Conference 7.286::sports_91

    
    
    Football is blood, tears, sweat, pain.  If you want something else, go
    to a chess match.
    
    - Bears Head Coach Mike Ditka

    JD, can any quote go in here?
    
    My favorite is "Watching baseball is like watching something rust"
    
    Conan
    

	The glory is not in never falling, but in rising
		every time you fall.

				-- Vince Lombardi


	

	SPORTS is a microcosm of life.....

			-- The Chainsaw

	

    
    "Dave"???  This is Jaynnne!  Rememberrr?  Last night you said I was
    
    a GOOD SPORT!!!!
    
    
    
    
    ;^)
    
    kev
    

    
    	When in doubt ,whip it out
    
    
    	Pee Wee Herman
    
    Cadzilla

    
    "Your mother."
    
    	Every person that ever played football
    

    "Don't ever let your schoolwork interfere with your education."
    
    	- My dad upon leaving me at my dorm during Freshman Orientation at
    	  WPI.
    
    Mark.

    
    Football is blood, tears, sweat, pain.  If it isn't football, it's
    probably PMS.
    
    Dickstah
    

    
    
    He drinks too much coffee to ever be at ease.
    
    Michigan OT Greg Skrepanak on the pressure Gary Moeller feels as head
    coach of the Wolverines.

    
    "AAAAEEEEEEEEEEiiiiiiiiiiii....OOCH!  OUCH!!!!!
    SUMBITCH!!!!AAARRRRGH!!!........DAMN!"
    
    -Evil Kneival at Caesar's Palace
    

	"Don't talk the talk, if you cain't walk the walk"

				-- Mike Tyson --

    
    
    "..this MAGIC moment....."
    
    
    				-- Jay & the 'mericans
    
    ;^>
    
    Kev
    

    
     "I said to him 'Son, I don't know if your problem is ignorance or
     apathy' and he says 'Coach, I don't know and I don't care'."
    
                                   _Frank Layden

    	Aack, Aack, Gag...
    
    	-Snuffy

    Are you natural stupid or do you have to practice to be this stupid?
    
    My wife talking to Metropolitan Insursnce Rep.
    
    REK

    Looks like REK has been taking some Dinz typing lessons!

    re.11
    
    VERY SERIOUSLY ROLLWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
    
    JaKe
    

    
    " Politics is like coaching football. You have to be smart enough to
    understand the game and stupid enough to think it's important."
    
                             -Eugene McCarthy

    There's going to comes a time where I think the greed of athletes is
    going to destroy all sports.
    
    George Brett, part time owner of a minor league hockey team, commenting
    on the possibility of a NHL player's strike.
    
    JD

 "He's not zipping his balls with any power today."
 
 - Randy Cross, CBS commentator, on Eagles' quarterback Jim McMahon's
 poor performance in yesterday's loss to Phoenix.
 
 Bob Hunt

>
> "He's not zipping his balls with any power today."
> 

Perhaps he should purchase a /Don Self-Help Video.....

    ADRIANN  AAADDRRIIEEN, ADRIAN...
    
    Rocky's 1-5

    "It's not whether you win or lose, until you lose."
    		- Vince Lombardi

    His agent guaranteed me on the phone it was the best shape that he's
    ever been in.  Well, that was a lie.  He did say you've never seen him
    in this kind of shape.
    --
    
    Jerry Glanville on running back Mike Rozier, who has been running with
    the offensive tackles at the end of practice since reporting to camp
    out of shape.

|    Jerry Glanville on running back Mike Rozier, who has been running with
|    the offensive tackles at the end of practice since reporting to camp
|    out of shape.

Wow...that is outta shape.  That's like one of the wings reporting to
practice and having to run with us props...  Wow!

'Saw

    "How Much Time is Left"
    
    Dean Smith

    " I wuz doin' pretty good, but that Jim Masters, he wuz too much hot!"
    
    Sports interview, Melvin Turpin on Jim Masters, U.K. 1983

    If my doctor says I can play, believe me, you'll see me out there
    getting the (guts) kicked out of me, or me kicking the (guts) out of
    somebody else.
    
    - Bo Jackson discussing his one-time winter hobby, football, with
    reporters.

    
    "Hey, Howard, he's tellin' y'all that the Oilers are #1 "
    
    Dandy Don Meredith to Howard the Mouth on MNF telecast, early 70's
    when, at H's request, the TV cameras panned the crowd looking for
    a typical Oiler fan, who quickly gave the finga to the cameraman.
    
    
    "You done give me a promotion"
    The late, great, University of Alabama head football coach and athletic
    director, Bear Bryant, to Brent Hamburger, late 70's when introduced
    on TV as:
    "The athletic director at the University of Notre Dame."
    
    
    MikeL
    

    "Better make it six, I don't think I can eat eight."
    
    Yogi Berra, when asked if he wanted his pizza cut into 6
    slices, or 8 slices.
    
    Tony Santucci

    Heard on the radio today:
    
    Mike Tyson:  "I respect women, my mother was a women"
    
    (Could have fooled me....)
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    	"WAAH, WAAH, WAAH..."
    
    	-Matt Young

    
    "I never thought I'd mention Pee-wee Herman and Mike Tyson in the same
    thought, but when Pee-wee was arrested for the ultimate victimless
    crime, his sponsors and network jumped ship in a New York heartbeat. 
    With Mike Tyson, everyone is hanging onto him  for dear life because
    two commas and nine figures are involved.  That says something about
    our society."
    
    ESPN's Charlie Steiner
    
    

    
    "Jackie Slater is living proof that they played football in prehistoric
    days.  I've even seen the calluses on his feet where he used to stop
    his car like Fred Flintstone."
    
    - LA QB Jim Everett on Slater - the Rams 37-year-old offensive tackle.

    
    The "ultimate victimless crime"?  Charlie said that?  Rollward...
    
    glenn
    

    	Charlie Steiner commenting on the Yankees marketing slogan The
    Magic is Back...
    
    	"The magic is *way* back"
    
    				/Don

    "Nice tan."
    
    		- My wife to one of the aforementioned German hard-bodies 
    		  in St. Barth's, May, 1991.
    
    

    "I can see now why Joe Paterno was the Sports Illustrated Sportsman of
    the Year"
    
    - Pats coach Dick MacPherson - who continues to have a feud with
    Paterno, even after leaving Syracuse - making reference to Penn State's
    8-0 romp over Cincinnati...

    
    > "I can see now why Joe Paterno was the Sports Illustrated Sportsman of
    > the Year"
    > 
    > - Pats coach Dick MacPherson - who continues to have a feud with
    > Paterno, even after leaving Syracuse - making reference to Penn State's
    > 8-0 romp over Cincinnati...
    
    My nomination for Unjustifiable Cheapshot of the Year...
    
    glenn
    
    

    "My opponents call me the Hawk because they are chicken and are running
    from me."
    
    - WBC middleweight champeen Julian Jackson, who knocked out #1 ranked
    Dennis Milton in 1 1/2 minutes Saturday night in Vegas...
    

    "It's like golf.  The 5-yard line is the green, and the end zone is the
    trap."
    
    - Philadelphia Eagles punter Jeff Feagles, who leads the NFL with punts
    inside the 20, hit three against Dallas Sunday to bring his total to
    11.
    
    

       Too bad the Pats caint get a punter like Feagles, eh?
                                    Denny ;^)

taken from Clarinet:
    
   "Other than [not having] Mario, who I think is maybe the best player 
    in the world right now, I think we were a much better team [this year] 
    than in 1987."
    
    	  Wayne Gretzky commenting on Canada's 1991 Canada Cup team.
    
    
    

       Paterno doesn't leave all his starters in to pad stats for Heisman
    considerations.
                                 Denny

    
    
    "It's like a 360-degree turnaround.  I mean a 180-degree turnaround.  I
    only went to high school."
    
    - Atlanta pitcher Steve Avery caught his mistake as soon as he made it
    in describing the difference between this year and last year, when the
    Braves were in the cellar.
    
    

    "We've only got two or three losses left.  If we lose three more games,
    we won't have any left, because they'll put one of those things
    (asterisk) next to us in the standings."
    
    - Sparky ANderson on the TIgers losing ground to TOronto in the AL East
    pennant chase..

       Yeah the Tigers are quite a machine eh? Losing their biggest games
    of the year. To the Indians of all teams!!
                                   Denny

    
     "We'll win more than we lose."
    
                      _Dick Williams, Bosox manager on the teams chances
                       prior to the '67 season.

    "Can you imagine them telling Hale Irwin it would cost him a stroke for
    high-fiving the crowd at the Open?"
    
                     -CBS' Randy Cross, on the NFL's ridiculous ban on
                      celebrations.
    
                            

    
    "Coach, let's talk about your record." "Hey, man, I didn't know she was
    fourteen!" " No, No, not THAT record."
    
    Basketball Jones, Cheech and Chong
     
    

Bart to Homer (who's in an insane asylum with a big white guy who thinks
he's Michael Jackson):
	
	"Homer, whatever they're giving you, cut the dose."

TTom

    "I reserve the right to change my remarks when I get to Los Angeles. 
    And then tomorrow I'm going to be in Chicago..."
    
    - Prez Bush drew cheers, then laughs, in Portland, Ore., after he
    qualified his remarks about looking forward to greating the Trail
    Blazers at the White House nexted Spring after they win the NBA
    Champeenship...
    

    "Playing Golf ruins a nice walk in the woods"
    
    		
    					Robert Frost

    "That's a plateau they're going to have to cross."

    Bill Parcells talking about how the Steelers will improve in the near
    future.  Excuse me, Bill, but crossing a plateau means you go downhill
    again.  A plateau is something one reaches in time.

 "Uh-oh."
 
 Bill Parcells immediately upon noticing that recently-acquired Eagles
 wide receiver Roy Green had entered the game in the 2nd quarter.   
 Parcells like all recent NFC East coaches, of course, have vivid and
 painful memories of Roy Green's best days with the Cardinals.
 
 Parcells' dread was prophetic for the Steelers as Green ran wild in
 the Steelers' secondary.
 
 Bob Hunt

    "They don't give you any more money whether you win by three or one."
    
    -  Mike Hill, who bogeyed the final two holes yeet held on to with the
    Nationwide Champeenship by 1 stroke on Sunday.

            Comedian Billy Crystal introducing Jordan on a one-hour NBC
    salute Friday night:
            ``There are few people who can capture the hearts of the world
    at age 26. I was 28 before it happened to me.''
     

	"Thank You, California Angels"

		- Numerous Boston Red Sox fans this morning     

    "The record says we're mediocre.  We were mediocre the year before, and
    the year before that.  We've only been able to be competitive with
    mediocre football teams.  I'm not saying that, the record is saying
    that."
    
    - Mean Joe Greene, Defensive Line Coach of the Steelers.

    "I just want one win.  I don't want to go 0-16.  That would be my worst
    nightmare."
    
    - Colts RB Eric Dickerson

	"So what if the Doc said 'No', I'm goin' to anyway.  Who's
	 got some white athletic tape?"


					- Chainsaw, after the Doctor
					  told him to go fishing instead
					  of playing rugby....

    Dickerson doesn't know the meaning of worst nightmare until he's seen a
    picture of my ex-mother-in-law!
    
    lEl

    "I had my baseball bag away until spring training.  I had to go wake it
    up.  I said, 'Wake up, we're going back out there.'"
    
    - Deion Sanders after deciding to rejoing the Braves while continuing
    as the Falcolns CB.
    
    

    re .80
    It's ba-aack..
    

    
    "That guy's so frikken thick he'll probably go off all hopped up and
    play that hooligan game no matter what I tell him."
    
                       
                                      -Dr. Seuss, Chainsaw's sports doctor
    

    
     "I don't know what kind of doctor I am but watching all these beauti-
     ful sisters here, I'm debating whether I should be a gynecologist".
    
                       -Mike Tyson, two years ago upon receiving an 
                        honorary doctorate from Central State Univers-
                        ity. As quoted in Sports Illustrated.
    

    
    
    "they look like my daughter got a hold of some crayons and designed
    them."
    
    - Charles Barkley, speaking about the 76ers new uniforms (which
    haven't been unveiled publicly)

    "Sometimes Quarterbacks get hit.  But that's the price you pay for
    getting your name in the paper and having all the pretty girls hanging
    around you.":
    
    - Florida Coach Steve Spurrier, talking about the phsical pounding QB
    Shane Mattews took in the game vs.  Mississippi State.

    "In a way, you have something to look forward to only if you lose. 
    After we won the Super Bowl, I looked over at Charlie Waters and
    whispered, 'But who do we play next?'  When you win the Super Bowl - I
    hesitate to say it - you're depressed."
    
    - Ex-Dallas Cowboys safety Cliff Harris.

I think that's why so many teams fail to repeat.

You've reached the absolute pinnacle of success in your sport.
The motivation you've used to get to that point has consisted
of 

	a) wanting to be the best

but also
	
	b) what psychologist call the Pinball theory.


which means that if you play the game well, you get to play it again.


Once you win the Bowl, or the Series or whatever, there are no more
games to play.  Part of your motivation is suddenly gone.  And
part of you realizes that it's over.

You realize that you have to start again from scratch, and that is
difficult to deal with.

Somehow the glow of being the champion is tainted (or maybe tempered
is a better word) at the fact that the quest is over.


	Let not the brilliance of the goal outshine
	the enlightenment of the journey.

The journey is over.  


that, I think is why it's depressing......


'Saw

    'Saw,
    That's why I have undying respect and awe for the Celtic dynasty teams
    late 50's through the 60's
    
    MikeL
    

    
    
     "Art Monk is alot like Katherine Hepburn..."
    
                    -Al Michaels, during last nights MNF broadcast
                     in a rather poor effort at trying to describe
                     how one of the league's great receivers has 
                     toiled in relative anonymity.

>I think that's why so many teams fail to repeat.
    
    On that note:
    
    "This team hasn't peaked yet."
    
    	- Chuck Noll while running off the field after his third super
    	  bowl win.  A year later, they beat the Rams.
    

And you have to agree then dan'l, that's why repeating is such a
special thing.....

  Well you can lie to me, and I imagine you do. If nothing's right, what's
  wrong? That's what I like about you....

   David Byrne boombox player for Talking Heads...

    
    >	b) what psychologist call the Pinball theory.


    >which means that if you play the game well, you get to play it again.
    
...which makes the Red Sox veritable "Pinball Wizards."  Sing it kids: 
    "That deaf, dumb, and blind coach sure plays some bad base-ball..."
    
  Dickstah
    

       <<< Note 190.94 by MCIS1::DHAMEL "Dr. Seuss, M. Davis, R. Sox" >>>

    
|    >	b) what psychologist call the Pinball theory.
|
|
|    >which means that if you play the game well, you get to play it again.
    
Actually, Dickstah, there really is a psychological theory about that
condition.

It's been used to describe why hardware and software engineers go through
such heinous job related activities as all nighters during crunch mode
and stuff.

Fact is, they wanna get the product OUT the door, because all they
wanna do is turn around and play the game again....

I always knew we were weird....

8^)    

    Re: Doing it again.
    
    Kinda like the Myth of Sisyphus.  
    
    Sox are condemned to never winning that World Series.  Just as they
    *almost* get there they roll back to the bottom and start again next
    season.  Since that is the only thing that Red Sox fans know, they find
    enjoyment in it.  If they ever got that "rock" up over the hill, they
    wouldn't know what to do.  They would be out of they're natural
    setting.
    
    -Paul

    
    "Roger Clemens not only deserves the Cy Young this year, but also the
    MVP award.  Roger is more valuable to his team than any other player is
    to their's.  Why, all you have to do is look at the Red Sox record when
    Roger wins, and comapre it to their record when Roger loses."
    
                                      -Craig Mustard (sp?), WEEI Sports
                                             talk show
    

	"There's always basketball season."

			- All Tar Heels, after Saturday's football
				loss to NC State.

TTom

    "We started to taxi up in that magnificent new Air Force One, and
    there's a red carpet out to greet me.  Then I found out it was for Jim
    Mora."
    
    - Our moronic President in New Orleans Monday at a fund raiser for
    Louisiana Gov. Buddy Roemer...

	There was a real good article/interview in todays Boston Herald with
Dick Mac Pherson.  His brother (a priest) recently passed away.  There are 
plenty of good quotes in the article but this one says alot -

	"It just bothers me that we always seem to give the glory to the wrong 
people.  Teachers, priests - anyone in the business of helping others - rarely
get the credit that they deserve.  When I look at my brother's life and realize 
more people would want to be like me rather then trying to be like him, I find 
it sad, that's all.  To tell you the truth, I find it kind of scary, too."

Quotes by Bobby Bowden, from a_USA Today article on the kicking problems
of Florida St. 


	"My approach to adversity is to laugh at it."

(speaking of place kicker Dan Mowrey, who went 1-4 in PATs):

	"Everbody's had days like that. I had games like that myself, and 
	I told Dan so. At least, that's what I told him in our second 
	conversation."

	"Some of his blockers were in danger of being killed, he was 
	kicking the ball so low. I told him, 'Son, I don't mind you 
	missing right or left, but don't miss under."

TTom

       MAc also said on channel 4 the other day that he owes a lot to the
    media. He talked about Andy Warhol's "15 minutes of fame" comment. He
    said the New England press gave his brothers more than their 15 minutes
    worth the last couple of months and he was grateful for it.
                                     Denny

    "We put newspaper up over the pink and tried to get out of the locker
    room faster.  This is a log different and more serious than growing the
    grass higher, if you believe those who have done reserach in this
    ares."
    
    -Hawaii football coach Bob Wagner, discounting the fact that a pink
    dressing room played a part in his team's 28-16 loss to Colorado State
    last weekend.

Scientific studies have proven that the color pink has a profound effect
on the body, and it's strength abilities.

Weightlifters, lifting in pink rooms could only put up 30 pounds LESS
than their usual.

Pink is used in a lot of jails because of these studies, and it keeps
prisoner violence down.

One can understand then, why you'd put your visitors rooms pink.

Growing the grass on the field higher, might slow 'em down, but pink
will weaken them...that's the theory.

'Saw

PS  The other half of the coin is yellow.  Yellow is supposed to increase
    strength, or so the research shows....

    The part about the grass being longer refers to the friendly pregame
    disputes between CSU coach Earle Bruce and AFA coach Fisher DeBerry
    about CSU letting the grass grow long to slow down AFA's wishbone
    before AF-CSU game a month ago.
    
    There's probably a little more being made about the pink locker rooms
    because Hawaii played (and got killed) at Iowa last month, where they
    also have pink visitor locker rooms.
    
    Joe

I worked for a computer manufacturer that made a thing called a Pink
Noise generator. My recollection of the product was that it took White
Noise (all frequencies) and boosted the low end frequency - which are
harder to hear - and damped high frequency - which are easier to hear -
so that all the frequencies have the same apparent loudness.

TTom

    "My wife would probably give them all the plays.  With her, those boys
    come first."
    
    _ Fl. State Coach Bobby Bowden, saying he wouldn't want to coach
    against his sons.  Tommy is Auburn's offensive coordinator, and Jeff is
    So. Miss. Receivers coach.  As a side note, Auburn and So. Miss. play
    each other this week.

    When Oil Can Boyd played with the Sox and a thick fog rolled in from
    lake Erie and they had to call the game with the Indians: 'That's what
    they get for building a stadium next to an ocean'

Frank Layden, who considers Isiah Thomas's groaning about not being on
the Olympic basketball team a dig at John Stockton, Utah's point guard
who's on the team, addressing this to Thomas:

	"Because of your actions, nobody likes you. We see through the
	smiles. We see through all the baloney. We don't want you."

TTom

    Likewise to you Fat Boy (Layden) ....

I forget who it was (I read this in SI) but some National Leaguer was
find for disputing a strike call with an ump and getting
tossed.  I think the fine was like $500.

Anyway, when this guy wrote out his check, he put on the memo line:


		For the Prevention of Blindness


'Saw

    re .111
    
    
       Thats a good one!!!

       "Nice guys always finish lasted".
                            Leo Durocher, who died yesterday.

    "Has anyone realized that sheepskin is a key component in condoms and
    diplomas ?
    
    There's a great joke in that connection somewhere, but I'll be damned
    if I'll find it !"
    
    -Dr. Midnight appx 9:20am today 

    
     " You don't want to have a perfect game, then you'll have nothing to
    improve on "
    
    one time Patriot Greg Baty.

>    "Has anyone realized that sheepskin is a key component in condoms and
>    diplomas ?"
    
    
    Doc,
    
    You would only notice the similarity between the two if you happened to
    have graduated cum laude.
    
    
    hth,
    Paul (your curse on the Bilss was a week late in taking effect)

	"Am I in there or outta there?"

	 - Ex Red Sox manager Joe Morgan upon entering a conference
	 room with the Red Sox "brain trust"

    "I guess hindsight is 20/20, but I would like to have had some help out
    there.  At times I felt naked."
    
    - Bills OT Will Wolford on blocking KC LB Derrick Thomas

    
      "I wish him well and everything. He really didn't have much control.
     Not at all. It's hard when you go into a game feeling like you have to
     win in spite of the manager, but that's pretty much what it was. You
     go into a game feeling like you're already a run, a run and a half
     down. He's just not the ultimate warrior, that's all."
    
                    -Jack Clark, on Joe Morgan's departure 

    
    " If Eddie Andelman and Glenn Ordway know more about baseball than me,
      then, then,... I ought to be out wrasslin' cows or somethin"
                       Don Zimmer, Manager, Bosox, summer of 1979
    
    " No, well, those two guys won't be welcoming me back this time,
      that's for sure"
                       Don Zimmer, Newly hired 3b coach of Bosox, being
                       interviewed by Craig Mustard of WEEI, upon being
                       told that Andelman and Ordway had their own talk
                       shows on WEEI.
    
    " Hey, Zim, whatever you do, don't buy Penthouse magazine"
                       Globe sportwriter Jackie MacMullen interviewing
                       Zip on another talk show.
    
    
    MikeL
     
      

    
    
    "He treats us like men. He lets us wear earrings."
    
                       -Torrin Polk, University of Houston receiver
                        on his coach John Jenkins. From the October
                        14th issue of SI.

	"Providence claimed our fields at the tournament were too short
	and the posts too wide.  We beat them on their field, which was
	wide long, and with narrow posts.  Can't wait to ask [name of
	Providence rep to NERFU] just what their excuse was this time."

				- HWRFC Outside Center Frank Kraemer
				  after defeating Providence RFC
    
    

 " Now all the questions are going through everyone's mind. People are starting
   to think that maybe the NBA isn't as good as they thought and the Oylmpics
   aren't going to be so lopsided after all."

   Ervin "Buck" Johnson after the Lakers narrow victory in which they blew
   an 18 point lead...

  Yeah right Magic and the cow jumped over the moon....

  what Magic fails to point out is that it was his decrepitly old washed
  up Lakers out on the floor and the not High powered Slamma Jamma Oylmpic
  athletes out there...

    
    "The Jets need Walton Back"
    
    	From a phone call with JoJ this morning
    
    Big Game

    "He has to develop a lifestyle change about his eating habits.  We got
    him eating the seven basic food groups, and there's only three left
    now.  He thinks that a balanced meal is a Big Mac in each hand."
    
      
    - Orlando Magic President Pat Williams on 7-1 rookie Stanley Roberts,
    who arrived in training camp weighing more than 320 pounds.

    Saw this in a special by SI.
    
    Wilt Chamberlain said he noticed that McDonalds had sold X amount of
    burgers.  He said, "That averages out to 25 burgers per person.  I've
    never eaten even one, so somebody has to have 50 to make up for me."
    
    lEe  :*)

    
    
    "Hey boys, I'm going to go play in a shopping mall."
    
    				Murray Craven, after being traded 
    				   to the Lemmings.

Yeah, but you have to admit the Hartford Civic Center is a very nice
arena.

The seats are comfortable, and the view from even the cheapest seats is
really good.  (There is truth to the old saying that there is not a bad
seat in the house).

I haven't had a chance to see him play.  I hope he plays as well as
his brother Wes makes movies!  8^)

>		Wes Craven ? isn't that a city in the Nutmeg state ?

hahahahah....

Yes, in fact, that's where they make Craven Idols.... 8^)

    
    "The fire is still in my belly."
    
    Ralph Sampson after signing will the Bullets

"The fire is still in my belly."
    
    Ralph Sampson after signing will the Bullets


So's his heart! 



Steve

     "There are too many distractions - the instant replay, the rating
     system, the emphasis on going to the Super Bowl. They have just got
     to call the game and not give a damn about anything else."

                             -Ben Dreith, retired referee in this morning's
                              Globe on the problems with the officiating this
                              season.
    

       "Bronco fans were handing out freebie tickets outside Mile High
    Stadium, surely a first for these sick fans out here (Denver) who would
    pay to see the Broncos brush their teeth."
                                        Mike Madden
                                        Boston Globe columnist

    
     I'd say it sounds like this guy has a little green blood flowing.
    Envey is very ugly and it sure sounds like the guy is Enveyious (sp?)
    of Denvers winning ways.
    
    Big Game

    Chiefs' DE Neil Smith on why he'd rather play against Jay Schroeder
    than rookie Todd Marinovich or even veteran scrambler Vince Evans:
    "With Schroeder, we either sack him or he throws it to us."
    
    
    Joe

    Joe,
    
     Did he really say that...  Tooooo Funny,  I wonder how Wrong Way 
    feels about that little Jab.  Hey, whos starting against the Chiefs
    next week , Schroeder or Marinovich ??
    
    BG
    

      I heard they were bringing back pluncket;^

    RE -2  Todd or Jay?:

            Shell said......he isn't saying.  

                                                     Night Flier   ~~v~~  

>            Shell said......he isn't saying.  
       Probably because Al hasn't decided yet.
                                   Denny

    Doesn't matter who the Faids start at QB because KC's gonna whip 'em
    anyway.
    
    GO Chiefs!
    Beat the Faids AND Luckalo and bring the AFC Championship game to Denver!
    
    
    Joe                                                            

    re-1  ditto

    re: last 2 
    
    YES !!!
    
    Bring the game to Pile It High !!
    
    
    BG

re: last 3

Get real dudes

    
     " The last time I saw him he was a scab for three games in Atlanta."

                        -Cowboys defensive tackle Tony Casillas in a not so
                         complimentary tone on Lions QB Erik Kramer.


     " You're going to lose the game for them." 
                      
                        -Cowboys line backer Jack Del Rio in Detroit
                         QB Erik Kramer's face early in yesterday's game.


      " They like to talk a lot. They like to talk a lot in the papers but
        talk in the papers never won a game for anybody. I took it as a 
        challenge. They called me out."

                          - Erik Kramer after handing the Cowboys a serious 
                            ass whipping and putting a large dent in the
                            'wimpy-run-n'-shoot-team-can't-beat-a-smash-mouth
                             -team' argument.
    
    

    "I got a kid, Greg Goosen, he's 19 years old and in 10 years he's got
    a chance to be 29."  - Casey Stengel
			

	"Penn State doesn't belong in the Big Ten."

	- Bobby Knight in an interview on ESPN with Dick Vitale.

    
    Cause they win Bowl games???

I saw most of the Bobby Knight interview with Vitale lasted night, too.   
Knight pulled *no* punches as we've come to expect from him.   

He indeed did say (once again) that he couldn't figure out why Penn State 
wanted to join the Big Ten.  Apparently, Knight is very much concerned with 
the lengthy travel for the non-rev teams that will need to get between 
State College, PA, and the outer hinterlands of the Big Ten like Iowa and 
Minnesota.    He said he has a lot of respect for Paterno but thought he'd 
be better served by trying to make a conference out of schools like 
Syracuse, West Virginia, Rutgers, and Pitt among others.

Knight is also dead set against some of the new proposals coming down from 
the NCAA and the school presidents.   He hates the reduction in total 
number of games.   Better to cut practice time than game time, he said, if 
the issue is more study time.  Ask the kids, he said.   Does anyone 
think that a basketball player would rather have more games or less ???    

He also repeated some counter-proposals that I've heard him offer before ... 

1) Start the season during T'giving Break  ... no class time missed *that*    
weekend,
2) No game starts after 7:00pm ... time for everyone to get back to the    
books after the game,
3) Must play a game *every* weekend ... IU has 2 open weekends this season    
and Knight thinks it's a big waste of non-class time.

Vitale also asked him about the Cheaney, Anderson, and Bailey benchings of 
recent and Knight made it quite clear that they hadn't been playing well 
and that he felt he owed a commitment to their replacements who had worked 
hard and deserved the playing time.   Simple enough.   Nothing about 
embarrasment or humiliation or dark egotistical raving mad coach.    Player 
A was playing badly and Player B was ready to replace him.   And so he did.

Bob Hunt

No doubt that Bobby's a great interview....None of this speaking in cliches or
defering everything to the president of the university...

If I played college hoops he's a coach I would love to play for. You might hate
him on any given day but if you put out 100% he'd back you up all the way....

And when you stopped playing for him you'd probably look back and say he's the
best coach you ever played for.....

Is the 2nd part on tonight ?


Metz

    
     "Elway is Gawd"  
    
    The Three Wise Men   ;^)

    Big Game, I heard it was
    
    "Elway is Gawd"
    
    the Three Wise Guys  :*)
    
    lEe

    From my calendar...
    
    Richie Ashburn, Phillies OF, on why his 1950 Phillies never won another
    pennant: "We were all white."
    
    

Richie Ashburn was a real young player on the Phils' 1950 "Whiz 
Kids" pennant winner.   Unbelievably fast and played a helluva center field.  
He won a couple of batting titles in the Fifties and then wrapped things up 
with the expansion Mets in '62.

Now he does the color opposite Harry Kalas on the Phils broadcast team.   
As most baseball broadcasters go, he has a couple of favorite phrases and 
I've used a fwe of them in Notes from time to time ...

When things go really weird (as they often do for the Phils), Ashburn will 
almost always say to Kalas ... "Hard to believe, Harry."

If the Phils allow the opponent to load the bases with no outs, you can 
count on Ashburn to say ... "Tough way to play baseball, Harry."

And his Rizzuto-ish exclamation in times of great action is "Oh, brother!"

Admittedly, we're not talkin' earth shattering commentary here but he is a 
Philly institution and very much admired in town.

Bob Hunt 

>Admittedly, we're not talkin' earth shattering commentary here but he is a 
>Philly institution and very much admired in town.

Just proves you don't have to have superb commentary like Jack Whitaker
to be loved and respected....

8^)

'Saw

    
    
    	Former Washington Redskins running back John riggins on Super Bowl
    XXVI being played in the Metrodome:
    
    	"The game wasn't meant to be played in a warehouse."
    
    
    
    JaKe
    

    
     "Most people think a nose tackle has to have a big wide (butt), 
    with their shirttail hanging out and be slobbering all over the 
    place. They're right."
                          -Bills DL coach Chuck Dickerson talking
                           about nose tackle Jeff Wright.

>    
>     "Most people think a nose tackle has to have a big wide (butt), 
>    with their shirttail hanging out and be slobbering all over the 
>    place. They're right."
>                          -Bills DL coach Chuck Dickerson talking
>                           about nose tackle Jeff Wright.


Tommy,

Gotta love it, yessiree.


In fact, one of the BEST compliments I've had in ages was when John
Hendry told me I had an offensive lineman's stomach!


'Saw

    "I'd like the body of Jim Brown, the moves of Gale Sayers, the strength
    of Earl Campbell, and the acceleration of OJ Simpson.  And just once I
    would like to run and feel the wind in my hair..."
    
    -Rocky Bleier

>    "I'd like the body of Jim Brown, the moves of Gale Sayers, the strength
>    of Earl Campbell, and the acceleration of OJ Simpson.  And just once I
>    would like to run and feel the wind in my hair..."
>    
>    -Rocky Bleier



FINALLY!  A kindred spirit!!!!!


'Saw

    	"...and just once I would like to have some hair for the wind
    to blow through."
    
    -Charles Barkley

    I put this in the American _Football conference....but feel it belongs
    here as well............
    
    
    On WPIX (NY) news the other night (Monday)....
    
    The sportscaster uttered the following gem:
    
    "I flipped on the Pro Bowl last night and saw Ken O'Brien at QB for the
    AFC....I called the cable company to complain...they said they were
    aware of the error and were trying to correct it!!!!"
    
    
    
    Nelly

    "My wife came home from the doctor and he told her she had the body of
    a 22 year old.  I asked her what he said about her 50 year old Irish
    butt.  She replied that my name never came up."
    
    -Frank Layden
    

    "Is it really a surprise that Herschel Walker would excel in a sport
    where the idea is to go downhill?"
    
    -Bob Sansevere, St. Paul Pioneer Press
    

    Sportswriter Blackie Sherrod on Ted Turner's complaint that baseball
    salaries are too high:
    
    That's like Al Capone speaking for gun control...
    

    I'm working as hard as I can to get my life and my cash to run out
    at the same time.  If I can just die after lunch next Tuesday,
    everything will be perfect.
    
    - Pro golfer Doug Sanders

    
    "Son, you're gonna drive me to drinkin'
     If ya don't stop drivin that hot rod Lincoln."
    
    -Commander Cody and the Lost Planet Airmen
    

    "Why does it hurt when I pee?"
    
    
    Frank Zappa & the Mothers of Invention

    "Where was he when we were one game behind Toronto ? These
    guys have no clue what the real world is about. He doesn't
    realize that people are up here starving and out of work and
    they've got to listen to million-dollar ballplayers crying.
    Mike says he isn't stupid, but the more he talks, you can tell
    he didn't go to Harvard. These guys don't need a hitting coach.
    They need a shrink. I guess these guys who make 3 million dollars
    want to be told how good they are. Look in the mirror. I hope 
    they've got some pacifiers around that clubhouse."

                   _Richie Hebner, former Bosox hitting coach responding
                    to Mike Greenwell's comments that Sox hitters slumped
                    during Hebner's tenure.
    

    
     "It's pretty sad that after we win a game, my gut hurts, that I
    feel this way. Ya'll have done this to me because I haven't done
    it to myself."
    
     
                  _Mike Greenwell blaming the media for his
                   getting booed all game long by the Fenway 
                   faithful.

    
    
            "I can't even bring my three year old to the games any more.
    Because of the booing."
    
                             Mike"give me a crying towel"Greenwell

    	"@#$%^&* Mike Greenwell!"
    
    				/Don

    OK, I'll bite....what is Greenwell being blamed for by the media?
    
    Rich
    

    
    
                 Oh leaving umpteen men on base,missing routine
    flyballs,using his face as Mo Vaugns punching bag....etc...

       Wait'll the Sportsnoters get a hold a him nexted Monday!
                                                 Denny 8^)
    
    

    I, for one, feel bad for Greenwell....and any other ballplayer who's a
    lifetime .300+ hitter and productive at driving in runs (over his
    career....I don't buy the 'what have you done for me lately' BS, he's
    been far more productive in his brief career than he's been a failure!!
    
    Picture, if you will, 34,000 DEC customers (who, in effect pay your
    salary) showing up every day and surrounding your office......they boo
    your every move, insult you, your family and your manhood.....my
    feeling is that it would get very tiring very quickly!!!  Further, you
    find that the DTW has been running articles every week suggesting that
    YOU are at the heart of all DEC's troubles!!!  My sense is that you
    would not be enamored of the DTW for very long!!!
    
    Greenwell is the current Sox whipping boy and I think that sucks!!!  I
    don't think that there should be any whipping boys!!!  These athletes
    work hard and give their all....and get shit on for possessing human
    weaknesses!!!  And how can anyone shit on a guy for feeling the pain
    his three(?) year old feels when he hears thousands insulting his dad?
    
    
    :^(
    
    Nelly 

    Let's hold on a sec. What the hail has Greenwell done that merits
    such derision? I don't like him, but the fans are pretty merciless
    on him for what? For making mistakes(which he has)? Hell, I critcize
    him for instances like non-communication with Burks, throwin to the
    second basemam and not towards the cutoff man, but IMO he doesn't
    deserve all the BS he's getting.  I will agree that he acts and
    talks like a cement-haid at times, which may explain the derision,
    but I say easde up and let's see what he can do this year. They're
    gonna need his bat ( and *cring* his glove) to stay in the race.
    If this keeps up, he'll get run out of town on a rail with nothing
    in return.  And I think he's a dope for opening up and crying to the
    media. It'll only get worse,Mikey.
    
    This might be a real tough year for the ballplayers as far as fan
    reaction. In these tough economic times, the fans can't relate to the
    ballplayers because of the huge gap in average salaries. What's the
    average baseball salary,$800k vs the average guy bringing home, $35K??
    with prospects looking dimmer economically-speaking?  Every time a
    baseball player misses a fly/grounder, seems to dog it, he's gonna
    hear it bigtime from the fans.  With the relative inexpensiveness of 
    baseball tickets to other sports and the seemingly more people
    around who are unemployed who can get into games, can we be seeing
    a possible beginning of American hoolganism to rival the English
    soccer hooligans?  (In the bleachers, maybe, especially this Monday!)
    
    MikeL
    
    

 You gotta love BoSox fans.  Lifelong allegiance to the team, eternal
 optimism for next year, lots of great memories of Hall Of Fame players,
 and ...
 
 ...  a vicious mean streak against players who somehow don't tickle their
 fancies every waking moment of their lives.
 
 Contrast BoSox fans with Orioles fans for a second, if you will.  As the
 recent SI article on Camden Yards reminded us, in 1988, the O's fans
 joyously welcomed home their 1-23 stumblebums with a 50,000+ heartfelt
 sellout.   
 
 Never happen in Beantown and not 'cause Fenway don't seat 50K either.
 
 Bob Hunt

    Thanks for the update on Greenwell, folks. 
    
    In all the years I attended games at Fenway, I've seen many "fans" in
    the crowd resort to lunacy. Some of the crap that was thrown out at Jim
    Rice and George Scott was disgusting. As much as I had a dislike for
    Rich Gedman, believe me guys, the worse I yelled was "Hey Gedman,
    You're a Bum!" Real original stuff, I know, but, hey....
    
    Fenway fans have got to be some of the worst and best in the country.
    There are times I love 'em like in the Louie days and times I am
    ashamed. Recall what they did to Jim Eisenreich or to Micky Rivers.
    
    Seems many of these lunatics aren't happy unless they have someone to
    vent anger at. In some cases, that's OK but it can be taken to an
    extreme when the verbal attacks get vicious in nature.
    
    I take it the Globule has taken it upon itself to analyze, at this
    early stage what is wrong with the Sox. And it appears that they feel
    Mike Greenwell is it. Has nothing to do with a catcher who can't hit
    anymore, a total lack of team speed, DH's that are overpaid and don't
    produce. But, what the hey, 7 games are all that's needed to analyze a
    team, right?
    
    Rich
     

    Rich,
    You wouldn't believe the talk shows, either. Some of the callers/hosts
    want these guys to be PERFECT all the time. Unbelievable. You'd think
    they're all bums, and the season should be written off. 
    But I believe that the people calling in,booing, etc are a minority,
    yet a vocal one. Just like you mentioning Eisenreich and Rivers, those
    fans were a vocal minority who had no class. Yeah, and I've heard some
    nasty stuff in Fenway, as well as in Yankee Stadium and the Vet in
    Philly. Ignorant fans abound everywhere. I hope they remain a minority,
    even tho they are quite vocal.
    
    MikeL
    

                   
 > ...  a vicious mean streak against players who somehow don't tickle their
 > fancies every waking moment of their lives.
    
    The only fans that I've seen that come close are Philadelphia's (even
    New York is not in the same league, at least as concerns the home team). 
    Seriously; I'm not saying this just to yank your chain, Bob.  Maybe
    these two cities should have a contest to see who can run their ball
    club out of town the fastest.  With just two home games under their
    belts and the road suddenly looking very appealing, the Sox have taken
    the early lead.  The smart money would have to be on Fenway...
    
    Baltimore fans truly are the most forgiving I've ever seen, too.  Too
    much so, if that's possible.  The past and current owners have 
    neglected to even try to fill gaping holes, but Orioles' fans have
    proven that if you give them any reason to come out to the ballpark
    (like just to see Cal Ripken, for example), they'll do so and
    cheerfully root on a 90-loss team.
    
    glenn
     

    The Globe isn't blaming Greenwell. If anything the articles I've read
   are fairly sympathetic to him. Personally, I think Sox fans are over-
   rated as far as baseball knowledge goes. And there isn't any town, ex-
   cepting maybe New York, where the fans can be as downright vicious as 
   Boston. Maybe it's the terminal case of blue balls that makes 'em that 
   way but whatever it is, it ain't pretty. So what if Greenwell is dumber 
   than a box of rocks and just barely an average fielder. He's a hundred 
   per center as corny as I know that sounds. But it's got to be somebody's 
   fault that this team hasn't won a title since Lee Timmons was in high 
   school and this year I guess it's Greenwell's turn. Couldn't be the fact 
   that there are more blacks and hispanics in the Muscle Shoals clubhouse 
   than the Red Sox clubhouse. Nor could it be the fact that the Mass state 
   DPW has more team speed than the Red Sox. Naw it must be Greenwell's fault.
   Let's lynch the bastard.
    

    Tommy, small nit, but Lee Timmons was in high school long before the
    last Red Sox championship, more like during Lincoln's Gettysburg
    Address...
    
    HTH. [ISFH]
    
    Hawk
    

    	Hey, I'm not blaming Greenteeth for the club's problems 'cuz
    you could write volumes about that, but he hasn't taken anywhere
    near the abuse Stanley took and his whining to the press really
    turns me off.
    
    				/Don

    Yes, /Don, you bring up a good point. Stanley took a beating from the
    fans and never said a word. Was going through hell with one of his kids
    then, too, wasn't he?
    
    I don't know, I think a fan has a right to voice displeasure at the
    park. But where does the line get crossed?
    
    I recall going to see the Cardinals play the Padres once in St. Louis.
    I was there with some other DECcies from GMA and we got on Nettles a
    little bit (seeing that he used to be a Yankee). Well, the St. Louis
    fans sitting around us thought we wuz nutzo. I never understood why
    Garry Templeton accused the St. Louis fans of being vicious. They are
    very tame, IMO.
    
    Things have changed at Fenway. Bleacherites used to be the people who
    couldn't afford the grandstand but loved baseball. Sure, they were a
    little rowdy but they still concentrated on the game. Now, the
    overwhelming urge for many out there is to smuggle an inflatable rubber
    thing into the park and toss it around.
    
    The fans do the Wave regardless of who is on the field or at bat. I too
    question the fact that Boston continues to call their fans so
    knowledgeable. Fans in the know don't do these things.
    
    I've also been to pro football games in other cities. Although I have
    heard things have improved in Foxboro, Patriot games were the only ones
    I've been to where so many "fans" main objective was to get baked.
    
    

    Wasn't LeE the commencement speaker at Gettysburg ?
    
    As for Greenwell, the abuse he takes is just another reason IMO, why
    the Red Sox 'fans' get whatever they deserve as far as titles go - or
    the lack of 'em. They can't appreciate what they have, abuse players,
    and then excuse it by saying 'he makes $3,000,000, so he should be able
    to take it" ... give me a break.

Last season it was Matt Young, a month ago it was Roger (remember when he was 
late to spring training??), now it is Greenwell.  Mikey should just play his 
game and next month it will be someone else.

I don't think Greenwell deserves all the grief either, but like when a bully 
is beating up on the little kids, the more he screams the more attention he's 
going to get.  

I don't know where all the negativism is coming from either (I've always like 
Mike Greenwell the ball player; I don't know Mike Greenwell the person so I 
can't comment there), but if he concentrates on his game and plays like he's 
capable, the boos will turn to cheers.  The more he wines and lets it distract 
him, the longer it will last.

Scott

    
    I have it on good authority that lLe invented the wheel
    
    
    
    20 minutes later he was given the world's first speeding ticket!
    
    ta boom,
    
    Kev
    

    Four score and seven years ago, -
    
    Alright you clowns, have your fun.  But, I'll tell you what:  The core
    of the problem is the media.  I've said this a hundred times in here,
    the damn media pumps up the fans to where they feel they deserve a
    perfect season from every player and every team.  Yep, there's no
    excuse for any loss.  So, they have to find a scapegoat for each
    instance.
    
    Ever notice how they hype a young ballplayer coming up the minors? 
    Each one is the next HOF'er and a sure Gold Glove winner, not to
    mention his potential to hit homers each gane and drive in the winning
    run.  Or, if he's a pitcher, capable of a perfect game each outing,
    while leading the league in ERA and wins.  More young players have been
    ruined in Boston because of this than any other reason.  This has been
    going on for some time, and I can recall lots of this crap from the
    50's and on up.  And that is precisely why I've never been a Sox fan,
    although I do like many of the players and enjoy watching them.  I like
    Boggs, a real Boston favorite, and Burks, who was gonna be traded this
    spring, and Clemens, who doesn't care about his team only himself, and
    Jim Rice who never ever said he was the greatest but that's what was
    expected of him, and Ted Williams, who has the balls to tell the press
    to go to Hell.  And lot's of others.  How about Jimmy Piersall, one of
    the very best defensive centerfielders to ever play the game?  The man
    was sick, yet he took a lot of abuse even when he performed.  
    
    I didn't see it, but I've read many times that Pesky did NOT hold the
    ball in the Series which allowed the winning run to score.  Or tying
    run, I can't remember.  Anyway, it's been reported that he did, and so
    it's the truth.  Never mind about what other ball players say about
    that play, what do they know about the game, right?  I know for a fact
    that each and every Sox fan would have made that play.  And, naturally,
    that they would have played as well as Pesky did to earn that spot so
    they could be there when it occurred.  Right.
    
    Jackie Jensen was a hell of a player, both on the field and at the
    plate.  But, because he had a fear of flying, some writers made him out
    to be a malingerer, or a sicko, not a team player.  
    
    I couldn't stand certain guys who didn't perform but were the media and 
    fan favorites, such as Don Buddin, and Norm Zauchin, and Billy Consolo 
    and ole Stonefingers, and some others.
    
    I don't blame the fans (in general) for anything except for blindly
    following the media lead and then thinking that they (fans) are
    experts.  The call-in shows are murder.  Every caller has the answer,
    from dumb and stupid trade ideas, to second-guessing the manager and
    general manager.  Not one of them has their career on the line for any
    of their wacky ideas or proposals.  But they sure think they have the
    right to criticize professionals.
    
    How much semi-pro ball have most of these writers and reporters played,
    anyway?  What the hell do they know about the sport and the pressure?
    
    Yeah, they all spout off about the huge salaries, and I get upset about
    it, too.  But, don't blame the players for taking the money.  If some
    wacko owner wants to give millions to a pitcher who doesn't even have a
    career winning record, then blame the owner and the admin, not the man.
    
    Let's put ourselves in Greenwell's place, okay?  Would you decide that
    you haven't performed as well as you thought you should, so you're
    gonna give back a huge chunk of your salary, or give it to charity?  Or
    bench yourself, or suggest that another player should start before you? 
    Or that you should be selling cars or beer?  Right.  We all would.  I
    would definitely tell Sullivan that I don't deserve megabucks, just
    give me 50K, with medical and dental and 3 weeks vacation.  Sure I
    would.
    
    I'd prefer the days when the papers and the electronic media just
    reported the damn game.  Interviews with the players where they were
    asked to comment on the game and their performance.  And that's about
    it.  They wouldn't then be the personalities that they are now, and we
    wouldn't get on them as badly as we do if some jerk writers personal
    feelings weren't put forth as gospel.
    
    Ole lEe

    	Hey Ole Lee, you are kidding about the days when the media just
    reported the game?  A certain Boston writer who called himself a
    colonel (Eagan) took particular delight in tormenting one of baseball's
    greatest hitters (Williams).  And the New York media equated Joe
    DiMaggio with the Lindbergh kidnappers when he held out one spring
    for more money.  Some things don't change.
    
    				/Don

    
       " A lot of so-called fans here, they're not real basketball fans.
       But going to the Lakers was the glamorous thing to do. You can tell
       because they don't come to see the exciting teams. I think real fans 
       anywhere would come out to see Utah play, but not when they play
       here. Fans here used to come to see the Lakers, not basketball. When
       Magic left, it was a fan disaster."
    
                      _Jim Goldstein, a Los Angeles basketball fan who
                       holds seasom tickets for both the Lakers and the
                       Clippers, on decreased attendance at Lakers' games.

 maybe we should change it to /OldDon?????  ;^)

       Laker fans are mostly front runners, as are a lot a LA fans. They
    even left in droves after the 7th inning of a no-hitter at Anaheim a
    few years ago. the 'in' thing is to arrive late and leave early. 
       Sadly, (or NOT if you want tickets) the same thing may happen when
    Larry retires in Boston.
                                    Denny

 I certainly hope so Denny. Then I'll be able to go to games again with my
 friends, or kids when I feel like.

 78 and 79 were a treat. Drive down gameday get great seats and the crowd 
 cheered like crazy cause we loved the game. Now a days if Larry isn't making
 a play the fans can be pretty subdued...

 mike

       ...could get playoff tickets the day of the game in '76.
                                Denny

    Ole noD\, those type of writers were certainly in the minority.  And,
    of course, no call-in shows or hosts trying to rouse the rabble.
    
    Most of the writers were friendly with the players and travelled with
    them.  They wouldn't put in something negative about a player's
    personality, or his performance.  The negative jabs were saved for the 
    visiting team.
    
    The so-called Colonel actually make Ted more likeable to many fans,
    cause the fans didn't like that type of crap to be written about their
    sports stars.  Sold a lot of papers, I'll admit, and basically it was
    picked up  by another jerk named Gillooly when Egan died.  Same target,
    same type of ammo, still sold papers.  
    
    lEe

heard or saw somewhere, concerning Tark going to the Spurs:

	"Now, he'll be able to sign Lloyd Daniels"

TTom

 Doug Collins made that comment the other night during the game...of course
 he could have read it somewhere and passed it on...

    LeE,
    
    Your reference to the 50's......was that the *19*50's?
    
    
    Deen to wonk,
    
    Nelly

10 reasons why Michael Spinks is un-retiring:

 1. If 42-year-old grandpa Lary Holmes can climb out of his fishing boat 
    (rocking chair?) long enough to make $7 million after a few tuneups, 
    what about the guy who beat him twice?
 2. Evander Holyfield can't get no R-E-S-P-E-C-T.
 3. Butch Lewis could use a ruffled shirt to go with that tux.
 4. George Foremand has mold on his gloves (and his jokes).
 5. Leon needs new caps.
 6. Trever Berbick is on Pluto and he isn't coming back.
 7. Mark Gastinueau has a bull's-eye painted on his forehead.
 8. At 35, he is still one clever, dangerous dude in the ring.
 9. Boxing can always use a class act.
10. Mike Tyson can't get a weekend pass.

    I was scanning through a book in a bookstore the other day with a title
    something like, "Great Baseball Goats" or something like that and a
    page was devoted to Pesky.
    
    It stated that, after that game in 1946, the reporters were all over
    the clubhouse asking players what they thought, who's fault it was,
    etc.
    
    Pesky yelled out, "Why don't you just write down that I blew the game
    by holding the ball too long".
    
    Only one lunkhead ran with that quote and from that day on, Pesky has
    been depicted as the goat.
    
    Rich
    

 from Marv Albert about the Chicago/NY game this sunday nite starting at
 6:30 pm :

 "This is a great break for the nation, to put the Csar of the Telestrator
  up against 60 minutes is excellent counterprograming."

From Charles Barkley, responding to complaints about the Dream Team's
domination of the competition:

	"Japan makes the best car; Italians make the best clothes.
	Why can't we be the best at something, too?"

TTom

    Italians do NOT make the best clothes...Aussie's do.
    
    Mark.

				WHY MEN RUN
				-----------


	People may wonder why young men like to run distance
	races.  What fun is it?  Why all that hard, exhausting
	work?  Where does it get you?  Where's the good of it?
	It is one of the strange ironies of this strange life
	that those who work the hardest, who subject themselves
	to the strictest discipline, who give up certain pleasureable
	things in order to achieve a goal, are the happiest men.
	When you see 20 or 30 men lined up for a distance race in 
	some meet, don't pity them, don't feel sorry for them.  Better 
	envy them instead.  You are probably looking at the 20 or 30 
	best "bon vivants" in the world.  They are completely and
	joyously happy in their simple tastes, their strong and
	well-conditioned bodies, and with the thrill of wholesome
	competition before them.  These are the days of their
	youth, when they can run without weariness; these are their
	bouyant, golden days, and they are running because they
	love it.  Their lives are fuller because of this competition
	and their memories will be far richer.  That's why men love to
	run.  There is something clean and noble about it.



						Brutus Hamilton
						Head Coach, University of
						Calif. and the 1948 
						Olympic Team

Some Gems:

From Andy Van Slyke, on the Atlanta Braves:

"They've got a lot of talent, good pitching, and an ex-president who can jump."


And of coruse, Charles Barkley:


"The opening ceremony was too long, but it was exciting.  It was amazing to be 
there.  I mean, seeing the native costumes of some the countries was exciting.
I took a picture of everbody's outfit.  I don't have a camera, but someone gave 
me one, and I bummed film off other people.  I should have some pretty nice
pictures."

"Security is a problemfor us, but I'm not going to sit in my room like these
other guys.  They're telling us don't leave the hotel without security.  I
have my own security:  my two hands.

"People are asking for a lot of autographs, but that's all cool.  This is a 
once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, so I'm not going to sit in my room.  The other 
guys don't like getting bothered, but I'd rather walk around and get bothered
then sit in my room for two weeks like an idiot."

From Roland Solae, cafe-bar owner, near the Ambassador where the dream team 
is playing. (FWIW, the Ambassador is in a low-income neighborhood.")

"We don't want a special situation for the Dream Team.  The are like kings.  We 
live here all our lives.  We are happy to have the Olympic Games, but when we
see this, we can't wait for the Yankees to go home."

Chuck Daly:  "It's like traveling with 12 rock stars."



More Barkley - ON Angola team:

"They're in the Olympics.  They should be happy to be here...they're going to 
be the answer to a trivia question.

JD

    Another Barkley gem over the weekend was during a press conference
    where a reporter was asking Jordan a question and called Jordan a god.
    
    Later on in the same press conference, someone asked Barkley why he and
    the other athletes were staying at a $400/night hotel and not at the
    athletes village: "We've got God on our team and we're going to stay
    where God wants to stay."
    
    	--dan'l

God, I do love Charles Barkley.  His quotes are priceless, absolutely
priceless.....


'Saw

    Even my 8 year old commented yesterday how much fun its gonna be this
    season with Charles in charge.
    
    Mike

    I know that at least one person in Philadelphia will miss him.... me!
    
    Dennis
    

    from this weeks SI (naturally reprinted without permission)
    
    Karl Mecklenburg, Denver Bronco linebacker, after a recent tour of his
    ancestral home in Mechlenberg, Germany - "Everywher I looked I saw my
    name - AND it was spelled right!"
    
    I remain,
    yer plagaristic reporter!
    Kev
    

    
    "Why did the Red Sox trade him ?"
    
                 _My brother about Jeff Reardon just before Sprague
                  took him downtown.

    
    Re: .216
    
    Perfect..just perfect!
    
    Many ;`) 's
    
    Tim G.

    
    
    "What choice did he have ? You can play in your first World Series
    or you can come and get abused by Jerry Rice."
    
    _49ers tight end Brent Jones, when asked about the missing Neon Peon

    now theres confidence !!
    
    NOT !!

>Thank you Ninj, wherever you may be today...
>
>                 'Cadet 


I know one place he is:

	He's 1000% safer than any of us!


'Saw

    Sad But True, `Saw...
    
    .220  Thanks,  I needed that !!
    
    BG

    
     No Problem =Bob=...
    
     Now,  if you're trying to be like the Ninj I have a stats question
    over in the Broncos notes that you may be able to help me answer.
    
    ;~)  
    
    Big Game

Hummina, hummmina, hummina

8^)

    
    " It's not like we're going to die if something happens to Hugh
     Millen."
    
             _Dick MacPherson on the status of the Pats injured QB

    
     "If we are 12-0 on January 2nd and don't get it [the national
      championship], it would be a real tragedy."
    
                             _UDub coach Don James
    

    
     "Rod Humenuik is the worst coach I ever played for."
    
                          _John Hannah, the best player ever to wear a
                           Pats uniform on the Pats o-line coach