Conference mr1pst::music

>    I did a DIR/TITLE=COUNTRY and I did not find a note set aside for
>    Country-Music.  I also looked in EASYNOTES.LIS and I did not see a
>    conference for Country-Music.  Am I missing anything?  Do you know
>    of such a conference?

    No such conference -- although there are "country" (and "bluegrass")
    topics over in COOKIE::FOLK_MUSIC.  There also are topics for individual
    country/ bluegrass/ western/ cajun/ etc. musicians in various
    conferences, including this one, CD, RECORDS, FOLK_MUSIC, AFTER_HOURS,
    and the previous version of MUSIC (MUSIC_V3).
    
    If you want to make this MUSIC's new country topic, I'll certainly pitch
    in...

    Sample: "Modern" country music IMO dates from the 1927 recordings of
            Jimmie "Singing Brakeman" Rodgers and the Carter Family.  Unless
            you want to say it begins with Hank Williams Sr.  [Actually this
            is a position statement, not musicologically correct.]

    Sample: Anyone heard from Lyle Lovett lately?  (Aside from a
            dispensible-looking EP of remixes & remakes.)

    Sample:  So, is Garth Brooks any good, or what?
    
    Sample:  Heard Michelle Shocked for the first time last night, on Austin
            City Limits; another good one from the bumper crop of Texas
            singer/songwriters.  Is "Short Sharp & Shocked" the best album?

    Sample:  How about that great country reissue series from Rhino -- "More
            of the Best of Merle Haggard", "Best of George Jones", "Bob
            Wills Anthology" (not to be confused with the CBS one), Willie
            Nelson "Nite Life and other Early/Rare Tracks", "Best of Merle
            Travis".

    Sample: Bill Monroe's 1940-1 recordings with the Bluegrass Boys, which
            started the modern incarnation of this music, with the label
            "bluegrass", are available on a budget Bluebird/RCA/BMG CD,
            "Muleskinner Blues".  Remastered and everything.  Not sure if I
            like them as much as the slightly later Columbia Bill Monroe
            stuff with Flatt & Scruggs, but give it time.
            
    Sample:  The Smithsonian re-released its boxed set of "Classic County
            Music" on CD and tape.  It's been slimmed down to 100 cuts (from
            144, which was overwhelming), and updated to mid 80s.  It's
            programmed and annotated by Bill Malone [author of the classic
            "Country Music USA" book].  I understand it's available in
            stores as single CDs as well, although I haven't spotted any
            yet.              - Jay

    
    I wonder if my system people would let me start a conference on
    Country Music Old/New. I will give them a call and check.  I really
    think we need our own file.  As .1 has shown there is alot of discuss
    in the land of Country.  
    
    I am into the newer artist (Travis Tritt, Randy Travis, Clint Black
    etc)  I am located in Hudson, Mass and I can not even get a good
    Country channle on my radio out here (98.1, 100.1) but they don't come
    in unless it's a clear day and Im on a hill. 
    
    So I would really love to read all about Country Music and there artist
    
    Louisa

    
     I for one would love to see a country notesfile. I lived
    most of my life in New Hampshire, but recently moved to
    Knoxville Tenn. for a job with DEC. The only place I really
    heard country in N.H. was at my fathers house, but down here
    there are more country stations than rock.
    
     I really enjoy Dwight Yoakem, among others.
    
     Paul W.
    

    re:  .2
    
    Try 97.5, too.  That's in New Hampshire; I think it's a 50,000 watts
    station.
    
    **Debs

    re: -.2, I'm not sure of the freq, but is one of those WORC
    (worcester country)?

    There is also WOKQ (don't know the number...we have trouble getting it
    in).
    
    K.C.

    WORC is no longer a country station, it is now an oldies station. (for
    at least two years). I don't listen to it either way, but my wife worked
    there most of last year and I know the new owners pretty well.
    
    Brian

    
    WOKQ is FM97.5 and boasts 50K watts in it's breaks... I listen to it
    faithfully.  Probably because it's the only decent country station
    in my area (Manchester, NH).  WOKQ must get out there though 'cause
    they have an on air flea market on Sunday morning and many of the
    callers are from Portsmouth and southern Maine.
    
    They play a good mix of country oldies and contemporary country
    artists...  I'm new to the country scene and my taste leans toward
    more recent material.  You'll hear alot of;
    
    Patty Loveless, Randy Travis, Garth Brooks, Kathy Mattea, Reba M,
    Baillie and The Boys, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Alabama... etc, etc.
    
    Tim
    

    re: .0
    
    To see the topic on k.d. lang, go to note 676 in the COOKIE::FOLK_
    MUSIC conference.  k.d.'s fans are currently awaiting her new album,
    tentatively scheduled for March of '92.
    
    Like many performers, k.d. doesn't categorize too easily.
    
    Virginia
    

   
    >>Like many performers, k.d. doesn't categorize too easily.

k.d.lang category = country singer

See, that wasn't tough.

She dresses country, has a country band, sings country (very damn well) and
a few quibbles about her dietary habits or romantic proclivities, plus a
cover of a Peggy Lee song, don't change a thing.  Yeah, right, "performance
artist", but every image she evokes is a country image:

	"Angel with a lariat"
	fiddles
	Owen Bradley production
	Patsy Cline obsession
	"Next dance will be a circle square!"
	"Wallflower waltz"
	"Big boned gal from southern Alberta"

    RE: kd

    There's that "torch" side to her as well (the area where she tends to
    oversing  8)   .  I thought that album title said it well, absolute
    "torch & twang".

    Speaking as a fan, I hope she focuses more & more on her songwriting, to
    help keep that stupendous natural vocal talent under control...   - Jay

    
    KD falls into the "I don't get it" category for me.  A friend of
    mine (Hi Marty) is swooned by her voice, but I'm not interested or
    impressed.
    
    As for her lyrics,  well,  I don't want anyone to start flaming,
    and I could care less what she eats.  I will give her credit because
    she does write (so many popular artists of _all_ styles just deliver
    someone elses message).
    
    I wasn't surprized to see Billy Joel's credits on Garth Brooks tune,
    Shameless.  
    
    Tim
    
    
    
    

    re: .11
    
    After reading this reply, I went back and looked at the "Digital
    Audio & Compact Disc Review" opinions.  From the "Angel With A
    Lariat" write-up: " [k.d.] doesn't fit neatly into the country
    category...[although] she relies on a core of standard country
    elements, her music has an electrified, energetic pop edge, which
    is helped along by her band's crisp, jazz fusion-like techniques."
    
    From the "Shadowland" review: "Shadowland is far from strictly
    country.  Much of the music here shares subtle elements of jazz,
    and in three songs - "Black Coffee," "Busy Being Blue," and the
    disc's title track - lang dips into a dramatic jazz/blues style."
    
    When k.d. was interviewed on TV by Connie Chung, she said that the
    reason her music didn't get much radio play was because she didn't
    "slot easily" - that she was too country for rock and often too far
    left for country.  
    
    Here in Worcester, MA, k.d. has been played on WICN's all-jazz program.
    
    Virginia
                        

    Is Rodney Crowell's album "Ain't Living Long Like This" available on CD
    in the States.
    
    Andy
    (UK)

Howling Wolf said that if Elvis wasn't a blues singer, he "gets his push
from the blues".  k.d. lang gets her push from country music.

>     Is Rodney Crowell's album "Ain't Living Long Like This" available on CD
>     in the States.

    I don't see it in the Winter '91/2 Schwann catalog, but don't know
    enough about Crowell to know what that means.  (I.e., if it's a recent
    recording or reissue maybe Schwann hasn't caught up to it.)   JBC

    
   RE:                   <<< Note 105.15 by MTWASH::FRENCH >>>
    
    
    Sorry Vern,
    
    Never heard the ad...  probably because I try to ignore advertizing.
    
    Where are you (High Range Road) playing?  I've got a bunch of friends
    who are into C&W (myself included) and there aren't that many places
    the offer live C&W.
    
    Regards,
    
    Tim
     

    Thanks for the check on Rodney Crowell.
    
    It is not a new album... in fact I think it's his first.
    
    It's certainly more than five years old.
    
    An oldie but goodie :-)
    
    andy  

>    Sample:  So, is Garth Brooks any good, or what?
    
    I caught the "Garth Brooks Special".  I liked a couple of ballads, but
    didn't go for the smarmy entertaining, the arena-rock & MTV touches, and
    the mock humbleness.  Obviously he has all the tools, and has listened
    to good people in & out of C&W -- maybe someday when he stops
    pandering...  Your mileage may vary.     - Jay

    I liked Garth Brooks alot better before I saw the Garth Brooks Special.
    I think he was out to prove that he can appeal to the rock and roll
    crowd.  He didn't impress me in the special. I hope he doesn't become
    so full of himself that he loses his sensitive side.  
    
    Kathy

    So, how is his MUSIC?
    
    K.C.

    IMHO, the music is fairly typical, proficient, uninspired.  Seems to
    me there are a lot of country artists that I'm casually familiar
    with (which is as close as I get anyway) that have more interesting
    material and/or a more appealing voice.  Not to knock Garth; he's
    okay, but after seeing the special I kind of wondered what the fuss
    is all about.  This was also the consensus from my random sampling
    of friends and acquaintences who tuned in last Friday.
    
    Actually, I have a guess what the fuss is all about though.  Last
    week's Boston Phoenix had an article on new "Blockbuster" album
    releases; Michael, Madonna, U2, etc. and they mention Garth and
    his crossover potential.  Garth?  Blockbuster?  Somebody smells big
    money and the media machine is in high gear.  If you saw the special,
    it fairly reeked of hype.  My impression is they missed the mark and
    turned more people off than on.

    KC:
    
    I really like his music.  His song "the dance" brings tears to my 
    eyes every time I hear it.  I really like the song "much too young
    to feel this damn old," which is the song that mentions Chris Ledoux.
    His songs were simple and heartfelt. I thought his words were genuine.
    But, when I heard "The thunder rolls" and "shameless,"  I sensed he
    was changing his style.  I haven't bought his latest CD...I'm not
    sure I'd like it.  I did like "no fences" and his "garth brooks"
    CDs.  
    
    Kath

    Shameless is a Billy Joel tune and Garth is quite the fan.  I don't
    think he's changing his style as much as he's just trying not sound the
    same on everything.  I didn't see the special, but heard he did another
    Joel tune.  Everyone I know that saw the show loved it.  Personally, I
    don't know all of his music, but what I do know I like a lot.  I'm not
    much of a country fan.  Also, it's songs like The Dance and Thunder
    Rolls that give me the impression that his music is NOT un-inspired.
    
               
                                                   Capt. Scott  

    Anyone got any recommendations for Ricky Skaggs?  I heard a tune
    I liked off his latest, "My Father's Son", and want to pick something
    up.  What I liked: catchy tune, nice voice, great guitar pick'in,
    so I guess I'm looking for more of that.  Is the new one pretty good?
    Is there a definitive album that every neophyte should own?  Any
    help greatly appreciated.
    
    /rick

    Two really good Ricky Skaggs songs:  "Honey, won't you open that door"
    and "Uncle Penn" (a Bill Monroe re-make).  I couldn't tell you what
    albums they're on - but they are pretty definitive of his style(s).  I
    defy you to listen to "Uncle Penn" without tapping your feet or dancing
    around.
    
    **Deb

    
    How'bout "Country Boy", the title track on this album is awesome.
    The album is pretty good overall.  Some other tunes on it that I
    find particulary good are "Two Highways" and "Wheel Hoss", the latter
    being totally instrumental.
    
    He has another tune called "Hummingbird" that has some great guitar
    work in it.  I'm not sure which album it's on... I have it on a C&W 
    compilation disc.
    
    Enjoy~
    
    Tim
    
    

    I trust you fans of Lyle Lovett out there have been seeing articles
    about his new album?  He's written & recorded over 20 songs, working
    title is about Guilt or Dread or something.
    
    If not, I'm digging out the articles for a friend - I could enter a
    paragraph-length summary from home.  I'm assuming others look forward to
    his new releases the way I do.
    
    BTW, I located the 4 single CDs that make up the Smithsonian "Classic
    Country Music Collection" in Tower Records; among '80s cuts, I was a
    little surprised to see 2 cuts of Alabama but only 1 cut from the "Texas
    school" of songwriters (Dwight Yoakam, good choice).  Maybe the country
    faithful, in the person of programmer Bill Malone, isn't as accepting of
    the new Texas brood as I hoped/assumed; though admittedly most of the
    new crowd hasn't been around that long.   - Jay

    Re. Ricky Skaggs

    I saw him play for the first time with EmmyLou Harris' Hot Band
    in 1975. He blew me away with his flat-picking, fiddle, and
    mandolin. Check out Live in London, there's a great tune on it
    called Cajun Moon. Steel player Bruce Bouton shines on this one.

    Neal

    thanks for the Ricky Skaggs recommendations; I'll check em out.
    
    /rick

    Have to laugh at the closing sentence of the Rolling Stone article about
    Lyle Lovett's new "gospel death" album:
    
        Lovett describes the last song ["She's Leaving Me Because She Really
        Wants To (And She'll Be Happy When She's Gone")] as "the only real
        country song on the album."  Still, he's reluctant to describe the
        new album as a major departure.  "It's just more songs by me," says
        Lovett before adding, "I'm sorry."

    Folksinger-laureate of New Hampshire Bill Morrissey is reputed to have
    announced his latest CD by saying "Here's 12 more songs."
    
    Lyle Lovett's liner notes in the Deadicated album were also great.
    While all of the punkers went on and on about the Dead and their role
    in shaping the cosmos, all Lyle says is "I like the Dead and 'Friend of
    the Devil' is a neat song" or words to that effect.
    
    The dude has class.
    \Gary

    Hi all,
    
    Is it true that a C&W singer named Garth Brooks is a megastar,noting
    is Billboard position in record sales.Is he good?
    
    Jan.

>    Is it true that a C&W singer named Garth Brooks is a megastar,noting
>    is Billboard position in record sales.Is he good?
    
   Hi Jan,  Look back at replies starting around .21 or so.

   Yeah, based on sales figures, for a couple of albums now, he's selling up
   there with the metal and rap guys.  He's good at something, whether that
   something is country songwriting and singing I haven't heard enough to
   say.

   A local once-alternative paper, the Boston Phoenix, had an entertaining
   (semi-comic) piece a week ago comparing/contrasting current C&W big
   sellers Garth Brooks and Randy Travis.  Had both good & bad things to say
   about each.   - Jay
   
     [P.S. There were a couple of other good pieces on country music in the
     same issue; one reviewed the new Patsy Cline box, taking the
     opportunity to praise her all up & down the street, saying noone since
     has surpassed her etc. etc.  I may have a listen, since my current
     Patsy Cline sample apparently didn't represent her that well.  One of
     the articles enumerated some of the virtues of the "country" mode of
     musical expression, when fueled by good songwriting -- kind of
     articulated for me why someone like Hank Sr. has such appeal for me...]

In addition to being a heartbreaking singer of heartbreaking songs, Patsy Cline
was also a founding mother of the whole wretched countrypolitan thing.  Too
bad the other countrypolitans weren't as great as Patsy.

Caught a blazing guitar solo from him once, but I don't know anything else
about him.  Anybody?

    My favorite thing about Patsy Cline is how healthy and together her
    voice sounds on those boo-hooing in the bughouse songs.  You figure any
    heartbreak which could get to someone that tuff was some heap big
    heartbreak.
    
    Ray

    RE:  Patsy Cline.  Ah, another mention of "Live at the Opry" -- got one
    offline too.  I gather that disc covers a range of years, like '56 to
    '62.  Maybe that's a fiscally responsible baby-step toward buying the
    box.   ("Buying the box" -- an aphorism for our age.)

    RE:  Vince Gill.  Don't know him, and my Down Home Music guide to C&W's
    on loan so I can't fake it this time, but -- 

    He was on last Monday's Austin City Limits (Boston area), followed by
    Alison Kraus & Union Station (fine show!).  I'd hesitate to describe him
    based just on that.  ....  Another talented (Texan?) singer/songwriter
    who's influenced by a broad range of down home & urban styles?

    FWIW, I heard somewhere that a good Vince Gill album to get is "When I
    Call Your Name" on MCA.    - Jay

    Vince Gill used to be a background singer for the other biggies.
    He broke out on his own, with great success.  "When I Call Your
    Name" (with Patti Loveless singing in the background) is a great
    song. He has a wonderful strong clear voice.  
    
    Kathy

    Yup, and quite a player.  I caught him on American Music Shop (TNN)
    along with Ricky Skaggs and Albert Lee.  Have mercy !  It was
    definitely a great show.  I had my VCR rolling, but alas, I had it on
    the wrong channel.  8^)
    
    Jerry

    FWIW, the "Austin City Limits" with Vince Gill ( + bluegrass ace Alison
    Kraus w/ Union Station) is airing again tonight, N.H. Ch.11 at midnight.

    It seems N.H. Ch.11 airs each show twice, Monday shortly after 10 PM and
    Saturday at midnight.  For example, next week's pairing of Albert
    Collins and Danny Gatton will air 17-Feb 10+ PM and 22-Feb midnight, if
    I've got the pattern right that is.

    Just to confuse things, Boston Ch.44 also airs "Austin City Limits"
    Saturday at midnight -- no doubt a different lineup entirely.   - Jay

    Re Vince Gill: Born and raised in Oklahoma.  His father and mother were
    both players.  His folks gave him a Gibson 335 dot inlay and a Fender
    Super Reverb for his 10th birthday; he still has 'em both.  Played with
    Pure Prarie League.  Married to another country star, one half of
    Sweethearts of the Rodeo.
    
    As someone else mentioned, he 'broke' with 'When I Call Your Name'. 
    Sings with a beautiful country tenor and plays a mean guitar. 
    Laughingly stated that he put out 'Liza Jane', a hot country guitar 
    raveup because "...people were getting tired of hearing Vince Gill coma
    tunes."
    
    Besides his own albums (three, I believe) he shares the spotlight with
    two other pickers, Steve Wariner and Ricky Skaggs, on the cut
    'Reckless' off the New Nashville Cats self-titled album.

    
    I wish they'd put some decent Pure Prarie League CDs out.  I've only
    seen one (bought and sold it in less than a week 'cause the recording
    quality was really poor). 
    
    Anyone else with me?
    
    Tim
    

    re .45: That's 'Restless'...musta been my accent.  And Vince has five
    albums out.  He also played with the Cherry Bombs (Rodney Crowell's
    band) and Roasanne Cash's band.  There's are two page writeup on him in
    the latest _Guitar Player_.

    I decided to read up a little on country music, and am looking at (or
    looking for) the following books.  Can anyone suggest any other good
    ones?
    
      Bill Malone, Country Music USA ('85 ed.)  [+ Smithsonian box notes]
      Douglas B. Green, Country Roots
      Martha Hume, You're So Cold I'm Turnin' Blue
      Down Home Music, Guide to Recorded Country & Western
      Dean & Mary Tudor, ? (guide to country records)
      John Morthland, ? (guide to "best" country records)
      Neil Rosenberg, Bluegrass: A History
      Bob Artis, Bluegrass
      Peter Guralnick, Lost Highway
      CD Review list of basic records (comic relief  8)

    - Jay

    Keeping in mind that I'm a relative beginner w.r.t. country music...
    I'd like to run the following up the flagpole.

    With the goal of someday maybe making a country music tree-of-life type
    of poster for my home or office, the following is a first cut at an
    outline of the history and styles of commercial country music.
    Obviously I'm bounded by what I've heard (expect omissions, mistakes).

====================================================================
  --> Country folk (vs. "urban folk" of Woody Guthrie, Pete Seeger, etc.)
      . Carter Family
      . Also: Bradley Kincaid

  --> Country blues
      . Jimmie Rodgers

  --> Country string bands (proto-bluegrass)
      . Blue Sky Boys
      . Monroe Brothers

  --> Singing cowboys
      . Gene Autry
      . Sons of the Pioneers (w/ Roy Rogers)
      . Tex Ritter

  --> Western swing
      . Bob Wills
      . Milton Brown
      . Spade Cooley
      . Also: Johnny Lee Wills

  --> Country gospel & ballads
      . Roy Acuff
      . Wilma Lee & Stoney Cooper
      . Molly O'Day
      . Also: Bill Monroe

  --> Bluegrass
      . Bill Monroe
      . Stanley Brothers
      . Flatt & Scruggs

  --> Master pickers
      . Merle Travis
      . Chet Atkins
      . Doc & Merle Watson
      . Also: Hank Snow

  --> Cajun country
      . Doug & Rusty Kershaw
      . Moon Mullican
      . Also: Jimmy C. Newman

  --> Nashville/ countrypolitan sound (producers Chet Atkins, Billy Sherrill)
      . Jim Reeves
      . Marty Robbins (earlier work)
      . Also: Webb Pierce, Floyd Cramer   *** Who else? Eddy Arnold? Don Gibson?

  --> Honky tonk/ Hard country, including the Bakersfield sound
      . Ernest Tubb
      . Hank Snow
      . Hank Williams
      . Lefty Frizzell
      . George Jones
      . Buck Owens
      . Merle Haggard
      . Wynn Stewart
      . Hank Thompson (honky tonk & western swing)
      . Gary Stewart
      . Moe Bandy
      . Barrelhouse/boogie-woogie piano: Moon Mullican, Jerry Lee Lewis

  --> Female country stars      [can't seem to avoid a "women" category]
      . Kitty Wells
      . Patsy Cline
      . Loretta Lynn
      . Tammy Wynette
      . Dolly Parton
      . Emmylou Harris
  
  --> Rockabilly
      . Elvis Presley
      . Jerry Lee Lewis
      . Johnny Cash
      . Buddy Holly (earlier work)
      . Also: Carl Perkins, Charlie Rich, Jack Clement, Burnette Trio,
          Everly Brothers, Sleepy Labeef, Eddie Cochran, Collins Kids

  --> Country rock
      . Gram Parsons (w/ International Submarine Band, Byrds, Flying Burrito
          Brothers, Emmylou Harris)
      . Southern rock: Allman Brothers, Marshall Tucker Band, Charlie
          Daniels, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Black Oak Arkansas, Alabama

  --> Progressive country/ outlaw country/ Texas sound:
      . Waylon Jennings
      . Willie Nelson
      . Billy Joe Shaver
      . Kris Kristofferson
      . David Allen Coe
      . Kinky Friedman
      . Asleep at the Wheel (western swing revival)
      . Also: Tompall Glaser, Freddy Fender (Tex-mex/conjunto)

  --> Progressive country, II: Singers & songwriters
      . Joe Ely
      . Delbert McClinton
      . Guy Clark
      . Townes Van Zandt
      . Dwight Yoakam
      . Steve Earle
      . Lyle Lovett
      . Mary-Chapin Carpenter
      . Rosanne Cash
      . k.d. lang
      . Michelle Shocked
      . Lucinda Williams
=========================================================================
    The Louvin Brothers belong somewhere, but how to place them in relation
    to others?
    
    I'd also like to include Bob Dylan, but... Nashville?

    I have no idea how and/or whether to represent any of the following, not
    having heard enough of their music:
   
      Eddy Arnold, Bobby Bare, Bell & Shore, Bellamy Brothers, Clint Black,
      Bill Boyd, Elton Britt, Garth Brooks, Jimmy Bryant, Johnny Bush, Glen
      Campbell, Commander Cody, Tommy Collins, Country Gentlemen, J.D.
      Crowe, Rodney Crowell, Ted Daffon, Vernon Dalhart, Jimmie Davis, Jimmy
      Dean, Delmore Brothers, Desert Rose Band(?), Al Dexter, Jimmy Dickens...

      Dixon Brothers, Red Foley, Tennessee Ernie Ford, Foster & Lloyd(?),
      Bobbie Gentry, Don Gibson, Vince Gill, Johnny Gimble, Vern Gosdin,
      Grayson & Whitter, David Grisman (w/ Peter Rowan, Old & In the Way),
      Roy Hall, Tom T. Hall, Johnny Horton, Leon Huff, Sonny James, Jim &
      Jesse, The Judds, Kentucky Colonels/Stoneman Family, Pee Wee King...

      Alison Krauss, Uncle Dave Macon, Maddox Brothers & Rose, Wade Mainer,
      Reba McEntire, Sam & Kirk McGee, Roger Miller, Ronnie Milsap, Patsy
      Montana, Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, The O'Kanes, Osborne Brothers,
      Charlie Poole, Ray Price, Charley Pride, Riley Puckett, Reno & Smiley,
      Marty Robbins (later work), Seldom Scene, Shelton Brothers...

      Ricky Skaggs, Arthur "Guitar Boogie" Smith, Carl Smith, Connie Smith,
      Statler Brothers, George Strait, Gid Tanner, Floyd Tillman, Mel
      Tillis, Randy Travis, Tanya Tucker, Conway Twitty, Ricky Van Shelton,
      Porter Wagoner, Jerry Jeff Walker, Speedy West, The Whites, Keith
      Whitley, Slim Whitman, Hank Williams Jr., Faron Young, Steve Young.

    In short, suggestions are welcome; other than that, I'll just keep
    listening and reading.    - Jay

You forgot Ray Charles.

> You forgot Ray Charles.

    Yeah, how could I consider mentioning Dylan for "Nashville Skyline" (and
    doing "Blonde on Blonde" in Nashville when no other rocker would go near
    it, and his hip Hank Snow allusions) and leave out Ray Charles for the
    more important "Modern Sounds in C&W"...

    Elvis Costello deserves an honorary mention for his rendition of Leon
    Payne's "Psycho" -- Scariest Country Song, votes Martha Hume -- but if I
    open the door too wide someone will ask why no Linda Ronstadt, Eagles,
    Grateful Dead, Doug Sahm, ...  I've been fans of all of them at one time
    or another, but can't see them in a country tree.

> -< Pete Townshend covered a Don Gibson song >-

    And Neil Young did Gibson's "Oh Lonesome Me" (followed by the vaguely
    country "Harvest" album).  Solomon Burke did country numbers, before Ray
    Charles I think (my fave is "I Really Don't Want to Know", though "Just
    Out of Reach of My Two Empty Arms" charted higher).  Everyone's covered
    country.  Hard to think of someone who hasn't covered a country song or
    two, isn't it.    - Jay

    Mike Veduccio suggested the following changes, marked with *, for the
    country outline.  (I omitted full listings of "branches" for which no
    changes were suggested.)  There are some real good suggestions here.
       - Jay
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  --> Country folk (vs. "urban folk" of Woody Guthrie, Pete Seeger, etc.)
  --> Country blues
  --> Country string bands (proto-bluegrass)
  --> Singing cowboys

  --> Western swing
      . Bob Wills
      . Milton Brown
      . Spade Cooley
      . Also: Johnny Lee Wills
      * Pee Wee King

  --> Country gospel & ballads
      . Roy Acuff
      . Wilma Lee & Stoney Cooper
      . Molly O'Day
      . Also: Bill Monroe
      * Louvin Bros.
 
   *> Country Boogie
      * Delmore Bros,
      * Tenessee Ernie Ford
       
  --> Bluegrass

  --> Master pickers
      . Merle Travis
      . Chet Atkins
      . Doc & Merle Watson
      . Also: Hank Snow
      * Jimmy Bryant & Speedy West 
      * Joe Maphis
      * Jerry Reed
      * Clarence White

   *> Master Pedal Steel Players
      * Buddy Emmons 
      * Leon McCauliffe
      * Joaquin Murphy
      * Speedy West

  --> Cajun country

   *> Louisiana Rockabilly
      * Al Ferrier
      * Johnny Jano
      * Joe Clay
      * also R&D Kershaw
       
  --> Nashville/ countrypolitan sound (producers Chet Atkins, Billy Sherrill)

  --> Honky tonk/ Hard country, including the Bakersfield sound
      . Ernest Tubb
      . Hank Snow
      . Hank Williams
      . Lefty Frizzell
      . George Jones
      . Buck Owens
      . Merle Haggard
      . Wynn Stewart
      . Hank Thompson (honky tonk & western swing)
      . Gary Stewart
      . Moe Bandy
      * also Webb Pierce
      * Carl Smith
      * Johnny Horton
      * Eddie Noak

   *> Boogie-woogie piano
      . Moon Mullican
      . Jerry Lee Lewis
      * Roy Hall
      * (or maybe change tittle to country piano players and add)
      * Charlie Rich
      * Floyd Cramer
      * Mickey Gilley,etc.
           
  --> Female country stars      [can't seem to avoid a "women" category]
      . Kitty Wells
      . Patsy Cline
      . Loretta Lynn
      . Tammy Wynette
      . Dolly Parton
      . Emmylou Harris
      * Patsy Montanna

   *> Female honky tonk?/country singers
      * Jean Shepard
      * Ella Mae Morse
      * Rose Maddox     
      * also Patsy Cline,etc.
  
  --> Rockabilly
      . Elvis Presley
      . Jerry Lee Lewis
      . Johnny Cash
      . Buddy Holly (earlier work)
      . Also: Carl Perkins,* Charlie Rich,* Jack Clement, Burnette Trio,
          Everly Brothers, Sleepy Labeef, Eddie Cochran, Collins Kids
      * Warren Smith
      * Sonny Burgess
      * Ronnie Self
      * (not really sure that Charlie Rich or Jack Clement should be 
        classified as Rockabilly?)(also I would think of Johnny Cash as
        more of a Honky Tonk/Country singer than rockabilly same with C.Rich)
        I think Jack Climent is better known as a producer for some later
        Sun artists than as a prformer)
      * There are a lot of "one shot" or more obscure, but good Rockabillies I
        could name here. I am not sure if that's what your'e lookin for though.

   *> Female Rockabillies
      * Wanda Jackson
      * Janis Martin
      * Sparkle Moore
      * The Davis Sisters
      * Brenda Lee
      * also Rose Maddox,Lorrie Collins  
      
   *> Country Novelty
      * Homer & Jethro
      * Sheb Wooley
      * Little Jimmie Dickens
      * Roger Miller

   *> Master Country Songwriters
      * Harlan Howard
      * Leon Payne
      * also Hank Williams,etc.

   *> Truck song singers ?
      * Dave Dudley (Six Days On The Road)
      * Red Sovine  (Phantom 309,Teddy Bear)
      * C.W. McCall (Convoy)

  --> Country rock
      . Gram Parsons (w/ International Submarine Band, Byrds, Flying Burrito
          Brothers, Emmylou Harris)
      . Southern rock: Allman Brothers, Marshall Tucker Band, Charlie
          Daniels, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Black Oak Arkansas, Alabama
      * Commander Cody

  --> Progressive country/ outlaw country/ Texas sound:

   --> Progressive country, II: Singers & songwriters
      . Joe Ely
      . Delbert McClinton
      . Guy Clark
      . Townes Van Zandt
      . Dwight Yoakam
      . Steve Earle
      . Lyle Lovett
      . Mary-Chapin Carpenter
      . Rosanne Cash
      . k.d. lang
      . Michelle Shocked
      . Lucinda Williams
      * Butch Hancock
      * Jimmy Dale Gilmore
      * Carlene Carter

    *> Other Newer Artists That I Like ?
      * Kelly Willis
      * Jann Browne
      * Marty Brown
      * Marty Stewart
      * Sweethearts Of The Rodeo     
      * Lee Roy Parnell
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

    
    	You need more WOMEN!!!!
    
    	Lorrie Morgan, Pam Tillis, Kathy Mathea(sp),K.T.Oslin, K.D.Lang,
    Tanya Tucker, Patty Loveless...
    
    B.A.
    

    
    	I stand corrected.. you already mentiond Tucker and Lang..sorry...
    
    What about Roy Clark as guitar?
    
    B.A.
    

    
    For current information on k.d. lang, see note 676.30 in the
    COOKIE::FOLK_MUSIC conference.
    
    Virginia
    

Another woman - Del Wood, country piano, "Down Yonder"  -- another bit of
time traveling I'd like to do, Jerry Lee playing "Down Yonder" with Del Wood
at the Opry.

Western swing, category munging again:  Didn't Gatemouth Brown have a western
swing band?

Dobro/National Steel players:  Buck Graves, more

Mandolin players:  Jethro Burns (yes, the Homer and Jethro guy), many more.

    Lucinda Williams.
    
    Mark.

    BTW, I cross-posted the country outline in COOKIE::FOLK_MUSIC #877, and
    am getting excellent replies over there too.     - Jay

    
    women
    	Definately Patty Loveless, Robin Lee, and Juice Newton
    

    Just remembered that I meant to include John Anderson (honky-tonk
    revivalist?) in the country outline, as someone to look into. - Jay

    Has anyone got a phone number or address for the MCMA - Mass Country
    Music Association?
    
    Thanks,
    John

Does anybody know this one?  Part of the first verse:

	The best of intentions, a pound of prevention,
	Have parted convention, it wom't change a thing . . .

And the chorus:

	Well, the years and the fears and the smiles and the tears
	Is measured in mileage but don't shorten the fall
	For the lovable loser







, moaners and boozers, pickers and choosers,
	Well, God bless them all.

It's done in a waltz time (or 6/8?) and has a real Jeff Beck sounding
country guitar lead.

I have it on a tape from off the air.

Dolly Partons Soundtrack to Straight Talk only has 
1-2 decent songs on it.

Wynonna should do well with her new album - which is
for the most part - terrific.

Bill - A country music lover.

re: .62

>                                 ...and has a real Jeff Beck sounding
> country guitar lead.

Now *there's* a hard concept for me to picture :-)

    
    Actually, Jeff has great admiration for British country
    guitar great, Albert Lee.
    
    He has also kicked around the idea of is own rockabilly album.
    He did some unreleased tracks with the bass player and the drummer
    of the Stray Cats several years ago.
    
    One neat tidbit:  On the live version of "Jeff's Boogie"  (from
    Beck, Bogert, Appice Live in Japan) he breaks into a wild,
    finger-picked version of the Beverly Hillbillies Theme, on electric
    guitar, no less!
    
    So...he has it in him.
    
    Brian

	Actually Beck was influenced in his early days by Cliff Gallop
	who played guitar for Rockabilly Singer Gene Vincent.  (I think
	I remember reading a quote somewhere that Page told Jeff that
	he had to stop playing that "Hillbilly stuff" ...or something
	like that.)


	If you listen to some of the Vincent cuts with Gallop on guitar
	you can hear some early Jeff Beck in his playing...

	_gary

Moby Grape
Elvis Costello

    Someone came up with a great idea for displaying progressive vs.
    neo-trad branches of contemporary country, so at the risk of belaboring,
    I'm reposting the country music outline.  It's after a FF, so you can
    NEXT or NEXT UNSEEN here.

    <Introductory historical notes /TBS/.)

    I was able to find CD and LP recommendations for all the listed musicians
    in one or more of:
    - Down Home Music mailorder guide to country music
    - the John Morthland book "Best of Country Music"
    - the Martha Humes book "You're So Cold I'm Turning Blue"
                Jay
    
====================================================================
--> Old time music (early string bands & balladeers)
    . Ernest Stoneman
    . Uncle Dave Macon
    . Charlie Poole
    . Vernon Dalhart
    . Grayson & Whitter
    . Sam & Kirk McGee
    . Riley Puckett

--> Country folk/ country string bands/ balladeers/ country gospel
    . Carter Family
    . Blue Sky Boys
    . Monroe Brothers
    . Delmore Brothers (I)
    . Louvin Brothers
    . Wade Mainer
    . Roy Acuff
    . Wilma Lee & Stoney Cooper
    . Molly O'Day
    . Woody Guthrie (c.1940, pre-urban folk revival)

--> Country blues
    . Jimmie Rodgers
        --> Roy Acuff, Gene Autry, Bob Wills, Ernest Tubb, Hank Snow, Merle
            Haggard, etc.
    . Dixon Brothers

--> Singing cowboys
    . Gene Autry
    . Sons of the Pioneers
    . Tex Ritter

--> Western swing
    . Bob Wills
    . Milton Brown
    . Spade Cooley
    . Hank Thompson

--> Bluegrass
    . Bill Monroe
    . Flatt & Scruggs
    . Stanley Brothers
    . Reno & Smiley
    . Jim & Jesse
    . Country Gentlemen (newgrass)
    . Kentucky Colonels (L.A. bluegrass)
    . J.D. Crowe & the New South (w/ Ricky Skaggs [I])
    . The Whites (Buck White & the Down Home Folks)
    . David Grisman (including w/ Old & In the Way)
    . Seldom Scene
    . ?Alison Krauss

--> Honky tonk/ hillbilly boogie
    . Ernest Tubb
    . Delmore Brothers (II)
    . Merle Travis
    . Moon Mullican
    . Hank Williams
    . Lefty Frizzell
    . Hank Snow
    . Ray Price (I)
    . George Jones (I)
    . Johnny Horton
    . Little Jimmy Dickens
    . Maddox Brothers & Rose [Maddox]
    . Arthur "Guitar Boogie" Smith
    . Speedy West

--> Rockabilly
    . Elvis Presley
    . Johnny Cash (I)
    . Jerry Lee Lewis (I)
    . Buddy Holly

--> Nashville sound/ countrypolitan
    . Patsy Cline
    . Kitty Wells
    . Don Gibson
    . Loretta Lynn (also w/ Conway Twitty)
    . Johnny Cash (II)
    . Jerry Lee Lewis (II)
    . Tammy Wynette (also w/ George Jones)
    . Dolly Parton
    . Porter Wagoner & Dolly Parton
    . Tom T. Hall
    . Conway Twitty (also w/ Loretta Lynn)
    . George Jones (II, also w/ Tammy Wynette)
    . Eddy Arnold
    . Chet Atkins
    . Moe Bandy (I)
    . Bobby Bare (I)
    . Johnny Bush
    . Willie Nelson (I)
    . Charley Pride
    . Jim Reeves
    . Marty Robbins (I)
    . Carl Smith
    . Connie Smith
    . Statler Brothers (Lester "Roadhog" Moran satire album)
    . Mel Tillis
    . Tanya Tucker
    . Hank Williams Jr. (I)
    . Ray Price (II)

--> Bakersfield sound
    . Buck Owens
    . Merle Haggard
    . Tommy Collins
    . Wynn Stewart

--> Country rock
    . Gram Parsons (w/ The Byrds, Flying Burrito Brothers, Emmylou Harris)
    . Commander Cody
    . Emmylou Harris
    . Linda Ronstadt
    . Hank Williams Jr. (II)

--> Progressive country/ outlaw/ Texas sound/ singers & songwriters
    . Willie Nelson (II)
    . Waylon Jennings
    . Kris Kristofferson
    . Billy Joe Shaver
    . David Allen Coe
    . Bobby Bare (II)
    . Kinky Friedman
    . Joe Ely
    . Delbert McClinton
    . Guy Clark
    . Jerry Jeff Walker
    . Townes Van Zandt
    . Steve Young
    . Rosanne Cash
    . Rodney Crowell
    . Dwight Yoakam
    . Steve Earle
    . ?Mary-Chapin Carpenter, ?Vince Gill, ?Lyle Lovett, ?k.d. lang,
        ?Michelle Shocked, ?Lucinda Williams

--> Neo-traditional currents & revivals
    . Country folk: Doc & Merle Watson, Nitty Gritty Dirt Band ("Will the
        Circle Be Unbroken?")
    . Singing cowboys: Marty Robbins (II, "Gunfighter Ballads")
    . Western swing: Asleep at the Wheel, Johnny Gimble ("Texas Dance
        Party")
    . Honky tonk: Gary Stewart, Moe Bandy (II), John Anderson, George
        Strait, ?Vern Gosdin
    . Mainstream: Randy Travis, Reba McEntire, Ricky Skaggs (II), ?Clint
        Black, ?Garth Brooks, ?Ricky Van Shelton, ?The Judds
====================================================================

    What happens when you play Country Music backwards ?
    
    You sober up
    
    You leave the bar
    
    Your pickup truck gets fixed
    
    You get your job back
    
    Your wife and kids come home
    
    ;-) karl

    


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    24 - Opening day Jamboree....$6.00
    25 - American Heart Association Jamboree...$6.00
         (Local Country-Western talents is showcased)

Jun 07 - The Stan Jr. Show  $10.00
    14 - Big Al Downing Show  $10.00
    21 - Johnny Paycheck
    28 - Pam Tillis

Jul 04 - Jack D'Johns
    05 - Eddie Rabbit
    12 - *** The Oak Ridge Boys
    19 - Waylon Jennings
    26 - Patty Loveless

Aug 02 - *** George Jones
    09 - Mickey Gilley
    16 - Helen Reddy
    23 - ***Sawyer Brown
    30 - Charlie Daniels

Sep 06 - Lorrie Morgan
    07 - Jamboree

*** One show only

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Tickets available at Indian Ranch and all Ticketmaster outlets
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    	Has anyone besides me seen the new video for the this animated movie
    called "Cockadoo" or something like that. The title song for the movie
    is sung by Glenn Campbell and it sounds alot like Elvis...as does the
    rooster who sings the song in the movie...greased back hair, strutting
    around..cool video!

    	To me, it sounds like Glenn's voice is overdubed by an Elvis
    impersonator.

    B.A.

    Yeah, it's supposed to be a take off on Elvis .. I bety it'd be a riot!
    
    Jerry (uh thankyuh, thankyuh very much ...)

    It was all Glen Campbell's voice.  I saw him interviewed on
    Entertainment Tonight, he purposly did it with an Elvis flair.
    
    Joyce

    It is called "Rockadoodle", and has been soundly thrashed by critics,
    parents AND children!  (Or so I've heard).
    
    K.C.

    
    The critics, most notably Siskel and Ebert, did nail "Rock-a-Doodle"
    to the ground.
    
    I was surprised because it is a Don Bluth creation.  Bluth is an
    ex-Disney guy, responsible for "All Dogs Go to Heaven" and several
    other animated features that I can't think of at the moment.
    
    "Rock-a-Doodle" should be worth a few 'yuks' once it comes out on
    video.
    
    Brian

    Siskel and Ebert also trashed All Dogs Go To Heaven - they compared
    themusical numbers to Little Mermaid and basically said Don Bluth's
    production co was not up to snuff and could not come close to the
    quality at Disney...and they trashed the story line.
    
    IMO - I watch S&E just to find out about movies that aren't generally
    advertised well yet I will not - see or not see a movie based on their
    opinion.
    
    IMO #2 - re kids not liking it....I think kids prefer video versus
    movie theaters - they get restles and have extremly short attention
    spans - at least at home they can get up and move around or change
    positions etc...
    
    Joyce
    
    

    
    	Anywas, I still think the song is a trip!
    
    
    B.A.

    Hopefully, some of you CW buffs can help me out.  In a recent
    interview, Travis  Tritt said some unflattering things about Billy Ray
    Cyrus, and Billy's new hit "Achy Breaky Heart".  Can anyone tell me
    what exactly was said ?  TNN and the local radio stations are buzzing
    about it, and curious minds wanna know !
    
    Jerry  

    I think he just basically said that he didn't like it, that he thought
    the song was silly and the video was overdone.
    
    He apologized for hurting Cyrus' feelings, but did NOT apologize for
    his opinion.
    
    K.C.

    Well, I gotta agree with Mr. Tritt on this one, but unfortunately,
    there are a zillion women around the world that think Billy Ray Cyrus
    is god's gift to them.  Of course, these are the same women that don't
    think Mariah carey can sing that well either ... 8^)  Yes, she sings
    too !
    
    TNN had an interview with Billy Ray Cyrus at Fanfair, and this guy
    really acted pretty dumb, maybe it wasn't an act, I don't know.  I
    don't think you'll see too much more out of him.  I had the opportunity
    to "endure" his entire CD last weekend, and other than "Achy Breaky
    Heart" (which is geared to hit the female population below the belt,
    period) the CD showed me nothing.  But honestly, I wasn't very
    objective either ... it may have some sleepers on there, we'll see.
    
    But from the recent awards shows, and various interviews on TNN, the
    whole country music world is quietly laughing at this guy.  'Course,
    he's laughing all the way to da bank too ... 8^)
    
    Jerry

    
    
    	Read something about this in an entertainment section of a
    newspaper.  From what I remember... 
    
    	One of Cyrus' videos shows him getting out of a limo and people 
    run over and mob him.  Apparently, Tritt said something to the effect 
    of... gimme a break, no one even knows who this guy is.
    
    
    Paul
                                                      

    Sounds like something Travis would say.  I think Travis's song "Here's 
    A Quarter" should be adopted as the theme song for the "Heman's Women
    Hater's Club" ... Spanky would be proud !  And speaking of that, I
    jammed with my old band a few months back ... when we did this song,
    people in the crowd started throwing quarters to the stage ! 
    Naturally, at the end of the set, our drummer picked 'em all up and
    bought a drink with it ... 8^)
    
    Jerry
    
    

    
    	I can't imagine why Tritt thinks songs about drinking and smoking
    give him any grounds to criticize another song!  I like Tritt and his
    songs, but when you show up for a show absolutly drunk..that's no way 
    to present yourself to your fans as Travis did.
    
    	I don't like Achey Breaky Heart, but Hell, I don't like alot of
    tunes...
    
    	Tritt is just jealous of all the attention this new *star* is
    getting for his million dollar whimp song.
    
    IMHO  :*)
    
    B.A.

    
    Tritt is a twit.

    Yeah, but there ain't nothing wrong with his radi-adi-o.  Sorry....
    
    Capt. Scott

    Forget Travis and Mr. Achey Breaky Heart.  If you want real talent,
    pick up Hal Ketchum's "Past the Point of Rescue."  I've played this
    tape so much I know it by heart. And I still love it.  
    
    Kathy

    Yeah, Travis really doesn't have a lot of room to talk about this
    "nobody" .... he was in the same boat a few years back.  Hmmm,
    selective amnesia, I guess ...
    
    Jerry

     Yeowww,
    
    	Just rake on the guy.  He is not to bad when you get him away from
    the big city lights.  He played at a local rodeo/auction in Florida not
    to long back.  He sat and ate bb-q chicken and baked beans with my
    grandmother!!!!!
    	I have a question/comment on Clint Black.  A friend just paid an
    outrageous ammount for "best seats in the house" tickets for his Sept.
    19th show.  Is he any good in concert?  I have heard good and bad about
    him.  See, I have NEVER been to a concert and would like to know what
    to expect.  Any stories or warnings would be accepted.
    
    thanks,
    
    
    virginia				

    
    	Thanks for the reply.  I have a friend who went to see Garth a few
    weeks ago.  He said He was expecting the same kind of concert as the
    video one.  He felt Garth is trying to appeal to the Rock fan more than
    the die hard country fans.  I prefer country-rock myself.  I have
    gotten pretty sick of "friends in Low Places" live version.  It's
    played every hour on the radio.
    	As far as  Clint Black goes, I will have a great time and Hopefully
    he will loosen up some and give a good concert.  Any other comments on
    concerts are welcome.
    
    
    virginia

    
    	Me again,
    
    		I am looking for the artist of a particular song.  This
    song has not been played on the radio but I have heard it at our local
    country dance bar.
      Moderator, this is the actual song title, I hope it
    doesn't go over the boundries.
    	The title is "Stroke It".  The artist is fairly new and has other
    songs on the charts and radio.  I just  can't think of what they are
    right now.  The song isn't for family socials (hence no radio play) 
    but it has a great work out beat.  Plus, I have a friend overseas
    (Japan) who doesn't belive the song exists.  I need to find it so I
    send it to him.
    	Again, I hope I haven't oversteped the boundries.
    
    
    Any thoughts would be appreciated.
    
    
    
    thanks in advance,\
    
    
    virginia

    "Strokin'" by Clarence Carter ... several versions out ... one made
    *me* blush.  8^)   He's got several off-color cuts out.
    
    Jerry

    re .-1
    
    Is this the same Clarence Carter who was(is?) a blind R&B musician?  He
    did a mean version of "Harper Valley PTA."  :^)
    
    Jamie

    re.93
    
    	What cut is on the CD assuming it is on CD.  Do you know the title
    of theCD it would be on?????
    		Just full of questions, Don't ask me any   I know Nothing!!
    
    
    thanks
    
    
    virginia

>    	What cut is on the CD assuming it is on CD.  Do you know the title
>    of theCD it would be on?????

    Well, *if* Clarence Carter's "Strokin'" is the song & the version you
    seek, it's on the new "Snatching It Back: Best of Clarence Carter"
    (Rhino single CD reissue of Atlantic material).  [Side note for R&B fans
    -- the 3 sequential songs I keep playing from that are "I Can't See
    Myself", "Road of Love", and "Slip Away"...]   - Jay

    re .-1
    
    You just answered my earlier question in the affirmative.  BTW, Duane
    Allman plays guitar on "Road of Love."
    
    Jamie

    Unfortunately, I was completely full of it.  "Strokin'" is *not* on the
    Rhino "best of".  I was thinking of a friend's personal compilation.
    Sorry!  I know it's available on CD, but which....?
    
    I'm also not positive it's the cut the original questioner was
    seeking...  - Jay

    re.98
    
    The "cut" I'm looking for is the one that is played in the country
    bars.  I have never heard any other ones.  They don't play that kind of
    stuff on the radio here.  It may be California, but we do have our
    limits.  I'll have to go to the music stores here (one every block) and
    see if I can find it.  Can you belive country music often ends up in
    the "bargan bins" here.  I pick up the last Juds tape and paid only
    $3.00 for it.  That stuff will be colectors items in a few years.
    
    Thank you for the information.
    
    virginia

    Anyone sen the video for "Help, I'm white and can't get down" by the
    Geezenslaw (sp?) brothers.  Sort of a take off on country rap.  It's 2
    damn funny ... 8^)
    
    Jerry

    ...than there was this joke about Jesus, who after just being
    resurrected, walked into a night club where everyone one dancing and
    having a good time.  After many attempts at the newst dance steps he
    was heard to cry out, "Help - I've Risen and I can't get down!"
    
    sorry....it's not that I wanted to tell it; I had to.
    
    Capt. Scott
                                                         

    I understand ..... ;^)

    
         Hi ya all,,
    
             I've been a country music fan for as long as I can remember. I
    often looked for a C&W conference in here and could never find one, so
    I'm definitely glad that ones now on the go. I have a few questions I
    thought some of you other fans of great music might be able to answer.
    
      -  I've heard Vince Gills new song "I Still Believe In You" I think
    this is a beautyfull ballad, however I'm wondering about buying the Cd
    for this as I haven't heard alot of his other tunes??..
    
      -  I haven't heard much of hoyte Axton did he just drop of the face
    of the earth or what???..
    
      -  I never really listened alot to Marty Stewart, but he has a new
    tune out now with Travis Tritt call "A Long Long Time Is Forever" and I
    like it alot. Can Anyone give me any feedback on Marty, this tune puts
    me more in mind of the good old traditional country music???...
    
      -  And there's a new tune out called "Letting Go", I can't remember
    who sings it right now but it's a pretty good tune about a girl leaving
    home, and some of the emotions her and her mother go through. It seem
    to be a nice tune but then again I guess it all depends on taste.
    
     - Last but not least who sings "But There Ain't Nothin Wrong My
    Radio"??....
    
    
    Hope someone can help me out with these.
    
    
    Thanks..
    
    Rose..
     

    
    
    Umm, Gee, Rose,
    
    			Soo many questions and I have drawn a blank.  I'll
    get back to ya but someone else in here is sure to come up with the
    answers.  I love country music but don't get too involved in who sings
    what.  I love it because I dance to it.  Have fun in the file.  This
    one takes a bit of coaxting to keep this one going. 
    
    		Virginia

re: .103
    
>      -  I haven't heard much of hoyte Axton did he just drop of the face
>    of the earth or what???..
    
Hoyt never really has gotten much radio play.  He's written a lot of songs
that other people have gotten air time with, though (Three Dog Night's
"Joy to the World" is one of the more well known ones).  I believe
Hoyt also does a lot of record producing.

>      -  I never really listened alot to Marty Stewart, but he has a new
>    tune out now with Travis Tritt call "A Long Long Time Is Forever" and I
>    like it alot. Can Anyone give me any feedback on Marty, this tune puts
>    me more in mind of the good old traditional country music???...
    
Marty Stuart has a major background in "good old traditional country music".
As a child, he played mandolin with Bill Monroe's Bluegrass Boys.

>Marty Stuart has a major background in "good old traditional country music".
>As a child, he played mandolin with Bill Monroe's Bluegrass Boys.
    
    BZZZT!  Wrong, he was mandolinist for Lester Flatt's Nashville Grass. 
    He also did a stint with Johnny Cash after Lester passed on.  I saw him
    in the last years of the N. Grass, and he was wicked hot even then. 
    That was close to fifteen years ago. 
    
    							Brian

Marty Stewart is married, I believe to a member of either the Cash or Carter
family.  Wish I could remember who.

On the "new" Travis Tritt CD (It's All About To Change) he does a duet with
Marty - "The Whiskey Ain't Working Anymore".  It's pretty good - an improvement
over some of his more recent stuff, which seemed too rock- or Elvis-like for me.
(Not that I dislike Elvis, mind you.)

I don't remember who does "Ain't nothing wrong with the radio" either - one of
the "newer" guys - Aaron Tippin (sp) maybe, Joe Diffee (sp)?  LOVE that song!

Vince Gill's new album containing "I Still Believe In You" will be released
September 15th.  I'm hopelessly biased, but based on his previous CD's, this
one should have at least one or two other great tunes.  Wouldn't be suprised
to find a duet with some other country stars on there as well.

Hoyt Axton - dunno.  Heard he was writing songs.

Marty Stuart - actually, Marty *did* play with Bill Monroe.  I saw him at
a bluegrass festival in Staten Island in '75 with Bill Monroe.  Yup, he also 
played with Cash (bass, oddly enough) and I've mixed shows where he played 
mando and guitar with Doc Watson...just after Merle was killed.  Besides Ricky
Skaggs, he's one of the few performers who plays a 'Mandocaster'.

'Letting Go' - can't help you with that one.

'Ain't Nothing Wrong' is an Aaron Tippett tune.  As an aside, I didn't like 
him when I first heard him, because I lump him into the 'traditional country'
category: simple production, kind of a nasally twang, not a lot of vocal
harmony.  Then, I heard an interview with him on the radio and I gotta say I
take him a little more seriously.  He had some cool things to say about 
the music biz, about writing tunes.  He's a staff writer at Rose-Acuff, one
of the big song houses in Nashville.

Regards,
John

    
    
    	See Rose,
    
    		I told ya some one in here would know all the answers.
    
    			What does everyone think of Wynona Judds latest
    song. (Sorry, I've drawn a blank again, just one of those days)
    
    
    virginia

    
       This is great,
    
    
             I must admit I really hadn't expected all these reply's
    especially so fast, I am definitely impressed and you can bet I'l stay
    with this conference for awhile.
    
             Thank you all very much for all the reply's, and I am going out
    tomorow right after work to by the Vince Gille Cd as I can't get this
    tune out of my head. 
    
             As far as the tune "Letting Go" I heard it tonight on the
    radio, it's sung be Susie Boguss. If you haven't heard it yet, you
    should soon it's a very nice Ballad.
    
             Now as for Wynonna Judd, I really wondered how she would do as
    a solo act sometimes people get so used to hearing the duet group that
    when one goes solo it can hurt them pretty bad. I have heard one of
    Wynonna's songs here on the radio, and it sounds really good I think
    she'll do ok on her own.
    
             Two quick question has anyone heard the tune "I Could Love You
    With My Eye's Closed"....
    
             And has anyone in this conference ever been to Nashville
    Tennessee, if so how long did you stay?? and what did you think??....
    
    
     Well Gotta Go, again thanks for the help.
    
      Rose..   The Bartman...
    
    
    

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>Besides Ricky
>Skaggs, he's one of the few performers who plays a 'Mandocaster'.

Boston band Blood Oranges features a Mandocaster.  They even put its picture
on the album.

    Hey Rose,
    
    	I have heard the song, "I Could Love You With My Eyes Closed", but
    again I can't think of who sings it.  It's a good buckle-polishin song
    if you can find someone who can one-step.  
    	I like the way Wynona has been doing her songs.  She has always
    been very strong in her vocals and now can sing just about anything the
    way she wants to.  
    
    			Virginia

    
    	I just got some more info on the Clint Black concert on Sept. 19
    here in So.Cal.  Playing at the Irvine Apatheater will be Arron Tippon
    and Little Texas along with Clint Black.  Can't wait!
    
    Virgina

    'I Could Love You With My Eyes Closed' - The Remingtons.
    
    I *heard* the new Vince Gill album has not been released to stores
    yet.  It's usual practice for CD companies to pre-release an album
    to radio before general release.  So...you might not find it yet.

    .114 KELLYJ,
    
            Your right I looked around for Vince Gills Cd last week and could
not find it anywhere, hopefully it will be released soon..
    
            Hi there Virginia, hows it going?? You were saying that you
    think the tune I Could Love You With My Eyes Closed was a godd dancing
    tune. Well the way we dance up here is completely different from your
    dancing, although don't get me wrong I've seenthe dance steps that you
    people use and they look like a lot of fun. Is this what you folks call
    cagun music..
    
              P.S.  Ant feedback on Reba Macintyre????????
    
    
     

    .115
    
    	"I Could Love You With My Eyes Closed" is good and slow if you have
    someone you can get close to, but one could even do the one-step or an
    up beat two-step.  It all depends on how well you get along with your 
    partner.
    
    	I love Reba.  She has such range and control over everything she
    sings.  I have met her a few times and she has always been wonderful,
    even inviting me and my friends back stage for something to eat.  I
    guess they had a buffet before the show and there was some left overs.
    
    			Virginia

    Right On Virginia!!!!!!!
    
    
                You've met Reba, and you've gone backstage and lunched with
    her band, wow how awesome.. I think she is great and I've got just
    about all of her cd's, including her latest with the tune " Is There
    Life Out There", and "Bobby I'll Take Care Of You" these tunes are
    great. When I went to Nashville for vacation last year, I visited
    Gilley's bar and made a video tape of one of her songs "When Whoever's
    In New Englands Threw With You" in a keriocki contest. By any chance
    have you seem her video yet from the single "Bobby I'll Take Care Of
    You"???????? as well how did you manage to meet and get to know her on
    such a personal level????.......
    
    
    
    Rose..
     

    
    Another big Reba fan here.  I envy you Virginia for getting to 
    meet the lady.  I'd love to have that opportunity.  Any word on 
    when her next album will be coming out ?  
    
    Lv

    Where are the Country bars in the Southern NH - Northern MA area?
    
    There seems to be a cluster of such places on the South Shore ie
    Tumbleweeds in N. Grafton, Carpenters in Southboro, The Homestead in N.
    Attleboro, Tex's Lounge in (I forget) -- but there seems to be a shortage
    of such places up here.  The only place I know of in Exeter NH -
    Laura's Place but I don't think they do only Country music.  They mix
    it up a bit from what I hear.
    
    Has anyone out there got a listing of places one can go to see/hear
    Country bands?  I'm also interested in pursuing work at these
    establishments for my own Country band. Any leads would be greatly
    appreciated.
    
    Thanx .... Dan

    Dan,
    
    I wouldn't call Grafton or Southboro the South Shore!
    
    I used to gig around Worcester county doing C&W from about 81 to 86 and
    many of the places we used to play have been shut up or changed
    formats. There were never all that many anyway.  
    
    There's the Blue Star in Saugus (North Shore),  that truck stop in
    Amesbury (near NH line).  I think the Mt. Auburn in Auburn, MA still
    has bands but that place is a real pit.
    
    You might want to try talking some VFWs or neighborhood bars into 
    letting you do some self-promoted shows.  You can also try to get house
    gigs at small watering holes, Northboro used to have *two* but both
    joints have since been leveled in the cause of progress 8;( 
    
    If you can find someone who has contacts with the Mass. Country Music
    Assn. (I don't) you can probably get some names and phone numbers from
    them.
    
    						Brian

    Hey ya Rose,
    
    	I was working in security and just happened to know the stage
    manager.  They were just finishing up the sound check and Reba was just
    stroling around listening.  She turned to the back was and asked us how
    it sounded.  After that, my partner and I were running back a forth in
    the theater helping with the soundcheck.  In the end she thanked us and
    asked if we wanted some of the buffet.  She is truely a wonderful lady
    and did talk with us like one of the band members.
    	Nothing was realy discused, Just talk about the cities she had been
    in and a few funny stories about the road trip.  I have no clue when
    her next album is coming out.  I'm sure it will be great.  I don't get
    the country video chanel here, to un-California I guess.  I do go to a
    few bars that show videos and have seen alot of the new ones.  One of
    my favorites is John Anderson's "Seminole Whind"  (I think that is the
    title).
    	I saw Carleen Carter last night at the Cowboy Boodie.  She was
    pretty good.  Gawd, she is a bitty little woman!  The dance floor was
    open and my partner and I took full advantage.  I don't think we stoped
    dancing for the whole show, 45 minutes.  My legs are a bit sore today!!
    
    			Have a good day all,
    
    
    				Virginia

    
    
    As much as I agree with you all about Reba being a fine singer...
    I think she is lacking in the area of danceable songs..she seems to do
    a lot of ballads...belt buckle dance tunes....just my opinion..
    
    RE: .119 - Dan...I can tell you many places that do country dancin...
               all yo uhave to do is send me mail and ask!
    
    RE: 121 (bitty little woman) - Heck Virginia...most men a tiny compared
    to you...heck aren't you like 5'10" (barefoot)???????   :-)...
    
    Ken
    
    

    Ken,
    		I think you go to the wrong place to dance if all they play
    are Reba's ballads.  Most all her songs are danceable unless you are
    doing the Cha Cha or polka.  Gesh, any good dancer can dance to
    anything.:-)))
    
    		Don't ya hate me sometimes.
    
    

    
    RE:123
    
    Well Virginia to be honest I very rarely hear anyone play Reba's music 
    out heyah in the dance halls so I don't have to worry about figuring 
    out what dance to do...Like I mentioned I think she does more "slow"
    stuff..(Listening Music)..I tend to look for good dance
    songs...forinstance....Brooks and Dunn.."Brand New Man"..whoa..now
    that's a good CD with lots of good dance music!
    
    RE: Any good dancer can dance to anything. :-)))
    
    (TRUE..so true..BUT....any good dancer doesn't dance to "just" 
    anything!...( and R U wearing your boots now)....not to pat myself 
    on the back but I'm the BEST country dancer/instructor in these 
    parts!... :-)..or least I have been told that!...
    
    RE: Don't ya hate me somtimes.
    
    (Well girl keep it up and you're gonna git yerself a good woopin!..
    and beside...5'10" blonde hair..blue eyes with an attitude....heck I
    luv ya! :-)))) )
    
    Kayean
    
    

    I have already replied to this off-line.  Stew in it Ken :-)))
    
    	I have found Reba's music to be full of emotion and true to heart. 
    She has actually lived some of her songs.  I am mainly interested in
    her control and range ability.  If I can't dance to some of her songs
    at least listening to them is enjoyable.
    
    	Ken,
    
    		Maybe I will have to come out there and show you how to
    adapt you dance style to any music.  :-)))
    
    Virginia

    
    
    Wasn't Reba a opera singer at one time or something like that
    
    RE: come out here and dance
    
    (C'mon...at least we'll have fun teaching each other new and exciting
    dance moves..although you'r kinda tall for me...I'm only 6'1".)
    
    I just want to let the "readers" on this topic know that Virginia
    and I are pen-pal buddies....we're just having some FUN with each
    other!
    
    Kayean
    

    
    
    Nope NOpe NOPe,
    	I belive Reba was a gospel singer.  Where are all the experts
    today?
    
    	Only 6'1", I guess I will have to compensate.  Can't never find the
    right dance partner!
    
    Virginia

    I have started a conversation in ERIS::DANCE about the danceablity of
    Reba's songs.  Its under COUNTRY WESTERN- two step dancing.
    
    

    
    Virginia,
    
          I've worked security for a log time now, and before joining Dec
    security I worked on contract basis however was never fortunate enough
    to actually work concerts. However my brother went to a concert last
    year in which Reba performed, I couldn't go as I couldn't get the time
    off work or tickets as it was a sell out first day they were sold
    *sniff* *sniff* boo-hoo. As well you mentioned Carleen Carter can you
    refresh my memory on this one, I don't believe I've heard any of her
    music can you mention a couple of her tunes??.. 
    
           So you and Ken are pretty good friends in this file, should I
    believe him when he says he's a very good (best) dancer/instructor. I
    really wish there were more people who enjoy country music in my area.
    I find not alot of the crowd in my age group here in Ottawa like it,
    they seem to be more into this heavy metal or head banging stuff.
    
           As far as Reba goes if she keeps up the way she's going right
    now she'll always be great in my books..
    
    
       Rose.. :-))))))))))
    
    

    Hey Rose,
    
    	I seems we frequent the same notes.
    
    		I don't know Ken other than the notesfiles.  As he stated
    in the DANCE notesfile, I am in California And he is on the East coast. 
    Poor Bugger.  
    	I hate it when tickets get sold out in the first few hours.  It
    must be nice to take a day off work to sit in line to get tickets. 
    some of us can't do that.  I am fortunate to have alot of friends who
    will buy 12 tickets at a time, then call their friends and see who
    wants to go.  That is how I got my Clint Black tickets.  
    	Carleen Carter is one of the Carter/Cash kids, I think.  I couldn't
    tell any of her songs at the moment,  My brain is in work mode and I
    can't think of music things.  I'm sure the experts in this file will
    have the answers.  It was a fun concert but the crowd just wasen't that
    pumped.  She also wore a real shor sequenced black dress.  Not very
    country at all.  I was dancing the whole time, my first love.
    
    		Virginia

    
    
    	George Strait and Holly Dunn are playing at Mirmar Air Station on
    October 10, 1992.  I don't know the cost of the tickets but it is
    general admission,(that means dancing).  The gates open at 4pm and the
    concert starts at 7pm (that means some serious partying)
    
    	I realize most of you are on the East coast but I just thought I
    would put this in here so people would know where they were playing.
    
    	oh yeh,  They will be filming for a video also.
    
    Virginia

    RE Vince Gill's new CD: Released September 1.  For folks local to
    eastern Mass/sothern New Hamster, WOKQ (97.9FM) will be playing a 3
    hour special tomorrow (Friday, Sept.4) starting at 9:00pm: subject is
    Vince and will feature the new album and friends dropping in to jam.
    
    Dang, I have a gig!  The tape machine will be rolling, however.
    
    Re Carlene Carter: Daughter of Johnny and June.  Had a minor hit
    recently with a perky little tune called 'I Fell In LOve', graced by
    the guitar gymanastics of Albert Lee.  Also, Roland White makes an
    appearance (brother of the legendary Clarence).  IMHO, Carlene's 
    making the most of less-than-awesome talent.
    
    Boy I guess I'm gonna make a lot of enemies when I say I think Reba
    is a fairly lame singer.  It always sounds to me like she's shouting
    the words rather than singing them.  'Course, I'm in disagreement with
    about 99% of the music world on this.
    
    Re places to play: Hi Dan!  I assume your band also plays some 'oldies
    that are also country' e.g. 'Pretty Woman' (Roy Orbison).  If so, then
    you could fit into the following dives that I frequent:
    
    	JV's Pub
    	Fitchburg
    
    	Camp David
    	Shirley
    
    	Kelly's
    	Manchester, CT.
    
    	Club Boston
    	Fitchburg (Sunday's country music day)
    
    	Karen's Lounge
    	Ayer
    
    	Willy's Rib House
    	Northboro
    
    	Saco's
    	Watertown (Booked by John Penny)
    
    	Adelphia Lounge
    	Dorchester

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>    Re Carlene Carter: Daughter of Johnny and June. 


Bzzzzzzt! No, no!  Johnny Cash & June Carter Cash only have one child, a son.
(Now that I've criticized, I must admit _I_ don't know who her parents are.)

    Okay, okay, okay...I'm not too proud to admit it when I'm wrong.  So
    sue me =8^)
    
    But I thought Roseanne Cash (Seven Year Ache, Love Is Like A Train,...)
    was Johnny and June's daughter.  I think Rodney Crowell will vouch for
    the fact the Roseanne is not a son.

RE: last few

    Carlene Carter is the daughter of well known Country singer
  Carl Smith and June Carter. She is Johnny Cash's step-daughter.
  I am also sure that Roseanne Cash is Johnny's real daughter.

     I saw Carlene play at "The Channell" in Boston right before they
   closed it down and she put on a great show there. Great band and 
   a lot of energy.I personally think if anything she is under-rated 
   as a singer and songwriter.

    Mike

And June Carter is the daughter of the legendary A.P. Carter and Mother 
Maybelle, who were literally the founding father and mother of commercial
country music.

In the 20s record companies were adventurous.  RCA Victor sent a producer to
Bristol, Tennessee in 1929 to do auditions.  One of the people in line was
A.P. Carter.  Next in line was Jimmy Rodgers, the singing brakeman.  Before
Carter and Rodgers there was virtually nothing.  After "Wildwood Flower" and 
"T for Texas" there was an industry.

    
    
    I was fortunate enough to get Chris LaDioux tickets for Sept. 21st. at
    the Cowboy Boogie company.  I have never seen him in concert and hope
    it will be a good show.  The dance floors will be open.  
    
    So now it looks like Clint Black on the 19Th, Chris LaDioux on the
    21st, and George Strait on Oct. 10th.  I'm just the happening country
    music concert goer.
    
    

    
      Gidday All,
    
            Thanks to all for the infor on Carleen Carter and I have heard
    the tune "I Fell In Love" and think it's a pretty good one. As far as
    Clint Black well both his as well as Allen Jackson's picture hang in my
    locker, I saw Allen in concert in Nashville last year (Grand Ole
    Oprey) he was great.
    
            One of my friends has just ordered the dance video for "Achy
    Breaky Heart" Billy Ray Cyrus. Apparently were all going to try to
    learn this, has anyone else bought this tape?? or do any of you know
    how to do this?? it looks like a lot of fun when they play it on The
    Nashville Network....
    
            Heard a nice tune tonight coming in but don't know who sings
    it, I think it's called "Hey Mister I need This Job".
    
    
    Rose..
    

        I'm looking for the rest of the lyrics of a song that started
    
        "I don't care if it rains or freezes,
         long as I have my plastic Jeezes,
         sittin on the dashboard of my car........"
    
        And who sang that song anyway?
     

 Country America magazine polled readers regarding top country songs of
 all-time.  Not too notable in itself, except I was surprised to find I
 don't own a copy of, and prehaps[sic] have never heard, the #1 fans'
 choice:

      George Jones, "He Stopped Loving Her Today"

 I know the rest of the top 10 though.  [It's obligatory to note that Merle
 Travis actually wrote "Sixteen Tons", Willie Nelson wrote "Crazy", etc.]

      Vince Gill, "When I Call Your Name"
      Garth Brooks, "The Dance"
      Patsy Cline, "Crazy"
      Patsy Cline, "I Fall to Pieces"
      Marty Robbins, "El Paso"
      Hank Williams, "Your Cheatin' Heart"
      Hank Williams, "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry"
      Tennessee Ernie Ford, "Sixteen Tons"
      Hank Williams, "Lovesick Blues"

  Wonder if the same poll was the source for the Top 500 country songs WOKQ
  radio was playing this weekend...  I recognized the songs in the middle
  200s -- but not #1...    - Jay

  P.S. Also obligatory to note, it's a crock that Jimmie Rodgers (Waiting
       For a Train?) and the Carter Family (Circle?) aren't in the Top 10.

    
    
    RE: .138
    
    I know and teach the "Achy Breaky" line dance...what do yo need to
    know?
    
    Ken
    
    

    Re: .140
    
    That George Jones was a huge hit around 1981.   It's a real weeper,
    with G. moaning about a guy still carrying a torch for his ex, the
    title refers to the guy passing away.  Of his more recent songs, it's a
    real good one, maybe the best.  
    
    						Brian

Carter Family -- "Wildwood Flower"

> Carter Family -- "Wildwood Flower"

  Yeah -- also the first song I learned on guitar...  I would think "Will
  the Circle Be Unbroken?" has to be the most covered, though.
  
  That's helpful info about the G. Jones -- should be easy to locate, thx.
    - Jay

re: .139

>        "I don't care if it rains or freezes,
>         long as I have my plastic Jeezes,
>         sittin on the dashboard of my car........"
    
Actually, that's "Jesus", not "Jeezes".  It's a reference to the little
plastic statues with magnetic bases of various religious figures that
were popular among Catholics years ago.  The only other verse I remember
is:

    I don't care if it's dark and scary
    Long as I've got magnetic Mary...

    Isn't that song about the plastic Jesus a John Prine song?  Not to be
    confused with Bobby Bare's "Dropkick Me Jesus Through The Goalposts Of
    Life".
    
    						Brian

Whoever wrote it, it ain't nothing but phony.  Southern Protestants don't put 
plastic Jesus statues in their cars, or Virgin Mary statues either.

It's kind of a funny song.  I sing it to myself now and then.  But it's a fake
if it's supposed to represent the thoughts of any kind of Southern Protestant.

    re: .139  I don't care if it rains or freezes...
    
    FWIW, that song appeared in the Paul Newman classic 
    "Cool Hand Luke".
    \Gary

    re:  a few back
    
    	Rose, 
    	
    	I have heard that son "I need this Job".   I can't( as usual)
    remember the name of the artist.  This son brings tears to my eyes as I
    had a hard time finding this job, and I am a single parent.  My son was
    the one relying on me.  
    
    	Ken,
    
    	You never told me you know the "Ichy Britches Hurt".  I learned it
    a while ago and the dancers out here have already modidified it into
    some sudo-s*x dance.  I have never seen the tape so I realy don't know
    how the original dance was done, I'm sure Billy didn't intend for it to
    be done the way I have seen it.  
    
    ps. hows the back today??
    
    Virginia

    Jay,
    
      "Will The Circle Go Unbroken" I used to love that tune and used to
    sing it with my mom all the time. Still crank up the radio when I here
    those old one, ahhhh they don't make like that any more.
    
    
    Ken,
    
       Well now Ken you teach the "Achy Breaky" thats great, do you have
    alot who participate in this line dance?? I would think so as it is so
    popular. As far as what I'd like to know about the dance, basically I
    was wandering if anyone has seen this video yet and if it's any good
    (original) or if it's just some quick sceme someone cooked up for some
    $$$$$$$$$. As well the tune "I need this Job" I heard coming in to work
    tonight and don't remember the artists name, but as soon as I find out
    I'll be sure to let you know Ok. 
    
        I just heard George's song "He stopped loving her today", they
    didn't give the original time frame it first came, but they say that it
    was the #1 All Time Favorite for a long time and that this was a first.
    Bet you George made some bucks for that one..
    
    
        Virginia,  How are you doing?
    
    
                                      Rose..
      

      Gidday there Ken,
    
             I just heard the tune "Hey Mister I Need This Job" and it
    sounds better everytime I here it. Is sung by Shanandoa I think thats
    how you spell it although I'm not quite sure..
    
    
    Rose..
     

    Okay, I'm coming out of the closet on my C&W roots ... "He Stopped
    Loving Her Today" is *my* all time favorite C&W song. I think it's on a
    GJ Greatest Hits tape that I have. I'd have to look as it's from around
    1980. My liking George Jones is what made me (and probably many others)
    like Randy Travis... I grew up in the south on George, Merle Haggard,
    Hank Williams, Sr., The Gatlin Bros., etc.
    
    By the way, another noter pointed out about those southern Protestants
    not having a "plastic Jesus"...Louisiana is a very Catholic southern
    state, from the influence of the French.
    
    For my music today, though...I'm more apt to be listening to
    progressive rock and my latest favorite, Kings X ... but then I think
    they have a southern gospel influence.
    
    Suegene

>    I have never seen the tape so I realy don't know
>    how the original dance was done, I'm sure Billy didn't intend for it to
>    be done the way I have seen it.  

   I've managed never to hear "Achey Breakey" yet, despite having listened
   to country radio & cable a bit lately.  I can content myself with George
   Jones' "Aching, Breaking Heart" as an alternative, indefinitely.

   As I think was mentioned somewhere back in this topic, "Billy" didn't have
   anything to do with the dance & video, and admitted in one interview he
   couldn't even do the step.     - Jay

    Rose,
    	I'm fine, how are you doing?  I do belive your right about
    Shenandoa. (Who can spell that one?)  I haven't heard the song in a few
    days because I have broken the antenna off my radio and the reception
    is shot.  I must get a new one, I'm having withdrawls!!!!
    
    As far as Billy and the Achey Breakey dance, I belive I saw a live
    video of him attempting to do the dance.  I know one guy here that does
    that dance and most of the women either faint or have to leave the
    room.
    
    

    Virginia,
    
        Oh my god you can't listen to your radio, well that would do me in
    for sure. As far as the tune goes itself, it's a very good one and I
    think it should give then a nomination for an award.
    
        You say that most women either faint or leave the room when the
    dance Achey Breakey starts, in what context do you mean this. From the
    video that I saw on T.V. (Club Dance - Nashville Network) it looked
    like fun, but didn't look like it was very hard or fast.
    
        As an instructor, what do you think Ken..
    
    
    Rose.
    

    RE: .155
    
    Rose....I have to tell you the Achy Breaky dance is fairly difficult to
    teach..ONLY... beacause there is two turns in it....the first is a 3/4
    turn..in which you must step back on your right foot when finishing it
    and then another 1/4 turn after it.....Most people have difficulty
    doing the 3/4 turn..I have to admit when I first learned it I had a
    problem with it...
    
    When I teach it I really drill everyone on that particular part of the
    dance..and I always tell people to look "UP" when doing it....if they
    try and watch other people do it and they don't know what they are
    donig then it really messes them up big time!...
    
    Some of the less experienced instructors in this area don't emphasize
    that..it's too bad...
    
    WHen dancing if you look up and forward then you can keep your distance
    from the person(s) in front of you..notto mention balance...if you look
    down this tend to draw you closer to the person in front...
    
    It kinda makes me chuckle sometime when I teach a couples....I begin
    by get everyone set up in the nice circle on the outside part of the 
    dance floor...all are evenly spaced apart from each other etc....I tell
    them to look UP....well by the time the dance is finished there no more
    circle..everyone is bunched up on half the dance floor..and this is
    because they start looking down at watching the people in fron of
    them.......
    
    I have fun with my students too..I always threaten to bring in neck
    braces to force them to look up!...I also tell them...OK.If I see
    anyone looking down I tell them they will be kicked out of class!...
    OR If I know they are dancing and trying to watch me I make it a point
    to deliberately make a mistake and then stop etc....what really gets em
    is when I start a dance on the opposite foot....
    
    It's fun..and they have a good time...
    
    Does that answer your question Rose?
    
    Ken

    Rose,
    
    	I didn't mean the women left because of the dance itself, it was
    because of the way this ONE particular guy did it.  Something to do
    with "hip thrusts".  He issssssss goooooooood.  Too bad he is taken.
    
    
    Ken,
    	
    	You will have to send me a video of you line dances.  I want to
    learn from the masta.    :-)))
    
    Virginia

    
        Hi ya Ken,
    
            Well I would say that just about sumes it up, and yes actually
    thats exactly what I wanted to know. Sounds like the girls and I will
    definitelty have a good time learning these steps, as you do teaching
    them. 
    
        Virginia,
    
            Oh sorry about that I misunderstood you, now who is this guys
    and where do I find him hahahahaha :-)))))))) just kidding. 
    
           Have either of you heard the new tune "The Greatest Man I Never
    Knew" it's Reba's newest tune and from the sounds of it, it should hit
    her up for a nomination. There was a full write up in the local paper
    here about it last night. I've only heard it a few times myself but do
    like it, from what I hear it's a big seller here.
    
    
    Rose..
    

    How do I read note 105.43?  It's hidden and I want to read it, Help!!
    
    John..

    Rose,
    
    I have heard Reba's new song.  The local radio station does a new song
    challange every night and her song was #1 for a few weeks.  The guy
    that does the great Achey Breaky is Jason and I think he is still
    taken.  He is a real nice guy, want me to set you up with him????
    
    John,
    
    I think the hidden notes are being reviewed by the moderator or
    something like that.  It is up to them to when it will be able to be
    reviewed.  .43 is kind of an old one, I dont know why it would be
    hidden.
    
    Virginia

    Mod here...
    
    Saw the mention of .43, so I went back and checked it out.
    
    I set notes hidden when they "violate" some notes file policy (as that
    one did). Usually, I "hide" notes rather than delete them. The reason
    is, the author of a hidden note can still access it (as can someone
    with moderator privilege). Usually, there is only a small portion of
    the note that is in question, so if the note is still available to the
    author, they can extract the note, edit the offending content, and repost
    it. This saves re-typing the whole note.
    
    So there ya have it...
    
    Brian
    MUSIC Mod Short Timer

    Thanks mister Mod.  It's good to see the Mods keep an eye on us noters.

    
        Ok Folks,
    
            It's time for you to really put your thinking caps on OK.
    
           My parents (mother and stepfather) are ten years married and would 
    like to renew their wedding vows. My brother and I will be standing up for
    them, as we had in thier wedding, we are very close to the two of them,
    and would like to have some songs picked out. These would only be
    danced by the wedding party. So far this is what we've come up with,
    let me know if you have any ideas.
    
    "Could I Have This Dance(for the rest of my life) Mother and Stepfather
    "Through The Years"!!!                            Mother and Stepfather
    "Oohhh.... Mama Don't Forget To Pray For Me"??    Son and Mother
    "Jesus and Mama Always Loved Me"??                Son and Mother
    "Dance Little Jean"??	 		   Step-daughter and Stepfather
    "Daddy's Hands"??				   Step-daughter and Stepfather
    ""????????????			           Brother and Sister
    ""????????????				   Brother and Sister   
    
    
       As you can see I think we've come up with some pretty good idea's,
    but the only one were really sure about is "Through The Years" (Kenny
    Rogers) for our parents. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, the
    only music they listen to is country, and thier in mid 50's.
    
    
    Thanks Again 
    
    Rose..
    
           

    Gee Rose, 
    
    I think you did pretty dern good all by yourself.  I'm sorry but I
    can't offer any suggestions.  I think if you stay along the same lines
    you should do great.  I wish your parents all the best.
    
    
    Virginia
    
    ps.  This is the Clint Black concert weekend!!!!!

    Where are you today???
    
    Rose, The concert was great.  I have heard it is impossible to get a
    bad seat at Irvine Meadows, and it's true!  Little Texas had the place
    rocking and even did "Great Balls Of Fire" to a screaming house.  I was
    quite impressed.  Who cares how they did on Star Search!
    
    Arron Tippin was all I expected, he did all his popular hits and even
    did a slow on sitting on the edge of the stage.  The  crowd was pretty
    calm but did make quite a noise when he started "Ain't nothing wrong
    with my radio".
    
    Clint Black disappointed us all.  He came out with a black leather
    jacket and no hat!  After a few songs he took off the jacket to show us
    he has been working out.  Not a bad begining, but please get a tan. 
    Clint finished the set and the lights went out.  We knew he would be
    back to do a few more.  When the lights came on, there was the hat!  We
    all lost it and started screaming.  He did 4 or so more songs and
    finaly left.  The whole thing would have been a great dissappointment
    is he had kept that hat hidden away for the whole show.
    
    Tonight is Chris LaDoux, ain't I just the busy bee?!!!
    
    
    Virginia

    I'm baaaack.
    
    
    Last night was Chris LaDoux.  The Cowboy Boogie was packed 200 over
    capacity.  The show was great.  Chris did all his popular hits and the
    new one done with Garth Brooks.  Unfortunatly, Garth didn't show.  The
    show lasted about 90 minutes and was rocking the whole time.  To think,
    I wasent going to go.
    
    Next stop, George Strait on October 10th.
    
    
    Virginia

    Right on Virginia,
    
           I haven't been able to access the music file for at least three
    days (can you believe it was driving me nuts).
    
           Sounds like you had a great time at the Aaron Tippin, Clint
    Black concert, glad to here it. I can't imagine Clint being on stag
    without his hat, but it's good to know that he returned with it, as
    well as some good tunes. Chris Ladoux I don't think I've heard of this 
    guy yet, any songs off the top of your head to identify if I've heard
    him or not??....
    
           
    
    Rose

    Rose,
    
    I was getting worried about you.  I had to ask Ken where the MUSIC
    notesfile went.  We are all here and that is what is important.
    
    Chris LaDoux is a rodeo star turn story teller, so to speak.  Most of
    his music revolves around the rodeo and the people involved in it.  If
    you aren't in rodeo, you probably never heard of him.  His music isn't
    played on the radio.  He used to only play at rodeos but now he has a
    song out with Garth Brooks called "What ya gonna do with a cowboy".
    
    Chris LaDoux's music used to only be available through the mail from
    his lable which I don't belive was one of the big ones.  Now his music
    is on CDs and I think some of the larger music stores carry the CDs. 
    His music is almost an aquired tast unless you belive in the "olden
    days"  of the cattle drives and dusty little towns.  I have a few of
    his CDs if you would like to listen to them.  Let me know.
    
    See ya on the range,
    
    
    Virginia

    Virginia,
    
           How's it going???  I do believe I've heard this tune, but cant be
    quite sure. As far as the oldie's well I like a lot of the oldie's,
    rodeo well all depends.
    
           I wanted to thank you for the Best Wishes message for my parents
    and I'm glad to see you like our choices so far (proves were on the
    right track anyway). 
    
          Gotta Go for now very busy night..
    
    Rose..
    

     OH OH Where did everybody go,
    
           Am I all alone this week?? Say Virginia how was George Strait
    concert??  I hope you enjoyed it.
    
    
      Well talk to you all soon ok...
    
    
    Rose..

  I notice a 3-CD boxed set is due out 26-Oct for Tammy Wynette.  Titled
  "Tears of Fire: The 25th Anniversary Collection".  It includes some of the
  duets with George Jones.
  
  I was interested that when politicians, spouses, and political pundits
  were teeing off on Wynette (based on "Stand By Your Man" -- kind of like
  teeing off on Louis Armstrong for "Hello Dolly"), only the likes of the
  Boston Phoenix and the Village Voice [music dept. only] were hip enough to
  stand up for her.  It must have been tough being talented and female in
  country culture in the 60s -- I wonder if the 90s crop of up & coming
  female country stars appreciate her?    - Jay

    
    
    	Rose,
    
    	Sorry, Ken has been keeping me busy off-line.  The George Strait
    concert isn't untill the 10th  of October.  I will have a full report
    when I finaly get there.  The CMA awards are tomarrow night.  Ken and I
    have been discussing who will win what.  Do you have any favorites?  
    
    	Actually, anyone out there in notes land?  
    
    	I will try to post the results tomarrow if you want them.
    
    
    Virginia

    
    
        Jay,
    
           Hi there so you're a big Tammy Wynette fan, well join the club.
    I've been listening to Tammy since I was a kid, used to love alot of
    her hits with George Jones some that come to mind are "Golden Ring" and
    "The Weather Good In Southern California". Then there were her hits she
    recorded without George "Apartment #9" and "Cowboys Don't Shoot
    Straight Like They Used Too" and Oh god I could go on all night. I
    do remember a song that Tammy sang in a duet with (????) a long time
    ago and it just cuts through me everytime I here it, "My Elusive
    Dreams" she has such a soft voice and then comes in so strong during
    the chorus lines. I saw Tammy in Concert here about 10 years ago and
    opening for her was T.G. Sheppard, both put on an excellant concert,
    however I'd have to say thats Tammy's so awesome. I would love to go
    see her again.
    
    
    Rose..
    
    

    
       Virginia,
    
            Hi ya,
    
                 Well now let me see, I will be tuning into the CMA awards
    tonight as well, I want to see if Reba receives an award for one of the
    tunes off her new Cd. A friend of mine who basically listens to Rock
    and thats it heard me hummin the tune "Is There Life Out There" and
    asked me who sings it, she's now seen the Video and thinks that it's
    great. As well thinks it's very positive in showing people it's never
    to late to go back and try again. I also heard that Rebe will host the
    show this year again (Right On) as well as be up for 4 nominations.
    
                 As far as the rest, Well there are so many choices and so
    many videos/bands I don't know if I've heard yet, So I'm going to wait
    till tonight to see. Hopefully I won't sleep in and miss it.
    
                Oh and by the way Oct/10/92 George Strait, hope you enjoy
    it, and yes well definitely expect an update from you..
    
    
    
    Talk Atcha...
    
    Rose..
     

    
          Gidday All,
    
              Well guess what folks can you believe it Vince Gill won an
    award for YES!! YES!!  "I Still Believe In You" and he sang the hit as
    well, I was with out a doubt impressed. Yes the CMA Awards put on a
    pretty good show this year, Billy Ray Cyrus played his hit "Achy Breaky
    Heart" and won an award for it as well. And Reba sang "The Greatest Man
    I Never Knew" it sounded beautiful, and the stag was a perfect setting
    with a white piano, sitting on a black platform and the floor all
    covered in smoke, very nice indeed. Garth Brooke's won Entertainer of
    the year and he and his wife together excepted the award, it was an
    emotional moment for the two of them, he also had some pretty powerful
    words "Musicians Come and go, But Family Is Forever". As well Wynonna
    Judd was in the spotlight as well, she sang "No One Else On Earth Was
    Ever Worth It" there was talk about an emotional moment with her and
    her mom, but I didn't see it. 
    
       All in all it was really good,,, hope everyone else got as much
    enjoyment out of it as I did. 
    
    
    Rose..

    I didn't watch the entire CMA awards show, but I did tape it.  I look
    forward to watching it tonight. I did see Wynonna do "No One Else
    on Earth."  I couldn't help notice her outfit. She looked like an
    overstuffed leather couch.  
    I was glad to see Vince Gill get recognized.  He really is a talent.
    
    I think Garth is getting tired of receiving awards. He seemed stale
    as he accepted an award for "Roping the Wind."
    
    Brooks and Dunn won best Duo, and rightfully so. I love their stuff.
    They seem like they're having fun doing what they do best.
    
    Clint looks better in a hat...but I guess his wife has more say than I
    do. 8)
    
    Kath

  I had the awards show turned on though, not being a fan of awards shows,
  it was sort of background for other things happening.  Two things I perked
  up for...
  
  - Mary Chapin-Carpenter singing a verse of "I Feel Lucky" seated between
    Dwight Yoakam and Lyle Lovett.  Yes, Lyle's hand was "upon her thigh".

  - George Jones singing "Not Ready for Your Rockin' Chair", but his voice
    unfortunately sounding a little like he was (IMO).  It's a non-issue,
    given his 3 decades worth of great singing ('55-'85), but I hope younger
    country fans who see him on awards shows and Austin City Limits realize
    there's a legitimate reason he's in a hall of fame.

  Kind of unfortunate that Mark O'Connor's mike was off during the
  performance w/ Delbert McClinton et al. that was a prelude to announcing
  him as Musician of the year.   - Jay

    Oh thank you so much.  
    
    I missed the award show and My VCR decided to take a vacation so I
    missed everything.  I do have a friend who taped it and I will get a
    copy eventually.  From what I have read, it went pretty much like I
    thought it would.
    
    Garth Brooks had done an interview on TNN on Tuesday.  He said if his
    music interfered with his wife and new baby, he would retire for a
    while.  I wish I could find a man who belived in "Family" more than the
    rest of the trivial things in life.
    
    Clint Black didn't wear his hat?!!  I am going to shoot that woman.  I
    understand it is actually his mother-in-law that decided he needed to
    loose the hat.  What does she know!
    
    I'm upset because I missed the show but the info in here is great.
    
    
    Virginia

re: .177

  - Mary Chapin-Carpenter singing a verse of "I Feel Lucky" seated between
    Dwight Yoakam and Lyle Lovett.  Yes, Lyle's hand was "upon her thigh".

Actually, it was Marty Stuart "playing the part" of Dwight Yoakam (sp?),
although Lyle Lovett actually was himself.

They both seemed to be enjoying themselves.

-Hal

> Actually, it was Marty Stuart "playing the part" of Dwight Yoakam (sp?),
> although Lyle Lovett actually was himself.

  Thanks for the correction.  I saw the Yoakam-esque hat, and a quick
  glimpse of a face...  Kind of a double sight-gag then, also a play on
  Marty Stuart's "no hats" thing?    - Jay

    Could someone elaborate on 'no hats'?

    "No hats" I guess is just intended as a backlash to the trned for all
    these guys wearing cowboy hats (Strait, Van Shelton, Black, etc.).  How
    about his "new country" thing?  Ha ha ha .... what the hell is new
    about it?  
    
    						Baba Ram

    Reprinted without permission from The Orange County Register.
    
    The Associated Press
    
    	NASHVILLE, Tenn.-"Garth Brooks was voted Entertainer of the Year
    and Vince Gill won two honors Wednesday night at the 26th annual
    Country Music Association awards show.
    	Brooks' 9 million-selling "Ropin' the Wind," which has been No. 1
    on both the pop and country charts, also won best-album honors to give
    him two major awards during the nationally televised presentations at
    the Grand Ole Opry House.
    	"One thing I have learned from this past year is music and artists
    are going to come and go, but it's family.  That's what it's all
    about," said Brooks, winning top entertainer for the second straight
    year.  Brooks' wife, Sandy, gae birth to their first child, a daughter,
    in the summer.
    	Gill, who decided to pursue a singing career instead of playing pro
    golf, was voted top male vocalist for the second straight year.  He
    also won a songwriter's award for co-writing his hit "Look at Us" with
    Max D. Barnes.
    	"Now I know how Michael Jordan feels to repeat," Gill said in
    accepting the award as best male vocalist, referring to the Chicago
    Bulls' basketball star who led his team to two straight NBA titles.
    	Mary-Chapin Carpenter won Feamale Vocalist of the Year, her first
    CMA award, but said her voice has never impressed her.
    	"I've never been that fond of my singing.  It's the others that
    inspired me," said Carpenter, who won a Grammy Award earlier this year.
    	Billy Ray Cyrus' bouncy "Achy Breaky Heart," which inspired a new
    dance and launched Cyrus from an unknown to star status, won Single of
    the Year.
    	"I believed in the song the first time I heard it," Cyrus said
    backstage after receiving a bulletshaped trophy.  "It hit me like a hit
    record should."
    	The new honky-tonk duet Brooks & Dunn were voted Duo of the Year,
    breaking a four-year hold on the award by the mother-daughter act the
    Judds, who are no longer performing together.
    	Fiddler Mark O'Conner was named best musician and Diamond Rio was
    chosen best group.
    	Alan Hackson's "Midnight in Montgomery" was chosen No. 1 music
    video over Cyrus' "Achy Breaky Heart" and three others.  Travis Tritt
    and Marty Stuart won Voacal Event of the Year for their rollicking "No
    Hats" concert tour, and Suzy Bogguss was voted the Horizon Award for
    most promise.
    	George Jones capped off a 40-year career when he was chosen for the
    Country Music Hall of Fame.
    	"The only thing I can say is that country music has been awful good
    to me throughout a whole bunch of years," he said after receiving a
    prolonged standing ovation.
    	Frances Preston, a music publishing executive, was voted into the
    hall as a non-performer.
    	Reba McEntire and Gill were co-hosts of the show - traditionally
    one of the most-watched awards programs on television."
    
    
    There is you answer to "No Hats".  It was the tour that Trivis Tritt
    and Marty Stuart have done this year.  I never saw it but have heard
    from a few people who did and it deserves the award given it.
    
    Rose, I hope that answers you question about what George Jones said. 
    I'm sure he said more but that was what was important.
    
    See ya all
    
    Virginia

  RE:  "No hats"
  
  Yes, as the last 2 replies say, it was a slogan, it was a Stuart/Tritt
  tour -- though probably it started out as a simple lyric from Stuart's
  latest album.
  
  Making a big deal about "No Hats" does seem a little ridiculous to me;
  wish it had stayed a simple lyric.

  More of what George Jones said:  He credited his (latest) wife with saving
  his life; and said that though he'd won lots of awards over the years, the
  hall of fame "makes my year, makes my career, makes my life" or words to
  that effect.  In short, he was mildly pleased.   - Jay

  I picked up an issue of "Country Music" magazine, after noticing old
  friends Peter Guralnick and John Morthland on the editorial staff...
  
  Eleven of their staff each listed "best country albums of the last 20
  years";  a rough idea of the consensus would go something like this:
  
MARY-CHAPIN CARPENTER: State of the Heart
CARLENE CARTER: I Fell in Love
JOHNNY CASH: Silver  (also, Rockabilly Blues)
JACK CLEMENT: All I Want to Do In Life
STEVE EARLE: Guitar Town
JOE ELY: Honky Tonk Masquerade
MERLE HAGGARD: Serving 190 Proof
EMMYLOU HARRIS: Blue Kentucky Girl, Pieces of the Sky
HARRIS, PARTON, & RONSTADT: Trio
WAYLON JENNINGS: Honky Tonk Heroes, Dreaming My Dreams
GEORGE JONES: I Am What I Am  (also, Alone Again)
THE JUDDS: Why Not Me  (also, The Judds)
SHELBY LYNNE: Tough All Over
WILLIE NELSON: Red Headed Stranger, Phases and Stages
DOLLY PARTON: My Tennessee Mountain Home  (also, Best of Dolly)
RICKY SKAGGS: Waitin' for the Sun to Shine  (also, Country Boy)
GARY STEWART: Out of Hand
RANDY TRAVIS: Storms of Life
HANK WILLIAMS, JR.: & Friends  (also, Family Tradition)
DWIGHT YOAKAM: Guitars, Cadillacs, Etc.

  Other people mentioned frequently: John Anderson, Garth Brooks (No
    Fences), Rosanne Cash (7 Year Ache, King's Record Shop), Rodney Crowell,
    Lefty Frizzell, Vince Gill, Jimmie Dale Gilmore (After Awhile), Nanci
    Griffith, Highway 101 (Highway 101), Alan Jackson (Don't Rock the
    Jukebox), Jennings/Nelson/Colter/Glaser (Wanted: The Outlaws), Lyle
    Lovett (Lyle Lovett), Loretta Lynn (20 Greatest Hits), Delbert McClinton
    (Victim of Life's Circumstances), Reba McEntire (My Kind of Country),
    Bill Monroe, Jimmy Murphy (Electricity), Nitty Gritty Dirt Band (Will
    the Circle Be Unbroken), John Prine, George Strait, Marty Stuart.
- Jay

    
    I see in the paper today that Patty Loveless..One of my favorITE
    singers has cancelled 20 concerts this fall becasue she is having
    surgery on a leaky blook vessel on a vocal cord.
    
    The paper says she is going to be back on tour by the end of the year..
    surgery is supposed to happen within two weeks..
    
    Ken
    

    Ken,
    
    	Where are these shows?  I was planning on seeing her if she ever
    made it out here.
    
    	I read an article on Trisha Yearwood.  It seems she a Garth Brooks
    were both studio singers at the same time.  That article went on to say
    what improvements and changes are being made to promote Trisha to the
    fullest this year.  She has her own perfume and is changing her style a
    bit.  I have never payed much attention to her career but now I
    certainly will.
    
    	This is the George STrait/Holly Dunn concert weekend.  I will have
    a full report on Monday.
    
    Virginia

And don't miss the new perfumes from

	Lefty Frizzell (Lefty!)
	Bob Wills (Texas Playboy) 
	and David Allan Coe (Rhinestone Outlaw).

    Are you serious?!!!

    This isn't realy music but it is related.
    
    
    I saw the add on TV last night for George Strait's new movie, "Pure
    Country".  I can't wait for it to hit the theater.  Can you imagine all
    the good looking cowboys who will be there to see it.  I will be there
    to keep an eye on them.
    
    Virginia

  Last night I fell asleep before George Strait's segment of the Leno show.
  
  Night before, I fell asleep before Lucinda Williams' turn on the Letterman
  show.
  
  So - were either of them any good?    - Jay

    Re: .192
    
    Better start drinking more coffee, Jay  8^)  8^)
    
    						Brian

>     Better start drinking more coffee, Jay  8^)  8^)
    
  That, or less wine...     J

    Re: .191
    
    	D,
    
    	You betcha.  I love dem Cowboys in dem Wranglers.  Used to be my
    job, ya know.  I think the drive to Farmer's Market would be a bit much
    for me seeing as how I live in So. California but if you would like to
    send a picture or two, I'de be glad to give my professional oppion.
    
    Virginia.
    
    

  Browsing through boxed sets at Tower Records, I stumbled on a Columbia
  2-CD set of Bill Monroe.  It's the complete 1945-1949 recordings, with
  Flatt, Scruggs, and fiddler Chubby Wise.  *Twelve dollars*.
  
  The only explanation I can give for not grabbing it is, I literally
  couldn't believe my eyes.  I had to scribble down some cuts, then go home
  and check it out.
  
  I think it's complete, with a lot of previously unreleased cuts, which may
  be excesssive for some listeners.  Then again, it also has the cuts folks
  think of as defining bluegrass for all time, as someone put it.  - Jay

  P.S. I bought George Jones "I Am What I Am" and Jimmie Dale Gilmore "After
       Awhile" based on those critics recommendations I posted earlier --
       enjoying both a lot.  Gilmore's interesting because he's literary and
       country.  He won't use "ain't" in a verse like the following:
       
    "My love, my love has gone away,
    My love, my love, what can I say?
    But she would never see
    that this world's just not real to me
    And tonight, I think I'm gonna go downtown."
      -JDG, "Tonight I Think I'm Gonna Go Downtown"
      
      I'll bet it killed him to have to go with "gonna"...  8)

    Has anyone seen "Pure Country" yet?  I haven't had the chance to go yet
    and I want know if I should wait untill the video comes out.
    
    Thanks,
    
    VirginiaX

>   <<< Note 105.191 by GROOVE::DADDIECO "That's Just The Way It Is ....." >>>
>                           -< Got a Deal for YOU!!! >-

>    So Virginia - you want good looking cowboys do you???? Well get your 
>    cowgirl-self to the Farmer's Market in Waltham off Moody Street on 
>    October 24th 1-3PM and check out the boys in the Blackstone River Band.
    
>    We're extremely friendly - and you can pick up your vegies whilst
>    listening to some "new-country" music.
 
Caught these cowboys this weekend in Waltham.  For my money though the
cowgirl was the best looking.  They played such long sets that I didn't get
a chance to say hello.  

    I'm glad for your sake the cow`girl' was good looking.  I'm still
    waiting for my picture to get a good look at the cow`men'.
    
    
    Virginia
    
    ps.  Did I mention I have connections at a few of the local bars here. 
    Just a thought, if you are ever in the mood to play under the westcoast
    sun.
    
    

>    waiting for my picture to get a good look at the cow`men'.
    
 
They said they were all 21, but that they'd lived hard lives.
   
    

    
    
    
    Sounds like an excuse to me.
    
    

    Could someone please tell me how the stage will be setup for Garth
    Brooks tomorrow night at the Centrum?  End or center and if its end
    stage, which end?
    
    Thanks in advance for any info,
    Joyce

    Hi Joyce,
    
    I've seen a couple of shows at the Centrum; the stage has always been
    set up at one end, facing the long direction of the hall.  As to
    *which* end, I lose my orientation with the north pole once I'm inside.
    
    Be sure and let us know how the show was.  If they introduce the band,
    could you note who the pedal steel player is?
    
    Thanks,
    John
    
    PS - Hope you have a good time!

Usually the stage is set up opposite the Galleria end.  I don't know a
better way to describe it.  Section 201 is straight back from the stage on
the opposite end.  Section 220 is directly behind the stage.

I have seen one show where the stage was in the round (in the middle of the
floor).

Tim

    I won't be attending - a non-noting friend will be going.  Frankly at
    this point she doesn't care where the seats are.
    
    I'll give you an update when I get it.
    
    Joyce

    Ok all you experts.................
    
    Who sings "Lukenbock Texas"?  Ok, I know it isn't spelled right but you
    can figure out what it is.  I need to know who sings it and what
    tape/cd I would be on.  Thank yall so much.
    
    
    Virginia

    
    As and ye shall receive!
    
    RE: .207
    
    I believed it's Walyon Jennings.
    
    

 Waylon Jennings, with some help from Willie Nelson.






 Jim who can't remember the name of the album

    Excuse me, How could it be Waylon when one line is ........
    
    Willie, Waylon and the boys.  Why would he sing about himself like
    that?
    
    Now I could be wrong.
    
    Virginia

    Re:last
    
    As Charlie Daniels sings...
    
    "And all the good people down in Tennessee
     are diggin' Bare Foot Jerry and the C.D.B."
    
    C.D.B. is the Charlie Daniels Band...he's singing about himself.
    It ain't that unusual.
    
    Gary

Bo Diddley buy baby diamond ring

    
    Anyone catch Reba's new video on TNN last night ? I think the name of
    the tune is Take It Back.  The video is set in a courthouse where Reba
    is the defendant, pretty entertaining I thought.  The song is an
    uptempo tune and Reba sounds great in it.  She said she likes to think
    of the tune as her signature like Aretha's Respect.  She has a new
    album due out in December just in time for Xmas.  She said it's a  
    more uptempo album than For Your Broken Heart, but that there's still
    a few slower tunes.  She looked great and sounds great in the new 
    video.   
    
    Larry
    
    

    Jerry Lee Lewis is self-obsessed, particularly in the third person:
    "The Killer knows it", "Jerry Lee's rockin' now"...
    

    Thanks everyone.  I know Waylon does tend to sing about himself.
    
    I know I can always rely on you people to get me the right answers.
    
    I didn't catch Reba's new video.  I don't get home in time for the
    video show on TNN.  The is a club here that plays the videos along with
    the dancing so maybe I'll go tonight and see if they have it.
    
    Virginia

  For fans of Guy Clark:  There's a new album on Asylum, "Boats to Build".
  See the Guy Clark topic (733.13) in COOKIE::FOLK_MUSIC for more
  information (& a discography).  - Jay

    Have any of you country fans seen Pure Country yet?  I had been putting
    off seeing it because not many singers in any field can act.  I was
    impressed.  George did a great job.  He did seem very calm through
    everything.  I don't know if that was the way his charcter was to be
    portrayed or if he just doesn't have alot of emotional range in acting
    yet.  I liked it and would like other's comments on the movie.  
    
    Virginia

    	I should have entered this sooner.
    
    	The guitar that Strait uses in the movie was hand-made by
    	the son of some friends of mine. I just talked to Jessie
    	(the mom) the other day on the phone. She subsequently
    	sent me a short note with a newspaper clipping about her
    	son Mark and the guitar he gave to George Strait.
    
    	If I can find the article at home I'll bring it in and post
    	it here.
    
    	Scott

  Cross-posted from AKOFIN::AFTER_HOURS...

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Note 23.91                          B.B. King                           91 of 91
VERGA::CLARK                                         12 lines  20-NOV-1992 19:28
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  I understand, on the back of the new BB King box, King lists Jimmie
  Rodgers ("the old Jimmie Rodgers, the white guy") as one of his 5 biggest
  influences (T-Bone Walker, Lonnie Johnson, Charlie Christian, Django
  Reinhardt, & Rodgers).
  
  That's Jimmie "Singing Brakeman" Rodgers, "father of country music", who
  recorded with the Carter Family and Louis Armstrong back in the 20s.  BB's
  aunt or grandmother or something would buy him Jimmie Rodgers records.
  
  I get a kick out of this, because Howlin' Wolf also credited Jimmie
  Rodgers; said he developed his howl trying to imitate the Rodgers yodel.
    - Jay

    Country music legend Roy Acuff died today of congestive heart failure. 
    He was 89 years old.  
    
    							Brian

    No.
    
    I haven't been watching TNN or regular television lately and probably
    missed it on the news.  Is there any more information, Brian?
    
    I would be interested in the aritcle about your friend and George.  I
    have always been a fan of George Strait and have followed his career
    since I got into country music (1985).
    
    Virginia

    
    
    I was talking to guy las night who is a reliable source of information
    and he told me that Don Law (who is a major music promotor in the
    Boston Area) signed a contract yesterday with someone to begin a
    Country Music "RADIO" station out of the Boston area!
    
    All I can say is that it's about time!
    
    One other tidbit of infor is that the group A SLEEP AT THE WHEEL is
    supposed to be coming to Ovations Nite CLub, Holiday Inn in Peabody
    sometime in February...Tickets are only going to be $10 each!
    
    

Yay!  I am so so sick of hardly picking up WOKQ and having to listen
to all their commercials!  I do get WCTK and WCAV on my way to the
Cape on the weekends. I like WCTK, but it's out of Providence
RI and I can only pick it up if I am south of Upton MA.

Good News Ken!  

Kath

    
    For those of you who might care, Reba M.'s new CD is supposed to
    be released on December 15th according to Strawberry's.
    
    Larry
    

    
    There are two a C&W stations other than WOKQ... 98.1FM and 105.3FM.  
    You can pick both of them up within a reasonable distance of the of
    the 495/93 interchange.
    
    Twang it!
    
    Tim_yer_MUSIC_Mod
    
                                     

    Perhaps a Boston based country station isn't profitable?  WBOS went
    country in about 1981 and lost their shirt.
    
    Mark.

    
    Yup, I remember when WBOS tried a country stint...  it was bad timing.
    
    Today there are a number of C&W artists that cross over into the pop 
    space.  People hear one tune, like it, and by the album.  Before they
    know it, their C&W fans.
    
    Tim
    

    
    RE:.226
    
    True...WBOS did make a go at it..but they were a bunch of idiots
    and they had a losuy marketing/sales group.
    
    Like someone mentioned earlier it was bad timing..Country music is HOT
    in this area right now....at least on the dancing end of it...I'm a
    teacher and I am watching the crowds grow incredible these days.
    
    

    Re: last few
    
    Boston has long had a lousy country audience.  I remember when E.M.
    Loew's in Worcester ran it's country shows in the early eighties, most
    of the audience came from Connecticut, Vermont and New Hampshire!
    
    Not only is there no country radio, the club scene has always been weak
    (yeah, some clubs are opening up this year, wait two years and see how
    many fold up) as well.  There still is no large country club in Boston
    (not convinced that Silverado really counts).  I hear that the Blue
    Star Lounge up in Saugus has been doing "oldies" as well as country
    recently.  Sheesh. 
    
    WBOS tried to ride the last wave of "country crossover" and failed. 
    Worcester's AM country station dwindled in the mid eighties and good
    riddance I say, these stations were as bad as the mainstream rock
    stations with their loudmouth DJs and stupid commercials.
    
    Gee, now that I got that out of my system....8^)  8^)
    
    Actually, I'd like to see the country scene finally establish itself in
    MA, but I have no great hopes.
    
    							Brian
    
    P.S. Anybody else see that news item about the child with CP that the
    doctors said would never walk, but got up and pranced around to the
    "Achey Breaky Heart" video?  Oy vey....

    
    Remember the Hillbilly Ranch? That was a main stay of John Lincoln
    Wright and the Sour Mash Boys for many years.
    
    It was razed for the new transportation building.
    
    Don't know what impact it had, if any, on the Boston country scene.
    
    (The Hillbilly Ranch, that is, not the transportation building.)
    
    BD

    The impact it had was to kill the last club in Boston that featured
    country music, which automatically meant that country was not a
    mainstream Boston music scene anymore.
    
    Some more good news: the Adelphia Lounge in Dorchester is reopening,
    featuring country music as before.
    
    Anyone been to Silverado (the old Roxy) in Boston?  What's it like?

    RE: .230
    RE: There still is no large country club in Boston
        (not convinced that Silverado really counts).  I hear that the Blue
        Star Lounge up in Saugus has been doing "oldies" as well as country
        recently.  Sheesh.
    
    True...but I have been working closely with the guy who runs the Blue
    Star and he has been trying to draw a crowd to the WOnderland Ball Room
    on Thursday nights....HUGE dance floor.....I dance at a lot of places
    in the Boston Area and "everyone" complains about the crowded dance
    floors etc..and they could be in dance floor heaven if they "just
    tried" the wonderland....andway..
    
    RE: :Oldies" at the Blue star....That's possible on Kareokee night..but
    other than that NOT!
    
    
    RE: .232
                             
    I have gone to Silverado's several times...I like it...I know the
    gay/lesbian community is frequenting the place...I personally don;t
    have a problem with it but I know some people that do!..
    
    Anyway...It's funny to see ALL he new clubs hopping on the country
    music band wagnon...unfortunately there aren't enough people to fill
    them and therefore I feel many of them will not last long...
    
    There is a HUGE place opening up in Lowell this Spring....The White
    Buffalo....when I get more data on it I will enter it here..
    
    Ken
    
    

    
    
    Ok all you line dancing nuts, here is your chance.
    
    I need a list of line dance songs with artists names and what CD they
    come from.  Also, what line dances can be done to these songs.  They
    can be rock songs also.  I know we line dance to a couple of rock and
    rap songs at the bar I go to.
    
    And kids..................Don't make a debate out of this.
    
    Virginia

    
    
                             Honky-Tonk Women!
    
    

    
    
    Great!  I have that one, thanks.  I can't believe no one out there has
    any ideas.  I realy need some for the 10 step.
    
    V

    
    Ms. Virginia..
    
    I sent you a comprehensive list a loooooong time ago!....
    
    Thanks for askin!
    
    The TEACHER

    
    
    	Kennith Dear,
    
    q	I have long since lost that information.   Would you care to send
    it again?
    
    	Need some Vicks<?
    
    V

    
    
    My ex used to start 10 steppin' whenever I put Stevie Ray up on the CD
    player - maybe there's something in there you can use?
    
    

    
    
    	Thanks for the info.  I'll check it out.
    
    Virginia

    Gidday All,
    
       How's it going?? Hey Virginia and Ken whats new. I've just come back
    to night shift and when catching up on this file noticed that I've
    missed alot of time in here, but I'm back in full force again and ready
    to get back into the swing of things. I've really missed this file a
    lot.
    
      Will write tonight OK..
    
    
    Rose..
    

    
    
    For those of you in the immdediate Boston area that have longed for a
    country music station with some power to broadcast well your dreams
    might come true....soon!
    
    A very reliable source has told me that WVBF radio (105.7) is going to
    be playing country music..possible starting Friday (2/12/93).....
    
    Also it was mentioned that WCDJ, the Jazz station, might also be slated
    to convert to playing country music.
    
    I know I have longed for this day because where I live I am just out of
    range to get the New Hampshire (WOKQ) and Rhode Island station (WCTK)
    ...I willdefinately tune it WVBF in the morning to see if it, in fact, 
    will be playing country music!
    

    I picked up WCLB (formerly WVBF) and it was indeed country!
    I listened this morning on my way to work and was disappointed
    that I didn't hear one song during the entire commute!  Lauren (sp?)
    and Wally were gabbing up a storm, which is the same reason I hate
    'OKQ in the morning too.  Too much talk, not enough music.  
    
    I'll give it more chances this week. I hope it turns out to be a
    good station.  
    
    Kath

    I'm tuned into WCLB right now.  Yeah, it's the usual country radio
    thing, almost too pop for me to listen to.  Well, I suppose I'll give
    it a try for a few weeks and see how it wears.
    
    							Brian

    
    I received Reba's new album "It's Your Call" recently as a gift.
    
    I'm a real big fan of Reba's, but I have to say I was really 
    disappointed with this album.  She seems to have gotten into a
    real rut with her healing thing.  There's only one song on the 
    whole album that's uptempo, everything else is ballads.  Basically,
    her last album was the same format.  I just find it's getting boring
    and I'm waiting to here her sing some fun tunes.  I sure hope this
    is the end of her healing process (as she puts it), it's getting old
    to me.
    
    Lv

    Thanks!
    
    I was thinking of getting that CD this weekend.  I think not now.  It's
    too bad she has to stick to her healing still.  I have never lost
    anyone close to me like she has but life does go on.  Maybe we should
    invite her to a party with all us.  That would get her out of that rut.
    
    It was a joke, I'm sure you all understand that.
    
    V

     Reba's in a Rut,
    
       I have heard her (I Guess) recent tune "The Heart Won't Lie" sung
    with Vince Gille, and have seen the video. I think I would be tempted
    to buy this Cd as I've always liked Reba's ballads. I've seen the video
    for "Take it Back" and I think it's pretty good, however must admit
    that I don't like it as much as alot of her other tempo'd tunes.
    
    Hi there Virginia...
    
    Rose..
    

    
    Don't get me wrong, I  still like the album, it's just that I like to
    hear Reba do some uptempo stuff too.  Take it back is the only uptempo
    tune on the album, and it typifies her bluesy ability which I really 
    like.  I want to hear more of it !  I think For My Broken Heart was 
    a better album, but I haven't really listened to the new one that many
    times.  There is one tune I really like called Baby's Gone Blues. 
    
    I guess my real disappointment comes from the fact she only did the 
    one uptempo tune, I was hoping for more.  Basically, I don't think
    Reba could do a bad album. 
    
    Larry
    

    Well well well.  Rose you are still with us.  What about all that Email
    I sent? :-)  Just joking.  Nice to see(read) you again.
    
    About Reba.  I agree with Larry, I don't think she could do a *bad*
    album but I don't like to listen to CD's that are all down beat songs. 
    She has done *much* better in the past.  I still think having her out
    to a party is a good Idea.
    
    Virginia
    
    What about that ticket, Ken!
    
    

    Gidday there,
    
       Yes Virginia, it's me and I'm back.
    
       I do agree with both you and Larry, I don't think I've seen a bad
    album from reba yet. And yes she has done better in past albums, I
    guess I'm just one of those ballads kind of people.
    
    Rose..
    

    Couple of quick questions folks,
    
    
        Has anyone seen the movie yet "Pure Country" with George Strait, I
    noticed that you were asking about it Virginia, if you've seen it what
    did you think. I've listened to the tune "I Cross My Heart and Promise
    To" and I think it's in the movie but can't be sure. Has anyone picked
    up the movie soundtrack?? and if so is it a good one??.
    
       Also does anyone know if there's a second tape/cut out by "Becky
    Hobbs"?? her first album was pretty good, or so I thought. Tunes like
    "All Keyed Up" and "She Broke Her Promise" just to mention a few. I
    thought I heard a new tune the other day but can't be sure if it was
    her or not.
    
       Well Virginia/Ken, I've finally tried the line dancing stuff. A few
    friends took me out a couple of weeks ago to a new bar here for my
    Birthday. Well it was complete line dancing only, the bar was so packed
    by 8:30 pm, that we couldn't move, but what a riot. Other girls/guys
    who had come with us laughed their head off as they stood by and
    watched me try too learn this. I did find a couple of things, one was I
    felt kind of intimidated as I'd never done this and everyone else
    looked like they were doing such a great job. Haha, the other I never
    seem so many people who like Country Music in one place, well now I'm
    booked for lessons hahahaha will let you know how it goes. Got any tips
    for me????????????
    
    
    Talk atcha later OK..
    
     

    I'll let Ken give you the line dancing tips.  (He won't talk to me
    anymore)
    
    I did see "Pure Country" and a friend has the tape soundtrack.  I loved
    the movie but George Strait is my favorite country singer.  The
    soundtrack is good too.  I'm just waiting for video to come out.
    
    Nice to get mail from you again, Rose.
    
    Virginia

    
    
    RE:.251
    
    Rosey....I haven't seen Becki Hobbs come out with a new album yet...
    
    SO you tried the line dancing ay?.....ENJOY..It's fun....Too bad it was
    ONLY line-dancing...There are some FUN couples dances to do..
    
    ENJOY!
    
    

    Hi out there,
    I've been following this conference for a while and thought it was
    about time to join in. Being from Europe, I don't get much country
    music around here, still I am as much into it as you can imagine.
    I've been to the US a couple of times and seen a couple of great
    concerts (Alabama, 'No Hats Tour', Sawyer Brown, ...). Also been to Fan
    Fair for the past 2 years and it's been a blast. Actually I will be
    there again this year (anyone else?).
    One question to you all being close to the well: My favorite group
    (next to Alabama), is Restless Heart. Unfortunately lead singer Larry
    Stewart and keyboarder Dave Innis split. Has anyone heard the new song
    Larry is supposed to have out these days?
    Anyone heard the new Dolly song (Romeo)? I read the plan to push it all
    over the WORLD (sort of follow up to her 'Whitney Houston' hit).
    Tom
    P.S.: Saw Kris Kristofferson perform here in town last night. He did
    some sort of 'unplugged' (just he and guitar and keyboard). He still is
    one of the all time best songwriters of all times (Got a pocket full of
    empty and a heart full of dreams...)

    Hey Tom!
    
    Welcome!
    
    I love Restless Heart!  I have heard the new song but of course I can't
    remember the name.  The band's sound it the same but the singer sounds
    alot different.  I like the song alot and the stations here play it
    alot.  I will try to remember to write down the name next time.  Bad
    memory, isn't that the first thing to go?  Ken, you would know the
    answer to that one!
    
    I heard the new Doly one too.  It is already overplayed here in
    California but I still like it.  I saw the video also.  The man's voice
    is non other than Billy Ray Cyrus.  Kathy Matea (sp?), Tanya Tucker,
    Trisha Yearwood and Mary Chapin Carpenter are all in it.  I love the
    video, it's just like what me and my friends do in the bars.  Ooops,
    there goes my character!
    
    Virginia

    Virginia,
    Thanks for the info; hopefully I get to see that Dolly video sooner or
    later. I have a friend in the US who sends me video tapes (TNN, CMT)
    once in a while. Actually I got myself a special VCR that can read the
    US video system (NTSC) which is different from the European one (PAL,
    SECAM), so that I can watch those country vid's which I believe are
    much better than most of the pop/rock ones. So I stock up on them
    whenever I get to the US.
    Quite recently (Oct.92) CMT Europe started broadcasting, but you have
    to have a satellite dish to receive it (which I don't), plus the
    reception quality is not too good either. Seems like I have to keep on
    starving...
    Since I am into it, I learned what an impact Garth had on the American
    music scene. Over here most people have never heard of him. I was
    hoping that would change (for country music in general) with his
    European tour, but then he cancelled it...
    So all we get on the radio is Billy Ray Cyrus (because he was US Top
    40!) and lately 'When She Cries' by Restless Heart which went No 5 in
    the US.
    Fortunately we have 2(!) stores in town (not much for a city with over
    1 million inhabitants) where I can get import CDs as most country CDs
    don't get released here.
    2 good ones I got lately was 'Twilight Town' by Mike Reid and 'Welcome
    to Howdywood' by BoyHowdy (about half a year old -the CD) which has a
    lot of uptempo songs on it. Don't like the new Billy Dean much.
    Well, nuff for now. Talk to you later.
    Tom

    Wow,
    
    I don't know how long I could survive on that limited ammount of
    Country music.  ARe there any country Dance places there?  We have
    quite a few good ones around here in California.
    
    I am part of a REcord Club.  I get the latest CD's every month so I
    keep up on the new stuff comming out.  I don't like Billy Ray at all. 
    Some of his songs are good but the CD's he has put out as a whole realy
    lack anything to excite me.  As for Billy Dean, I don't think he is
    realy big (like Garth) But he is popular.  I like his ballads.  As for
    Garth Brooks..............I can do without.  His first CD was great and
    to the heart of country people but now he seems to have changed alot
    and I am not impressed.    Now give me Clint Black or George STrait any
    day.
    
    Virginia

    Hi, Folks--
    
    Hope Y'all don't mind another new noter in your midst.  I've recently
    been introduced to this particular notesfile, and have been reading for
    a couple of weeks now.  I must admit to having been a "closet" country
    fan for a while.  A driving trip down to Houston about three years ago
    brought me around and "out."  It seems, now, that it was just before
    this boom that's sweeping the US.
    
    What did it for me, especially, were the female artists and the
    poignancy of most of the songs I heard.  Of course, there was Reba and
    Tanya, but also Kathy Mattea, K.T. Oslin, Roseanne Cash and my very
    favorite, Mary-Chapin Carpenter.  Certain things by Trisha Yearwood and
    Suzy Boggus also catch my ear and attention.  And I did by Wynonna's
    album on the day it was released.
    
    As for the men, well, Clint Black was the clincher.  Since then,
    however, I have developed a _very_ soft spot for Vince Gill and Alan
    Jackson.  I can do without Billy Ray, and it depends on the song
    whether or not I can tolerate Garth.
    
    Our local summer concert spot, Great Woods (a terrific place to hear
    music) has announced a show with Clint Black and Wynonna on the same
    bill.  I may have to get in line early for that one.
    
    So, any suggestions for this former "Boston Rocker"?  I have been
    buying some CDs.  They're mostly newer releases.  I'm not real crazy
    about the Hank Williams, Buck Owens, era.
    
    Thanks for listening.  Hope to participate more in the future, if
    you'll be patient with my newness to this great music....
    
    --TM

    Hi again,
    No there are no country dance places here in Europe (but lot's of
    techno/house/hiphop and that stuff which you better keep off my ears).
    Last summer when I was in the US I got the club mix version of 'Boot
    Scootin' Boogie' and I like that a lot. We used to play it in the car a
    lot and it sort of became our theme song (my friend is an avid dancer,
    but more into the aformentioned music category). Still I think I got
    her into country a little because a while back she told me that she
    learned to do the 'Boot Scootin' Boogie'...
    
    I like Garth ('The Dance' or 'Learning to Live' are songs that I can
    relate to a lot) and some Billy Ray. I think the difference between you
    and me, is that I can't get sick of them, because I hardly get to hear
    (not to mention see them). Some of my US friends used to be real big GB
    fans but can't stand him anymore because they've had enough of that
    Garthmania...
    
    I also like MC Carpenter. I think 'ComeOn ComeOn' and 'State of the
    Heart' are her best albums. Besides her I like Wynonna and Michelle
    Wright (she is such a nice person and lot's of fun - met her at last
    years' Fan Fair in Nashville). Otherwise I prefer guys (music wise!).
    I discovered country music in 82 with Alabama's Mountain Music and the
    likes of Waylon and Willie. Then I discovered Earl Thomas Conley and
    Eddy Raven and Travis Tritt and Marty Stuart and groups like Restless
    Heart and Sawyer Brown.
    
    I don't like all but I do enjoy some Clint and GS (Put yourself in my
    shoes, loving blind, baby blue, so good in love, amarillo by morning,
    marina del rey, ...).
    
    So when you dance, do you have a particular partner or does everyone
    just sort of line up (line-dance?) and face whoever is there ...???
    
    Tom

    Welcome TM!  We will take in anyone who wants to come and chat.
    
    Tom,
    
    Too bad you don't have anywhere to do and dance to country music out
    there.  Umm, now with the line dancing........that is usualy just you
    and the music, dancing all by yourself.  There may be alot of other
    people out there but you dance alone.  I do have a several dance
    partners for the two-step, polka, cowboy cha cha and other `couples'
    dances.  I love to swing but it takes a realy good partner for a woman
    to follow and not get hurt.  Some men out here can get real dangerous
    on the dance floor with a fast swing song.
    
    Ken, 
    
    You had said that you never get current music from the record clubs.  I
    am with Columbia house and I get the latest releases about 2 months
    after they hit the stores.  Kathy Mettea is the next one I will be
    getting and I know the radio stations here are still promoting this CD. 
    Maybe you should look into getting with this club.
    
    Just my ..........02 worth.
    
    Virginia

    I need some info about a country song, I am not a country fan but when
    I was in the service I had a roommate who was a big fan and he had a
    tape of some songs he had made along the line of Ray Stevens, the song
    I am trying to find out about is called "THE RODEO SONG" I think that
    is the correct title there were a couple of other ones but this is the
    only one I can remember.
                                      brian

I don't know who did the Rodeo Song, but it's popular in the C/W bars here
in Colorado. It's a song that I've gotten requests for when I play out, 
however, not one that I would ever play (as it's riddled with obsenities,
and tends to offend many people).

							Jens

    
    RE: 260
    
    Viginia....I WAS a memeber of Colombia House...They screwed up my
    orders too many time for my likeing and I didn't like there Attitude
    with the way the sent mail...it's a long story.
    
    RE: 261 - The RODEO SONG.
    
    It's an old song done my the SHOWDOWNS...they are a Canadian Band...
    You might be ablt to find it on a 45.
    
    Ken
    

    
    The Rodeo song is on the CD entitled the "Copulation Compilation".
    
    It has a number of other X rated tunes.  I don't recall the label...?
    
    

    RE: Columbia House - Oh.
    
    RE: Rodeo Song - Cool song and I know it was outlawed in the base
    clubs a few years ago.  Too many bad words..........like Marines have
    never heard them before!  Sheesh!
    
    Virginia
    
    

    Hi, Again--
    
    Virginia, thanks for the welcome.  Well, since you let me in, you got
    me!  
    
    I entered this info. in the Folk Music note, but thought that some of
    you here might be interested:  PBS is broadcasting an Austin City
    Limits show this month to help with their membership/pledge drive.  The
    show will be during "prime time."  Mary Chapin-Carpenter!  In the
    Boston area, it will be shown March 24 on Ch. 44, and March 27 on Ch.
    2.  I believe both programs will be broadcast at 8 p.m. EST.  For those
    of you outside Greater Boston, check your PBS listing during that week.
    
    I caught the Songwriters' awards on TNN last week.  Vince Gill won for
    song of the year with "I Still Believe in You."  I like the fact that
    all ten "Nominated" songs were performed on the show.  But, I guess
    this is an award that readers of Music City News vote on.  So,
    naturally, Achy Breaky Heart was nominated.
    
    Not much else happenin' with this "Boston Rocker."  Is there any more
    scoop on what/who is coming to OVATIONS in Peabody????
    
    Thanks again for the welcome,
    --TMf

    Gidday Tom,
    
         It's always nice to see a new comer, so how's it going?? if you're 
    into country music you will definately enjoy this conference.
    
         As far as fan fair goes I've never been, however I have gone to
    Nashville and had a great time while there. I am thinking of going to
    fan fair this year possibly but am waiting to see about holidays. So
    who were the entertainers you saw while there, and did you actually get
    to meet any of them?? did you get any autographs?? I'd of been right in
    heaven. It would drive me completely nuts if I didn't have my country
    music. I've never seen Alabama, but think these guys are great, they
    did put on apparently an excellent concert here in (Ottawa, Ontario,
    Canada) about three - four years ago, couldn't go as I was working man
    I was mad. 
    
         I've heard Dolly's new tune "ROMEO" and seen the video, I liked it
    although it took abit to get used too, I listen to it now al the time.
    I did hear that some of the radio stations in Nashville didn't like to
    play it as they say it's too provocative, does anyone else know
    anything about this?? I didn't find it as such at all.
    
         As far as Restless Heart goes I love there tune "When She Cries",
    in fact most of the rock stations here are playing it as well. When I
    try and tell friends it's a country band they think I'm nuts hahahaha,
    It's amazing how far country music has come, and it's good to see it's
    not all the old stuff, I think we needed to change (although don't get
    me wrong I still enjoy the old stuff).
    
         Garth Brooks, Hhhhhmmmm let me see now, when Garth came out with
    "The Dance" I loved it and still do, he explains in his video that the
    song was dedicated too all JKF, Elvis, and so on, and you see these
    individuals in the video. I have his new cd "The Chase" and I like the
    tune "Somewhere Other Than The Night" and thats about it, as Viginia
    said I think he's changed too much.
    
         I also like Clint Black's "Burn One Down For Me", it was on TNN
    the other night that both he and his wife Lisa Hartmen Black had gone
    to I bevieve Bosnia to give a live concert.
    
        George Straits Pure Country tune "I Cross My Heart" gets to me
    everytime. As well I haven't heard George's "Amarillo By Morning" tune
    in quite some time, this was a good tune as well, there are so many
    great tunes. 
    
        --TMF, glad to see you along too. 
    
    Rose..
    

    Ken, Virginia,
    
        How's it going you too?? 
    
      I was visiting a friend this weekend at a house party, and someone
    stared line dancing (although this seemed to be more like the electric
    slide) and the tune "I Cross My Heart" came on. As a lot of people
    don't know how to dance to this yet (including me) everyone just just
    dancing the one and two step slow dance. This guy in the crowd gets all
    upset as he says you should be dancing much faster to this tune. Ok
    here's the question?? do you notice that a lot of the country songs
    (slower songs) when danced too seem to be really slow or people seem to
    dance to fast to these. Do you dance just the one or two step to a slow
    one, or are there famous techniques that maybe I don't know of??
    
    
    Thanks.
    
    
    Rose..
    

    Hi, Folks--
    
    Sorry about my sign-off.  Seems my typo key has been working in
    overdrive.  I usually sign with my initials, "TM" -- just a habit I
    started when I first started working longer ago than I care to admit. 
    Anyway, my name is Terri (yes, with an "i").  
    
    Question for whomever -- has anyone listened to Kathy Mattea's new
    album?  I'm considering buying it.  I really like the cuts I've heard
    so far.  Believe it or not, for someone who was a bit advserse to
    country music until several years ago, her "18 Wheels and a Dozen
    Roses" was one of the tunes that made me listen closer.  Not sure why.
    
    So, has anyone given the new CD a listen.  I believe the title is
    "Lonesome Standard Time."  And, I do like that particular song.
    
    Thanks again, folks.  Talk to you soon,
    --Terri (TM)

    Hello all!
    
    Well Well.  WE sure are getting some action in here now.  Must be the
    spring thaw.  Sorry, bad joke.
    
    Anyway.....Rose you had mentioned something in your mail to me about a
    get together this summer.  I was thinking of Fan Fair.  I have never
    been and realy don't know when it will be.  I think that would be fun
    and I'm sure the dancing there would be great!  What does everybody
    think about that?  As for you question about song dance speed.  I have
    ralized that there are two tempos to a song.  If you listen you can
    here the slow and the up-beat.  I prefere the up-beat myself but that
    is because I love dancing!  It is up to you.  Most men like the slow
    beat, why is that Ken?
    
    Terri......Thanks for the name.  Alot of people use their initials but
    I like names better.  I will be getting Kathy's new CD in about 2 weeks
    I think.  I can let you know then if you think you can wait that long. 
    I would get the CD myself.  I think Kathy's music represents alot of
    respect for the old style of country music with enough of the new and
    fresh influences to make it great to listen to.  I like country music
    that is dancable, that is what makes the difference in what I buy.
    
    Wow!  I hope this all keeps up and give your opinions on meeting for
    Fan Fair.
    
    
    Virginia

    Virginia--
    
    Thanks for the reply.  I'll probably wait for your impression of
    Kathy's CD.  I'm still just a bit discriminating in my music purchases.
    
    As for Fan Fair -- I have been toying with that notion since I
    subscribed to Music City News.  They always have so much coverage of
    the event, and list all that will happen there.  Does anyone know
    when it will be this year?  My problem is I've already planned and paid
    for a three week vacation for this year.  Soooo, while I would love to
    meet you all there, it may be virtually impossible this year.  But, who
    knows...
    
    --Terri

    Terri-
    
      I really like the tune "18 Wheels an A Dozen Rose's", and I'm not
    certain but I believe I've seen the video for "Lonesome Standard Time".
    
      In the video Kathy's playing her guitar, and dancing around like
    she's having a riot. As far as the cd goes, I can't tell ya as I don't
    have it either I guess we'll wait to hear more in this conference.
    
      Virginia-
    
     Fan Fair: What a great idea, I am trying to book holidays for this
    right now however, I can't guarantee anything yet. When I went to
    Nashville last, I believe people told me I had missed Fan Fair by two
    weeks (was down there from August/02/91 to about August/24/91), however
    I don't know if it happened before or after, I believe it was after. I
    think this would be a great place for us all to get together, if I'm
    not mistaken I still have brocures at home which contain the phone
    numbers that we'll need to check a little further in this, what do ya
    think.
    
       Question going to All: How far are you from Nashville Tennessee????
    
       What do ya think Ken, will you be joining us as well.
    
       If we can arrange this Terri, I hope you can make it after all the
       more the merrier right..
    
    
    Gotta go.. work needs doing..
    
    Talk atcha 
    
    Rose
    

    Hi, All--
    
    Well, I guess I won't be joining the Fan Fair excursion.  I'm going to
    be in Hawaii for three weeks in April.  So, trying to scrounge enough
    time and money for a June jaunt will be very difficult indeed, even if
    tickets were available.  
    
    But....if Fan Fair doesn't work for most of you, what about something
    else another time in Nashville.  But, in the not-too-distant future. 
    Maybe the fall???  
    
    Just a thought, and the city may not be as crowded -- though, for me
    that would be part of the fun.
    
    Talk to you soon,
    --Terri

    
    RE: .270 Most men like the slow beat, why is that Ken?
    
    Because they figure the women can dance better at that speed?...
    hah!..my sexist reply to your sexist statement!...teehee!..just 
    teasin Virginia!
    
    

     Gonna miss you Tom and Terri!
    
    After Tom's information I don't know if I would be able to make it my
    self in June.  I have already set my vacation this year in August. 
    Plus I don't think there will be any tickets left if it is as popular
    as it seems.  Sounds almost like the NFR.  It sells out the week the
    tickets go on sale!  I hate that sometimes.
    
    I do like the idea of meeting later in the fall.  That I may be able
    to swing.  
    
    I live in California so TN is on the other side of the country from me. 
    I have never been there myself.
    
    Good luck to all and I hope Rose can get her tickets.
    
    Virginia

       *sniff* *sniff* *sniff*!!!!!!!!
    
          No tickets, Oh my gosh and I was really counting on this too.
    
    It's kind of late now for me too book my holidays around this time, as
    I thought this was in late August. However the more I think about it 30
    hours of music over 5 days is not really that much (correct me if I'm
    wrong), I assumed that the music went on all afternoon/evening for the
    full five days Hhhmmmmmmm. As well if you not a member to a club, you
    could be left sitting outside, granted there's probably lots to do
    however it's sounds life this is where all the action will be.
    
         As June is a lot earlier than I expected I doubt very much that I
    will be able to attend, looks like this country girl will have to pass
    for yet another year. One quick question Tom can I purchase a ticket
    now for next year, or will they sell that far ahead.
    
         Maybe as Terri has suggested, meeting in the fall is not a bad
    idea, and yes things will probably have had some time to setting/calm
    down a bit, I would think this may be a little cheaper as well as it's
    the off season.
    
          Hey Ken, How goes it. Regarding the dance, I think the dance all
    depends on the mood you're in and the tune thats playing.
    
          Terri, you're going to Hawaii, good for you and I hope you have a
    great time. It sounds like we'll have to see what happens with
    Nashville in the fall through our conference room chats..
    
          Virginia,
    
           No I hadn't called about tickets yet as I was waiting to see if
    holidays were confirmed or not, looks like I may have lucked out Oh
    well. I was trying to take 2 - 3 weeks off in August, looks like if
    this is the case I may just be renting a cottage in country and check
    out the fishing and camping, maybe invite some friends and do a bit of
    partying. Now thats relaxing...
    
    Rose
    

    Well, well, so I guess everyone's out now... In any case I'll let you
    know how it was.
    From my experience, the rest of the year Nashville is VERY calm. You
    can do all the souvenir shops and museums of the stars on MUSIC ROW or
    check out the Hermitage of former president Jackson on the outside of
    Nashville or maybe get lucky to catch a concert at Starwood...
    I noticed over the past 2 years that during Fan Fair week a lot of
    clubs have stars performing, on MUSIC ROW they are open til late at
    night with music on the streets/parking lots and singing and dancing
    out on the deck (Gilley's for instance). The day after Fan Fair it was
    back to normal, everything seemed dead around MUSIC ROW.
    Rose,
    30 hours of music may not seem much at first glimpse, but that's just
    what's included at the Fairgrounds. There's a lot more going on all
    over town and you are well advised to prepare a schedule, so that you
    don't miss your favorite stars perform somewhere. In fact you have to
    make some sort of compromise; at the Fairgrounds you have to decide
    whether you want to meet a star inside of the exhibit halls or see one
    perform outside (on the racetrack). I usually bring my CD's to have
    them signed but also I don't want to miss some performances, so I keep
    running back and forth. Usually I don't even find the time for lunch.
    When the exhibit halls close it's off to some fanclub party, maybe a
    concert at Opryland park, at Tower Records or just to catch the
    atmosphere on MUSIC ROW (check out the record stores there). And at the
    end of the week they give away a lot of the stuff they had at the Fan
    Fair booths which they don't want to carry back home (posters,
    pictures, tapes, CD's). There is also a competition for the best
    fanclub booth and you always look forward what the booths are going to
    look like this year (I remember last year Doug Stone had one designed
    like a big rock, T. Graham Brown had a Taco Bell place, Randy Travis a
    country grocery store, Trisha Yearwood a recording studio, Sawyer Brown
    had the Cafe On the Corner...).
    I enjoy the little look I get at stars when I meet them and talk to
    them. Most of them are really as nice and caring as everyone says. Over
    the past 2 years I met Travis Tritt, Restless Heart, Sawyer Brown, Eddy
    Raven, Earl Thomas Conley, T. Graham Brown, Michelle Wright, Pirates of
    the Mississippi, Exile and a few more (that was just my personal
    choice).
    As far as tickets go you should keep your eyes open around December or
    January, I think that's the time when they start selling them but I can
    check it out for sure when I am down there. I know a lot of people book
    their hotel for next year when they are at Fan Fair.
    Well, so much for FF.
    2 years ago I went down to Ft. Payne Alabama right after Fan Fair to
    check out the annual Alabama June Jam which is another major event
    around that time. The main thing is a big one-day concert but they've
    added lots of other events over the years so that it has almost become
    June Jam week. When I was down there (just for the concert) there were
    67 000 others and the show closer was Alabama with a fantastic show.
    So next time you all prepare for a June vacation in the south, there is
    lots of things to do (especially for country music lovers)...
    
    Tom.

    Hey Tom!
    
    I have an idea.  Since you seem to be the most knowledgeable about the
    FF, would you mind being a tour guid next year maybe?  I have never
    been but would love to go next year.  I would hate the whole expiernce
    to be ruined because I just didn't knwo what to do next.  Maybe we
    could all get into the same hotel and all.  I know it is a long way off
    but I like to plan ahead.
    
    Rose, it sounds like you were just a few weeks too late to check on
    those tickets.  With Tom's info we should all be able to get tickets
    for next year.  Now we just need to see which singers and groups to
    see.  I think that would be the best part.  And with Tom along it
    shouldn't be too hard to plan an exciting time while we are there.
    
    Ken,  You haven't given any input about all this.  Don't you want to
    hang out in Nashville with all of us?
    
    Virginia

    Hi Virginia,
    Sounds cool to me. One year is a long time indeed, but keeping FF 94 as
    a serious consideration in mind cannot hurt. The first time I went to
    FF was in 91 and I still got my ticket in early April, the year after I
    was lucky to get one in March, this year I made my decision to go in
    early February and obiously got one of the last tickets. Since FF seems
    to sell out earlier every year December/January might be a good time to 
    make a
    final decision about FF 94. That should give us all some time to think
    about it.
    
    A different question: There is a California band called Zaca Creek and
    they had a CD out about 2 years ago. Now they're supposed to be back
    with a new song. Anyone heard it...???
    
    Does anyone know if they try to cross ROMEO over to the pop/rock
    stations? I haven't heard anything of the album or song over here and
    was just wondering what happened to the big campaign they announced to
    promote it...
    
    Tom.

    Hi, all--
    
    Tom, I still "channel surf" on my radio back to pop/rock (in Boston, we
    have but 1 country station), and haven't heard ROMEO.  The New
    Hampshire country station, which I can receive in the car when I'm
    north of Boston, plays it a bit.  But, that's still country.
    
    FF 94 sounds good to me.  This is just about right for me to start
    planning my '94 vacation!  I think it would be a hoot to meet in
    Nashville and enjoy!  I'll stay tuned for any further developments.....
    
    Hope y'all have a good weekend,
    --Terri
    
    P.S. Shawn Colvin will be playing a small venue in the Boston area at
    the end of April.  Tix go on sale tomorrow.  Should I do it?  I know
    she sang back-up on Mary-Chapin Carpenter's "Shooting Straight in the
    Dark" album.  Also, saw a bit of one of Shawn's video's the other
    night.  Don't know much else.  She seems country-folkish, which is just
    fine with me.  Has anyone seen Shawn in concert.

    You guys are lucky!  I hear Romeo every morning noon and night!  It
    will be overplayed in another month or so.  I don't know anything about
    it crossing over either.
    
    FF 94 sounds great!  I just hope I can remember to call for a ticket in
    January......
    
    Virginia

    Can we ask the folks attending this year's FF to do a little
    reconnaissance on our behalf?  -- Dates FF will be held in '94; hotels
    that encourage/entertain group accomodations/rates; anything else of
    interest RE:  next year -- oh, yeah, when we should order tix, should
    we order them as a group....I think you get the idea.
    
    Just some thoughts...
    
    --Terri

    Terri,
    
    Good ideas!  I wish I had thought of them.  This just might turn out to
    be a great vacation for '94.  Now I just have to make sure I can get my
    tax return mailed in time.
    
    Virginia who_just_now_mailed_hers.

    Gee Rose,
    
    Don't write so much next time.
    
    V

    Hey, somebody dared to break the silence on the line (Operator,
    operator, would you be so kind and reconnect me to this number, I just
    spent my last dime...)
    
    A friend of mine and I had a CMT session last night, which means we
    tuned CMT Europe in which you can do if you have a BIG satellite dish
    (which he has ...). So we updated ourselves on the latest videos.
    
    Eventually got to see 'Romeo'; noticed Alan Jackson cut off his
    mustache; saw 'Is There Life Out There' for the first time; saw the new
    Brooks&Dunn;
    
    Anyone have the new Brooks&Dunn CD (especially you dancers out there I
    would think?!?!). Any comments?
    
    Another video I noticed, that's all dance (I don't know whether it was
    just made up for the video) was 'Born to Love You' by Mark Collie. Do
    you ever get to dance to that one?
    
    Any (good) new music out...???
    
    Although I got a good 'Honky Tonk Attitude' I have to prove the 'Hard
    Working Man' now before I get into 'T-R-O-U-B-L-E'...
    
    Tom.

    Hi, me again
    
    Just read your note (somewhere else) on Great Plains. They came out
    about a year ago, their only CD so far is selftitled. I met them at Fan
    Fair last year, but missed on seeing them perform.
    I like their CD because it has a good mixture of uptempo songs and
    ballads (not too hard country) and good harmony vocals. I think their 2
    best known songs from last year were 'Iola' and 'Faster Gun'(which has
    a 'cool sound').
    I was wondering if they would ever make it to another CD, since I
    haven't heard from them in a while...
    Tom.

    Ha ha, Virginia,
    
         I guess when they say that night shift causes burnout their not
    kidding, I must have been burned out when I put my reply in last night.
    
         Anyways, I finally got to watch the movie "Pure Country" staring
    George Strait and it was great. I liked it so much infact that I'm
    waiting for the video to be available for purchase and I'll buy one.
    
         I went out over the weekend and purchased a new stereo system as
    well as 7 cd's, and I sent to Columbia House for 9 more. From the
    sounds of it I'll have enough music to do me for some time. I wanted to
    order a cd by Reba, it says it's her newest, however I wonder what
    there idea of her newest is. On the front cover she's wearing a blue
    cotton shirt, does anyone have any idea, is this actually her newest
    release???. I did order George Straits cd, this will definitely be a 
    good one.
    
          Has anyone heard of George Fox? he's a Canadian entertainer from
    the west part of Canada and is not too bad, I am considering going to a
    concert here in Ottawa April/21/93.
    
    Rose
    

    Well well well,
    
    I guess there is life out there.
    
    Thanks for the info on "Great Plains"  I just might go see them next
    week.  I will let you all know how it was.
    
    Reba's new one is called `It's Your Call' and I am getting it from
    Columbia house also.  Enjoy your George Strait, he be my Idol!!
    
    I have a question about a song.  It is titled "Rock me in the cradle of
    love".  I think it is by Brenda Lee.  I have my Colombia house
    catalogue here and the only CDs they list for here are "Anthology:
    Volumes 1 & 2" and "The Brenda Lee Story".  Am I looking at the wrong
    artist for this song?  Someone please set me straight.
    
    Virginia

       I've tried to give Reba's new CD (It's Your Call) a fair break,
       but it just doesn't seem to be in the same league as some of her
       earlier albums.  I don't think I've made it to the end of the 
       album yet, it gets boring and imo, the songs aren't that great.

       It's almost kind of turned me off towards her.  We've discussed
       it briefly earlier in this topic so I won't get into it.  Does
       Tanya Tucker have a new CD out ?  My last that I have by her is
       What Do I Do With Me.  

       Larry 

        

    Hi,
    Rose,
    Yes, Reba is wearing the blue shirt on 'It's Your Call'. I don't have
    the CD but I've listened to it and it's (as mentioned before) mostly mellow
    stuff. It concludes the healing process which she started with 'For My
    Broken Heart', as she says in her liner notes on the album. So the
    overall mood is still very calm but a little more willing to look at
    the happy side of life than previously.
    What other CD's did you get? Any favorites, dislikes?
    Virginia,
    Also got to see the video 'Heartland'. Did GS really grow a pony tail
    for the movie or was that fake?
    'Rock me in the cradle...' sounds familiar, but I cant think what it
    is. The only two songs that come to my mind are 'Rock Me' by Deborah
    Allen and 'The HandsThat Rock the Cradle' by Steve Wariner...
    
    Tom
     

    Well, Well,
    
          I don't know about this file, it appears to go in spurts from
    slowing down a bit, too just racing, but all kidding aside it's great.
    
          I think I will go ahead and pick up Reba's new cd, I love the
    song "For My Broken Heart", and I do like her ballads. On occasion when
    I am taping music, I sometimes like to record 1 full tape which contain 
    ballads only, quess I'm a sucker for this stuff ehhh.
    
          As far as what cd I ordered hahahaha, I can't remember. On the
    weekend I picked up a Ray Stevens cd, this one is pretty funny, George
    and Tammy's Greatest hits of all time, Dolly partons greatest with
    feature hit "Coat of Many Colors" as I love that tune. As well I got
    Vince Gills "I Still Believe in You", and two cd of Rock groups, 
    AC/DC's Thunderstruck, and Meatloaf "Bat Outa H*LL". I do listen too
    some rock as well, as you can probably tell.
    
          "Rock Me In The Cradle of Love", Isn't that wild it's like I
    can't remember at all.  I know I have heard this and for some strange 
    reason I don't thing Brenda Lee comes too mind. Maybe if you put a
    few of the words to this, maybe the first three lines, then it would
    probably come to me.
    
           Well gotta go folks, it's soon time to go home and devour my
    easter bunny, man am I going to have to jog all weekend to loose those
    calories or what.
    
                                  *Happy Easter *
                                      To All
    
    
    
    P.S. Have a good one all
    
    Rose,...
    

    AHHHHHHH!
    
    It is Debroah Allen!!!  To bad columbia doesn't carry her cd!  Well,
    looks like I will have to go to the record store and buy it there.
    
    For GS, I have no idea if he grew a pony tail or not.  That may be a
    good triva question to ask the radio stations.  I think the one I
    listen to around here give tickets or something for good triva
    questions.  Thanks for the idea.
    
    Hellooooooooooo Rose!  I know you are probably off for holiday weekend
    but happy late Easter to ya.  So what did you do?  My and my son are
    going to a mini-golf/mini-carnival place in Riverside.  We are having
    dinner with mom and my sister on Sunday tho.
    
    Have a hoppy one!!
    
    Virginia

  I'm just now catching up with some of the worthier country music
  recordings of 1992.  Two really stand out, as great "hard country"
  antidotes to more ephemeral phenomena (not to mention any names):
  
    HEATHER MYLES: Just Like Old Times (Hightone)

    MARTY BROWN: Wild Kentucky Skies (MCA)
    
  Critics praised these to the skies, and I think they are even better than
  the Alison Krauss, Iris Dement, and other releases I had mentioned in a
  FOLK_MUSIC country topic.

  Not to dump on Billy Ray Cyrus, but I thoroughly enjoyed the achey-breaky
  spoof I heard in Tower Records.  "Don't touch that spot, that itchy
  scratchy spot...  'Cause if you touch that spot, that itchy scratchy
  spot...  <something about breaking into a rash>...".  The barnyard animals
  accompaniment might be in questionable taste but...  8)       - Jay

     REPLY 295:
    
            I have heard this tune and actually think it's pretty funny.
    
            Quick question, I heard the tune and saw the new video of (I
    think) Tracey Lawrence. I don't know the name of the song but, it goes
    something like this.
    
            She once thought that love 
            wasn't just game (sorry thats all I can remember)
            
    	    She's been kicked around and cheated on (again can't remember)
    
    Anyone know this tune?? is it Tracey Lawrence??? does anyone have this
    cd? if so is it good one?? I think I have seen another video he sings,
    something about working man, although I can't remember the name of that
    tune either.
    
    
    Thanks 
    
    Rose
    

       Good Morning All,
    
       (PRINTED WITHOUT PERMISSION)
    
            I read an article in our local news paper this morning "Ottawa
    Sun". The article tells how Country Music Entertainer "Garth Brooks"
    during an interview with Barbara Walters about a month ago, explained
    how he decided to retire as he felt he owed it to his new child, and
    wife.
    
            The article goes on to explain that Garth now stands before
    Canadian camera's and confesses that he lied, and the original reason 
    he quit was do to an affair he had and his wife found out. He also
    explains how he is back to again sing, and basically thanks god that he
    can see his wrong doings. He is even compared to be better than Elvis.
    
            Anyone heard anything about this..
    
    Rose..
    

    Hey Rose!
    
    I actually saw the interview with Barbara Walters.  It was on after
    some awards show.  I knew about some of the infidelities but I didn't
    know he lied about his reason for wanting to stop touring.  I wonder if
    the medical problems his wife had were do to finding out about his
    affair.  It just proves that even Garth Brooks is human.
    
    As for that song.............I have not a clue.  Sorry........
    
    I recieved the new Suzy Booggus CD yesterday but Barney was on so I
    couldn't listen too it.  I will give a review tomorrow if you all can
    wait.
    
    So what happened to the other noters in here?
    
    Virginia

>     He is even compared to be better than Elvis.

  Wow -- I trust he didn't make this statement himself, but that it came
  from someone statistics-oriented or otherwise astonishingly ignorant.

  Garth's OK on record (e.g., "No Fences"), though I personally don't think
  he represents anywhere near the best in country music today...  - Jay

    RE 291: Yes, Tanya does have a new CD out; actually it's been out for
    almost half a year and the name is 'Can't Run From Yourself'. I have
    heard parts of it and I think it's her pop-iest one in a while. She has
    had 2 singles of it so far (I think), something about 'sparrows' and an
    uptempo one I can't remember. The CD includes a duett with Delbert
    McClinton (but you don't get to hear much of him, sort of the 'duet'
    Trisha did with Don Henley...) and the cover shows a very sassy and
    sexy looking Tanya.
    
    Rose, those lines don't ring a bell in my mind either. I don't care too
    much for TL (maybe I haven't heard enough); the last (and only song) I
    liked was the one they shot the video for on the beach. Maybe I can
    find something on my tape of the CMT session last week...
    
    One CD I am waiting for to get over here is the new one by Willie
    ('Across the borderline'). I've been a long time fan of his and I know
    if someone can tell you something about life, he does! Just like a
    critic said, 'he may have been down (With the IRS and all), but he has
    never been out'.
    On the new CD he does songs by Bob Dylan, John Hiatt, Peter 
    Gabriel ('Don't Give Up'), Lyle Lovett, sings with Paul Simon 
    ('Graceland') and Bonnie Raitt. Enough Taco Bell commercials for him...
    
    So, Garth is still around? Now that he is off the pop charts top ten
    and didn't even get nominated for a grammy, I don't get to hear
    anything about him over here...
    
    Tom 

         Thanks for the info on Tanya.  I'll have to make it a point 
         to pick it up soon.  She's one of my faves.

	 Lv

    Hi everyone,
    I got the new Willie Nelson CD last Friday and I have to add another
    raving review to the ones already published about this album in the
    press. 'Across the Borderline' may be not only the best album
    of Willie's career but also THE album of 1993!!! This album showcases
    the musical genius of a man who is capable of delievering music that
    defies any categorizing. Even songs that are already classics (such as
    'Graceland'), come out fresh and sparkling new. 'Don't Give Up' (P.
    Gabriel) and an old Willi Dixon song from the 50's show the impressive
    musical range he feels comfortable with, because after all it's the
    song (and what an artist makes out of it) and not so much the style that
    matters most. He makes 'em all his.
    The CD contains 14 songs (worth 60 minutes of music!) and a nice
    booklet with lyrics and recording details for every song (2 pages for
    each song with individual designs for each, worth 25 pages or so).
    
    Another new CD that came out (which I didn't buy, but hear parts of) is
    one by Skip Ewing. He has been off the scene for a while and comes back
    now with an entire new sound, which is very much like George Strait
    (with that Texas Swing feel to it).
    
    One more: I also found out who does that 'Itchy Scratchy' song take off
    on 'Achy Breaky Heart'. It's a new ('comedy'?-) group called RUN C&W
    and the CD is titled 'Into the Twangy-first Century'.
    
    So much for the morning news...
    
    Tom.
    

          Gidday All,
    
            How are we all after the weekend?? OK folks I've got a couple
    of quick questions and thought maybe you could help me out.
    
            I called my auto league last week and asked them too send me a
    travel package from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, to St. Louis Missuori in
    the U.S. I decided to take my parents on a little trip to Brandson. I
    have heard that this is basically a mini Nashville and is growing very 
    rapidly, and has alot of the same stuff as seen in Nashville. My
    question is  has anyone been there?? was it worth taking the trip for??
    what were the main attractions?? how long did you stay?? and last but
    not least has anyone heard of this place?? positive or negative
    feedback requested.
    
          Once I've received my travel guide from travelers I'll let you
    know more, as they are supposed to send me all info i.e. whats going on
    scenic tours, who performing when. It's called a deluxe package which
    will scope my whole trip. If all goes well I am hoping to leave in July
    and will let all know how it went.
    
    
    Rose..
    

      Hi There Virginia,
    
    
          How goes it?? and how was the weekend?? did you see your
    horse's?? how's the little guy doing?? good I hope. Did you have a
    chance to listen to your Suzy Bogus cd?? is it a good one?? and what
    tunes are on this cd??.
    
    
         Quick question folks?? who sings the song "Old Country" i.e. goes
    something like "She used to want to climb the wall
    		    She's never really been loved at all
                    Not until Old Country came to town"
    
         I like this tune and want to purchase the cd but, I don't know who
    sings it, any feedback.
    
         Also The tune I asked about last week is call Alibi's and is by
    Tracy Lawrence, I'll be picking this one up today. For some reason the
    way he sings this tune he sounds alot like John Anderson to me. 
    
     
    Any feedback on any of the above.
    
    Rose..
    

re: .304

>         Quick question folks?? who sings the song "Old Country" i.e. goes
>    something like "She used to want to climb the wall
>    		    She's never really been loved at all
>                    Not until Old Country came to town"
    
I believe it's Mark Chestnut.

-Hal

    Hey Hal!
    Don't write so much next time  :-))
    
    He is right tho, it is Mark Chestnut.
    
    So you gonna take a trip?  I have never heard of the place you
    mentioned.
    
    I did see my horses this weekend and even got the 15 acres to move them
    to!!!
    
    I didn't listen to my Suzy Boggus CD, just couldnt' get the little
    bugger to turn off the tv.
    
    See ya all!
    
    Virginia

    Hi Rose,
    I sure have heard and read a lot about Branson, Missouri; though I
    haven't been there. A friend of mine stopped over there, when his car
    broke down on the way to St. Louis. And since it was at night his
    impression was, it looked like Las Vegas with all the lights and
    attractions. He left early in the morning thou...
    A while ago, Branson was THE big thing and it sounded like everyone was
    to move there. At last years' Fan Fair people were suspecting even FF
    would move there and on CNN they had a feature on it which concluded
    with the words, 'And the last one to leave Nashville for Branson,
    please turn off the lights...'
    Maybe it has calmed down a little in the meantime; I know there are a
    lot of old stars (such as Johnny Cash, Boxcar Willie, Larry Gatlin,
    etc.) who have moved there and set up theatres with concerts all year
    round (Andy Williams too!). And I think they also get big touring acts,
    such as Alabama.
    Shortly they will even be releasing new albums on a new Branson Record
    label, done by those 'old' stars.
    Actually i suspect it IS a lot like Las Vegas: a lot of entertainment
    in the middle of nowhere.
    
    Rolling Stone Magazine has a big cover story on Garth Brooks this
    month, but it doesn't mention anything about 'his affair'. It says
    though that now that he has decided to stay in the business plans are
    out for a new album in September and the long awaited world tour for
    94. I do hope he makes the trip all the way to Europe this time!!!
    
    Tom.

    
    
    Hey everyone..
    
    It's Virginis'a birthday today!
    
    Ken
    

    
    
    Happy Birthday Virginia.
    
    Have a fantabolous day !!!
    
    Lale
    

>    One more: I also found out who does that 'Itchy Scratchy' song take off
>    on 'Achy Breaky Heart'. It's a new ('comedy'?-) group called RUN C&W
>    and the CD is titled 'Into the Twangy-first Century'.

  Thanks for the info.  Run-D.M.C. -> Run-C&W, cute.     - Jay

    Gidday All,
    
          Thanks for the info on Mark Chestnut, I haven't yet invested in
    the cd but plan on doing so this weekend. The tune "Old Country" is
    very popular here right now.
    
          As well, thanks for the info on Branson Missouri. I received my
    travel package today in the mail and I don't know but it doesn't look
    like that much is going on. I did however request brochure's which
    never came, so I think I will call Branson and request all info they
    can give me regarding highlights of the area, I'll see what happens
    from that.
    
          Has anyone heard the latest, Garth Brooks will be cutting a
    song/video with the rock group Kiss, this is a Heavy Metal group.
    Apparently from what I understand it was a casual discussion in which
    one joke with the other that they should do this, and as you can tell
    guess what came out of it. You got it, I'll send more info as I hear.
    
          Virginia,
    
             Happy Birthday To Ya, Hope you have a good one. How's it feel
    to be one year older, I know, I know don't ask right, Oh wekk you know
    what they say, you're only as old as you feel.
    
             One more for ya, How long did it take for your cd's to come in
    from Columbia House when you first ordered???..
    
    Well Gotta Go Folks..
    
    Rose..
    

    Thanks all for the B-day comments.  And a special thanks to Ken.  
    
    Branson doesn't sound too bad.  We will expect a full detailed report
    from you Rose if you go.
    
    My CD's take about 3 weeks I think.  The original order tood about that
    long.  I don't really remember to tell you the truth.
    
    Have a good one all!
    
    Virginia

    Greetings all,
    
    Tiny nit: it's Mark Chesnutt.
    
    Hey, I went to see McBride and the Ride last night...even ran into Ken
    Wheeler, he of the tall stature and white cowboy hat.  Lemme tell ya,
    he can *dance*: he's got that gliding two-step that makes it look so
    elegant.
    
    As for McBride and the Ride, I'm hopelessly biased in favor of this
    group, since my band covers about five of their songs, but even taking
    my  bias into account, they were great!  The lineup consisted of the
    three core members (Terry McBride, Ray Herndon, and the drummer, who's
    name I forget ), plus a *great* steel player (Gary Morse...no, not Gary
    Morris!) and a keys player whose name I did not catch.  They did all of
    their hits except 'Every Step of the Way', so we heard 'Sacred Ground',
    'Just One Night', 'Count On Me' and a slew of tunes off a soon-to-be-
    released album.  They also covered 'Working Man Blues' (Merle
    Haggard?), with some very flash guitar playing by Ray.  One encore,
    nice personalities on stage, friendly and talkative signing autographs
    afterward.
    
    Ovations, the site of the concert, is a moderately sized club on the
    north side of Boston.  Seating was open; we had good seats which I
    stayed in for the opening act (John Lincoln Wright and the Sourmash
    Boys), but I spent the McBride part of the show draped over the edge of
    the stage, going to school courtesy of the steel player.  
    
    For the price of $12, I was very happy with the production.
    
    Finally, McB and the Ride will host Nashville Now this coming Monday.

    
    
    Hey John..Thanks for the KUDOS....Ya..that's the second night I've been
    wearing my Kaboy hat...it's summer and the old black beaver fur is a
    little hot these days..good meeting ya last night..and I'll
    make sure I give your card to John Penny...Maybe he'll get you there
    for the Nashville Nights show some Thursday..
    
    Great concert fer sure....That's what I like about country concerts..
    the music sounds just like the stuff on the radio and CD's...
    
    The lead singer has a great voice..he really makes the band...
    
    John Lincoln Wright was also at his best....although I heard they
    thought they couldn't get it together...The steel player in the band
    from from another ban from Conn....he plays with the Trailer's...
    anyway..John always seems to gather a bunch of guys to form a band
    every time...
    
    Anyway...great show...croded dnace floor and LOTS of eye-candy there
    too!
    
    Ken
    
    PS - Virginia..see what you missed!
    

    Yeah, Virginia, see what you be missin'?
    
    Ken, we ran into John later in the evening and basically approached him
    about the Nashville Night thing.  He was cordial and seemed to be
    interested in having the band audition.  I would appreciate it if you
    pass the card on, as a little reinforcement never hurts!
    
    I've heard that Lincoln Wright puts bands together.  The four times
    I've seen him, stretching over that last ten years, he's been the only
    one I recognized.  I thought they were okay, but a band that plays
    together steadily has that unbeatable tightness you only get from 50 or
    so gigs together, IMHO.
    
    And, you are most definitely and seriously correct on the 'eye-candy'!
    hooooo-boy!
    

    Well........................
    
    Where is my plane ticket?  I'll be there in a flash!  
    
    virginia

    Aloha, Folks
    
    Just got back from my vacation in Maui -- three unbelievable, glorious
    weeks.  So, now back to reality.  I did a quick read through the notes
    I missed while away.  What a great way to get caught up!  Believe it or
    not, I was in country music withdrawal.  I couldn't tune in a country
    station anywhere on the Valley Island.  I did, however, hear some good,
    interesting local music -- not all traditional Hawaiian.  To their
    credit, the radio stations there seem to boost the local talent.  
    
    So, I'm back and almost up to date.  I was interested in the comments
    about Willie's new album -- caught a bit of his FARM AID VI show on
    TNN.  Heard some good stuff.  
    
    Well, got to get to some real work -- yuck....
    
    Aloha,
    --Terri

    Snagged two free tickets to the Diamond Rio show at the Avalon next
    week!

    Oh yeah?  Well have fun at the concert.
    
    Welcome back from your vacation!
    
    I never go to listen to my Suzy Boggus CD but I did get the new Cathy
    Metea (sp?) CD on Saturday and listened to a few songs from it last
    night.  I like the general feel of the CD.
    
    Virginia

    Yes, welcome back (fortunately, I still have my vacation ahead of me -
    Fan Fair and and a trip up the east coast to Philadelphia...).
    
    Virginia,
    did you ever get to see Great Plains? What happened to that concert?
    
    And we all want a review of the Diamond Rio concert!
    
    Rose,
    anything new on the GB/Kiss thing?
    
    By the way, I think this is the second most frequented topic in music
    (let's make it no.1!).
    
    Tom.
    P.S.: The spelling is Kathy Mattea...

  Just thought I'd mention, the Buck Owens 3-CD box set Rhino did (overseen
  by Owens himself) is exceeding my expectations.  Great stuff.  Buck Owens
  and guitarist Don Rich were quite a team.    - Jay

    Jay,
    
    Is Buck retiring?  I thought I saw a blurb that said he was on some
    king off farewell tour, but I didn't catch the whole thing.  

    Thanks Tom.
    
    I never could spell worth a darn.
    
    I didn't make it to the concert.  I ended up in Chino the night of the
    concert, moving my horses and repairing fences.  
    
    And I too want to hear about Diamond Rio too.
    
    Virginia

>    Is Buck retiring?  I thought I saw a blurb that said he was on some
>    king off farewell tour, but I didn't catch the whole thing.  

  Sorry, don't know.  Haven't closely followed his career.  The booklet from
  the Rhino box notes that Buck Owens was kind of in de-facto retirement for
  most of the 80s, until Dwight Yoakam revived his style & started dropping
  his name all over the place; then Owens & Yoakam did a remake of "Streets
  of Bakersfield" in '88 that went #1.  My impression was, Owens is dabbling
  these days, basically doing whatever (whenever) he wants.   JBC

    Hi all!
    
    I just recieved my shipment from Columbia house.  I ordered 3 CD's.
    
    George Strait - Pure Country
    
    I loved the movie and the CD is great!  I listened to it twice with the
    volume cranked up.  Oh well, I guess the neighbors can say they have
    been cultured now.
    
    Billy Dean - Young Man
    
    Most of the songs on this CD have already made it big on the radio so
    it was no surprise to me.  I don't regret buying it at all.
    
    Southern Pacific - Greatest Hits (I think)
    
    This CD took me back a few years and I should have brought it with so I
    could list what songs were on it.  Most of the songs were from quite a
    few years back and took me to some fond memories of when I first
    started dancing and a few of my old loves from a place I used to go to
    alot.  
    
    Virginia

    I was wondering if anyone has Joe Diffie's (sp?) new album and if so if
    they could post the players, particularly the drummer(s) here. Saw him
    on the Tonight show and I think I recognized the drummer as a former
    associate of mine.

    Thanks,

    Ron

    Virginia,
    Could you please elaborate a little more on 'Young Man'. I only know 2
    songs of the album. The first one I can't remember the title now was
    Billy Deans first single ever (wore a blue sweater in the video) and it
    didn't really blow me away. But the other one is one of the most
    beautiful ones I know (Somewhere in My Broken Heart) and if the CD
    contains more songs like that I would consider buying it myself.
    I wasn't too enthused by his current album 'Fire In the Dark' which
    holds a great blues title but the rest is just middle of the road,
    rather boring than exciting. 'Billy Dean' (the 2nd album definitely
    is better).
    
    I also liked Southern Pacific a lot and it's too bad they broke up
    (Kurt Howell is going rock now). I think the a-cappella 'I Go to Pieces'
    is awesome, also 'Trail of Tears' has something to say (the American
    Indian).
    
    Anyone to help me on a phrasing? There is an old album cut by Gary
    Morris (around 85 on his 'faded blue' album, regretfully it never came
    out as a CD) which holds a beautiful, sad ballad about feeling lonely
    in search of someone; it's titled ...tonight I feel like...'Dragging 
    the Lake for the Moon'. Can anyone explain that line to me (maybe no
    one can, and you just have to feel it...???).
    
    Tom.

    One more,
    I was reading WYNNONA had a new song out ('Tell My Why' or somethng).
    Anyone heard it, or plans for a new album...?
    Tom.

    
    
    Tom,
    
     No, I haven't heard anything else about GB/Kiss, but as soon as I do
    I'll be sure to post it OK..
    
    Jay,
    
     I remember hearing that Buck Owens is supposed to be doing a big
    concert on TNN I think on Saturday night, but don't quote me on this.
    As far as his retiring I believe this could be the ending concert,
    again I can't be certain.
    
    Virginia,
    
     How are the horses doing?? Sounds like you've been very busy.
    
     I have a quick question?? My brother is into horse racing/buggy style
    pacers. His horse is apparently having some problems with it's front
    legs. I'm considering buying this horse, however Ed tells me that as
    it's a pacer used only for buggy/cart racing it would be very hard/long
    process to train the horse for western riding. Does anyone have any
    imput on this i.e. how long (estimate), can it actually be done?? whats
    involved??.
    
     I don't remember evey hearing of the group Southern Pacific, can you
    let me know what some of there songs are???
    
    Last but not least I received my cd's the other day from Columbia, and
    next months issue will be Tanya Tucker. Love here tune Sparrows in a
    Hurricane. As well I have been listening to my George Strait cd now
    nonstop. Everyone tells me that it might be time for something else as
    it's all they here, so I went out and purchased a very good set of
    earphones, now all they can hear is me singing along with George. I
    think they prefer the cd, Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!.. Oh well..
    
     Oh one final question,
    
    Have any of you heard of the group Tracy Prescott and Lonesome Daddy??
    There new tune which Tracey wrote herself is I believe called "What Do
    You Care", it's a nice tune. I found out the other day that before I
    moved back into the city, they only lived about 15 minutes from me, I
    think thats great.
    
     Well gotta go for now, talk atcha
    
    
     Rose..
    

    Southern Pacific came out around 86 and it was made up by 5 guys who
    have come from different bands (such as CCR), and their brand of 
    music was a genuine country-rock sound.
    They had out 4 albums (plus a GH collection), but unfortunately they broke
    up in 89.
    They had a number of hits and great songs, among them:
    'Thing About You'(with Emmilou Harris), 'Reno Bound', 'Perfect
    Stranger', 'A Girl Like Emmilou', 'New Shade Of Blue', 'Honey I Dare
    You', 'Midnight Hwy', 'Time's Up' and 'Anyway the Wind Blows' (from a
    Clint Eastwood movie).
    I really liked their music.
    Tom.

    Hi, Folks--
    
    Re: .328 Tom, I too was going to ask if anyone had heard Wynnona's new
    CD.  I have heard the first release on the radio, and liked it.  So,
    I'm wondering about the rest of the album.  I really liked her first. 
    Thought it was a great solo debut.  Just received Kathy Mattea's CD,
    "Lonesome Standard Time," but haven't had a chance to listen to it.
    
    I know this is off the Country Music topic, but I was able to get a
    couple of tickets to the Carole King concert at Brandeis up here in
    Boston.  I'm thrilled to have the opportunity to see her perform.  Has
    anyone heard her new album?  I understand it is in the same league as
    her "Tapestry" album as far as quality of her writing, etc.
    
    Back to country -- I just heard about the Diamond Rio show up here.  Is
    it true that you can only get "free" tickets now?  They sold out within
    hours?  Or, were there no sales, just radio give aways?  I'd love to
    see them.  I've liked the songs I've heard on the radio, especially the
    one about Norma Jean Reilly -- it's so upbeat.
    
    Talk to y'all soon.
    --Terri

    Terri,
    
    True about the tix to Diamond Rio: all gone, since they were snapped up
    by WCLB to hand out, either via a lucky phone call to the station when
    they play a DR tune, or by standing in line at one of the places they
    mention to (hopefully) get a pair.  I got mine the second way and it
    was surprisingly painless.

    Re: .332
    I suppose, then, that you have someone to go with....If not....
    
    Just kidding (maybe not) Have a great time.  Tell us about it on
    Tuesday.
    
    --Terri

    Hi all.
    
    Rose, 
    
    It is hard to bring a pacer around.  They are trained to pace only.  I
    have ridden on that was trained to ride western.  Umm, maybe you should
    try your question in NOTED::EQUITATION.  
    
    Most of the songs on the Southern Pacific CD were mentioned a few notes
    ago.  
    
    Virginia

    No Joe Diffie fans out there or did I just grossly misrepresent his
    name? The tune he did on TV, BTW, was pretty good. Honky Tonk Attitude I
    think it was. He had the house rockin. Still trying to find out who
    played drums on the new (maybe only) album.

    Is there another conference for just country music?

    Thanks,

    Ron

    Hi Ron,
    I am not really a Joe Diffie fan, but I happened to see last years
    Richard Petty concert in Atlanta (on video) and Joe Diffie did a good
    show there. The song that stuck in my mind was the aformentined 'Honky
    Tonk Attitude' (he got the dome on its feet with that one...).
    Unfortunately I don't have any of his 2 albums (so can't look up the
    drummer). His current album is called 'Regular Joe', but there is
    supposed to be a new one out sometime in May...
    Tom
    P.S.: This is the one and only country music conference!

    Thanks Tom,

    Maybe I'll pester a DJ or sumething. I 'spose I could buy the album but
    I don't normally do that on the basis of hearing one good tune (although
    the first Vince Gill album I bought was exactly under those conditions).
    
    --Ron

    I like Joe Diffie (Or how ever it's spelled)  I just haven't bought a
    CD by him yet.  I do like his song, Honky Tonk Attitude.
    
    Now, Vince Gill is a great artist!  I buy everything of his that comes
    out. 
    
    Virginia

    Does anyone know if there's a Jerry Reed compilation/collection
    /anthology... available on CD?  I know there's one with Chet Atkins, but
    it didn't really appeal to me.
    
    I'm specifically looking for something in CD format that contains the
    tunes; Alligator Bait, East Bound and Down and When You're Hot You're
    Hot.
    
    Any ideas folks?
    
    Lemme know!
    
    Tim
    

    I got to Aavalon around 7:15pm for an 8:00pm show.  Avalon's straight
    across the street from Fenway Park, home of the Red Sox, so I got to
    hear the Star Spangled Banner and gawk at the hotdog and souvenir
    vendors while standing in line.
    
    The line moved ahead steadily and within 15 minutes I was inside
    Avalon.  It's a dance club on weekends: sunken main floor, seats around
    three sides backed by bars, plus a baclony that ran across the back.  A
    stage at one end of the room.
    
    The place was *jammed* with cowboy hats, 'Garth' shirts, and
    two-steppers circling the floor.  About 8:15 the opening act came on,
    but I could not understand their name when announced and, unbelievably, 
    the band never mentioned its name.  Okay band, not memorable.
    
    After their set, the WCLB crew (the radio station that sponsored the
    show) introduced their staff to the audience, since 'CLB has only been
    on the air about three months.  The biggest cheer went up for Officer
    Bill, who does the traffic stuff.
    
    Around 8:55, DR hit the stage, opening with 'Meet In The Middle'.  The
    sound was superb ( Scorpio Sound from Billerica, Mass ).  DR basically
    played all their hits, including my current fave, 'Oh Me Oh My'...that
    one really tore the place up!  'Nowhere Bound' and 'Mirror Mirror' are
    another couple of tunes that fired up the crowd.
    
    The keyobard player (who wrote Norma Jean Reilly, BTW) opened one tune
    with a stunning display of wailing on a keyboard.  No one danced, as
    all eyes were on the stage.  In one party of the show, they dropped
    into a bluegrass vein and did three or four numbers featuring banjo,
    mandolin, bass, and guitar. Great high country harmonies on these
    pieces.  
    
    Technically, DR is advanced: no guitar amps really on stage (two in the
    wings ), earpiece monitors ( which look like small hearing aids ), and
    most everything else just through the PA.  Made for a nice clean stage
    with plenty 'o room for band antics...which DR needed, 'cause they
    definitely jumped around.
    
    The woman in the group I went with kept arguing who was better looking:
    the keys player or the guitarist! 
    
    The guitar player is a phenom!  I play guitar in a band, so I was
    particularly interested in his technique: I think he uses a 'B-bender',
    a device to help a conventional guitar to sound like a pedal steel, but
    I couldn't see evidence of this.  Can anyone shed light?  He basically
    made me want to burn my Telecaster...
    
    In summary, a superb band, obviously well rehearsed and road tough. 
    Avalon was a fine spot to see them in.
    
    DR played about an hour, did a one song encore, followed by the Avalon
    folks bringing up the house lights and music, even though the crowd was
    still going nuts. 

    Thanks for the great DR review; wish I could have been there...
    
    Tim,
    I haven't heard of a Jerry Reed compilation, yet. Maybe someone else
    ran across something like it. Unfortunately there aren't too many
    box-sets out in country. None for Waylon, none for Willie, ...
    
    The only really good one I got is the Bocephus Box (Hank Williams Jr.).
    But to enjoy it I guess you shouldn't mind crossing musical boundaries
    (to rock and blues). If you like that (such as I do) that's a great
    compilation with quite a few unreleased album take-offs and live
    performances never heard before (it goes from Hanks own 'Stoned at the
    Jukebox' to Fats Wallers 'Ain't Misbehaviour' to the Stones 'Honky Tonk
    Woman' to Muddy Waters 'Mannish Boy' back to his fathers 'Kawliga').
    Actually there are two sets out, one covering the early years and the
    other one covering 79 to 92...
    Tom

    
    Thanks Tom.
    
    I'm just using this wonderful tool to get he word out... hopefully 
    someone will come across a disc that contains those tunes.  
    
    As far as country box sets, there will be many more coming out.  Of that,
    you can be sure.
    
    Regards,
    
    Tim 

    Hi Ya all!
    
    Last night I saw a promo for the ACMA's coming up soon.  Didn't we just
    see this awards show?  Anyhoo, it is supposed to be ALL LIVE!  Should
    we start our own ballot casting here and see who is right?  I right now
    don't have any particular picks but I'm sure some of you out there do.
    
    Virginia

  It is surprising about the lack of contemporary country boxes.
  On the bright side, if you're into pre-70s commercial country styles,
  there are boxed sets out for:
                            Jimmie Rodgers (Bear Family, expensive)
                            Bob Wills (Rhino)
                            Hank Williams Sr. (Polydor)
                            Hank Snow (expensive, Bear Family I think)
                            Johnny Cash (CBS)
                            Marty Robbins (CBS)
                            Bill Monroe (CBS)
                            Patsy Cline (forget - Rhino?)
                            Buck Owens (Rhino)
                            Tammy Wynette (Epic)
                            Lefty Frizzell (Bear Family)
                            Don Gibson (Bear Family?)
                            ... etc.     - Jay

    Just to make sure:
    CMA = Country Music Association giving out awards in Oct. in LA on
          national tv;
    ACM = Academy of Country Music giving out awards in ???Mai??? in
          ???Nashville??? on ???national tv???
    Then there are American Music Awards and the Grammies.
    All of the above are industry-awards.
    The only big fan-voted awards are Music City News Awards taking place
    during Fan Fair week (beginning of June) in Nashville. People vote thru
    the Music City News magazine and the awards show gets televised on TNN.
    
    Any more info on the ACM? Do you remember any nominees? If I knew what
    US country radio plays (i.e. considers hot) I might suggest a few
    winners; still that may be very different from who >I< would like to
    see a winner.
    
    I guess awards may have a major impact on an artists career (at least
    for a while), but after all isn't it concert and album sales that
    matter in the end? People such as Earl Thomas Conley, Eddy Raven, Steve
    Wariner, Conway Twitty, Sawyer Brown, Exile, Restless Heart put out
    some of the most exciting (and popular) music of the 80s but they never
    got any awards for it...
    
    So I leave that up to you guys!
    
    Tom.

    The awards will be next week Tuesday I think and are being held in
    Hollywood.  A friend of mine has tickets to a concert being held after
    the awards show.  Alot of the people from the awards show will be
    preforming live at the Dorathy Chandler Pavillion.  
    
    It also seems that Garth Brooks and Clint Black (and others) Will be
    making a guest appearance at the Crazy Horse sometime this week before
    the show.  This is all second hand information so please dont shoot the
    messenger.
    
    Virginia

    Can any one help me find a song by Randy Travis. 
    I was clicking channels on the tube and ran into a show called
    "Matlock" (I think) and Randy Travis was sitting on a swing on the
    front porch of a house singing a sond about somebody who has to be
    the life of the party or something to that affect. I have alot of His
    CD's but didn't remember ever hearing this one before.
    
    Any body know this one?   Thanks, Jim

    Hi, All--
    
    The awards being held Tuesday night, I believe are voted on by the
    fans.  I was watching TNN the other day -- finally saw the "Romeo"
    video -- and they flashed the phone numbers to call to vote for
    Collaboration of the Year.  Some of the nominees in that category were: 
    Mary-Chapin Carpenter and Joe Diffie; Clint Black and Roy Rogers;
    Travis Tritt and Marty Stuart.  There were two others that I don't
    recall.  I also heard this morning that Lorrie Morgan is nominated for
    Female Vocalist for "Watch Me."  My guess is that most nominees in
    whatever categories are pretty predictable, and the winners will be
    too, since the fans are voting.
    
    Did anyone catch the two-hour special last night, "Women of Country?" 
    I thoroughly enjoyed it.  There was commentary by various artists from
    various eras in Country Music.  This was interspresed with "live"
    performances by some of today's hottest artists.  I was most impressed
    that the show opened and closed with Mary-Chapin Carpenter songs
    backed-up by a star-studded "chorus"  The opener was "He Thinks He'll
    Keep Her" with Kathy Mattea, Suzy Boggus, Trisha Yearwood, Pam Tillis,
    and a few others singing back-up.  The closer, "The Hard Way"  had
    Wynnona, Kathy Mattea, Tammy Wynnette, Suzy Boggus, Trisha Yearwood and
    EmmyLou Harris sharing lead vocals with M-C.  Then, the rest of the
    folks who appeared during the show walked out to join in the final
    choruses of the song.  What a thrill it must have been for M-C to see
    such legends as Kitty Wells, The Carter Sisters, Loretta Lynn, Tammy
    Wynette, Patsy Montana, etc. singing her composition.  
    
    Anyone else catch that show?  I thought it was just terrific.
    
    Talk to y'all later.  
    --Terri

    Yeah, Terri, I had it on while practicing scales on guitar.  I thought
    they did a great job of encapsulating the lineage of women in country
    music.  I never knew what part Patsy Montana played, or Norma Jean,
    or some of the other lesser known ladies, until last night.  Nice
    tribute to the work these women put in to develop country music.
    
    The band: ahhh! Superb players, with at least Mark O'Connor and Jerry
    Douglas from the American Music Workshop band.  Plus, a great mix.
    
    One nit is I would have preferred to see each of the ladies sing
    something besides their hits, but I can understand why.

>    Anyone else catch that show?  I thought it was just terrific.
    
  I caught the last half of "Women of Country", and thought it was great.
  Esp. useful for me, since I'm not caught up with singer/songwriters of
  contemporary country -- not having cable TV in my house, it was good to
  see more of those I'd only seen a little of.

  I liked the comment from Carlene Carter about how today's country fans may
  like rap or alternative rock, "but need a heartstring pulled now & then;
  that's what we're here for...".   - Jay

    Wonderful show.  I was very impressed with the content of the corus. 
    It must have been fun for them to have a `gals night out' and just have
    a good time.  That is what it looked like to me.  I used to play guitar
    many moons ago and I remember jam sessions at a local club that turned
    out to be like that.  Just a bunch of us palying and singing and trying
    new things.  I only caught the first half.  Did anyone tape the show? 
    I would like a copy if they did.  My VCR is on the fritz and I didn't
    even get to tape the closer for Quantum Leap either.
    
    
    Virginia

    on another note, WCDJ (Boston 96.9) is now country!  They'll be 
    playing commercial free until July 1.  Looks like WCLB (105.7)
    has some competition. 
    
    Now for something completely different...
    Do any of you subscribe to a magazine that specializes in country
    music, personalities, music reviews, etc.  
    What (in your opinion) is the best magazine around?
    
    Any comments welcome....kath

>    Do any of you subscribe to a magazine that specializes in country
>    music, personalities, music reviews, etc.  
>    What (in your opinion) is the best magazine around?

  I nominate "Country Music", for the quality of the music reviews (by Peter
  Guralnick, John Morthland, etc.) plus the occasional guest article by the
  likes of Willie Nelson (who wrote an article about Bob Wills), Marty
  Stuart, etc.

  IMO "Country Music" is to country music what "Living Blues" is to blues,
  "Down Beat" or "Jazz Times" is to jazz, and so on.    - Jay

re: .349

>    The band: ahhh! Superb players, with at least Mark O'Connor and Jerry
>    Douglas from the American Music Workshop band.  Plus, a great mix.
    
It *was* the American Music Shop band.  They were listed in the credits
at the end.  I kind of suspected it early on when I saw Mark O'Connor
on fiddle and mandolin and Harry Stinson on drums.  Harry Stinson is
probably my current favorite drummer.

-Hal

	*Another* country station!?  It never rains but it pours!  Wow,
	now all 4 of my buttons are set...8^)

	I thought last nite's programme was great, btw.  

    re 352.
    I agree that Country Music Magazine is probably the best mag on country
    with well written articles (Michael Bane!) and record reviews which
    even dare to doubt the qualitiy of an album (unlike a 'Music City News'
    which never critizes a record and the revies of which barely hold more
    than 20 lines anyways). The only letdown is, that CMM comes out only
    ONCE every 2 months.
    'Country America' is one of the big magazines (I think top 30 US) but
    it's only partly on music and also features country cooking, fashion,
    nature, travel, history and the like.
    'Country Song Roundup' has about half of it dedicated to song lyrics,
    the other half is features, record reviews, etc. It is mostly black and
    white.
    'Music City News' is all color but most of its articles are not too
    much in depth but rather short and flashy (IMO).
    'Music Row' is an industry magazine which has excellent record reviews
    (especially singles as it is directed towards djs and industry people)
    and current news on who's recording what, who's producing who,
    independent chart, interviews with artists, producers and musicians etc.
    Unfortunately this one seems to be available in Nashville only.
    There is one or two other ones which i can't remember right away...
    
    By the way, talking media: How many of you out there get TNN or CMT,
    respectively could if you wanted?
    
    Tom.

    
    TNN is available in the central Maryland cable service. I get it and
    really enjoy the programming. Nashville Now is one of the better shows
    as is The Texas Connection. Crook and Chase is another good show, and
    Lorriann Crook is eye-candy ;')	
    	I also try and catch Austin City Limits on the PBS stations when I
    can.
    
    			fred deady

I am trying to find a Carter Family anthology on cd.  I called a local record
store that specializes in country music last September; they told me there's
nothing available in Canada, and my best bet was a cd in the MCA "Hall Of Fame"
series, available in the U.S.  I asked them to order me a copy.  They did so, 
but it still hasn't come in any of their shipments from their American 
distributor.

I'd like to explore alternative ways of getting hold of this.  Are Carter
Family cds this hard to come by in th U.S.?  Can anyone suggest a good
mail-order source?

-Stephen

    There was a show on chanel 4 (california) last night.  I think it was
    "Spotlight on Country"  Anyhoo, the show seemed to be about the up and
    comming award nominees.  There were a few personal interviews with some
    of the nominees.  One was with Tracy Lawrence.  He had been attacked
    and shot 5 times in Nashville (On the same night).  I thought that was
    very interesting because I had never even known he had been attacked. 
    Did anyone else catch the show last night?
    
    Virginia
    
    ps. I get TNN and love the motorsports!
    
    

>                           -< Carter Family on cd? >-

  I've spotted that MCA disk in the Boston-area of the US; that whole series
  seems pretty readily available.  (Includes disks for Loretta Lynn, Bill
  Monroe, others who originally recorded on Decca or MCA.)  I would think
  any mail-order outfit that stocks major labels -- Noteworthy Music in NH?
  -- would have the whole "Hall of Fame" series (?).

  The outfit that really needs to do right by the Carter Family on CD is
  <groan>  RCA, which is now part of BMG.  The Decca/MCA stuff is fine, but
  it's the Camden/Victor/RCA stuff that will yield a more definitive
  retrospective.

  No sign of when this is going to happen.  RCA's Canadian and European arms
  used to keep this material in print when RCA-US wouldn't.  The Jimmie
  Rodgers material from Victor is widely available, so it's hard to figure
  what's keeping the Carter Family stuff.
  
  In semi-related news, RCA/BMG has now put out a Dolly Parton box, the 2-CD
  "Dolly Parton: The RCA Years, 1967-1986".  The tracks look better chosen
  than the recent Chet Atkins box they did.   - Jay

    Just got back from my local TICKETMASTER (ripoff artists) with my
    "Black & Wy" tix.  I was the seventh person in line -- two of which
    wanted Barry Manilow tix -- and ended up in one of the back sections in
    row P.  NOT GOOD!  It seems one (or both) of the new country radio
    stations has (have) bought up huge blocks of tickets for promos,
    advertisers, etc.  Once again, the loyal fans get the short end.  Is
    this typical around the country, or just unique to Boston/New England?
    
    --Terri

    
    
    Does anybody know who sings this song,
    
    the base of the song is this guy singing about a breakup with a girl
    and they think thats bad but he says thats good cause now he can meet
    this other girl, and it goes on....
    
    I think the name of the song is "Whats good, whats bad, it's hard to
    say"..........
    
    The video for the song is a bunch of guys sitting around a campfire
    and the singer is singing/telling the story.....
    
    
                                               Thanks in advance....
    
    
                                                         Mark...

    Heya All!
    
    Terri,
    
    It seems to me that every time I have gotten free tickets from the
    radio stations in this area they were in the nosebleeding, binockusing,
    so far from the bathroom that is takes you and hour to get back to you
    seats section.  When I have gotten tickets from Ticket Master I always
    seem to get decent seats.  I do know for some of the artists that the
    fan club members get the front section.  I don't think that is fair. 
    Come on, most of those people get to see these people everywhere they
    go.
    
    Mark,
    
    I have no idea what song you are talking about.  It does sound like the
    typical plight of the cowboy lover tho.
    
    Virginia

  You're going to consider this no help at all, but...
  
  RCA-Japan has just released the complete Carter Family recordings from
  1927-1941; 7 CDs worth.  This is the prime stuff (IMO).

  However, the MCA collection of later highlights should stand you in good
  stead until a more affordable early compilation comes along.   - Jay

                      <<< Note 105.364 by VERGA::CLARK >>>

>  RCA-Japan has just released the complete Carter Family recordings from
>  1927-1941; 7 CDs worth.  This is the prime stuff (IMO).

Jay, Does that mean released in Japan?  Our 25th anniversary is coming up
and my wife would rather have the complete Carters than anything silver - 
honest.

Bob

    Hi Mark,
    I've seen the video you are talking about and I think it's really neat
    how they did it. No special effects, just a bunch of guys sitting
    around the campfire and the singer telling the story about this girl.
    And every verse ends with something that makes the other guys feel sorry
    (like, she got left alone) and go ,'That's bad'; but instead the singer
    goes, 'No that's good, because...(that way I got to meet her)'. Really
    nice! And I think Joe Diffie does a cameo on the video.
    I don't remember whether the song is titled 'That's Good' or 'That's
    Bad' (or maybe both), but the singer is TIM MENSY (CD: This Ol'
    Heart???).
    
    I was reading in billboard on the weekend that Wynonna's new CD is
    supposed to be out today (May 12th). First single, prereleased, was
    'Tell Me Why'.
    Terri,
    when's your Black&Wy concert? Be sure to give a review!
    
    This year there are more major-arena country acts on the road than ever
    before and the industry believes there is still potential out there to
    increase the music's popularity. Still they have to be careful not to
    overbook and (thus burn out) a certain area as the 'average country
    fan' couldn't afford more than one concert a month.
    The most successful touring act last year was (of course) Garth. He did
    79 shows, selling out every single one of them (within...) which made
    over 1 million to see his concerts!
    
    Tom.

    Gidday All,
    
       Well now let me see, 
    			Whats good, whats bad, sometimes it's hard say!!
       Hey I know that one, it's right on the tip of my tongue. For some
    reason Menzie, or Macenzie keeps coming to mind, I think the actual
    name of the tune is "Ah Man Thats Good".
    
       Any of you happen to catch the ACMA awards last night, I was only
    able to catch bits and pieces of it. Looks like Brooks and Dune cleaned
    house with there tunes "Working Man and Boots Scoot "n" Boogie". As
    well I noticed that Patty Loveless and Doug Stone dii a tribute to
    Conway Twitty and Loretta Lynn, as well as Goerge Jones honored.
    
      Ok a Couple of questions for ya.  Marty Stewart is giving a concert
    here which I'd like to attend, The tickets are on sale now and the
    concert will be in July. Has anyone seem Marty in concert?? How are his
    performances??. As well, Goeorge Jones is giving a concert in August
    and I know he would give a great concert (as long as he shows up), I
    hear he nows makes it to all his bookings.
    
     Well gotta go, be talkin atcha
    
    Rose
    

    Hey Rose!
    
    I did watch the awards last night.  All 3 hours of it.  Anyway, did you
    see that George Strait won an award for his movie `Pure Country'?  
    The news people were saying that will Brooks and Dunn shutting out
    Travis Tritt and Billy Ray that the two called a truce.  I bet if
    either one had won something that there would have been some nasty
    comments said.  The report also said that niether Tritt Or Bill Ray
    showed up at the press party after the show.  Sore loosers?  It was a
    good show and the performances were great.
    
    I may be going to the concert tonight in Hollywood with all the winners
    performing live!  I will have a full report if I do go. (The person
    with the tickets is waiting to see if his date stands him up for the
    third time)
    
    See ya in the Funnies!
    
    Virginia

    Hi Rose,
    Have you been gone to Branson or is that still coming up?
    
    I have seen Marty Stuart and Travis Tritt last year in Pittsburgh on
    their famous 'No Hats Tour' and that concert was one of the best I've ever
    seen. I would definitely recommend seeing Marty, -unless you don't care
    for a rocking good time. Just be ready for some hot Hillbilly Rock...
    
    So Garth didn't win anything on the awards?
    Who got the group award? Diamond Rio?
    
    Tom.

    
    re: 367
    
              Thanks tom, I thought it was great the way the song was
    written and the video fits it.....
    
    
                                                         Mark...

    Umm, Garth won Entainer of the year again.  I know Diamond Rio won
    something but just can't remember what.  Brooks and Dunn took 3 or 4 I
    know that for sure.
    
    I never made it to the concert last night.  I'm sure he will call me to
    let me know how it was and I will give a second hand report.
    
    Have a good one Ya all.
    
    Virginia

    Re: .352
    
    For those who do some guitar pickin' yourselves, the publishers of
    Guitar World magazine have started up a bimonthly magazine called
    Country Guitar, with interviews, instructional columns and song
    transcriptions.
    
    							Brian

    Two songs that have been nagging at me since I heard them recently on
    the radio:
    
    "Men" Forrester Sisters?  This one is too cool...
    
    "What Part of No Don't You Understand?" Laurie Morgan?  This one had me
    rollin'... 
    
    Still bumming over how much "New Country" is typical pop B.S.  Man, how
    bout Hank, George and Merle once in a while, or at least someone who
    actually heard a record by these guys once!!!!!
    
    						Brian

re: .374

>    Two songs that have been nagging at me since I heard them recently on
>    the radio:
>    
>    "Men" Forrester Sisters?  This one is too cool...
    
Wow, that one's a year or so old.  I'm surprised that station is allowed
to play it! :-)

>    Still bumming over how much "New Country" is typical pop B.S.  Man, how
>    bout Hank, George and Merle once in a while, or at least someone who
>    actually heard a record by these guys once!!!!!
    
Yeah, the playlists of most of the modern country stations are as tightly
controlled as Top-40 radio.  Rarely, if ever, will you hear anything old.
Once in a blue moon you might hear George (although it will always be
"He Stopped Loving Her Today") or Merle, but you will *never* hear Hank
on the radio nowadays, just his obnoxious son.

Boy, do I sound like an old coot!  Back when *I* was a boy, we used to
have to walk six miles to school, uphill both ways... :-)

-Hal

    re: .374
    
    	"Men" by the Forrester Sisters is pretty funny. I used to sing it
    once in awhile to a very predictable crowd that I knew it would go over
    well with. But, I really don't care for the message of the song. It's a
    bit overboard with men bashing. Just can't agree - 
    
    	"What part of No".... by Lorrie Morgan - now THAT ONE!!! Quite a
    different story!!!  I had a steel player call me up and without saying
    one thing else, like who was calling etc. tell me that I should sing
    that song! Was funny! Especially when he finally identified himself.
    Actually, was a very fitting comment comming from him!
    
    I sure do wish we could hear some of the older stuff though once
    inawhile. I'm so sick of going to a country place and hearing
    countrified DISCO AND FUNK! Hey gang, like you're not onto something
    new, that stuff is from the 70's with a steel and a twang only.! Yeah,
    I have an attitude. I like some of the newer country songs that
    resemble country, but I could do without the real disco/funk stuff. I
    guess it is what sells now though. Eventually, it will come around to
    the real stuff again. All things eventually do come full circle. 
    
    Actually, the last 3 songs on that Lorrie Morgan tape, IMO only are 
    really very good. And the whole tape is PURPLE! Very cool. 
    1. What part of No 2. Leave me like this 3. Someone to call me
    darling..   ** The last being my favorite. A waltz of course. A real
    dance! Watch out, here comes the line dancers to bash me!!!  Cie la
    vie!
    
    As for me, I'll stay with my rather eclectic music interests, but I'll
    never convert to the stuff they are labeling country that IMO, simply
    isn't...
    
    

    My faithfull friend that went to the concert last night finally called.
    
    It turns out that the concert was, Salute To Song Writers.  Johny Cash,
    Roger Miller, Buck Owens and Hank Cockron were honered by Ray Charles,
    Joe Diffie, Vince Gill, Colen Ray, Travis Tritt, Trisha Yearwood and
    Tracy Lawrence.
    
    My friend sat in the `nose bleed' section but had binoculars and said
    it was a good show.  One comment he made was that Tracy Lawrence sang
    alot of Hank Cockren's songs that George Strait has recorded.
    
    RE: last few - You don't like it...........don't listen to it.
    
    Virginia (who says everything in fun of course)
    
    

    Wow, there's a new one on me: Hank Cockron.  Who is this person?

    He is a song writer that was honored at the concert last night.  From
    what I understand he wrote must of George Straits hits.  This is all
    second hand information as he told me over the phone.  He was reading
    from the program tho.
    
    Virginia

    I don't really get it! Alan Jackson, Clint Black, Sammy Kershaw,
    Diamond Rio, Brooks&Dunn = disco/funk/pop ???
    Did you guys ever listen to country radio in the early 80s with the
    likes of Eddie Rabbit, Oaks ('Elvira'), Kenny Rogers ('We've Got
    Tonight'), Ronnie Milsap, disco queen Dolly? Times when Ricky Skaggs
    and John Anderson were considered outlaws in the mainstream-sense?
    
    Besides do you dare to define country music? To me it is American music
    and simply the most diverse genre there is. I like different kinds of
    music but most of all country, because it's all in there and actually I
    don't care what it is labeled.
    
    Sometimes I wonder how my tastes go according to those of some country
    artists. Once in a while I hear a good song in pop/rock/... music that
    I like a lot (such as 'Graceland' by Paul Simon or 'Baker Street' by
    Gerry Rafferty) and I think of getting into it more and then what
    happens next, some country artist seems to like it as well and records
    it (such as Willie on his latest or Waylon on a pevius one).
    Ever heard 'Now That's Country' by Marty Stuart? He, grown up on
    bluegrass, uses rock and blues elements to explain what he considers
    country (which is lot more than just the music).
    After all it's the song that matters and if you don't care for it...
    (right, Virginia).
    
    Tom.
    
    P.S.: What would I give to get some of that disco/funk/pop (i.e.
    country) stuff on European radio, not even to mention TV...
    

    Gee Tom,
    
    My first reaction to all that was to say `Huh?'.  I can't tell if you
    are upset by the new country or you like it.  I know it is just your
    opinion but you really confused me.  Maybe it is because it's Friday
    and I just wanna get out of here.
    
    For me it isn't just the song that matters.  It's how the `music'
    effects me.  If I hear a new song and it just makes me wanna rock or
    cry or moves me in another emotional way I concider it to be a good
    song.  I hear alot more than just the words or the instruments, I
    `feel' a song.  It's hard to explain, I used to write music for a
    friends band a long time ago.  I quit because no one could sing and
    play the music the way I `felt' it.
    
    So, when a new song comes out and it feels right and has a good solid
    message I love it.  Just my opinion.
    
    Virginia
    
    ps Tom, I am not getting on you about your note.  I just didn't get the
    `feel' for what you were saying.
    
    

    P.S.
    
    I grew up on the Carpenters, Mammas and Pappas, Helen Reddy, Benny
    Goodman.........
    
    I have heard good music.
    
    V

    Let me jump back in and say that my only problem with country radio is
    that since country is not as prevalent on the airwaves as rock and roll
    (at least here in MA) what you get is invariably *top 40* country,
    which is sort of *by definition* going to contain a lot of stuff I
    won't like.  
    
    Now, if I want to listen to rock, I can listen to "alternative",
    "oldies", "classic rock", "dance", etc., etc.  Real cutting edge
    underground rock stuff is easily available on college stations, too. 
    In the Boston area, I have easy access to a variety of folk, blues,
    jazz, even esoteric stuff like reggae. But I don't have that breadth
    with country!
    
    Imagine how cool it would be to have a "country oldies" station that
    just played Lefty, Buck, George, Merle, Johnny and Hank, or an
    "alternative country" station that played the various cow-punk,
    rockabilly and Texan blues/swing/swamp bands, another specializing in
    bluegrass and western swing, etc., etc. in addition to the top 40
    country outlets.
    
    Pop has been part of the country scene for many years, an earlier reply
    mentioned Eddie Rabbit ("I Love A Rainy Night", oh gag me...wasn't he
    from Joisey?), well how about Jim Reeves and that whole
    "countrypolitan" sound from the 60s?  Nothing wrong with that, it's not
    my cup of tea and I don't turn on country radio to hear treacly ballads
    that would work just as well with Whitney Houston singing them instead
    of Dolly Parton, I turn it on because I want to hear some honky
    tonkin', s**t kickin' music.  And a waltz or two...  
    
    							Brian
    
    P.S. I used to play in bluegrass and C&W bands, and grew up with Hank
    and Lefty records my Dad had in the house, so I guess I'm biased
    towards the hard country sound.

  Yeah, it's not that there isn't good country music being made...
  
  1992 produced good new albums by Heather Myles, Marty Brown, Alison
  Krauss, Guy Clark, Iris Dement (and in more hybrid veins, Lucinda
  Williams, Lyle Lovett, ...), among many others I'm sure.  The first two in
  that list offer updated versions of honky tonk/Bakersfield styles.
  
  But I think little of the above-listed would have been heard on the new
  "top 40" country stations in Boston...  Widen those playlists.  - Jay

    
    How about Radney Foster, Chris Ledoux, Billy Dean, Patty Loveless,
    Kelly Willis? These artists have leaned (IMHO) toward "traditional"
    country music. I also do not mind some of the hillbilly-rock that has
    appeared recently eg. Billy Burnett, Kentucky Headhunters. Variety is
    the spice of life.
    
    		fred deady

    Virginia,
    I guess I was trying to say too many things at a time -which there was
    
    - if todays country radio gets called non-country I wonder what it 
    was called 10 years ago when it was much farther off whats tradionally
    been called country?
    
    - I think the rest of it was more or less about 'the song matters'. And
    what I was trying to get across was more or less what you were saying-
    if the song has the right feel I don't care what the style is or
    whether it uses enough steel and fiddle. I don't listen to country
    because it is COUNTRY but because I like a good song and IMO most of
    them are in COUNTRY. That's why I drift off to another format once in a
    while because of a good song.
    I am not putting down traditional country, I am not putting down
    contemporary country. I am glad we get the variety. To me that means
    that the song is central and you are free to use whatever arrangement
    it takes to get the feel across in the best way. 'Amarillo by Morning'
    is a great song and I don't think it would keep its feel with horns and
    synthesizers, 'I Tell It Like It Is' (T. Graham Brown) is a great song
    and I think it wouldn't have all the feel with fiddles on. It's all
    part of the song-atmosphere.
    If I may make a wish: let's keep it that way. And if you don't like
    some of it, don't listen to it, but don't take it as an argument to put
    country down, just because it offers MORE than your personal likes.
    
    I am glad we are past the times when you had to have a certain sound,
    look and lyrics to get country (radio) recognition (at least it's not
    as bad as it obviously used to be). Always reminds me of the song 'You
    Never Even Called Me By My Name' by David Allan Coe. It's a very
    cynical song about what country was/is supposed to be (only Merle
    Haggard, Waylon Jennings or Charley Pride can sing a country song, not
    a newcomer and if it hadn't the words 'drunk, train, pickup truck, mama,
    prison, rain' in there it wasn't country anyways; so he put together the
    perfect country&western song by using all those words: 'I was drunk the
    day I got out of prison and my mama picked me up in a truck in the
    rain...').
    Enough of that neverending discussion about what's country and what's
    not!
    
    Simply, keep it country (whatever that is...)
    Tom.
    
    P.S.: I once got a (souvenir) license plate that said:'There are only 2
    kinds of music: country & western!
    

re: .386

>    ... I am glad we get the variety. ...

The complaint some of us are making is that we *don't* get the variety
on modern country stations.
    
>                                   ... Always reminds me of the song 'You
>   Never Even Called Me By My Name' by David Allan Coe.

Ironically enough, that song was written by the late Steve Goodman, was
wasn't really a country singer or writer at all.

-Hal

    Tom,
    
    Thank you for clearing that up for me.  I just couldn't tell what you
    were trying to say. 
    
    I can say that I dont get alot of variety on the radio either.  There
    are some songs that just get too much air time and one ends up really
    hating the song.  I do get variety at the dance bar I go to.  They play
    all the top country hits but they also play alot of old rock (only
    after 11pm) and some pop.  I have a good time just rocking out every
    now and then.
    
    Virginia

    Hal,
    I know there are different people complaining about different things.
    Unfortunately I don't have any access to a US country radio station, so
    I can't really judge on that (when I was living in the US we had a
    station that DIDN'T play the variety it could, so you are absolutely
    right, on the other hand I discovered different stations on my travels
    that offered a good variety, some even specializing on golden country
    oldies; still I can't really say what it is like today).
    So when I talk about variety I talk about what is beiing categorized as
    COUNTRY; going to a record store checking the country section and
    finding T. Graham Brown next to Marty Brown next to Sawyer Brown.
    That's neat and that's what I would like to be kept. Unfortunately it
    may not all get played on the radio (shame!).
    
    Somebody mentioned radio formats within formats. Here in Europe we
    don't have any radio formats. Hard rock gets played back to back with
    jazz, with a talk show and news mixed in. That way you may get to hear 
    music you wouldn't if radio was formatted.
    But what really happens is that these stations here are mainly pop
    stations (pop top 40) where you get to hear Whitney or Leila K. all the
    time and something as exotic as cowboy music (=country) may get a
    midnite airply once a week. DJ tastes play another major role.
    So I suppose what happens on our level (unformatted radio doesn't give
    us enough variety) happens on yours as well (modern country radio
    doesn't give you enough variety).
    For that reason I have more or less quit listening to the radio and
    switched to tapes and CD's; that way I always get to hear my kind of
    country...
    
    You are also right about Steve Goodman; here in Europe you can still
    find that perception a lot and I think that's what was meant to be
    communicated.
    
    Tom.
    
    P.S.: Isn't this notes topic like formated radio? Some questions may
    get lost because there isn't really a subformat...???
     

    HI, FOLKS
    
    Did y'all think I had abandoned this conference?  Not a chance, it's
    just that real work has had to take precedence....
    
    I really don't want to get into the what is/isn't country foray.  As I
    said in my introductory note, I'm pretty new to all of this.  I can,
    however, state that I have very quickly tired of some of the "top 40"
    country kind of stuff.  Maybe my tastes are not so commercial, but my
    favorites don't seem to get too, too much airplay.  I'm not looking for
    the "old" country or what might be considered traditional; I'm just
    looking for more variety.  But, I guess I would say that about any top
    40- type format.  So much for not getting into the middle of it....
    
    The Boston-area Black & Wy show is August 19th-ish.  So, I have a while
    before limbering up my fingers to write a review for this audience.  I
    must warn you, however, that I pretty much just enjoy live music.  So,
    I'm probably not too terrific at writing reviews.  I generally think
    every show is great.\
    
    See you folks later,
    --Terri

    Hi Terri,
    I was reading that Wynonna and Clint Black have a duet single out which
    got an excellent review (something about '..bad goodbye..'??).
    It's not on the new Wynonna CD though which has been out for about 2
    weeks and which is called 'Tell Me Why'.
    
    Tom.

    Tom--
    
    I've heard the duet, and understand they've been performing it at their
    shows.  I'm not sure that I like it much.  There seems to be some
    awkward phrasing or something, especially when Wynnona joins in after
    Clint's lead.  Maybe it will grow on me.  I've heard it introduced by
    one DJ as "Clint Black sure knows how to write a beautiful song."  As I
    said, I'm not so sure about that...
    
    I do, however, like Wynonna's title cut, "Tell Me Why."  Very catchy. 
    I find myself humming it during the day, even if it wasn't the last
    song I heard before shutting off the car to come into work.
    
    Take care.  I'll keep you posted if there's any more news on the
    concert front...
    
    --Terri

    Hi All.
    
    I have heard the the song done by CB and Wy.  It grates on me a bit. 
    What I mean it I just can't get into the music of it.  It is a bit
    akward.  I still think that both have beautiful voices and handle the
    music very well.  
    
    As for variety on the radio, you must have some poor formats where you
    all are.  The two radio stations that I listen to here have great
    variety.  Must be another one of the perks to living in California I
    guess.
    
    Virginia

    A bunch of new CD releases:
    'Down the Road' by Larry Stewart (former Restless Heart leadsinger, a
                                      lot more traditional on this one)
    'Best Of' by Lacy J. Dalton (incl. 'Black Coffee' and a duet w.
                                 E.Rabbit)
    Other new ones the titles of which I can't recall:
    Tracy Bird, McBride And the Ride, The Remingtons, Charlie Daniels, Tim
    McGraw, Pearl River, Palomino Road, Cactus Bros., J. Brennon.
    
    Tom.

    Yo Tom,
    
    Another recommendation for 'Down The Road' by Larry Stewart.  My band
    is covering 'She's All Right Already' and it's a great tune.

    A few more country shows are headed New England way this year.  I have
    my Mary-Chapin Carpenter tix (I know the "purists" don't always
    categorize her as country), and my Black&Wy as I mentioned before. 
    But, I just learned that Kathy Mattea will be playing Worcester in
    early September.  Should I do it?  She's scheduled at Mechanics Hall
    which is a reasonably sized venue.  Has anyone seen Kathy in concert? 
    She's one of my faves and one of the reasons I started listening to
    country.
    
    Thanks in advance,
    --Terri
    

    Terri,
    
    
    I have only see Clint Black in concert but I'm sure if you like Kathy
    that much you should go to find out for yourself.  Also, I'm sure
    everyone here would love a report on each of the concerts you attend. 
    I haven't heard much for what is happening here in So. California yet.
    
    Virginia
    

    Regarding Kathy Mattea --- I saw her at a Car Show in Colorado 
    Springs about 3 years ago.  Her voice is as good live as it
    is on CD.  She has a great sound.  
    
    I didn't know who she was when I saw her at the car show.  But
    I became an *instant* fan after her performance.  
    
    I'm psyched that she's coming to Massachusetts!  How do you get
    tix to Mechanics Hall?
    
    Kath

    Re: .398
    
    Tickets to Mechanics Hall can be purchased at the M.T. Plante ticket
    agency, which is downstairs in the Mechanics Hall building on Main St.
    I don't have the number offhand, call directory assistance.
    
    I think TicketMaster is also handling the tickets for this and other
    FolkTree shows.
    
    							Brian

In case any of you haven't heard, Conway Twitty died over the weekend
(I think it was Saturday, but I'm not sure).

    Tell me about it!  I just got done watching the Preakness where a good
    horse broke down and had to be destroyed then I hear about Conway.   On
    top of all this I was sicker than a dog all day Sunday.
    
    Virginia

    My band fielded a lot of requests for Conway Twitty tunes at gigs this
    weekend: It's Only Make Believe got a lot of airtime.  Good songwriter
    in the traditional country style, IMHO.  Less inspiring as a performer,
    but I gotta give the guy a lot of credit for being out there, touring
    and gigging, at age 59(?).

    Don't forget Conway was also an early rocker..."Make Believe" was
    originally a rock hit, then he redid it as a duet with Loretta.  Come
    to think of it, he and Loretta are the first to come to mind when I
    think of duet acts.  Another great rocker Conway did was a rockabillied
    raveup version of "Mona Lisa" (yeah, the Nat King Cole tune).  
    
    I always dug Conway, good singer, wrote some good tunes over the years. 
    Makes you wonder when some of the other old guard members are gonna
    pack it in.  Jones, Haggard, Cash, etc. aren't young pups anymore.
    
    						   Brian

re: .402

>    ... Less inspiring as a performer,

Some would disagree with you.  In one of the obituaries this weekend was
a quote from Mel Tillis to the effect that Conway Twitty was a song's best
friend because he sang so well.  It's not common knowledge, but Mel Tillis
has written an awful lot of songs that were hits by singers other than
himself.

    Hi All,
    
        Sorry to have been out of function for so long, but work has kept
    me very busy. After going through it was pretty obvious that I'd
    definately need some reading time to catch up with all the reply's. 
    
        On Saturday a friend a I were hanging around together when I heard
    about Conway Twitty's passing. to say the least I was a little shocked,
    and thinking back I basically grew up with "Conway & Loretta", "George
    & Tammy", and "Porter & Dolly". He was a great performer and
    entertainer in every sence of the words. My friend asked who this
    person was (as she's a Rock fan and nothing but), and the when I told
    her I got a simple comment of "Oh Ya, Well OK". 
    
        I remember seeing a show on T.V. about a week or two ago inwhich 
    Garth Brooks was being interviewed, when asked about his being a Rock
    fan. Garth explained that there was one major difference between
    Country and Rock fans, in that Country fans are much more emotionally
    loyal towards entertainers and that those loyalty's stay for a long
    time. I think he's right, I believe Country fans do feel much closer to
    Country entertainers.
    
        I watched the Awards on TNN last night and Kitty Wells received 
    the Legendary Award for her contribution over the years to the music
    business and to the ladies of Country music. Boy I remember Kitty very
    well, a much deserved award.
    
    
    P.S. Sorry it's so long, Hope to get in here again soon.
    
    Hi there Virginia.
    
    Rose..
    
    country music, 

    Re:  Conway's passing
    
    Did I hear correctly that Conway Twitty has something like 50+ number 1
    hits during his career?  I am not, and wasn't, a big fan of that era in
    country music.  But, that string of hits is truly remarkable and
    legendary.  
    
    I, too, watched the Music City News awards last night.  However, I
    thought it started at 9 EDT.  So, I missed the first hour.  I tuned in
    just in time to see Reba sing "Fancy."  During her acceptance speech
    for Female Vocalist she commented that it had been a very emotional
    night.  I noticed during the standing ovation following "Fancy" that
    she was emotional then, too.  What happened during that first hour to
    cause such a response?  -- Thanks in advance...
    
    --Terri

    Hiya Rose!  
    
    How about a review of the show.  I missed it.
    
    I watched a short segmant on Conway last night.  It was siad that
    Loretta was at the hospital with her husband who was recovering from
    heart surgery.  She saw Conway and took his hand and said that he was
    in God's hands now. 
    
    It's strange that she would be at the hospital when Conway came in.  It
    also seems very fitting.
    
    Virginia

    About the MCN awards, specifically the 'Up-and-coming star award', or
    whatever it's called.  It looked to me like Suzy Bogguss was the one
    who was supposed to win, because she was the only one they showed
    backstage as Marty Stuart was announcing the candidates.  The, just
    after Marty announced Doug Stone as the winner, the camera cut to Suzy,
    still backstage...and then quickly went to Doug.
    
    Anyone else notice this, or was that just one Corona too many?

    I think it was just a coincidence.  The camera was in the wrong place
    a few times in the short span that I watched.  I thought Suzy should
    have one, too.  Is Doug Stone that new?  I thought he was nominated for
    that award (or something like it) a couple of years ago.  Also, isn't
    he the guy who had by-pass surgery about a year ago, and everyone was
    wishing him a quick recovery during one of these award things?
    
    

    Gidday Virginia,
    
    
     Let me see now, as far as the awards show goes I also plugged into it
    kinda late. Saw Reba give a stunning performance with song "Fancy", it
    was very good, she wore the same i.e. coat, hat and such as in her
    video, and the setting on stag was an old ricity house and stairs. As
    she she sang about a higher life she peeled off the hate and coat and
    was wearing a lovely dress, and all the old background disappeard from
    the stage. This was a great stag setting, as far as the rest of the
    awards go I really didn't catch much more.
    
    
      Quick question? you might be able to help with this one Ken. My
    Country Dance lessons fell through a while back. I don't have a partner 
    yet still want to learn, are there any special video's in particular 
    that you would suggest, or any hints or tricks of the trade. I have
    seen some adds in the local newspapers here of people looking for
    instructors,is this a safe bet, watcha think?.....
    
    
    Rose..
    

    
    
    RE: Quick question? you might be able to help with this one Ken. My
        Country Dance lessons fell through a while back. I don't have a
        partner yet still want to learn,
    
    (Well git yerself out to the dance halls and you'll eventually find
    yourself one...but basically my philosophy on dancin is that you have
    to learn how to dance by yourself before you can do it with someone
    else...)
    
    RE:  are there any special video's in particular that you would suggest
    
    (not really...from what I gather from people I have talked to...this is
    funny..the instructors on most video's face the camera when
    teaching!...SO..when you want to learn from the video you have to have
    the TV behind you!...UNREAL AY!...I told those folks to send their
    videos back and get their $$$ back!)
    
    RE: or any hints or tricks of the trade. I have seen some adds in 
        the local newspapers here of people looking for instructors,is 
        this a safe bet, watcha think?.....
    
    (I'm not sure what you're asking?...1st you say you need lessons and
    then it sounds like you might want to learn to teach!...Lemme say
    this...There are LOTS of people who can dance....and there are lots of
    people who can teach...and there are lots of people who can dance and
    can't teach...catch what I'm sayin?...I feel it takes many
    years to get good at teaching....I have developed a style that everyone
    says is the best they have ever taken and this feedback some from
    people who travel to many different parts of the country...Believe me
    I'm not tootin my own horn..I have been doin country dancing for over
    12-years now and I developed my own style over that time period)
    
    Well..that's all I can tell ya.....duzzit help?
    
    Ken
        

    Ken,
    
    
         I'm sorry I guess that I was not really clear in my previous
    message, I am a really good at that at times hahahahahahahahahahaha.
    
         Anyways what I wanted to say was, I have noticed a lot of adds in
    the local papers here, where people will hire a private instructor to
    teach them line dancing. Basically I would like to hire someone myself
    but find that with the hours that I work this tends to create a
    problem, therefore I have decided to pick up a video. The problem with
    video's is there seem to be so many out there that I was looking for
    suggestions and a good one, and as far as the hints go, I guess I just
    wanted to know if there were any words of wisdom i.e. for turns and
    such. 
    
         As well I guess I automatically assume that I will need a partner
    for this. Last but not least how long does it take to learn?? and how
    many different types of dances are there?? it seems that everytime I
    turn around I hear of another type i.e. "Cotton Eye'd Joe", "Electric
    Slide" and so on.
    
    
    Anything you can tell me would be greatly appreciated.
    
    
    Thanks in Advance
    
    Rose..
    

    RE: 105.412
    
    RE: The problem with video's is there seem to be so many out there 
        that I was looking for suggestions and a good one
    
    (Sorry..can't help ya..I have never ordered one...basically get
    yourself out to the honky tonks and PRACTICE..)
    
    RE:  and as far as the hints go, I guess I just wanted to know if 
         there were any words of wisdom i.e. for turns and such.
    
    (KEEP YOUR FEET GOING and DON'T look DOWN!)
    
    RE: Last but not least how long does it take to learn??
    
    (It depends on hpw much your get out and practice like anything..)
    
    RE: many different types of dances are there?? it seems that everytime
        I turn around I hear of another type i.e. "Cotton Eye'd Joe", "Electric
        Slide" and so on.
    
    (I hear ya...but what you will find is that there are basic dance
    sequences that are used in most all dances so once you learn those then
    you should be able to pick up on the new dances fairly quickly...)
    
    I'm actaully thinking about getting into the video market myself...
    I've seen some videos that are really bad and I have some great ideas
    on how to do the BEST ones for people to learn...Watch for my
    commercial on the nashville network someday!  :-)...ya right!
    
    
    
    
    
        Anything 
    

    Ken,
    
    
      thanks for all suggestions and advice, and I guess what it all comes
    down to is practise makes perfect. I'll keep an eye open for your tape
    OK, hahahhahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Rose..
    

    Calling Noters, Calling All Noters,
    
    
         I was going through one of the other files in the music directory
    and saw a Music Trivia file. I was just wondering if anyone/everyone
    would be interested in us Country Music fans starting a music trivia of
    our own.  You know with such questions as who sings this tune or
    another, when it was recorded and such. Anyone out there have any
    comments, negative or positive. 
    
    Rose..
    

    
    Well folks...
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Well it appears my years in Digital is coming to an end..Unless
    perhaps I find myself a job in here by the 25th
    
    It's been fun and I'm glad I could help ya'll with your country-western
    questions etc....
    
    IF anyone needs information on what's happenin in the country western
    dance world around here feel free to call me at home..(508) 772-2195.
    
    Ken
    

    Geesh man!
    
    I never thought I would see the day when you would leave before me. 
    It's been great Ken, take care and keep the dancing shoes warm.
    
    Virginia

    Hi, Folks--
    
    Had a few minutes, so I thought I'd check in.  
    
    Re:  .416 Ken, Haven't gotten to know you too well, as I'm pretty new
    to this notesfile.  But, I have appreciated your knowledge and
    contributions in here.  For what it's worth:  Thanks.  If I recall 
    correctly, you teach dance at Ovations(?) up on Rte. 1 in Mass.? 
    Guess I'll have to make a concerted effort to get there and say, "Hi." 
    Good luck in your job search and any new endeavors you pursue.  Perhaps
    it is time to take on that dance video challenge.....All the best to
    you.
    
    Re:  .415  If folks are interested in a Trivia note, I'm for it.  I
    enjoy trivia of any sort.  This would probably not be my best topic. 
    But I will be interested in learning some new bits of info.
    
    General Interest:  Just heard that a fairly major arena show is to be
    staged at Foxboro Stadium here in Foxboro, MA.  One of the new Country
    music stations is sponsoring the show.  I didn't hear when -- sometime
    this summer.  I did hear the line-up:  Marty Stuart, Doug Stone, Holly
    Dunn, Michelle Wright, and Doug Kershaw. Sounds like a fun time. 
    Anyone have any more details?  I think tix will sell for app. $18. or
    $20.  But, I'm sure the radio station has taken the best seats for
    their own promos and such.  
    
    BTW -- My summer country concert list now includes Lorrie Morgan

    The show is August 28th at Foxoboro, sponsored by WCLB.

    
     Reply .416
    
         "sniff" "sniff" Ken, during the time that I have been a noter in
    this file you've answered a lot of questions, both on music and dance.
    It always saddens me to see friends/accaintences in Dec depart, you
    are a very valued voice in this file, and I wish you all the best. Who
    knows maybe someday we'll actually meet on the dance floor.
    
    Take care of Yourself OK
    
    Rose..
    

    Well All,
    
    
          I think the Country Music Trivia is a great idea, and would
    probably be lots of fun.
    
          As far as Country Concerts go. I've got my ticket too see Marty
    Stewart and Casandra Vasick next weekend at a jamborie here. As well on
    August 28, our Exibition Fair will bill in full swing and I get to see
    none other than (Right On) Reba and Brooks and Dunn, should be a
    fantastic concert. Apparently there are to be Country Concerts all over
    our city this summer, looks like the new wave of contemporary country
    is taking this city by storm. I'm glad too see that Country Music is
    finally getting the appreciation it deserves here.
    
    
    P.S.  Ken I'm truely sorry that I hadn't 
          come up with the trivia idea until
          now. Your talent of good music and
    	  dance would have really made for
          some very interesting conversation.
    
    
    Rose
    

           Hi There All,
    
    
    
               Whats happened to everyone out there in the Country 'n"
    Western notes file??????
    
    Rose.
    

    
Lyle Lovett married Julia Roberts this past weekend.  Sure caught *me*
by surprise!

-Hal

    What?  I thought he was chasing Lori Morgan....
    
    I must be lost.  I hope he and Julia Roberts have a nice life together. 
    Wasen't she pregnant some time ago?
    
    Virginia

    re. .423
    
    i'm so relieved.  someone told me she married
    
    lyle waggoner (the big singer/hunk on the carole burnett show).
    
    lyle lovett is one thing, but lyle wagonner.
    
    what a relief.

    What?  I thought Lori Morgan was married to Clint Black's bus driver?
    I heard that she is dating a baseball player?  8) 8)
    
    Julia Roberts and Lyle Lovett?  I thought he and Mary Chapin Carpenter
    were an item?  8)  8)
    
    Country Music gossip is tough to keep up with!  8)

    Wow!!
    
    
        Lots has been happening I guess. 
    
        Yes Lyle Lovett and Julia Roberts have tied the knot, kinda weird
    to think of it really you know.
    
        I thought the Lori Morgan was to marry (or had married Clint
    Black's) bus driver as well. However the last I heard was that things
    were not going to well for this couple, I guess she has a real hard
    time getting over her love for the late great Keith Whitley so I'm
    told.
    
        Oh well like I said lots going on.
    
    
    P.S. Does anyone care to start off the Country Music Trivia Contest, OK
    how about I go first and whomever can answer my question will ask the
    next. You may as well give say three clue's if someone can't get the
    answer OK, here we go.
    
    Question #1:  They sang together as a duet and many actually believed
                  they were married. This song was a big hit for them
                  "Daddy Was An Oldtime Preacher Man"??.
    
    Rose..
     

    
>    Question #1:  They sang together as a duet and many actually believed
>                  they were married. This song was a big hit for them
>                  "Daddy Was An Oldtime Preacher Man"??.
     
     OK, I'll try......

     Dolly Parton and Porter Waggoner?

     Neal
 

    Hi, All--
    
    I don't have a clue on the trivia question.  Never heard of the song. 
    If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say Loretta Lynn and Conway Twitty. 
    But, that "people think they were married" threw me off.
    
    Anyway, the Lori Morgan thing -- she did marry Clint Black's bus
    driver.  But, they're getting, or have, divorced.  She's been "seeing"
    the Dallas Cowboy's quarterback, Aikman (I think is his name.)  I've
    also heard the notion that Keith Whitley was her true love, hasn't
    really recovered from his death, etc.
    Had a chance to listen to Wynonna's new album.  Really enjoyed it.  She
    seems to be experimenting a bit with different styles.  There's a
    terrific song on there about girls with guitars.  Written by
    Mary-Chapin Carpenter.  Some clever lyrics and "licks."
    
    Gotta go.  Keep us posted about that trivia question.
    
    --Terri

    Gee, and I thought I got around!  Poor poor Lori.  So broken up over
    Keith's death.................  Well why didn't she help him when he
    wsa killing himself?  I don't think any woman that goes galavanting
    around with every man in the business is really hurting over another
    man.  Life does go one but please spare me!
    
    Virginia
    
    Ps.  No clue on the trivia.  Good question.
    
    

    
RE: .430
    
  >>Well why didn't she help him when he
   >>wsa killing himself? 
    
    How do you know she didn't try?
    
    Obviously you have no clue about the disease of alcoholism....
    
    Joyce

    Excuse me but I do.  My mother, father and brother are all recovering
    alcholics.  They are all alive today because I did something about it
    to help them.  I myself have fallen a few times.
    
    It was just a sarcastic commnet anyway.
    
    

    
    Your note certainly didn't look like you understood *and* certainly
    didn't look like a joke...
    
    You must be so proud of yourself having saved so many lives......
    

    Well maybe you all will be lucky and I will get struck by lightning and
    be put out of your misery.
    
    

    RE: 428
    
       Neal, you're right it was Dolly Parton and Porter Wagoner who hit
    the bill boards with "Preacher Man", you hear those good old ones much
    anymore. It's now your turn to ask the next trivia question Ok, so go
    ahead and give it a try.
    
       --Terry, good try on that one Conway and Loretta were also pretty
    big, and they were also a non married duet. Keep on trying OK.
    
       Sounds like things got a little hostile for a momment there, hope
    you all try the next trivia by Neal.
    
    Rose
    

    Hi ya all out there,
    I am back (I never thought I would be after I had been told that my job
    will no longer be just before I went on vacation, but last minute I was
    offered a change into a different position, so I will be here for a little
    longer...).
    
    Fan Fair 93 was great! Once again! This year I went more for the music
    out on the grandstand, where we got hot weather (90's) and hot music. I
    saw Billy Dean, Kathy Mattea, Tim McGraw, Little Texas, John Anderson,
    Pam Tillis, Deborah Allen, Neal McCoy, Diamond Rio, Alan Jackson, Billy
    Ray Cyrus, Michelle Wright, Brooks & Dunn(!), Toby Keith and TNN awards
    group of the year Sawyer Brown, plus lots more.
    
    That's why I didn't spend much time lining up for autographs this time.
    I even missed some of them (such as Wynonna), but got to see Garth who
    was there for two entire afternoons (his line was neverending). As
    opposed to other stars who came in dark limos, Garth drove his own
    pickup!
    
    Hank Williams jr. introduced the new Hank Williams commemorative stamp.
    
    A surprise guest to Fan Fair was Bryan Adams (Canadian rocker) who came
    on and off during the entire week. He did a jam session on stage with
    Billy Ray Cyrus and I heard he also played with Shenandoah and Vince
    Gill when they were performing.
    
    This year they cut the number of exhibitor booths to make the halls
    less jammed, so some acts (such as Exile) didn't even get a booth!
    Besides fanclubs all the networks (TNN, CMT) and magazines (they offer
    good bargains on subscriprions) have booths.
    
    When I came to Nashville the weekend before fan fair I found out that
    the annual Summer Lights Festival (some sort of city fest) was staged
    to take place on that weekend this year. So there were more concerts:
    Don&Darril Ellis, Marty Stuart, John Brannon, Zaca Creek, Tammy
    Wynnette and more...
    
    What a time...
    
    Talk to you more later.
    
    Tom.
    

    Some info on Fan Fair 94:
    
    "Fan Fair is a musical extravaganza designed for the enjoyment of those
    who love Country Music, buy the records, come to the personal
    appearances and join fan clubs. Cosponsored by the Grand Ole Opry, and
    the Country Music Assoc., the Fan Fair allows participants to see and
    hear the music industry's biggest names in over 30 hours of spectacular
    stage shows, take pictures, get autographes and stroll leisurely among
    booths and exhibits featuring the latest in Country Music records and
    merchandise.
    And best part of all...the Fan Fair is open to everyone. The only
    requirement is that you have a strong desire for music, fun and
    excitement. For those who like to rub elbows with the stars, the
    Country Music fan Fair is the closest thing to 'Hillbilly Heaven'.
    For more information on how you can attend the next Fan Fair write:
    Fan Fair
    2804 Opryland Drive
    Nashville, TN 37214
    (615) 889-7503"
    
    I was told that it is best to write to the above address in November so
    that you get put on the mailing list. Tickets start selling in January
    and that way you will be notified as soon as they do. It is recommemded
    to then return your application form and check immediately because this
    year Fan Fair sold out in record breaking time of 3 weeks (close to
     25000 tickets). Prices this year were $75 a ticket. Fan Fair is
    scheduled for the first or second week in June each year.
    
    Tom.
    

    Hi there Tom,
    
    
           I think I may check fan fair out next year, maybe I'll be a
    little luckier next time around. Glad to hear that you had a good time.
    
    
    Rose.
    

     Well Folks,
    
           How was everybody's weekend, we had a very hot one here. 
    
           This past weekend was the concert/Jamborie I was to attend,
    apparently Bill Anderson was to perform but suffered a mild stroke
    last week and this would have been too much for him. Therefore we
    had Kitty Wells and what a performance she gave, a standing ovation
    from all and the crowd just roared. Marty Stewart was excellant, and
    Cassandra Vassick was great as well. The crowd just went wild when
    Marty came out on stage. It was a great time, and with the exception of
    a little heat stroke I survived, Oh well it was worth it/ well I think
    it was worth it.
    
    Gotta go for Now it's pretty busy here right now..
    
    Rose
    

    
    Tonight, Tuesday July 6th at 10:00 PM EST, TNN will be showing some of 
    a Patty Loveless concert taped at Wolf Trap in Virginia. It'll be good 
    to see her back on stage again after her surgery.:)
    
    	regards,
    			fred deady

    About 3 weeks ago Garth Brooks announced his big comeback concert at
    the Arlington Stadium in Dallas, TX on Sept. 23rd or 24th (I believe).
    68000 tickets were made available for what is supposed to become his 
    second big TV special.
    
    Within 1 1/2 hours the show was sold out; so Garth decided to do a
    second show. Another 68000 tickets were prepared and it was planned to
    open the phone lines to the rest of the country 3 hours after the tickets
    went on sale. But after only 90 minutes the second show was sold out!
    
    So Garth decided to do a third show! Tickets went on sale 2 weeks ago,
    but I haven't heard about the outcome? Anyone has?
    
    Tom.

     Neal,
    
        Got any idea's yest on the next question for Country Music Trivia? 
    It's your turn to ask the next question.
    
    
    Rose..
    

    I have a one.  Why on earth did that girl marry Lyle?
    
    V

    >>>Why on earth did that girl (Marlo Thomas?) marry Lyle?
    
    One speculation I saw was that she had hung out with lots
    of good looking men and she wanted someone who she definitely
    was better looking than ;-)
    
    A better question is why he married someone who is as fickle
    (according to the gossip rags) as she is?
    
    will

    Let me see, I really don't think she is all that hot looking.  Now, if
    I did I think my husband might be a bit upset.  Maybe he sings to her
    in the shower or something.  Ya know, looks aren't everything.  I
    wonder if she is friends with Lisa Hartman Black and found out that
    country music is the place to be.  Geesh, it just might be a trend! 
    Heaven help us all.
    
    Virginia

    
    
    You think your husband might sing to Julia Roberts in the shower?  *8')
    
    Sounds like a great job, but I'm surprised she just didn't get a radio
    or something...
    
    

    ..but I'm surprised she just didn't get a radio or something....
    
    
    great line!  in the running for line of the week ;-)
    
    

    My husband is doing what?  When did this come about?  I thought Mr.
    Lovette was singing to her.  My husband can't sing that good.  Gee,
    forget to check the notes one day and look at what happens!
    
    Virginia

    Hi there All,
    
        Well as we've heard nothing so far from Neal on the next trivia
    question, would anyone of you like to try it?. It's easy just ask a
    question and lets test the Country Music listeners out there. So who'd
    like to give it a try.
    
    Rose..
    

    How about this one:
    
    2) Who was the first artist/act ever to have 4 number-1 singles off ONE
    album (it wasn't the Beatles, it wasn't Michael Jackson, it was a
    country act!).
    
    Tom.                           

    
    Probably Elvis Presley. My second guess would be Johnny Cash.
    
    
    fred deady
    wbc::deady

    Charlie Rich, maybe?  The "Behind Closed Doors" album had a couple of
    hits pulled off it.  Just a guess.  I hope it aint Billy Ray Cyrus 8^)
    
    							Brian

Re 4 #1 singles:

How 'bout Alabama?

    Anybody buy Joe Diffie's Honky Tonk Attitude yet?

    
    I think I'm gonna stick with .453 Alabama, that was a great question
    really got the brain thinking.
    
    P.S. Oh if no one gets it you can give a total of three clue's i.e. one
    at a time.
    
    Rose..
    

OK,how 'bout this:

What two country singers starred in a production of Gilbert & Sullivan's
"Pirates of Penzance?"

Bob

    Re:  456 -- I know Linda Ronstadt was on Broadway.  The male was either
    Rex Smith (not sure if he ever recorded country) or Tom Wopat.
    
    How close am I?

One outa two ain't bad. Linda was the lady, but you got the gent wrong...

    Trivia #2) has not been answered correctly yet!
    
    So I guess I'll give the first clue:
    
    The artist is male (not a group) and from Ohio.
    
    Tom.

    RE 456>
    How about Gary Morris. I know he and Linda Ronstadt starred in La
    Bohme. Gary also was in Les Miserables on Broadway.
    
    Tom.

Re .460:

Yup, Linda and Gary were the awesome twosome who did "Pirates of Penzance!"

Didn't mean to muddy the waters on question #2; it looked like the last answer
was taken as correct (shows what *I* know!).

Bob

    Re:  4 no. 1 hits from the same album -- Please don't say it was Glen
    Campbell.....
    
    --Terri

    Still no correct answers for trivia question #2. So let me add clue #2:
    
    This artist has had 3 duets which (among others) became big hits:
    
     - a duet with an r&b/soul singer went to No.2 (on the country chart)
     - a duet with a living country legend went to No.1
     - a duet with a late country singer went to No.1 also
    
    Tom.

    
    
    
    Sounds like Kenny Rogers...(the other Country artist I've heard of)
    
    

    Given clue #2, I too would have to say Kenny Rogers
    
    --TM

    
    
    I think that tune Kenny did with the First Edition ("I Just Dropped In
    To See What Condition My Condition Was In") has got to be my favorite
    country tune...
    
    

    Sorry, but still no correct answer...
    Let me give clue #3 (I guess by now you can tell that this artist has
    never really been accordingly recognized by the public for all his 
    musicl success):
    
    Among his over 16 #1 hits this singer/songwriter recorded a song in
    1989/90 which had the very staightforward line 'go to hell' in it.
    This was a more than risky thing to do on country radio, but it fit the 
    lyrics of the song so well that it still went all the way to #1!
    
    Tom.

    A few recomendations:
    
    A good country magazine which is beeing published monthly for about a
    year now is COUNTRY FEVER. It has excellent pictures and in-depth
    articles.
    
    Some CD's that I enjoyed lately:
    Tim McGraw by Tim McGraw offers modern Honky Tonk music with a kick and
    excellent production. Tim is opening act for Joe Diffie's 'Hony Tonk
    Attitude'-tour this year. Songs of the album: 'Welcome to the Club',
    'Memory Lane', 'I'll keep it under my Hat'. Even better than the album
    (I usually don't care too much for hard core traditionalists but like
    this one) is his live sound!!!
    
    John Berry by John Berry has been described as Southern Country Blues.
    It is edgy, the instrumentation lacks typical country sounds (no
    fiddles, practically no steel, but a sparkling guitars and drums). The
    songs are a good mixture of uptempo and ballads, such as 'Kiss Me In
    the Car' and 'You're Love Amazes Me'. One of his influences may be
    Travis Tritt who he used to play the same club circuit once in a while.
    
    Anyone who likes blues, soul, gospel, country (REAL southern music) I
    can recommend an older CD by Razzy Bailey which I came across just by
    chance called 'Blues Juice'. Great BLUESy atmosphere!
    Razzy Bailey had a bunch of country hits in the 70's.
    
    Tom. 

    Anyone any comments on the new Clint BlaCk CD 'No Time to Kill'...?
    Supposedly contains the Black&Wy duet and a song cowritten with Jimmy
    Buffet...
    
    Tom.

    
    So Kenny Rogers was not the right answer, what a relief.
    John, I had prepared my reply in case it was the correct answer ;-)
    
    OK, one from me: Does anybody know where Kenny Rogers is from ?
    
    Lale
    

    kenny rogers was born in houston texas on 8/21/38.
    
    willie

>    kenny rogers was born in houston texas on 8/21/38.
    
    What am I doing here, amongst experts.
    
    Lale

    <<< what am i dong here, amongst experts.
    
    i keep a copy of the world almanac handy to answer questions
    about celebrities ages, birthplaces, etc.  without it,
    i had no idea.
    
    xpert

    Re: 466
    
    That's a joke right?  Picking Kenny's best known psychedelic rock
    effort as your favorite country song is pretty perverse  8^)  8^)

    i can handle country music but i think that kenny's best
    song was 'just dropped in'.
    
    didn't the pointer sisters win a grammy (in country) for their
    song 'fairy tale'?  
    
    what makes a song country?
    
    george leroy tirebiter
                 

    
>    That's a joke right?  Picking Kenny's best known psychedelic rock
>    effort as your favorite country song is pretty perverse  8^)  8^)
    
    That's why I like him.
    

    
    	I don't like much country music, but I do own a few CD's
    	[Hank Jr. - 1 greatest hits and 1 live, and "Breaking New
    	Ground" - Wild Rose].
    
    	And that new one, "T-R-O-U-B-L-E" [by Travis Tritt, I think]
    	is pretty good ... especially the girl in the vodeo.
    
    							GTI

    >especially the girl in the video.
    
    Gee, and have you even listened to the CD yet?  :-))
    
    I like any Arron Tippen videos, now that man has a set of `hold me
    close' arms!
    
    Virginia

  Someone e-mailed me this quote from a TV Guide interview with the
  executive producer of "Star Trek: Next Generation":
  
    TV Guide:  Are there any other famous fans dying to make guest
    appearances?
    
    Rick Berman:  ... Lyle Lovett is also an obsessive fan, and we're in
    discussions with his people now.  He would be a natural for an alien.
    
    TV Guide:  Would there be a part for the new Mrs. Lovett, Julia Roberts?
    
    Rick Berman:  Sure.  We're always open to alien-human romance.   - Jay

    Hi there Virginia,
    
          Long time no talk, so how's the little cowboy doing. I was
    watching the "Phil Donahue Show" last week (Phil's a talk show host).
    And guess who was a guest, you got it Mr. Tippin himself. The funny
    thing about it was, the show was all about rich or famous men who were
    looking for companions. I thought he was married off, guess I was
    wrong, he can sing his single "Blue Eye's" to me anytime.
    
    
    Gotta go.
    
    P.S. I can't believe it I'm completely lost on the trivia question, I
    don't have a clue of who it is. Although for some strange reason I keep
    thinking of Kris Kristoferson (might be spelled wrong)..
    
    
    Rose..
     

    As nobody seems to get it right, let me reveal the answer to Trivia
    question #2:
    
    The artist who was the first to have 4 #1 singles off a single album in
    any music format was:
    
    EARL THOMAS CONLEY (known as E.T. or ETC)!
    
    His 1983 album 'Don't Make It Easy for Me' spawned 4 no.1 songs: 'Don't
    Make It Easy For Me', 'Your Love's On the Line', 'Holding Her and
    Loving You' and 'Angel In Disguise'.
    
    Clue#2 was:
     1) 'Too Many Times' (duet with Anita Pointer of the Pointer Sisters)
     2) 'We Believe In Happy Endings' (duet with Emmilou Harris)
     3) 'Brotherly Love' (duet with Keith Whitley recorded before (!)
    Keiths's death)
    
    Clue#3:
     The line 'GO TO HELL' is used in the #1 song 'What I'd Say'.
    
    ETC's music has been called 'thinking mans country' or even 'country
    soul'. In 1991 he suffered from throat problems and had to cancel road
    dates and studio work. A recent Billboard article called out for help in
    finding ETC ('...if you do, tell him we need him') and bringing back to
    country music what has been missing since his disappearance from the
    scene...
    
    Tom.
    
    P.S.: I had the pleasure of meeting ETC at Fan Fair in 1991 and he is a
    really nice guy!
    

    Hiya Rose!
    
    Busy busy busy!  Not really.  More like Lazy lazy lazy.  
    
    I like the note about Lyle, that man wouldn't need must makeup either. 
    Ooo, I can be soo mean!
    
    So, Mr. Tippin is single and looking huh?  I wonder if he would like a
    Florida/Califoria woman!  Nah, I like struggling by in life and never
    having enough of what I want.  But then again, the honeymoon might just
    be worth it.  Did you happen to get his address Rose?
    
    I have alot of stuff by ETC.  Funny, I never really noticed that he had
    gone from Country music.  I hope he does come back and at least be a
    consultant to the new artists that are popping up.
    
    Virginia

    Hi, Folks--
    
    I know it's been a while...Sorry.  I did promise some concert reviews
    this summer, so here goes...
    
    Saw Lorrie Morgan at the South Shore Music Circus in Cohasset, MA last
    night.  Boy, was I pleasantly surprised!  I really didn't know what to
    expect, so I hadn't expected much (just my pessimistic nature, I
    guess).  
    
    Lorrie sang everything I wanted to hear, and a couple of new songs --
    perhaps from her latest album.  One of the songs she said had just been
    made into a video and is to be released soon.  Parts of the video were
    shot at this year's Fan Fair.  The song was dedicated to her fans. 
    Sorry, but as I was infamiliar with it, I didn't really catch the title
    or much of the chorus.
    
    So, the woman is more of an entertainer than I was expecting.  She
    "chatted at" the audience just enough to show a bit of her personality. 
    She's something of spit-fire.  It was also very obvious who was in
    charge on stage.  I noticed several times that she was giving cues and
    directions to the band.  Lorrie was in good voice and looked terrific. 
    Her hair appeared a bit shorter than I recalled.  She changed outfits
    once.  She changed from a flower-print short, sequined, spaghetti strap
    dress into a brilliant royal-blue short, sequined, spaghetti strap
    dress.  I don't blame her -- it was rather hot and humid last night up
    here.
    
    Back to the music -- I was surprised to see that Lorrie plays guitar. 
    She did so during the second part of the show on "What Part of No Don't
    You Understand?" and a couple of others.  Her final number (before the
    obligatory encore) was "Something in Red" which was well presented. 
    Just as I was saying that the only song she had yet to do was "Out of
    Your Shoes Tonight," she came back to sing it as an encore.  The final
    number of the night was a cover of Journey's "Faithfully."  I've never
    heard anyone cover a Journey tune before.  Lorrie and the band did it
    justice!  Overall, I thought it was a great show and thoroughly enjoyed
    myself.  I know the others in my party did as well.
    
    Oh, yeah, just before she sang "I Guess You Had to be There" she shared
    a cute story from filming the video with Kris Kristofferson.  I haven't
    seen the video yet, but it sounds like there's a bit of kissing in it! 
    And, she said that part was very nice!  -- It was her choice to have
    Kris as the leading man -- and she had never met him before the first
    morning of filming.
    
    Well, I've rambled long enough.  Hope everyone has a great weekend. 
    Next up for me is Mary-Chapin Carpenter next weekend.
    
    Take care,
    --Terri

    The video to "I guess you had to be there" is terrific.  I guess
    the fact that Kris is in the video makes it my favorite.  I wish
    I were in Lori's shoes when she filmed it!  8)
    
    Thanks for the Lori Morgan review!  Kath

    Sooooo......who's got responsibility for the next trivia question?
    
    Also, what's happening in the rest of the country?  New England has had
    lots of country music happening this summer.  I only regret my budget
    has limited my choices.  
    
    See y'all later,
    --Terri

    I have no trivia but one question.  
    
    Anyone heard from Ken since he left the Company?  Rose?
    
    Anyone?  I was in Boston in July and tried to look him up but the
    number I had was no longer working or something.
    
    Virinia

    This is the "official" Mary-Chapin Carpenter concert review.  I saw MC2
    at both the Newport, RI folk festival and the Cape Cod Melody tent. 
    She played an abbreviated very rockin' set at Newport and an hour and
    a half at the tent.  Each performance was terrific -- very rousing,
    energetic.  My only lament is that the ushers at the tent kept telling
    us to sit down and asked people to return to their seats when they
    tried to dance in the aisles.  
    
    Each performance opened with "I Feel Lucky," in which the final lyric
    was changed to reflect Lyle Lovett's new maritial status.  (I don't
    want to give it away for those who may be seeing MC2 this summer) 
    "Down at the Twist and Shout" was very lively.  A significant change
    was made to "Quittin' Time."  The song was done with a single acoustic
    guitar (John Jenning's) and slowed waaay down to a sort of soulful
    lament -- excellent.  This was performed at the tent only.  The encore
    for each show was a new tune added from the "Come On Come On"  CD --
    Mark Knopfler's, "The Bug."  Another new tune (performed at the tent
    only) was a bluesy, the-partying-is-over-for-you, kind of song.  MC2
    played-up to an older guy sitting in the front row -- cute, funny, a
    nice touch.
    
    At the Melody tent, MC2 talked much more than she had last November at
    Berkley in Boston.  She joked a bit and revealed a little of her
    personality.  Throughout both shows, she smiled and appeared to be
    thoroughly enjoying the gig.
    
    Gone from the set were "You Win Again," "Right Now," and "Come On Come
    On."  I got the impression that she and the band were going for a more
    upbeat, rockin' feel.  Perhaps because it's summer and people are more
    upbeat and into partying.  
    
    Well, that's it until the Black & Wy show next Thursday.  Until then...
    
    ". . .Sometimes you're the windshield; sometimes you're the bug. . ."
    
    --Terri

    I have just finished listening to the new Patty Loveless release
    "Only What I Feel", and Kelly Willis' new self titled release. Both of
    these are great CD's. I have always liked Patty's voice, and her recent
    operation has not affected it in the least. A truely enjoyable CD.
    Kelly Willis has always been underated IMHO. Her new album is another
    strong performance. Kelly's voice sounds like a female Dwight Yoakam,
    just the right amount of inflection. The supporting band on Kelly's CD
    compliments her voice and emotion. Her song writers are amoung the
    best, Jim Lauderdale, Mas Palermo. Two great CD's.
    
    I also bought three other CD's that readers of this string will most 
    likely not have heard of. They are also great releases and again
    strongly recommended. Bjork's new "Debut" CD -- FANTASTIC. Todd
    Rundgren's "No World Order" -- Very Good. 4 Non Blondes "Bigger,
    Better, Faster, More" -- also Very Good.
    
    This is a small sample of my "diverse" music tastes. Quite uncommon
    don't you think?
    
    	a music lover,
    			fred deady
    			wbc::deady
    

re: .488
    
>    This is a small sample of my "diverse" music tastes. Quite uncommon
>    don't you think?
    
Uncommon, perhaps, but not strange.  There's probably more of us than you
think with very diverse tastes.

-Hal

    Anyone heard anything on when the new Garth CD will be out???
    I was reading somewhere August 31...?!
    Also a first single is supposed to be already playing? Anyone confirm
    this?
    
    Thanks,
    Tom.

  Saw an item in the latest issue of either CD Review or Guitar Player --
  Alison Krauss has been "inducted" (ouch) into the Grand Old Opry.

  Arguably of negligible musical interest, but I'm happy to see this
  bluegrass fiddler/vocalist get the recognition, without having sold out
  (so far).  [She's beyond her teens now, right?]

  Her album of a couple of years ago, "I've Got That Old Feeling", struck me
  as one of the best bluegrass (folk, country) song cycles of recent years.
    - Jay

    re: .490
    
    	I heard it will be out in September..
    
    	I have heard the new single a couple of times (can't remember the
    name).  It has a rock/blues feel to it more then country, IMO.
    
    Dave V

    Hi Virginia,
    
       Sorry I didn't answer sooner, however I was escaping myself on a
    nice relaxing vacation at a relatives cottage. You know just some nice
    quiet time off, oh god and I had to come back, oh well you know what
    they say all good things must end.
    
       As for myself I've heard nothing from Ken..
    
       Rose..
    

    Some release dates I just came across:
    
    Aug 10, 'Outskirts of Town' (Sawyer Brown)
    Aug 10, `Call of the Wild' (Aaron Tippin)
    Aug 24, 'A Bridge I Didn't Burn' (Ricky Van Shelton)
    Aug 31, 'In Pieces' (Garth Brooks)
    Sep  2, 'Something Up My Sleeve' (Suzy Boguss)
    Sep 28, 'Cowgirl's Prayer' (Emmilou Harris)
    Sep 28, 'Easy Come, Easy Go' (George Strait)
    
    No guarantees taken ...
    
    Tom.

  I saw somewhere that there's a box coming out for Emmylou Harris -- don't
  know if that's what the 28-Sep release is.   JBC

    
    	Who does "Thunder Road"?
    
    	Sounds like Garth Brooks.
    
    							GTI

    
          GTI,
    
    
             I think the name of the song your referring to is call
    
                   " Thunder Rolls " if so, yes it's Garth Brooks.
    
    
    Rose..
    

    However, if you really mean "Thunder Road," Bruce Springsteen does it. 
    But, that's another song for another topic, for another notesfile...
    
    I owe you folks a Black&Wy concert review -- the short version is:
    FANTASTIC.  The longer version is due sometime later this week.
    
    See Ya,
    --Terri

    Nah, "Thunder Road" was by Robert Mitchum (honest)...no, not the
    Springsteen tune and maybe not what the question was about, but it's a
    real tune.  Theme song to one of Bob's flicks, late fifties, maybe?
    
    							Brian

    re: 488 Kelly Willis
    
    Yeah, I also think she's underplayed and underrated. But I do think the
    quality of her albums has decreased consistently.  "Well Traveled Love"
    knocked, and still knocks, my socks off.  Especially the first "side".
    Her voice is very strong, and gritty in a positive sense.  There was
    much more emotion in that album than Bang Bang or the new one. 
    "Lookin' for Someone Like You" is one of my favorite dancing songs of
    the last few years.
    
    Her latest is OK, but she seems to be slipping much more into the
    mainstream.  Seems a bit overproduced, her voice is much more recessed
    into the accompanying instruments.
    
    None of her albums is very well recorded.  Very flat soundstage and a bit
    too much zip in the upper octaves.
    
    Saw her at Johnny Dee's in Sommerville about 18 months ago, good show
    and it was amazing to see how much power came out her tiny body.  But
    the band she brought along wasn't so good, the guitar player in
    particular was poor.  
    
    Ken

    
    	Apparently, the song I was wondering about was "Thunder Rolls"
    	by Garth Brooks.  Considering I've heard it in a country bar,
    	where I play pool once a week, it's probably that one.
    
    	[Definitely not Springsteen, who I really don't like too much.
    	 But that's for another topic.  8^)]
    
    							GTI

         Hi There All,
    
    
                 What happened to our music trivia questions and such? I
    guess maybe this is something that there is not a lot of interest in.
    Well how about we take a vote, those that want to keep it going vote 
    yes Y and those could aren't interested vote no N. 
    
    
    Regards
    
    
    Rose..
    

re: Kelly Willis
    
> Saw her at Johnny Dee's in Sommerville about 18 months ago, good show
> and it was amazing to see how much power came out her tiny body.  

She's coming back to Johnny D's later this month. I forget the actual date,
but I'm sure the club will let you know if you call them.

alan

    Gidday All,
    
    
          There's a Garth Brooks concert scheduled here for Nov/13,
    apparently Garth played here a couple of years ago, and 54 minutes
    all 16,000 tickets were sold. All the local papers and Country radio
    stations are saying to make sure your in the line up early or you'll
    loose out. The tickets are also pretty cheap compared to the normal
    ticket price, and from what I understand this was arranged through
    Garth himself to promote his new Cd. I was not aware however that the
    actual entertainer had anything to do with ticket prices and such, also 
    this is the only place he'll be playing in Canada, now thats
    impressive. If I'm not mistaken was it not Garth Brooks who really put
    up a fight regarding ticket scalping becoming illegal??. Oh well I'll
    definitely be in the line up.
    
    Rose..
    

    Lucky you!  Have a great time and we expect a full report.
    
    Virginia

    >  There's a Garth Brooks concert scheduled here for Nov/13,
    
    Anyone selling "used" tickets?  ;-)
    
    (See "Record Companies Strongarm..." note).
    
    	db

    Hi Virginia,
    
              Well I wasn't to lucky with the Garth Brooks tickets,
    apparently the first concert was a sell out in about 49 minutes. from
    that a second concert was scheduled and in an hour it was a sell out as
    well. Apparently people were standing in line 36 hours before the
    tickets boths opened for this concert WoW.  Oh well I'm going to keep 
    my fingers crossed that I can win a couple.  If I don't go to the
    concert I know some people from work who will be and I'll definitly
    send a full page report ok.
    
    
    Rose.
    

    Thanks Rose.
    
    I think that is one thing I really hate about some of these singers
    that make it big.  You can never get tickets!  I remember when Chris
    LeDoux only played rodeos.  Now when he plays at the local bars I can't
    even get tickets.  The one time I did I couldn't even get close to see
    him.  I had to sit back where the pool tables were.  Really sucked.  
    
    Sorry, just venting a bit I guess.  Just when they get to be big stars,
    it seems those of us that waded through cow-stuff and pouring rain get
    left out in the cold.
    
    
    Good luck Rose.
    
    Virginia

      Hey Virginia,
    
    
             Guess what, I'm not sure yet, but one of the guys I work with 
    came in yesterday morning with four extra tickets he was able to
    purchase. He's explained that from what he understands the tickets are
    sold already to other people, however he'll let me know this morning,
    and if for some reason (which I highly doubt) they aren't actually gone 
    I can buy them from him, Right On!!!!.
    
             You're also very right Virginia, the guy who's got the extra
    tickets here doesn't even know Garth or listen to Country music. As a
    matter of fact when he came in last week he said, I think I'm going to
    some Brooks Garth concert. Really ticked me off you know, there are so
    many people who are so dedicated emotionally to Country music artists
    that it annoys me when I see people who don't really care for it
    getting the tickets it just gets me fumin. Oh well I'll keep my fingers
    crossed.
    
    P.S. How's the wee guy doing? Good I hope.
    
    Rose..
    

    One of two things happen when acts get big:
    
    1. If you can get tickets to see them, they s*ck now.
    
    2. If you can't get tickets to see them, they're still great.
    
    Many, many  8^)
    
    							Brian 

    Rose,
    
    Lucky you!!!  Take him to lunch or something.  
    
    I have only been to a few concerts in my life.  And the only one that I
    have been to that was a major show, ie in a large setting, was Clint
    Black.  I wasen't impressed at all.  I couldn't see him and everyone
    was yacking it up about other stuff.  The few times I have seen Chris
    Ledoux was at bars in town.  Those are at least a bit more personal.  
    
    Good luck Rose.
    
    
    Virginia

    Kathy Mattea was at Mechanics Hall in Worcester MA on Friday night.
    What a great concert!  I could have listened to her all night.  
    Mechanics Hall is a small, beautiful hall...there wasn't a bad
    seat in the place. I was really thrilled to see her in concert.
    
    Kath

    Hi All,
    
           Country Music notes has become pretty quiet lately, I guess a
    lot of people are on holidays.
    
    Oh Well, thought I'd just say hi y'all
    
    Rose..
    

     Me Again,
    
    
           I forgot I had a few questions,
    
           I saw a video on T.V. tonight, I believe the girl is a new
    entertainer, and she'll singing an old tune of the Kendalls. I'm
    not sure what it's called, I think it's "Heavens Just A Sin Away",
    can anyone shed any light on this one for me i.e. who is she.
    
           Also one of the Nevel (not sure if thats how you spell it) brothers
    has come out with a re-make of George Jones version of "Step Right Up,
    Come On In", I think the actual name for this is "The Grand Tour". 
    So any feedback? what do you think?
    
    As far as the first one goes, at first I was kind of in the I Don't
    Think So mode, but after listening to it, it's not too bad. This girl 
    really looks like the daughter off the movie "ParentHood".
    
    As far as the second I think this sounds pretty good as well, I think
    this is the same guy (one of the guys) who did "Bird on a Wire". Well
    let me know what you think.
    
    
    Thanks
    
    Rose..
    

    it's probably Aaron Neville of the Neville Brothers.
    
    

    
    wIllIe, the vEry firST Time you cApiTalIzEd anythinG. I didN't tHink
    your Keyboard HAD A shift Or a locK key.
    
    i Always thOUGHT how cOOl it was not to bother wITh loWer/Upper casE
    deals AnD envied you. now You aRE jUst One of us :-(
    
    lalE

that last reply gave me a case of motion sickness, lale.

    <blurp>

    And I thought it was my glasses acting up again.
    
    
    Rose, I know what song you are talking about "Just a Sin Away".
    I have a friend who sent me a 6 hour tape of CMT cause I don't
    have cable and was going through withdrawls.  I will check it out
    again tonight and find out who she is.  I liked her two, she had a very
    clear voice and seemed to have great control.
    
    
    I'm here but busy busy busy.
    
    
    Virginia

>           Also one of the Nevel (not sure if thats how you spell it) brothers
>    has come out with a re-make of George Jones version of "Step Right Up,
>    Come On In", I think the actual name for this is "The Grand Tour". 
>    So any feedback? what do you think?

  Yeah, I saw Aaron Neville do this on the PBS "In Concert" series.  Thumbs
  up from me, maybe just because George Jones -> Aaron Neville is kind of a
  natural, and I'm a fan of both.  Nice to see supposedly disparate musical
  styles fit together like that.  Not that Neville so much as altered a
  single note of the Billy Sherrill type arrangement.
  
  Come to think of it, Aaron's live rendition of "Grand Tour" illustrated
  perfectly what happens when George Jones oversings...  8)

  (An example of George himself oversinging being his rendition of James
  Taylor's "Bartender's Blues"...)    - Jay

    
      RE: - few
    
       Oh my aching head....Think I need ME eyes tested again...
    
    /Bob
    

    lale is referring to my habit of using 'no capitals'
    when i type.  when i capitalized aaron neville and the
    neville brothers, it threw her off.  
    
    to ease confusion,  i will not use capitals in this
    notes field again.
    
    willie ewing
    
    p.s. - im getting ready to stop using all punctuation also

    Reply .515,
    
    
              You're right it is Aaron Neville who did the re-make of
    "Grand Tour". I heard it today on the way home from work, I think he
    does an excellant job of the song.
    
    Virginia,
    
              So how's it going?, busy, busy, busy, I know what you mean
    it's been pretty crazy around here too lately. That would be great if
    you could check this out for me, I'd like to pick up the Cd for this
    and asked while shopping on the weekend but no one seemed to have a
    clue as to who I was talking about, I guess it's not out yet.
    
               Also Tammy Whynette, was on Crook n Chase (TNN) last night,
    and apparently she, Dolly Parton, and Lorretta Lynn, have gotten
    together and recorded a new album. Tammy explained that a lot of the
    songs were older releases done by the three, however some were also new
    tuunes. She also had a portrait of what the actual album cover would
    look like, it shows the three of them and almost appears to be painted
    looks good. I know for sure I would like this Cd as I like a lot of
    the oldie's. The Cd is due out in November, and I know I'll pick it up
    as soon as it comes out, soooo if you want keep an eye on this file
    andI'll give an update OK.
    
    
    Rose..
    

RE. Note 105.514          

>          I saw a video on T.V. tonight, I believe the girl is a new
>   entertainer, and she'll singing an old tune of the Kendalls. I'm
>   not sure what it's called, I think it's "Heavens Just A Sin Away",
>   can anyone shed any light on this one for me i.e. who is she.

  I am pretty sure that you are talking about Kelly Willis.
She does this one on  her latest release just tittled "Kelly Willis."
It's a good record that also includes a great cover version of Marshall
Crenshaw's "Whatever Way The Wind Blows" among others. It is her third
release so she is not exactly  new. In my opinion  she is a "better than
good" singer and should be a lot more well known than she is. 
  Her basic style is country with a rock feel, and the first two releases
really shine with her regular band playing. She is mostly backed by studio
musicians on the latest and the sound is a little more polished overall.
  Her first release was "Well Traveled Love" with not one bad song on it.
The second was called  "Bang Bang," the tittle song being a fantastic
cover of the old Janis Martin rockabilly song of the same name, and another
great record. I would highly recommend all three of them.
         
  Mike

    Is there a tape or CD with the live version of Garth Brooks's
    "FRIENDS IN LOW PLACES" ?
    
    The version where he tells the woman she can kiss his ass???
    

    
        Hi, Dwight:
    
    I think the version you're looking for is unavailable to the general
    public.  I think I heard a local DJ say that he gets lots of requests
    for that song, because only the radio stations have received the live
    version, as part of a concert promotion.
    
    Maybe some of the videos of his concert would have that song?  Check
    out Blockbuster, see if they have him in concert live.
    
    Kath

    re: Kelly Willis
    
    Her date at Johnny Ds fell through.
    
    The more I listen to her new album the more I like it.  Must have been
    in a bad mood first few times I listened (but sound quality still
    leaves much to be desired).
    
    Speaking of the Kendalls, have they done anything in the last few
    years?  They really had some great stuff in the early '80s.

    .526
    
       It took me a couple of times listening to this as well, but after a
    few times of listening I thought she sounded great, and as Virginia
    put it I think it's the control she has and that it actually brings the
    songs out more.
    
       As far as the Kendalls go I don't think they've had any new
    release's for quite some. I have their Cd at home and love to listen
    too it, I think it's great when you can walk into a music store and
    pick up a Cd by alot of the new entertainers at a good price, but it's
    great when you can walk into a regular department store and pick up the
    old release's for a 1/4 of the price.
    
    Rose
    

        Gidday All,
    
    
    
            I was only able too catch a few minutes of the CMA awards show
    last night, could anyone possibly bring me up too par on what happened?
    
            When I was coming into work I heard on the radio that Vince
    Gill won the "Entertainer of the Year" award, and that Alan Jackson won
    an award for his song "Chatahoochie". Can anyone confirm this for me?,
    I would much appreciate it.
    
    
    Rose..
    

re: .528

>            When I was coming into work I heard on the radio that Vince
>    Gill won the "Entertainer of the Year" award, and that Alan Jackson won
>    an award for his song "Chatahoochie". Can anyone confirm this for me?,
>    I would much appreciate it.
    
Yes, both of those are true.  Vince also won at least four other awards.    
One of the more interesting tidbits was Billy Ray Cyrus making a fool of
himself (I know, that's redundant) trying to announce the Female Vocalist
of the Year award (Mary Chapin Carpenter won it).

Willie Nelson was inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame.  He made
a rather interesting acceptance speech saying that if *he* was in the
H of F, then Harlan Howard, Ray Price, Merle Haggard, and a couple of
others I can't remember right now should be in it too.

  I liked Willie Nelson's acceptance speech -- he listed several other
  people that the "Hall of Fame" needs to so some "catching up" on, and had
  several humorous asides.
  
  As a Pam Tillis fan (#1 current guilty pleasure), I was disappointed in
  her rave-up gospel number -- thought it went over the top, hit a wrong
  note emotionally with the crowd, was a little too focussed on Pam'
  histrionics.  But I liked how Reba single-handedly got the crowd on its
  feet for Pam at the end of the number.  Those "women of country" stick up
  for each other (and show a lot more poise in doing so than the "men of
  country"...).

  I thought the episode with George Jones being in the can when his award
  came up was hilarious...  His wife was red-faced trying to explain that,
  *really*, I promise he's here -- not another no show for "No-Show" Jones.
    - Jay

    .530
    
     Thanks for the update, a friend of mine also filled me in on e few
    of the scenes. He also told me that the "Honky Tonk Angels" presented
    an award to Vince Gill, sounds like "I Still Believe In You" was a
    smash hit for Vince, and I think he deserved every bit of it, I've
    always loved that tune and all of Vince's music. 
    
    Does anyone know if Dolly, Lorretta, and Tammy actually sang something 
    from their new to be released recording? if so what did you think?. Oh
    and by the way these are the "Honky Tonk Angels" I was talking about
    above. 
    
    I also heard that Wynonna was excellant, and apparently have the crowd
    sitting on the edge of their seats i.e. very emotional.
    
    Last but not least, does anyone know what tune Reba sang at the awards?
    
    I watched Entertainment Tonight, at which time Reba appeared to apologize 
    as there had been alot of talk with regards to her dress being a little 
    too overbarring/revealing. She went on to say that her mother and sister 
    (Suzzy) had already taken care of that, and that to those who liked the 
    dress the way it was she thanked them very much.
    
    Well, from the sounds of it this was not like the other past awards shows
    and I not only missed singing the great entertainers, and who received
    what, but I also missed a couple of good jokes about a couple of them
    i.e. the thing with George Jones's wife (bathroom thing), and Willie
    Nelson.
    
    Well thats all for now, gotta go.
    
    
    Rose..
     

	Reba's dress was rather revealing, though not obnoxiously so.
	She sang a duet with another female vocalist, I want to say
	Kathy Mattea, though I don't know who she is so I don't know
	if that was her.  Their voices were a perfect match for each
	other.  I think it was a new tune for Reba, something about 
	both women being in love with the same guy.  I thought it was 
	pretty good, but my wife hated it and said it sounded too 
	echo-ey or something.   

	Lv

    The other half of the duet was done by Linda Davis.
    
    Unfortunately, that and Reba MacIntyre's dress are the only things
    I remember about he whole show...
    
    Edd

    I saw ET last night and thought Lorretta Lynn looked like a ridicules
    doll in that huge dress - I wanted to say "Hey dress! where ya going
    with Lorretta?!?"  Dolly, Loretta and (Tammy?) Sang their "silver
    threads golden needles" song - or whatever the name of it was - sorry
    I'm not a big CW fan.
    
    Joyce

    Hi,
    
    Can anyone tell me of any country concerts in the greater Boston area
    the last week of October?
    
    Any info appreciated.
    Thanks.
    Tom.

    
    I saw a Video on TNN over the Weekend, it was Gary Morris doing a
    Tune called "Love Hurts".  I especially liked his Harley, and of course
    the "Dear John" letter left on his front door.
    
    /Bob
      

    There will be a Country Line Dance to benefit the United Way of Acton
    and Boxborough at the Concord (MA) Elk's Club on Saturday, November 19.

    Time:       8:00, line-dance lessons at 7:30
    Price:      $10 per person

    Cash Bar

    Tickets available from the United Way of Acton and Boxborough
    (508-263-1777), and at Body in Motion - Acton (508-263-9244).

    Howdy! Sorry for any confusion, the date was right (11/19), day of the
    week really is FRIDAY.

    Hi All,
    
    
           What happened to the file? it looks like it's become none
    existant. I've been pretty busy myself, I guess thats happening all
    over. Anyway just thought I'd drop a line to all and say Gidday.
    
           How's it going Virginia, did you ever find out what happened
    to Ken?. Garth Brooks played here on Saturday and Sunday night, I
    couldn't go as tickets fell threw. I heard the concert was ok on 
    Saturday, however I guess the crowd went nutts and it actually halted
    the concert. But on Sunday night the concert went on for about 1 hour
    and 45 minutes and all whom I've talked too were definitely impressed,
    but I couldn't go *sniff* *sniff*.
    
    Rose..
    

    I just entered this notesfile a few weeks ago, and finally made it
    through the 500+ replies in the country music note.
    
    I've been a country music fan for almost a quarter-century [!] and played 
    in country bands for nearly that long.  So, naturally, I'm pleased that
    country music is doing so well these days; especially after sooooo many
    cycles of the music being popular, then scarce.  I can *definitely* re-
    call when "country wasn't cool", long before Barbara Mandrell said so!
    :)
    
    I have some neat music I want to share with you.  It includes a lot of
    stuff that nobody plays on the radio these days.  I'll be posting notes
    and reviews here from time to time (as time permits ;) about musicians
    who really deserve to be heard.
    
    							Enjoy!
    							--Eric--
    
    

    
    
Closet Classics #1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    
All fans of Western swing know who Bob Wills was.  Most of them know who
Asleep At The Wheel is.  Ask most of these people if they've heard of a 
group called "Cowboy Jazz" and the usual response is "??".  When I play
them a recording of this group, the usual response is "Wow, these guys
are *great*!  How come they never made it big?"

How come, indeed.....

Cowboy Jazz, who recorded two albums for Rounder Records in the early
1980s, consisted of six members: Kate Bennett on rhythm guitar and vocals,
Tony DeFontes on bass, Denise Carlson on fiddle and vocals, Charlie Crane
(1st album) or Brian Alpert (2nd album) on drums, Deanna Bogart on piano
and vocals, and Barry Sless on pedal steel and electric guitar.

Their first album, titled "That's What We Like About The West" showcases their
superb ability as musicians.  All three women are distinctive vocalists, but
they also can blend together in exceptionally tight harmonies.  Denise Carlson 
does the livelier songs ("Too Much Fun" and the title track).  Deanna Bogart is
a bit smoother on "Sugar Moon", "Don't Be Blue" and the self-penned "Country 
Blue", but it is Kate Bennett who stands out with the sly "Cow-Cow Boogie", 
the torchy "Stickin' To My Honey" and the incredible scatting on "Nagasaki".

Once you get past the vocals, the next thing to catch your ear is Barry Sless's
pedal steel playing; he never intrudes on the vocal but pushes each song along
with authority.  His solos are brash and downright audacious - most steel play-
ers I know wouldn't *dare* slide the bar like he does!  

Hard on his heels is Denise's fiddle playing; she keeps easy pace with Barry,
does twin leads with him in several tracks, and shows her share of flash, 
especially in "Too Much Fun".

Besides the tunes mentioned, the album includes a nicely swinging version of
Hank Williams' "Hey Good Lookin'" and two more originals ("Baby, Don't Call"
and "Sophisticated Mind")  Quite frankly, there's not one weak cut in the
whole album.

The group's second release "Swing Boogie" is a perfect follow-up, with some
scatting by *all* the ladies on the first track ("Matter Of Fact"), a genuine
Andrews' Sisters tune (Rock-A-Bye Boogie), a few instrumentals ("Jeanne-Marie
Stomp" and "720 In The Books") and the big-band-inspired title track.  No torch
songs here, alas; but they do a couple of bluesy self-written tunes (Deanna on
"Santa Cruz Blues" and Denise on "Cross-Country Blues") that cook nicely.  
Deanna also sings lead - with the girls lending layered harmonies - on a
well-crafted cover of Dan Fogelberg's "Morning Sky".

Sadly, Rounder Records has not seen fit to re-release the group's efforts on
compact disc, so the only copies of the Cowboy Jazz that I have are two vinyl
LPs which have been played only a few times to transfer the music to cassette.
If you come across a copy of either--and if you like your Western swing to 
*really* swing--then don't pass this band by!
				----------------
    
    
    							--Eric--

re: .541
    
> Ask most of these people if they've heard of a 
> group called "Cowboy Jazz" and the usual response is "??".  

Hey, they were a local band for me! (I live in Baltimore Maryland)

>Cowboy Jazz, who recorded two albums for Rounder Records in the early
>1980s, consisted of six members: Kate Bennett on rhythm guitar and vocals,
>Tony DeFontes on bass, Denise Carlson on fiddle and vocals, Charlie Crane
>(1st album) or Brian Alpert (2nd album) on drums, Deanna Bogart on piano
>and vocals, and Barry Sless on pedal steel and electric guitar.

Deanna Bogart has her own band nowadays.  I haven't heard them personally,
but I've heard that she plays swing, boogie and blues.

Barry Sless can often be seen playing steel and guitar with The Lone Starlets
(a wonderful band, two great female singers, they play a lot of swing and
blues) and with Marge Calhoun (a DC area country singer).  Barry's definitely
a wonderful player, both on steel and guitar.

I've seen Denise Calhoun play with Barry and Marge, but I'm not sure
what she's up to in general.  She's a great fiddle player, and kind of
does a "wild person" personna on stage.

I don't listen to "straight country" stations much, though I include country
among the many styles of music I enjoy. I've heard bits of a song once or twice
which has the lines

You've gotta sing
Like you don't need the money
You've gotta love
Like you'll never get hurt
You've gotta dance, dance, dance
Like nobody's watchin',
It's gotta come from the heart
If you want it to work

I'd love to hear the rest of this, with an eye towards doing it with a group I'm
in. Can anyone identify the title, artist, and maybe the album which has the song
on it?

Thanks-

	Bob

re: .543

>You've gotta sing
>Like you don't need the money
>You've gotta love
>Like you'll never get hurt
>You've gotta dance, dance, dance
>Like nobody's watchin',
>It's gotta come from the heart
>If you want it to work
>
>I'd love to hear the rest of this, with an eye towards doing it with a group I'm
>in. Can anyone identify the title, artist, and maybe the album which has the song
>on it?

Bob:

Don't know the title, but the artist is Kathy Mattea.

-Hal

> Don't know the title, but the artist is Kathy Mattea.

  It's "Come From the Heart", and I'm sure there are multiple recordings.
  
  I believe the original recording is by Guy Clark, on his CD "Old Friends".
  The only reason I assume it's the original is that it was cowritten by his
  wife Susanna(h).  Good song, lyrics show up in a lot of personal
  names/etc.    - Jay

Re last two:

Thanks, folks! I'll let you know if *we* ever record this one- it'll definitely
show up in our repertoire, though.

Bob

    
    	Weird Al does "Achey Breaky Song", ripping Billy Ray apart.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI

    
    
    
    I thought Billy Ray did a prety good job of ripping Billy Ray apart!
    
    

Closet Classics #2

				----------------

Not too many years ago, there was a station in Providence RI (WHIM) which
would invariably lead into its news breaks with a country instrumental -
a trend that is sadly lacking in radio today.  One musician who frequently
landed in that slot was pedal steeler Lloyd Green, a long-time member of
Nashville's "A" team of studio musicians.  He was - and still is - a highly
respected steel player whose work has stood the test of time well.

The earliest backup work I've heard of Lloyd Green was on the *original*
Johnny Paycheck albums, the ones he recorded for Little Darlin' Records in
the sixties.  These albums feature what Lloyd called "Billy Sanford (on guitar)
and me playing all those out-of-sight solos".  The playing was hard-hitting,
*very* edgy and electric, and reflected perfectly the energy that Paycheck so
often strove for in his music.

The next place Lloyd turned up was another small label - Chart Records - which
had an up-and-coming singer named Lynn Anderson.  Again, Lloyd's steel was
prominent in Lynn's early songs like "Ride, Ride, Ride".  (Aside: the label
must have been *low* budget, because they recruited Lloyd to write the liner
notes for Lynn's first album!!!!)

By this time, Lloyd was gaining a reputation among Nashville musicians as a
versatile steel guitarist; one whose playing would compliment but not over-
power a vocal.  He had toned down the "edge" in his playing and ended up
with a style and tone which A&R man Chet Atkins wanted for a new singer at
RCA: a young man named Charley Pride.  Lloyd's smooth steel work was the
instrumental equivalent of Charley's voice; the two blended perfectly.  The
epitome of this combo was Charley Pride's definitive live album "In Person"
in which Lloyd is the session leader.  Charley is clearly having a good time
on this album; he frequently calls Lloyd by name - and Lloyd's solos and
backup playing are nothing short of exquisite.

The early seventies saw a new turn in Lloyd Green's career.  Due to the
success of Nashville harmonica player Charlie McCoy, Monument Records gave
Lloyd the okay to record some instrumentals of his own.  Lloyd, who was
a big fan of jazz guitarist Wes Montgomery, had adapted Wes' technique of
playing octaves to the steel guitar.  Now he featured this technique on a
cover of Johnny Nash's "I Can See Clearly Now".  This tune became Lloyd's
first hit single as an instrumentalist, and the first tune of his featured in
WHIM's station break lead-ins.  This career as an instrumentalist led to a
nomination by the CMA as "Instrumentalist Of The Year" and several outstanding
solo albums in which he covered a diverse range of tunes: George Harrison's
"Here Comes The Sun", Roberta Flack's "Killing Me Softly With His Song",
Billy Swan's "I Can Help", Tanya Tucker's "San Antonio Stroll" and Glen
Campbell's "Rhinestone Cowboy".  On his album "Steel Rides", he covered the
Paul McCartney tune "Sally G" in a unique fashion.  McCartney's version
featured Paul on vocal, Lloyd on steel and dobro, Charlie McCoy on harmonica
and Johnny Gimble on fiddle - Lloyd's cover version has Johnny Gimble again
on the fiddle, Charlie McCoy playing harmonica and overdubbing a harmony line,
and Lloyd playing steel (vocal line), steel backup (the licks he played in 
the original) and the dobro bridge!  

Finally, mention must be made of the pedal steel design that bears his name.
A photo I have of Lloyd in his Paycheck days shows him playing a double-neck
Sho-Bud.  In his Guitar Player interview, he commented that "one day I took
a look and realized that I was using the top neck for all but maybe a half-
dozen sessions that year.  I thought 'Why am I lugging all this weight around,
anyway?', pulled out all the strings, tuners, pedals and hardware and mounted
a pad in its place."  The single-neck-on-a-double-neck-body became a hit with
many steel players who only required a single tuning, and was eventually
manufactured by Sho-Bud as the "L.D.G. (Lloyd Green) Model".  My second pedal
steel (acquired by trading a double-neck Emmons) was a Lloyd Green.  I still
have it, and play it out whenever I can.  It's a great pedal steel!

		----------------------------------------------

Since Lloyd's major recording work is in the sixties and seventies, it 
currently exists only on vinyl.  I have six of his solo albums and am keeping
them as pristine as possible.  However, the aforementioned live Charley Pride
album has appeared (albeit missing two songs, drat!) in CD; this is one way
of hearing this influential steel player at his finest.

					--Eric--

    Hi, Folks --
    
    Where's everyone been????  Probably the same place as I've been --
    buried under a stack of work...and then some.
    
    Anyway, I was wondering what folks thought of the "Common Threads"
    album?  This is a collection of "covers" of Eagles hits by current
    country artists.  What I've heard on the radio -- about 4 different
    cuts from the album (CD) -- has sounded pretty good.  The covers are
    pretty true to the original arrangements.  Some sound better than the
    originals.  It has been interesting to hear Suzie Boggus and Tanya
    Tucker cover what we're used to hearing as "guy" songs.  
    
    Sooo, I've bought a couple CDs as Christmas gifts.  One is for my
    brother who is on the verge of "converting" to country music.  I
    thought this would be a good transition album for an old-time rock 'n
    roller.
    
    Would like to hear from anyone who's listened to the whole album or
    more than what has been on the radio.
    
    Thanks,
    --Terri

    Just FYI - - - 
    
    The Tiki Lau in Westford was written up in the latest issue of the MCMAA.   
    Seems the manager has decided to try out country music after the first of 
    the year in January.  
    
    If anyone hears of what bands will be rolling through the Tiki, I'd
    appreciate a note.
    
    Thanx ..... d.
    
    

    Yo, Dan,
    
    Let me know if the Tiki starts serving anything resembling edible
    substances  8^)
    
    							Brian

    RE: -1
    
    Yo Brian!
    
    That would take some doing!  
    
    If you end up performing there - pack a snack!

    re .554, too bad it doesn't have good food either! :-)
    
    Lorna  (spent enough time in LKG3) :-)
    

    lorna,
    
    i think yangtze river has GREAT food.  
    
    i think it is weird that we are talking about chinese
    food in the country section of the music file >: )
    
    blind willis

    Hey, there's a whole subculture in MA based on music being played in
    Chinese restaurants.  I've done a few of these myself...anybody out
    there been at the Golden Lion or the 12-20 in Auburn?   
    
    It's almost like a circuit  8^)
    
    							Brian

    Ahh, The Golden Lion...I played there a lot during the mid-80's with
    The Jakes & Webster Band and U4EA....saw some "almost" fights, and a
    very interesting crowd usually...
    
    The Tiki Lau, man, so many other places of the sort

    >chinese food and country music
    
    Willie, I am glad you couldn't make it to lunch.
    Chinese food AND country music, yuck !
    
    Listen, PKO, has great artichoke salad, give it a try.
    
    While we are on food, I finally found a difference between Canada
    and US that is worthwhile to mention: Large coffee in Canada is
    smaller than small coffee in US.
    
    ;-)
    
    Lale

    re .556, I worked at LKG for over a year and had lunch at the Yantze
    too many times!  :-)  I don't like the buffet, but some of the stuff on
    the regular menu is okay, esp. the chicken with curry & onions.  And,
    it is conveniently located, a little *too* convenient.  I had lunch
    there at least once a week for over a year!!
    
    How about Chopsticks in Leominster?  I was there a couple of months ago
    and they had a band in the lounge.  At least the food is good there!
    :-)
    
    Lorna
    

    lale,
    
    that coffee thing is easily explained.
    a metric large is equal to a u.s. small ;-)
    
    TWO has artichoke hearts on their salad bar :-)
       
    Wee Lee

    Yeah - right ---- great mix --- Chinese Restaurants and Country music -
    - it's the rage ----- and now it's your local bowling alley and Country
    music.
    
    Crazy!
    
    

    Bowling! Does the band set up right in the lane or what?  8^)  8^)
    
    Hey, what about the short-lived marriage between roller rinks and heavy
    metal poseur bands?
    
    							Brian

> Bowling! Does the band set up right in the lane or what?  8^)  8^)

Don't laugh too hard.... ask db about playing at the B&L Bowl in beautiful
downtown Hillsboro!

alan

    Yes, what a trip that was.  Especially the occasional noise "leakage"
    from the alleys while you're trying to do a serious tune:
    
    
    	"Some folks like to get away [ching.....]
    	 take a holiday [bmmmfp....rrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRR *CHING* "DAMN!"]
    	 from the Neighborhood...
    
    	 Take a flight from Miami beach [Bmmmmpp...rrrrrRRRRRRRRR
    		pa-Chink!]"
    
    etc. etc.
    
    Another thing about "beautiful downtown Hillsboro" that'll really
    scare ya:
    
    		Alan Starr is without a doubt, the most normal looking
    		person there!!!!!!!
    
    ;-)
    
    	db

    ..hey believe it or not, i lived in hillsboro for three years.....and 
    there aren't any normal people there .......alans an import isn't he?
     ..;')_....../k

    
    Ran across the following out in cyberspace -- seems like even PCs now
    are switching over to C&W music...  I bet Brooks & Lovett have been
    using something like this all along...besides, who ever heard of a
    country player with a college degree???   *8')
    
    
    
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    From:  CWest1234
    
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    What makes country music, country music?
    
    Is there a certain style, instrument, beat?
    
    I say if I hear twangy guitar or sing-songy voice, I call it
    country music.
    
    A friend and I debate over whether a song is country or just
    an acoustic guitar-based easy listening song.
    
    Lisa #24

    Lisa,
    
    Country contains some sounds from the slide guitar, fiddle. I quess
    there clothes can state that they are singing country.
    
    Mike
    

    Nowadays, that's a tough call because what passes for "country" on the
    radio is everything from smooth pop to hard rock, with a little of the
    "old-style" country tossed in.
    
    In general, country music can be identifed by certain stylistic
    cliches: instrumentation (steel guitar, fiddle), vocal style (nasal
    twang), meter (two-steps, swing and waltzes), subject matter (cheating
    songs, songs about family, songs about God) and point of origin
    (Nashville, Bakersfield, Tulsa, Austin).
    
    Of course, I might add that trying to categorize music is only useful
    for helping explain what the music sounds like to someone else when
    they can't simply hear it.  Categories don't really have any purpose
    beyond that.
    
    							Brian

    >>subject matter (cheating songs, songs about family, songs about God)
    
    Brian, you forgot to include beer, pickup trucks, dogs (dawgs), country
    life itself, bars, love, other country singers, and friends in low
    places)
    
    8*)
    
    

    According to David Allen Coe, the "perfect country song" has to include
    saying something about:
    
    	1. mama
    	2. prison
    	3. trains
    	4. trucks
    
    	and
    
    	5. gettin' drunk
    
    Steve Goodman heeded this advice, and as a result, re-wrote "You Never
    Even Call Me By My Name" into the perfect country song.....
    
    ;^)
    
    						--Eric--

    
    	Hi There All,
    
    
    	    Haven't been in this file in some time, I guess it's become
    rather quiet. 
    
    	    Anywy, just thought I'd say hi..
    
    
    Rose..
    

    Howdy Partner!