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Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

1615.0. "Mini-Roundabouts" by SUBURB::ALLYS (Reality... No Digital !!) Thu Nov 28 1991 12:24

Does anybody know what the law is around mini roundabouts ??? i.e is it legal to 
go across them etc ???
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1615.1As I understand it.COMICS::COOMBERInverted Flight ExpertThu Nov 28 1991 13:0022
    someone correct me if I'm not 100% correct.
    
    	My understanding of the law relating to mini roundabout is that .
    
    	A) it is an offence to drive over a blob in the road, ie: where the 
    	   roundabout itself is more like a pimple on the road surface. And
    	   should be treated as a normal roundabout.
    
    	B) where the mini roundabout is a painted spot in the road , it is
    	   not an offence to drive over it, assuming that it is safe to do
    	   so.
    
    	In my experiance the painted spot type are often painted in
    	positions that are difficult to treat as a roundabout at the best
    	of times.They really only serve as some sort of traffic regulation 
    	at a junction that is busy at time and not others.  My guess is
    	that it is cheaper to paint a blob in the road that put traffic
    	lights at a junction that for the most of the time does not need a
    	set of traffic lights. Also it take a lot less effort to do.
    
    
    	Garry 
1615.2MARVIN::RUSLINGHastings Upper Layers Project LeaderThu Nov 28 1991 14:3216
	The painted types are used where there isn't room for cars to
	manouvre around a "pimple" (more particularly buses have
	trouble).  You can drive over them as long as they are not surrounded
	by an unbroken white line, which, as all drivers know, means
	that you cannot cross it (unless directed etc.).  Personally, I 
	ignore the line if it would mean problems getting around it.  I have
	seen cars desperately reversing and shuffling to get around a 
	very tight curve as they negotiate a painted roundabout!

	Dave

	To rat hole (slightly), I use the Reading road in Wokingham, it has
	cycle lanes painted down the sides (very commendable and useful when
	I cycle).  However, I often see cars straddling the (unbroken) white
	line - very naughty, there's plenty of room in the car's lane.
1615.3First you see it, then you remember itTIMMII::RDAVIESAn expert AmateurThu Nov 28 1991 15:0318
    Rightly or wrongly I don't know, but I view mini roundabouts as;
    
    	HAS got a roundabout sign on aproach, so give way to right applies
    
    	NOT got a keep left sign, so you do not have to 'circle' the
    	circle.
    
    The difference between pimple and paint is more I think to emphasise.
    e.g. when they put one in at the bottom of Park Lane Thatcham, it was a
    pimple. People couldn't miss it as it was raised off the surface,
    people got used to it.
    
    When they re-surfaced the road they just painted it back on. Regulars
    by now were aware of it's existance and carried on as before when it
    was a pimple.
    
    
    Richard