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Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

2241.0. "Fantasy Formula 1" by PEKING::ATKINSA (PRC Vauxman.) Fri Mar 18 1994 17:29

    
    	Is anyone interested in starting a Fantasy Formula 1 competition?
     Autocar and CarWeek have started to run there own comp,the rules of
     which are very straight forward.If anyone's interested i'll post the 
     rules and relevent phone number for entry,or we could run our own Noters
     Fantasy competition.
    
    
    
    	Anyone interested?
    
    	Andy.
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2241.1Better than the real thing ?WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Fri Mar 18 1994 17:4310
    
    ....Top Gear magazine is also running one, myself and a few friends are
    having a brainstorming session tomorow afternoon to come up with a few
    entries for each. The problem with the Top Gear entry tho' is that it
    has to be on the official entry form which is 'free' with the mag.
    
    I'd be on for a noters version, BTW.
    
    
    Graham
2241.2AUTOSPORT fantasy F1COMICS::RHASKINGReasons to be cheerful - part 3Fri Mar 18 1994 18:0713
I've already registered on the Autosport competition which I believe is the same
as Autocar/Motor but not Carweeks.


The phone call lasts approx 5 mins with the first 2 minutes comprising of a -

'Mr voice-over-man' describing the rules..



Should cause a bit of interest and fun...

Rob
2241.3OASS::STDBKR::Burden_dKeep Cool with CoolidgeFri Mar 18 1994 20:393
Yes, I'd be up for trying this.  Who has the rules?

Dave
2241.4Rules and RegsPEKING::ATKINSAPRC Vauxman.Mon Mar 21 1994 11:3860
    
    These are the rules according to Autocar mag.
    
    	How it Works:
    
    
    	You are a grand prix team manager,and you have a budget of
    	30 million pounds.With this,you must have 2 drivers.a test driver,a
    	chassis and an engine from the shopping list.You will run 2
    	cars,both of which must share the same chassis/engine combination
    	(the prices quoted are for 2 of each).
    	With your team assembled,the aim is to score as many points as 
    	possible based on the results of the first part of the season.The
    	manager of he team who has scored the most points by the end of the 
    	series.
    	
    	The Ground rules:
    
    	YOU MUST NOT exceed your budget of 30 million,select a driver twice
    	or chose a test driver who costs more than 1 million.
    
    	To help you choose your engine,remember that the Ford-Zetec-R is
    	the engine used exclusively by Benetton,while the Ford HB V8 is the
    	one used by the other Ford-Powered Teams.The Mercedes is the unit
    	used by the Sauber,and the Ilmor by Pacific.In fantasy GP you can
    	mix how you like.
    
    	How to score:
    
    	Points are awarded according to the resuls of the 1994 GP.The 
    	Your team will score points in the following manner.Both your
    	drivers can score points.They score 10 points for finishing in
    	the top six,plus the points awarded in real life for that position-
    	- 10,6,4,3,2 and 1 for the six drivers home.Thus a win is worth
    	20 points (10 + 10),second place 16 points (10 + 6),third 
    	14 (10 + 4)etc.If one of your choices drops out of the champoinship
    	tough luck.
    	
    	You loose 5 points if your driver posts the race's first
    	retirement,four being deducted for the second retirement and so
    	on to the loss of a point for the fifth retirement.Non
    	qualification costs 5 points.The test drive will score points only
    	if he competes on a GP weekend,these points being allocated on the
    	same basis as his team mates.
    	  Chassis score points in a different fashion,with double the
    	normal points score e.g. 20 (2 x 10)for first,down to 2 (2 x 1) for
    	sixth.Only one chassis can score points per team,so a car can score
    	points for finishing 7th if there are two cars from another team in
    	the top six.Points are deducted for the first five cars to
        retire,on the same basis as for the drivers.
    	  Engine score in the same manner as the chassis,albeit with no
    	point deductions for retirements.Again you can only score engine
    	points once for your team.
    
    The shopping list is on the next note.
    
    If any of you have anything you would like to see added or changed in
    the rules then please say.
    
    Andy.
2241.5 DRIVERS PEKING::ATKINSAPRC Vauxman.Mon Mar 21 1994 11:5759
    
    
    
    
    		SHOPPING LIST.
    
    
    All prices are in pounds.
    
    	DRIVERS                          CHASSIS.
    23m					18m
    1.Ayrton Senna			Williams
    20m					14m
    2.Damon Hill			Benneton
    3.Michael Schumacher		Maclaren
    15m                                 10m
    4.Jean Alesi			Ferrari
    5.Gerhard Berger			8m
    6.Marin Brundle			Sauber
    7.Mikka Hakkinen			6m
    10m					Ligier
    8.JJ Lehto				5m
    9.Karl Wendlinger		        Jordan
    7m					4m
    10.Rubens Barrichello		Arrows
    11.Heinz-Harald                     Lotus
       Frentzen                         Minardi
    12.Johnny Herbert			2m
    5m                                  Larrousse
    13.Mark Blundell                    Tyrell
    14.Christian Fittipaldi		1m
    15.Eddie Irvine			Pacific
    4m					Simtek
    16.Eric Bernard
    17.Pedro Lamy			ENGINES:
    18.Pierluigi Martini		16m
    19.Jos verstappen  			Renault
    2m                                  12m
    20.Michael Alboreto			Ford Zetec-R
    21.Erik Comas			Peugeot
    22.Gianni Morbidelli		10m
    1m					Ferrari
    23.Paul Belmondo			8m
    24.Olivier Beretta			Ford HB V8
    25.David Brabham			Mercedes
    26.Emmanual Collard			4m
    27.David Coulthard	 		Mugen	
    28.Yannick Dalmas			2m
    29.Fabrizio de Simone		Hart
    30.Bertrand Gachot                  Ilmor
    31.Oliver Gavin			1m
    32.Ukyo Katayama			Yamaha
    33.Nicpla Larini
    34.Allan Mcnish
    35.Olivier Panis
    36.Rolans Ratzenberger
    37.Alessandro Zanardi.
    
    Andy
2241.6Now if I had 78m to spendTRUCKS::HAYCOX_IIanMon Mar 21 1994 17:3015
    Ok, I'll have first shot,
    
    Mikka Hakkinen            15m
    Eric Bernard               4m
    Alessandro Zanardi         1m
    
    Tyrell                     2m
    Ford HB V8                 8m
                              ---
                              30m
    
    Basically I'm banking on Mikka and Ford power to pull me through the
    season.
    
    Ian.
2241.7Another prospective Frank Williams....NACCEE::MCCABEMon Mar 21 1994 19:3210
	Barrichello	7 million
	Brabham		1 million
	Gachot		1 million

	Jordan		5 million
	Renault		16 million

	I still think that engines are the most important 
	factor, and will remain so this year. 
2241.8working on my team....OASS::STDBKR::Burden_dKeep Cool with CoolidgeMon Mar 21 1994 20:433
Andy, have you volunteered to keep track of all the scores?

Dave (how much for a Studebaker engine and/or chassis???)
2241.9Team Studebaker!OASS::STDBKR::Burden_dKeep Cool with CoolidgeMon Mar 21 1994 21:019
Schumacher (15m)
Gachot (1m)
Beretta (1m)

Jordan (5m)
Mercedes (8m)


Dave
2241.10PricelessPEKING::ATKINSAPRC Vauxman.Tue Mar 22 1994 11:1212
2241.11UFHIS::GVIPONDTue Mar 22 1994 12:4916
     
    	
    
    	Lotus	  4
    	Renault  16
	Herbert   7
    	Comas	  2
    	Gachot    1
    		 --
    	         30
    
        What does the winner receive ?, how about a full expenses paid trip
    to see the first race of 95, paid for by Digital Sports and Social ;-).
    
    Garry
    
2241.12Yeah! right! Not!PEKING::ATKINSAPRC Vauxman.Tue Mar 22 1994 13:219
    
    RE-1 trip to see first race if 95 paid for by Digital.
    
    
    The words chance and no spring to mind.
    
    Andy
    
    	;-)
2241.13Championship Winning Team MaterialEASE::SMYTHTue Mar 22 1994 14:5418

Drivers :

Johnny Herbert		7m
Rubens Barichello	7m
Bertrand Gachot		1m

Chassis	:

Jordan			5m

Engine 	:

Mercedes		8m

-----------------------------
Total :			28m
2241.14I can dream can't IOTOOA::LAVIGNETue Mar 22 1994 16:589
    Blundell 	5M
    Ferrari	10M
    Ferrari	10M
    Bernard	4M
    Zanardi	1M
    
    Ferrari to win the constructors title!!!!!!!!
    Regards,
    JP Lavigne
2241.15ESSB::JMORRISSEYTue Mar 22 1994 17:1311
    Rubens Barichello       (7m)
    Erik Comas              (2m)
    Bertrand Gachot         (1m)
    
    Williams               (18m)
    
    Hart                    (2m)
                            ====
                            30m
    
    John.
2241.16Selhurst RacingYUPPY::PATEMANSome Fantastic PlaceTue Mar 22 1994 18:3413
    As to be entered in Autosport:
    
    Berger	#15m
    Alboreto	# 2m
    Katayama	# 1m
    Sauber	# 8m
    Hart	# 2m
                ----
    		#28m
    
    Consistency in all departments
    
    Paul
2241.17Fido FlyersNEWOA::FIDO_TConation is the keyTue Mar 22 1994 18:587
2241.18Ferrari's year at last ??IRNBRU::MACKENZIEWed Mar 23 1994 13:459
				
Driver 1: Jean Alesi		15
Driver 2: Bertrand Gachot	1
Test Dvr: Alessandro Zanardi	1

Chassis: Pacific		1
Engine : Ford Zetec-R		12
			       ---
			       $30
2241.19take it away Ayrton....WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Wed Mar 23 1994 17:0114
    
    My tuppence worth....
    
    Senna	23
    Alboreto	 2
    Ratzenberger 1
    
    
    Tyrell	 2
    
    Ilmor	 2
    
    
    	Graham
2241.20WOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyWed Mar 23 1994 20:2210
    Senna    23
    Comas     2
    Brabham   1
    
    Tyrell    2
    Hart      2
             --
    	     30
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.21Robbo GPCOMICS::RHASKINGReasons to be cheerful - part 3Wed Mar 23 1994 20:5711
As entered in Autosport -

	Frentzen	 7
	Blundell	 5
	Coulthard 	 1
	Jordan		 5
	Ford Zetec	12
			...
			30

Rob
2241.22E220 RIPMILE::JENKINSNorfolk enchanceWed Mar 23 1994 21:3213
    
    
    Drivers : Lehto		10m
    	      Wendlinger	10m
    
    Spare   : Panis		 1m
    
    Chassis : Simtek		 1m
    
    Engine  : Mercedes V10	 8m
    
    				---
                                30m
2241.23KERNEL::JUDDGeoff Judd. UK TSC. Viables, BasingstokeThu Mar 24 1994 00:2410
    
    	Barrichello	7m
    	Martini		4m
    	Beretta		1m
    
    	Ligier		6m
    
    	Ford Zetec-R   12m
    
    Geoff Judd.
2241.24RJD F1UBOHUB::DIGGINS_RThu Mar 24 1994 05:199
    My Selections are as follows:
    
    Martin Brundle 15 million
    Gianni Morbidelli 2 million
    Bertrand Gachot 1 million
    Arrows chassis  4 million
    Ford HB V8 engine 8 million
    
    Total cost 30 million a bargain at half the price!!
2241.25Rule clarification pleaseWOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyThu Mar 24 1994 13:0314
     >> Only one chassis can score points per team,so a car can score
     >> points for finishing 7th if there are two cars from another team in
     >>	the top six.
    
        Does this mean that if say Williams, McLaren and Benneton fill the
        top six places, points can be awarded up to 9th place?
    
     >> The test drive will score points only if he competes on a GP weekend,
     >> these points being allocated on the same basis as his team mates. 
    
    	What happens if your test driver doesn't qualify? Do you lose 5
        points?
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.26Fantasy Grand Prix TeamWOTVAX::GILLILANDMThu Mar 24 1994 18:0411
    
    
    Chassis	Maclaren	14
    Engine	Ford Zetec-R	12
    Driver 1	Erik Comas	 2
    Driver 2	Olivier Beretta	 1
    Driver 3	Bertrand Gachot	 1
           			__
    				30
    
    		Maria Gilliland
2241.27HakknHerb GP RacingRDGENG::BURGESSShe loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah.Thu Mar 24 1994 18:1616
    
    Hakkinen       15m
    Herbert         7m
    
    Brabham         1m
    
    
    Jordan          5m
    Hart	    2m
    
    
    Total          30m
    
                                                       
    
    Terry Burgess
2241.28Anymore for anymore!PEKING::ATKINSAPRC Vauxman.Fri Mar 25 1994 11:3416
    
    With reference to scoring clarification.
    
    	If Beneton,Williams and Mclaren take up the 6 finishing places then
    	the top points scorer from each team will score the actual
    	points,and so points will be allocated for 9th position.
    
    	The other point is if the test driver has been scheduled to drive
    	(as I beleive Jos Verstappen is scheduled to race for J.J.Lehto,who I 
    	believe had a neck injury)then the same scoring principle applies
    	as with first choice drivers,and you will have 5 points deducted
        for non qualification.
    
    	I hope this clears things up!
    
    	Andy.
2241.29My Team For Th'cupBLKPUD::ROWEMFrank Gamballi's Trousers!Fri Mar 25 1994 13:0819
    
    My Team for the Cup.....
    
    Chassis		Bennetton		14m
    
    Engine		Ferrari        		10m
    
    Driver 1		Pedro Lamy    		 4m
    
    Driver 2		Roland RATzenberger	 1m
    
    Driver 3		David Brabham		 1m
    
    
    Here's Hoping...
    
    Matt.
    
    
2241.30Lehto liabilityRDGENG::BURGESSShe loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah.Fri Mar 25 1994 13:533
    So Lehto not racing this weekend scores minus 5 points?
    
    Terry B
2241.31I welcome any comments.PEKING::ATKINSAPRC Vauxman.Fri Mar 25 1994 14:409
    
    If your driver doesn't race,you score no points.Only if your driver's 
    schedeuled to race and doesn't qualify do you lose 5 points.
    
    	I hope I haven't contradicted myself anywhere!
    	
    Anymore!
    
    Andy.
2241.33Gachdell LigiaultCMOTEC::JASPERStuck on the Flypaper of LifeFri Mar 25 1994 15:3311
    
    Driver 1	Blundell	5
    Driver 2	Comas		2
    Driver 3	Gachot		1
    
    Team	Ligier		6
    Engine	Renault		16
    				--
    				30
    
    Tony	
2241.34COMICS::MCSKEANEfollow that nun!!!!Fri Mar 25 1994 15:338
    
    Driver #1 Barrichello 7
    Driver #2 Martini     4
    Test Driver Panis     1
    Chassis Ligier        6
    Engine  Ford Zetec   12
                         --
                         30
2241.35Sure winnersTFH::JROGERSFri Mar 25 1994 18:5510
  Here goes:

    Brundle    15M
    Martini     4M
    Brabham     1M

    Tyrell      2M
    Ford V8 HB  8M

    Total      30M
2241.36WARFUT::DUNCANFri Mar 25 1994 20:251
    zz
2241.37 Duncan DriversWARFUT::DUNCANFri Mar 25 1994 20:3714
2241.38Simple application to manage league availableTRUCKS::HAYCOX_IIanFri Mar 25 1994 20:5513
    Who ever is going to manage this may like to use a Visual Basic
    application I have just written.
    
    You enter each of the teams and then the race results as they occur.
    
    A grid is displayed showing each teams' progress for each race and a total
    for the season.
    
    You will need a PC of some sort.
    
    If you want a copy and have VB Pro. then drop us a line.
    
    Ian.
2241.39F-1 on a Budget, NO WAY !TURRIS::BRADOR::ZUFELTV12 @13k music to my earsFri Mar 25 1994 21:3124
    Her's my try:
    
    Drivers:
    		Karl Wendlinger		10
    		Johnny Herbert		 7
    
    	Test Driver
    		David Brabham		 1
    
    Chassis:
    		Ferrari			10
    
    Engine:
    		Yamaha			 1
    					---
    				total	 29
    
    Need more money to run the team I really want !
    
    I guess I'll have to fire my marketing manager.
    
    Regards
    Fred
        
2241.40Williams by name Williams by natureTRUCKS::WILLIAMS_CCaroline - SAP IST 782-2413Fri Mar 25 1994 21:3314
    Here's my entry :
    
    Driver 1	Michael Alboreto
    Driver 2	David Coulthard
    
    Test Driver Roland Ratzenburger
    
    Chassis	Williams
    
    Engine	Ford HB V8
    
    
    Caroline (Banking on Williams winning a lot!)
    
2241.41Iartyron = Aytron,According to Murrey.PEKING::ATKINSAPRC Vauxman.Mon Mar 28 1994 12:1013
    
    RE VB.
    
    	I wouldn't mind a copy of your program,it'll certainly help.I'm in
    the middle of writing one in C,but I can't find the time.
    
    	I'll enter all the scores when I finish collating them,but they'll
    	be unofficial until I obtain this weeks Autosport.
    
    	What a good race for Schumacher,Alesi,Baricello,Wendlinger.
    
    Andy.
                                                        
2241.42Getting ImpatientWOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyThu Mar 31 1994 20:423
    So where are these results then?
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.43Gale force!PEKING::ATKINSAPRC Vauxman.Thu Mar 31 1994 20:5111
    
    
    	Apologies impatient one.
    
    	I've been busy,you'll see them on Tuesday.
    
    	Have a good Easter one and all.
    
    	Drive Safe.It's windy.
    
    	Andy
2241.44Better Late Than Not At AllNWD002::MARTINMISat Apr 02 1994 06:255
    I hope it's not too late to play.  Here are my choices
    Drivers:  Lehto,  Barrichello,  (test) Katayama
    Chassis:  Ferrari    Engine:  Hart
    If it is too late, how about letting me play with no points for 
    the first race?
2241.45Any Particular Tuesday?BLKPUD::ROWEMFrank Gamballi's Trousers!Thu Apr 07 1994 13:354
    What day is it?
    Ah maybe he means NEXT tuesday?????
         
    Matt.
2241.46Deputy scorerWOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyFri Apr 08 1994 18:3210
    Rather than keep hassling Andy, who appears to be a bit busy at the
    moment, I shall volunteer to be deputy scorer in his absense. The
    scores in the following note have been calculated manually with only
    the aid of a pen and paper and a copy of `Car Week'. I have checked
    them twice but would advise you to check your own score. Also read the
    notes at the bottom of the list.
    
    Phil Gill.
    
    P.S. Where's your team Andy?
2241.47Results after Round 1 - BrazilWOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyFri Apr 08 1994 19:0038
2241.48COMICS::SHELLEYBugs B GoneFri Apr 08 1994 19:326
2241.49Revised ResultsWOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyMon Apr 11 1994 12:4835
    It has been pointed out to me that NWD002::MARTINM's note was entered
    on the Saturday after the race, not on the day of the race as I had
    incorrectly assumed (without checking, sorry). The score is too high to
    allow, but I'm sure we can let him play starting from the next race.
    Everyone now moves up a place.
    
    Revised Results After Round 1
    -----------------------------
     
     1)	COMICS::MCSKEANE	33
    =2)	NEWOA::FIDO_T		29
    =2)	KERNELL::JUDD		29
    =4) COMICS::RHASKING	26
    =4) NACCEE::MCCABE		26
    =4) ESSB::MORRISSEY		26
     7) IRNBRU::MACKENZIE	24
     8) BLKPUD::ROWEM		23
     9) TURRIS::BRADOR::ZUFELT	20
    10) OASS::STDBKR		19
   =11) YUPPY::PATEMAN		16
   =11) EASE::SMYTH		16
   =13) MILE::JENKINS		13
   =13) OTOOA::LAVIGNE		13
    15) RDGENG::BURGESS		12
    16) WOTVAX::GILLLILANDM	11
    17) WOTVAX::GILLILANDP	10
   =18) UFHIS::GVIPOND		7
   =18) CMOTEC::JASPER		7
    20) TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C	6
   =21)	TFH::JROGERS		4
   =21) TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I	4
    23) WARFUT::DUNCAN		2
    24) WOTVAX::STONEG	       -2
    25) UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R      -7
    26) NWD002::MARTINM       DNQ
2241.50NEWOA::FIDO_TConation is the keyMon Apr 11 1994 13:295
    I am quite happy to check my own score if someone can provide all the
    relevant information, which I guess is going to be quite a lot of work.
    Maybe someone can scan the points from the magazine in ?
    
    Terry
2241.51 Back!PEKING::ATKINSAPRC Vauxman.Mon Apr 11 1994 13:4311
    
    
    Back today,I've been abscent due to illness.Thanks to Phil for
    volunteering to be the deputy scorer,you've done a excellent job!
    I can only apologies to all the other noters.
    
    My team isn't in as I wanted to be an unbiased scorer.
    
    	Thanks again Phil.
    
    	Andy
2241.52Team LincolnLARVAE::LINCOLN_JThu Apr 14 1994 21:5515
		Starting from the Pit Lane
		--------------------------

	Now that I've got around to reading the rules here's my
	entry. A bit late I know but then I score none for the first
	race?.

	Drivers H-H frentzen & R Barrichello
	Standby N Larini
	Car     Yamaha powered Benneton

	-John

	PS Team Studebaker (.9) must be forced to pull out. Owner
	arrested for false accounting!
2241.53The Score PoliceWOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyFri Apr 15 1994 13:2710
    >> PS Team Studebaker (.9) must be forced to pull out. Owner
    >> arrested for false accounting!
    
    Well spotted. OASS::STDBKR your team cost comes to 35 million pounds,
    please revise it. As you have broken the rules by a factor of 1/6th, I
    think we should reduce your points by the same amount :-)
    
    Revised table follows.
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.55Results after Round 1 V3.0WOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyFri Apr 15 1994 13:4926
     1) COMICS::MCSKEANE        33
    =2) NEWOA::FIDO_T           29
    =2) KERNELL::JUDD           29
    =4) COMICS::RHASKING        26
    =4) ESSB::MORRISSEY         26
     7) IRNBRU::MACKENZIE       24
     8) BLKPUD::ROWEM           23
     9) TURRIS::BRADOR::ZUFELT  20
   =10) OASS::STDBKR            16
   =10) YUPPY::PATEMAN          16
   =10) EASE::SMYTH             16
   =13) MILE::JENKINS           13
   =13) OTOOA::LAVIGNE          13
    15) RDGENG::BURGESS         12
    16) WOTVAX::GILLILANDM      11
    17) WOTVAX::GILLILANDP      10
   =18) UFHIS::GVIPOND          7
   =18) CMOTEC::JASPER          7
    20) TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C      6
   =21) TFH::JROGERS            4
   =21) TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I        4
    23) WARFUT::DUNCAN          2
    24) WOTVAX::STONEG         -2
    25) UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R      -7
    26) NWD002::MARTINM       DNQ
    
2241.56Not too late am I ???SUBURB::ALLYSFri Apr 15 1994 14:0721
2241.57A recount?IE::MCCABEFri Apr 15 1994 15:329
    missing from the results listing in .55
    
    =4) NACCEE::MCCABE		26
    
    Or have I suffered the fate of Irvine and been disqualified for a 
    crime I didn't committ?
    
    Terry
    (I was in the first results listing)
2241.58Cut-and-missWOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyFri Apr 15 1994 17:2432
    Sorry Terry, cut-and-paste wasn't working too well on my system this
    morning. You're still in there at =4. 
    
    Phil Gill.
    
         1) COMICS::MCSKEANE        33
        =2) NEWOA::FIDO_T           29
        =2) KERNELL::JUDD           29
        =4) COMICS::RHASKING        26
        =4) ESSB::MORRISSEY         26
        =4) NACCEE::MCCABE	    26
         7) IRNBRU::MACKENZIE       24
         8) BLKPUD::ROWEM           23
         9) TURRIS::BRADOR::ZUFELT  20
       =10) OASS::STDBKR            16
       =10) YUPPY::PATEMAN          16
       =10) EASE::SMYTH             16
       =13) MILE::JENKINS           13
       =13) OTOOA::LAVIGNE          13
        15) RDGENG::BURGESS         12
        16) WOTVAX::GILLILANDM      11
        17) WOTVAX::GILLILANDP      10
       =18) UFHIS::GVIPOND          7
       =18) CMOTEC::JASPER          7
        20) TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C      6
       =21) TFH::JROGERS            4
       =21) TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I        4
        23) WARFUT::DUNCAN          2
        24) WOTVAX::STONEG         -2
        25) UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R      -7
        26) NWD002::MARTINM       DNQ
    
2241.59Schumacher (15m) Gachot (1m) Beretta (1m) Jordan (5m) Mercedes (8m) Team Studebaker - revisedOASS::HEARSE::Burden_dKeep Cool with CoolidgeMon Apr 18 1994 18:1419
>Schumacher (15m) - this should have been 20m
>Gachot (1m)
>Beretta (1m)

Keep the drivers the same

>Jordan (5m)
>Mercedes (8m)

Change to:

Ligier (6m)
Hart (2)

Drivers - 22m
Car - 8m
Total - 30m

Dave
2241.60SAC::HAYCOX_IIanSat Apr 23 1994 20:085
    re .56
    
    Your entry went in as 2099.403
    
    Ian.
2241.61To score or not To score?BLKPUD::ROWEMFrank Gamballi's Trousers!Mon Apr 25 1994 14:486
    
    Andy, Is there a problem with posting the scores?
    Perhaps if your tied up, Phill wouldn't mind stepping
    in again?????
    
    Matt
2241.62WOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyMon Apr 25 1994 15:485
    Well as I have had the scores ready since Thursday morning, it would be
    a shame to waste them if Andy is still busy. I don't mind entering them
    if nobody else minds?
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.63oh yes please Phillip....BLKPUD::ROWEMFrank Gamballi's Trousers!Mon Apr 25 1994 18:514
    hit it hit it !
    
    Ta Matt.
    
2241.64Results of Round 2 (Pacific GP)WARFUT::GILLILANDMon Apr 25 1994 19:2531
2241.65Positions After 2 RoundsWARFUT::GILLILANDMon Apr 25 1994 19:2936
2241.66KIRKTN::EGRANTMon Apr 25 1994 21:2818
    
    
    		Can you let a late starter join....
    
    	   Team.......Lotus              4 mill
    
    	   Engine.....Ford Zetec-R      12 mill
    
    	   Driver 1...JJ Lehto          10 mill
    
    	   Driver 2...M.Alboreto         2 mill
    
    	   Test Drv...O.Beretta          1 mill
                                                 
    					29 mill  
    
	    
    						Eck.
2241.68You're inWOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyTue Apr 26 1994 13:2911
    KIRKTN::EGRANT and SUBURB::ALLYS (apologies for missing your entry in
    .56) added to the score sheet. 
    
    Incidentally, if anybody wants to know how I arrived at their personal 
    score, or has any other queries about the scoring, feel free to mail
    me about it. I had a chat with Andy Atkins the other day. We clarified
    some of the ambiguous points of the scoring, but Andy is very busy
    following a move. I shall continue to do the scores until he tells me
    otherwise.
    
    Phil Gill.   
2241.69If you can.48430::VIPONDTue Apr 26 1994 17:097
    
    If you have the info already, would it be possible to enter the results
    of the races, ie who retired and on what lap & why ? I ask because I've
    missed the last 2 races and look like I'll miss the rest. Maybe this is
    the wrong note anyway.
    
    Garry, 
2241.70Update ??SUBURB::ALLYSWed Apr 27 1994 15:287
Phil,

If you have added me to the score sheet will you re-issue the updated 
score sheet ?? 


Shaz
2241.71LARVAE::LINCOLN_JWed Apr 27 1994 17:2515
	Well I can't complain about my first race (top) but it's
	ironic to note that having missed the first race but 
	presumably gained from the latest news I chose Larini
	as my third driver on the principle that I would at least
	get one race out of him!.

	Result score -5 for Larini. Actually It seemed that Senna
	was the first retirement, but than it could also be argued
	that Larini covered least distance, or again that Larini
	only covered least distance because Sennas car prevented him 
	from getting any further.

	How is the retirement order determined - from a magazine?

	-John
2241.72WOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyWed Apr 27 1994 18:1512
    Shaz, what I meant was that I have added you to the scoresheet for
    future races. If you want me to I will recalculate the scores with your
    entry included from the last race, but that will have to wait until
    Friday when I get back to the office where all my information is.
    
    >> How is the retirement order determined - from a magazine?
    
    From the official results, which are published in several magazines.
    The one I use is Car Week, which has the clearest layout for
    working out scores.
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.73Results after 2 rounds (with SUBURB::ALLYS added)WOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyFri Apr 29 1994 16:0131
                Name                    Total
    
             1  COMICS::MCSKEANE         67
            =2  KERNEL::JUDD             62
            =2  COMICS::RHASKING         62
             4  BLKPUD::ROWEM            53
             5  ESSB::JMORRISSEY         51
             6  YUPPY::PATEMAN           44
            =7  NACCEE::MCCABE           41
            =7  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J        41          
             9  IRNBRU::MACKENZIE        39
             10 OASS::STDBKR             38
             11 EASE::SMYTH              37
             12 WOTVAX::GILLILANDM       36
             13 NEWOA::FIDO_T            33
             14 NWD002::MARTINMI         29
             15 OTOOA::LAVIGNE           28
             16 RDGENG::BURGESS          26
             17 TURRIS::BRADOR::ZUFELT   25
            =18 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP       20
            =18 SUBURB::ALLYS            20
    	     20 MILE::JENKINS            15
             21 UFHIS::GVIPOND           13
            =22 CMOTEC::JASPER            9
            =22 TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C        9
             24 WARFUT::DUNCAN            8
             25 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I          6
             26 TFH::JROGERS              4
             27 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R        -2
             28 WOTVAX::STONEG           -9
    
2241.74Results of Round 3 (San Marino)WARFUT::GILLILANDWed May 04 1994 14:0932
        Name                    Score
    
     =1 NEWOA::FIDO_T            31
     =1 LARVAE::LINCOLN_J        31
      3 TURRIS::BRADOR::ZUFELT   28
      4 WOTVAX::GILLILANDM       25
      5 OTOOA::LAVIGNE           23
     =6 IRNBRU::MACKENZIE        20
     =6 OASS::STDBKR             20
     =6 COMICS::RHASKING         20
     =9 BLKPUD::ROWEM            18
     =9 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I         18
     11 YUPPY::PATEMAN           17
     12 SUBURB::ALLYS            16
    =13 COMICS::MCSKEANE         15
    =13 MILE::JENKINS            15
    =13 KERNEL::JUDD             15
    =16 NWD002::MARTINMI         14
    =16 RDGENG::BURGESS          14
     18 KIRKTN:EGRANT            11
     19 WARFUT::DUNCAN            6
     20 TFH::JROGERS              4
     21 EASE::SMYTH               1
     22 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R         0
    =23 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP       -1
    =23 CMOTEC::JASPER           -1
    =25 NACCEE::MCCABE           -3
    =25 WOTVAX::STONEG           -3
     27 TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C       -5
     28 UFHIS::GVIPOND           -6
     29 ESSB::JMORRISSEY         -8
    
2241.75Positions after 3 RoundsWARFUT::GILLILANDWed May 04 1994 14:1832
         Name                  Total
                              
     =1 COMICS::RHASKING         82
     =1 COMICS::MCSKEANE         82
      3 KERNEL::JUDD             77
      4 LARVAE::LINCOLN_J        72
      5 BLKPUD::ROWEM            71
      6 NEWOA::FIDO_T            64
     =7 WOTVAX::GILLILANDM       61
     =7 YUPPY::PATEMAN           61
      9 IRNBRU::MACKENZIE        59
     10 OASS::STDBKR             58
     11 TURRIS::BRADOR::ZUFELT   53
     12 OTOOA::LAVIGNE           51
    =13 ESSB::JMORRISSEY         43
    =13 NWD002::MARTINMI         43
     15 RDGENG::BURGESS          40
    =16 EASE::SMYTH              38
    =16 NACCEE::MCCABE           38
     18 SUBURB::ALLYS            36
     19 MILE::JENKINS            30
     20 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I         24
     21 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP       19
     22 WARFUT::DUNCAN           14
     23 KIRKTN:EGRANT            11
    =24 CMOTEC::JASPER            8
    =24 TFH::JROGERS              8
     26 UFHIS::GVIPOND            7
     27 TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C        4
     28 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R        -2
     29 WOTVAX::STONEG          -12
    
2241.76Results of Round 4 - MonacoWARFUT::GILLILANDWed May 18 1994 14:1348
       Name		      Points
    
    1  SUBURB::ALLYS            35
    2  IRNBRU::MACKENZIE        32
   =3  YUPPY::PATEMAN           31
   =3  KIRKTN:EGRANT            31
    5  WOTVAX::GILLILANDM       29
    6  BLKPUD::ROWEM            28
    7  OASS::STDBKR             26
    8  COMICS::RHASKING         25
    9  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J        19
    10 OTOOA::LAVIGNE           16
    11 TFH::JROGERS             15
   =12 KERNEL::JUDD             14
   =12 COMICS::MCSKEANE         14
   =14 TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C       13
   =14 NWD002::MARTINMI         13
    16 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R        12
    17 WOTVAX::STONEG           11
   =18 TURRIS::BRADOR::ZUFELT    8
   =18 RDGENG::BURGESS           8
   =20 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP        6
   =20 NACCEE::MCCABE            6
   =22 EASE::SMYTH               4
   =22 WARFUT::DUNCAN            4
    24 ESSB::JMORRISSEY          3
   =25 UFHIS::GVIPOND            2
   =25 CMOTEC::JASPER            2
    27 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I          1
   =28 NEWOA::FIDO_T             0
   =28 MILE::JENKINS             0
    
    Notes:
    
    McLaren score 12 + (-3)
    Jordon  score  6 + (-1)
    
    Ferrari engine scores from the higher of its 2 placings.
    This means that 7th place now becomes eligible, but this is a Ford
    Zetec which has already scored in 1st place, so we look to 8th place. 
    This is a Ford HB which has already scored at 6th place (Alboreto) so 
    the Renault engine of Panis in 9th place scores 2 points.
    
    A similar situatuion occurs with the chassis's: 2 Ferraris in the top
    6, Benetton at 7th (already scored in 1st place) so 2 points awarded to 
    Beretta's Larousse in 8th place. Nobody has a Larousse in their team.
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.77Positions after 4 RoundsWARFUT::GILLILANDWed May 18 1994 14:2633
       Name                    Total
    
    1  COMICS::RHASKING         107
    2  BLKPUD::ROWEM            99
    3  COMICS::MCSKEANE         96
    4  YUPPY::PATEMAN           92
   =5  KERNEL::JUDD             91
   =5  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J        91
   =5  IRNBRU::MACKENZIE        91
    8  WOTVAX::GILLILANDM       90
    9  OASS::STDBKR             84
    10 SUBURB::ALLYS            71
    11 OTOOA::LAVIGNE           67
    12 NEWOA::FIDO_T            64
    13 TURRIS::BRADOR::ZUFELT   61
    14 NWD002::MARTINMI         56
    15 RDGENG::BURGESS          48
    16 ESSB::JMORRISSEY         46
    17 NACCEE::MCCABE           44
   =18 EASE::SMYTH              42
   =18 KIRKTN:EGRANT            42
    20 MILE::JENKINS            30
   =21 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I         25
   =21 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP       25
    23 TFH::JROGERS             23
    24 WARFUT::DUNCAN           18
    25 TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C       17
   =26 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R        10
   =26 CMOTEC::JASPER           10
    28 UFHIS::GVIPOND            9
    29 WOTVAX::STONEG           -1
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.78brief observationOASS::HEARSE::Burden_dKeep Cool with CoolidgeWed May 18 1994 18:375
Looking at the top scorers (top 10 or so) it looks like the smart money is on 
the chassis and engine - forget about the driver.  Unfortunately I have my 
money riding on Schumacher......

Dave
2241.79HmmmBLKPUD::ROWEMFrank Gamballi's Trousers!Wed May 18 1994 21:263
    Hmmmmm,
    and Phil's got Senna...........
    
2241.80new format?OASS::HEARSE::Burden_dKeep Cool with CoolidgeThu May 19 1994 00:1534
How about listing the results with the team info - something like this?

===========================================
       Name                    Total
 
    1  COMICS::RHASKING   107	Fretzen, Blundell, Coulthard, Jordan, Zetec
    2  BLKPUD::ROWEM      99		Lamy, Ratzenberger, Brabham, Benetton, Ferrari
    3  COMICS::MCSKEANE   96	Barrichello, Martini, Panis, Ligier, Zetec
    4  YUPPY::PATEMAN     92	Berger, Alboreto, Katayama, Sauber, Hart
   =5  KERNEL::JUDD       91	Barrichello, Martini, Beretta, Ligier, Zetec
   =5  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J  91	Fretzen, Barrichello, Larini, Benetton, Yamaha
   =5  IRNBRU::MACKENZIE  91	Alesi, Gachot, Zanardi, Pacific, Zetec
    8  WOTVAX::GILLILANDM 90	Comas, Beretta, Gachot, McLaren, Zetec
    9  OASS::STDBKR       84	Schumacher, Gachot, Beretta, Ligier, Hart
    10 SUBURB::ALLYS      71	Blundell, Alboreto, Brabham, Benetton, Ford
    11 OTOOA::LAVIGNE     67	Blundell, Bernard, Zanardi, Ferrari, Ferrari
    12 NEWOA::FIDO_T      64	Wendlinger, Lehto, Katayama, Sauber, Yamaha
    13 BRADOR::ZUFELT     61	Wendlinger, Herbert, Brabham, Ferrari, Yamaha
    14 NWD002::MARTINMI   56	Lehto, Barrichello, Katayama, Ferrari, Hart
    15 RDGENG::BURGESS    48	Hakkinen, Herbert, Brabham, Jordan, Hart
    16 ESSB::JMORRISSEY   46	Barrichello, Comas, Gachot, Williams, Hart
    17 NACCEE::MCCABE     44	Barrichello, Brabham, Gachot, Jordan, Renault
   =18 EASE::SMYTH        42	Herbert, Barrichello, Gachot, Jordan, Mercedes
   =18 KIRKTN:EGRANT      42	Letho, Alboreto, Beretta, Lotus, Zetec
    20 MILE::JENKINS      30	Lehto, Wendlinger, Panis, Simtek, Mercedes
   =21 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I   25	Hakkinen, Bernard, Zanardi, Tyrrell, Ford
   =21 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP 25	Senna, Comas, Brabham, Tyrrell, Hart
    23 TFH::JROGERS       23	Brundle, Martini, Brabham, Tyrrell, Ford
    24 WARFUT::DUNCAN     18	Herbert, Blundell, Dalmas, Sauber, Ford
    25 TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C 17	Alboreto, Coulthard, Ratzenberger, Williams, Ford
   =26 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R  10	Brundle, Morbidelli, Gachot, Arrows, Ford
   =26 CMOTEC::JASPER     10	Blundell, Comas, Gachot, Ligier, Renault
    28 UFHIS::GVIPOND      9	Herbert, Comas, Gachot, Lotus, Renault
    29 WOTVAX::STONEG     -1	Senna, Alboreto, Ratzenberger, Tyrrell, Ilmor
2241.81DoneWOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyFri May 20 1994 15:375
    re .80. OK, I have moved a slightly modified version (so that it fits
    on an 80 column screen) of your idea onto the spreadsheet for
    incorporation into the next results. 
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.82Results of Round 5 (Barcelona)WARTOG::GILLILANDWed Jun 01 1994 15:3633
    No.Name               Score              Team Details
    
    1  CMOTEC::JASPER       33   Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
    2  COMICS::RHASKING     28   Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
    3  SUBURB::ALLYS        27   Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    4  OTOOA::LAVIGNE       26   Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
    5  COMICS::MCSKEANE     24   Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
   =6  TFH::JROGERS         22   Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
   =6  NACCEE::MCCABE       22   Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
   =8  IRNBRU::MACKENZIE    21   Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
   =8  ESSB::JMORRISSEY     21   Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
   =8  TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C   21   Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
    11 LARVAE::LINCOLN_J    20   Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
   =12 UFHIS::GVIPOND       19   Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
   =12 KERNEL::JUDD         19   Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
   =14 BLKPUD::ROWEM        18   Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
   =14 WARFUT::DUNCAN       18   Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    16 TURRIS::ZUFELT       14   Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
    17 OASS::STDBKR         13   Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    18 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I     10   Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
    19 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP    7   Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
   =20 NEWOA::FIDO_T         6   Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
   =20 WOTVAX::GILLILANDM    6   Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
   =20 NWD002::MARTINMI      6   Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
   =23 RDGENG::BURGESS       4   Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
   =23 KIRKTN:EGRANT         4   Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
   =23 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R     4   Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
    26 WOTVAX::STONEG        3   Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
    27 EASE::SMYTH           2   Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
    28 MILE::JENKINS         0   Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    29 YUPPY::PATEMAN       -3   Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    
    Phil Gill.                               
2241.83Positions after 5 RoundsWARTOG::GILLILANDWed Jun 01 1994 15:4232
    No.Name               Total                 Team Details
    1  COMICS::RHASKING    135 Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
    2  COMICS::MCSKEANE    120 Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
    3  BLKPUD::ROWEM       117 Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
    4  IRNBRU::MACKENZIE   112 Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
    5  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J   111 Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
    6  KERNEL::JUDD        110 Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
    7  SUBURB::ALLYS       98  Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    8  OASS::STDBKR        97  Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    9  WOTVAX::GILLILANDM  96  Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
    10 OTOOA::LAVIGNE      93  Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
    11 YUPPY::PATEMAN      89  Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    12 TURRIS::ZUFELT      75  Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
    13 NEWOA::FIDO_T       70  Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    14 ESSB::JMORRISSEY    67  Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    15 NACCEE::MCCABE      66  Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
    16 NWD002::MARTINMI    62  Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
    17 RDGENG::BURGESS     52  Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    18 KIRKTN:EGRANT       46  Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
    19 TFH::JROGERS        45  Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
    20 EASE::SMYTH         44  Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
    21 CMOTEC::JASPER      43  Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
    22 TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C  38  Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
    23 WARFUT::DUNCAN      36  Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    24 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I    35  Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
    25 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP  32  Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    26 MILE::JENKINS       30  Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    27 UFHIS::GVIPOND      28  Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
    28 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R   14  Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
    29 WOTVAX::STONEG       2  Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.84small question....WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Wed Jun 01 1994 15:435
    
    for those of us who had selected Senna and/or Ratzenburger, do we now
    get points based on their replacements ??
    
    Graham
2241.85MOEUR8::VIPONDWed Jun 01 1994 15:4410
    
    Phil,
    	Having not seen the results (apart from 1st & 2nd) for Spain (or
    any other race actually) is there any chance you could include them at
    the bottom of the list ? Now that we have a reason for knowing who 
    retired 1st etc its becoming more interesting to know but difficult to
    find out.
    
    Garry.
    
2241.86Happy to oblige (up to a point!)WOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyWed Jun 01 1994 17:2716
    >> for those of us who had selected Senna and/or Ratzenburger, do we now
    >> get points based on their replacements ??
    
    A question very close to my own heart Graham! Quoting from Andy Atkins
    original rules in .4:
    
    "If one of your choices drops out of the championship tough luck."
    
    Looks like the answer is no.
    
    Garry, to enter all the results would take ages. As it is I spend about
    2 hours doing the scores. How about me just entering the points-scoring
    places, i.e. 1-2-3-4-5-6-22-23-24-25-26 and DNQ's as in the next note?
    
    Phil Gill.
          
2241.87Official results of Spanish GPWOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyWed Jun 01 1994 17:3415
    1	Hill		Williams	Renault
    2	Schumacher      Benetton	Ford Zetec
    3	Blundell	Tyrell		Yamaha
    4	Alesi		Ferrari		Ferrari
    5	Martini		Minardi		Ford HB
    6	Irvine		Jordon		Hart
    
    22	Comas		Larousse	Ford HB
    23	Katayama	Tyrrell		Yamaha
    24	Alboreto	Minardi		Ford HB
    25	Belmondo	Pacific		Ilmor
    26	Beretta		Larousse	Ford
    
    Phil Gill.
    
2241.88MOEUR8::VIPONDWed Jun 01 1994 18:3411
    
    Thanks,
    Actually I didn't mean you should spend ages typing it in, I thought
    you had some form of spreadsheet in which you just entered the results
    from the race and the 'fantasy' bit was done for you. Still as I have
    yet to sort out a tv/video/reception combination that works any and
    all race info is very much appreaciated.
    
    Garry.
    German tv, english vid, french reception and no cash for a new tv.
    
2241.89SUBURB::FRENCHSSemper in excernereWed Jun 01 1994 19:267
    I don't think that Senna and Ratzenburger actually 'dropped out'. Give
    the boys the bennefit of the doubt and let the replacements count. They
    can't be better then the originals or they would have been the
    originals.
    
    
    Simon
2241.90NEWOA::FIDO_TConation is the keyWed Jun 01 1994 19:356
    No, it gets too confusing to allow substitutes ( I know 'cos we looked
    at doing that for our Fantasy Football ) and, before anyone says that 
    I'm not being fair, please note that my team includes Lehto and
    Wendlinger.
    
    Terry
2241.91errr, I suppose a refunds out of the question ??WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Wed Jun 01 1994 20:158
    
    ..well can I have my money back then ? I can think of quite a few toys
    I could buy for 25 million quid.....
    
    I might even be able to afford the insurance on one or two of them %^)
    
    
    Graham
2241.92contact Lloyds....OASS::HEARSE::Burden_dKeep Cool with CoolidgeWed Jun 01 1994 21:073
Didn't you get the check from Lloyds yet???  Frank got his......

Dave
2241.93BLKPUD::ROWEMFrank Gamballi's Trousers!Thu Jun 02 1994 14:4112
    
    I'm happy to NOT use a replacement....
    Some people like Phil put all their eggs in an expensive basket.
    but others bought drivers on a damage limitation basis.
    e.g Roland lost me points!
    Although it seems unfair on some, it'll be unfair on others
    if we use replacemants. Too much of a rat's nest to get into
    Phil's being very gallant, but we should stick with the original
    rules. The European court of human rights might rule that dropping
    out by death doesn't count but I can't afford the lawyer's fees!
    
    Matt. 
2241.94Results of Round 6 (Montreal)WARFUT::GILLILANDWed Jun 15 1994 15:5255
    No.Name                Score                  Team Details
    
    1  KIRKTN:EGRANT        35   Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
    2  IRNBRU::MACKENZIE    34   Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
    3  COMICS::RHASKING     32   Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
    4  BLKPUD::ROWEM        28   Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
    5  OASS::STDBKR         26   Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    6  TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C   26   Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
    7  NWD002::MARTINMI     24   Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
    8  SUBURB::ALLYS        22   Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    9  COMICS::MCSKEANE     20   Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
    10 KERNEL::JUDD         20   Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
    11 ESSB::JMORRISSEY     18   Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    12 NACCEE::MCCABE       16   Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
    13 UFHIS::GVIPOND       16   Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
    14 LARVAE::LINCOLN_J    16   Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
    15 OTOOA::LAVIGNE       16   Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
    16 WOTVAX::GILLILANDM   15   Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
    17 CMOTEC::JASPER       12   Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
    18 MILE::JENKINS        11   Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    19 YUPPY::PATEMAN       11   Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    20 RDGENG::BURGESS      10   Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    21 TURRIS::ZUFELT        8   Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
    22 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP    5   Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    23 EASE::SMYTH           4   Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
    24 NEWOA::FIDO_T         3   Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    25 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I      1   Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
    26 WOTVAX::STONEG       -1   Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
    27 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R    -3   Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
    28 TFH::JROGERS         -4   Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
    29 WARFUT::DUNCAN       -5   Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    
    Official Results
    ================
    
    1 Schumacher
    2 Hill
    3 Alesi
    4 Berger
    5 Coulthard
    6 Lehto
    7 Barichello
    8 Herbert
    9 Martini
    
    21 Katayama
    22 Irvine
    23 de Cesaris
    24 Frentzen
    25 Brundle
    
    Fittipaldi Disqualified
    Belmondo   Did not qualify
    
    Phil Gill.	
2241.95Positions after 6 RoundsWARFUT::GILLILANDWed Jun 15 1994 15:5533
    No.Name               Total                 Team Details
    
    1  COMICS::RHASKING    167 Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
    2  IRNBRU::MACKENZIE   146 Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
    3  BLKPUD::ROWEM       145 Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
    4  COMICS::MCSKEANE    140 Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
    5  KERNEL::JUDD        130 Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
    6  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J   127 Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
    7  OASS::STDBKR        123 Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    8  SUBURB::ALLYS       120 Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    9  WOTVAX::GILLILANDM  111 Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
    10 OTOOA::LAVIGNE      109 Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
    11 YUPPY::PATEMAN      100 Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    12 NWD002::MARTINMI    86  Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
    13 ESSB::JMORRISSEY    85  Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    14 TURRIS::ZUFELT      83  Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
    15 NACCEE::MCCABE      82  Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
    16 KIRKTN:EGRANT       81  Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
    17 NEWOA::FIDO_T       73  Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    18 TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C  64  Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
    19 RDGENG::BURGESS     62  Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    20 CMOTEC::JASPER      55  Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
    21 EASE::SMYTH         48  Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
    22 UFHIS::GVIPOND      44  Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
    23 TFH::JROGERS        41  Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
    24 MILE::JENKINS       41  Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    25 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP  37  Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    26 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I    36  Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
    27 WARFUT::DUNCAN      31  Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    28 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R   11  Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
    29 WOTVAX::STONEG       1  Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.96Results of Round 7 (Magny-Cours)WARFUT::GILLILANDThu Jul 07 1994 13:3153
    No.Name                Score                  Team Details
    
   =1  COMICS::MCSKEANE     32   Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
   =1  KERNEL::JUDD         32   Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
    3  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J    31   Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
    4  COMICS::RHASKING     30   Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
    5  BLKPUD::ROWEM        25   Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
    6  SUBURB::ALLYS        17   Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    7  YUPPY::PATEMAN       16   Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
   =8  TFH::JROGERS         15   Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
   =8  WOTVAX::GILLILANDM   15   Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
   =8  OASS::STDBKR         15   Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    11 KIRKTN:EGRANT        13   Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
    12 TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C   12   Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
    13 OTOOA::LAVIGNE       11   Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
   =14 IRNBRU::MACKENZIE    10   Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
   =14 WARFUT::DUNCAN       10   Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    16 NWD002::MARTINMI      8   Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
   =17 CMOTEC::JASPER        7   Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
   =17 TURRIS::ZUFELT        7   Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
   =17 ESSB::JMORRISSEY      7   Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    20 NEWOA::FIDO_T         6   Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    21 MILE::JENKINS         5   Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    22 UFHIS::GVIPOND        4   Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
    23 NACCEE::MCCABE        3   Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
   =24 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I     -1   Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
   =24 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R    -1   Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
   =24 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP   -1   Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    27 EASE::SMYTH          -2   Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
   =28 WOTVAX::STONEG       -4   Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
   =28 RDGENG::BURGESS      -4   Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    
    Official Results
    ================
    
    1 Schumacher
    2 Hill
    3 Berger
    4 Frentzen
    5 Martini
    6 de Cesaris
    7 Herbert
    
    22 Brabham
    23 Verstappen
    24 Irvine
    25 Alboreto
    26 Zanardi
    
    Gachot DNQ
    Belmondo DNQ
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.97Positions after 7 RoundsWARFUT::GILLILANDThu Jul 07 1994 13:3432
    No.Name               Total                 Team Details
    
    1  COMICS::RHASKING    197 Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
    2  COMICS::MCSKEANE    172 Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
    3  BLKPUD::ROWEM       170 Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
    4  KERNEL::JUDD        162 Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
    5  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J   158 Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
    6  IRNBRU::MACKENZIE   156 Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
    7  OASS::STDBKR        138 Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    8  SUBURB::ALLYS       137 Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    9  WOTVAX::GILLILANDM  126 Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
    10 OTOOA::LAVIGNE      120 Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
    11 YUPPY::PATEMAN      116 Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    12 KIRKTN:EGRANT       94  Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
    13 NWD002::MARTINMI    94  Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
    14 ESSB::JMORRISSEY    92  Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    15 TURRIS::ZUFELT      90  Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
    16 NACCEE::MCCABE      85  Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
    17 NEWOA::FIDO_T       79  Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    18 TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C  76  Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
    19 CMOTEC::JASPER      62  Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
    20 RDGENG::BURGESS     58  Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    21 TFH::JROGERS        56  Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
    22 UFHIS::GVIPOND      48  Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
    23 EASE::SMYTH         46  Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
    24 MILE::JENKINS       46  Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    25 WARFUT::DUNCAN      41  Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    26 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP  36  Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    27 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I    35  Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
    28 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R   10  Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
    29 WOTVAX::STONEG      -3  Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
    
2241.98Results Pending.BLKPUD::ROWEMFrank Gamballi's Trousers!Wed Jul 13 1994 19:246
    Dear All.
    
    Phill's away boating this week, but he says he'll post the results
    on his return next week.
    
    Matt.
2241.99Results of Round 8 - SilverstoneWARFUT::GILLILANDMon Jul 18 1994 13:1153
    No.Name                Score                  Team Details
    
   =1  ESSB::JMORRISSEY     31   Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
   =1  TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C   31   Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
   =3  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J    26   Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
   =3  NACCEE::MCCABE       26   Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
   =5  COMICS::MCSKEANE     24   Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
   =5  NWD002::MARTINMI     24   Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
   =5  KERNEL::JUDD         24   Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
    8  COMICS::RHASKING     22   Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
    9  BLKPUD::ROWEM        20   Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
    10 IRNBRU::MACKENZIE    18   Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
    11 RDGENG::BURGESS      16   Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
   =12 CMOTEC::JASPER       15   Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
   =12 OASS::STDBKR         15   Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    14 OTOOA::LAVIGNE       13   Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
   =15 UFHIS::GVIPOND       12   Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
   =15 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I     12   Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
   =15 SUBURB::ALLYS        12   Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    18 TURRIS::ZUFELT       10   Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
   =19 KIRKTN:EGRANT         9   Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
   =19 WOTVAX::GILLILANDM    9   Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
   =21 EASE::SMYTH           6   Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
   =21 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP    6   Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    23 YUPPY::PATEMAN        3   Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    24 WOTVAX::STONEG        2   Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
    25 NEWOA::FIDO_T         1   Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    26 MILE::JENKINS         0   Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    27 WARFUT::DUNCAN       -1   Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    28 TFH::JROGERS         -2   Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
    29 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R    -13  Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
    
    Official Results
    ================
    
    1 Hill
    2 Schumacher
    3 Alesi
    4 Hakkinen
    5 Barrichello
    6 Coulthard
    7 Katayama
    
    22 de Cesaris
    23 Morbidelli
    24 Zanardi
    25 Brundle
    26 Irvine
    
    Gachot DNQ
    Belmondo DNQ
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.100Positions After 8 RoundsWARFUT::GILLILANDMon Jul 18 1994 13:1433
    No.Name               Total                 Team Details
    
    1  COMICS::RHASKING    219 Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
    2  COMICS::MCSKEANE    196 Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
    3  BLKPUD::ROWEM       190 Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
    4  KERNEL::JUDD        186 Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
    5  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J   184 Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
    6  IRNBRU::MACKENZIE   174 Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
    7  OASS::STDBKR        153 Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    8  SUBURB::ALLYS       149 Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    9  WOTVAX::GILLILANDM  135 Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
    10 OTOOA::LAVIGNE      133 Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
    11 ESSB::JMORRISSEY    123 Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    12 YUPPY::PATEMAN      119 Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    13 NWD002::MARTINMI    118 Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
    14 NACCEE::MCCABE      111 Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
    15 TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C  107 Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
    16 KIRKTN:EGRANT       103 Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
    17 TURRIS::ZUFELT      100 Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
    18 NEWOA::FIDO_T       80  Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    19 CMOTEC::JASPER      77  Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
    20 RDGENG::BURGESS     74  Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    21 UFHIS::GVIPOND      60  Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
    22 TFH::JROGERS        54  Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
    23 EASE::SMYTH         52  Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
    24 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I    47  Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
    25 MILE::JENKINS       46  Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    26 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP  42  Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    27 WARFUT::DUNCAN      40  Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    28 WOTVAX::STONEG      -1  Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
    29 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R   -3  Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.101Results of Round 9 - HockenheimWARFUT::GILLILANDWed Aug 03 1994 15:3764
2241.102Positions after 9 RoundsWARFUT::GILLILANDWed Aug 03 1994 15:3934
    No.Name               Total                 Team Details
    
    1  COMICS::MCSKEANE    229 Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
    2  COMICS::RHASKING    220 Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
    3  BLKPUD::ROWEM       210 Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
    4  KERNEL::JUDD        203 Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
    5  OTOOA::LAVIGNE      184 Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
    6  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J   181 Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
    7  IRNBRU::MACKENZIE   177 Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
    8  OASS::STDBKR        165 Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    9  SUBURB::ALLYS       155 Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    10 WOTVAX::GILLILANDM  152 Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
    11 YUPPY::PATEMAN      139 Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    12 ESSB::JMORRISSEY    138 Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    13 NACCEE::MCCABE      123 Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
    14 TURRIS::ZUFELT      119 Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
    15 NWD002::MARTINMI    118 Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
    16 TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C  117 Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
    17 CMOTEC::JASPER      112 Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
    18 KIRKTN:EGRANT       107 Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
    19 UFHIS::GVIPOND      83  Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
    20 RDGENG::BURGESS     74  Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    21 NEWOA::FIDO_T       73  Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    22 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I    69  Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
    23 MILE::JENKINS       64  Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    24 TFH::JROGERS        61  Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
    25 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP  53  Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    26 EASE::SMYTH         52  Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
    27 WARFUT::DUNCAN      39  Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    28 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R   25  Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
    29 WOTVAX::STONEG      -3  Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
    
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.103What happened to Alesi ?TURRIS::BRADOR::ZUFELTV12 @13k music to my earsThu Aug 04 1994 18:1114
    I was wondering what happened to Hakkinen, I saw Alesi make 3/4's of a
    lap and Hakkinenn was out the first corner. I thought there were 10
    cars out the first lap/corner ?
    
    Just surprised to see Alesi down that far. 
    
    Watching out for my 30 Mil.
    
    Thanks for all your work, I find it very interesting hoping for my own
    team as well as for Hill.
    
    Thanks
    Fred
                                 
2241.104OASS::BURDEN_Dand a dozen grey attorneysThu Aug 04 1994 18:544
Will the Silverstone results to changed to reflect the banning of the Benetton
team?

Dave
2241.105WOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyThu Aug 04 1994 19:5116
    >> Just surprised to see Alesi down that far.
    
    There is nobody more surprised than me at some of the official results
    Fred. I just don't see how they can arrive at some of the decisions,
    particularly when it comes to deciding who dropped out first. Still,
    they are the official results and as good a reference point as any.
    
    >> Will the Silverstone results to changed to reflect the banning of the
    >> Benetton team?
    
    I hadn't intended to, but it's up to you competitors. If the yes's
    outweigh the no's then I will change them.
    
    Phil Gill.                              
    
    
2241.106Here's My "YES"NWD002::MARTINMIThu Aug 04 1994 19:561
    
2241.107MOEUR8::VIPONDThu Aug 04 1994 20:023
    
    I'll go for a "yes", I need all the points I can get.
                   
2241.108YES!WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Thu Aug 04 1994 20:195
    
    A 'YES' from me too - it could be what I need to get into positive
    figures.... %^)
    
    G
2241.109OASS::BURDEN_Dand a dozen grey attorneysThu Aug 04 1994 22:263
Even though I brought it up I vote "No".....

Dave
2241.110WOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyFri Aug 05 1994 15:1911
    Have Benetton definitely withdrawn their appeal yet? If they do, 
    presumably this will mean that Schumachers placing at Hockenheim will 
    not count, which will have an effect on our results in that the Zetec 
    engine scored 6 fantasy points on Sunday. This will drop to 4 points if
    Schumacher withdraws (Peugeot takes the 6 points, next eligible placing
    is Vertstappen's Zetec).
    
    I'll redo the Silverstone scores at 16:00 today, and the Hockenheim
    ones if someone can confirm what is happening.
    
    Phil Gill. 
2241.111Still secondYUPPY::PATEMANWaiting for the Great Leap ForwardFri Aug 05 1994 15:487
    I'm not sure we should change the scores. While Schummacher & Flavio
    lost their points, they didn't (I don't think) lose their position and
    no one was promoted (Alesi still got 4 points only).
    
    JMHO
    
    Paul
2241.112This makes Sundays much more funMOEUR8::VIPONDFri Aug 05 1994 16:3413
    
    Do those people who took either Benetton or Schumaker also get fined ?
    with the fine being shared by those of us who actually obey the rules
    ;-)
    
    As an aside  whilst the Hockenhiem race turned into something of
    procession at the end I disagree wih those who said it was boring,
    quite the opposite, It was very entertaining, Firstly were all my
    drivers able to qualify, then which ones got taken out after the first
    corner and in what order , would the Ferrari's last, would Ligier 
    and Comas breakdown etc etc. Theres more to F1 than just who's at the
    front. I'd be pleased just to see Gachot qualify !!!
    
2241.113OASS::BURDEN_Dand a dozen grey attorneysFri Aug 05 1994 18:579
My understanding is that Schumacher has been removed from the Silverstone
results and Alesi (and the others) *have* been moved up and awarded the
appropriate points for their new finishing positions.  How are the magazines who
sponsor a Fantasy F1 handling this?

The Hockenheim results should stand as they are, how can a team decide, after
the race, they didn't want to race, so please us out of the results?

Dave
2241.114IOSG::DUTTNigel DuttFri Aug 05 1994 19:384
    I'm sure that there was never any question of Hockenheim becoming
    retrospectively one of Schumacher's banned races. When the team
    appealed, what it meant was that they ran intervening races normally,
    then if the ban was confirmed it would apply to the next 2 races.
2241.116I did say "fantasy" didn't I?WOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyFri Aug 05 1994 20:4320
    >> Hockenheim ? Schumacher stopped with a dead engine. Scored 0 points.
    >> Verstappen did not restart from his 1st pit stop.
    
    Yes, yes Patrick. I know what he scored in the real world, but in our
    fantasy world the Zetec engine scored 6 points. If you're interested in
    how this happened, the scoring rules are back near the beginning of
    this topic.
    
    Well we have 3 "yes's", a "no" and a "don't think so" so revised scores
    will follow shortly. Basically, most drivers get an extra point (Alesi
    gets 2 extra), Katayama comes in at 11 points, the chassis's score an
    extra 2 points (Ferrari score 4 extra), Sauber get 2 points (giving 1
    in total coupled with their -1), same applies to the engines (except of
    course Mercedes get the full 2: no negative scores for engines). Oh, one
    final thing - Schumacher and Benetton are both awarded -5 points! The
    rules state that non-qualification costs -5 points. Disqualification
    falls into that category as far as I can see. This should even things
    up a bit :-).
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.117Revised Results of Round 8 - SilverstoneWARFUT::GILLILANDFri Aug 05 1994 21:5534
    No.Name                Score                  Team Details
    
    1  NWD002::MARTINMI     42   Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
    2  ESSB::JMORRISSEY     34   Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    3  TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C   32   Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
   =4  RDGENG::BURGESS      21   Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
   =4  OTOOA::LAVIGNE       21   Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
    6  YUPPY::PATEMAN       18   Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
   =7  TURRIS::ZUFELT       16   Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
   =7  NEWOA::FIDO_T        16   Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
   =9  TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I     15   Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
   =9  CMOTEC::JASPER       15   Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
   =11 COMICS::RHASKING     13   Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
   =11 KERNEL::JUDD         13   Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
   =11 COMICS::MCSKEANE     13   Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
   =14 LARVAE::LINCOLN_J    12   Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
   =14 NACCEE::MCCABE       12   Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
   =14 UFHIS::GVIPOND       12   Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
    17 EASE::SMYTH          11   Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
    18 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP   10   Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    19 IRNBRU::MACKENZIE     8   Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
    20 BLKPUD::ROWEM         7   Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
    21 WOTVAX::STONEG        4   Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
    22 MILE::JENKINS         2   Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    23 WARFUT::DUNCAN        1   Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    24 TFH::JROGERS          0   Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
    25 WOTVAX::GILLILANDM   -1   Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
    26 KIRKTN:EGRANT        -3   Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
    27 OASS::STDBKR         -4   Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    28 SUBURB::ALLYS        -5   Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    29 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R    -13  Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
    
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.118Revised Positions after 9 RoundsWARFUT::GILLILANDFri Aug 05 1994 21:5833
    No.Name               Total                 Team Details
    
    1  COMICS::MCSKEANE    218 Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
    2  COMICS::RHASKING    211 Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
    3  BLKPUD::ROWEM       197 Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
   =4  OTOOA::LAVIGNE      192 Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
   =4  KERNEL::JUDD        192 Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
   =6  IRNBRU::MACKENZIE   167 Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
   =6  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J   167 Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
    8  YUPPY::PATEMAN      154 Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    9  OASS::STDBKR        146 Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    10 WOTVAX::GILLILANDM  142 Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
    11 ESSB::JMORRISSEY    141 Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    12 SUBURB::ALLYS       138 Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    13 NWD002::MARTINMI    136 Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
    14 NACCEE::MCCABE      126 Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
    15 TURRIS::ZUFELT      125 Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
    16 TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C  118 Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
    17 CMOTEC::JASPER      112 Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
    18 KIRKTN:EGRANT       95  Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
    19 NEWOA::FIDO_T       88  Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    20 UFHIS::GVIPOND      83  Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
    21 RDGENG::BURGESS     79  Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    22 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I    72  Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
    23 MILE::JENKINS       66  Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    24 TFH::JROGERS        63  Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
   =25 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP  57  Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
   =25 EASE::SMYTH         57  Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
    27 WARFUT::DUNCAN      41  Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    28 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R   25  Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
    29 WOTVAX::STONEG      -1  Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.119LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Mon Aug 08 1994 14:076
2241.120Results of Round 10 - HungaroringWARFUT::GILLILANDThu Aug 18 1994 15:5555
    No.Name                Score                  Team Details
    
    1  SUBURB::ALLYS        36   Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    2  COMICS::MCSKEANE     31   Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
    3  CMOTEC::JASPER       28   Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
    4  WOTVAX::GILLILANDM   27   Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
    5  OASS::STDBKR         24   Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    6  COMICS::RHASKING     23   Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
   =7  BLKPUD::ROWEM        22   Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
   =7  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J    22   Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
   =9  TFH::JROGERS         20   Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
   =9  KIRKTN:EGRANT        20   Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
   =9  KERNEL::JUDD         20   Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
   =9  IRNBRU::MACKENZIE    20   Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
    13 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R    17   Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
   =14 TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C   16   Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
   =14 WARFUT::DUNCAN       16   Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    16 OTOOA::LAVIGNE       14   Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
    17 UFHIS::GVIPOND       12   Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
    18 MILE::JENKINS         9   Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    19 ESSB::JMORRISSEY      8   Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    20 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I      7   Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
    21 TURRIS::ZUFELT        6   Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
   =22 WOTVAX::STONEG        3   Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
   =22 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP    3   Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
   =22 NEWOA::FIDO_T         3   Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    25 NACCEE::MCCABE       -1   Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
    26 YUPPY::PATEMAN       -3   Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    27 NWD002::MARTINMI     -7   Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
    28 RDGENG::BURGESS      -9   Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    29 EASE::SMYTH          -13  Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
    
    Official Results  (with accompanying fantasy scores)
    ================
    
    1.	Scumacher  20	Benetton 20		Ford Zetec 20
    2.	Hill	   16	Williams 12		Renault    12
    3.	Verstappen 14	Benetton --    		Ford Zetec --
    4.	Brundle	   13	McLaren	  7 (8 - 1)	Peugeot     8
    5.	Blundell   12	Tyrell	  3 (6 - 3)	Yamaha      6
    6.	Panis	   11	Ligier	  4		Renault     -
    7.	Alboreto   --	Minardi	  2		Ford HB     4
    8.	Comas	   --	Larrouse --		Ford HB     -
    9.	Beretta	   --	Larrouse --		Ford HB     -
    10.	Bernard	   --	Ligier	 --		Renault     -
    11.	Brabham	   --	Simtek	 --		Ford HB     -
    12.	Berger	   --	Ferrari	 --       	Ferrari     2
    
    22. Alliot	   -1	McLaren	 -1 (see above)	Peugeot	    -
    23.	Gounon	   -2   Simtek   -2		Ford HB     -
    24. Katayama   -3	Tyrell   -3 (see above)	Yamaha      -
    25.	Barichello -4	Jordan	 -4) 		Hart        -
    26. Irvine	   -5	Jordan	 -5) -9		Hart        -
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.121Positions after 10 RoundsWARFUT::GILLILANDThu Aug 18 1994 15:5833
    No.Name               Total                 Team Details
    
    1  COMICS::MCSKEANE    249 Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
    2  COMICS::RHASKING    234 Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
    3  BLKPUD::ROWEM       219 Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
    4  KERNEL::JUDD        212 Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
    5  OTOOA::LAVIGNE      206 Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
    6  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J   189 Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
    7  IRNBRU::MACKENZIE   187 Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
    8  SUBURB::ALLYS       174 Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    9  OASS::STDBKR        170 Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    10 WOTVAX::GILLILANDM  169 Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
    11 YUPPY::PATEMAN      151 Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    12 ESSB::JMORRISSEY    149 Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    13 CMOTEC::JASPER      140 Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
    14 TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C  134 Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
    15 TURRIS::ZUFELT      131 Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
    16 NWD002::MARTINMI    129 Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
    17 NACCEE::MCCABE      125 Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
    18 KIRKTN:EGRANT       115 Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
    19 UFHIS::GVIPOND      95  Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
    20 NEWOA::FIDO_T       91  Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    21 TFH::JROGERS        83  Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
    22 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I    79  Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
    23 MILE::JENKINS       75  Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    24 RDGENG::BURGESS     70  Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    25 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP  60  Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    26 WARFUT::DUNCAN      57  Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    27 EASE::SMYTH         44  Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
    28 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R   42  Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
    29 WOTVAX::STONEG       2  Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
    
    Phil Gill. 
2241.122MOEUR8::VIPONDThu Aug 18 1994 19:378
    
    Not that it effects me, but why if for example the Jordan was out 1st
    and 2nd does it score twice, both -'s and if the Bennetton comes 1st and
    3rd it doesnt ? 
    
    Garry, who didn't read all the rules and his position in the
    championship proberbly reflects that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
2241.123WOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyThu Aug 18 1994 21:373
    It's a long story.
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.124nuff saidMOEUR8::VIPONDFri Aug 19 1994 14:191
    
2241.125WOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyFri Aug 19 1994 14:5512
    Actually Garry the original rules were very ambiguous about this and I
    encountered the problem the first time I did the scores. I contacted
    Andy Atkins (the originator of the rules) who said that the first five
    cars to drop out MUST score their minus points. As a guideline he
    suggested that if a team can possibly score any minus points then it
    must do so, though the same does not apply for positive points.
    
    Maybe this needs to be clarified further if we do another season of
    this next year.
    
    Phil Gill.
              
2241.126MOEUR8::VIPONDFri Aug 19 1994 15:593
    
    Hmm, ambiguous rules, this really is like the real thing ;-)
    
2241.127LARVAE::LINCOLN_JFri Aug 19 1994 16:5517
	I was a bit late catching on to this but it does seem 
	to be a good bit of fun and provides added interest to the
	races.

	So far the Bennetton/Zetec supporters have triumphed but there
	is still time for a turnaround with a string of Williams/Ferrari
	wins I suppose.

	Having looked at the table as it stands my only hope is for 
	Utymo Katayama to do extremely well. Although he shows commendable
	speed from time to time the little bugger keeps disappearing
	into the scenery with monotonous regularity so I don't hold
	out much hope.

	My moneys on Rhasking.

	-John
2241.128No longer a full gridWOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyFri Aug 19 1994 17:367
    >>	My moneys on Rhasking.
    
    .. who I believe has now left the company. Are there any others on the
    score sheet that are known to have left? And if they have should we
    keep them on it?
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.129WOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyFri Aug 26 1994 21:004
    I am on holiday next week, so Sunday's scores will be entered a week on
    Monday (5th Sep).
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.130Results of Round 11 - SpaWARFUT::GILLILANDMon Sep 05 1994 14:2857
    No.Name                Score                  Team Details
    
    1  TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C   37   Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
   =2  COMICS::RHASKING     30   Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
   =2  CMOTEC::JASPER       30   Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
    4  TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I     26   Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
    5  NACCEE::MCCABE       20   Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
   =6  SUBURB::ALLYS        19   Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
   =6  UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R    19   Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
   =8  WOTVAX::GILLILANDM   16   Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
   =8  UFHIS::GVIPOND       16   Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
   =8  RDGENG::BURGESS      16   Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
   =8  ESSB::JMORRISSEY     16   Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    12 WARFUT::DUNCAN       13   Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
   =13 KERNEL::JUDD         10   Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
   =13 COMICS::MCSKEANE     10   Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
   =13 TFH::JROGERS         10   Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
    16 KIRKTN:EGRANT         8   Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
   =17 LARVAE::LINCOLN_J     6   Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
   =17 WOTVAX::STONEG        6   Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
   =17 OTOOA::LAVIGNE        6   Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
   =20 BLKPUD::ROWEM         3   Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
   =20 IRNBRU::MACKENZIE     3   Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
   =20 NEWOA::FIDO_T         3   Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    23 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP    2   Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
   =24 EASE::SMYTH           0   Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
   =24 MILE::JENKINS         0   Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
   =24 TURRIS::ZUFELT        0   Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
    27 OASS::STDBKR         -3   Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    28 YUPPY::PATEMAN       -4   Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    29 NWD002::MARTINMI     -6   Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
    
    Official Results  (with accompanying fantasy scores)
    ================
    
    1.  Hill       20	Williams  20              Renault    20
    2.  Hakkinen   16	McLaren	  12		  Peugeot    12
    3.  Verstappen 14	Bennetton  3 (8-5) see	  Ford Zetec  8
    4.  Coulthard  13	Williams   -	   below  Renault     -
    5.  Blundell   12	Tyrrell    6		  Yamaha      6
    6.  Morbidelli 11	Footwork   4		  Ford HB     4
    7.  Panis	  --	Ligier	   2		  Renault     -
    8.  Martini	  --	Minardi	   -		  Ford HB     -
    9.  Alboreto  --    Minardi    -              Ford HB     -
    10. Bernard	  --	Ligier	   -		  Renault     -
    11. Gounon	  --	Simtek     -		  Ford HB     -
    12. Herbert	  --	Lotus	   -		  Mugen-Honda 2
    
    21. Berger	  -1	Ferrari	  (-1) -6 (see below)
    22. Alliot	  -2	Larrousse (-2) -6 (see below)
    23. Frentzen  -3    Sauber     -3
    24. Comas	  -4    Larrousse (-4) -6 (see above)
    25. Alesi	  -5    Ferrari   (-5) -6 (see above)
                                                  
    Disqualified: Schumacher -5  Bennetton (-5) 3 (see above)
     
    Phil Gill.
2241.131Positions after 11 RoundsWARFUT::GILLILANDMon Sep 05 1994 14:3134
    No.Name               Total                 Team Details
    
    1  COMICS::RHASKING    264 Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
    2  COMICS::MCSKEANE    259 Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
   =3  KERNEL::JUDD        222 Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
   =3  BLKPUD::ROWEM       222 Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
    5  OTOOA::LAVIGNE      212 Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
    6  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J   195 Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
    7  SUBURB::ALLYS       193 Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    8  IRNBRU::MACKENZIE   190 Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
    9  WOTVAX::GILLILANDM  185 Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
    10 TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C  171 Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
    11 CMOTEC::JASPER      170 Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
    12 OASS::STDBKR        167 Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    13 ESSB::JMORRISSEY    165 Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    14 YUPPY::PATEMAN      147 Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    15 NACCEE::MCCABE      145 Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
    16 TURRIS::ZUFELT      131 Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
   =17 NWD002::MARTINMI    123 Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
   =17 KIRKTN:EGRANT       123 Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
    19 UFHIS::GVIPOND      111 Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
    20 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I    105 Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
    21 NEWOA::FIDO_T       94  Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    22 TFH::JROGERS        93  Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
    23 RDGENG::BURGESS     86  Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    24 MILE::JENKINS       75  Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    25 WARFUT::DUNCAN      70  Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    26 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP  62  Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    27 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R   61  Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
    28 EASE::SMYTH         44  Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
    29 WOTVAX::STONEG       8  Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
    
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.132Results of Round 12 - MonzaWARFUT::GILLILANDWed Sep 14 1994 13:2653
    No.Name                Score                  Team Details
    
   =1  ESSB::JMORRISSEY     39   Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
   =1  NACCEE::MCCABE       39   Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
    3  TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C   35   Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
    4  NWD002::MARTINMI     30   Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
   =5  CMOTEC::JASPER       24   Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
   =5  RDGENG::BURGESS      24   Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    7  YUPPY::PATEMAN       22   Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
   =8  KERNEL::JUDD         19   Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
   =8  COMICS::RHASKING     19   Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
   =8  COMICS::MCSKEANE     19   Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
    11 OTOOA::LAVIGNE       18   Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
    12 EASE::SMYTH          17   Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
    13 TFH::JROGERS         16   Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
    14 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I     13   Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
    15 UFHIS::GVIPOND       11   Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
   =16 WOTVAX::GILLILANDM   10   Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
   =16 LARVAE::LINCOLN_J    10   Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
   =16 OASS::STDBKR         10   Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
   =19 TURRIS::ZUFELT        9   Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
   =19 BLKPUD::ROWEM         9   Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
    21 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R     8   Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
    22 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP    6   Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    23 WARFUT::DUNCAN        2   Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    24 SUBURB::ALLYS         1   Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
   =25 NEWOA::FIDO_T         0   Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
   =25 WOTVAX::STONEG        0   Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
   =25 MILE::JENKINS         0   Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    28 IRNBRU::MACKENZIE    -4   Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
    29 KIRKTN:EGRANT        -5   Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
    
    Official Results  (with accompanying fantasy scores)
    ================
    
    1.  Hill       20   Williams  20              Renault    20
    2.  Berger     16   Ferrari   11 (12-1)       Ferrari    12
    3.  Hakkinen   14   McLaren    8              Peugeot     8
    4.  Barrichell 13   Jordon     6              Hart        6
    5.  Brundle    11   McLaren    -              Peugeot     -
    6.  Coulthard  11   Williams   -              Renault     -
    7.  Bernard    --   Ligier     4              Renault     -
    8.  Comas      --   Larrousse  2              Ford HB      4
    9.  Lehto      --   Benetton   -              Ford Zetec   2
    
    22. Alesi      -1   Ferrari  (-1 + 12) 11 see above
    23. Herbert	   -2   Lotus    (-2 + -5) -7 see below
    24. Verstappen -3   Benetton  -3
    25. Morbidelli -4   Footwork  -4
    26. Zanardi	   -5   Lotus    (-5 + -2) -7 see above
    
    Phil Gill. 
                                           
2241.133Positions after 12 RoundsWARFUT::GILLILANDWed Sep 14 1994 13:3233
    No.Name               Total                 Team Details
    
    1  COMICS::RHASKING    283 Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
    2  COMICS::MCSKEANE    278 Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
    3  KERNEL::JUDD        241 Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
    4  BLKPUD::ROWEM       231 Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
    5  OTOOA::LAVIGNE      230 Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
    6  TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C  206 Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
    7  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J   205 Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
    8  ESSB::JMORRISSEY    204 Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    9  WOTVAX::GILLILANDM  195 Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
   =10 CMOTEC::JASPER      194 Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
   =10 SUBURB::ALLYS       194 Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    12 IRNBRU::MACKENZIE   186 Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
    13 NACCEE::MCCABE      184 Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
    14 OASS::STDBKR        177 Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    15 YUPPY::PATEMAN      169 Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    16 NWD002::MARTINMI    153 Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
    17 TURRIS::ZUFELT      140 Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
    18 UFHIS::GVIPOND      122 Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
   =19 KIRKTN:EGRANT       118 Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
   =19 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I    118 Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
    21 RDGENG::BURGESS     110 Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    22 TFH::JROGERS        109 Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
    23 NEWOA::FIDO_T       94  Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    24 MILE::JENKINS       75  Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    25 WARFUT::DUNCAN      72  Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    26 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R   69  Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
    27 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP  68  Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    28 EASE::SMYTH         61  Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
    29 WOTVAX::STONEG       8  Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.134Results of Round 13 - EstorilWARFUT::GILLILANDWed Sep 28 1994 13:0757
    No.Name                Score                  Team Details
    
   =1  NACCEE::MCCABE       40   Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
   =1  TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C   40   Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
    3  ESSB::JMORRISSEY     38   Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    4  RDGENG::BURGESS      29   Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    5  COMICS::RHASKING     28   Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
   =6  KERNEL::JUDD         21   Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
   =6  EASE::SMYTH          21   Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
   =8  UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R    19   Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
   =8  CMOTEC::JASPER       19   Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
   =10 LARVAE::LINCOLN_J    17   Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
   =10 UFHIS::GVIPOND       17   Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
    12 COMICS::MCSKEANE     16   Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
    13 WOTVAX::GILLILANDM   15   Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
    14 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I     14   Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
    15 NWD002::MARTINMI     12   Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
   =16 TFH::JROGERS         10   Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
   =16 OASS::STDBKR         10   Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    18 SUBURB::ALLYS         9   Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
   =19 IRNBRU::MACKENZIE     6   Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
   =19 KIRKTN:EGRANT         6   Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
    21 BLKPUD::ROWEM         5   Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
    22 WARFUT::DUNCAN        2   Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    23 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP    0   Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    24 YUPPY::PATEMAN       -3   Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    25 WOTVAX::STONEG       -4   Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
    26 OTOOA::LAVIGNE       -5   Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
   =27 TURRIS::ZUFELT       -6   Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
   =27 MILE::JENKINS        -6   Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
   =27 NEWOA::FIDO_T        -6   Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    
        Official Results  (with accompanying fantasy scores)
        ================
    
        1.  Hill       20   Williams  20              Renault    20
        2.  Coulthard  16   Williams  --              Renault    --
        3.  Hakkinen   14   McLaren   12              Peugeot    12
        4.  Barrichell 13   Jordon     8              Hart        8
        5.  Verstappen 12   Benetton   6              Ford Zetec  6
        6.  Brundle    11   McLaren   --              Peugeot    --
        7.  Irvine     --   Jordon    --              Hart       --
        8.  Fittipaldi --   Footwork   4              Ford HB      4
        9.  Morbidelli --   Footwork  --              Ford HB     --
       10.  Bernard    --   Ligier     2              Renault     --
       11.  Herbert    --   Lotus     --              Honda        2
    
       21.  Brabham    -1   Simtek    -1
       22.  Frentzen   -2   Sauber    -2                    
       23.  Comas      -3   Larrousse -3                     
       24.  Katayama   -4   Tyrrell   -4
       25.  Berger     -5   Ferrari   -5
    
       Panis disqualified -5
    
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.135Positions after 13 RoundsWARFUT::GILLILANDWed Sep 28 1994 13:1034
    No.Name               Total                 Team Details
    
    1  COMICS::RHASKING    311 Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
    2  COMICS::MCSKEANE    294 Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
    3  KERNEL::JUDD        262 Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
    4  TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C  246 Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
    5  ESSB::JMORRISSEY    242 Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    6  BLKPUD::ROWEM       236 Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
    7  OTOOA::LAVIGNE      225 Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
    8  NACCEE::MCCABE      224 Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
    9  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J   222 Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
    10 CMOTEC::JASPER      213 Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
    11 WOTVAX::GILLILANDM  210 Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
    12 SUBURB::ALLYS       203 Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    13 IRNBRU::MACKENZIE   192 Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
    14 OASS::STDBKR        187 Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    15 YUPPY::PATEMAN      166 Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    16 NWD002::MARTINMI    165 Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
   =17 UFHIS::GVIPOND      139 Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
   =17 RDGENG::BURGESS     139 Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    19 TURRIS::ZUFELT      134 Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
    20 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I    132 Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
    21 KIRKTN:EGRANT       124 Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
    22 TFH::JROGERS        119 Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
   =23 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R   88  Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
   =23 NEWOA::FIDO_T       88  Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    25 EASE::SMYTH         82  Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
    26 WARFUT::DUNCAN      74  Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    27 MILE::JENKINS       69  Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    28 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP  68  Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    29 WOTVAX::STONEG       4  Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
    
    Phil Gill.
    
2241.136REVENGE IS SWEET!!!UBOHUB::DIGGINS_RThu Sep 29 1994 23:255
    Phil
    
    Ill have less of your remarks about my team now if you please!!!!
    
    Russ
2241.137Hoping for a miracleWOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyFri Sep 30 1994 18:353
    Season's not over yet Diggins.
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.138Results of Round 14 - JerezWARFUT::GILLILANDNot very Tuna-friendlyFri Oct 21 1994 13:1150
    No.Name                Score                  Team Details
    
    1  COMICS::RHASKING     37   Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
    2  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J    28   Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
   =3  RDGENG::BURGESS      26   Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
   =3  OASS::STDBKR         26   Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
   =5  WOTVAX::GILLILANDM   21   Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
   =5  BLKPUD::ROWEM        21   Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
   =7  KIRKTN:EGRANT        20   Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
   =7  KERNEL::JUDD         20   Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
   =7  COMICS::MCSKEANE     20   Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
   =7  IRNBRU::MACKENZIE    20   Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
    11 YUPPY::PATEMAN       19   Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    12 NACCEE::MCCABE       18   Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
    13 SUBURB::ALLYS        17   Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    14 ESSB::JMORRISSEY     16   Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
   =15 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I     14   Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
   =15 CMOTEC::JASPER       14   Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
    17 TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C   12   Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
   =18 NWD002::MARTINMI     10   Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
   =18 UFHIS::GVIPOND       10   Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
   =20 OTOOA::LAVIGNE        8   Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
   =20 EASE::SMYTH           8   Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
   =22 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP    4   Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
   =22 TURRIS::ZUFELT        4   Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
    24 MILE::JENKINS         2   Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
   =25 NEWOA::FIDO_T         1   Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
   =25 WARFUT::DUNCAN        1   Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    27 WOTVAX::STONEG        0   Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
   =28 TFH::JROGERS         -5   Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
   =28 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R    -5   Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
    
    Official Results  (with accompanying fantasy scores)
    ================
    
    1.  Schumacher 20   Benetton (20)17 see below Ford Zetec 20
    2.  Hill       16   Williams  12              Renault    12
    3.  Hakkinen   14   McLaren   (8) 3 see below Peugeot     8
    4.  Irvine     13   Jordon     6              Hart        6
    5.  Berger     12   Ferrari    4              Ferrari     4
    6.  Frentzen   11   Sauber    (2) 1 see below Mercedes    2

    22. de Cesaris -1   Sauber   (-1)  1 see above
    23. Comas      -2   Larrousse(-2) -6 see below
    24. Verstappen -3   Benetton (-3) 17 see above
    25. Noda       -4   Larrousse(-4) -6 see above
    26. Brundle    -5   McLaren  (-5)  3 see above
    
    Phil Gill.
                                   
2241.139Positions After 14 RoundsWARFUT::GILLILANDNot very Tuna-friendlyFri Oct 21 1994 13:1333
    No.Name               Total                 Team Details
    
    1  COMICS::RHASKING    348 Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
    2  COMICS::MCSKEANE    314 Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
    3  KERNEL::JUDD        282 Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
   =4  TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C  258 Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
   =4  ESSB::JMORRISSEY    258 Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    6  BLKPUD::ROWEM       257 Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
    7  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J   250 Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
    8  NACCEE::MCCABE      242 Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
    9  OTOOA::LAVIGNE      233 Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
    10 WOTVAX::GILLILANDM  231 Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
    11 CMOTEC::JASPER      227 Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
    12 SUBURB::ALLYS       220 Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    13 OASS::STDBKR        213 Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    14 IRNBRU::MACKENZIE   212 Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
    15 YUPPY::PATEMAN      185 Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    16 NWD002::MARTINMI    175 Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
    17 RDGENG::BURGESS     165 Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    18 UFHIS::GVIPOND      149 Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
    19 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I    146 Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
    20 KIRKTN:EGRANT       144 Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
    21 TURRIS::ZUFELT      138 Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
    22 TFH::JROGERS        114 Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
    23 EASE::SMYTH         90  Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
    24 NEWOA::FIDO_T       89  Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    25 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R   83  Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
    26 WARFUT::DUNCAN      75  Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    27 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP  72  Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    28 MILE::JENKINS       71  Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    29 WOTVAX::STONEG       4  Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.140Results of Round 15 - SuzukaWARFUT::GILLILANDNot very Tuna-friendlyWed Nov 09 1994 18:2352
    No.Name                Score                  Team Details
    
    1  COMICS::RHASKING     29   Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
   =2  IRNBRU::MACKENZIE    26   Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
   =2  ESSB::JMORRISSEY     26   Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
   =2  NACCEE::MCCABE       26   Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
   =5  OASS::STDBKR         22   Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
   =5  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J    22   Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
   =7  TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C   20   Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
   =7  CMOTEC::JASPER       20   Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
   =9  BLKPUD::ROWEM        19   Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
   =9  UFHIS::GVIPOND       19   Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
    11 OTOOA::LAVIGNE       16   Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
    12 WOTVAX::GILLILANDM   14   Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
   =13 KERNEL::JUDD         12   Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
   =13 COMICS::MCSKEANE     12   Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
   =15 SUBURB::ALLYS        11   Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
   =15 RDGENG::BURGESS      11   Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    17 EASE::SMYTH           9   Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
   =18 KIRKTN:EGRANT         7   Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
   =18 NWD002::MARTINMI      7   Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
   =18 TURRIS::ZUFELT        7   Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
    21 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP    4   Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    22 YUPPY::PATEMAN        3   Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    23 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R     0   Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
   =24 TFH::JROGERS         -2   Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
   =24 WOTVAX::STONEG       -2   Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
   =24 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I     -2   Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
   =24 WARFUT::DUNCAN       -2   Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    28 MILE::JENKINS        -4   Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    29 NEWOA::FIDO_T        -8   Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    
    Official Results  (with accompanying fantasy scores)
    ================
    
    1.  Hill       20   Williams  20              Renault    20
    2.  Schumacher 16   Benetton (12)11 see below Ford Zetec 12
    3.  Alesi	   14	Ferrari    8              Ferrari     8
    4.	Mansell	   13	Williams   -		  Renault     -
    5.  Irvine     12   Jordon     6              Hart        6
    6.  Frentzen   11   Sauber    (4)-1 see below Mercedes    4
    7.  Hakkinen   --   McLaren    2              Peugeot     2
    
    22.	Herbert	   -1	Benetton (-1) 11 see above
    23. Katayama   -2	Tyrrell   -2
    24. Inoe       -3   Simtek    -3
    25. Noda       -4   Larrouse  -4
    26. Lehto      -5   Sauber   (-5) -1 see above
    
    Phil Gill.
    
    
2241.141Positions After 15 RoundsWARFUT::GILLILANDNot very Tuna-friendlyWed Nov 09 1994 18:2533
    No.Name               Total                 Team Details
    
    1  COMICS::RHASKING    377 Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
    2  COMICS::MCSKEANE    326 Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
    3  KERNEL::JUDD        294 Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
    4  ESSB::JMORRISSEY    284 Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    5  TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C  278 Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
    6  BLKPUD::ROWEM       276 Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
    7  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J   272 Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
    8  NACCEE::MCCABE      268 Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
    9  OTOOA::LAVIGNE      249 Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
    10 CMOTEC::JASPER      247 Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
    11 WOTVAX::GILLILANDM  245 Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
    12 IRNBRU::MACKENZIE   238 Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
    13 OASS::STDBKR        235 Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    14 SUBURB::ALLYS       231 Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    15 YUPPY::PATEMAN      188 Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    16 NWD002::MARTINMI    182 Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
    17 RDGENG::BURGESS     176 Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    18 UFHIS::GVIPOND      168 Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
    19 KIRKTN:EGRANT       151 Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
    20 TURRIS::ZUFELT      145 Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
    21 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I    144 Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
    22 TFH::JROGERS        112 Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
    23 EASE::SMYTH         99  Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
    24 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R   83  Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
    25 NEWOA::FIDO_T       81  Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    26 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP  76  Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    27 WARFUT::DUNCAN      73  Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    28 MILE::JENKINS       67  Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    29 WOTVAX::STONEG       2  Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.142TRACTION MANUBOHUB::DIGGINS_RSun Nov 13 1994 09:0811
    Dear All
    
    Just had to be the first to say?
    
    
    
    
    
    WHAT A CHEAT?????
    
    Russ
2241.143Results of Round 16 - AdelaideWARFUT::GILLILANDNot very Tuna-friendlyWed Nov 16 1994 14:5352
    No.Name                Score                  Team Details
    
    1  ESSB::JMORRISSEY     39   Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    2  NACCEE::MCCABE       35   Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
    3  NWD002::MARTINMI     30   Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
    4  COMICS::MCSKEANE     29   Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
   =5  CMOTEC::JASPER       24   Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
   =5  OTOOA::LAVIGNE       24   Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
    7  YUPPY::PATEMAN       23   Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    8  TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C   22   Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
    9  KERNEL::JUDD         17   Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
    10 MILE::JENKINS        16   Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
   =11 TFH::JROGERS         15   Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
   =11 UFHIS::GVIPOND       15   Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
    13 EASE::SMYTH          14   Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
    14 IRNBRU::MACKENZIE    11   Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
   =15 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R    10   Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
   =15 OASS::STDBKR         10   Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
   =17 LARVAE::LINCOLN_J     8   Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
   =17 WOTVAX::GILLILANDM    8   Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
   =19 BLKPUD::ROWEM         7   Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
   =19 TURRIS::ZUFELT        7   Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
    21 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP    5   Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    22 RDGENG::BURGESS       3   Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    23 COMICS::RHASKING      2   Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
   =24 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I      1   Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
   =24 NEWOA::FIDO_T         1   Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    26 KIRKTN:EGRANT         0   Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
   =27 WOTVAX::STONEG       -1   Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
   =27 WARFUT::DUNCAN       -1   Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    29 SUBURB::ALLYS        -3   Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    
    Official Results  (with accompanying fantasy scores)
    ================
    
    1.  Mansell       20   Williams  20              Renault    20
    2.  Berger	      16   Ferrari   12              Ferrari    12
    3.  Brundle       14   McLaren    8              Peugeot     8
    4.  Barrichello   13   Jordan    (6) 2 see below Hart        6
    5   Panis         12   Ligier     4              Renault     -
    6.  Alesi         11   Ferrari    -              Ferrari     -
    7.  Frentzen      --   Sauber     2              Mercedes    4
    8.  Fittipaldi    --   Footwork   -              Ford HB     2
    
    22. Katayama   -1      Tyrrell   -1
    23. Noda       -2      Larrouse  -2
    24. Morbidelli -3      Footwork  -3
    25. Irvine     -4      Jordan   (-4) 2 see above
    26. Herbert    -5      Benetton  -5
    
    Phil Gill.
              
2241.144** FINAL POSITIONS **WARFUT::GILLILANDNot very Tuna-friendlyWed Nov 16 1994 14:5533
    No.Name               Total                 Team Details
    
    1  COMICS::RHASKING    379 Frentzen Blundell Coulthard Jordan Zetec
    2  COMICS::MCSKEANE    355 Barrichello Martini Panis Ligier Zetec
    3  ESSB::JMORRISSEY    323 Barrichello Comas Gachot Williams Hart
    4  KERNEL::JUDD        311 Barrichello Martini Beretta Ligier Zetec
    5  NACCEE::MCCABE      303 Barrichello Brabham Gachot Jordan Renault
    6  TRUCKS::WILLIAMS_C  300 Alboreto Coulthard Ratzenberger Williams Ford
    7  BLKPUD::ROWEM       283 Lamy Ratzenberger Brabham Benetton Ferrari
    8  LARVAE::LINCOLN_J   280 Fretzen Barrichello Larini Benetton Yamaha
    9  OTOOA::LAVIGNE      273 Blundell Bernard Zanardi Ferrari Ferrari
    10 CMOTEC::JASPER      271 Blundell Comas Gachot Ligier Renault
    11 WOTVAX::GILLILANDM  253 Comas Beretta Gachot McLaren Zetec
    12 IRNBRU::MACKENZIE   249 Alesi Gachot Zanardi Pacific Zetec
    13 OASS::STDBKR        245 Schumacher Gachot Beretta Ligier Hart
    14 SUBURB::ALLYS       228 Blundell Alboreto Brabham Benetton Ford
    15 NWD002::MARTINMI    212 Lehto Barrichello Katayama Ferrari Hart
    16 YUPPY::PATEMAN      211 Berger Alboreto Katayama Sauber Hart
    17 UFHIS::GVIPOND      183 Herbert Comas Gachot Lotus Renault
    18 RDGENG::BURGESS     179 Hakkinen Herbert Brabham Jordan Hart
    19 TURRIS::ZUFELT      152 Wendlinger Herbert Brabham Ferrari Yamaha
    20 KIRKTN:EGRANT       151 Letho Alboreto Beretta Lotus Zetec
    21 TRUCKS::HAYCOX_I    145 Hakkinen Bernard Zanardi Tyrrell Ford
    22 TFH::JROGERS        127 Brundle Martini Brabham Tyrrell Ford
    23 EASE::SMYTH         113 Herbert Barrichello Gachot Jordan Mercedes
    24 UBOHUB::DIGGINS_R   93  Brundle Morbidelli Gachot Arrows Ford
    25 MILE::JENKINS       83  Lehto Wendlinger Panis Simtek Mercedes
    26 NEWOA::FIDO_T       82  Wendlinger Lehto Katayama Sauber Yamaha
    27 WOTVAX::GILLILANDP  81  Senna Comas Brabham Tyrrell Hart
    28 WARFUT::DUNCAN      72  Herbert Blundell Dalmas Sauber Ford
    29 WOTVAX::STONEG       1  Senna Alboreto Ratzenberger Tyrrell Ilmor
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.145And a round of applause for the winnerLARVAE::LINCOLN_JWed Nov 16 1994 16:165
	I think we should thank Phil Gill for running this interesting
	little challenge for the whole season despite his own 
	unfortunate showing.

	-John
2241.146COMICS::SHELLEYAlways with the -ve wavesWed Nov 16 1994 16:457
    Unfortunately Robbo (RHASKING) left for greener pastures a few months
    ago. Does this mean there should be an enquiry to strip him of the title
    :-)
    
    Royston
    
    PS. OK, OK I should have known what 'Pb' mean't...
2241.147tee heeCOMICS::MCSKEANEOh, to be a tab can!!!!!Wed Nov 16 1994 17:0712
    
    >Unfortunately Robbo (RHASKING) left for greener pastures a few months
    >ago. Does this mean there should be an enquiry to strip him of the
    >title
    
    In my best Damon Hill runner up voice....
    
    No, he deserved to win over the whole season. His strategy of getting a
    1m test driver into a Williams was nearly as good as the Benetton pit
    stop strategy!!!!!
    
    POL    :>>>>>>>>>  
2241.148MOEUR8::VIPONDWed Nov 16 1994 17:337
    
    Another thanks for Phil, actually added a bit of interest in the races
    apart from seeing who won.
    
    Err
    
    When can we start the next one ;-0
2241.149WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Wed Nov 16 1994 18:548
    
    My thanx too Phil, it's been very interesting to see how different
    combinations performed - even though my personal interest ended at
    Imola...
    
    roll on '95, are you volunteering to run it again ?
    
    Graham                                     
2241.150See you next yearWOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyWed Nov 16 1994 19:1711
    >> roll on '95, are you volunteering to run it again ?
    
    I wouldn't mind doing it again (assuming I'm still here next year). 
    Been quite good fun though it is quite hard work. I'll have to get a 
    proper spreadsheet set up for it and we need to clarify some rules 
    before we start next year. e.g. the `double-negative' scores, no entries 
    after the first race, etc. We also need to agree which `shopping list'
    to base our entries on. Watch the press for a suitable one around
    Feb/March and let us know.
    
    Phil Gill.
2241.151Many thanks from CanadaBRADOR::ZUFELTV12 @13k music to my earsWed Nov 16 1994 19:528
    Thanks Phil. This has been world wide entertainment.
    
    I'll have to make sure I study a bit more before picking next year.
    
    Sure glad it wasn't my 30 mil to blow.
    
    Thanks
    Fred
2241.152Thanks it was, now for next year.OTOOA::LAVIGNEThu Nov 17 1994 20:436
    It's was definately a lot of fun.  Looking forward to next year. 
    Thanks for letting a Canadian have some fun with this.
    
    regards,
    
    JP Lavigne
2241.153YeahNWD002::MARTINMIThu Nov 17 1994 22:085
    A definite big THANKS to Phil for running the show.  I'm looking
    forward to doing this again next year and will make sure I enter before
    the first race.
    
    Thanks again Phil.
2241.154ESSB::JMORRISSEYFri Nov 18 1994 14:193
    Thanks Phil. Roll on '95
    
    John
2241.155Fantasy National LotteryLARVAE::BULLOWSNBe proud of your bar codeFri Nov 18 1994 14:293
    Will you be running Fantasy National Lottery during the off season?
    
    Cheers Nick
2241.156BRUNDLE/MORBIDELLI/GACHOT TEAM L'ESCARGOTUBOHUB::DIGGINS_RWed Nov 23 1994 00:207
    I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank Phil
    
    But!!!!!
    
    I beat you Phil!!!!!
    
    Russ
2241.157WOTVAX::GILLILANDPNot very Tuna-friendlyThu Mar 09 1995 17:564
    If anybody would like to have a go at this in the new season, go to
    note 30 in VANGA::F1
    
    Phil Gill.