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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

1644.0. "* APPARENT LOW OIL PRESSURE: AUDI *" by IRNBRU::WILSON () Mon Jan 06 1992 16:55

    I have an 1988 Audi Coupe that is fitted with a low oil pressure light
    and audio warning circuit.
    
    On rare occasions the red light starts to glow slightly for about 10
    seconds before suddenly glowing bright red, and thus setting off the
    audio buzzer as well (most annoying). This activity happens randomly
    and can often fail to occur for weeks on end.
    
    The oil pressure has been checked by an Audi dealer and it is ok. On
    top of that the oil pressure gauge shows a very high reading when the
    buzzer/light goes off....so there is no loss in presure!! 
    
    If I lift my foot off the throttle slightly the problems goes away (for
    another week)
    
    The oil pressure switches have been changed, but still the problem
    remains. It is an electrical problem of some sort, but the dealer
    cannot establish the cause.
    
    Any ideas?....John
                               
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1644.1go mechanicalOASS::BURDEN_DHe's no fun, he fell right overMon Jan 06 1992 22:3915
The oil pressure switches on US VW GTIs (Mk I) had a habit of going bad.  I had
mine replaced when the car was about 3 months old.

An easy solution is to replace the eletrical oil pressure guage with a
mechanical one and disconnect the warning light.  Of course, depending on
the age of the vehicle, you may not to do this.  An it helps to have a full
time co-driver to keep an eye on the pressure guage - but since this is
my rally car, I have that one covered.

Another thing to look at is the locations of the sensors.  They usually
pick them up on the side of the head or down by the oil filter.  Can you
swap locations of the sensors?  Maybe there is plenty of pressure down
low, but not enough up at the head.

Dave
1644.2AEOEN2::MATTHEWSIn a negative brownie-point situation ...Tue Jan 07 1992 11:443
Don't suppose it could be a wiring fault ... the clutch pedal chaffing on
the wire from the sensor (you mention that depressing the clutch makes
it go away) ???
1644.3Mmmmmmmmmmmm - could be !NEWOA::CROME_ATue Jan 07 1992 14:4311
    I reckon .2 is on the right track, maybe a wire is earthing out behind
    the dashboard somewhere. Try following the throttle cable route and
    inspect the wiring loom at any points where the two might meet, also as
    the wiring goes through the bulkhead. The rubber seal may have worn on
    one edge allowing the loom to occasionally short out.
    
    If your car does have two sensors and one of them is on the head, I
    would keep a close eye on the camshaft, any oil starvation will need to
    be spotted early to prevent serious damage.
    
    Andy
1644.4VW oil pressure problem?HEWIE::CHRISMy plant, Eric, OD'd on Grendel and Baby BioThu Jan 09 1992 16:0915
    
    
    I've just got a similar problem on my VW Santana, the head gasket went
    just before Christmas and all the problems that brings.  The things
    been re-bored and all that, new oil pump fitted, and various other new
    things, and has been getting run-in for the past few days.  It's done
    about fifty miles so far and apparently no problems apart from the oil
    light coming on "when cornering & slowing down?".  I don't actually
    know what's happening, 'cos I haven't had access to the car, but that
    was the quote from someone who's been checking the car out for me...
    
    
    Any ideas please?!
    
    Chris.
1644.5PLAYER::BROWNLSo a notes title is compulsory then?Thu Jan 09 1992 16:3214
    Chris,
    
    That's usually a symptom of low oil level. The oil "washes" around in
    the sump, and the pickup can be left dry for a moment. Watch this,
    it'll kill your engine. If it didn't happen before, it shouldn't happen
    again.
    
    Racing and high-perfomance cars usually have baffles fitted to the sump
    to stop this, and oil surge.
    
    If this isn't the problem, then it's time to worry. It could be a
    blocked oilway or something.
    
    Laurie.
1644.6HEWIE::CHRISMy plant, Eric, OD'd on Grendel and Baby BioThu Jan 09 1992 16:4011
    
    
    I think the oil level is OK...one thing that comes to mind is that when
    I fetched the oil pump it wasn't exactly the same one as the one that
    came off.  There was a small bracket that wasn't on the other one,
    maybe that's getting in the way of a feed to/from the sump?  After
    driving about for a bit wouldn't the engine have seized up by now if
    that was the case?!  'Scuse me if I'm asking daft questions, but cars
    aren't exactly at the top of my knowledge list!
    
    Chris.
1644.7PLAYER::BROWNLSo a notes title is compulsory then?Thu Jan 09 1992 17:277
    No, it takes a long time for an engine to seize like that. It's not
    being starved of oil after all. The reason you should look into it, is
    that if there are new parts in there, they'll be tight, and will need
    lubrication more than later. Somewhere, the pressure is dropping. It
    could be the pump, but I still favour loss of pick-up.
    
    Laurie.
1644.8HEWIE::CHRISMy plant, Eric, OD'd on Grendel and Baby BioThu Jan 09 1992 17:396
    
    Yeah, I think a restricted pick-up is the problem.
    
    Ta for the help.
    
    Chris.
1644.9DCC::HAGARTYEssen, Trinken und Shaggen...Thu Jan 09 1992 18:297
1644.10OASS::BURDEN_DHe's no fun, he fell right overThu Jan 09 1992 20:024
That's why I like mechanical guages.  Even if the light messes up, you can
double check the real situation with a quick glance at the guage.

Dave
1644.11HEWIE::CHRISMy plant, Eric, OD'd on Grendel and Baby BioMon Jan 13 1992 15:177
    
    
    The Santana is kicking oil out like hell now, so the next stop for it
    is the motor auctions after I've traded it in for something else.
    
    
    Chris.
1644.12Don't buy an AUDIFILTON::WAVELL_NThu Jun 25 1992 18:3412
    In case any of you are still reading this note (highly unlikely), I've
    found out the cure of the dodgy lights on the dash board. Get the whole
    dam thing rewired for 100 quid and you won't have any more probs. My
    audi coupe gt5s has been Peeing me off with flashing brake lights, oil
    lights, indicators not working fog lamps fusing. But not any more. This
    dam car is playing a game with me but it's not going to win. Wot with,
    Sub-frames snapping, head gaskets blowing, piston rings flying around,
    exhaust systems being left on the M4.
    
     Good Luck
    
     nick