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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

1632.0. "Cardboard Cop Cars!" by BRUMMY::63536::BELL (Martin Bell, TCC, Birmingham UK) Wed Dec 18 1991 10:35

Did anyone see the article on "Cornflake TV" this morning, saying how the
Northumbria Police are placing full sized cardboard cut-outs of Police cars
on bridges over roads.

They have discovered (own up, who told them!) that most drivers slow down
when they see a Police car, but half a mile further on they tend to resume
their original speed.

Thus they put the visible cardboard car on a bridge, then a mile or so further
on they "hide" a real Police car which catches you when you speed up again.

WOW! This is a brilliant idea hey? What clever chappies these boys in blue are!

mb

p.s.

I can see a lot of student digs in the Northumbria area suddenly gaining
life sized Police cars on their walls - ideal decoration for that party,
forget your flashing road-work lamps!!!!!!
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1632.1JGODCL::SHERLOCKThe Yorkshire RepublicanWed Dec 18 1991 10:4912
    They had a similar experiment over here in Holland not so long back
    where they parked a police car at the side of the road, in it they
    placed two tailors' dummies, usually one "male" and one "female"
    dressed in police uniform.
    Someone (a passer-by) thought he/or she'd have a laugh and broke
    into the police car, took out the two dummies and place them in
    a "compromising position" on the bonnet !! much to the hilarity
    of the passers-by.
    That really did slow the traffic down ! :-)
    
    
    Tim
1632.2Watch out, there's a cut-out about!KERNEL::LOATBored...bored........BORED!!!!Thu Dec 19 1991 15:5411
    
    Saw news of this on the TV.
    
    One other thing they'll do is put policeman behind the fake cars with
    detectors, so even though people may get to know where the fake cars
    are, they'll never be able to be sure that there won't be a policeman
    hiding behind it, waiting to report them to a policecar lurking
    somewhere!
    
    Steve.
    
1632.3PLAYER::BROWNLWot's a rathole?Thu Dec 19 1991 16:1910
    Makes you wonder what it's all coming to really. I mean, only this week
    they announced a huge rise in reported crime, a massive increase in car
    thefts, all sorts of expensive "cures" for joy-riding, and then this
    shit to catch speeding motorists.
    
    Britain is getting more of a bloody Police state by the day, as I
    cannot fail to notice when I go back there. God help you all, it's
    getting out of hand.
    
    Laurie
1632.4NEWOA::ALFORD_JThe intermission fish...Thu Dec 19 1991 18:1717
>    Makes you wonder what it's all coming to really. I mean, only this week
>    they announced a huge rise in reported crime, a massive increase in car
>    thefts, all sorts of expensive "cures" for joy-riding, and then this
>    shit to catch speeding motorists.
    
Ah, but you see with all other types of crime, the police have to go out and
catch the offender, and then prove that the one they have caught actually
committed the crime, *lots* of hard work !  

With a speeding motorist the police just have to sit there and wait, the
"criminals" come to them, the police don't have to do much to get a 
conviction! 

Keeps their conviction rates up without too much effort required on their part.

:-)
1632.5MARVIN::RUSLINGHastings Upper Layers Project LeaderFri Dec 20 1991 13:2610
	Dangerous driving, which often involves speeding, kills and maims more 
	people than muggers or house burglers do.  Do we object to the police
	catching speeders because we think that that might be us?  If we are 
	doing criminal things, then we deserve the police's attention.

	The police booking speeding motorists, particularly in built up areas;
	and booking drunk drivers is fine by me.

	Dave
1632.6PLAYER::BROWNLWot's a rathole?Fri Dec 20 1991 14:3515
1632.7CURRNT::PACE::RUTTERRut The NutFri Dec 20 1991 15:155
>>            <<< Note 1632.6 by PLAYER::BROWNL "Wot's a rathole?" >>>
    
    Ask a randy rat !
    
    J.R.
1632.8A warning, not a trapSUBURB::LAINSBURYAI couldn't believe it !Fri Dec 20 1991 15:248
    The use of a cardboard is not there specifically to help catch and prosecute
    any budding Nigel Mansell's or Terry Fenwick's , but primarily just to
    slow traffic down.
    
    No figures to back this up, but I expect a great majority of motorway
    accidents are caused by excessive speeds. The cut-out is just to make
    motorists take their foot off and hopefully reduce the number of speed 
    related accidents. IMO of course.
1632.9SBPEXE::PREECEJust gimme the VAX, ma'am...Fri Dec 20 1991 17:4520
>>> Britain is getting more of a bloody Police state by the day, as I
>>>   cannot fail to notice when I go back there. God help you all, it's
>>> getting out of hand.
   

Surrendered your passport, then have you Laurie?


The idea of the imtiation cars is not new, they've been doing it in the
US and even some of the more enlightened European countries for years.

They used to use cardboard cut-out coppers stood at road junctions, to deter 
people from jumping the lights.....and it *worked*.

Anything that worries the nutters into slowing down and being a little
teeny bit careful, even for a mile or so, is fine by me.  Especially if it
frees up the real coppers to do something a little more constructive.


Ian
1632.10NEWOA::ALFORD_JThe intermission fish...Fri Dec 20 1991 17:5611
    
>    No figures to back this up, but I expect a great majority of motorway
>    accidents are caused by excessive speeds. 


This I doubt.  The great majority (IMO) are caused by stupidity, 
thoughtlessness and impatience.     

The cause of accidents on motorways is very rarely to do with just the speed,
it may be a contributory factor in the severity of the end result, but not
the cause.
1632.11PLAYER::BROWNLWot's a rathole?Fri Dec 20 1991 18:0918
1632.12There are no accidents, only mistakes!DOOZER::JENKINSYou want 'ken cabbageFri Dec 20 1991 20:266
    
    Re .3
    
    Agreed.
    
    
1632.14So far I've written off 12 cars but none was a GTI ;[)UFHIS::GVIPONDTue Jan 07 1992 12:1911
1632.15Not all bad...SHAWB1::WHITTLEITue Jan 07 1992 15:069
    
    They're not all bad these motorway police, the other day I was flagged
    down by a cardboard policeman in a cardboard patrol car. He asked me
    what speed I thought I had been doing & then let me off. He claimed he
    didn't really think he was *cut out* for the job!!!
    
    (Sorry, couldn't help it, the note seemed to need a bit of humour.)
    
    Ian...
1632.16From the west Atlantic...WMOIS::BOUDREAU_CFri Apr 17 1992 06:4710
    	In the US we call them donut munchers. I think if they tried the
    cardboard thing over here, It wouldn't last very long. They would be
    gone in less than 30 min.
    
    	In the PRM (people's republic of Massachusetts), the donut munchers
    are here strictly for revenue enhancement. They don't want to slow
    traffic down, they want to profit from the speed. You've got to watch
    those end of the month quotas :*)

    	Cary