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2282.1 | FF to $? | OASS::HEARSE::Burden_d | Keep Cool with Coolidge | Thu Jul 14 1994 22:25 | 3 |
| What's the current conversion rate for US $?
Dave
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2282.2 | Approx: $860 | HYLNDR::MKING | | Thu Jul 14 1994 23:39 | 6 |
| Not sure of the current FF exchange rate with anything, but it used to
hover around FF10 = 1 pound, and the US$ to Pound xchange rate is about 1.56
today. So as a rough cut FF5500=$860.
Plus the air-fare :-)
Martin
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2282.3 | | STAR::MWOLINSKI | uCoder sans Frontieres | Fri Jul 15 1994 01:43 | 10 |
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The current exchange rate is ff5.2 = $1.00 so the drive would cost
around $1057. assuming the rate doesn't drop any further. You can
get RT air to Paris for about $350.-$390.
-mike
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2282.4 | Now where's that holiday request form | VARDAF::CHURCH | Dave Church@VBE (DTN 828-6125) | Fri Jul 15 1994 12:29 | 15 |
| Patrick,
>>The AGS team, based at LE LUC EN PROVENCE circuit near TOULON, FRANCE
What happened to the name of "Circuit Paul Ricard"?
Is the entrance free for those that come along and just watch as it
could be a nice day out with the wife and kids?
You say that the 19th July session is sold out - out of interest how
many slots are there for each session?
Anyone got FF5500 spare? :-(
Dave
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2282.6 | Like Totally | FUTURS::LONGWY::LEWIS | Imagine being without a Newt | Fri Jul 15 1994 13:41 | 7 |
| > Should we organize a DEC F1 day ?
It would be rather rude not to !
How about 5 Sep. The Bol d'Or must be round about then.
Rob
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2282.7 | | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Fri Jul 15 1994 19:20 | 41 |
2282.8 | Too short notice | FUTURS::LONGWY::LEWIS | Imagine being without a Newt | Fri Jul 15 1994 19:40 | 6 |
| I have just been reminded that the 5th Sept is a no-no, as is the 20th
Aug :-(.
Any chance of planning something for next year ?
Rob
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2282.9 | If only... | VARDAF::CHURCH | Dave Church@VBE (DTN 828-6125) | Fri Jul 15 1994 20:11 | 30 |
| RE: .7
>>The Circuit Paul Ricard is another circuit (bigger one) located near
>>MARSEILLE. Le Luc is a smaller place than Paul Ricard. It is located
>>50km east of Paul Ricard, about halfway between MARSEILLE and VALBONNE.
Now that you come to mention it I did see another circuit marked on the
map when we were looking at taking a drive around the wine growing area
a couple of weeks back.
>>Apart from the circuit there is little to do. I think there is a bar
>>and a minigolf. The nearest town is something like 8km down the road.
>>The seaside (St Tropez) is some 40km south of the circuit (count 1
>>hour because of the twisty little roads, unles you practice rally
>>driving ...).
No problems concerning the other facilities basically we would take a
picnic with us and stay around for a couple of hours to watch a few
cars and then go onto other places for some wine testing :-)
>>Don't know but can easily find out. Other possibility is to book a
>>whole day for 10 DECcies. Would you be interested ?
Don't worry it was just a casual question. If we had the money spare
even my wife say do it. What with a few major bills coming up over the
next 3 months I think I'll have to skip it this year :-(
Dave
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2282.10 | We're off to see the wizard the wonderfull... | VARDAF::CHURCH | Dave Church@VBE (DTN 828-6125) | Mon Jul 18 1994 19:44 | 3 |
| Well as long as it doesn't rain again tomorrow were going down for a
couple of hours to have a look around and watch a few folks having a
go.
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2282.11 | Contact details?? | NEWOA::MACMILLAN | Redoubtable solutions a speciality | Tue Jul 19 1994 13:58 | 8 |
| Re .0
Patrick,
Have you got any contact details for this - where did you find out
about it?
Rob
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2282.12 | | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Tue Jul 19 1994 22:06 | 16 |
2282.13 | A nice day had by all | VARDAF::CHURCH | Dave Church@VBE (DTN 828-6125) | Wed Jul 20 1994 13:25 | 25 |
| Well we went to have a look - for those who are thinking about going
down to the cicuit it took under 30 minutes from Cannes to the Le Luc
exit and then it's about another 5 minutes after this on the D33.
The F1 cars that they used yesterday had race certificates from the
Hungarian GP 1989 and Spanish GP 1991. The Spanish GP car had the
drivers name of Tarquini on the side.
First car went out - no problems. Concerning the second car the first
driver out in it managed to land in a gravel trap on his first full
lap (the circuit is not that big at all so a lap is pretty quick). They
had to tow the car back to the factory to clean it out! Not sure about
the state of the drivers overalls but I imagine he was glad that they
were tight around the ankles :-)
We then went over to the factory and had a look around - shame we could
only spend about 5 minutes there as we had to leave to come back here.
For the kids (aged 3 and 5) we took them to a Turtle "village" which
was only 10 minutes drive away. Basically you turn right out from the
cicuit entrance and carry along the road until the D33/D75 junction
where you turn right, direction Gonfaron. For the adults there is also
some decent vineyards around where you can do some wine tasting and
pick up some reasonable stuff in 10 litre containers (which we bottle
at home).
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2282.14 | Next week eh! | VARDAF::CHURCH | Dave Church@VBE (DTN 828-6125) | Wed Jul 20 1994 14:17 | 16 |
| RE: .12
Patrick,
>>I'll spend some time there next week. Do you need anything ? For the
>>present time I've only got their price list (in french and FF). You can
>>obviously choose to do more than 3 laps in a AGS F1 but the prices go
>>up steep !
Do you have anything planned while you are there...?
I've got plenty of holiday days to use up :-) It's a shame Stuart B.
will be giving a course here next week otherwise I could have dragged
him along.
Dave
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2282.15 | | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Wed Jul 20 1994 14:35 | 14 |
2282.16 | | JURA::REPLAT::KEHILY | She probably lives in Tahiti | Wed Jul 20 1994 15:20 | 7 |
| Patrick,
Is this place the same as Le Luc airfield?
Cheers,
Graham.
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2282.17 | some directions | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Thu Jul 21 1994 17:11 | 12 |
2282.18 | Sep 5 | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Tue Aug 09 1994 22:01 | 3 |
| Just called AGS/F1. The Aug 19 session is full.
Seats available for the Sep 5. I'm in. Anyone else ?
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2282.19 | have camera will travel | VARDAF::CHURCH | Dave Church@VBE (DTN 828-6125) | Wed Aug 10 1994 13:36 | 6 |
| Patrick,
If you've got a video camera do you want me to pop along and film you -
hopefully not taking a plunge into the gravel trap like a guy before.
Dave
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2282.20 | | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Wed Aug 10 1994 15:26 | 3 |
2282.21 | | OASS::BURDEN_D | and a dozen grey attorneys | Wed Aug 10 1994 19:24 | 3 |
| Can we get one in the NA format or will the 8mm work on PAL and ours too?
Dave
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2282.22 | the report | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Tue Sep 13 1994 22:40 | 211 |
2282.23 | there were witnesses | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Tue Sep 13 1994 22:42 | 3 |
| re .22
Your turn Dave. Tell us what it really looked like ...
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2282.24 | | AIMTEC::BURDEN_D | A bear in his natural habitat | Wed Sep 14 1994 01:41 | 4 |
| Great report Patrick. Wonder if they could install FIA cameras on the cars and
make some more money selling tapes of your laps?
Dave (the other one)
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2282.25 | great idea | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Wed Sep 14 1994 14:43 | 11 |
2282.26 | And from the other side of the pit wall | VARDAF::CHURCH | Dave Church@VBE (DTN 828-6125) | Wed Sep 14 1994 15:56 | 52 |
2282.27 | | FORTY2::HOWELL | Just get to the point... | Wed Sep 14 1994 16:05 | 10 |
| re>> noise upon starting an F1
You think that's loud, try standing next to a funny car with open
headers when they start THAT up! Ringing for the next half hour....
(And try breathing when they switch the thing to run on alcohol, it
eats so much surrounding air and replaces it with burnt gas, you
physically find it hard to breathe!)
Dan$draghead
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2282.28 | I'll try again | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Wed Sep 14 1994 16:57 | 5 |
2282.29 | some thoughts | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Thu Sep 15 1994 17:47 | 21 |
| Minor (?) detail to bear in mind when discussing acceleration and
braking distances:
Weight to Power Ratio
Empty weight Power W/P ratio
(kg) (bhp) (kg per bhp)
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- city car 900 60 15
- family saloon 1200 150 8
- GM Euroseries 450 180 2.5
- AGS F1 505 600 .85
This shows that a difference in payload has little influence on a
family saloon but will make significant changes in driving a F1.
The other thing to consider is the aerodynamic load vs speed. At
whatever speed the family saloon will have an equal load on its
suspension and wheels (or get slightly lighter load due to wing effect).
Whereas the racecars will end up with over a ton even at medium speeds.
This definitely helps high speed braking (and cornering).
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2282.30 | | FORTY2::HOWELL | Just get to the point... | Thu Sep 15 1994 18:35 | 4 |
| I read somewhere that, although it's not official (ie. nobody's done it
in an F1) an F1 car could drive along a ceiling at xxx mph upside down and
not fall off.
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2282.31 | | METSYS::ALLEN | That's right, I was bounced. | Thu Sep 15 1994 19:28 | 9 |
| Yeah, I heard it aswell Dan...
...it was quoted onlong the lines of:
last years Williams Renault doing approx. 160mph could drive upside
down because of the downforce it creates.
...I think you must have read it in one of Dan RRs Mags last year,
because that's where I remember reading it!
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2282.32 | | AIMTEC::BURDEN_D | A bear in his natural habitat | Thu Sep 15 1994 19:34 | 3 |
| Doesn't M-B have a test track with banking that bends past vertical?
Dave
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2282.33 | I always wondered how they do it down south | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Thu Sep 15 1994 21:26 | 5
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