fleet post the quotes they get into a notes file, just
like the good old days?
I'm after something different this time round. I need to order in the
next month...fancy a Mazda or Alfa..maybe a Nissan..anyone know of any
good quotes for something a bit different????
Martin
|
1538.173 | Honda Prelude - Insurance Problem! | BELFST::COBAIN | | Wed Apr 29 1992 14:36 | 16 |
| At present I am waiting on a Quote from Fleet for the new Honda Prelude
2.0i. However they have told me that they cannot provide a quote as
they do not know which Insurance Bracket the car falls in to. I would
have thought it a simple procedure, to check which Insurance group the
car was in, either by phoning Insurance or the Honda dealers, however
I'm told it's not that simple. Fleet must take their Insurance group
from "WHAT CAR" magazine, and refuse to take it from any other source,
the result of this is that the Insurance group is not in this months,
or next months, so I will have to wait at least until June for a quote
on this Car. Seems "CRAZY" to me, but I'm just a name and a number to
them - Why should they worry.
The car is priced similarly to the Honda Accord 2.0i manual, so I was
wondering if anyone has received a quote for that model since the
Budget, just to give me an idea of the price.
Gary.
|
1538.174 | Don't give up | MVSUPP::RYMER | Stealthy is Healthy | Wed Apr 29 1992 16:25 | 12 |
|
Call "WHAT CAR?" on 081-943-5637. Ask for KIM CLEARY - She is responsible for
editorial data. Explain your predicament, she will probably be able to find
the insurance group for the Prelude. Take care, however, she will almost
certainly give you the new "ABI" rating - this is not acceptable to fleet
admin. Try to get the old rating if possible.
Forward the information to fleet admin - stating the source as "WHAT CAR?,
I'm sure you'll find they will be co-operative.
Andy.
|
1538.175 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Wed Apr 29 1992 16:29 | 8 |
| Yeh, the new car scheme seems to be increasing admin and car
rental costs rather than reduce them. It'll be interesting to see
whether they reassess the car scheme in july and change the
format once again.
Ian
|
1538.176 | | LEECHS::hilton | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Wed Apr 29 1992 17:26 | 7 |
| I reckon they will keep it the way it is. The only way it was bad this
year was the sudden drop in car prices. If prices had gone up, the
preferred list would have been very good.
C'est la vie
Greg
|
1538.177 | | NEEPS::IRVINE | I gonna build the Wall again... | Wed Apr 29 1992 17:33 | 16 |
1538.178 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Wed Apr 29 1992 17:46 | 10 |
| But surely, because of the inadequate fixed price list, admin costs must
have increased. Apart from the odd note in here, we have no idea how
much to expect to pay for a car. Does anyone know how many quotes we
are allowed to submit?
What happens if someone at DEC park puts in for a quote on an MR2 and
then someone at Viables does the same? Do they get back the same quote
or is the workload duplicated?
Ian
|
1538.179 | You know it makes sense | SEDSWS::OXFORD | who's pulling my Pilsner | Wed Apr 29 1992 18:10 | 12 |
| re. 177
The quote was put in by one of the engineers in my office.
It is for a basic 190 E. The only option quoted for (so that he didnt
get the "preffered car list price") was for a larger fuel tank !,
the cheapest option available.
And yes it is 900 pounds.
But who wants a 190 E taxi anyway.
Nick.
|
1538.180 | | NEEPS::IRVINE | I gonna build the Wall again... | Wed Apr 29 1992 19:56 | 4 |
1538.181 | personal quotes | WARHED::LIVINGSTONE | | Thu Apr 30 1992 13:26 | 13 |
|
I spoke to car fleet the other day and enquired about ordering a car
from someone else's quote number (just like the good old days) but she
said that the quotes were 'personal' and that if I wanted the exact
same car I would have to put my own quote in. This sounds like
mega-overheads, because the other guy's quote is still valid for a
month, yet I can't order from that - I have to duplicate the whole
process !!!!!!!!
By the way, one of the chaps here has just ordered a Rover 220 GTi for
just over 700 pounds. Good eh?
Martin.
|
1538.182 | | SEDSWS::WILLMOTT | | Thu Apr 30 1992 14:06 | 8 |
|
The Merc quote was apparently minus the insurance !! But as the
delivery date has been confirmed Car fleet have decided the quote
stands. I've seen the All-in-One with my own eyes and judgeing by the
Mailing list there is quite a few happy expectant Car owners around.
Chris
|
1538.183 | It'll all come out in the wash | BLKPUD::WILLIAMSH | | Thu Apr 30 1992 16:26 | 9 |
1538.184 | A questionette ? | KERNEL::BROWNE | Chris Browne Operational Management Team | Fri May 01 1992 18:42 | 15 |
|
My car is up for renewal in August, I'm after a Renault 19 16V
Chamade next, they are 800 odd quid on the preferred car list
at the mo, but if you put a personal quote in then you can get
one for around 550, well worth doing. My question is, if I put
a quote in NOW for a Renault, will it still be valid in
August. My reasoning for this is that I reckon that the car
allowance wil go down and therefore I will have to pay more
if I put a quote in in June after the new preferred list
is produced.
Anyone know how long a quote will last for ?
C
|
1538.185 | Valid for 1 month | CURRNT::PAYNE_A | Discount Pants'n'Haircuts | Fri May 01 1992 19:50 | 4 |
| The quote form says that it's valid for one month, and gives you a date
to order before.
Andy
|
1538.186 | Quote anyone ???? | SEDOAS::BRISTOW_A | | Fri May 01 1992 22:04 | 9 |
| Has anybody, or does anybody know of recent quotes that have been
returned for the BMW 318is Coupe.??
The way quotes are coming in at the moment (reasonable), compared to
the preffered list.
This particular model might look like a good option ????
Andy
|
1538.187 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | I only _work_ in outer space | Mon May 04 1992 15:15 | 9 |
| RE: .184
Go for it Chris! When you get back a quote, submit the order specifying
that the car should not be delivered until Aug 1st. There should be no
probs. Remember, I ordered my RS from an existing quote (old scheme)
in December '90 and specified that the car should not be delivered
until the end of March '91.
Roy
|
1538.188 | | LEECHS::hilton | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Tue May 05 1992 13:11 | 26 |
| re .184
>My car is up for renewal in August, I'm after a Renault 19 16V
> Chamade next, they are 800 odd quid on the preferred car list
> at the mo, but if you put a personal quote in then you can get
> one for around 550,
Similiar situation as me, and the same car!!
VTX says:
You may commence the renewal procedure no more than three months in advance
of your termination date.
But I wonder who would check this? I'm going to submit my quotes 1st
June, for a car due October, and see what happens.
The letter from Alastair Wright states:
"Quotations will be valid for 30 days. Orders placed will be subject to
re-quote if the time between order and delivery exceeds five months"
The only "but" is what happens if they increase the supplement levels in July?
Greg
|
1538.189 | Any ideas on..... | SUBURB::ALLYS | Reality... No Digital !! | Tue May 05 1992 15:36 | 14 |
| Has anybody seen any quotes for the following:
RS2000 Escort
220 GTI Rover
XR3i 130BHP Escort
As we only get two quotes, may as well get an idea to see what the prices are.
Shaz
|
1538.190 | not quite correct... | MAJORS::ALFORD | | Tue May 05 1992 16:27 | 6 |
|
> As we only get two quotes,
You may only have 2 quotes going through the system at any one time. As soon
as you get one back, you can send in another one...
|
1538.191 | More than two quotes? | SUBURB::DELANYS | | Tue May 05 1992 17:14 | 8 |
| Is .190 the OFFICIAL view?
I thought that you could have more than two quotes simultaneously, but
only in extreme circumstances...
Cheers,
Stephen
|
1538.192 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | I only _work_ in outer space | Tue May 05 1992 17:33 | 13 |
| re: the OFFICIAL view?
From vtx - Lease Car Renewal Guidelines.
Please refer to the Preferred Car List...
Alternatively, you may submit 2 quotations of your own for cars not on
this list.
Roy
PS I think that you may submit a further two quotes if you wait a month
for the original quotes to expire. I wonder if this is ever checked?
Unlike the order form, quotes do not need to be signed by a manager.
|
1538.193 | Help on quotes !! | SEDOAS::BRISTOW_A | | Tue May 05 1992 17:40 | 7 |
| Has anybody received any quotes for the Golf Gti yet.??
Specicications & Costs appreciated. !!
Thanks
Andy
|
1538.194 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Tue May 05 1992 19:59 | 5 |
| So if you can only submit 2 quotes, your quotes are private to you,
and the preferred list is crap, then what happens if you don't like
the quotes?
Ian
|
1538.195 | | LEECHS::hilton | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Tue May 05 1992 20:03 | 9 |
| re .194
Ehm, why not ring car fleet and ask them.
Greg
PS substitute crap for another word, before you ask them ;^)
|
1538.196 | | MAJORS::ALFORD | | Tue May 05 1992 21:45 | 6 |
|
Re: (is it OFFICIAL)
That's what I was told by fleet when I rang to ask them about it.
The 2 quotes business is just to keep the paperwork (at any one time) down !!!!
|
1538.197 | Do I tear my hair out now or later????? | WOTVAX::LIVINGSTONEM | | Wed May 06 1992 18:25 | 11 |
|
If they want to keep the paperwork down why are quotes personal????
Why can't I order a car under someone else's quote number if I am doing
the exact same job and want the exact same car for the exact same
lease? Why do I have to inject my own paperwork into the system with
the exact same details on it when there is already the same item kicking
around and still valid for a further three weeks???
Absolutely perplexed of Warrington. (Martin who has just quoted for
Mazda 626 2.0i GLX hatchback)
|
1538.198 | | VOGON::KAPPLER | Spontaneity is fine in it's place.... | Wed May 06 1992 18:44 | 9 |
| RE: .188
"who would check this"
If I was your cost centre manager I would. The oher proviso is that
delivery must not be before your current vehicle term expires. And I
check that as well, otherwise my CC ends up paying for the old vehicle!
JfK
|
1538.199 | Damage limitation? | ROMA::RUSSELL | Which one is the "Any" key? | Wed May 06 1992 18:47 | 13 |
| re .197;
maybe they are doing this to limit the impact of mistakes on the
lease costs; remember the classic mistakes; like the BMW 3-series
convertible, that was quoted by Hertz as a standard saloon; about
10 people ordered off that quote, and it must have cost Hertz a
few thousand quid to honour that quote.
Peter.
(who also can't see the logic of increasing admin overheads esp. in
this day and age)
|
1538.200 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | I only _work_ in outer space | Wed May 06 1992 21:07 | 8 |
| Re: .188 & .198
I agree that a manager would check when a new car is ordered, but
as a quotation does not require his signature he would not have
visibility of any quotes that are submitted. This is the point I think
that .188 is making.
Roy
|
1538.201 | | LEECHS::hilton | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Thu May 07 1992 13:44 | 9 |
| re .200
That's my pointm does anyone check a QUOTE before allowing it to go
through the system?
Assuming a quote is valid for 30 days, and the order price is valid for
5 months, you have a 6 month window!
Greg
|
1538.202 | 3 months it is.!!! | SEDOAS::BRISTOW_A | | Thu May 07 1992 19:57 | 14 |
| Car Fleet have started to check expiry dates of existing lease vehicles
as quotes are submitted.
I put a quote in due to somebody taking over my car (special
circumstances) and they bounced the quote because it was 6 months
before the expiry date. It was highlighted on the returned quotes that
I must re submit in 3 months.
i.e You cannot start the order process at more than 3 months out.
i.e 1 - 2 weeks to get quotes in and prices back and then 2 1/2 months
until delivery.. Unless you are having something really exotic...!!!
Andy
|
1538.203 | Oh hum, looks like its another Honda :-) | FUTURS::WATSON | Rik Watson | Fri May 08 1992 12:52 | 13 |
1538.204 | But I don't *earn* that much !! | VOGON::MORGAN | Clouds of Anger, Tears of Rain | Sun May 10 1992 23:24 | 9 |
|
If anyone out there is about to order a car from the 'standard' list
and has not put any other quotes in would they be prepared to put a
quote in for the new Escort Cosworth and tell us the number so that we
can all have a laugh.
Rich
|
1538.205 | Discovery | LARVAE::CLEMENTS_D | | Fri May 15 1992 18:33 | 2 |
1538.206 | A suggestion/question | PLAYER::WINPENNY | | Tue May 19 1992 13:04 | 18 |
|
I've never had the opportunity to have a company car on the lease scheme
and as such do not know about it's workings, however seeing as leasing is
basically another way of saying vehicle finance can you ask for a quote for
a nearly new car, i.e. less than a year old with lots of manufacturer's
warranty still left.
Has anybody suggested this or possibly done it?
I can see one large obstacle. I assume Hertz/PHH get huge discounts on new
cars which don't get passed on to the driver. It is possible that this
discount is large enough so that the new car costs the leasing company
about the same as a nearly new car to a private buyer. So why should they
finance a car with a visible price and visible profits when they can rake
it in with the existing arrangement.
Chris
|
1538.207 | | IEDUX::jon | Five more years? I need five more beers! | Tue May 19 1992 15:41 | 14 |
| Re .206,
> can you ask for a quote for a nearly new car
Afraid not.
I would have done this if it were possible.
Under the Digital lease scheme, you get a quote for a certain model of
car plus any extras. You can't specify a specific garage or car so it
is impossible to get a quote for anything other than a brand new car.
Jon
|
1538.208 | Lease company will consider most things | CHEFS::OSBORNEC | | Wed May 20 1992 13:56 | 9 |
|
The last company I worked for leased from Hertz. I could (& did) have
any car up to x pounds per month -- including any resales Hertz had in
stock. Meant I took a 2-year old very pleasant motorcar for the cost
of a new Cavalier.
Now a few years back, but a personal contact in another lease company
tells me all is possible.....
|
1538.209 | Look for the easiest options? | ARRODS::BARROND | Snoopy Vs the Red_Barron | Wed May 20 1992 14:43 | 8 |
|
-< Re .208 by CHEFS::OSBORNEC >>>
-< Lease company will consider most things >-
It's not the lease company that's inflexible in Digital. Only straight
vanilla flavour options are considered ...less hassle I guess.
Dave
|
1538.210 | Mazda 323 GLX fastback and some feedback ! | CURRNT::DAW | Pizzazz-man | Wed May 20 1992 23:33 | 26 |
1538.211 | like "nearly won the pools"! | ESPO01::GAY | Everything fixed Tomorrow | Thu May 21 1992 19:15 | 27 |
| In the spirit of I got a LOAD of help in here, I am inserting my two quotes
returned today .
Volvo SE turbo Estate 940 extras Cruise/Airbag/Elec sunroof/child seat for boot
Elec rear window
DRIVER 3011 on road 20,282
Volvo SE turbo Estate 940 extras Cruise/Airbag/child seat for boot
Elec rear window
DRIVER 2913 on road 19,939
The similarity was because I asked for a "Wentworth", but the request was
mistyped into the EDI system. I assume (everyone knows what ass-u-me means) that
as the "Wentworth" and standard car are the same list, the quote should be
similar.
I need automatic and ABS and aircon, anyone know ANY other car that has been
quoted to anyone (fiat 128 upwards!). Seriously, the auto's seem to mean
A: Forget the decent performers
B: If AUTO+aircon forget ABS
C: If AUTO+aircon+ABS see taxman about new "benefits in kind scale"
So far I have a chance (if I can get another quote!!!) on the Volvo, if I drop
some options.
No flames on the auto please, my wife only drives auto.
Jim Gay (new to this fleet roller-caoster, but learning fast!).
|
1538.212 | Something sleek? | NEWOA::SAXBY | Vote for Perot : He's got $3B! | Thu May 21 1992 19:50 | 13 |
1538.213 | Quotes... | RDGENG::MOAKESR | Your Robot sounds just like Pink Floyd..... | Thu May 21 1992 19:59 | 7 |
| Re: .21
I don't know about quotes for the car, but how about a Vauxhall Senator 3.0CDi ?
Auto/Aircon/Abs/6cyl power/All the gadgets!
~Richard
|
1538.214 | Vauxall = stone (bloodless) | ESPO01::GAY | Everything fixed Tomorrow | Thu May 21 1992 20:07 | 11 |
| Mark,
thanks, I have had a go at asking Vauxhall (Newbury) about the Carlton.
On a sliding scale of disinterest down to absolute rudeness, their man is off
the scale. Sounds interesting though, the price is o.k., I'll have to jump out
on the next calibra that comes by and ask to sit in it!.
Thanks for the rapid response.
Jim Gay
|
1538.215 | | NEWOA::SAXBY | Vote for Perot : He's got $3B! | Thu May 21 1992 20:09 | 7 |
|
If you're in Newbury, you can sit in mine (but it's a 16 valve)
sometime.
Mark
PS I know what you mean about N.I.M.
|
1538.216 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | Time to take the roof down | Thu May 21 1992 20:11 | 4 |
| Were you particularly after an estate? The new Granada is priced very
competitively. I prefer the Audi 100 estate, but it's *very* pricey.
Laurie.
|
1538.217 | Good inputs | ESPO01::GAY | Everything fixed Tomorrow | Thu May 21 1992 20:23 | 8 |
| Richard,
the 3.0i worries me (and my tax code).
I need not to break the current tax rules, I'm in rented accomodation and my tax
code is starting to look like a phone number!
Thanks though, the power of notes,
Jim Gay
|
1538.218 | What the Taxman doesn't see ..... | WARNUT::SMITHC | one careful owner, low mileage !! | Thu May 21 1992 21:36 | 13 |
| re:.211 and the shhhhhhh....TAXMAN
Be aware, the cost of the car declared to the taxman should be the
purchase price, NOT the list price. So, with PHH discounts, they could
well be below the 19,250. I know this because an acquaintance (i.e.
will remain nameless) has just purchased a 940 Turbo Estate. List was
around 22K, discount took it to 19K. A separate invoice for the
'extras' could fix any problem, not that he'd do this ;-)
Mind you, looking at your prices, they already include discount. And
PHH do not appear to be the best at bargaining !!
Colin
|
1538.219 | GOLF GTi Quote | BELFST::MCCORRY | In marriage 3 is company & 2 none | Wed May 27 1992 15:36 | 8 |
1538.220 | Honda Civic LSi quote | VOGON::MACDERMOTT | | Wed May 27 1992 16:24 | 10 |
|
Quote:
Honda Civic 1.5 LSi (4 door) .. standard (no options)
138 pa , 36 months / 60,000 miles
Valid until 21-June '92
Eamon
|
1538.221 | DOES THIS SEEM EXPENSIVE ????? | SUBURB::ALLYS | Reality... No Digital !! | Wed May 27 1992 16:26 | 11 |
|
Rover 220 GTI - 36mths (bog Standard) 1019 pnds
Ford XR3i 130 BHP - 36mths with ABS 766 pnds
Shaz
|
1538.222 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Lively up Yourself | Wed May 27 1992 16:57 | 5 |
| Rovers are generally overpriced, due to the market they are trying
to aim at.
Ian
|
1538.223 | Peugeot 106 XSi | CURRNT::PAYNE_A | Discount Pants'n'Haircuts | Wed May 27 1992 17:19 | 7 |
1538.224 | | NEEPS::IRVINE | Dr. Blair, Dr Blair, Dr J Hamilton | Wed May 27 1992 18:56 | 6 |
1538.225 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Mother played by Peter Beardsley, father by John Cleese | Wed May 27 1992 22:29 | 6 |
| Is it possible to get Car Fleet to actually question the lease company as
to how they arrive at these figures? It seems that car fleet will just pass
on a price regardless of whether it seems high or not. Surely it should
be the job of car fleet to find the best price for the driver.
Ian
|
1538.226 | I wish I had customers like Digital is for HERTZ/PHH.... | LARVAE::CLEMENTS_D | | Thu May 28 1992 13:24 | 14 |
| Hertz and PHH have a contract to supply all Digital vehicles. All Fleet
do is run the process of submitting to those two suppliers and then
passing on to the driver either the lowest of two quotes, the one
that's returned if either supplier declines to quote, no quote if
neither will quote, or 1 or two rejections if either/both can't quote.
They can't exactly be accused of negotiating the lowest price for the
driver, can they?
What it must be to have a captive audience/market! I'd like to know on
what basis these two suppliers won the contract. I don't think that
I've seen any kind of management from them in the last 13 yrs except an
annual tax disc arriving in the post (and even then Fleet does the hard
work of internal distribution).......
|
1538.227 | What no discount? | WELCLU::HOLT | | Mon Jun 01 1992 15:21 | 12 |
1538.228 | Citroen, anyone? | LARVAE::CLEMENTS_D | | Tue Jun 02 1992 15:07 | 6 |
1538.229 | Recent Quotes | WARHED::SAVAGE | | Tue Jun 02 1992 15:32 | 8 |
1538.230 | | TIMMII::RDAVIES | An expert Amateur | Tue Jun 02 1992 17:46 | 13 |
1538.231 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | I only _work_ in outer space | Tue Jun 02 1992 17:50 | 5 |
1538.232 | Mazda quotes | WOTVAX::LIVINGSTONEM | | Tue Jun 02 1992 20:39 | 15 |
1538.233 | mr2 GT | LARVAE::MCCARTNEY_J | Behind every successful woman is a surprised man | Wed Jun 03 1992 14:53 | 10 |
| MR 2 GT METALLIC PAINT Leather Steering Wheel (Fleet would not quote
unless I had an extra that wasn't on the preferred list)
#1589
It would have been over 1800 on the preferred list (no leather steering
wheel!).
jenni
|
1538.234 | RS2000 quote | SEDSWS::OXFORD | who's pulling my Pilsner | Thu Jun 04 1992 20:05 | 10 |
| Quote recieved today,
Escort RS2000, met paint. 60,000m / 2yrs
#1637 yr
Nick.
ps. to dear for me
|
1538.235 | Nick, Have you checked out the Sunny GTi ? | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | I only _work_ in outer space | Thu Jun 04 1992 20:16 | 8 |
1538.236 | As confused as everyone else. | SEDSWS::OXFORD | who's pulling my Pilsner | Thu Jun 04 1992 20:29 | 8 |
| re. -1
I wonder how much of the lease cost is insurance, and arent British
cars cheaper on running costs than Jap cars, seems a bit odd
to me too, also well out of my price range, i'm going to quote for a
Clio 16v and RS1800 fiesta next.
Nick.
|
1538.237 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | I only _work_ in outer space | Thu Jun 04 1992 20:43 | 9 |
1538.238 | New Clio quote !! | ARRODS::WINTERSS | Sean WInter - London TCC | Fri Jun 05 1992 14:15 | 12 |
|
I have just had my order accepted on a 1-aug Clio 16v (black) no extra's.
Drivers Price $98.
This compares to my previous quote for the Clio (red) at $216.
Funny Game Car Fleet innit......
Sean
|
1538.239 | | LARVAE::CLEMENTS_D | | Fri Jun 05 1992 16:29 | 6 |
1538.240 | Sunny or 100 NX?????? | WOTVAX::LIVINGSTONEM | | Fri Jun 05 1992 17:30 | 8 |
|
Can someone tell me where, if possible, I can see a Nissan
Sunny 2.0i GT ????? The local garage is one of the 'old' dealers and he
won't say because the Sunny is sold by Nissan, not Nissan UK. (Is that
right? see I am confused already). I know there is no love lost
between the two, but is a Sunny 2.0i GT the same as a 100 NX???
Martin. (Who still wants something a bit different than a Vauxhall)
|
1538.241 | 6-Seater? | VOGON::KAPPLER | Spontaneity is fine in it's place.... | Fri Jun 05 1992 17:30 | 6 |
| Dick,
The "one extra seat"..... Is that in the back making it a 6-seater
(e.g. half the 7-seat option)?
JFK
|
1538.242 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | I only _work_ in outer space | Fri Jun 05 1992 17:46 | 16 |
| Re: .240
The 100NX (SX?) is a totally different beast than the Sunny GTi.
The Sunny has a 2.0 16v engine and the 100 has a 1600cc engine
(if I remember correctly).
The 100 is a pretentious modern looking car (ugly IMO) the Sunny GTi
is a beefed version of the base Sunny model.
Sorry, don't now of any dealers that have this in stock.
Why not check out one of the many local "motor shows". A Nissan dealer
is bound to be there.
Roy
|
1538.243 | Sunny GTi in stock | PGREEN::PEASE | | Fri Jun 05 1992 18:08 | 10 |
|
Re: .240
Davenport Vernon in Reading have the new Sunny GTi and the GTi-R in
stock, or they did have last week.
Phil
|
1538.244 | Still no nearer | WOTVAX::LIVINGSTONEM | | Fri Jun 05 1992 19:38 | 12 |
|
Thanks for the difference on the Sunny and 100NX (yes it is weird
isn't it?). I believe that someone has been quoted about 800 squid for
a Sunny. Also believe it is a 'white knuckle ride' also did you know
that the price of a Nissan 200SX exec i.e air con, stacking CD, and
alloys has been reduced by #3000 as part of the Nissan v Nissan UK
squabble. The price is now 16,783 which is cheaper than Rover 420GSi
Sport !!!!
Martin (Who cannot fault his Cavalier CD but still wants something
Different but not Mega Expensive)
|
1538.245 | They fit in the same place as the factory fit ones..... | LARVAE::CLEMENTS_D | | Mon Jun 08 1992 14:21 | 6 |
| Re .241 ...
John, The tax-breaker 5-door will not allow **ANY** factory fit
options, so I opted for dealer fit of a single additional seat out of
the accessories price list. You don't have to buy them in pairs as you
do with the factory fit 7 seater option......
|
1538.246 | Astra GSi quote | SEDSWS::OXFORD | who's pulling my Pilsner | Tue Jun 09 1992 16:24 | 6 |
| Astra GSi
options. metallic paint, tow bar.
#1533 yr.
Nick.
|
1538.247 | Renault 19 16V 4 Door | KERNEL::BROWNE | Chris Browne Operational Management Team | Thu Jun 11 1992 13:39 | 20 |
1538.248 | Some guesses at .247 price | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Thu Jun 11 1992 14:06 | 9 |
| Chris,
If you are paying for the alarm that would bump it up, as extra's
always seem to be expensive.
..or maybe there has been a price increase due to the new shape due
out?
Greg
|
1538.249 | More thoughts | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Thu Jun 11 1992 14:09 | 9 |
| re .247
Thinking about it this is very expensive, in .229 there is a quote
with leather seats and black paint for 937, and the 14,000 pounds
Nissan GTI has come in at around 880 for the lease.
Ring up fleet and find out why!
Greg
|
1538.250 | The List! | BLKPUD::WARNESG | Mae hen iaith y Cymry more fyw ag erioed | Fri Jun 12 1992 16:14 | 24 |
|
Having read through this and other notes relating to quotes under the
new scheme, it seems the done thing these days when considering
leasing a car that appears on the preferred list, is to pop in a quote
request asking for (usually) trivial options with the common outcome
that the returned quote is less than the preferred list price.
Doesn't this undermine the whole validity of the preferred list ? The
workload on Fleet is not going to be reduced much if scores of people
are putting in quotes for 1.6 GL's with the optional parcel shelf
nodding dog :-) in order to shave (often) hundreds off the list price.
My thinking is that the preferred list entry for a car, whose price is
significantly higher than a recent quote for a higher specification
model, should be reassessed as soon as possible and the date of
reassessment published.
Then we could all have a little more faith in the list
Graham Warnes
|
1538.251 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Lively up yourself | Fri Jun 12 1992 16:32 | 8 |
| As has been said here before, the fixed price list is fixed for 12 months.
Usually, this would mean that a car at the end of the year would be
cheaper on the list than by submitting a separate quote. Because of
this years halving of company car tax and the recession forcing manufacturers
to reduce prices, the opposite has happened.
Ian
|
1538.252 | make 'em pay,..thats what I say... | BASCAS::BELL_A1 | two wheels and 138bhp.... | Fri Jun 12 1992 17:01 | 14 |
|
...re -1
in VTX (fllet news letter) it does state that the 'prefered' list will
be updated/evaluted on a regular basis......
I'm occasionally a fair man (sorry person) but Mazda has had an
electric sunroof and windows for the 323f, for atleast 6 months.....
..does the prefered list reflect this ?? or the fact that black paint
for the same car is a NO cost option....nah....
the cynic...
|
1538.253 | RE: .247 | SUBURB::ALLYS | Reality... No Digital !! | Mon Jun 15 1992 17:07 | 9 |
| I was thinking of putting a quote in for one of those !!
According to the brochure the 19 16v has an alarm as standard.
ABS would be nice, but I guess that would push it over the 1000 pound mark !!
Shaz
|
1538.254 | No alarm that I know of | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Mon Jun 15 1992 17:17 | 8 |
| re .253
Shaz, up until now it didn't have an alarm as standard. It had the RAPS
engine cut off as standard.
Unless they've now included an alarm with the new 19?
Greg=
|
1538.255 | ALARM INC | SUBURB::ALLYS | Reality... No Digital !! | Mon Jun 15 1992 21:34 | 14 |
| re-1
Yup it looks as if includes an "Anti theft alarm system" as standard now
according to the brochure.
Nice car shame about the 50-70 mph accel about 15+ seconds according to the
What Car mag.
It looks as if it may be either an SRI Cavalier or the 16V saloon R19 !!!
Shaz
|
1538.256 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Knocking on Heaven's daw-waw | Mon Jun 15 1992 21:44 | 9 |
1538.257 | crx | WELCLU::OVERELL | | Tue Jun 16 1992 17:23 | 8 |
|
just got a quote for a Honda CRX V-tec, no quoted options .
I think this is for the new model. I'm going to clarify this with car
fleet.
...............1183.00.....36 months/60,000 miles.
|
1538.258 | CRX | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Knocking on Heaven's daw-waw | Tue Jun 16 1992 19:52 | 8 |
1538.259 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Lively up yourself | Tue Jun 16 1992 21:28 | 4 |
| The new model isn't available till 26th June so I wouldn't be too sure.
Ian
|
1538.260 | y | WELCLU::OVERELL | | Wed Jun 17 1992 15:28 | 10 |
|
I phoned car fleet and was told that they didn't know for sure but
suspected that it was for the old (current)model.I then spoke to phh
fleet services and they confirmed that it was for the old model.
but this is a better looking car than the new (soon to be released)
model.
keith
|
1538.261 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Lively up yourself | Wed Jun 17 1992 15:35 | 7 |
| > but this is a better looking car than the new (soon to be released)
Not in my opinion.
Ian
|
1538.262 | NEW CRX (just needs wings) | BELFST::COBAIN | | Wed Jun 17 1992 20:42 | 11 |
| I have been speaking to a Honda dealer in the past week and he has
informed me that by the end of the year the new CRX will be available,
in a model with a full electric convertible roof. The roof will fold
into the boot automatically and clip into place, so you can have a
convertible at the touch of a button. Sounds like some machine, he
believes it will retail at approx. #17,500.
He told me the new CRX also has an extra 10BHP. (all it needs is a set
of wings, then it'd be up-up-and-away).
Gary.
|
1538.263 | Any GOOD 318i quotes? | CHEFS::RIZANT | | Fri Jun 19 1992 13:30 | 9 |
|
Can anyone let me know of a recent quote for a BMW 318i they might
have had recently? Standard equipment or extras, it doesn't matter.
I want to see how much BELOW the standard price it comes in at!
Thanks,
Terrell
|
1538.264 | A reference point !! | SEDOAS::BRISTOW_A | | Fri Jun 19 1992 15:12 | 9 |
| Terrell,
Take a look at .156/7/8/9.
Re: 318i BMW pricing.
Not much difference though.!!
Andy
|
1538.265 | | BLKPUD::WILLIAMSH | | Fri Jun 19 1992 19:45 | 4 |
1538.266 | Frontera and BMW prices | LARVAE::NEALE_A | Alison Neale | Thu Jun 25 1992 14:42 | 22 |
1538.267 | more quotes | WOTVAX::LIVINGSTONEM | | Mon Jun 29 1992 17:32 | 10 |
|
NISSAN 200 SX EXEC with sunroof instead of air conditioning on 24
month lease or 60,000 miles 1755 pounds
ALFA ROMEO 75 T.SPARK LIMITED EDITION loaded with extras 1700 pound
Why does the nissan which costs 3,000 pounds more to buy only cost
55 quid a year more on the lease (both group 8 cars)
Martin.
|
1538.268 | | ESBS01::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Mon Jun 29 1992 17:50 | 13 |
1538.269 | Resale value... | HEWIE::RUSSELL | HAL -> IBM; VMS -> Windows/NT | Mon Jun 29 1992 20:10 | 9 |
1538.270 | SENSE AT LAST | WELCLU::OVERELL | | Mon Jun 29 1992 22:35 | 11 |
| RE .267
IF YOU HAVE A VALID QUOTE NUMBER FOR THIS CAR COULD YOU MAIL ME WITH IT
AND ALSO THE COLOUR OPTIN...SOLID OR METALLIC.AS I HAVE SPOKEN TO
CARFLEET WHO TOLD ME I COULD ORDER FROM THIS QUOTE NUMBER!..(A CHANGE
OF POLICY TO CUT DOWN THE WORK LOAD?...WHO KNOWS)
ANYWAY SEEMS LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO ME....
THANKS
KEITH.
|
1538.271 | HELLO KEITH | WELCLU::YOUNG | | Wed Jul 01 1992 13:27 | 1 |
|
|
1538.272 | Carina E quote | KERNEL::BROWNE | Chris Browne Operational Management Team | Wed Jul 01 1992 16:21 | 14 |
1538.273 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Lively up yourself | Wed Jul 01 1992 17:08 | 10 |
| Chris,
I suggest you read A&M's road test of the Carina e from a coupla weeks
back before placing an order!!
I've got a copy at home I think if you're interested.
Ian
|
1538.274 | Renault 19 16V Quote | KERNEL::BROWNE | Chris Browne Operational Management Team | Thu Jul 02 1992 17:09 | 17 |
1538.275 | Saab 9000 | BRABAM::JACKSON | Dave Jackson - | Thu Jul 02 1992 22:43 | 21 |
|
Hi
Quotation dated 29 Jun 1992.
Saab 9000 CSXS Hatchback, #2827
Retail price is 18995
No extras. (The XS is the 2.0 16 valve with some pre-loaded goodies:
CD Autochanger
Electric sunroof OR Air conditioning
Metallic paint
The only factory fitted option is automatic gearbox. Several dealer options.
Saab Reading have been VERY VERY helpful to me. Hope they get the business!
DAVE J
|
1538.276 | more than enough car thank you | WELCLU::OVERELL | | Fri Jul 03 1992 12:39 | 22 |
|
Hi just recieved a quote for a Honda VTi 4 door civic.
options:- Rear spoiler.
Metallic paint.
For any one who is looking for a high(ish) performance saloon at
a resonable cost, I suggest you give this a try....1.6 ltr 16v engine
producing 160bhp. This is quicker than my GSi2000 cavalier!
It comes as standard with electric windows/sunroof, and abs and a
good size boot.
Will I be ordering one ? ........NO.. Why dont the Japs make cars that
anyone who is above average height can drive, without having to either
have expensive mods to the drivers seat position, or drive hunched up
over the steering wheel...(by the way I'm 6'4" tall).
Other than that a great car and all for 1306.00
t
|
1538.277 | RENAULT CLIO 1.8 16V | BLKPUD::COOPERA | Ann | Fri Jul 03 1992 17:27 | 18 |
1538.278 | quote differences... | ARRODS::WINTERSS | Sean WInter - London TCC | Fri Jul 03 1992 18:50 | 4 |
| Re: -1
The clio is coming back was a variation of quotes.. I had $216 for no extras
and $98 for black....It just like rolling dice.
|
1538.279 | Topless Rover | BAHTAT::CARTER_A | Andrew Carter | Thu Jul 09 1992 13:57 | 5 |
1538.280 | Cavalier Turbo Diesel (Splutter Cough) | BAHTAT::EATON_N | Nigel Eaton | Thu Jul 09 1992 14:07 | 10 |
1538.281 | couple of quotes | SEDSWS::OXFORD | who's pulling my Pilsner | Thu Jul 09 1992 15:41 | 14 |
|
Nissan Sunny Gti
Black paint
#890
Renault 19 16V saloon (old model)
met paint
ABS
rear wiper
#1042 (how did they get that figure ?)
Nick.
|
1538.282 | Volvo 850 GLT | ESPO01::GAY | Everything fixed Tomorrow | Thu Jul 09 1992 16:39 | 18 |
1538.283 | BMW Touring | LARVAE::NEALE_A | Alison Neale | Thu Jul 09 1992 17:44 | 10 |
1538.284 | honda prelude 20i | WELCLU::OVERELL | | Mon Jul 13 1992 13:40 | 6 |
|
HONDA PRELUDE 2.0i optons include..Metallic paint, and 2.3i alloys.
1608.00 for 60k miles or three years..
keith.
|
1538.285 | Mazda 626/Peugeot 405 | NEWOA::THOMPSON_R | Robert Joseph Thompson | Mon Jul 13 1992 18:30 | 5 |
1538.286 | Orion 16v | SEDSWS::WILLMOTT | | Mon Jul 13 1992 18:38 | 16 |
|
Ford Orion 1.8i ghia 16v
no extras
non metalic
# 434
I took delivery last Thursday and can honestly say I don't miss
my Golf gti (which I didn't want to give back) one little bit.
I'm well pleased. BTW can anybody recommend a good Ford garage
for servicing etc around the Bracknell area ?
Chris
|
1538.287 | Calibra 16V Turbo | YUPPY::RAVEN | | Mon Jul 13 1992 18:39 | 7 |
| Has anybody been adventurous to put a quote in for a
Calibra 16V Turbo yet ?
Just being morbid .
KR
|
1538.288 | Not quite Bracknell | SUBURB::GROOMN | Upsize, Rightsize, Downsize, Capsize | Mon Jul 13 1992 19:30 | 9 |
| Re : .287
but, GOWRINGS of Wokingham are excellent, used them for last 7 years on
my leasemobiles (except 18 months of GTT) and have been VERY impressed
with their service & attitude.
Nev.
|
1538.289 | Lost in notes | TIMMII::RDAVIES | An expert Amateur | Mon Jul 13 1992 20:48 | 5 |
| methinks .288 is misplaced??
Author, where should it go?.
Richard
|
1538.290 | | NEWOA::SAXBY | Vote for Perot : He's got $3B! | Mon Jul 13 1992 20:49 | 3 |
| I applies to .286, I think.
Mark
|
1538.291 | Ta | SEDSWS::WILLMOTT | | Mon Jul 13 1992 20:59 | 10 |
|
Re .288
I think so too. Thanks Nev
Chris
|
1538.292 | Strange goings on.... | CURRNT::PAYNE_A | Discount Pants'n'Haircuts | Tue Jul 14 1992 15:54 | 4 |
| Looking at the new car list on VTX I'm disappointed as there seem to be
no Matchbox models available. For further details see VTX.
Andy
|
1538.293 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Lively up yourself | Tue Jul 14 1992 16:33 | 5 |
| Yeh, I just had a look. Have car fleet really got that much time on their
hands to waste it putting alleged jokes on VTX?
Ian
|
1538.294 | Lighten up! | VANGA::KERRELL | Dave Kerrell @REO 830-2279 | Tue Jul 14 1992 16:57 | 5 |
| re.293:
Yes, that must have taken a long time to do!
/Dave.
|
1538.295 | | NEWOA::SAXBY | Vote for Perot : He's got $3B! | Tue Jul 14 1992 16:59 | 5 |
| I think the person who put that on VTX should be fired immediately!!!!
After all, Digital doesn't want people with a sense of humour, does it?
Mark
|
1538.296 | Mazda Quote | FILTON::BELLAMORE_M | | Tue Jul 14 1992 18:37 | 12 |
|
Mazda 323 GLXi SR H/B (solid paint)
60,000 miles, 2 years
#260.00
I've just received one in black, which is a no cost option.
Mark.
|
1538.297 | What gives? | TIMMII::RDAVIES | An expert Amateur | Tue Jul 14 1992 19:38 | 9 |
| >> <<< Note 1538.292 by CURRNT::PAYNE_A "Discount Pants'n'Haircuts" >>>
>> -< Strange goings on.... >-
>> Looking at the new car list on VTX I'm disappointed as there seem to be
>> no Matchbox models available. For further details see VTX.
Must have been short lived, there's no strange looking entries now...
Richard
|
1538.298 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Knocking on Heaven's daw-waw | Tue Jul 14 1992 19:38 | 7 |
1538.299 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Lively up yourself | Tue Jul 14 1992 20:17 | 4 |
| Oh sorry, it was a joke...
Ian
|
1538.300 | Its there, but for how long ? | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Knocking on Heaven's daw-waw | Tue Jul 14 1992 22:28 | 7 |
| The new car list appears to be on VTX.
At first glance the prices look quite reasonable.
I'm not sure that I like the format as its not very easy to compare
all cars in a certain price bracket like previously.
Roy
|
1538.301 | Cheaper | VOGON::MORGAN | Clouds of Anger, Tears of Rain | Wed Jul 15 1992 00:52 | 10 |
| RE. -1.
At first glance the prices appear to be lower than last years list.
e.g. I'm currently paying 2264 p.a. for a 16v Calibra, one of the
standard cars both this year and last. ON the new list the price
appears to be 1847 p.a - about a 15% drop ??
Rich
|
1538.303 | I makes me so angry... | PLUNDR::LOWEG | Don't believe a word | Wed Jul 15 1992 13:46 | 15 |
|
One p*ss*d off employee...
I ordered a Nissan about March this year 1.6 LSX Primera 272 quid only
to be told 3 weeks that it was due they had rejected the order (which
was on the pref car list) because Nissan had changed the lettering to
a SLX. I then quoted for a 1.6 SLX price 340 quid (this was after the
budget reduction) no extras.
Now I see the Nissan Primera "2.0" SLX is on the preferred car list for
only 279 quid.. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!
Gary..
PS. Its a good buy for somebody...
|
1538.304 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Lively up yourself | Wed Jul 15 1992 15:49 | 4 |
| Yeh, I thought this was one of the best deals on the new list.
Ian
|
1538.305 | Citroen up | LARVAE::IVES_J | Bad Karma in the UK | Wed Jul 15 1992 16:16 | 5 |
| The BX 1.9 TGD looks rather expensive at around 200 quid on the new
list. This used to come in at no extra cost, mind you the ZX 1.9D is
cheap enogh to have metalic paint and it still not cost you anything.
looks like the ZX then
|
1538.306 | Renault 19 16v | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Wed Jul 15 1992 17:19 | 6 |
| The Renault 19 16valve is looking good. Quotes came in around 800
pounds, the fixed price is 619.
My order is on its way!
Greg
|
1538.307 | Careful - watch the model! | HEWIE::RUSSELL | HAL -> IBM; VMS -> Windows/NT | Wed Jul 15 1992 20:10 | 9 |
1538.308 | errrrm...hang on a minute... | WARHED::LIVINGSTONE | | Wed Jul 15 1992 20:18 | 7 |
|
Something is not quite right here......
If the base car is a Cavalier 1.6L (i.e free, nothing, zilch) Why does
a Cavalier 1.8L cost ten pounds less (i.e -10).
??????? Martin
|
1538.309 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Knocking on Heaven's daw-waw | Wed Jul 15 1992 21:39 | 11 |
1538.310 | what are car fleet on ! | KERNEL::BROWNE | Chris Browne Operational Management Team | Thu Jul 16 1992 14:29 | 19 |
| RE: .306
My quote for the Renault 19 16V 814
Quote on the preferred List 619
WHAT !!!!!
They have also given a provisional delivery date of 1-AUG
so I have virtually no time in which to cancel my existing order
and order the cheaper one.
I was onto car fleet like a shot, they were typically non comital
about the situation, and said they would investigate the diffrence
in the 2 prices, I told them that no way was I going to pay 814.
Chris
|
1538.311 | Keep on at 'em | VOGON::MORGAN | Clouds of Anger, Tears of Rain | Thu Jul 16 1992 14:39 | 15 |
1538.312 | Update to .280 | BAHTAT::EATON_N | Nigel Eaton | Thu Jul 16 1992 17:48 | 13 |
|
Had some mail pointing out that I'd been stupid.
This is not unusual, but this time I can do something about it. This is unusual.
.280 refers to an "L" model.
That's better !!!!
Nigel
|
1538.313 | Prices are guessed? | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Fri Jul 17 1992 01:20 | 13 |
| Chris,
Keep at them. 200 pounds more is ridiculuos!
The Renaul t19 is very interesting. Last year on the preferred list it
was approx 800 pounds when the list price was 13,224. Now it's approx
600 pounds with a list price of 13175.
This is in a time when insurance costs have gone up! Either someone
screwed up badly last year or DIGITAL got a great deal this year! (or
it's a typo and the Renault 19 is more expensive :^(
Greg
|
1538.314 | Calibra Turbo | WELCLU::ADAMS | | Mon Jul 20 1992 14:49 | 12 |
1538.315 | Renault Clio 16V | CURRNT::PAYNE_A | Discount Pants'n'Haircuts | Sun Jul 26 1992 14:30 | 15 |
1538.316 | VW Corrados | EMERY::emery | DNA OSI Directory Architect | Mon Jul 27 1992 14:19 | 11 |
| Subject : Your Quotation :- VW CORRADO 16V HATCHBACK
Driver Price : #1847
Lease term : 36 months / 60,000 miles
Quote number : 012261 Date requested : 15 JUL 92 Quote expires on 22 AUG 92
Extras : As requested (leather stearing wheel)
Subject : Your Quotation :- VW CORRADO G60 COUPE
Driver Price : #2165
Lease term : 36 months / 60,000 miles
Quote number : 012262 Date requested : 15 JUL 92 Quote expires on 22 AUG 92
Extras : As requested.
|
1538.317 | MAZDA MX6 PRICE | SEDOAS::MILLER_N | | Mon Jul 27 1992 16:12 | 4 |
1538.318 | Mazda 323F GTi and Primera 2.0 SGX | SEDSWS::CRAKER | Could be a another Renault 19 coming up... | Mon Jul 27 1992 22:14 | 26 |
|
Two more quotes;
Mazda 323F 1.8 GTi Hatchback #1318
Nissan Primera 2.0 SGX #1023
Both at 36 month/60K.
The Nissan is considerably more expensive than the SLX already on
the preferred list, and as far as I can see the main difference is ABS,
alloys and a slightly (?) better interior. Doesn't seem worth the
extra lease cost.
Looks like a choice between the Primera SLX or the Renault 19 16V.
If only everyone else didn't have the Renault..... :-)
Richard.
|
1538.319 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | I've got a special purpose | Tue Jul 28 1992 12:49 | 5 |
| Can you get ABS as an option on the SLX Primera? The SGX also includes
electric sunroof and body coloured mirrors!!
Ian
|
1538.320 | PRIMERA 2.0eGT | FILTON::JENKINS_R | | Tue Jul 28 1992 19:42 | 4 |
1538.321 | PRIMERA GT QUOTE NO. | FILTON::JENKINS_R | | Tue Jul 28 1992 19:47 | 2 |
| ref .320. The quote number for the Nissan Primera 2.0eGT is 012087,
24months/60,000 miles, expires 5 August 1992.
|
1538.322 | RS 1800 ???? | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Knocking on Heaven's daw-waw | Thu Jul 30 1992 13:34 | 3 |
| Has anyone had a quote for a Fiesta RS 1800 ?
Roy
|
1538.323 | CORRADO VR6 PRICE? | SEDOAS::MILLER_N | | Thu Jul 30 1992 13:43 | 4 |
| Has anyone dared put in a quote for a Corrado VR6 yet? Sounds quite a
machine!
Nig.
|
1538.324 | Honda Civic Quote Price?? | YUPPY::CARTER | Windows on the world... | Mon Aug 03 1992 20:11 | 9 |
| If anyone has had a quote for a Honda Civic LSi recently could you give
me an idea of the cost.
Ta
Xtine
|
1538.325 | Toyota Celica quote? | UBOHUB::LOGAN_M | | Mon Aug 03 1992 21:30 | 7 |
|
Has anybody had a quote for a Toyota Celica lately? If so, would you be
kind enough to give me an indication of the lease price.
Thanks
Mark
|
1538.326 | Maybe even a test drive ?? | VOGON::MORGAN | Clouds of Anger, Tears of Rain | Tue Aug 04 1992 12:06 | 9 |
|
Re .324
Mail a colleauge of mine, Eamon MacDermott, on VOGON::MACDERMOTT.
Eamon takes delivery of one of these things today.
Rich
|
1538.327 | RS2000 / Frontera Quotes ?? | WELSWS::LEDGER | | Wed Aug 05 1992 15:26 | 8 |
| Hi,
Has anyone got a recent quote for an RS2000 Escort and/or a SWB
Vauxhall Frontera.
Thanks in Advance
Dave.
|
1538.328 | Mazda MX5 | FORTY2::BETTS | X.500 Development | Wed Aug 05 1992 17:47 | 5 |
|
Has anyone got a recent quote for a Mazda MX-5; preferably with
no options?
William.
|
1538.329 | RS200 quote | SEDSWS::OXFORD | who's pulling my Pilsner | Wed Aug 05 1992 18:24 | 10 |
| re.327
RS2000 quote.
I recieved one approx 4-5 weeks ago...
the price was #1450.
I didnt bother, to dear for me.
Nick
|
1538.330 | MX5 quote on it's way | BLKPUD::WARNESG | | Wed Aug 05 1992 18:46 | 9 |
|
Re .328
My quotes in for an MX5 with only option being a clock (!)
I'll post it here, shouldn't be too long now.
Graham
|
1538.331 | 3 series coupe price | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Life's a One Take Movie | Wed Aug 05 1992 19:06 | 7 |
| For any interested parties.....
Fleet informed me of a quote for a BMW 318is with NO extras of #2026.
Anybody interested can then use the basket prices for 3 series extras.
Paul
|
1538.332 | See note 501.39 | COMICS::WEGG | Working towards a better tomato | Wed Aug 05 1992 19:32 | 5 |
1538.333 | 190 SL | OASS::BURDEN_D | '24 Stude - The only way to Tour | Wed Aug 05 1992 19:34 | 29 |
| You don't want to know what a clock costs for a MB 190 SL (mid 50's - early 60's)
costs then, do you?
Dave
okay, I'll tell - about $1000 to $1500 here in the US, even more in Germany.
|
1538.334 | | FUTURS::WATSON | Fee fi fo fum, | Wed Aug 05 1992 19:38 | 2 |
1538.335 | Renault 19 16V Convertible. | CYCLIC::TURNER | | Thu Aug 06 1992 14:47 | 4 |
| Has anybody had a quote for a Renault 19 16V Convertible ?
Barrie.
|
1538.336 | Renault Clio 16V update | BLKPUD::COOPERA | Ann | Thu Aug 06 1992 16:39 | 16 |
| Update on Renault Clio - see 277.
I ordered the standard one with no extras and was given expected dely. of 9/8/92.
Have chased today and the garage asked if I knew that the spec had been changed.
The good news is the spec on mine will now include tilt & slide electric sunroof
(previously it was only a manual tilt). Also electric front window with one
action button. Also they are changing the trim but I'm not sure whether that's
the interior or exterior.
The bad news is it'll be manufactured in France in September - but then I'd
rather have the extras.
I wonder whether the Clio price will be increasing again in the near future?
(:-)
|
1538.337 | El cheapo | IEDUX::jon | Whoooooooosh! It's cucumber man! | Fri Aug 07 1992 18:18 | 14 |
| Has anybody put in a quote for a reasonable sized car with an engine
under the 1.4 litre tax limit?
E.g.
Escort 1.4 L
Astra 1.4i Merit
ZX 1.4 Reflex
etc.
I'm looking for a seriously cheap car on the lease scheme, if such a
thing exists...
Jon
|
1538.338 | Underpowered isn't the word... | CURRNT::PAYNE_A | Just between you and me, ... | Fri Aug 07 1992 19:03 | 5 |
| I've got an Escort 1.4LX as a hire car - Bagoshite, don't touch it.
I.M.H.O., of course.
Andy
|
1538.339 | dont forget the soggy handling | CYCLIC::TURNER | | Mon Aug 10 1992 13:06 | 3 |
| I second -1.
Barrie
|
1538.340 | Just in this am! | NEEPS::IRVINE | it's a duck with a hat on! | Mon Aug 10 1992 13:28 | 31 |
1538.341 | | MAJORS::ALFORD | lying Shipwrecked and comatose... | Mon Aug 10 1992 16:33 | 7 |
1538.342 | | IEDUX::jon | Whoooooooosh! It's cucumber man! | Mon Aug 10 1992 18:32 | 17 |
1538.343 | | MAJORS::ALFORD | lying Shipwrecked and comatose... | Mon Aug 10 1992 20:36 | 9 |
1538.344 | | SUBURB::THOMASH | The Devon Dumpling | Mon Aug 10 1992 21:01 | 7 |
1538.345 | | SUBURB::THOMASH | The Devon Dumpling | Mon Aug 10 1992 21:02 | 9 |
1538.346 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Mon Aug 10 1992 21:12 | 6 |
1538.347 | | IEDUX::jon | Whoooooooosh! It's cucumber man! | Mon Aug 10 1992 22:02 | 8 |
1538.348 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Mon Aug 10 1992 22:29 | 6 |
|
Hhhmmmmmm Interesting.
That sounds rather cheap for a 2.0i Frontera.
JN.
|
1538.349 | It's LEASE COST remember | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Tue Aug 11 1992 03:19 | 6 |
| Total LEASE cost, ie you pay 3995+845 every year for three years, then
you give it back.
Greg
|
1538.350 | | NEWOA::SAXBY | Born again reincarnationist | Tue Aug 11 1992 12:43 | 4 |
|
Ummm. Sounds like a waste of money...
Mark
|
1538.351 | | SUBURB::THOMASH | The Devon Dumpling | Tue Aug 11 1992 13:34 | 12 |
1538.352 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Tue Aug 11 1992 14:37 | 8 |
1538.353 | Depends what you want it for ! | TRUCKS::BEATON_S | I Just Look Innocent | Tue Aug 11 1992 17:29 | 13 |
| In terms of off-road ability, the Brands Hatch 4-wheel drive training
centre rate the Frontera very poorly... "got stuck crossing a flat
field" was a quote from one instructor. (Incidentally the centre use
Suzuki Samurai's for their courses... I was amazed where these vehicles
could go... even with the likes of me driving! It would appear the
Suzuki's get slagged off 'cos they can't go round roundabouts over
50mph, but put them in the environment they were originally designed
for and they're 'kin brilliant!)
Regards,
Stephen
|
1538.354 | Want a van? Get a Transit!!! | NEWOA::SAXBY | Born again reincarnationist | Tue Aug 11 1992 17:36 | 8 |
1538.355 | It sure isn't "The Real Thing" though | ESBS01::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Tue Aug 11 1992 18:06 | 27 |
1538.356 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Tue Aug 11 1992 18:07 | 10 |
|
Thanx Mark.
I like the look of the Frontera and does it not have Cavalier
mechanicals ? Reliable in that case. I have read somewhere about
its lack of off road capability.
Has anyone got one ?? How about a report on what you think of it.
JN.
|
1538.357 | Jeff - not looking at Alfa's ? | ESBS01::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Tue Aug 11 1992 18:13 | 20 |
1538.358 | My Heep is great! | VOGON::KAPPLER | Smiths Knoll Automatic - Rising, Good. | Tue Aug 11 1992 18:20 | 24 |
1538.359 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Tue Aug 11 1992 18:46 | 21 |
|
JR.
Doubtful that an Alfa 75 would be available on the lease unless
the dealers still have them in stock as new cars. They have all
been making room for the 155. A 75 is the one I want so a private
purchase may be the answer.
I'm not all that keen on the 155 as yet. Given time and I will
start to like it I suppose. I just don't like FIATS involvement
with ALFA thats all. Given their freedom ALFA are extremely
creative, SZ and the Proteo are examples. FIAT canned the Proteo
despute the fact that it was a more viable production car then
the SZ.!
I am thinking a few months ahead at the moment anyway but I do
like the Frontera 3 door model.
Anyone wanna buy a Guilietta ??
JN.
|
1538.360 | | ESBS01::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Tue Aug 11 1992 18:55 | 13 |
1538.361 | Getting close to renewing mine.... | MIACT::RANKINE | | Fri Aug 14 1992 15:32 | 13 |
| Im new to this notes topic.
As this looks like a live topic, and the past few notes seem to be
alluding to the question I would like to ask. is there a topic, or has
it been answered somewhere before, to this question ? :-
has anyone worked out how much you get from DEC, and how much TAX
rebate you recieve by opting out of the DEC car lease scheme ??
Is it worth starting a new topic for this query ?
thanks in advance,
Paul
|
1538.362 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Fri Aug 14 1992 16:10 | 6 |
1538.363 | Get the tax code up.. | MIACT::RANKINE | | Fri Aug 14 1992 16:20 | 6 |
1538.364 | | COMICS::WEGG | Working towards a better tomato | Fri Aug 14 1992 16:28 | 27 |
|
You'd be forgiven for missing this in the 1.4 deisel topic...
================================================================================
Note 1765.11 1.4 diesel turbo... 11 of 23
SUBURB::THOMASH "The Devon Dumpling" 29 lines 13-MAY-1992 16:27
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Okay,
less than 2,500 miles on basic rate tax(25%) for zero car
taxable hit is 2750x1.5 = 4125 at 25% is 1031.25
you now take the cash
3000 less 25% = 2250 extra in pay packet
tax code is adjusted back so you no longer pay 1031.25
Bottom line
you used to pay 1031.25,
you now get 2250.00
you are 3281.25 better off = 273.43 a month
Heather - who takes the money
|
1538.365 | | MAJORS::ALFORD | lying Shipwrecked and comatose... | Fri Aug 14 1992 17:30 | 6 |
1538.366 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Diet free Caffeine Coke | Fri Aug 14 1992 18:02 | 10 |
1538.367 | ZX Aura Turbo Diesel quote | WAYOUT::LOAT | Bored....Bored....BORED!!!! | Mon Aug 17 1992 14:10 | 27 |
1538.368 | ZX Advantage TD ? | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Achey Breakey Back | Mon Aug 17 1992 16:28 | 9 |
| Re: ZX turbo diesel.
Steve, I've been thinking about this. It might worth putting a quote in
for the ADVANTAGE TD rather than the AURA. Its several hundred pounds
cheaper (It lacks the better seat material and alloys, but still has
all the electric goodies). You might even get an alarm and met paint
zero cost.
Roy
|
1538.369 | Buy your lease car? | WOTVAX::MEAKINS | Clive Meakins | Mon Aug 17 1992 16:48 | 2 |
| Anyone know what prices cars at end of lease are being offered to their
drivers for? Are they going for auction prices or top dealer prices?
|
1538.370 | | MAJORS::ALFORD | lying Shipwrecked and comatose... | Mon Aug 17 1992 18:10 | 5 |
|
Re: .369
*IF* you can find out which auction your car is going to, you will mostly get
it at a considerably cheaper price than the prices offered by PHH/HERTZ
|
1538.371 | | MAJORS::ALFORD | lying Shipwrecked and comatose... | Mon Aug 17 1992 18:10 | 4 |
|
Re: .366
It is what I was told by fleet. Take it up with them, I'm not interested.
|
1538.372 | Too dear for me mate | SEDSWS::OXFORD | who's pulling my Pilsner | Mon Aug 17 1992 20:41 | 13 |
| re.369
I was given a price on my car last week..
Escort RS Turbo
84000 miles
reg April '90
price #4250.
I asked a freind of mine who's in the buissness if he wanted it or thought
it was a good buy, he said no trader would pay more than #3800 for it,
they would expect to pay about #3500, and would put it up for around
the #5995 mark. So all in all not a good buy.
|
1538.373 | | WAYOUT::LOAT | Bored....Bored....BORED!!!! | Mon Aug 17 1992 22:26 | 12 |
1538.374 | BMW Prices | SEDOAS::MILLER_N | | Mon Aug 17 1992 22:52 | 20 |
| Old quotes for new BMW Coupes
Car fleet gave me these fig's which have now mostly expired but may be
of interest to a few of you if you're thinking about going for a
quality machine:-
All Coupe-
318iS Ai/c, Fogs 2,373.00
318iS Basic, fogs, 1,991.00
318iS Elec Sun, fogs 2,168.00
318iS Leather, Elec SR, Fogs 2,480.00
320i No extras 2,672.00
Basic price can be used and then usual BMW extras attached (see VTX
list).
Regards
Nigel
|
1538.375 | SEXY! | WELCLU::DREW | | Tue Aug 18 1992 01:01 | 6 |
| has anyone had a recent quote for a Golf VR6?
.... a guy can dream cant he?
Graham.
|
1538.376 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Achey Breakey Back | Tue Aug 18 1992 13:23 | 9 |
1538.377 | | SUBURB::THOMASH | The Devon Dumpling | Tue Aug 18 1992 14:49 | 21 |
1538.378 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | I've got a special purpose | Tue Aug 18 1992 17:31 | 4 |
| Has anyone else noticed the Nissan 2.0 SLX quote on VTX has been
downgraded to a 1.6 with the same lease cost?
Ian
|
1538.379 | Quote | YUPPY::RAVEN | | Tue Aug 18 1992 17:48 | 6 |
| Having just read a report on a Ford Escort Cosworth in a car rag. , just
being morbid and wondering what the lease cost of such a street racing
machine would be .....insurance and all that ...
KR
|
1538.380 | Escort Cossie piccy | BELFST::FLANAGAN | Sir your shrubbery attacked me | Tue Aug 18 1992 18:02 | 5 |
| The pic on the cover of CAR magazine is super. Pity about the
"headline" splashed over the cover: "SHOCK NEWS - Ford make good fast
cars at last" (or very similar) :-)
Gary.
|
1538.381 | | COMICS::WEGG | Working towards a better tomato | Tue Aug 18 1992 18:08 | 8 |
1538.382 | Insurance for a Cossie! | NEWOA::SAXBY | Born again reincarnationist | Tue Aug 18 1992 18:11 | 16 |
1538.383 | I bet they thought nobody would notice.. | PLUNDR::LOWEG | Don't believe a word | Tue Aug 18 1992 19:10 | 11 |
|
re .378
I noticed that.. It made me feel a bit better after I got my 1.6
Primera for 340. Its still a bargain and I wonder how many people
managed to get their orders in for this and if they will be honoured.
Again this is an example of Fleet breaking their own guidelines of once
a quote appears on the preferred list it stays there for a year..
Gary..
|
1538.384 | more actual quotes | FILTON::SEARLE_A | | Fri Aug 21 1992 18:43 | 17 |
|
I just recieved these quotes if anyone is interested:-
Mitsubishi Galant 1800 GLS with diamond option pack and
metallic paint 728 pounds (quote no. 12461)
BMW 316i Touring with front fogs and manual sunroof
1285 pounds (quote no. 12463)
BMW 316i Touring with front fogs
1128 pounds (quote no. 12462)
Alan S.
|
1538.385 | Three quotes allowed? | CMBOOT::DELANYS | | Fri Aug 21 1992 19:24 | 7 |
| Thanks for the info.
How come you managed to submit three quotes? Have they relaxed the
rules now, or can you submit three by special request?
Stephen
|
1538.386 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Achey Breakey Back | Fri Aug 21 1992 19:35 | 13 |
| vtx states you can have 2 quotes.
I understand that you allowed only 2 quotes being processed at the same
time.
There is nothing to stop you submitting further quotes if you don't
like the first two you've sent in.
That is how I've always understood the process through comments in this
conference.
Roy
|
1538.387 | | LARVAE::NEALE_A | Alison Neale | Fri Aug 21 1992 19:45 | 11 |
1538.388 | Any Cossies going Cheap !!! | SEDOAS::BRISTOW_A | | Tue Sep 01 1992 15:09 | 12 |
| Has anybody, does anybody know of recent quotes for a Sierra Cosworth
(with/without leather interior).
Just wondering whether the price has come down since Ford cut their
prices by 6-7K on this car.
Also, talk of another 10% price cut to shift the last few remaining 500
Cosworths.!!!!
So, I await the bargain quote info.....!!!
Andy
|
1538.389 | Honda Civic VTi | WOTVAX::LIVINGSTONEM | | Tue Sep 01 1992 15:12 | 10 |
|
Recent Quote.....
Honda Civic Vti ........1192 pounds
Appears a bit expensive but after a test drive seemed bargain of the
year.
Martin
|
1538.390 | Renault 19 16v Convertible. | CYCLIC::TURNER | | Tue Sep 01 1992 16:59 | 12 |
1538.391 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Achey Breakey Back | Tue Sep 01 1992 17:07 | 5 |
1538.392 | | CYCLIC::TURNER | | Tue Sep 01 1992 17:34 | 5 |
| Re -1
Yes if I can get hold of one that has the manual sunroof.
Barrie.
|
1538.393 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | I've got a special purpose | Wed Sep 02 1992 18:32 | 7 |
| re .390
What about the normal R19 cabrio (8 valve). Did anyone get a quote on
one of those?
Ian
|
1538.394 | Oh well, they could have got the sums wrong! | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Life's a One Take Movie | Mon Sep 07 1992 12:33 | 14 |
| For curiosity and with a vague hankering if the price was "reasonable" I
asked for a quote on a TVR Griffiths 4.0, and the answer is.......
Driver Price #6961 (only extra is an alarm)
After my allowance, after deducting tax and after adding the extra
taxable benefit, that comes out at around #338/month out of my pocket,
think I'll stick to the 318is!
Paul
|
1538.395 | primera | NEEPS::BRUCE | Adrian Bruce | Mon Sep 07 1992 17:00 | 10 |
|
I called fleet last week about the primera quote and was told that
there had been a mistake and the price should always have read for a
1.6 and not a 2.0!
I guess I was to slow in getting my order in, has anyone got a quote
for a 2.0 slx with or without any extra's?
Adrian
|
1538.396 | I'm still waiting. | SEDSWS::OXFORD | who's pulling my Pilsner | Tue Sep 08 1992 15:00 | 7 |
|
Has anybody had a recent quote for a Clio 16v, RS1800 or Sunny GTi ?
Nick.
|
1538.397 | | CURRNT::PAYNE_A | Just between you and me, ... | Tue Sep 08 1992 15:25 | 1 |
| clio quote in 1538.315, couple of months old
|
1538.398 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Achey Breakey Back | Tue Sep 08 1992 15:43 | 7 |
1538.399 | Clio 16V | CYCLIC::TURNER | | Tue Sep 08 1992 15:49 | 7 |
|
Nick,
I'm expecting a quote for the Clio 16V any day now. Ill post it as soon as it
arrives.
Barrie.
|
1538.400 | Clio 16V Quote | CYCLIC::TURNER | | Wed Sep 09 1992 13:49 | 14 |
1538.401 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Achey Breakey Back | Wed Sep 09 1992 15:47 | 5 |
1538.402 | | CYCLIC::TURNER | | Wed Sep 09 1992 15:58 | 4 |
| I thought that too. Fleet are currently talking to the leasing companies to
find out why.
Barrie.
|
1538.403 | Clio 16V quote | ARRODS::WINTERSS | Sean WInter - London TCC | Wed Sep 09 1992 19:54 | 5 |
|
My Clio quote was $98 for black (which seems to be metallic charcoal grey)
Don't you just love the consistancy of fleet....
Sean
|
1538.404 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Achey Breakey Back | Wed Sep 09 1992 19:58 | 6 |
1538.405 | Mmmmh yes | ARRODS::WINTERSS | Sean WInter - London TCC | Thu Sep 10 1992 01:16 | 9 |
| re:-1
But they let PHH and Hertz vary upto #600 over the lifetime of the
lease. WHY ?
What would happen if we tried that with our customers....They go
somewhere else. Fleet are paid to get the best deal for us.
SEan
|
1538.406 | BMW Quotation | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Life's a One Take Movie | Thu Sep 10 1992 02:19 | 10 |
| Quote for BMW 318is
Options Metallic, Elec Sun Roof, F Fog, Htd Mirrors/locks
BMW alarm, Sony RDS Radio
Driver Price #2619
My order is in!
Paul
|
1538.407 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Achey Breakey Back | Thu Sep 10 1992 11:48 | 16 |
| re: .405
The way I see it is that Fleet simply send us the best of the two
quotes with the attitude of take it or leave it. Digital offer us a
reasonable car as standard (Cav 1.6L) but we can choose any car we like
if we want to pay the extra.
The secret is to recognise a good quote when you see it and go for it.
Timing is important as well (or it used to be) as the allowance
increases from time to time making the quotes lower for a period.
It could be that Barrie is unfortunate and that the lease cost for the
Clio has gone up slightly since the last quote for this model was
submitted. Its definately worth following up though.
Roy
|
1538.408 | How do they do it ? | SEDSWS::OXFORD | who's pulling my Pilsner | Thu Sep 10 1992 19:04 | 38 |
| re. -1
Maybe it is the best of the 2 quotes but why do they differ so much,
surely Hertz and P.H.H. dont change the leases costs of their cars
every week, take for instance the trouble i've had with carfleet trying
to quote/order a new car.
I ordered the 19 16V from the preffered list, with options #915.
Then i recieved the standard mail telling me the quoted price was #857,
so i phoned carfleet and asked is the car being ordered or do i have to
submit an order form, after all it was an order i put and not a
quotation, they said the car has been ordered and i will be paying #857.
Then they realised that the price for metallic paint had been left
off, so they were going to cancel my order, requote for the car, and
this time add the cost of metallic paint. My question was why couldn't
they just add the price of metallic paint to the price and leave the
order in, but they couldn't do that , they had to requote, wasting
time, effort, and money, as my cars mileage is still climbing over the
60,000 mark.
The idea of fleet quoting every time an order is placed is to get fleet
the best price, but what about us ?, why have the preffered list if
they are going to requote for every order ?,and if they get a good deal
is that price passed on to us, i bet it would be if the price went up
above that on the prefered list. So where do these numbers come from,
are fleet making money out of us, i bet the price we are given is not
the Hertz/P.H.H. price plus the insurance element, i expect there is a
little bit of pocket money for carfleet there somewhere.
Anyway my quote has come back again, and this time it has the added price
of metallic paint, back up to #915 again, it was ordered on Monday so
now i'll have to wait for an e.t.a. again.
After all that if its true about fleet paying 20p per mile over 60,000
why the hell are they quibbling over 50 quid for metallic paint when my
car has done 86,000 miles at the moment and its still going up, it will
cost them a fortune, i would have thought that they would be pleased to
see the back of it and save themselves some money.
Nick.
|
1538.409 | | VOGON::KAPPLER | Dover, Rising more slowly, Good | Thu Sep 10 1992 19:33 | 26 |
| Possible scenario:
Quote 1:
PHH say X pounds
Hertz say X+500 pounds
PHH Quote is posted here.
Quote 2:
PHH say "We don't want to Quote"
Hertz say X+500ish pounds
Hertz Quote is posted here
Result:
500+ Pounds quote disparity.
(N.B. Hertz refused to quote for my Rover variant).
JK
|
1538.410 | Totally hacked off with the lack of profesionalism at car fleet | NEEPS::IRVINE | Screamin' Demon from Mothercare! | Thu Sep 10 1992 20:49 | 18 |
| What I still don't under stand is why....
when I place an order for and Audi 80 no extras... form the
preferred car list, they tell me 4 weeks later that the oreder has now
been placed, but they cannot tell me a delivery time within 2 weeks of
the order being placed!
The whole point in my order being placed in AUG for NOV 3 delivery was
to get the car before XMAS.... after speaking to Audi, who say to
guarentee delivery at the requested date, the order should be placed
before 3rd week of AUG!... I could have waited until sep to order, and
would probably got a free sunroof thrown in for good measure, but
rather than wait, I placed the order 1st week in AUG.
I have said it before, and I shall say it again.... it's time to
vendorise CAR FLEET!
Bob
|
1538.411 | TOYOTA MR2 GT quote FYI | BLKPUD::WARNESG | | Fri Sep 11 1992 18:01 | 17 |
1538.412 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Achey Breakey Back | Fri Sep 11 1992 19:16 | 3 |
| Nice one Graham !
Roy
|
1538.413 | Here we go again.... | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Mon Sep 14 1992 23:58 | 7 |
| Oh my, the fleet gamble starts again, even after the new 'revised'
list!
So much know depends on when you change, if your wise to get a quote
yourself, and if your luckyy.
Greg
|
1538.414 | vendorise them or shoot them, whatevers cheapest !! | MIACT::RANKINE | | Tue Sep 15 1992 20:40 | 10 |
1538.415 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | Maintain the rigidity | Tue Sep 15 1992 21:07 | 7 |
| There is little point in moaning about it in here. These are all valid
points, but you (all) are preaching ot the converted in here. Escalate
it through the management chain, right up to the BoM member responsible
for "Fleet'. Cost cutting is a serious business these days. How many
jobs has inertia cost so far?
Laurie.
|
1538.416 | | ROTHKO::PARRY | Trevor Parry | Thu Sep 17 1992 16:59 | 9 |
| > i think the cost is 17p per mile over the 60,000 mile limit..PHH
> enforce this, Hertz are a bit mor easy going. Any additional charges
> re excess mileage will come out your cost centre..so any p*****ng about
What's the source of this information ?
Fleet told us that the excess mileage charge does not come out of your
cost centre.
tp
|
1538.417 | | BRUMMY::MARTIN::BELL | Martin Bell, TCC, Birmingham UK | Thu Sep 17 1992 18:53 | 10 |
| Who cares where it comes from!
It comes from Digital, which means your and my pay rise (or even job!)
Please can those, directly involved, escalate this as far as possible (even
to the world-wide SUGGESTION BOX).
This wastage impacts us all.
mb
|
1538.418 | BMW 318i Coupe Price | SEDOAS::MILLER_N | | Mon Sep 21 1992 16:51 | 17 |
|
BMW 318iS Coupe
60,000 miles
Metalic Paint, Elec S/Roof, 225 Alloys, Clock & Temp display, Halogen
f/fogs, Interior Light Package, Steering Col Adjust, Air Microfilter.
(No Radio)
Driver Costs - 2,496.00
Regards
Nigel
|
1538.419 | | EBYGUM::WILLIAMSH | | Tue Sep 22 1992 11:29 | 9 |
1538.420 | Moved by co mod | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Achey Breakey Back | Wed Sep 23 1992 16:05 | 20 |
| <<< MARVIN::DISK$TOOLS:[NOTES$LIBRARY]CARS_UK.NOTE;1 >>>
-< CARS_UK conference >-
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Note 1897.0 ASTRA 1.4LS QUOTES 1 reply
EARO::SPINDLERM 6 lines 23-SEP-1992 10:34
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Has anyone quoted for an ASTRA GSI 1.4ls recently? I would appreciate it
if you could let me know when you quote was placed and the cost
Thanks
Matthew
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Whoops Make that an ASTRA 1.4LS
Sorry!
|
1538.421 | Fronterra Sport Quote Please? | WELCLU::YOUNG | | Tue Sep 29 1992 17:17 | 6 |
| Has anybody got a recent quote for a vauxhall Fronterra Sport with no
options. I've been told they're about #600 but I've not seen one in
here.
thanks
Richard
|
1538.422 | Carina E GTI & Renault 19 16v | SEDSWS::BARRETT | CAN YOU JOY RIDE ON THE M25? | Thu Oct 01 1992 19:58 | 10 |
1538.423 | Celica price? | LARVAE::WHITE_D | | Fri Oct 02 1992 13:53 | 7 |
|
Does anyone have a quote or an estimate of the driver price for a
Toyota Celica?.
thanks
Dave
|
1538.424 | Where is evrybody ??? | SEDOAS::BRISTOW_A | | Thu Oct 15 1992 14:51 | 6 |
| This note seems to have died...
Has anybody been receiving quotes in the last few weeks, or is
everybody ordering directly from the PCL.
Andy
|
1538.425 | Carina E quote (moved by mod) | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Tue Oct 20 1992 18:28 | 9 |
1538.426 | BMW 318is Coupe | CHEFS::SPYBEYA | Andrew Spybey | Wed Oct 21 1992 16:53 | 11 |
1538.427 | | YUPPY::CARTER | Windows on the world... | Tue Oct 27 1992 22:29 | 10 |
| Any recent quotes for the following:
1.8/2.0 Cavalier LS
Mitsubishi Colt (GTI?)
ZX 2.0 Volcane
Astra 1.6GLSi
Xtine
|
1538.428 | | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Wed Oct 28 1992 00:02 | 1 |
| You won't get a quote for the ZX Volcane as it's on VTX
|
1538.429 | ZX Volcane is old model.... | HEWIE::RUSSELL | So, who did vote for the Tories? | Mon Nov 02 1992 16:19 | 13 |
| re .428;
The ZX Volcane on the standard list is the obsolete 1.9 model; it was replaced
in the summer with the 2.0i engine, with a cat as standard.
Fleet know this, as a colleague of mine tried to order a Volcane about three
months ago, and was told to submit a quote, as the 1.9 was no longer available.
He didn't care whether it was a 1.9 or a 2.0.
Interestingly enough, the 2.0 with a cat is cheaper than the 1.9 with the
optional cat.... I wonder what price it will eventually come in at?
Peter.
|
1538.430 | 16v | EEMELI::HAUTALA | Cats In The Cradle | Mon Nov 02 1992 16:55 | 5 |
|
ZX Volcane will appear also with 16v 2.0 machine (150 hp)
Hannu
|
1538.431 | | TASTY::JEFFERY | Dan Quayle : Just say noe | Mon Nov 02 1992 17:23 | 1 |
| But will it be available in 5 door?
|
1538.432 | ZX Prices | YUPPY::ELLAWAY | Martin Ellaway@hhl | Mon Nov 02 1992 20:35 | 7 |
| Taken from the Auto express price list:
ZX 2.0 Volcane 3 dr 12,795
ZX 2.0 Volcane 5 dr 13,175
ZX 2.0 16V 3 dr 14,500
Regards Martin
|
1538.433 | ZX Volcane non-preferred prices | SEDSWS::CRAKER | Richard Craker, USM | Tue Nov 03 1992 20:41 | 20 |
1538.434 | Golf Gti | IOSG::SHOVE | Dave Shove -- REO-D/3C | Wed Nov 04 1992 14:19 | 38 |
1538.435 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Wed Nov 04 1992 15:02 | 4 |
| Maybe VW has had to increase prices since the pound's collapse
I know Merc and BMW were thinking about it.
Ian
|
1538.436 | Time Soon Come, Please Wait!! | WELCLU::MANRO | | Thu Nov 05 1992 13:47 | 15 |
| I sent an order form for a Golf GTI with mettalic paint as the only
extra. All of which is on VTX and worked out that i would get the car
for 764 pounds. Of course Car Fleet had other ideas and sent off for a
quote to the leasing companies and i got a quote for 878 pounds. Of
course i complained bitterly that i was only going to pay the figure
that i see on VTX and no more (less i wouldn't mind!!). It took 2
months of phone calls and finally intervention from my manager to convince Car
Fleet that i must get the car for the price displayed on VTX. Of
course, in the meantime my current car has gone over the 3 year/60,000
mile lease and DEC(?) are probably paying Hertz extra Wonga for the
priviledge......AND i still haven't got a delivery date yet!!!!
Is it me, or do others have these sort of (minor) problems with Car
Fleet?
Sheleen.
|
1538.437 | | YUPPY::FOX | wen balus go bugarup yu mas rausin fols tits | Thu Nov 05 1992 14:29 | 3 |
| Eeek. I've just submitted an identical order to the one described in
.436 ...
|
1538.438 | Money saving idea | WELCLU::YOUNG | | Thu Nov 05 1992 15:03 | 7 |
| RE:.436
If your car is over its lease and it is obviously going to be some time
before it is replaced, had you considered taking one of the cars on the
takeover list for the time being, you save yourself and Digital money.
Richard
|
1538.439 | | WELCLU::MANRO | | Thu Nov 05 1992 16:25 | 15 |
| re: .437
Make sure that you pay the amount quoted on vtx, and not one that the
leasing companies come up with.
re: .438
How will your suggestion save me money? Also can you imagine the
administrative nightmare that will take place if i follow your
suggestion? After all Car Fleet cannot even get a quote correctly off
their own list! What happens if i take over a car and then get a
delivery date of a fortnight later? Do you understand what i'm trying
to say? I don't mind doing what you said to save the company money but
i don't see why i should endure so many hassles and headaches due to
somebody elses mistakes or incompitence.
|
1538.440 | | COMICS::WEGG | Some hard boiled eggs and some nuts. | Thu Nov 05 1992 16:29 | 18 |
1538.441 | re:.439&.440 | WELCLU::YOUNG | | Thu Nov 05 1992 16:47 | 19 |
|
RE: .439
It could save you money because you could (subject to avail) find a
similar car to what you want and get a discount on it. If you find a
car you fancy that is a bargain you can take it for 3 months (or till
end of lease if you really want) and delay delivery on your new one.
RE: .440
Point taken,.....nuff said,...you got me there, but the theory is good!
I don't see why anyone should take a car they don't want, if you wanted
a largish estate car presumably you have a reason ie.carrying large
loads, and a rover 214 is impracticle.
The system is supposed to work if it doesn't work when you try to
implement it KICK-SOME-ASS
before anyone says it no I'm nnot from car fleet!
Richard
|
1538.442 | | COMICS::WEGG | Some hard boiled eggs and some nuts. | Thu Nov 05 1992 16:54 | 9 |
1538.443 | Im not car fleet either .. | MIACT::RANKINE | | Thu Nov 05 1992 17:00 | 19 |
| Re a few back.
Of the 2 leasing companies we use, Hertz is the more lenient. Im
currently over the 60k miles on my present car, and was worried about
the cost of being over the limit. I was told that Hertz dont charge
for this but PHH charge 17p per mile. Also there is a 3 month 'window'
with Hertz which allows Digital to return the car 3 months earlier than
agreed, if the car is over the 60k mile limit...PHH do not have such a
facility.
recently I was refused details of a car on the take-over list, because
someone is test driving it...SO WHAT ??. Do I now have to wait a few
days, request the info again, to find out about a car..just coz its
being test driven, doesnt mean that its not available.. Also if 2
people, or more, are interested in the same car it should go to the
person who want to take the car for the long term, as the admin costs
for changing cars must cost us something....so perhaps 1st come, 1st
served isnt cost effective ??
Paul
|
1538.444 | | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Thu Nov 05 1992 17:14 | 7 |
| re .443
I was told that PHH do have the 3 month window, hence I started my
order process earlier 'cos my PHH car was approaching it's 60,000
deadline.
Greg
|
1538.445 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Thu Nov 05 1992 17:27 | 8 |
| This is the first I've heard of a 3 month window.
For the last 3 years I've always understood it was a 2 month
window either side of the expiry date.
This is for Hertz. I have no experience with PHH.
Roy
|
1538.446 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Thu Nov 05 1992 17:30 | 6 |
| According the person I spoke to at fleet, PHH has a 2 month window, Hertz
has a 3 month window.
Ian
|
1538.447 | | YUPPY::FOX | wen balus go bugarup yu mas rausin fols tits | Thu Nov 05 1992 18:09 | 4 |
| Re .442 (frequency of staff changes)
Come back Pam Dormer ..... we love you really!
|
1538.448 | | TASTY::JEFFERY | Dan Quayle : Just say noe | Thu Nov 05 1992 20:05 | 6 |
1538.449 | Cavalier SRi 16V h/b - $1306 | SHIPS::WOOD_J | John Wood @SBP, Alpha/VMS porting | Wed Nov 11 1992 12:34 | 10 |
1538.450 | | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Wed Nov 11 1992 16:03 | 8 |
| re .449
JOHN, CHECK OUT VTX BEFORE YOU ORDER:
094 CAVALIER 2.0 SRi 4/5 DR 1,035
Greg
|
1538.451 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Wed Nov 11 1992 17:07 | 5 |
| re: last
.449 refers to the 16v model (didn't know there was such a beast).
Roy
|
1538.452 | VW GOLF GL DIESEL | BELFST::HILLIS | Exiled on main Street | Wed Nov 11 1992 19:45 | 10 |
1538.453 | oops forgot to mention | BELFST::HILLIS | Exiled on main Street | Wed Nov 11 1992 19:47 | 3 |
|
Only extra was metallic paint
|
1538.454 | Cavalier SRi 16V == old GSi | HEWIE::RUSSELL | So, who did vote for the Tories? | Wed Nov 11 1992 20:08 | 6 |
| In the new '92 price lists, the Cavalier GSi is no longer there; I guess the
16V SRi replaces it. Oh, and this means all the Cavalier models on the
standard car list are no longer available, as L is now LS and GL is now
GLS and so on.
Peter.
|
1538.455 | More for less | BRUMMY::MARTIN::BELL | Martin Bell, TCC, Birmingham UK | Wed Nov 11 1992 20:32 | 9 |
1538.456 | re. changing Cavalier variants | SHIPS::WOOD_J | John Wood @SBP, Alpha/VMS porting | Wed Nov 11 1992 21:17 | 16 |
| re. last few about Vauxhall Cavaliers
Vauxhall have changed the Cavalier range for 1993, as pointed out in
the last few replies (i.e. "L" variant is now "LS", "GL" now "GLS").
The SRi was a 130hp car, but for '93 has the 115hp catalyzed (sp?)
engine, same as a 2.0L (or LS now), GLS, CD, etc. The GSi has been replaced
by the Cavalier Turbo; a 200hp turbo-charged, 6-speed machine.
So I guess Vauxhall have put the GSi's 2.0 16-valve engine into the SRi
to create an SRi 16V with 150hp, to "fill the gap" between models.
Just to confuse things even more, there'll be a 6-cylinder Cavalier
along soon...
See note 1934 for more info about Cavailer changes, and impact on Preferred
Car List.
|
1538.457 | Happy at last | WELCLU::MANRO | | Fri Nov 13 1992 17:45 | 9 |
|
Took delivery of my Golf GTi this morning. It's a beauty!! Seems a lot
better than my old one (which i have NO complaints about). The power
steering is a great help.
BTW, Car fleet got their act together in the end and i only paid the
VTX price for the car (See earlier note on ****-up). I think it's worth
every penny.
sheleen.
|
1538.458 | BMW320i Copupe quote | CHEFS::GORDONI | | Tue Nov 17 1992 15:42 | 4 |
| Quote today ( probably before reduction in Car Tax etc. ) for BMW 320i
Coupe with VERY few options ( armrest - no radio ) was 2703 over
30months/60,000 miles ?????
|
1538.459 | Alfa 155? | SUBURB::DELANYS | | Tue Nov 17 1992 15:58 | 9 |
| Has anyone had a quote on an Alfa 155 2.0 Twin Spark? (Or any other
155)...
I'm just interested in whether Alfas are a realistic proposition on the
scheme, or whether their resale is so dire that they're out of
consideration.
Stephen
|
1538.460 | CAV 16v & ROVER COUPE | SEDSWS::GRIFFITHS | | Wed Nov 18 1992 16:51 | 21 |
|
QUOTE FOR CAVALIER SRI 16V
PRICE $ 1359
LEASE 24 Months /60000
QUOTE 13480
EXTRAS Metalic paint EXPIRES 12th dec 1992
QUOTE FOR ROVER 220 COUPE
PRICE #2765 !!!!!!
LEASE 24 Months /60000
QUOTE 13481
EXTRAS none EXPIRES 13 th dec 1992
Looks as if it is the Cavalier for me
Tim
|
1538.461 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Wed Nov 18 1992 18:46 | 4 |
| If that was the non-turbo 220, the price is outrageous. It's only a 16k
car!!!
Ian
|
1538.462 | Mazda MX5 | LARVAE::DRSD15::RICHARDS | Warragul | Wed Nov 18 1992 19:01 | 12 |
1538.463 | re .461 | SEDSWS::GRIFFITHS | | Thu Nov 19 1992 16:23 | 7 |
| RE .461
The price was for a 220 turbo coupe I have been told the price is high
because it is a group 20 insurance
never mind Dream on!!!
Tim
|
1538.464 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Thu Nov 19 1992 16:59 | 3 |
| Thank god for that!!! Maybe I can get my 216 after all.
Ian
|
1538.465 | Sounds good price to me | CMBOOT::DELANYS | | Thu Nov 19 1992 18:55 | 14 |
| Actually, I thought 2700 was a pretty good price...
Isn't that almost exactly the same as a BMW 320i coupe, with
performance and handling to blow said car into the weeds (although I
grant you the BMW has a bit more cred)?
Has anyone had a quote for a Subaru Legacy quad-cam 2.0 turbo (either
saloon or estate)? I've seen the odd one or two kicking around DEC
office car parks, obviously as lease cars, and I just wondered what
ballpark they're in.
cheers,
Stephen
|
1538.466 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Thu Nov 19 1992 19:51 | 7 |
| It's possibly a fair price for the turbo, but the original quote didn't mention
this. However, when you think the market price is the same as the MR2 T bar
(18k), then 2700 is a bit steep. I know of people who've picked up MR2s
for 1800.
Ian
|
1538.467 | fast estates | LARVAE::MADELEY_T | I'm just F.I.N.E. | Sun Nov 22 1992 15:53 | 10 |
| Stephen,
These Subaru Legacy turbo estates are quite wild machines - I was
following one a couple of weeks back and had trouble keeping up with it
in my R19 16V. If I ever have to go for an estate then this machine
would come high up my list.
Cheers,
Tony.
|
1538.468 | | VANGA::KERRELL | Dave Kerrell @REO 830-2279 | Mon Nov 23 1992 12:09 | 6 |
| re.467:
I would expect the handling to be vastly superior to the R19 but were you pushed
on acceleration as well?
Dave.
|
1538.469 | Subaru Legacy Turbo is fast | EEMELI::HAUTALA | Cats In The Cradle | Mon Nov 23 1992 12:50 | 6 |
|
According to specs Subaru Legacy Turbo is about 1,5 seconds faster
from 0 to 60 than R19 16v.
Hannu
|
1538.470 | These Subaru's are FAST | WOTVAX::MEAKINS | Clive Meakins | Mon Nov 23 1992 13:57 | 4 |
| Having travelled in a R19 16V and the Subaru Legacy Turbo, I'd be
surprised if the R19 had a chance (good as it is). It's competing with
4WD and 2 lires 16V and Turbo. It's not as quick as a Cossie, but
close enough for me.
|
1538.471 | Q-CAR!!!!!!!!!!! | BEANO::MCSKEANE | Stairs get me down!!!!!!! | Mon Nov 23 1992 15:48 | 6 |
|
According to the Sabaru ad, the 0-60 is quoted at 6.2 and is quoted at
around 197 BHP
POL.
|
1538.472 | Figures from Autocar & Motor | DUBSWS::KANE_BF | The clot, thickens... | Mon Nov 23 1992 15:58 | 7 |
|
It's more Astra GSi pace, with 0-60 & 30-70 in the very low sevens.
However you'd probably have to thrash the Astra as the Sub' would have
more in-gear grunt.
Mike
|
1538.473 | Golf GTI | YUPPY::FOX | A Friend of Taufa'ahau Tupou IV | Mon Nov 23 1992 16:11 | 30 |
1538.474 | Vauxhall Cavalier 2.0 LSi 5dr | HEWIE::RUSSELL | So, who did vote for the Tories? | Thu Nov 26 1992 13:17 | 3 |
1538.475 | Citroen ZX Volcane 2.0i 5 door | HEWIE::RUSSELL | So, who did vote for the Tories? | Thu Nov 26 1992 13:20 | 3 |
1538.476 | Order from another's quote ? | PGREEN::PTHOMAS | | Mon Nov 30 1992 19:39 | 6 |
|
Can anyone use the quotes that are placed in here or do you actually
have to get your own quotes to order from ?
Pete
|
1538.477 | Valid for the requester.. | KERNEL::LOANE | Comfortably numb!! | Mon Nov 30 1992 20:33 | 9 |
| > Can anyone use the quotes that are placed in here or do you actually
> have to get your own quotes to order from ?
I've been through this loop!! The quote is valid for the person
requesting it for the length of time on the quote (4 weeks I
believe). Anyone else trying to use that quote can only use it
within the first 3-5 days "in case the price of the car goes up"....
....make sense?? Yea, I thought so too!!
|
1538.478 | 300 quid a year for a radio aerial !! | KERNEL::FLANDERSD | I remember the look in your eye | Wed Dec 09 1992 12:54 | 19 |
1538.479 | I won't be taking up THIS offer either | KERNEL::FLANDERSD | I remember the look in your eye | Wed Dec 09 1992 12:55 | 18 |
1538.480 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Wed Dec 09 1992 15:06 | 5 |
| I'd forget the roof mounted aerial and go for the GTi on VTX with metallic paint
for under 800 quid.
Ian
|
1538.481 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Wed Dec 09 1992 15:27 | 3 |
| Re: last
I thought this was pretty obvious from .478's title !
|
1538.482 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Wed Dec 09 1992 16:01 | 1 |
| Yeh - I tend not to read the title's that much!
|
1538.483 | | YUPPY::FOX | A Friend of Taufa'ahau Tupou IV | Wed Dec 09 1992 18:19 | 8 |
| Re last few.
Don't specify pearlescent paint on your order form otherwise it'll get
rejected (even though it costs the same as Metallic Paint and is also
referred to in the brochure as Metallic Paint).
Car Fleet get the "Jobs Worth" award for nitpicking on that one!
|
1538.484 | What can i do? | BAHTAT::DODD | | Fri Dec 11 1992 17:47 | 18 |
| Vauxhall do Pearlescent and metallic!
My problem is how can I get a quote for a car with no more extras?
To expand:-
Vauxhall cars seem to be cheaper now than the preferred list eg a 16v
Calibra with Leather trim is 400 quid less than the preferred list.
I would like a Carlton but all the extras are on the preferred list as
options so whatever quote I put in will be met at the price on the
list. In other words I can't get an up to date price - more or less.
I asked whether they requote as an order is received and was told no -
a standard car costs what it says regardless of what a "new" quote
might be.
Help
Andrew
|
1538.485 | Theres always a way. | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Fri Dec 11 1992 17:58 | 10 |
1538.486 | | BEANO::WEGG | Some hard boiled eggs and some nuts. | Fri Dec 11 1992 18:52 | 5 |
| A set of locking wheel nuts is a good cheap one, (or maybe just one
locking wheel nut?).
I.
|
1538.487 | | EBYGUM::WILLIAMSH | | Fri Dec 11 1992 19:53 | 2 |
| Mudflaps?
|
1538.488 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Fri Dec 11 1992 20:02 | 5 |
| The fresh air filter on Vauxhalls is a 15 pound option - on the Calibra
anyway!
Ian
|
1538.489 | Are new cavs on preferred list now? | YUPPY::CARTER | Windows on the world... | Mon Dec 14 1992 11:35 | 9 |
| Re.. a few back
The price for a Vauxhall Cavalier 2.0i
When you say "on a standard quote" what does that mean? Is there more
than one type of quote - or is this now on the preferred list?
Xtine
|
1538.490 | | LARVAE::JORDAN | Chris Jordan, TSE - Technology Services, End-User Computing | Mon Dec 14 1992 16:13 | 11 |
| Specifying a towbar - they are not on the list of optional extras.
By the way.... aren't ALL cars cheaper now than the scheme?? With the
5% Car Tax removed they should be.... until early next year when
everyon seems to be putting their prices up to cover the pound
fluctuations.
If I forget to say I am buying a company car, the garages all tell me
"Order before Christmas - and avoid the new year rises". If I say its a
company car they all say "Thers is no expected changes between now and
Easter"!!
|
1538.491 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Mon Dec 14 1992 18:35 | 6 |
| Rover and Ford recently increased their prices, and some of the German
manufacturers have done too. I don't know if it's as much as 5%, but
the difference when it comes to quotes will probably be negligible.
Ian
|
1538.492 | No joke | MILE::JENKINS | Suitably refreshed | Tue Dec 15 1992 16:07 | 7 |
|
All major manufacturers raised their prices at the end of November,
most of them swallowing up the 5% that the government had given back.
Amusing really, the manufacturers lobby encouraging the government
to take the tax off and then them grabbing it all back!
Richard.
|
1538.493 | Rover 216 Coupe | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Thu Dec 17 1992 11:17 | 11 |
1538.494 | | NEEPS::IRVINE | THE Digital Mushroom | Thu Dec 17 1992 11:58 | 3 |
| ARG - AUSTIN ROVER GROUP
Bob
|
1538.495 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Thu Dec 17 1992 12:13 | 4 |
| Yeh, I know that, but the Austin name was dropped years ago, they then
became Rover Group and are now just Rover.
Ian
|
1538.496 | Standard quote.. | HEWIE::RUSSELL | So, who did vote for the Tories? | Thu Dec 24 1992 14:52 | 7 |
| is my way of saying 36 months/60K miles.
I'm not sure of different length quotes (say 24months/60K miles) come out
different on this scheme - I know they used to be the same price, but who
can tell nowadays?
Peter.
|
1538.497 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | I saw three chips | Sun Dec 27 1992 13:00 | 7 |
1538.498 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Mon Jan 04 1993 13:19 | 5 |
| I woul have thought the driver price would vary according to the anticipated
mileage as a lower mileage car will have a far higher resale value for the
lease company.
Ian
|
1538.499 | Calibra | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Mon Jan 04 1993 13:27 | 13 |
1538.500 | No extra to an employee !!! | SEDOAS::BRISTOW_A | | Mon Jan 04 1993 13:36 | 8 |
| RE.498
Ian,
Somewhere in VTX it states that Digital will pick up the extra lease
cost over and above 60,000/3 years.
Andy
|
1538.501 | Any known prices for Audi's ? | SEDOAS::BRISTOW_A | | Wed Jan 06 1993 16:14 | 8 |
| Has anybody, or does anybody know of some recent quotes for the NEW
Audi 80 Estate.
Either 2.0E or 2.0 16V Models
Cheers
Andy
|
1538.502 | | WOTVAX::SHAWB1::STOCKMANS | | Thu Jan 07 1993 20:51 | 3 |
| You've not got kids now as well have you Andy????
Si
|
1538.503 | | WOTVAX::SHAWB1::STOCKMANS | | Thu Jan 07 1993 21:04 | 28 |
1538.504 | moved by mod | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Hypodeemic nerdle | Thu Jan 14 1993 15:37 | 16 |
| <<< WANLAD::DUA1:[NOTES$LIBRARY.GENERAL]CARS_UK.NOTE;2 >>>
-< CARS_UK conference >-
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Note 1988.0 Any Toyota Carina Quotes ?? No replies
LARVAE::THACKERAY 10 lines 14-JAN-1993 09:23
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Has anyone had a quote on any of the following Toyota's:
Carina E 2.0i Executive 5 Door
Carina E 2.0i GLi 5 door
Also if anyone has real experience of Mpg (as opposed to the details in
the brochure) I'd appreciate knowing.
Thanks
Paul
|
1538.505 | Espace quotes? | SUBURB::MCDONALDA | Shockwave Rider | Mon Jan 18 1993 12:40 | 5 |
| Has anybody a recent quote for the 2.0 litre versions of the RT or RXE
Espace? I would appreciate if they posted them.
Thank you,
Angus
|
1538.506 | Here's an oldish one | SUBURB::SMYTHI | Ian Smyth 830-3869 | Mon Jan 18 1993 15:22 | 39 |
1538.507 | | SUBURB::MCDONALDA | Shockwave Rider | Mon Jan 18 1993 16:12 | 8 |
| Thanks Ian.
I have a feeling that the quote on the preferred price list is quite
competitive, especially as Renault have just hiked their prices. Just
for the hell of it I think I'll still submit a quote and see if it
comes out less. Mud flaps the cheapest add on?
Angus
|
1538.508 | | SUBURB::SMYTHI | Ian Smyth 830-3869 | Mon Jan 18 1993 19:56 | 5 |
|
Angus,
I just realised that quote also included the comfort pack.
Ian
|
1538.509 | VAUXHALL quotes | WARNUT::SDEMO6::PAVERD | | Tue Jan 19 1993 20:22 | 7 |
1538.510 | | SUBURB::FRENCHS | Semper in excernere | Wed Jan 20 1993 15:29 | 3 |
| Show note...
Conference: CARK_IK
|
1538.511 | Discovery and Espace quotes | WARNUT::PARATA::MATTHEWS | SPS/SWS/SWAS/FS/CS/EIS/DS/NTCC | Thu Jan 21 1993 16:54 | 8 |
1538.512 | Toyota Carina E GTi | LARVAE::WILLIAMS_G | | Fri Jan 22 1993 20:25 | 10 |
1538.513 | Astra Turbo Diesel | SHIPS::ABBOTT_K | | Mon Jan 25 1993 14:10 | 8 |
1538.514 | Confirmation Driver quote for VW GOLF GTI 5DR HATCHBACK | WIZZER::FLANDERSD | I remember the look in your eye | Tue Jan 26 1993 10:23 | 14 |
1538.515 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | Tonight I fancy myself | Tue Jan 26 1993 13:13 | 6 |
1538.516 | CAVALIER DIPLOMAT AUTO QUOTE | SHIPS::FINNIMORE_C | | Tue Jan 26 1993 16:19 | 14 |
1538.517 | RAG TOP ROVER QUOTE | SHIPS::FINNIMORE_C | | Wed Jan 27 1993 11:47 | 6 |
1538.518 | BX19 TGD Est | SHIPS::ABBOTT_K | | Wed Jan 27 1993 12:31 | 9 |
1538.519 | How long does a quote take >??? | SEDOAS::BRISTOW_A | | Wed Jan 27 1993 14:13 | 14 |
| There seems to be a fair few quotes being entered within this note
recently.
Are fleet catching up with the backlog now ?
What is the current lead time for a quote request, both chased and
unchased ?
I need to know as I am due to order soon.
Cheers
Andy
|
1538.520 | | MENOW::PACEN | Here comes the twist | Wed Jan 27 1993 15:09 | 3 |
| RE -.1> -< How long does a quote take >??? >-
Take a look at the most recent replies in 1998.
|
1538.521 | This took five days from acknowledgement | WOTVAX::BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | It's MISTER IPS to you !!! | Thu Jan 28 1993 13:54 | 7 |
1538.522 | | WOTVAX::BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | It's MISTER IPS to you !!! | Thu Jan 28 1993 13:54 | 5 |
1538.523 | Discovery quotes | LARVAE::SMART_A | Resists anything except temptation! | Thu Jan 28 1993 15:10 | 48 |
1538.524 | Frontera estate | SLPSTK::ILES | Mike Iles - UK Alpha Resource Centre | Fri Jan 29 1993 12:23 | 7 |
1538.525 | | SHIPS::GOUGH_P | Pete Gough | Fri Jan 29 1993 12:36 | 12 |
1538.526 | bmw 318is | TBIRD1::WHITMARSH | Kevin - UK PCI Marketing 830 2604 | Tue Feb 02 1993 14:15 | 8 |
1538.527 | VOLVO Estate | CHEFS::BRIGGSR | Four Flat Tyres on a Muddy Road | Wed Feb 03 1993 14:46 | 12 |
1538.528 | MAZDA 626 Estate | CHEFS::BRIGGSR | Four Flat Tyres on a Muddy Road | Wed Feb 03 1993 14:47 | 13 |
1538.529 | FIAT and Pug quotes | FAILTE::BURNETTD | DAVE BURNETT | Wed Feb 03 1993 14:49 | 19 |
1538.530 | forgot to say | FAILTE::BURNETTD | DAVE BURNETT | Wed Feb 03 1993 14:51 | 1 |
| forgot to say the extras were ABS and metallic paint on both.
|
1538.531 | Lease Terms? | YUPPY::STANTONR | | Wed Feb 03 1993 19:44 | 15 |
|
Pardon what might be a stupid question, but why are some of the
quotes that are posted here for 24 months / 60,000 miles ?
..... I thought they all had to be 36 months now.
B o b
(who's new to this getting a new car business as he's always
had 'take-overs' before)
|
1538.533 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | I can always sleep standing up | Wed Feb 03 1993 19:48 | 5 |
| If you're estimated mileage is more than 20,000 per year, then the lease
may be shortened so that the mileage on the car will not exceed 60,000
Ian
|
1538.534 | TOYOTA CARINA QUOTE | SHIPS::DEVERY_L | | Wed Feb 03 1993 20:15 | 10 |
| TOYOTA Carina E , GTI 2.0 Hatchback
36/60K m/s
1418 pounds.
Aleutian Blue Metallic
Delivery May.
|
1538.535 | 2 diesels... | BAHTAT::BARTLE | | Thu Feb 04 1993 16:02 | 24 |
1538.536 | Renault CLIO | KERNEL::LEYLANDS | Sharon Leyland | Tue Feb 09 1993 13:21 | 18 |
1538.537 | PUG PRICE | SHIPS::FINNIMORE_C | | Tue Feb 09 1993 21:00 | 12 |
1538.538 | Made in the UK | TIMMII::RDAVIES | An expert Amateur | Wed Feb 10 1993 12:00 | 5 |
| All Peugot 405's for this market are built in Ryton, UK. So you'll be
supporting BRITISH workers if you got one (Fanfare of trumpets :-) )
Richard
|
1538.539 | VOLVO 850 Quote | WOTVAX::THORPEN | Nigel Thorpe @OLO | Wed Feb 10 1993 13:04 | 7 |
| Does anyone know of anyone with a recent VOLVO 850 quote?
Car Fleet are messing me around and I cannot get a quote but have to
replace my car in 5 weeks!
Best rgds
Nigel
|
1538.540 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | Don't mention the rugby | Wed Feb 10 1993 14:45 | 9 |
1538.541 | still waiting | FAILTE::BRUCEA | | Wed Feb 10 1993 14:47 | 8 |
|
I submitted 2 quotes first week in december, was told they must
have got lost, resubmitted them 2 weeks ago and have just received
confirmation that fleet have entered them on the system to be sent to
the leasing companies. Meanwhile my old car is already away and i am
using a takeover car. What ever happened to 7-10 days?
Adrian
|
1538.542 | Frontera Sport Quotes??? | YUPPY::ELLAWAY | Martin Ellaway@hhl | Wed Feb 10 1993 15:25 | 4 |
| Has anybody got any rescent quotes for a Frontera Sport.
Regards Martin
|
1538.543 | Frontera Sport info | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Hypodeemic nerdle | Wed Feb 10 1993 16:00 | 5 |
1538.544 | | YUPPY::ELLAWAY | Martin Ellaway@hhl | Wed Feb 10 1993 16:49 | 6 |
| Thanks for the reply Roy, That seem alot of money for what it is the
only other quote i've heard of was 922 with all the options except the
wooden steering wheel and gear knobs, but this was about 10 months ago.
Regards Martin
|
1538.545 | ZX Turbo | FILTON::GRIFFITHS_J | | Wed Feb 10 1993 17:03 | 6 |
1538.546 | Along time ago, in a galaxy far,far away | WELCLU::STACEY | | Thu Feb 11 1993 16:35 | 10 |
| Just read the note about the Frontera Sport quote, I took deliery of
mine two weeks ago, after the first thousand miles no problems. The
spec was for the electric pack, metallic paint, bull bar with driving
lamps and fogs, the cost was #805. However, this order went in on
July 4th 1992, and was delivered on 26th January 1993, so you can
expect a long wait if you order one!
Regards
Alan
|
1538.547 | | SAC::JEPSON | EntropyBuster | Fri Feb 12 1993 11:52 | 11 |
1538.548 | | SAC::JEPSON | EntropyBuster | Fri Feb 12 1993 11:54 | 12 |
1538.549 | Citroen ZX 16 Valve... | KERNEL::BAYLISD | I know pigs exist, therefore... | Sun Feb 14 1993 11:12 | 12 |
|
CITROEN ZX 2.0 16V HATCHBACK
Driver Price #895
Lease term 36 months / 60,000 miles
Extras were just the standard front floor mats. I also opted for
metallic paint.
Dave.
|
1538.550 | Quote cheaper than standard? | WOTVAX::MEAKINS | Clive Meakins | Mon Feb 15 1993 11:18 | 2 |
| Anyone know of any Rover 220GTI quotes? I'm trying work out whether to
get a quote for one or order off the standard list.
|
1538.551 | | IOSG::HORSFIELD | screen off | Mon Feb 15 1993 11:52 | 19 |
1538.552 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | I can always sleep standing up | Mon Feb 15 1993 11:53 | 5 |
1538.553 | Have ASTRA will travel. | FILTON::BATH_M | | Mon Feb 15 1993 18:30 | 6 |
1538.554 | ZX Turbo Diesel | LARVAE::WALKER | | Mon Feb 15 1993 19:33 | 12 |
1538.555 | TOYOTA Carina GLi 2.0 hatch Quote..... | SCAFEL::Nichol | If you waNT IT...... | Mon Feb 15 1993 19:34 | 12 |
1538.556 | Re ZX diesel | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Hypodeemic nerdle | Mon Feb 15 1993 19:55 | 5 |
1538.557 | in sync... | YUPPY::CARTER | Windows on the world... | Tue Feb 16 1993 17:09 | 9 |
| I put in two quotes at the beginning of SDec.
I got the one for the Astra 1.6 GLSi (#0) on Monday,
on Tuesday I got an aknowledgement for the second quote... hope it
comes through before the first one expires...
Xtine
|
1538.558 | Jeep Cherokee 4.0L Limited | WLCSV0::EDWARDSB | Brian Edwards, Reading, UK | Wed Feb 17 1993 18:23 | 7 |
1538.559 | NUTS!!! 8*( | WELCLU::YOUNG | | Wed Feb 17 1993 20:30 | 8 |
|
I have just had two Renault 19 16v quotes rejected, I added locking
wheel nuts as the non-std option and was told if you want locking
wheel-nuts get the car off the preferred list and buy your own nuts!!!
So my order's gone in off the list
Richard (young)
|
1538.560 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | I can always sleep standing up | Thu Feb 18 1993 11:37 | 6 |
| So whose liable if the wheels get stolen? Digital I would assume. If the company
supplies you with a car, then they shouldn't expect you to have to pay ANYTHING
towards extras outside of the lease cost.
Ian
|
1538.561 | ZX Volcane 8 valve | COMICS::TRAYLER | | Thu Feb 18 1993 12:26 | 14 |
1538.562 | Recent quote | YUPPY::RAVEN | | Thu Feb 18 1993 14:49 | 15 |
1538.563 | SAAB 9000/BMW 520 | SUBURB::DUCEP | Slowly we change the world..... | Fri Feb 19 1993 05:34 | 17 |
1538.564 | Back to the future. | BAHTAT::DODD | | Fri Feb 19 1993 11:06 | 10 |
| re .559
I have just had my Carlton quotes rejected because mudflaps do not
qualify for a quote. I am sure this is part of the backlog reduction
excercise.
I sent them in on 14/12/92 and got them back on 16/2/93. Not bad to say
no!? I shall be taking this up with whoever.
Andrew
|
1538.565 | VOLVO 2.0 GLT | CHEFS::GORDONI | | Fri Feb 19 1993 11:38 | 9 |
1538.566 | RENAULT CLIO 16V HATCHBACK | COMICS::TRAYLER | | Fri Feb 19 1993 12:11 | 11 |
1538.567 | Quote for Volvo 850 SE | YUPPY::PEGLEY | | Fri Feb 19 1993 12:14 | 17 |
1538.568 | BMW 325i Coupe | WLCSV0::EDWARDSB | Brian Edwards, Reading, UK | Fri Feb 19 1993 13:05 | 6 |
1538.569 | ARG ROVER 214 SI HATCHBACK 3DR | KERNEL::JACKSON | Peter Jackson - UK CSC TP/IM | Fri Feb 19 1993 16:36 | 13 |
1538.570 | Optional/Not permitted Extras | CMOTEC::HARWOODJ | Judy Harwood - REO - 830 2879 | Fri Feb 19 1993 18:12 | 14 |
| Re. .559 & .564
If according to the Fleet guidelines on VTX we're not allowed to add
optional extra's apart from towbars & alarms. What are we supposed
to do about things like mudflaps, locking wheel nuts & bootliners.
These items are available to 'protect the vehicle', so surely it is to
everyones benefit to recognise they exist by either accepting quotes
with them on, or adding them to the 'optional extras on the preferred
list'.
Judy
(Before you ask, yes I've had a quote rejected)
|
1538.571 | Hot off the VTX press . . . | IOSG::SHOVE | Dave Shove -- REO2-G/M6 | Fri Feb 19 1993 19:56 | 15 |
| From VTX FLEET, Option 1 "Preferred Car List Guidelines", sub-option 2
"options":
A range of factory fitted options are also offered at fixed annual prices
which can be added to the basic lease cost. Where a radio/cassette recorder is
not provided as standard option please refer to the guidelines for
"Non-standard" radio equipment.
Quotes will not be submitted for cars from the Preferred Car List with minor
dealer fitted extras, i.e., mud flaps, locking wheel nuts. If these are
required they may be fitted after delivery at the employees expense.
Note that the page was updated today (19-Feb)
D.
|
1538.572 | | KERNEL::FISCHERI | I can always sleep standing up | Fri Feb 19 1993 19:57 | 5 |
| My Calibra quote went through with a dealer fitted fresh air filter added - I
wonder if I'll get an airbag...
Ian
|
1538.573 | CITROEN ZX AURA TURBO DIESEL QUOTE | WELCLU::MONAGHAN | | Fri Feb 19 1993 19:58 | 11 |
1538.574 | | WELCLU::DREW | Not another marzipan mercenary ! | Fri Feb 19 1993 20:48 | 6 |
|
Re. 572.
Is an air-bag going to be standard on Calibras from now on then ?
Graham.
|
1538.576 | Give them a break guys....! | BRUMMY::RICHARD | Your robot sounds like Pink Floyd | Fri Feb 19 1993 21:18 | 15 |
| What do you people want....?
First you complain about long time for quotes...
Now you complain about bogus quotes with "mudflaps" etc.. being rejected...
The service for quote acknowlegement / processing has improved.
I would prefer that the preferred list were updated more often, if it
were to be updated every month, most of this trying to get cars cheaper rubbish
would be eradicated.
Try suggesting improvements, positive thoughts are generally well received.
_Richard
|
1538.577 | | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Fri Feb 19 1993 21:34 | 11 |
| I think car fleet has just got wise to some loop holes in the rules.
You should be grateful there is such a large choice, many other
computer companies have a far poorer car scheme.
What do people prefer? 3 month turnarounds with 'loopholes' or 1 to 2
week turnarounds without?
I know what I would prefer!
Greg
|
1538.578 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Hypodeemic nerdle | Sat Feb 20 1993 12:50 | 12 |
| This is not a moan, it is something that is bugging me since I heard
that quotes were being rejected because of minor options.
I have heard that if you submit an order from the preferred list then
car fleet will still have to submit a quote but the difference is that
you will pay the preferred list price.
Now if this is the case, what is the problem with submitting a personal
quote with an additional minor option if they have to submit a quote
anyway ?
Roy
|
1538.579 | Agreed! | BRUMMY::RICHARD | Your robot sounds like Pink Floyd | Mon Feb 22 1993 12:01 | 14 |
|
> I have heard that if you submit an order from the preferred list then
> car fleet will still have to submit a quote but the difference is that
> you will pay the preferred list price.
Now that system is ludicrous, it wastes resources for all concerned.
But, the number of quotes that I see in here with locking wheelnuts or mudflaps,
must only be the tip of a mountain of similar speculative quotes.
I would suggest that quotes are formally published, and should be valid for ALL
employees to reference within the normal time limit.
_Richard
|
1538.580 | Full circle? | BRUMMY::MARTIN::BELL | Martin Bell, TCC, Birmingham UK | Mon Feb 22 1993 12:20 | 9 |
| _Richard,
>I would suggest that quotes are formally published, and should be valid for ALL
>employees to reference within the normal time limit.
you mean like in the good old days!!!!!
mb
|
1538.581 | Constructive feedback | WELCLU::YOUNG | | Mon Feb 22 1993 13:28 | 26 |
|
I think the best way to do it is to have a preferred car list but to
have it updated approx. once/month to cover model changes price
increasess etc. so that effectively all cars on the car list are
covered by current quotes.
Or if that is not possible and we have to stick with getting quotes
from the leasing co's for cars off the list the driver should pay the
list price max. ie. if the quote comes back cheaper then that's what
you pay.
Or the old system of publishing all quotes so that anyone can accept
them. (I understand this was discontinued to reduce admin. but this is
my fourth company car and the first time a quote has been submitted for
a car for me. So I can't see the saving)
I can see the point of getting two competitive quotes, but it must
cause a lot more admin, could we not get a better deal from one of the
lease co's if we used them solely on the understanding that if we think
we get a better deal elsewhere then we take all next year's business
elsewhere to keep them competitive? Or possibly even sub-contract all
fleet operations to a lease co. as we have with Logistics.
Richard (young@wlo)
|
1538.582 | 2 BX Quotes | FAILTE::BRUCEA | | Mon Feb 22 1993 13:47 | 19 |
1538.583 | Montego Contryman Diesel | CHEFS::BRIGGSR | Four Flat Tyres on a Muddy Road | Mon Feb 22 1993 13:57 | 20 |
1538.584 | Nissan Estate | LARVAE::JORDAN | Chris Jordan, TSE - Technology Services, End-User Computing | Mon Feb 22 1993 15:45 | 11 |
1538.585 | Rover 220 Turbo Coupe | ARRODS::WHITAKER | The man from Hull | Mon Feb 22 1993 21:59 | 31 |
1538.586 | Honda Civic VTi | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Wed Feb 24 1993 01:02 | 17 |
1538.587 | TOYOTA CARINA EXECUTIVE QUOTE | LARVAE::THACKERAY | | Wed Feb 24 1993 17:48 | 13 |
| Finally received the following for the Toyota Carina E Executive....
Driver Price 1199
Lease Term 24 months/60,000 miles
Quote Number 014342 Date requested 10 FEB 93 Quote expires on
18 MARCH 93
Extras Metallic paint
My order is in....................
Paul
|
1538.588 | VW Passat Turbo Diesel Estate quote | WOTVAX::BEMANDN | Nige' Bemand | Wed Feb 24 1993 23:33 | 17 |
1538.589 | Alfa quotes ?<moved by mod(RS)> | KERNEL::SMITHS | more nonsense in a minute ... | Mon Mar 01 1993 12:07 | 6 |
| Has anyone had a recent quote on either an Alfa 155 or Alfa 33 or even
a 164,any ideas on the lease cost of one of these ?
thanks
Steve.
|
1538.590 | | CHEFS::BRIGGSR | Four Flat Tyres on a Muddy Road | Mon Mar 01 1993 12:21 | 12 |
|
Re -.2
Thanks, but it lacks a mandatory requirement, a third row of seats. I'm
told that the Passat used to offer this but not now according to the
local VAG dealer.
I've gone for the Mazda 626 Estate for which the quote is somewhere
back in this note.
Thanks,
Richard
|
1538.591 | Mazda MX6 quotes and info ???? | WELCLU::OVERELL | | Mon Mar 01 1993 13:02 | 7 |
| Has anyone had a test drive of a MX6. Are they any good, and has
anyone had a quote.(realistic or not)
Thanks
Keith
|
1538.592 | Why not try a Xedos ??? | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Mon Mar 01 1993 15:05 | 6 |
|
You can't afford one of those Keith :-) :-)
Paul....
|
1538.593 | T A X ? | WELCLU::DREW | Not another marzipan mercenary ! | Mon Mar 01 1993 22:36 | 7 |
|
Isnt the MX6 a 2.5 engine?...what about tax...do you know something
about the budget that I dont...............?
Graham.
|
1538.594 | Renault 19 16v Cabriolet | YUPPY::STANTONR | G4KDI | Tue Mar 02 1993 12:55 | 20 |
1538.595 | VW Passat Turbo Diesel Saloon Quote | WOTVAX::BEMANDN | Nige' Bemand | Tue Mar 02 1993 18:31 | 11 |
1538.596 | I work...I dream... | WELCLU::OVERELL | | Tue Mar 02 1993 20:10 | 9 |
| RE:.591, .592, .593
A guy can dream can't he......and besides I understand their are to be
some changes to the company car tax allowences...So the question still
stands....Does anybody have a quote, or had a test drive...?
See you at Stevanage!
Keith
|
1538.597 | Citroen XM 2.0 SI TURBO ESTATE | CHEFS::GORDONI | | Wed Mar 03 1993 11:30 | 11 |
1538.598 | Montego Diesel Estate | PEKING::GERRYT | | Wed Mar 03 1993 15:29 | 4 |
| Had a reply for a Montego Clubman 2.0 Diesel with PAS, Roof cross bars, 7
seat capacity, towbar with twin electrics, metallic paint all for 0 pounds!
Tim
|
1538.599 | Loadsatax | MILE::JENKINS | Suitably refreshed | Wed Mar 03 1993 20:21 | 7 |
|
Re : the XM quote...
The XM Si Turbo Est is 19245 with no extras, so with aircon and alloys
the price is going to be way over 19250.
Richard.
|
1538.600 | BMW 318is Coupe | WOTVAX::THORPEN | Nigel Thorpe @OLO | Thu Mar 04 1993 15:11 | 24 |
1538.601 | SEAT TOLEDO 1.9 TD GLX | LARVAE::IVES_J | One i-node short of a file system | Thu Mar 04 1993 19:07 | 12 |
| Subject: Your Quotation :- SEAT TOLEDO 1.9 GLX TD HATCHBACK
Driver Price : #82
Lease term : 30 months / 60,000 miles
Quote number : 014582 Date requested : 23 FEB 93 Quote expires on 31
MAR 93
Extras : As requested.
Put in the quote form 2 weeks ago. Got a receipt of form by mail 2 days
later, and then the actual price 2 weeks after posting the quote form.
I think thats pretty good service. well done car fleet.
Jonathan Ives @ UCG
|
1538.602 | Toledo 1.8 GTI 16V | KERNEL::BAYLISD | I know pigs exist, therefore... | Thu Mar 04 1993 20:51 | 13 |
|
Subject: Your Quotation :- SEAT TOLEDO 1.8 GTI 16V SALOON
Driver Price : #1269
Lease term : 36 months / 60,000 miles
Quote number : 014546 Date requested : 19 FEB 93 Quote expires on 31
MAR 93
Extras : (None).
I thought this was quite a lot for a 14.5K motor.
Dave.
|
1538.603 | Calibra 16v | WELCLU::DREW | Not another marzipan mercenary ! | Thu Mar 04 1993 22:55 | 7 |
|
Just received a quote for a Calibra 16v with reduced-cost option
cloth interior.....#1192....JOLLY good I think !
Quote is for 24 months / 60K miles...dont know if this makes it
cheaper ?????
Graham.
|
1538.604 | Nissan 200SX (moved by mod.RS) | BAHTAT::JAGOTA | Anil Jagota, Newcastle(RKG), (DTN 831-3174) | Fri Mar 05 1993 15:15 | 10 |
| Hi,
Has anyone had a quote for a Nissan 200SX with air conditioning???
I know there are standard quotes for the sunroof model, however the
air conditioning is a no-cost option if you don't mind loosing the
sunroof! I'm just wodering if it makes a difference to the lease cost.
Thanks,
Anil....
|
1538.605 | Nissan Serena | BELFST::DOGGART | I use the V** word. | Fri Mar 05 1993 16:25 | 6 |
1538.606 | citroen zx turbo diesel quotes | WELCLU::MONAGHAN | | Fri Mar 05 1993 18:03 | 13 |
1538.607 | RS2000 and ZX 16V | BELFST::LOGAN | DECkchair Attendant | Fri Mar 05 1993 18:55 | 15 |
1538.608 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Hypodeemic nerdle | Fri Mar 05 1993 19:11 | 4 |
| The ZX 16v quote looks very good as are most Citroen quotes at the
moment.
Roy
|
1538.609 | ZX Volcane bargain... | HEWIE::RUSSELL | So, who did vote for the Tories? | Mon Mar 08 1993 12:58 | 4 |
1538.610 | Good quotes, lousy dealers | CMBOOT::DELANYS | Your pessimism is my realism | Mon Mar 08 1993 13:06 | 9 |
| The quotes for the Citroens look extremely good, but I would find a
decent local franchised dealer first before you get too carried away...
In my experience of two dealers, customer service, and ability to fix
highlighted problems, are nearly non-existent.
Stephen
|
1538.611 | SRi 16v Cavalier | NEWOA::CROME_A | | Mon Mar 08 1993 13:11 | 10 |
| I've just received a quote for a cavalier SRi 16v with pearlescent paint
and an electric sunroof for 847 pounds.....
Thats nearley 200 quid less than its 8v partner on the basket quote.
Quote No 014657 if anyone is interested, and it expires on the 2nd April .
Andy
Astra 16v quote to follow........
|
1538.612 | Re Citroen's | NEWOA::CROME_A | | Mon Mar 08 1993 13:13 | 5 |
| Re .610
I totally agree .........
Andy
|
1538.613 | cheap and cheerful cavalier | JOCKEY::BUCKG | don't let THEM grind you down | Tue Mar 09 1993 00:34 | 6 |
| I got a quote through last week for a cavalier 2.0i ls 5 door with towbar
(twin electrics) for 71 quid. This should make a cheapie towcar.
No other extras though....
Gareth
|
1538.614 | RE: 591,592 etc.. | WARNUT::SDEMO2::winstanleyj | | Wed Mar 10 1993 16:41 | 11 |
1538.615 | At least one good one | UBOHUB::AUSTIN_I | | Wed Mar 10 1993 20:18 | 10 |
|
Re .610 and .612
I have had three Citroen Bx's. The first was poor (too many electrical
problems and noisy - a 19something petrol), but the two diesels have
been absolutely perfect - FOR ME. I have only used the West Heath
garage in Cove - not one complaint and nice people.
Ian.
|
1538.616 | It's an MX6 for me! | WELCLU::OVERELL | | Mon Mar 15 1993 14:54 | 5 |
| Thanks John
I still have some time before the lease on my 16V Astra expires so if
I save hard and stop eating I might just be able to afford an MX6....
|
1538.617 | More ZX quotes | WOTVAX::HATTOS | I think, Therefore I'm paid less | Sat Mar 20 1993 12:50 | 25 |
1538.618 | Quote Number | NEWOA::FLACK_I | "One Mail Short of a Full Inbox" | Mon Mar 22 1993 14:54 | 12 |
1538.619 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Mon Mar 22 1993 14:59 | 5 |
| re : ZX Turbo Diesel
Could you also say what model it is (ie Aura ? Volcane ?)
Roy
|
1538.620 | More Citroen ZX Quotes. | LARVAE::HONOUR_K | | Mon Mar 22 1993 16:30 | 18 |
1538.621 | | WOTVAX::HATTOS | I think, Therefore I'm paid less | Mon Mar 22 1993 18:46 | 6 |
| re .618 and .619
The Turbo Diesel was an Aura, and I haven't got the quote number.
If you mail WARDER::MCGRATHD he can help you.
Stuart
|
1538.622 | Quotes from note 1538.621 | WOTVAX::MCGRATHD | All those moments will be lost in time | Tue Mar 23 1993 15:19 | 26 |
1538.655 | Mondeo 2.0 Si price | LARVAE::GILLIES_D | Dave Gillies UCG AG/7 7781 1637 | Wed Mar 31 1993 12:15 | 18 |
1538.623 | Expensive Mondeo 1.8GLX + A/C | COMICS::BUTT | Give me the facts real straight. | Tue Apr 06 1993 18:05 | 12 |
1538.624 | Mondeo cost to come down | MARVIN::ROBINSON | OSI Upper Layer Architect | Tue Apr 06 1993 19:23 | 5 |
| re -1
Times yesterday stated that Ford are intending to reduce the price of
Mondeo to be more in line with Cavalier prices. Perhaps you should requote
Dave
|
1538.625 | | MENOW::PACEN | Here comes the twist | Tue Apr 06 1993 21:14 | 6 |
| I think this price reduction business is done by squeezing the dealer
margins. The effect is to get a lower MLP for the new taxation system,
but won't have any effect on the price that Hertz / PHH get the car
for.
~sam
|
1538.626 | Get a new quote | MILE::JENKINS | Suitably refreshed | Wed Apr 07 1993 17:07 | 10 |
|
....yes, maybe it won't be any cheaper....
but it WILL affect the tax you pay next year as that is going to
be based on list price. So it is worth a requote as Ford did
announce price reductions yesterday.
Richard.
|
1538.627 | | SUBURB::THOMASH | The Devon Dumpling | Wed Apr 07 1993 17:47 | 20 |
|
Extracts from todays Mail:
price cuts up to 10%
The New Mondeo up to 1,145 pound cheaper
Almost 4,000 private motorists that have already bought the Mondeo can
apply for refunds.
The company is cutting the dealer margins from 17.5% to 10%
The move follows Vauxhalls lowering of dealer margins last week after
increasing the price of all models except the Cavalier and Corsa.
Ford said it was in response to the governments decision to tax company
cars on their list price.
Heather
|
1538.628 | | UPROAR::IME257::DAVE | Durelli, son of tyre maker | Wed Apr 07 1993 22:38 | 5 |
| So much does that make Mondeo's now ?
Any views on what this will do to Ford Dealers ?
Dave D.
|
1538.629 | | ELBOW::BELLINGER | | Thu Apr 08 1993 12:44 | 4 |
| The prices of the Mondeo have dropped between 300 and 1100 pounds.
I think the price of the GLX is 700 pounds cheaper. The other news
is that Ford are cutting the dealer margins to 10% from 17% on the
Mondeo range.
|
1538.630 | Another Mondeo quote | MUGGER::GRAHAM | Graham Smith, Office & Networks IST | Tue Apr 13 1993 16:53 | 22 |
1538.631 | Another ZX Turbo Quote | FILTON::GRIFFITHS_J | | Mon Apr 19 1993 14:56 | 18 |
1538.632 | sounds a real bargain | WIZZER::WEGG | Some hard boiled eggs and some nuts. | Mon Apr 19 1993 16:37 | 7 |
| Re -.1
Jim,
Is that the 3 or 5 door model?
Ian.
|
1538.633 | Suggestions please.... | WOTVAX::STONEG | | Tue Apr 20 1993 17:09 | 7 |
|
Has anyone received a quote for a Ginetta (any model at this stage)?
Or how about useful suggestions for a RWD coupe to replace my 2.8 Capri
- preferably without a BMW badge attached !
Graham
|
1538.634 | | WELCLU::DREW | Not another marzipan mercenary ! | Tue Apr 20 1993 22:41 | 1 |
| Supra??? ...or howabout a Sierra Cosworth (no..I know its not a coupe).
|
1538.635 | | ELBOW::BELLINGER | | Wed Apr 21 1993 12:46 | 17 |
1538.636 | PEUGEOT 405 GRD TURBO ESTATE | PAPERS::CORNE | John Corne - Product & Technology group | Wed Apr 21 1993 14:18 | 9 |
| Subject: Your Quotation :- PEUGEOT 405 GRD TURBO ESTATE
Driver Price : #982
Lease term : 36 months / 60,000 miles
Quote number : 015054 Date requested: 07 APR 93 Quote expires on 19 MAY
Extras : As requested. (ABS and Mudflaps - Jc)
Jc
|
1538.637 | 1.8GLX must have After-burners??? | SHIPS::BREEZE_R | | Wed Apr 21 1993 14:59 | 12 |
|
RE: 635
There was an earlier quote for 1.8GLX which seemed above the norm
(See .623).
AUTOCAR nominated the 1.8GLX, as "...best model in the current range..."
Do you suppose the lease companies load their margin according to
popularity?
Reg
|
1538.638 | Just for fun! | PEKING::ATKINSA | | Fri Apr 23 1993 20:35 | 14 |
|
Subject your quotation :- 500cc Trabant.
Drivers price: You must be joking.
Lease term : 3years/600 miles. (yes that is hundred).
Extras : Temperature,petrol guage.3 speed gearbox.12 volt
electrics.
Any takers??
Andy ;-)
|
1538.639 | NISSAN 200 SX QUOTES | BAHTAT::JAGOTA | Anil Jagota, Newcastle(RKG), (DTN 831-3174) | Mon Apr 26 1993 13:02 | 13 |
1538.640 | More Mondeo Prices | MUGGER::GRAHAM | Graham Smith, Office & Networks IST | Mon Apr 26 1993 17:22 | 13 |
1538.641 | Cheaper and cheaper | WAYOUT::WAYOUT::LOAT | Ahead groove factor 5! Yeah! | Mon Apr 26 1993 17:54 | 15 |
1538.642 | Another Mondeo Quote, after Price Reduction | ATKINS::ATKINSP | Paul Atkins- UK Transmission Services | Mon Apr 26 1993 19:34 | 9 |
1538.643 | Remuneration or lottery | COMICS::BUTT | Give me the facts real straight. | Mon Apr 26 1993 21:47 | 9 |
| Re .642
This is unbelievable. A GLX with ABS is over 1000 pounds PER YER
cheaper than a GLX with A/C. What a lottery !
If my quote is still current and I requote for the same car will I get
another price ?
R.
|
1538.644 | | WIZZER::FISCHER | I can always sleep standing up | Tue Apr 27 1993 13:04 | 6 |
| > If my quote is still current and I requote for the same car will I get
> another price ?
It wouldn't surprise me if you got a different price back.
It would be interesting to know exactly how the lease cost
is calculated. Do you think the lease companies would make this public?
|
1538.645 | Current Mondeo quotes | COMICS::BUTT | Give me the facts real straight. | Wed Apr 28 1993 18:19 | 97 |
1538.646 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Wed Apr 28 1993 18:47 | 3 |
| Interesting, but were all those quotes really necessary ?
Royston
|
1538.647 | Too much quoting | COMICS::BUTT | Give me the facts real straight. | Wed Apr 28 1993 21:55 | 21 |
| Re .-1
There's 3 points here:-
1. The "basket" cars are now too expensive so you would be unwise to
take one, so get a quote.
2. The quotes are not generally published so you just don't know what's
available, so you need to quote.
3. While individual quotes seem vary widely for very similar cars it
would be sad to pay over 1000 pounds/year more than someone else for the
same car.
It seems that these points would tend to increase the ammount of
price quoting. Personnally I would like to see a formula based on
insurance group, driver age, driver record, MLP, and % discount to
arrive at driver price. This could be set to make sure DEC did not lose
money, it would be fair and it could encourage safer driving.
R.
|
1538.648 | | WIZZER::FISCHER | I can always sleep standing up | Wed Apr 28 1993 22:13 | 8 |
| I agree. I've seen this in other companies where they basically
input figures such as those menitoned along with mileage per
annum and get a figure out to say whether they qualify for that
car. Surely fleet should demand this from the leasing
companies.
Ian
|
1538.649 | TOYOTA COROLLA QUOTE. | WARHED::SGIBBONS | | Thu Apr 29 1993 01:27 | 10 |
1538.650 | I'd *strongly* recomend several quotes at the moment | HEWIE::RUSSELL | The car behind is an ATOYOT... | Thu Apr 29 1993 13:31 | 12 |
1538.651 | nissan sunny 2.0 gti quote | ZEM::ILETT | | Thu Apr 29 1993 14:19 | 11 |
1538.652 | renault clio 16v quote | ZEM::ILETT | | Thu Apr 29 1993 14:20 | 13 |
1538.653 | rover 220 | WELCLU::SHARP | | Thu Apr 29 1993 18:44 | 11 |
| rover 220 2.0 coupe 16v NON-TURBO
driver price : #1522
lease term : 30 months / 60,000 miles
quote number : 015079 expires 19 may 93
no extras
what a difference a turbo makes
|
1538.654 | soloution. | WELCLU::DREW | Not another marzipan mercenary ! | Fri Apr 30 1993 03:46 | 13 |
|
Chris,
FOR SALE.
One "turbo" badge, good condition, ex-Fiesta.
Yours for a tenner !
Graham.
|
1538.656 | Mondeo Quotes <moved by mod.RS> | FILTON::YOUNG | | Thu May 06 1993 18:47 | 105 |
1538.658 | VAUXHALL ASTRA GLS 1.7TD ESTATE | PAPERS::CORNE | John Corne - Product & Technology group | Fri May 07 1993 13:36 | 9 |
| Subject: Your Quotation :- VAUXHALL ASTRA GLS 1.7TD ESTATE
Driver Price : #314
Lease term : 36 months / 60,000 miles
Quote number : 015217 Date requested : 27 APR 93 Quote expires on 04
JUN 93
Extras : ABS and mud flaps
Jc
|
1538.659 | Any Granada Quotes Around? | BLKPUD::NORRISM | The man with no personal name | Sun May 09 1993 20:22 | 5 |
| Has anyone had any recent Quotes for Ford Granada's, not the top of the
range but the LX or GLX models, (I'm not paid enough for the flashy
ones).
Regards Mike NORRIS
|
1538.660 | info needed on Alfa164/Rover623is/BMW520se | WARNUT::SDEMO2::winstanleyj | | Tue May 18 1993 17:23 | 9 |
| Hello people,
Does anyone know of any quotes for the following cars Rover 623is, Alfa 164
twin spark lusso,s, or BMW 520 se. As we seem to be resticted to two quotes
it would be useful to get an idea of what I can or more likly can't afford
prior to using the quote system.
Thanks in anticipation.
|
1538.661 | Phone Carfleet | YUPPY::ELLAWAY | Martin Ellaway@hhl | Tue May 18 1993 17:31 | 7 |
| Re-1
Why not phone fleet and ask, i did and they sent me an all in 1 for the
vehicles I was interested in.
Regards Martin
|
1538.662 | | WIZZER::FISCHER | I can always sleep standing up | Tue May 18 1993 17:39 | 5 |
| Why not post it here then?
Ian
|
1538.663 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Wed May 19 1993 13:19 | 7 |
| Re .-1
Good point Ian. If anyone gets info from fleet on car quotes and is
prepared to enter it here can you check with fleet to see if its ok
with them.
Royston
|
1538.664 | Frontera quotes | YUPPY::ELLAWAY | Martin Ellaway@hhl | Wed May 19 1993 14:11 | 27 |
| All the following have expired but for anuone whos's interested these
are some quote sfor frontera's:
FRONTERA 2.0I SPORT POWER PACK/ PEARLESCENT PAINT/
NUDGE BAR/ DRIVING LAMPS/ FFMATS 450
FRONTERA 2.0I SPORT BLACK /FFMATS 258
FRONTERA 2.4I ESTATE TILTABLE STEERING COLUMN/ NON-MET
FOGS/ DRIVING LAMPS/NUDGE BAR 1176
FRONTERA 2.4I ESTATE PEARLESCENT/ FFMATS/LEATHER STEERING
WHEEL/ ALLOYS/ NUDGE/ SIDE STEPS/FOGS
DRIVING LAMPS/TRAILER HITCH/TILTABLE
STEERING COLUMN/ SC804 RADIO 1628
FRONTERA 2.4I ESTATE ALLOYS/METALLIC/FFMATS 1241
FRONTERA 2.3 TD TOWING KIT/ SIDE STEPS/ PEARLESCENT
FOG LAMPS/DRIVING LAMPS/FFMATS 1388
FRONTERA 2.3 TD SIDESTEPS/ NON-METALLIC/NUDGE 1241
Martin
|
1538.665 | CALIBRA SE AND MAZDA 2.0I GLX QUOTES | BAHTAT::JAGOTA | Anil Jagota, Newcastle(RKG), (DTN 831-3174) | Thu May 20 1993 14:11 | 16 |
1538.666 | | BELFST::NELSON | | Wed May 26 1993 14:49 | 31 |
1538.667 | Renault 16v - expensive! | BAHTAT::NEWTON | | Thu May 27 1993 17:18 | 14 |
1538.668 | Re 19 16v met paint | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Thu May 27 1993 18:07 | 4 |
| Andy, why was your quote accepted when you can order with this exact spec
from the preferred list ("basket") ?
Royston
|
1538.669 | | WIZZER::PARRY | Trevor Parry | Thu May 27 1993 18:49 | 4 |
| re: .668
Maybe the "Note 24 months!" had something to do with it.
tp
|
1538.670 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Thu May 27 1993 19:42 | 5 |
| Car fleet will arrange a shorter lease if you anticipate a high mileage
but that shouldn't affect the driver price or whether or not you order
from the preferred list.
Royston
|
1538.671 | | WIZZER::PARRY | Trevor Parry | Thu May 27 1993 20:39 | 12 |
| In section 4 leases it states "The standard lease period is for 36
months and an expected mileage of 60,000". And in section 8 it states,
"If an employee wants a car that is not on the preferred car list, or
to order non-standard options(see note below) for a car that is on the
list, a quotation will be required." Now if 'options' = 'lease_period'
then 'non-standard options' = 'non-standard lease_period' therefore;
quote required.
But then the quote may have just slipped through.
Now to prove black is white....:-)
tp
|
1538.672 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Thu May 27 1993 21:21 | 16 |
| The process for ordering from the preferred list is as follows as far as
I can tell -
You fill in an order form with the preferred list reference together
with any otions and you specify your anticipated milage (>25000 miles/year
gets you a shorter lease but it maybe 20000 miles these days).
Fleet then submit a quote themselves and specify whatever lease term
they think appropiate. They then order the car from the quote they get
back and if the quote is higher or lower than the one in the preferred
list it doesn't matter, you will pay the amount on the list only.
What I can't work out from this is why fleet are not keen on us
submitting our own quotes for cars on the list (with minor dealer fit
options) if they have to submit quotes anyway.
Royston
|
1538.673 | Keep your fingers crossed!!! | WELCLU::YOUNG | Policemen aren't nasty people | Thu May 27 1993 22:40 | 12 |
|
I echo all of .672 and I'm a bit peeved that these quotes were put
through as mine with locking wheelnuts was rejected....I would have
liked the met. paint and leather for the extra 2 quid.
They seem to make the rules up as they go along!
I think in this day and age with nice alloy wheels, locking nuts is
almost a necessity, but I don't intend to go and buy them to protect
what boils down to someone elses car.
Ricard
Ps. I love my R19 16v and I hope its still got wheels in the morning!
|
1538.674 | ta very much | WELCLU::DREW | Not another marzipan mercenary ! | Fri May 28 1993 01:10 | 9 |
|
Richard,
I know where you live..thanks for the tip off about lack of locking
wheel nuts....I hope you like the pile of bricks I have left under
each axle !
Graham.
|
1538.675 | wheel meet again | WELCLU::YOUNG | Policemen aren't nasty people | Fri May 28 1993 15:44 | 12 |
|
Graham,
It's no good just nicking the wheels a good thief gets a good price,
bet it cost you more in fares to poland than you got for them out
there, and how did you get them in your suitcase?
Richard
Ps. thanks for the bricks they were just what I needed to finish my
garden wall!
|
1538.676 | Nuts! | BAHTAT::NEWTON | | Fri May 28 1993 18:53 | 19 |
| Hi,
I asked for a quote because my milage may be higher than 20k.
The reason you are not expected to quote for locking wheel nuts and
similar options is, I believe, because these are dealer fit options and
not factory fitted ones. Read the ordering instructions on VTX for the
official line, which I think says that the driver is expected to pay
for these himself.
Thinking logically, it would be an administrative nightmare for
carfleet to keep track of requests for mudflaps, locking nuts, posh
mats and all the other dealer fit bits & bobs, as well as the factory
fit ones.
If you live in a high risk area, surely you should buy the nuts,
and your manager should pay for them on expenses! It would seem
logical.
Regards,
Andy.
|
1538.677 | | WARNUT::RICE | Steve Rice @OLO | Fri May 28 1993 19:03 | 11 |
| > If you live in a high risk area, surely you should buy the nuts,
> and your manager should pay for them on expenses! It would seem
> logical.
Back in, ooooh it must be 1987, my manager authorized the purchase of a
removable Kenwood Radio-cassette after my Orion had its radio nicked
twice in THREE DAYS. This was (presumably) paid for by the cost centre
and was done on an L.V.O. I guess the rules have probably changed by
now.
Steve.
|
1538.678 | Re: .676 | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Fri May 28 1993 19:17 | 16 |
| RE .76
Andy I don't think you understand the system. There is no extra admin
problem with ordering even minor options as each quote is unique to
the submitter. This means that all the options you list go through on
the quote form to the lease company who will say how much it cost.
It is then down to the lease company to supply the car to your
specification.
As already mentioned, quotes have to be submitted even if you order
from the preferred list so I can't see where the extra overhead is
with regard to submitting personal quotes for cars already on the list.
I have asked Doug about this in passing, but he never got back to me
for one reason or another.
Royston
|
1538.679 | whats length of lease got to do with prefered list | WELCLU::YOUNG | Policemen aren't nasty people | Fri May 28 1993 19:24 | 11 |
|
Re: .676
I don't live in a particularly high risk area, we all live in a high
risk area, the uk is a high risk area!
Richard
ps. I do high mileage as well and asked for a 2.5 year lease, I don't
think the length of lease has anything to do with the cost, and hence
whether it should be a separate quote.
|
1538.680 | length isn't important....! | WELCLU::DREW | Not another marzipan mercenary ! | Tue Jun 01 1993 03:37 | 7 |
| I actually asked car fleet about the lease length/cost equation
and was told that it made NO difference to the driver price.
Graham.
PS. Rich....Ooops..took the wheels from your "other' car
by mistake...when can you take them back ?
|
1538.681 | | WELCLU::YOUNG | Policemen aren't nasty people | Tue Jun 01 1993 19:11 | 6 |
|
Graham,
It's too late to take them back I already reported them
stolen........the insurance co. say its a right-off!
Richard
|
1538.682 | Celica quote | LARVAE::CRIER_S | | Fri Jun 04 1993 16:24 | 8 |
1538.684 | Peugeot 405 GL 1.8i Estate | WIZZER::WEGG | Some hard boiled eggs and some nuts. | Sat Jun 05 1993 01:08 | 8 |
1538.685 | More Modeos | KERNEL::MORRIS | Which universe did you dial? | Mon Jun 07 1993 17:04 | 21 |
1538.686 | | VANGA::KERRELL | get off of my fence | Mon Jun 07 1993 17:50 | 3 |
| > whowantedanotherperformancecarbuthastwokidsandapramtoconsider
Get a smaller pram ;-)
|
1538.687 | | WIZZER::FISCHER | I can always sleep standing up | Mon Jun 07 1993 20:33 | 1 |
| Or get a nanny!!!!
|
1538.688 | | ESBS01::WATSON | Rik Watson (7) 782 2238 | Mon Jun 07 1993 21:02 | 3 |
| Or a Lotus Carlton, like what my neighbour did this weekend :-(
Rik-it's-got-TWICE-the-power-and-torque-of-the-Prelude-sob-sob,sob.
|
1538.689 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | | Tue Jun 08 1993 18:47 | 12 |
1538.690 | Xantia Anyone? | CHEFS::CURRIEI | Dyslexic snice brith | Tue Jun 08 1993 20:56 | 7 |
| Has anyone got a quote for a Xantia yet? I'd be interested to know how
they stack up against the Mondeo (although I'll be waiting for the
turbo diesel). 'What Car' magazine gives the Xantia a rave review in
the current issue.
Ian
|
1538.691 | Xantia on way -Anyone got Cavalier V6 info? | BPSOF::BROWN | Chris Brown | Wed Jun 09 1993 12:29 | 9 |
| I asked one of the nice ladies in car fleet the very same question last
week, and she told me that they had just sent some off to the lease
companies, and expected them back towards the end of this week.
Watch this space.
BTW, anyone had a quote for a Cavalier V6 ???
- Chris -
|
1538.692 | xantia vsx 1.9td | WOTVAX::FRYER | Mark FRYER @OLO | Wed Jun 16 1993 20:01 | 19 |
1538.693 | Xantia VSX | BPSOF::BROWN | Chris Brown | Fri Jun 18 1993 14:00 | 36 |
1538.694 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Fri Jun 18 1993 14:32 | 9 |
| The CC memo said that existing quotes and orders would be honoured.
I would think that you could still order from existing valid quotes
that car fleet have although I don't think they will process anymore quotes
until the new system is announced in July.
I was due to submit quotes next week so I am particularly miffed.
Royston
|
1538.695 | These fleet companies are rubbish! | TIMMII::TOMMII::RDAVIES | Amateur Expert | Fri Jun 18 1993 15:13 | 6 |
| Chris,
The rejection of the Xantia D and TD quotes is smokescreen. The dealers had (and I
published in here) the diesel prices at least 2 weeks ago.
Richard
|
1538.696 | Where is my car ??? | BAHTAT::ASH | | Fri Jun 18 1993 18:11 | 6 |
| I feel the same way Royston, so much so I mailed Chris Conway to
complain ( does this mean I'm next on the right-size list ?? )
Anyway if existing quotes are valid can someone out there provide me
with one for a Renault 19 16v hatch.
Rob.
|
1538.697 | No quote needed! | WELCLU::YOUNG | Policemen aren't nasty people | Fri Jun 18 1993 23:52 | 8 |
|
RE: -.1
You don't need a quote for a renault 19 16v it's on the cuurent
prefferred car list.
Richard
|