Conference terri::cars_uk

    try cellulose thinners, it works to remove that varnish they put on
    brass to stop it tarnishing.
    
    
    Regards martin

    Solvents the best bet..... if Cellulose thinners doesn't do the trick,
    try something like acetone, then an alcohol-based mix. Failing that and
    if the chromed bits can be easily removed from the car, try softening
    the lacquer with a hair drier and wiping off with a non-abruisive
    scourer (the sort sold for PTFE-coated pans).

    
    
    Nitromors.  Removed the old laquer off my motorbike engine casings in
    twenty minutes and then wash off with water.
    	
    	Wondefull stuff..
    
    
    	Chris..

	Have you tried Nail Varnish remover - it's good for getting tar
	 and stuff off paintwork ...


	And it's normally easy to borrow from your (... Mum , girlfrend , wife ...)


	Ian

    Nail Varnish Remover = Acetone (much cheaper and there's no perfume!)
    
    You could try come cellulose thinners.   
    
    Or even trichloroethane (aka carbontetrachloride, liquid paper thinners) 
    
    If all else fails, then some wicked stuff is dichloromethane. 
    Nitromors market it as paint brush restorer!
    
    But, you'll have to wear gloves, goggles etc. as it's quite lethal and
    will melt plastics
    
    Huw. (who splashed a bit on his forearm and it burnt like hell) 

>    Or even trichloroethane (aka carbontetrachloride, liquid paper thinners) 

    Trichloroethane    is    NOT    carbon    tetrachloride.   I   think 
    Trichloroethane is C2Cl3H (one day  I'll  figure  out  subscripts!!) 
    whilst  Carbon  Tet. is CCl4........in any case, we have been warned 
    off using Trichloroethane  because  it's  carcinogenic!!  (It's  the 
    solvent used in Gold Wipes)

    
    Hi Chris,
          Trichl..... is as you say a mild carinogen, but then so is bacon
    (hardening of the arteries etc) and I don't let this minor fact spoil
     MY breakfast.
    
      Alan..
    
    before some smart person asks why I eat Gold Wipes, I don't... I refer
    to the bacon.....
    

    the solvents mentioned are all different...... but are all basically
    chlorinated hydrocarbons.
    
    Nitromors contains Trichloroethane and Dichloroethane suspended in an
    aqueous gel of corn stach and sodium hydroxide. The organic solvents on
    their own will only degrease the skin which can cause dehydration and
    flaking. A couple back did mention the fact that most chlorinated
    hydrocarbons are carcinogenic to some extent: this typically happens to
    stuff that is absorbed in through the lungs so best not to inhale too
    much vapour. 
    
    When you splash Nitromors onto bare skin, the bit that hurts is the
    Caustic soda which is burning away at the flesh.

    Nitromors is the name of the company.
    
    They make many products, two of which are
    
    Paint stripper :-  a mixture of many things
    paint brush restorer :- 100% dichloromethane (I think, I'll check
    						   the tin tonite)
    
    Huw. (Who's realised how much he's forgotten since A-level)

re.4:

For tar just use petrol or a proprietary tar remover.

/Dave.

    If you go to a chandlers and ask for some No 1 Thinners from
    International it will do the trick.
    
    Pete

Trichloroethane is either CCl3CH3 or HCCl2CH2Cl.

Carbon tetrachloride is CCl4.

Both are mild carcinogens, but the real danger is that both are
highly toxic to the liver.  You don't want to breathe in too much of
this stuff.

Benzene and its derivatives (e.g., toluene) are fairly potent
carcinogens.

--PSW

Re: .13

Benzene is certainly carcinogenic, but toluene is much safer.  Other
benzene derivatives such as benzoic acid (really more closely related to
toluene) and some benzoates are approved food additives.

jb