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Posting history for user MLTVAX::SCONCE

173 notes across 8 conferences

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Bill Sconce

Possible 15 Other Accounts for MLTVAX::SCONCE

Username	Total Posts	First Post	Last Post	Most Used Personal Name
11SRUS::SCONCE	30	`Mon Oct 14 1991`	`Thu Apr 09 1992`	Bill Sconce
16BITS::SCONCE	1	`Tue Apr 16 1991`	`Tue Apr 16 1991`	Bill Sconce
MLTVAX::MLTVAX::SCONCE	2	`Tue Nov 12 1991`	`Tue Nov 12 1991`	Bill Sconce
MLTVAX::SPINS::SCONCE	17	`Fri Nov 08 1991`	`Mon Nov 11 1991`	Bill Sconce
WHYVAX::SCONCE	38	`Tue Aug 27 1985`	`Tue Jul 12 1988`	Bill Sconce
16BITS::N8400M	1	`Thu Nov 10 1988`	`Thu Nov 10 1988`	Bill Sconce
19886::N1BFK	4	`Tue Sep 01 1987`	`Thu Oct 15 1987`	Bill
19901::N8400M	1	`Mon Aug 21 1989`	`Mon Aug 21 1989`	Bill Sconce
EVER11::N8400M	6	`Mon Jun 08 1987`	`Fri Nov 11 1988`	Bill Sconce
MLTVAX::MLTVAX::N8400M	35	`Fri Jul 06 1990`	`Fri May 24 1991`	Bill Sconce
MLTVAX::N1BFK	39	`Thu Mar 08 1990`	`Wed Dec 04 1991`	Bill Sconce
MLTVAX::N8400M	318	`Wed Aug 16 1989`	`Fri Aug 14 1992`	Bill Sconce
MLTVAX::SPINS::N8400M	16	`Wed Mar 13 1991`	`Wed May 15 1991`	Bill Sconce
WHYVAX::N1BFK	7	`Tue Jul 01 1986`	`Wed Oct 21 1987`	Bill Sconce
WHYVAX::N8400M	405	`Mon Jun 09 1986`	`Mon Apr 02 1990`	Bill Sconce

Summary of Posts

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Conference	Total Posts	Conference Title
7.286::dcu	142	DCU
7.286::digital	23	The Digital way of working
16thbt::bp2	2	BASIC-PLUS-2 Notes
16thbt::rt11	2	RT-11 Notes
atlant::x-10	1	X-10 Powerhouse Home Control System
turris::spelunking	1	SPELUNKING
vmszoo::kermit	1	KERMIT - The File Transfer Protocol
noted::serp	1	Special Early Retirement Program

Conference 7.286::digital (The Digital way of working)

23 posts

TOPIC	3.0	Open Door Policy
	3.54	`Fri Aug 07 1992 18:28`	See 1831.19. Another tale. (no-op)	3 lines
TOPIC	1352.0	Bi-Weekly Paychecks
	1352.288	`Thu Feb 14 1991 16:03`	re: What memo?	11 lines
	1352.289	`Thu Feb 14 1991 16:03`	"To All Employees"	299 lines
	1352.299	`Fri Feb 15 1991 13:26`	Terse Farrahar	27 lines
TOPIC	1562.0	The old Digital
	1562.91	`Tue Apr 21 1992 17:42`	Today's problems come from yesterday's "solutions" -Senge	107 lines
TOPIC	1612.0	outing at canobie
	1612.89	`Fri Aug 21 1992 22:26`	It could certainly have been handled better	35 lines
TOPIC	1639.0	DCU Meeting Nov 12th
	1639.173	`Wed Nov 13 1991 20:08`	This Item was for you	48 lines
	1639.201	`Thu Nov 14 1991 15:24`	GLOBE article	102 lines
TOPIC	1790.0	Statement from "REAL CHOICES" DCU BOD Candidates
	1790.3	`Tue Mar 10 1992 16:00`	The petition candidates will agree	11 lines
TOPIC	1831.0	`Tue Mar 31 1992 12:36`	DCU campaign, Digital, management & morale	300 lines
	1831.17	`Wed Apr 15 1992 16:35`	My answer to Ron's letter	56 lines
	1831.18	`Thu Apr 16 1992 23:34`	Response from Jack Smith's office	16 lines
	1831.19	`Fri Aug 07 1992 18:24`	(Non) Progress report	45 lines
	1831.23	`Mon Aug 10 1992 16:18`	Bureacracy is the problem	17 lines
	1831.26	`Tue Aug 11 1992 13:02`		6 lines
	1831.27	`Thu Aug 13 1992 12:41`	Update -- an answer after all	5 lines
TOPIC	1852.0	The Real Reorganization
	1852.35	`Mon Apr 20 1992 14:06`	Remember "No system manager required" ?	19 lines
TOPIC	1909.0	On Leaving Digital
	1909.23	`Wed May 27 1992 15:37`	Fare thee well	11 lines
TOPIC	1941.0	Simon Szeto passes on
	1941.87	`Wed Jun 17 1992 15:56`		2 lines
TOPIC	2019.0	Suits
	2019.13	`Fri Jul 24 1992 19:07`	It's a Quality catechism, too -- too bad	17 lines
TOPIC	2022.0	Are 1's really 1's?
	2022.96	`Fri Aug 07 1992 14:39`		8 lines
	2022.108	`Mon Aug 10 1992 18:20`	Right: it's the SYSTEM which counts	15 lines
TOPIC	2056.0	Future Layoff Plans
	2056.27	`Thu Aug 20 1992 16:13`	Natural tendencies	20 lines

Conference 16thbt::bp2 (BASIC-PLUS-2 Notes)

2 posts

TOPIC	129.0	Word processor using BP2??
	129.1	`Mon Jan 07 1991 19:23`	It'll be coding escape sequences	25 lines
TOPIC	135.0	BP2 vs. BASIC-11 ?
	135.1	`Thu Mar 05 1992 14:14`	A couple of references	19 lines

Conference 16thbt::rt11 ( RT-11 Notes )

2 posts

TOPIC	507.0	Install problem of Basic-Plus-V3.2-05
	507.1	`Wed May 02 1990 18:01`	LX bug, possibly	9 lines
TOPIC	589.0	BASIC-PLUS versus BASIC-11 ?
	589.4	`Fri Feb 14 1992 12:15`	Best: release notes -- want them?	22 lines

Conference atlant::x-10 (X-10 Powerhouse Home Control System)

1 posts

TOPIC	152.0	X10 Bus Traffic + collisions
	152.4	`Mon Aug 20 1990 20:33`	Intercoms -- OK here; see also 108.1	5 lines

Conference turris::spelunking (SPELUNKING)

1 posts

TOPIC 94.0 Wed Oct 03 1990 22:31 SPELEONICS -- caving and amateur radio 98 lines

Conference 7.286::dcu (DCU)

142 posts

TOPIC	220.0	New DCU Visa Statements
	220.53	`Mon Nov 25 1991 18:37`	USAA - (800) 531-8111	4 lines
TOPIC	248.0	Autonet
	248.14	`Thu Dec 12 1991 16:22`	Auto loans .ne. all loans	13 lines
TOPIC	253.0	STANDARD "FREE" CHECKING GOES AWAY SEPT 1!!!
	253.93	`Fri Aug 09 1991 18:48`	Trying to vote loudly	24 lines
	253.107	`Mon Aug 12 1991 14:22`	Update	7 lines
	253.187	`Thu Aug 29 1991 12:49`	Surveys -- not with monthly statements, either	15 lines
TOPIC	255.0	RESERVED: Open Letters to DCU RE: Checking FEES
	255.9	`Fri Aug 09 1991 18:33`	I vote "no"	15 lines
	255.39	`Mon Sep 16 1991 19:47`	Still voting	29 lines
TOPIC	258.0	1990 DCU Annual Report Questions
	258.11	`Thu Aug 15 1991 18:48`		11 lines
TOPIC	260.0	RESERVED: Registry
	260.20	`Wed Aug 14 1991 14:08`		7 lines
TOPIC	262.0	Returning DCU to it's rightful owners, YOU
	262.5	`Wed Aug 14 1991 14:17`	An offer	11 lines
	262.7	`Wed Aug 14 1991 17:55`	Right. On.	11 lines
TOPIC	271.0	Operational changes I'd like to see at DCU
	271.15	`Wed Aug 28 1991 18:26`	US Mail - not the problem	21 lines
TOPIC	272.0	DCU Statement of Condition Watch
	272.43	`Thu Feb 27 1992 13:38`	Credibility = Everything	28 lines
TOPIC	280.0	DCU Special Meeting Petition
	280.15	`Wed Sep 11 1991 16:45`	The agenda	18 lines
	280.32	`Thu Sep 19 1991 12:32`	still, small voice	37 lines
TOPIC	281.0	9/10/91 BoD Informal Meeting
	281.19	`Thu Sep 12 1991 11:54`	Is he representing us?	10 lines
TOPIC	282.0	Checking account fees are dead (for now)
	282.18	`Thu Sep 12 1991 12:11`	Offering a lightened-up restatement	2 lines
TOPIC	289.0	DCU Investigation Required
	289.14	`Thu Sep 26 1991 13:29`	Paul Revere time	35 lines
TOPIC	300.0	DCU's "Information Protection Policy"
	300.35	`Fri Nov 15 1991 14:26`	Campaign tip	8 lines
	300.40	`Fri Nov 15 1991 21:26`	Without basis	12 lines
TOPIC	333.0	Reasons to support the BoD
	333.60	`Wed Nov 06 1991 10:49`	How about a competent, unbiased recommendation to retain??	18 lines
	333.73	`Wed Nov 06 1991 16:58`	Dissenters' rights (notes_collision with .72)	13 lines
TOPIC	339.0	Mr. Cockburn's informal meetings?
	339.27	`Thu Nov 07 1991 11:46`	ZKO meeting evidently on Friday 11/8, not 11/7	16 lines
TOPIC	340.0	DCU Livewire
	340.48	`Wed Nov 06 1991 10:33`	A "VOTE of SUPPORT"??? Really? What's going on here?	20 lines
	340.58	`Thu Nov 07 1991 12:34`	That last paragraph of Ilene Jacobs's	34 lines
	340.67	`Fri Nov 15 1991 19:40`		4 lines
TOPIC	350.0	Open letter to DCU members
	350.3	`Thu Nov 07 1991 11:06`	Another letter which belongs here	19 lines
	350.5	`Thu Nov 07 1991 15:58`		3 lines
	350.11	`Thu Nov 07 1991 19:39`	What he actually said	14 lines
TOPIC	359.0	Proposed Motion(s)
	359.8	`Mon Nov 18 1991 17:51`	One can get by with these things ONCE	44 lines
	359.9	`Mon Nov 18 1991 17:53`	Can YOU spot the changes?	33 lines
TOPIC	363.0	The BOD nomination and election process
	363.25	`Thu Nov 14 1991 16:09`	I'll gather signatures for everyone	9 lines
	363.31	`Fri Nov 15 1991 10:53`	Right you are. Petition collecting .NE. campaigning	11 lines
	363.33	`Fri Nov 15 1991 12:54`	Only if the Nominating Committee fails to nominate them	0 lines
	363.35	`Fri Nov 15 1991 14:28`	Yes. Please. BoD _may_ apply	28 lines
	363.42	`Fri Nov 15 1991 21:29`	We musn't give birth to Nominating Committee II	7 lines
	363.52	`Mon Nov 18 1991 16:39`	But WHO are you willing to have do the probing?	16 lines
	363.55	`Tue Nov 19 1991 16:42`	Clarification	26 lines
TOPIC	364.0	Special Meeting Reports
	364.40	`Wed Nov 13 1991 11:25`	Stay tuned for Mr. Rice	11 lines
	364.61	`Fri Nov 15 1991 12:33`	The GLOBE did better	44 lines
TOPIC	366.0	Opinions of the 11/12/91 Special Meeting
	366.18	`Thu Nov 14 1991 09:57`	Mary Madden was "unavailable"	6 lines
	366.24	`Thu Nov 14 1991 15:56`	Count = 1,309	4 lines
	366.32	`Fri Nov 15 1991 10:29`		15 lines
TOPIC	367.0	If another special meeting: I don't want to pay for it!
	367.11	`Thu Nov 14 1991 10:09`	To fix the Bylaws, fix the Board	28 lines
TOPIC	368.0	Only through courts?
	368.10	`Thu Nov 14 1991 10:31`		19 lines
	368.13	`Thu Nov 14 1991 14:37`		7 lines
TOPIC	370.0	DCU employee - friend or foe?
	370.6	`Thu Nov 14 1991 10:41`		15 lines
	370.21	`Fri Nov 15 1991 12:50`	Let's do something	20 lines
	370.26	`Fri Nov 15 1991 14:21`		9 lines
	370.28	`Fri Nov 15 1991 14:31`	Note collision	2 lines
TOPIC	371.0	Middlesex News report
	371.18	`Thu Nov 21 1991 16:25`		4 lines
	371.19	`Thu Nov 21 1991 16:34`	An attempt to smooth the waters	15 lines
TOPIC	372.0	Worksheet for next petition (if needed)
	372.2	`Thu Nov 14 1991 12:06`	"Called" -- not their interpretation this time	23 lines
	372.5	`Thu Nov 14 1991 14:41`	Even to a reporter, "call" means "hold"	5 lines
	372.6	`Thu Nov 14 1991 16:15`	Mary Madden: dates probably available 11/21	4 lines
TOPIC	373.0	`Thu Nov 14 1991 15:26`	Newspaper articles about 11/12 meeting	102 lines
	373.5	`Fri Nov 15 1991 13:00`		6 lines
TOPIC	376.0	BoD Candidate Tour '91
	376.3	`Fri Nov 15 1991 11:01`	Yes! Debates!	20 lines
TOPIC	378.0	Open letter to BoD Candidates
	378.1	`Fri Nov 15 1991 19:44`	RATHOLE!	4 lines
TOPIC	387.0	Official DCU Press Release
	387.6	`Fri Nov 15 1991 20:28`	Comments -- lies, bother, servicing	37 lines
	387.7	`Fri Nov 15 1991 21:15`	No need to wait for largesse from PKO5	43 lines
TOPIC	388.0	Closing Accounts Gets Easier!
	388.1	`Fri Nov 15 1991 23:31`	You'll WANT to be a member at least for a little while	11 lines
TOPIC	389.0	Services that other CUs offer.
	389.7	`Wed Nov 20 1991 10:30`		3 lines
TOPIC	390.0	What do you look for in a BoD candidate?
	390.14	`Mon Nov 18 1991 16:53`	Qualifications? PREREQUISITES?	12 lines
	390.15	`Tue Nov 19 1991 08:59`	BoD responsibilities, from candidate's kit	76 lines
	390.17	`Tue Nov 19 1991 09:13`	Did you notice: surety bonds?	10 lines
	390.18	`Tue Nov 19 1991 09:19`	Yes. Part of the kit.	18 lines
	390.19	`Tue Nov 19 1991 09:33`	The rest of Mary Madden's letter to candidates	41 lines
TOPIC	391.0	NCUA - no BoD probably OK
	391.10	`Wed Nov 20 1991 11:08`	Downturn = cancer cure?	40 lines
TOPIC	392.0	1992 Annual Meeting
	392.15	`Fri Apr 24 1992 15:36`	A new era dawns	63 lines
TOPIC	395.0	`Thu Nov 21 1991 04:23`	Special Election effort -- launch time	35 lines
	395.1	`Thu Nov 21 1991 04:55`	Sign in, please	68 lines
	395.2	`Thu Nov 21 1991 05:07`	Some thoughts on goals	29 lines
	395.5	`Thu Nov 21 1991 22:06`	Off and rolling	89 lines
TOPIC	396.0	`Thu Nov 21 1991 05:25`	Special-Election Candidates -- offer of support	47 lines
	396.1	`Thu Nov 21 1991 05:28`	Some thoughts on goals	25 lines
TOPIC	398.0	" Don't Like it Leave it"
	398.29	`Wed Dec 18 1991 17:06`	Worth the $5	9 lines
TOPIC	399.0	`Fri Nov 22 1991 12:14`	Special Election -- Report from Mary Madden	57 lines
TOPIC	402.0	October Statement of Conditions
	402.5	`Tue Nov 26 1991 15:40`	"amalgam of credit unions"?; who's in charge?	16 lines
TOPIC	407.0	`Tue Dec 10 1991 13:25`	_The March of Folly_	13 lines
	407.6	`Mon Mar 23 1992 15:33`	A Vice President speaks :)	6 lines
	407.9	`Tue Mar 24 1992 12:51`	Publisher is checking the tape	14 lines
TOPIC	408.0	DCU NOTICE:Special Mtng/Amended call fr candidates
	408.18	`Tue Dec 17 1991 11:01`	BoD could quickly change this conference	15 lines
	408.19	`Tue Dec 17 1991 11:02`		1 lines
	408.20	`Tue Dec 17 1991 11:04`		2 lines
TOPIC	409.0	Let's re-write the Bylaws
	409.5	`Wed Dec 18 1991 16:55`	Go for it	16 lines
TOPIC	413.0	DCU POSTING: NOMINATING COMMITTEE OVERVIEW
	413.80	`Wed Jan 29 1992 15:52`	I wish he hadn't done it	16 lines
TOPIC	429.0	Petition Process information
	429.16	`Mon Jan 27 1992 19:59`	Researching some ambiguities on the petition process	35 lines
	429.17	`Mon Jan 27 1992 20:03`	DCU is served by inter-office mail, too	10 lines
TOPIC	434.0	Message from DCU Nominating Committe
	434.16	`Fri Jan 31 1992 16:52`	Right. And then the next step...	19 lines
TOPIC	435.0	Kinzelman - Candidacy statement
	435.8	`Mon Mar 02 1992 14:55`	Dunno that a visionary can't be a critic too	9 lines
TOPIC	443.0	Phil Gransewicz - Candidate for the DCU Board
	443.3	`Mon Mar 02 1992 15:05`	How 'bout the same thing for national politics!	12 lines
	443.7	`Mon Mar 02 1992 15:42`	Dr. Goebbels, DCU needs you	15 lines
TOPIC	458.0	Rich Luciano - BOD candidate
	458.2	`Fri Feb 07 1992 20:35`		7 lines
TOPIC	459.0	A thought on voting against the BOD candidates
	459.15	`Mon Feb 10 1992 16:20`		16 lines
TOPIC	461.0	DCU recording while on hold
	461.15	`Wed Mar 11 1992 12:55`		13 lines
TOPIC	471.0	`Wed Feb 19 1992 20:48`	Answers from DCU about petition handling and ballots	95 lines
	471.5	`Wed Feb 26 1992 12:54`	"Petition" = "unnominated" in DCU's eyes	20 lines
TOPIC	484.0	Meeting Index
	484.35	`Wed Mar 11 1992 12:20`	Good investment: reaching out beyond GMA	2 lines
	484.36	`Wed Mar 11 1992 12:23`		3 lines
TOPIC	488.0	Rumor of the week....
	488.8	`Wed Mar 11 1992 12:13`	Yeah, that's the ticket	12 lines
TOPIC	489.0	No 150 word limit here...
	489.3	`Wed Mar 11 1992 12:28`		4 lines
	489.31	`Tue Mar 17 1992 16:10`	Going easy on personal finances -- some rambling	24 lines
TOPIC	493.0	DCU employees and the election
	493.68	`Thu Mar 19 1992 14:21`	A plea: we WANT staff to hear the shareholders	21 lines
	493.72	`Thu Mar 19 1992 15:44`	Right. ANYONE who communicates will be welcome	15 lines
	493.76	`Tue Mar 24 1992 13:22`	The clock is ticking	40 lines
	493.104	`Thu Mar 26 1992 17:42`	One would expect he'll do what his boss says	13 lines
TOPIC	496.0	The "Vote For a Qualified Board" flier
	496.55	`Tue Mar 17 1992 11:27`	Patti really said that? Here's the "official guideline"	44 lines
TOPIC	498.0	`Mon Mar 16 1992 15:04`	John Sims letter, DEC stationery, postmarked 3/14	37 lines
	498.6	`Mon Mar 16 1992 16:07`	US mail. And mine was first class	22 lines
	498.7	`Mon Mar 16 1992 16:21`	But "most importantly, to (4) vote" IS right	21 lines
TOPIC	499.0	1986 Report
	499.9	`Tue Mar 17 1992 17:18`		5 lines
TOPIC	502.0	Election Ballot
	502.30	`Thu Mar 19 1992 13:29`	Impartiality -- separation of function (conjecture_)	30 lines
	502.31	`Thu Mar 19 1992 13:36`	"Trust. Trust with verification."	10 lines
	502.39	`Thu Mar 19 1992 15:24`	Caesar's wife (avoiding APPEARANCE of impropriety)	28 lines
	502.47	`Thu Mar 19 1992 19:31`	It's that "trust us" will be insufficient	21 lines
	502.50	`Fri Mar 20 1992 13:13`	None of us, including Digital, can afford this	26 lines
	502.61	`Thu Mar 26 1992 11:58`	Caesar's wife?	33 lines
	502.71	`Fri Mar 27 1992 10:59`	Count me in	8 lines
	502.82	`Fri Mar 27 1992 17:24`	The secrecy is not conjecture	5 lines
TOPIC	503.0	Might DEC be a depositor (member) in DCU?
	503.10	`Thu Mar 19 1992 19:17`	DEC is a member, per DCU charter	25 lines
TOPIC	512.0	Boston Business Journal on the DCU election
	512.8	`Fri Mar 27 1992 10:52`	Maybe they'll be communicative after election?	9 lines
TOPIC	514.0	Build bridges, not walls
	514.1	`Fri Mar 27 1992 17:39`	It's the Corporation which has been damaged	14 lines
TOPIC	516.0	DCU campaign, Digital, management & morale
	516.9	`Wed Apr 15 1992 18:03`	Oh NOOOOOoooooo...	20 lines
	516.10	`Wed Apr 15 1992 18:08`	Open letter to Jack Smith, from DIGITAL 1831.5	140 lines
	516.12	`Wed Apr 15 1992 18:10`	DIGITAL 1831.6	11 lines
	516.13	`Wed Apr 15 1992 18:10`	Additional thoughts, from DIGITAL 1831.8	92 lines
	516.14	`Wed Apr 15 1992 18:11`	Ron Glover's reply, from DIGITAL 1831.9	79 lines
	516.15	`Wed Apr 15 1992 18:11`	DIGITAL 1831.10	14 lines
	516.16	`Wed Apr 15 1992 18:12`	Noting that I did respond to Ron Glover, from DIGITAL 1831.17	63 lines
	516.17	`Wed Apr 15 1992 18:16`	My response to Ron Glover also contained this	14 lines
TOPIC	522.0	What happens if the votes are tied?
	522.8	`Fri Apr 10 1992 18:24`	Earth calling Ruck 'n' Roll ?	14 lines
TOPIC	524.0	`Thu Apr 16 1992 15:17`	BoD compensated? No. ...er, we mean Yes	15 lines
	524.8	`Thu Apr 16 1992 20:51`	No suggestion of wrongdoing. "Ironic".	37 lines
TOPIC	535.0	`Fri Apr 24 1992 18:54`	BoD and communications; question list	98 lines
	535.1	`Fri Apr 24 1992 18:54`	Some tough questions for starters	21 lines
TOPIC	539.0	REAL SUGGESTIONS TO BOD
	539.17	`Thu Apr 30 1992 12:27`		18 lines
TOPIC	540.0	Replacement fee for lost ATM card; badge number
	540.14	`Wed Apr 29 1992 14:22`	Cost? Yes. Customer satisfaction, the best investment	22 lines
TOPIC	541.0	Petty Cash and EFT
	541.1	`Wed Apr 29 1992 17:20`	Right. "Net pay". Be careful	94 lines
TOPIC	547.0	Government check rejected again!
	547.15	`Tue May 05 1992 18:21`		10 lines
TOPIC	549.0	BOD Chores
	549.18	`Thu May 07 1992 16:35`	And dismantle the IPP, while they're at it	20 lines
TOPIC	582.0	DCU_INFO: BoD Off-site Trip costs
	582.40	`Wed Jul 15 1992 13:17`	Roger on that (.39) -- a member's opinion	8 lines

Conference vmszoo::kermit (KERMIT - The File Transfer Protocol)

1 posts

TOPIC	789.0	KERMIT ON VAXSTATION
	789.2	`Mon Apr 16 1990 18:15`	Defective Product Management	95 lines

Conference noted::serp (Special Early Retirement Program)

1 posts

TOPIC	154.0	who is NOT taking SERP?
	154.12	`Thu May 07 1992 16:42`	Reconsideration: 7 days, elapsed time	8 lines

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First Post:	`Mon Apr 16 1990`
Last Post:	`Fri Aug 21 1992`
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# Replies:	162
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